The president opened the railway traffic on the Crimean bridge

Russian President Vladimir Putin has opened railway traffic on the Crimean bridge. Recall that earlier, Putin took part in the opening of the automobile part of the bridge connecting the Kuban with the Crimean peninsula.

By tradition, the president decided to go over the bridge not as a passenger, but as a transport manager - this time as an assistant locomotive driver.

The train went from Taman station to Kerch. After that, the president went into a carriage in which a group of workers were involved in the construction of the railway part of the Crimean bridge.

Also, in the mode of a television bridge, the Russian president took part in the ceremony of departure of the train from the Moscow railway station of St. Petersburg to Sevastopol. The train that leaves today will arrive at its destination around 9:25 on December 25th. The total travel time will be 43 hours 25 minutes. There are more than 600 passengers in the cars of the first train departing for Crimea with a route through the Crimean bridge.

Attention was drawn to the fact that in the cab of the locomotive there was no head of Russian Railways.

It is noted that at first only passenger trains will cross the bridge, and then freight traffic by rail will begin.

According to the Russian president, in 2020, approximately 13 million tons of cargo will be transported across the bridge and at least 14 million people will pass.

Recall that two years ago in Ukraine they stated that it was "impossible" to build a bridge across the Kerch Strait.

Comments

[Kamikaze19]

Well done. Congratulations!

[Svarog]

The good news is that the Crimean bridge is fully operational. But the president already opened the bridge, then drove to Kamaz, now the railway connection has opened .. he has nothing to do, how to open the same thing several times? I have never heard that leaders of major world powers have bridges, roads open .. cheap PR.

[Thrall]

Attention was drawn to the fact that in the cab of the locomotive there was no head of Russian Railways

And as whom? Kochegara? If Putin was an assistant driver
Belozerov was present in the government delegation.

[Terenin]

Quote: Thrall

And as whom? Kochegara?

By the way
- Santa Claus to every house! - said the fireman, stopping the boiler room ...

[kpd]

But there are actually two bridges, they are simply built parallel to each other.

[Andrey Mikhaylov]

You have a leader. Your state opened the toilet at school. But don’t worry about the bridge, it’s not there. It’s a Mosfilm shoot.

[Mihail80]

Well done Andrei, I noticed it!

[FenH]

Quote: Svarog

The good news is that the Crimean bridge is fully operational. But the president already opened the bridge, then drove to Kamaz, now the railway connection has opened .. he has nothing to do, how to open the same thing several times? I have never heard that leaders of major world powers have bridges, roads open .. cheap PR.

This is for you, for example, https://tass.ru/ekonomika/5706477

[Brturin]

Quote: Svarog

cheap PR.

looking to compare ... the opening of the Saint-Gotthard Tunnel - attended by Swiss President Johann Schneider-Ammann, French President Francois Hollande, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi and European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker ...

[Svarog]

Quote: BrTurin

opening of the Saint Gotthard Tunnel

Well, several times they open one object .. Cheap PR just because the president has to PR several times on the same achievement .. but he does it because PR isn’t where, because there are no achievements. So you have to suck from what is at the maximum

[Mestny]

The main thing here is to repeat this more often. As soon as I woke up in the morning, so immediately "no achievements are achieved", "put down and put down."

[Xnumx vis]

Zyuganov is already groaning ..! - “Impeachment to Putin!” And some of his comrades-in-arms in the alleged “party commander” are whining ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Svarog

Cheap PR just because

that someone is constantly breaking into branches and posting a pure heresy with or without, yeah. It is, of course, menopause, the thing is ...

[SSR]

Quote: Svarog

PR is not particularly where, as there are no achievements.

The article is not ours but the French, a link to the original. Below are excerpts from the newspaper.
https://www.agoravox.fr/tribune-libre/article/la-russie-vue-autrement-220112
In Russia, the manufacturing sector is growing faster than the mining sector. In 2018, 215 new enterprises were created in Russia with investments of over 500 million rubles each. The existing factories, in turn, have significantly expanded their production capabilities:

- Mechanical engineering and metalworking - 71 new plants.


- Chemical industry - 30 new factories.


- Building materials - 38 new factories.


- Electronics and electrical engineering - 22 new factories.


- Medicine and pharmaceuticals - 16 new factories.


- Textiles - 13 new factories.


- Others - 25 new factories.

[Runoway]

In Russia, the manufacturing sector is growing faster than mining

Before our eyes, just as the plants turn into shopping centers or are demolished under new buildings, maybe somewhere further than the central region

[georggy]

This is from the series: dream of an old horse?
Enough of fairy tales.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Svarog

Well, not several times, they open one object ..

The namesake, surprised by your ignorance. Two bridges. And there were three more, technological. But they have already been dismantled. There were two going in parallel, between them a distance of 50 meters. Therefore, these are two different objects. Although I agree with you, it’s somehow not to open the movement for the president, whatever it may be, to the president. Well, the prime minister has gone nowhere. And better - the Minister of Transport, this is his economy.
But somehow I think that this is not his initiative, he just could not refuse

[Edik]

Quote: Svarog

Cheap PR precisely because several times the president has to PR for the same achievement ..

This is not PR, but US trolling! He put them on them with parting

Quote: Svarog

and he does so, because there’s not much to do PR, since there are no achievements. So you have to suck from what is at the maximum

Enough of the fact that he saved Russia from decay!

[Piramidon]

Quote: Svarog

Well, not several times, they open one object ..

Eyes overgrown with fat, Svidomenko? Wash with a vial. This is essentially TWO BRIDGES. What can you explain to stubborn skakuasas, anyway, after all, through a saucepan it won’t reach.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Svarog

Cheap PR precisely because several times the president has to PR on the same achievement .. but he does it because PR isn’t where, since there are no achievements. So you have to suck from what is at the maximum

We have a holiday, and you have mourning in "Sumeria". It didn’t work to attribute everything to Mosfilm, but how did you try, pot-headed skakuas. Here you are now expelling yourself from all the holes and tearing your hairline in all accessible places. Calm down, roll with gorilka and accept the bridge not as a props, but like that king, come and feel

[Shaman]

It’s not your mind that he opens you to voice your achievements, although all yours is that in the toilet after you there remains Chao Pinocchio

[maidan.izrailovich]

Svarog (Vladimir)
I have never heard that the leaders of major world powers would open bridges, roads ..

Everyone hears and sees what one wants.

Xi Jinping has opened the world's largest 55-kilometer bridge, which connects Hong Kong and Macau, ...

https://polit.ru/article/2018/10/23/hundredwords/?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews
But even without this example absolutely do not care what the leaders of other countries are doing there.

[Ros 56]

And what remains for him, the joint venture and TP through the stump deck have pumped, now the bridge remains, I'm afraid that banderlog will be taken away over time.

[Vadim237]

JV 2 is left to lay 50 kilometers, the first two threads of the Turkish stream have already been laid and connected. The Baltic stream is almost completed - you are not tired of whining.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: Vadim237

You are not tired of whining.

Tired of it. But I want 10 cents ...

[Ros 56]

It is you who howl, and I express my opinion. And it remains to lay 160 km, and not 50, well, a cherry on a cake of about 3 lard greens Khokhlam will have to be exfoliated, plus transit almost on their terms. You can beat the drums, but our leadership has messed up quite large, sadly.

