In St. Petersburg, launched RSCH "Rasul Gamzatov" project 22460

In St. Petersburg, launched RSCH "Rasul Gamzatov" project 22460

Border patrol ship "Rasul Gamzatov" project 22460


In St. Petersburg, the Rasul Gamzatov border patrol ship of project 22460 was launched. The ceremony was held on December 21 at PAO Shipbuilding Company Almaz.

PSKR "Rasul Gamzatov" is the eleventh ship of project 22460, built at the SF "Almaz" in St. Petersburg. In total, the Coast Guard of the border troops of the FSB of the Russian Federation, together with the PSKR data, will have 14 patrol ships of this project, 13 of which have already been commissioned and one (Rasul Gamzatov) is being completed. Three PSKRs were built in Vladivostok at OAO Vostochnaya Verf.

According to unofficial information, the Border Service of the FSB of Russia is not very satisfied with the characteristics of project 22460, so the ship built on Almaz will be the last in the series. Instead of the ships of project 22460, in 2016 the construction of the border patrol ships of project 10410 (code "Svetlyak") in a modernized appearance was resumed.

Ships of project 22460 are designed to protect the maritime border, territorial waters and the continental shelf, as well as for rescue operations, environmental monitoring and the elimination of the consequences of natural disasters. The armament of the ship is one 30-mm automatic six-barreled artillery mount AK-630 and two 12,7 mm machine guns. There is a platform for placing a helicopter. It is technically possible to deploy launchers of anti-ship missiles Uranus and an A-220M gun mount.

Ship displacement - 670 tons, length - 62.5 m, width - 11 m, draft - 3.3 meters, cruising speed (max) - 24,8 knots, cruising range - 3500 miles at 8 knots, autonomy - 30 days, crew - 20 people .

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  1. x.andvlad 24 December 2019 11: 13 New
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    So the news is good. And the ship is beautiful.
    stroke speed (max) - 24,8 knots
    It is not clear why our ships have such a low speed to guard the border? This is normal?
    1. smart ass 24 December 2019 11: 18 New
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      For the name of the plus ship, well done
      1. Vol4ara 24 December 2019 11: 22 New
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        Quote: Clever man
        For the name of the plus ship, well done

        In general, it’s strange, in the name of the poet ... not in tradition, we have married the ships of the Pushkins and Lermontovs
        1. Alexey RA 24 December 2019 11: 55 New
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          Quote: Vol4ara
          In general, it’s strange, in the name of the poet ... not in tradition, we have married the ships of the Pushkins and Lermontovs

          But we have a border patrol ship, Herluf Bidstrup. smile
          1. smart ass 24 December 2019 15: 29 New
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            I represent the faces of violators
            1. Alexey RA 24 December 2019 16: 55 New
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              Quote: Clever man
              I represent the faces of violators

              And I imagine the joy of team members from serving on a ship of that name. smile
              By the way, you can check the degree of sobriety by the question "what ship are you serving? "
              Private so-and-so! Rename the personal bombing vehicle of his Imperial Highness! And he used to name ...
              © ABB. OO.
      2. rich 24 December 2019 12: 10 New
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        It turns out - we now have two operating border ships "Rasul Gamzatov" - the new PSKR "Rasul Gamzatov" project 22460 and the Caspian PSKR-905 "Rasul Gamzatov", project 10410 (military unit 2375). It’s strange.
    2. knn54 24 December 2019 11: 27 New
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      Judging (also) in terms of armament and comfort, a ship can "roll" tourists along SevMorPuti
      1. bessmertniy 24 December 2019 11: 36 New
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        Expensive can be such a pleasure for tourists. And these ships were not built for them. repeat The main lines of protection and drive the vile poachers who steal our fish.
        1. knn54 24 December 2019 11: 54 New
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          Victor, even for some visitors to VO (judging by the comments) and 7 million cu are not money.
          Speed ​​is enough except for North Korean poachers. But really, at least around 50 knots, for example. to drive poachers from Japan.
          1. Dart2027 24 December 2019 19: 36 New
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            Quote: knn54
            at least around 50 knots, for example

            Do fishermen have such a speed?
    3. donavi49 24 December 2019 11: 35 New
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      Well, there is an emphasis on the machine. It would be more than a stoke.