[Victor N]

All people, regardless of gender, age, education, religion, citizenship, are divided into OWNERS and ALIENS: the former rejoice at the achievements of Russia, and the latter failures. By this criterion, there is no third.

[Geo⁣]

Quote: Victor N

According to this criterion, there is no third

Those. Does everybody go joyful? For example now, some from the Crimean bridge, others from the contribution to Ukraine. Russia, a unique country of extremely joyful people - everyone in it will find something to rejoice in.
So, it turns out?

[Lelek]

Quote: Victor N

By this criterion, there is no third.

It happens, Victor, it happens when their own "zebots", their own "gun-lugs" face the table and - "chase !!!"

[Non liberoid Russian]

you need to be afraid to crap at the wrong time ... which you did

[Piramidon]

Quote: Svarog

he has nothing to do

open the same thing several times

You have nothing to do this, except to throw manure on the fan. How much did you buy a machine? For woodpeckers at all - he discovered railway traffic in the subject of the Russian Federation. Does it happen there every day in liberosvidomy?

[Dmitry Vyazmenskiy]

He does a lot of things that he cannot afford or does not want, or his mind is not enough. It’s also intentionally necessary!

[Den717]

Quote: Svarog

I have never heard that leaders of major world powers have bridges, roads open .. cheap PR.

And you yourself organize something, like building a bridge .... do expensive PR. Go harder than a doghouse did not compose anything?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Den717

Go harder than a doghouse did not compose anything?

Not. "Svarog", I remember, is building a house ... that's building and building everything ... for 15 years already, EMNIP

[Kamikaze19]

Rotherbergberg called him at night and reported that they could install the arch. Apparently he is really important to him. I'm talking about the bridge)

[Vadim237]

He will also open a bridge across the Lena in Yakutsk, on Sakhalin with an 800 km railway junction and possibly 9 km across the Volga in Samara.

[georggy]

And through the Ob, etc.

[Non liberoid Russian]

I wonder if instead of Putin there was a sternum mustache or a bald zyuganov you also carried your game the same way?

[Alex Nevs]

What is it like!

[Svetlana]

Read about the opening of a bridge between Denmark and Sweden, with the participation of Danish Queen Margrethe II and King of Sweden Carl XVI Gustav

[Servisinzhener]

Maybe the logic here is: - "If I have not seen, then this does not happen."

[Servisinzhener]

Quote: Svarog

I have never heard that the leaders of major world powers would open bridges, roads ..

Below you have brought examples. I want to say that we receive news from the Russian media and, as in any other national media, the main flow of information is events related to the country. And a number of the most relevant events in other countries.
This may give the impression that any events take place constantly, and rarely in other countries. It is unlikely that you start the day by reading the news feeds Kyodo Tsusin, Joseon_ilbo, Deutsche Press Agent. Or like Trump constantly watching Fox News.

[Sarmat Sanych]

How??? Castrolegolovy kept repeating from all irons that we will not build?

Rogulia burns out by farms, the glow is visible from Rostov. But seriously, Russian bridge building is one of the most powerful, in 3rd place in the world, in 19 years more new bridges were built in Russia than half a century before, including the period of the RSFSR. The bridge over the Amur was completed, it is larger than the largest 19-kilometer Crimean one in Europe, a gigantic construction of the Salekhard-Labytnangi road-bridge section (with a bridge over the Ob) with a total length of 230 km (!) Has begun, megastructure of bridges across the Lena and Sakhalin will soon begin.

[Mestny]

Now they have a new song.
They say this is not an achievement. And so, attention is not worth it.

[New Year day]

Quote: Mestny

They say this is not an achievement. And so, attention is not worth it.

The bridge is an achievement and attention is, without a doubt

[Edik]

Quote: Silvestr

The bridge is an achievement and attention is, without a doubt

Heather Silvestr I didn’t want to get into the deal with Svarog! I threw the horse at the crossing I even put you a plus

[New Year day]

Quote: Edik

The cunning Silvestr wink did not want to get along with Svarog under the distribution! He threw his horse at the crossing

are there only patterns in my head? think primitively

[Sarmat Sanych]

Mestny, well they can be trusted. Such trizums from fat spread))). True, all that Ukraine has built in the Rat in 23 years is a slider with a view of Yalta, there are even photos on the network.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Mestny

Now they have a new song.
They say this is not an achievement. And so, attention is not worth it.

The first train is coming. In the cockpit, a howling sound is heard coming from outside. VVP asks the driver - "Do you need to drive with the horn on all the time, are these the requirements of the regulations?" The machinist replies - "This is not a whistle. This is how Ukrainian patriots howl so much that you can hear them here."

[Nkv3]

Do you want to compare Russia with Ukraine?
For some reason, I’m with China.
What do you think, in whose favor will the comparison be in my case even on the same bridges?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Let us then compare the conditions in which Russia and China have developed over the past thirty years.

[Terenin]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Let us then compare the conditions in which Russia and China have developed over the past thirty years.

True, the rapid growth of the Chinese economy is due to the fact that the US market was opened for China. Now the slowdown in this growth is due to the fact that the US market has begun to slowly approach saturation. And when in the end this market is completely saturated, a recession will begin in China. This scenario is no surprise to anyone. Realizing this, the Chinese authorities some time ago made a number of decisive attempts to switch the economy to domestic demand, but so far they have not succeeded.

[Edik]

Quote: Terenin

True, the rapid growth of the Chinese economy is due to the fact that the US market was opened for China.

This is one of them! And the basis is that corporations came there with a bunch of dough! And think how they themselves will block access to the market? And of course, this is the people who deserve it! Because they plowed ...
Well, of course, our partners will say, but there is no power to steal in power!

[Igorpl]

Do not compare, but strive.

[Sarmat Sanych]

With Ukraine (poorer Moldovans according to the IMF) in feverish delirium, no one even compares Honduras, because average Ukrainian salaries are 4 times less than Honduras, even the President of Somalia said in 2018: "I will not allow my country to be turned into Ukraine!" And he is right, because in 28 years Ukraine has lost half of its population, it was 52 million, there are 26 left, and in Somalia at least the population is growing. With regards to comparing Russia and China, then China has 10 times more people and gold and foreign exchange reserves of $ 3,5 trillion, so in the ratio of the economy, Russia is building significantly more bridges than the Chinese. And those projects that our bridge builders are implementing - Krymsky on the most difficult soils of 120 meters of silt deep and the Salekhard-Labytnangi mega-construction in permafrost with a length of 230 kilometers - even China and the Union with all 15 republics have never built this, I generally keep quiet about the rest of the planet. But there will be more daunting ones through the Lena and Sakhalin, be proud of our bridge builders.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

even China and the Union with all 15 republics have never built such a thing, I am generally silent about the rest of the planet.

At least such a fact: Anchorage, where all American roads end, 1 ° south of Yakutsk, from which to the north still saw and saw. There will be as many roads in Anchorage as there are around Yakutsk, then we scratched the back of the head - yes, we lag behind ...