      The customer wanted a home-based helicopter, from which they danced. Well, habitability like the Europeans.

      As a result, Kamov threw the customer onto a helicopter, powdering his brains for almost 10 years. And the site is not needed. It turned out.
      1. Marconi41 24 December 2019 12: 27 New
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        Quote: donavi49
        As a result, Kamov threw the customer onto a helicopter, powdering his brains for almost 10 years. And the site is not needed. It turned out.

        Absolutely right! The FSB pays regularly for a helicopter, but there is still no helicopter plus insufficient speed.
    4. bk316 24 December 2019 12: 22 New
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      It is not clear why our ships have such a low speed to guard the border?

      Because it’s short, it’s not planing laughing
    5. Flooding 24 December 2019 12: 55 New
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      Quote: x.andvlad
      stroke speed (max) - 24,8 knots
      It is not clear why our ships have such a low speed to guard the border?

      It is not clear where this figure came from. All sources featured 30 nodes.
      Perhaps 30 was calculated, and 25 real adjusted for Chinese engines?
      1. ver_ 24 December 2019 13: 51 New
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        ... however, torpedo bombers in the Second World War had more speed ...
        1. Flooding 24 December 2019 14: 43 New
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          Quote: ver_
          ... however, torpedo bombers in the Second World War had more speed ...

          Why compare them? Different tasks, different requirements.
          1. ver_ 4 January 2020 13: 39 New
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            ... just the same time ...
    6. Krasnoyarsk 24 December 2019 18: 20 New
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      Quote: x.andvlad

      It is not clear why our ships have such a low speed to guard the border? This is normal?

      This issue, like the armament of the ship, was discussed on the pages of VO.
      I categorically did not like these ships for both speed and armament. And I am very glad that it was decided (?) To return to the previous PSKR project - 10410. Since there is no other.
  2. Kerensky 24 December 2019 11: 16 New
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    It is gratifying to hear!
    But here:
    According to unofficial information, the Border Service of the FSB of Russia is not very satisfied with the characteristics of project 22460

    alarming. Can someone explain what is wrong with the board?
    1. donavi49 24 December 2019 11: 47 New
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      In terms of power, it was originally a bun, albeit a little weak. After import substitution through the gasket in China, it turned out to be so-so (including several crutch units, where the gasket was simply ordered the wrong configuration and had to be completed with sets).

      For the price of expensive, more expensive than Svetlyak almost a lard. So serial Rubies - 2,4-2,5 billion, and the new bookmark Fireflies (after a long break in a decade) - 1,8 billion.

      Does not meet the basic ideology of use. Well, that is, this is how to conduct serial construction of frigates 22350 - but instead of 2 UKSK-8, put stubs. Helicopters Ka-226T based should have appeared in 10-11. As a result, the first two Kamov was able to pass in 2018. And still finishes it. Even with the fulfillment of that contract, it will be 4 helicopters for 12 Rubies. And with the construction of new ones for this customer, there were potential problems named Turbomekh sad .
      1. Kerensky 24 December 2019 12: 01 New
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        Even with the fulfillment of that contract, it will be 4 helicopters for 12 Rubies.

        Well, while the UAV is dispensed with (maintaining the site), we have a lot of suitable “birds”.
        Does the board have anything to do with it? More expensive? I agree. But autonomy and habitability at the level, which means the crew is less tired.
        due to the shortened raised pipes, the inside is very noisy.

        It is possible, but is it easy enough to treat?
        1. donavi49 24 December 2019 12: 22 New
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          Well, with the UAV S-100 is also not very. And a full-fledged platform for him is not needed. Moreover, the same Firefly can be modified under the S-100. Look at the BK-18 (enlarged Raptor) are going to hang a helicopter UAV.