[Sarmat Sanych]

Oyo Sarkazmi, it should also be noted here that in Ankorridge it is much warmer in winter than in Yakutsk, there the current greatly smoothes. In general, in vast Alaska, the Americans built roads at best on 3% of the territory, Canadians generally live on a thin strip of the border with the United States, the rest is uninhabited, the same Vancouver in the same lane and with the same climate as our Sochi. And Russia, meanwhile, is building the Northern Latitudinal Railway, which will connect our entire Arctic with railways, plus Arctic ports, the Arctic airport of Sabetta, and so on. Only we have built full-fledged cities at such severe latitudes, the same Salekhard, Labytnangi, Novy Urengoy, Norilsk, etc. Even the richest Norway could not master and populate even 30% of its micro-territory. Well, no one except Russians can live in the North, he does not succumb to them!)) Therefore, we took the Lomonosov Ridge and the Rise of Mendeleev (in the amount of 45% of the World Arctic) to ourselves.

[Lelek]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

And he is right, because in 28 years Ukraine has lost half the population, there were 52 million, 26 left,

If something has disappeared somewhere, then something has arrived somewhere. The population in the Ruin has fallen, but the debt has arrived. And then another zrad crawled, and from whom ?. From Trump's wide friendship.

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

Ukraine in 28 years has lost half the population, it was 52 million, 26 remain

Yes, write already 2.6, why feel sorry for them

[Sarmat Sanych]

Anonymous, unfortunately these are harsh facts. uh
Accurate statistics based on the consumption of bread and flour by the population, an internationally recognized UN methodology. These studies were carried out in 2017 by a dozen experts from a number of leading European research institutes together with the Institute of Demography of the National Academy of Sciences of the Outskirts. As a result, we received disappointing results: there are about 26 million people in the Outskirts. These calculations were necessary, including for the IMF and WHO, since the Outskirts have refused to conduct a population census for 19 years in a row (fearing of course the terrible truth), all of their supporters from Kuchma to Waltsman, the current Zelemoisha once gave a hint, but it got lost, even money for the census in the budget for next year was not included.

[kjhg]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

Accurate statistics calculated based on the consumption of bread and flour by the population, internationally recognized UN methodology

Some of the same "smart people" shout that according to the registry office the population of Russia is less than 90 million people. Do you believe that too?

[Sarmat Sanych]

kjhg, I repeat once again, this is not "some vparivayut", but the Institute of Demography of the National Academy of Sciences of the Outskirts - the main research institute on this topic in the independent plus, together with well-known European demographers, who clearly cannot be called clever in quotes. And in Russia everything is in order, 146,7 million, we conduct a population census regularly, and with numerous UN observers, and the fact that over the past 6 years at least 100 thousand Russians of the outskirts become citizens of the Russian Federation ANNUALLY - no one denies this either. At least 1 million Russians from Kazakhstan have moved to Russia in 28 years, about 200 thousand Belarusians, in particular, I am a native of Mogilev, since the mid-2000s a citizen of the Russian Federation.

[kjhg]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

this is not "some are pushing", but the Institute of Demography of the National Academy of Sciences of the Outskirts

Actually, the registry office is also not an institution of noble girls. It counts every born and every deceased in the country.

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

over the past 6 years, at least 100 thousand Russians Outskirts every year become citizens of the Russian Federation - this also no one denies. At least 1 million Russians in Kazakhstan moved to Russia in 28 years, about 200 thousand Belarusians, in particular, I am a native Mogilev citizen, and from the mid-2000s a citizen of the Russian Federation.

You have forgotten about the millions of Central Asian and Transcaucasian "brothers" who have received Russian citizenship. But here's a curiosity, even with ALL YOU becoming citizens, the population of Russia continues to die out. This year alone, the net loss of more than 250000 people, according to GDP. Who else will be given citizenship instead of dying Russians? Ethiopians?

[Sarmat Sanych]

kjhd, what the hell is the "registry office", these infantile fakes from the Khorokhdovskaya garbage dump 6 years ago are no longer even pots, and you just woke up. And then I’ll say in the same way that only 2 million of the remaining Arabs remained in the Zirail of those who were elected, or that in Matrasia it was not 320 and 220 million, and the White Anglo-Saxons generally became extinct and they are actually not 25% but 10%, and I will refer to the registry offices. You simply do not understand how statistics work, it takes into account the population in any country, not only according to the census, but also on the annual consumption by households of the country of consumer goods, food, electricity, the number of jobs in the state and much, much more. Even 5% of the population cannot be concealed, neither in plus nor in minus, it is unrealistic, those who are familiar with this industry will understand, and you are talking about the disappearance of 40%. In our country, however, energy consumption is growing, and consumption of products is growing, and moreover, all the more so, from year to year 19 years in a row. For the last 5 years in a row, 75-80 million square meters of housing has been built in Russia (this is more than in the best periods of the RSFSR), and they are selling out. But on the outskirts, both energy and food consumption from the 91st dropped by almost 3 times, we will make an adjustment for the destruction of industry and still come to a logical conclusion - the number of non-fallow lands has decreased by at least 2 times. You should visit this Coast of Svidomo Kosti (I have relatives in Kiev and Kharkov region), you would see that all the villages and towns are empty, the cities are half empty. According to preliminary estimates by experts, over 28 years, at least 2,5 million Russians have been outskirts of the Russian Federation, and this is without 2,5 million residents of Krumma.
Further, stop these nonsense about "Central Asian" weaving, we have 146,7 million Russians, according to the last census 79% are Russians, when applying for citizenship, nationality is indicated, at the birth of a child, nationality is also indicated, I doubt that any Ingush or Kyrgyz indicated their born daughter or son as Russian. Yes, you understand everything. I look at the statistics of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FMS, which is part of its structure, for this year, almost 2019 thousand people received citizenship, of which 210 thousand are from the Outskirts (that is, Russians), about 145 from Belarus (that is, Russians, like me before, we are one people) , a little less than 6000 thousand from Kazakhstan (from there only the Russians go in bulk, you will not find a Kazakh with fire in the daytime), to all the other Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Germany (from there, by the way, 30 thousand), Tajikistan, Moldova-Transnistria (from there, by the way, also Russians going), Armenia and other Azerbaijanis are about 1 thousand. So draw your conclusions. And I said this at a minimum in the previous message of 30 million from Kazakhstan, where the number of Russians has decreased by 1 million in 28 years, of course, most of them left for Russia, plus from the rest of the republics of Central Asia and Transcaucasia, at least one and a half million Russians from 4 left, it is logical that most of them went to Russia, not everyone had the opportunity to move farther.
And the last thing, learn the materiel, minus 250 thousand is a natural decrease WITHOUT an influx of migration, in fact, minus 40 thousand only. I don’t know what Putin said, a person can be wrong, no one is perfect, but there are dry numbers, they are given to you. By the way, the birth rate per 1 fertile woman we have is 1,6-1,8 children, which is higher than the average for Europe, but something no one panics that "Europe is dying out." Another thing is that in the 90s there was a gigantic demographic and emigration hole, fewer women of fertile age, and our fertility rate is growing, from 1,2 to 1,8, from 2012 to 2014 it was generally 2. Don't worry, soon citizens of the Russian Federation there will be 4 million Russian Donetsk residents, and even the slightest demographic problems of Russia will be solved.

[Stena]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

And in Russia, everything is in order, 146,7 million, we conduct a population census regularly, moreover with numerous UN observers, and even during the last 6 years at least 100 thousand Russians Outskirts become ANNUAL citizens of the RF ANNUALLY - this also is not denied.

Sorry, Sanych, but here is a huge question - how many of them are the titular nation? Unfortunately, if the tendency to birth in Russian families of less than 3 children continues (with a completely disgusting approach to life in the media), then in the foreseeable future we will not be the Russian Federation, but the Russian Muslim province.
By the way, on the issue of profitability in transit of gas through an independent territory: it can be profitable for any technically sound and permissible amount of transit. Example - pumped 90 billion. Transit price - $ 2,3 per thousand cubic meters. (km). Pumping 40 billion at the price of 5,175 - all the same.

[Sarmat Sanych]

Stena, calm down and react less to these "Muslim" fears. There are only 16 million Muslims in Russia, less than 11% of the population, they have a small starting base, even to increase to 15% - it takes 20 years, provided that 3-4 children are born in each family (which is in itself ineffective, not everyone gets married) and provided that the Russians will have 1,6 for every fertile woman. But this increase is not destined to come true, soon 5 million Russians of the LDNR will receive passports of the Russian Federation (almost 300 thousand have already received them) and there will be more than 82% of Russians.
With regard to transit, the tariff is calculated according to the tariffs on European gas hubs, not higher, and ALL EU GAS HUBS CONTROL GAZPROM WITH ITS EUROPEAN PARTNERS. Guess what the taffy will be. At some point Gazprom may set ZERO on other hubs, and Naftogaz cannot be set higher, and if it does, the concern has every right not to pump. Everything is elementary. That is why Zelemoyisha has already announced that Outskirts hopes to receive $ 5 billion from transit over 7 years (although it received $ 5 billion over the past 15 years).

[Stena]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

Stena, calm down and react less to these "Muslim" fears.

This was mainly expressed by representatives of the Russian Orthodox Church, for example, Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov. And he is an expert in the field of family, motherhood and childhood. She just won’t say that.

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

Muslims in Russia are only 16 million, less than 11% of the population, they have a small initial base, even to increase to 15% - it takes about 20 years, provided that 3-4 children are born in each family (which is not oral, not everyone gets married) and provided that the Russians will have 1,6 for every fertile woman.

Statistics is a good thing, especially in the context of information warfare and disinformation. One can say "only 16 million", but it is possible - already 16 million.

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

But this increase is not destined to come true, soon 5 million Russian LDNRs will receive Russian passports (almost 300 thousand have already received) and there will be more than 82% of Russians.

On the partisan detachment of 3 Ukrainians-one traitor? If only it weren’t in the movies:

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

at some point, the industry can set ZERO on other hubs and Naftogaz cannot be set higher, and if it does, the concern has every right not to pump. Everything is elementary. That is why Zelemoyisha has already announced that Outskirts hopes to receive $ 5 billion from transit over 7 years (although it received $ 5 billion over the past 15 years).

It's right. how true that

Quote: Stena

By the way, on the issue of profitability in transit of gas through an independent territory: it can be profitable for any technically sound and permissible amount of transit. Example - pumped 90 billion. Transit price - $ 2,3 per thousand cubic meters. (km). Pumping 40 billion at the price of 5,175 - all the same.

Profitability is a relative concept (both in meaning and in the calculation formula) - nothing more. If you want, I will draw 10%, and if you want, I will draw 50%.

[Sarmat Sanych]

Stena, kidding me? What nafig "Archpriest Smirnov", and here this old man who went as a cuckoo? Is he a certified specialist in the field of demography, international statistics, or maybe he works as a minister at least in the Government? Let this grandpa not meddle in his business and teach the Word of God, he was not taught anything else. Even the believers laugh at this archpriest with his hysteria, and the Russian Orthodox Church has officially announced that this is only his personal opinion. With regards to statistics, it is so good that it is dry numbers, regardless of the information war. That we did not have Barshiria, Tatarstan, the North Caucasus, etc. in the Union before? Have they just appeared now? Look how much the population of the North Caucasus Federal District, Bashkiria, Tatarstan has "increased" over 29 years, you see, immediately stop writing panicky "already". And finally, about fantasies with tariffs, the Outskirts for the year received $ 3 billion from transit earlier, and after the new contract, Zelemoysh already announced that in the next 5 years, the Outskirts would receive only $ 7 billion, that is, less than $ 1,5 billion a year. Here you have the whole tariff.
PS And do not confuse the Russian LDNR, defending the Russian World with arms in hand at the cost of their lives - with deceitful corrupt Ukrainians. Between them there is nothing in common and never was before, re-read the "Young Guard".

[Sarmat Sanych]

Stena, you are doing casuistry and spinning around like a frying pan, realizing the insignificance of your position. 16 million versus 146,8 million of the total population (of which 79% are Russian)? Yes, it's really minuscule. And I don't even understand, you suffer from Islamophobia, do you want to leave some Russians? What kind of incontinence, what kind of ridiculous attempts at poisoning and hysteria? Relax, Stena, your bullshit won't give a ride, we'll be fine. With regards to this old man, I repeat - even the official ROC has renounced his rubbish, what other grades a sane person needs. These whiners-lamentors, they have been in Russia in all centuries, and Russia has only become stronger and more powerful for centuries. And where is the personality of Fadeev, if the book is based on DOCUMENTED EVENTS. We are talking about real Donetsk citizens made of titanium and steel, who fought to the death both in the Second World War and now, endured and are undergoing inhuman tortures comparable to the torments of early Christian martyrs - just to defend their RUSSIAN LAND OF DONBASS. What kind of petty whiner Stena do you need more proof from these people so that you stop turning on your snotty organ about "2 Ukrainian squad with a traitor" and other husk? Go gahni vodka and don't write any more.

[Stena]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

16 million compared to 146,8 million of the total population (of which 79% are Russian)? Yes, this is really a miser.

Yes. and horseradish is not sweeter than radish.
minuscule - a very small amount? Is 16 million people a very small number? wow. within the statistical error? from the rubric "For a mad dog, seven miles is not a hook"? again manipulation.

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

Relax, Stena, your garbage will not take a ride, everything will be all right with us.

you have a convenient position here I want to see. but here it’s not suitable for your speculation, so I don’t see. manipulation again.
Let me know, but what exactly do you ascribe to me?
I gave you links to your own writings. and pointed to a contradiction

Quote: Stena

and here is your recommendation to re-read "Young Guard" as a visual aid. its author, Aleksandr Aleksandrovich Fadeev, according to information from Wikipedia "From 1912 to 1918, Fadeev studied at the Vladivostok Commercial School, but did not finish his studies, deciding to devote himself to revolutionary activities." that is, not a certified specialist.
how is it that - here you can trust Fadeev, but Archpriest Smirnov, it is impossible. some kind of wonderful logic, don’t you?

how do your statements fit in with one another?

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

We are talking about real Donetsk residents from titanium and steel

you write from the museum, or what?

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

We are talking about real Donetsk citizens from titanium and steel, who fought to death both in the Second World War and now, have undergone and are undergoing inhuman torture comparable to the peaks of the early Christian martyrs - only to survive in order to defend YOUR RUSSIAN LAND OF DONBASS.

you in your own words know how to broadcast, or you forgot a training manual on watered. are you trying to shift communism in a modern way?

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

Stena, you do casuistry and spin like in a pan, realizing the insignificance of your position.

but I have no attitude towards you and your writings. I to you. just showing that your logic is full of contradictions. therefore, you yourself have put such an assessment.
that's why. it turns out that "mel. land, your week" in relation to your "creativity".