          The entire project was built taking into account the fact that the emphasis on a multi-purpose light helicopter based, will pay for the price, loss in driving performance, etc.
    2. Alexey RA 24 December 2019 11: 49 New
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      Quote: Kerensky
      Can someone explain what is wrong with the board?

      With the board, everything is so. Just 22460 was sharpened for work with the Ka-226 helicopter and the Horizon UAV - and the main problems are with them. Therefore, they returned to the "helicopterless" "Firefly".
    3. Peter Vasilievich 24 December 2019 12: 11 New
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      Yes, everything is wrong with him: the draft is small - the sail is huge, there are no engines again, seaworthiness is so-so, it’s healthy to pump it, the launching system of the boat has not been thought out, and there’s a “wagon and a little cart” on the little things. As a boat for the protection of the water area, he is completely blind and deaf.
      1. Marconi41 24 December 2019 12: 37 New
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        Quote: Pyotr Vasilievich
        As a boat for the protection of the water area, he is completely blind and deaf.

        This is not an OVR ship. This is a border guard, and they are not involved in the military of other countries.
        1. Peter Vasilievich 25 December 2019 13: 59 New
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          This is a border guard, and they are not involved in the military of other countries.
          According to any plans for any preparatory (read - mobilization) measures, the border ships at a certain moment reassign themselves to the fleet and perform the tasks that the fleet will assign to them - and this is not only our notion, it is normal practice to guard and protect our coast and coastal waters of all our sworn "friends".
          And in the form in which these boats now carry the border service, they are a little less suitable for performing naval tasks than not at all.
          1. Marconi41 25 December 2019 14: 03 New
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            Quote: Pyotr Vasilievich
            frontier ships at a certain moment are subordinated to the fleet and perform the tasks that the fleet will assign to them

            Not anymore. Now, at a “certain point”, border guards guard only their base and do not carry out naval tasks. Therefore, their weapons are not the same as in Soviet times.
            1. Peter Vasilievich 25 December 2019 16: 47 New
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              border guards only guard their home base
              they are not able to do this
              Therefore, their weapons are not the same as in Soviet times.

              although in Soviet times, they were not required to protect the security forces. Their task was mostly signal.
              And from the position of the state, to build separate highly specialized ships, even border, at least customs, is the height of waste.
              1. Marconi41 25 December 2019 18: 01 New
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                Quote: Pyotr Vasilievich
                border guards only guard their home base
                they are not able to do this
                Therefore, their weapons are not the same as in Soviet times.

                Their basing points almost always coincide with the naval ones, so they will cover the air above them, and they will probably cope with the rest. The attached units also are not canceled.
      2. Alexey RA 24 December 2019 17: 00 New
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        Quote: Pyotr Vasilievich
        As a boat for the protection of the water area, he is completely blind and deaf.

        And why do we always evaluate border guards by naval tasks, and try to impose the tasks of border guards on naval ships? wink
        1. Peter Vasilievich 25 December 2019 16: 52 New
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          Because the protection and defense of borders is a collective matter.
    4. bk316 24 December 2019 12: 29 New
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      Can someone explain what is wrong with the board?

      Expensive in and of itself in operation. Firefly is cheaper and easier, and even faster. Yes, and autonomy month is not particularly needed.
  3. Igor Borisov_2 24 December 2019 11: 25 New
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    Quote: Kerensky
    It is gratifying to hear!
    But here:
    According to unofficial information, the Border Service of the FSB of Russia is not very satisfied with the characteristics of project 22460

    alarming. Can someone explain what is wrong with the board?

    According to one acquaintance - because of the shortened false pipes inside it is very noisy. Yes, and the speed of the “Firefly” is more than -30 knots ...
  4. Chaldon48 24 December 2019 11: 30 New
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    This is more of a big boat than a ship.
    1. bk316 24 December 2019 12: 25 New
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      Fuck yourself a boat for 30 days of autonomy, I would like a boat with such autonomy.
      The pride of the Khokhlyatsky Navy is 20 (TWENTY CARL) times less.
      1. Peter Vasilievich 25 December 2019 16: 55 New
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        Their flagship was the Sagaidachny (pr. 1135), more than 120 m long.
        1. bk316 25 December 2019 16: 57 New
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          Their flagship was the Sagaidachny (pr. 1135), more than 120 m long.