[Sarmat Sanych]

Stena, you are bored, a set of stamps, the thought goes in a circle, your next surge can be predicted. Stop imitating the presence of intelligence.

[Stena]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

Stena, you are bored, a set of stamps, the thought goes in a circle, your next surge can be predicted. Stop imitating the presence of intelligence.

symmetrically.
make an effort predict.
or as usual - a finger in the opera? Well, you don’t get used to the party organizers.

[Sarmat Sanych]

Stena, I already managed to go on vacation and on a long business trip, and you are still bored and stuck in the last millennium of humor

[Stena]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

stuck in the last millennium of humor

Who are the judges?

[Sarmat Sanych]

Do you talk to yourself? Okay, do not distract me, I'm busy.

[Stena]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

Do you talk to yourself? Okay, do not distract me, I'm busy.

Symmetrically.
Could not write anything. I can predict your answers with an accuracy of 95%.
You didn’t understand the situation at all - he recorded me in the counter and the enemies of progressive humanity. Obviously, this site is full of nicknames, with an openly Russophobic position. Therefore, someone with a reasonable position on the justification of the correctness of the actions of Russia (RF) is required - there is no doubt.
But at the same time, consider your position as the only true one without regard to the existing reality, and whoever points out the logical contradictions of this approach - as enemies and useless halfwits?
Only on the basis of what did you write me down as an enemy of my homeland of Russia then?

[Sarmat Sanych]

Well, in the "party organizers" you signed me up, I kind of didn't put labels before. Once a month, as you see, I go to the site and write not for the hype, but purely for the facts that I know. In general, there is so much whining on the Internet that I have not seen this, and in the 90s, when 99% of the people lived 10 times worse than now, such a picture, whatever one may say, provokes opposition. If you are not one of the hyipers, then I'm sorry, but I put a minus because I did.

[Stena]

I'm not offended. Peace?

[Sarmat Sanych]

No questions

[Stena]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

And do not confuse the Russian LDNR, who defend the Russian World with weapons in their hands at the cost of their lives - with deceitful corrupt Ukrainians. Between them there is nothing in common and has never been before, re-read the "Young Guard".

again a contradiction. that's about

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

What nafig "Archpriest Smirnov", and here this old man who went as a cuckoo? Is he a certified specialist in the field of demography, international statistics, or maybe he works as a minister at least in the Government? Let this grandpa not meddle in his business and teach the Word of God, he was not taught anything else

and here is your recommendation to re-read "Young Guard" as a visual aid. its author, Aleksandr Aleksandrovich Fadeev, according to information from Wikipedia "From 1912 to 1918, Fadeev studied at the Vladivostok Commercial School, but did not finish his studies, deciding to devote himself to revolutionary activities." that is, not a certified specialist.
how is it that - here you can trust Fadeev, but Archpriest Smirnov, it is impossible. some kind of wonderful logic, don’t you?
and the experience of communication with the Ukrainians does not allow us to unambiguously determine who is sitting in the rear for the Russian world and who is lying and. etc.
and how who will behave in a situation of choice ...

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

In 2017, a dozen experts from a number of leading European research institutes conducted these studies together with the Demography Institute of the National Academy of Sciences of the Outskirts. And the result was disappointing: in the outskirts of about 26 million people.

Can you confirm this nonsense with links to the study itself ?.

[Sarmat Sanych]

Is it difficult for you to copy the info into a pliskovik? Themselves pens.

[Good_Anonymous]

Those. I myself must seek confirmation of the delirium. I thought so.

[Sarmat Sanych]

Burns? Get used to it, but you yourself understand that this is true. By the way, the fact that only 26 million Oksrintsy remained was already voiced by a number of candidates for the presidency of Khokhlumbia at the beginning of 2019 and even deputies of the current Rada from its rostrum, the video on the network is full, everyone has come to know the studies hundreds of times. By the way, the population calculation method for the consumption of bread and flour is an exact internationally recognized by the UN and the World Health Organization.

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

Does it burn?

No. This is not the first time I argue with you and I know what to expect.

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

By the way, the fact that only 26 million of Oksrintsy remained was voiced by a number of candidates for the presidency of Khokhlumbia at the beginning of 2019

And you will not provide a link to this either.

[Sarmat Sanych]

Bots, do you at least understand that predictable is ridiculous? You even start to make me feel sorry for you, one pokemon about "links" to well-known things (the link to the fact that the State Emergency Committee was overthrown?), Now there is also a collective bot's work on double minus comments on the news two weeks ago... I thought a bit of a handicap for the ladies bot farm, it is clear that you have a bombale from the opening of Europe's largest Bridge, but in response only the expected kindergarten. "Boring, girls" (c).

[Vadim237]

You can compare anything with anything you like - the output will be an empty comparison.

[georggy]

Salekhard-Labytnangi has already "built" it turned out to be a little expensive. Zakoyly.

[Sarmat Sanych]

George, Salekhard-Labytnangi will be new! Moreover, they will connect to the port of Sabetta, plus Norilsk will also be connected by a piece of iron to the Bolshaya Zemlya and further to the side of Yakutia is another section on permafrost. This is all called the Northern Latitudinal Stroke - a project similar to which no one has built in the history of mankind.

[georggy]

Will be. The sleep of an old horse. 24.12.19/XNUMX/XNUMX it will not be officially said.
Fantasy is over.
...

[Sarmat Sanych]

Wake up and listen again to what was said on 24.12. And no longer go there where you don't understand nicherta. Our office is now working with JSC Yamal Railway Company, negotiations with State Duma Yakob Solomonovich Kraft, unlike you whiners from the Internet, I know first-hand information.

[georggy]

No need to rattle your tongue, oddly bazuno smart. The language bothers you.

[Sarmat Sanych]

Wash the footcloths first and then crawl out to decent people. I’ve completely lost the stall, I haven’t been taken for an injection for a long time ?! Rejoice that you are not nearby, for a week if you need to find out even when you have your first milk tooth pulled out.

[Private89]

The bridge is ready it's good +
With the launch of freight trains, we are waiting for lower prices in stores for ordinary Crimeans.
As Vladimir Semyonovich sang: “
It was the case and prices were reduced.
And the channels flowed where needed
And in the end, where necessary, fell into. ”
Although Vladimir Semyonovich was probably singing about some other country, with a different economic model, and with a different attitude towards people.

[kjhg]

Quote: Private 89

With the launch of freight trains, we are waiting for lower prices in stores for ordinary Crimeans.

This is from the realm of fiction. Expect annual price increases. Why? Capitalism

[Private89]

Actually, I said that)

[jekasimf]

And rightly so! Hooray comrades!

[eagle owl]

From behind the Azov puddle I heard the howl "Hologram !!!!" Then there were pops and pulled by digestive gases

[Roman070280]

Well, that was built, of course ..
And could do it more often, like our neighbors ..

[Mestny]

Is it Chinese?
Here the site is Russian, they write about the successes of Russia.

[Roman070280]

I commented on the success, if you did not open your eyes properly ..

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: kit88

What would "do more often" and not be left without pants, you need to change something in the upper echelons. And it is not a sin to learn from our Chinese comrades.
For example, if Colonel Zakharchenko was an officer of the PLA, what would his court condemn?
A couple of dozens of sentences like them, you look and the Cosmodromes will be surrendered on time.

Just in the subject of your proposals:
“I don’t know why the Russians don’t do anything about corruption, but I know what they did here.
Corruption on the scale of Russia can be dealt with in a month; But this is impossible, as long as you are ashamed of places like Butovo landfill, and they hang memorial signs about alleged repression there, ”he said.
“It hurts us from China to look at people who spit on their great past and because of this are deprived of their great future. We are proud of our shooting ranges, because everything that prevents the state from becoming great is buried there - corruption, theft, external control, enemy propaganda, cosmopolitanism, debauchery, exploitation of workers, human rights, thoughtless consumerism. We are done with this and therefore now claim to be the first in the world. "
https://panorama.pub/28343-vyslali-kitajskogo-diplomata.html

[Sarmat Sanych]

Vladimir_6, you're kidding? Do you believe in Santa Claus?) "Panorama" is a humorous media, they post like "official" news for fun, already a couple of years ago and no one will repost, I didn’t know that someone else remained leading on their nonsense. Let's copy Odnoklassniki and Picabu here.
By the way, in China, one of the highest corruption on the planet, official information, the annual outflow of capital from the PRC is about $ 1 trillion, they certainly fight, but nichrome does not help, almost all the kids at the top of the CCP have passports from Canada, the USA and Britain, the Canadian government in response on sanctions threatened to publish information on personalities, China then immediately gave the back. Recently, the mayor of one of the Chinese cities of the central province found 11 (!!!) tons of gold in his mansion, the mayor seems to have leaked

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

Vladimir_6, you're kidding

Of course I'm kidding. Kamrad refers to the PLA, and I threw the exile.
And my personal opinion for embezzlers corresponds to a scene from "Gentlemen of Fortune".
"Ethical - unethical! They are tricking us with them, they bail them, but it is necessary, as in Turkey in the old days: they put the thief in a vat of shit, only the head sticks out and they carry it around the city. And above him is a janissary with a sword ... and every 5 minutes zip with a sword over
chan, - so if the thief does not dive - head off your shoulders! So he shit and dived all day. "

[Sarmat Sanych]

Vladimir_6, this is how these amateurs touch me, then "against the wall", then "in a vat of shit", then "saber". Guys, you haven't played enough of the Cossack-robbers in the vision? We live in the 21st century, such garbage does not work anymore, even Turkey and China understood this. By the way, instead of yelling about "And there! ..." and watching video memes on the Internet about "corruption!" In Russia, unlike most other countries, there is a fight against corruption. Since 2011, the Investigative Committee has sent more than 80 thousand criminal cases of corruption to court, this year alone 11 thousand. Former generals and mayors and former governors Khoroshavin, Gaizer, Belykh and others, former ministers Ulyukaev and Kuznetsov, the former head of the Federal Penitentiary Service, dispossessed oligarchs Magomedovs (the campaign will be 25 years old), former senators Izmestyev (generally for life), Arashukovs, former bankers are also sitting Last year, the entire Sochi mayor's office was closed, along with the directors of municipal companies, the list is long. I have a number of lawyers who are acquaintances throughout the European part of the Russian Federation, they say so many criminal cases against officials under Article 159.4 and corruption as the last couple of years - they will not remember at all, the purge is like in 37m, only without executions. This is not America (and in fact Europe) where bribes and corruption are officially legalized under the name "lobbyism", and the last audit of the Pentagon revealed a shortage of 2 trillion (!), As a result, the proceedings were hushed up with the wording: "This harms the defense capability of the United States.".

[sabotage]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

In Russia, unlike most other countries, there is just a fight against corruption.

In Chelyabinsk, two former governors are wanted, two former mayors of the criminal, but it is not a matter of combating corruption, but of redistributing the spheres of influence of the former and new teams of governors. If the struggle goes on, then call me at least 2 people holding the posts of governors, ministers or deputies who are not involved in corruption scandals.

[Sarmat Sanych]

sabotage, what do you think "corruption scandals"? Memo rollers from a YouTube video? All evidence is just like that of Lyosha Navalenny, on fingers and in pictures. According to Dubrovsky, there are no criminal cases so far and he is not wanted, how will that be - there will be a conversation. And in fact, you can’t name 10 governors-ministers who were involved in REAL corruption cases, and even more so in criminal ones.

[sabotage]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

And in fact, you can’t name 10 governors-ministers who were involved in REAL corruption cases, and even more so in criminal ones.

I can call it: everything. Straight stopudas. You can deny the obvious, hello to mom.

[Sarmat Sanych]

sabotage, you can’t do nicherta, therefore you don’t call. Yes, relax already, your whining is not interesting to anyone.

[Vladimir_6]

Sergey, you express your thoughts too emotionally.
My childhood passed on the river bank. Therefore, not only in the Cossack robbers, but also in other games, my generation has played enough from the heart.

In the 21st century we live

From the birth of Christ. But as King Solomon said 2900 years ago: "There is nothing new under the sun. Everything that is has already been. And everything that will be today is."
This is what I stole, steal, and will steal until the end of this Age. And even fear of punishment does not stop them. Propagated by budding. Therefore, more drastic measures are needed.
Note, when the news reports that someone has stolen several million rubles, it is perceived as "a trifle in your pockets." They steal billions. For such, the punishment should be severe.

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

By the way, instead of yelling about "And there! ..." and watching video memes on the Internet about "corruption!"

So no one screams. We calmly communicate. So far, exactly your post is similar to op.

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

This is not America (and in fact Europe) where bribes and corruption are officially legalized under the name "lobbyism", and the last audit of the Pentagon revealed a shortage of 2 trillion (!), As a result, the proceedings were hushed up with the wording: "This harms the defense capability of the United States."

Despite being in the 21st century, capital punishment in the United States is legal punishment in 29 states.
In Russia, if not for embezzlement, then for pedophilia, premeditated murder and drug trafficking, it would not hurt to put it on the wall.

[Sarmat Sanych]

Vladimir, I apologize for the emotionality, but the Internet is so full of clicks and the above-mentioned screams that sometimes I myself become calm by nature, unrestrained. An hour ago, I talked with a similar troll on Yandex, I was not late for work because of him. In general, I agree with you, ESPECIALLY with the last review!

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

the Internet is so full of cries and the above-mentioned screams that sometimes calm by nature I become unrestrained.

Sergey should not take everything to heart. Everything in life goes on. Which have not be avoided. So take care of your health. The disadvantages you have are not from me.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Vladimir_6

We are done with this and therefore now claim to be the first in the world. "

Then they already do not have enough cartridges for corrupt officials to shoot, and they all multiply.

[eagle owl]

The Chinese have a working population TEN times more, they are obliged to do TEN times more than the Russian Federation. And they are not able to rivet an engine for a fighter - they buy from us. As for corruption, this is just about China. Or about billionaires - where are the most? China. It's about "don't steal". And the "communists", yes ... About organized crime, I generally keep quiet - the Triads have not gone anywhere.
So who else to learn from anyone else

[Karen]

Quote: Uhu

I am silent about organized crime - the Triads have not gone away.

They would ask how many Chinese policemen die annually at a military post ...