          It was. And they are building gyurses ...
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  6. Star Destroyer 24 December 2019 11: 56 New
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    In the story of the breakthrough through the “Crimean bridge”, these ships showed their best side.
    But I think that it would be worth taking into account the experience and specifics of the application and modernize them with a battering ram.
    1. Peter Vasilievich 24 December 2019 12: 14 New
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      There, any available iron would do. What was so outstanding in this project that allowed us to solve the problem?
    2. Alexey RA 24 December 2019 17: 04 New
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      Quote: Star Destroyer
      In the story of the breakthrough through the “Crimean bridge”, these ships showed their best side.

      Not at all - it was 22460 in those events that received damage to the superstructure.

      But the "oak" 745P escaped with peeled off paint. However, what else to expect from a ship on the basis of a marine rescue tug to work in seas with severe ice conditions. smile
      1. Marconi41 25 December 2019 14: 13 New
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        Quote: Alexey RA
        But the "oak" 745P escaped with peeled off paint.

        He even has a steel superstructure. What will happen to him ?!
  7. businessv 24 December 2019 11: 57 New
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    The new ship is pleased, not only the assessment of the ship that the customer gave him is not happy. What, they were waiting until 14 pieces from the slipway came down to understand that it is more expensive and slower than the “Firefly” ?! Thanks to all the colleagues who explain the reasons for such an assessment, at least you begin to understand what’s the matter! drinks
  8. thinker 24 December 2019 12: 06 New
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    Caspian PSKR-905 "Rasul Gamzatov", it turns out that he left for decommissioning, and a new one for replacement. request
  9. Marconi41 24 December 2019 12: 38 New
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    Quote: businessv
    What are they, waiting until 14 pieces from the stocks come down to understand

    They were waiting for a helicopter, which is no longer and will not be.
    1. Flooding 24 December 2019 13: 07 New
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      Quote: Marconi41
      They were waiting for a helicopter, which is no longer and will not be.

      On November 18, there was an optimistic outlook for the Ka-226.
      What has changed in a month?
      Quote: https://ria.ru/20191118/1561053900.html
      The contract for the production of Ka-226 helicopters in India is planned to be signed in early 2020, Alexander Mikheev, Director General of Rosboronexport, told reporters at an exhibition in Dubai on Monday.
      This contract involves the production of 200 Ka-226 helicopters at Indian facilities.
      1. donavi49 24 December 2019 13: 47 New
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        A contract for 4 cars has been fulfilled (or not yet, there after assuring that two more cars will be transmitted in 2019 there was no information).

        The problem of Ka-226T in version 226.57 for a particular customer of the FSB FS. Bukovka T is a Turbomech (now Safran) Arrius 2G1 engine. This concern is ready to supply engines at least in thousands. For private and Indian customers. Even in Iran it is quite constructive - for the EU so far has refrained from sanctions.

        However, they do not want to supply engines for the FS FSB end customer. Moreover, the corporation (BP) also does not want to. Because of the piece order, the whole program and all foreign tenders may be wrapped. If you click on Safran for violation of sanctions.
      2. Marconi41 24 December 2019 13: 49 New
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        Quote: Flood
        What has changed in a month?

        That's it, that nothing has changed. The engine is French.
        1. Flooding 24 December 2019 14: 42 New
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          Quote: Marconi41
          That's it, that nothing has changed. The engine is French.

          In September there was information that Klimov took up the engine under the Ka-226.
          1. Marconi41 24 December 2019 21: 28 New
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            Quote: Flood
            Quote: Marconi41
            That's it, that nothing has changed. The engine is French.

            In September there was information that Klimov took up the engine under the Ka-226.

            That's when they bring it to mind, then maybe they will return to this project, even if it’s unlikely. Maybe they’ll finally put on existing helicopters.