[eagle owl]

It means that it is bad not only "with the presence of thieves", but also "with the ability of the authorities to neutralize them" (c). By the way, Hong Kong was dispersed precisely with the help of the Hong Kong Triads - and this is a fusion of power with criminals!

[Roman070280]

The Chinese are doing hundreds of times more .. They generally do almost everything, if you carefully turn your head ..))
And about the engines, which for the most part were hurt by the Soviet Union - well, I'm glad that we have not profiled everything yet. What we have saved and continue to develop is atomic weapons, armament - no one denies this .. And the rest, no need to do it - we taught them decades ago ..

[Sarmat Sanych]

Again this morale about the "Soviet backlog", which the whiners seem to be going on for centuries . Guys, do you know that at 17m the Bolsheviks also got the country, not in an open field, but with the 4th economy and industry in the world? And the fact that the RF GDP by PPP per capita is almost twice as high as in the RSFSR at the economic peak of 2? And the fact that the volume of shipment of products of Russian ports has increased since 1990 by 1990 times? And the fact that the length of federal highways from 2 years increased from 91 thousand km to 39 thousand km? And the fact that pork production increased one and a half times and poultry meat by almost THREE AND A half times? But the fact that the annual Russian grain harvests are higher than the peak harvests of the RSFSR by 81-10%? But the fact that the industrial production volume of Russia in PPP for 30 is on the 2019th place in the world, for example, ahead of such countries as Britain, Italy and France, and Canada is three times ahead of Canada? And the fact that the volume of industrial production by PPP per capita in the Russian Federation and the USA is the same ?? Then we open the official data of the CIA Factbook and the IMF, we read and are surprised.
And it's especially ridiculous to talk about the "Soviet groundwork" in the nuclear industry, where Chernobyl, atomic disasters in the Chelyabinsk region, etc. a country possessing technologies for the complete reprocessing of nuclear weapons (we are even saving Fukushima Yaposham), a global leader in the nuclear industry, building 68% of new nuclear power plants on the planet in a dozen countries, 50% of the world's uranium enrichment, and so on. And do not forget that the nuclear industry is dozens of related industries, including mechanical engineering, materials science, physics of elementary particles, etc. It's funny about China, they can build nuclear power plants only with the help of us, they still can't even learn what the Union did in the joint-stock company in the 80s.

[Roman070280]

About China is generally funny

Well, businessmen like you are undoubtedly ridiculous ..
If only I could see where for 30 years we are, and where is China ..

[Sarmat Sanych]

In fact, China has 10 times more people, plus in China, the West has invested about $ 70 TRILLION in investments since the late 20s, and China did not go through like we did in the 90s, in fact, the second Civil War, massive emigration and total plunder. Plus, unlike China, no one shared hundreds of thousands of technologies with us (often for nothing). Finally, if you were in China, as you are now commenting on the network of coves, at best, you would go to work for free at construction sites for the national economy in Wuhan or at the most toxic rare earth mines on the planet in Inner Mongolia. You were very mistaken, citing China as an example, because our company has been sending delegations of builders to construction exhibitions in Beijing and Shanghai for almost 10 years, I know life in the Middle Kingdom better than anyone here on the site. In China, there are a lot of interesting "nishtyaks" that you guys are unlikely to like, for example, only 30% of the population pay pensions (before the early 90s it was generally 10%), there is no son or daughter to help - scatter in the trash. For example, any criticism of the Communist Party is prohibited, otherwise the mildest thing is to get a job only as a janitor or floor polisher. For example, a 6-day work week and a 12-hour work day are ubiquitous, and some companies sometimes make Sunday such a "weekend" that you can come to work without a shirt. For example, I will not describe the most severe centralization in everything, but the recent law that if he escaped from the hospital with suspected coronovirus is the death penalty is an eloquent example. Would you like such laws? Serious restrictions on religious freedoms, from the 70s to 2017 the ban on a 2nd child, the most catastrophic environmental situation on the planet, the complete absence of clean rivers, lakes, virgin forests - all this is also significant, but compared to what was said above, it’s trifles.
And yes, apart from China in terms of construction rates, there is no one to compare us with at all, 147 million Russia is even faster than 340 million US in terms of road and bridge construction, although we do not have a free multi-trillion printing press, Russia builds on its evenly earned and even orders of magnitude more harsher climate than in the PRC and the States.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Roman070280

And they could do it more often, like our neighbors.

Well, why are you talking empty-bells and comparing horseradish with apricot? There was also "perestroika" in China, Gorbachev, Yeltsin ...?

[Roman070280]

Well, why are you bothering me about your xpen ??
I didn’t arrange perestroika for you .. this is firstly .. The Chinese are also not to blame for the fact that without perestroika they did it .. this is secondly ..
Well, from the time of perestroika, tens of years have passed .. and China did not rise at all under Gorbachev or Yeltsin .. So chew silently apricots. this third ..

[Sarmat Sanych]

Roman070280, read above what I wrote. Our bridges are even more complex than the Chinese, despite the fact that the Chinese are 10 times larger and their economy 6 times larger. And the rest of the world in bridge building with Russia will not be able to compete.

[Roman070280]

Our bridges are even harder than the Chinese,

To read, I read you ..
But I see the exact opposite .. Therefore, it’s not even interesting to argue about something ..

[Sarmat Sanych]

You can see anything, but over the past 19 years, more bridges have been built in Russia than half a century before, including the period of the RSFSR. All these bridges are on the network, you can make sure by visiting each personally. I understand that many vsepalschikov now have a "blissful gopher" syndrome - a defensive reaction to what is happening, but this does not negate the reality of the highest level and volume of Russian transport construction. I myself am connected with the industry, I know many of its leaders personally, such large companies as USK "MOST", Mostostroy-11, Uralmostostroy, Mostotrest, VAD, Stroy-Trest, Giprostroymost-Spb, Urengoydorstroy and many others have increased the staff of builders in 10 years at 3. This alone speaks of truly ambitious plans of our transport workers, and the giant bridges across the Lena, Ob and Sakhalin will further increase the level of Russia's transport infrastructure.

[Roman070280]

You can see anything, but over the past 19 years, more bridges have been built in Russia than half a century before, including the period of the RSFSR.

Over the past half century, a dam has been built in my city (I think this can also be attributed to bridges, because the road has also been laid along it). creating a reservoir .. Three huge bridges were built, one of which, even a two-story one (several years trams ran on the second tier, then everything was safely kept), in addition, almost all the little bridges / overpasses / overpasses were built at the same time .. And they, for the whole city, certainly not a little !! And almost all of these bridges I drove personally ..

Over the past 19 years, not a single grandiose object has been built in my field of vision (we will not remember the Crimean bridge, or the bridge on Russky Island, because I am comparing my specific region) A couple of years ago they built one interchange, now there’s another overpass that has been renovated for 20 years was emergency .. both of these events are marked by the population as something extraordinary .. That's all ..
But I, of course, will believe more not what it is, but the staff increased by 3 times ..

shl. Yes, they are building dofig in Moscow, no doubt ... well, Putin opens all sorts of M11 there (over 2000 rubles for a car trip) .. that's where all your increased staff is probably working .. And they put a bolt on people for a long time if you don't see this "gopher" ..

and giant bridges across the Lena, Ob and Sakhalin will further increase the level of transport infrastructure in Russia.

I am not against it at all .. although I will never pass through these bridges .. But then again .. I’d better talk about what I see ..

16.11.2012, 13: 50
Design of the Ostuzhevskaya traffic intersection in Voronezh will be completed in August 2013
Design of the Ostuzhevskaya traffic intersection in Voronezh will be completed in August 2013
Voronezh. 16.11.2012/XNUMX/XNUMX. Business Information Agency (ABIREG.RU) - The Department of City Economy of the Voronezh Administration recently signed a contract with the Giprocommundortrans Design Institute (PI GKDT) for the design of a transport interchange at different levels at the intersection of Ostuzhev Street and Leninsky Prospekt in Voronezh. The contract is to be completed within nine months, the SCST press service said.

26.04.2016, 17: 42
Interchange project on the street Ostuzhev in Voronezh for years of waiting for its implementation rose in price to 3,3 billion rubles
Voronezh. 26.02.2016/3,28/XNUMX. ABIREG.RU - The cost of the construction of a traffic intersection at the intersection of Leninsky Prospekt and ul. Ostuzhev in Voronezh will exceed XNUMX billion rubles, follows from the recently approved program for the development of the transport system of the regional center.

It is noteworthy that in 2013 the two-year construction of this interchange estimated at 2 billion rubles. But due to a shortage of funds for the construction of roads, the plans of the city hall were postponed. In 2014, Mayor Alexander Gusev said that without the help of the regional budget, the implementation of this project is impossible.

24.01.2019 20:05
Reconstruction of the Ostuzhevskaya interchange in Voronezh will begin in 2019

The work will take place in three stages.
The Governor of the Voronezh region Alexander Gusev instructed to begin in 2019 the reconstruction of the traffic intersection at the intersection of Leninsky Prospekt and Ostuzhev Street. He gave such a team at a meeting in the regional government, in which deputy chairman Sergei Chistikin, Voronezh mayor Vadim Kstenin, officials and representatives of design organizations participated.

April 24 at 18:19 3979
The decision to build a junction on Ostuzhev Street in Voronezh will be made in the summer
The decision on the construction of a traffic intersection on Ostuzhev street will be made in the summer of 2019. This was told by Mayor Vadim Kstenin, reporting to the City Duma on Wednesday, April 24. According to him, the Ostuzhevskaya interchange can become one of the key objects of road construction in 2019. Project cost estimated at 5,1 billion rubles.

Well, as if changes in almost 10 years are visible to the naked eye - this is the cost of the project ..
As for the bridge itself .. they said that a three-fold increase in the number of employees is still not enough for a project that costs 1/40 of the Crimean bridge ..
I understand that the Crimean KGB is more important .. but once in 10 years you can build at least ..
Oh, what are we talking about .. this is me all-creeping guy ..

Construction of the Ostuzhevskaya interchange in Voronezh will begin in 2021
Now the project is undergoing state examination

The construction of the Ostuzhevskaya interchange is planned to begin in 2021, when the repair of viaducts on the streets of Lenin and January 9 will be completed. Now the denouement project is undergoing state examination. This was stated by Mayor Vadim Kstenin at a meeting with local media reporters.

The mayor also explained that the design cost of the interchange is about 6 billion rubles, but after passing the state examination she can change.

Or maybe they just wait until the price is equal to the Crimean ??
For reference: Danyang-Kunshan Viaduct 165km, the project cost China a little more than 1,46 billion dollars, and the Chinese spent an average of 8,8 thousand dollars per meter of bridge. Crimean bridge 19km, the cost of 4 billion dollars. On average, about 209 thousand dollars are spent per meter of the bridge.
Maybe there’s something wrong with the price somewhere, maybe our bridge is really more complicated (albeit 10 times shorter), although the Chinese project is really impressive in the photo, maybe some other errors ..
But the amounts are simply amazing with their difference !!


If they had been building the same way under the RSFSR .. we would still be sailing through wooden water boats over wooden boats .. because, with all due respect .. don’t grind nonsense .. As they say - you really confuse the coast ...

[Sarmat Sanych]

Bgggg... I knew that these fakes would go over the "Chinese bridges". I repeat - improve your level of education in order to speak with me in an equal dialogue. Nonsense about the Chinese bridge has been dismantled dozens of times.
For example, the cost of the Hong Kong-Macau-Zhuhai bridge is $ 19 billion, it was built ten times more simple climatic and geological conditions, the design is many times simpler, etc. Plus it was built 3 times longer than Krymsky for 3,5 billion. At the same time, our Bridge is multi-lane, plus with railway lines supporting, among other things, FREIGHT trains, that is, a reinforced structure that is not found in Chinese bridges. Already I am silent about the most complicated moving soils of 120 meters of silt depth.

Over the past 19 years, not a single grandiose object was built in my field of vision

Have they collapsed from the oak? The huge transport infrastructure of Sochi and its environs was built practically from scratch; in Soviet times, there was a cave age there. It is not without reason that Sochi has now become one of the most popular resorts in the world, annually receiving 14 million tourists. Since built and reconstructed a dozen new terminals at the airports of Moscow, Yekaterinburg, Sochi, St. Petersburg, Krasnoyarsk, Vladivostok, new airports in Rostov-on-Don, Gelendzhik, St. Petersburg, etc. The second BAM was built from ZERO, moreover quietly and casually, without tension as in Soviet times, all the forces of the country and without a rally from the entire Union to build the national economy, by the forces of Russia alone. A new giant bridge over the Amur at 40 km, new huge bridges in Volgograd, Surgut, Ulyanovsk, Saratov, the list is endless. Type in a search engine "new bridges of Russia in 20 years" and read. And what kind of crazy transport infrastructure has been built in St. Petersburg? And what about the two new cyclopean rings of the MCC and MGTs metro, connecting half of the Moscow region? And the fact that more new metro stations are cost in Russia per year than in all of Europe and the United States combined? And what about the new Russian ports and almost 2 times compared to the RSFSR) expansion of the old ones? Have you been to Tomani at least once, have you seen what is being built there? This construction site is visible even from space, this was not built even under Stalin. And don't even mention the dam, otherwise I will now begin to list how many hydrotechnical, oil and gas processing, oil and gas and energy facilities in the country have been built in 19. Or maybe new power units of our nuclear power plants appear so simply? Are aliens building the world's largest (!) Gas processing complexes in the Amur Region and Ust-Luga?) And the new largest port in the Baltic is larger than Rotterdam in the same Ust-Luga and a city in the same open field for 60 thousand people? And the largest petrochemical complex in Tobolsk fell on us from the planet Nibiru? I am already silent about the new military-industrial complex plants, one Almaz-Antey has erected two new ones in Kirovskaya and Nizhegorodskaya, now they bake S-400 for Russia and foreign customers like hot cakes. Is the new shipyard in Bolshoy Kamen with a capacity greater than all the shipyards of the RSFSR combined? And what about new metallurgical plants in Khakassia and the Magadan Region? And what fantastic sports and transport infrastructure has been built for the 2018 FIFA World Cup, recognized by FIFA as the best in the history of the tournament? As well as the Olympic Games in Sochi, by the way, which was confirmed by the IOC. And are you aware that the share of the entire Union in the world market for the construction of new nuclear power plants was only 20%, and now Rosatom is building 68% of new nuclear power plants on the planet in a dozen countries? The rest of the world adds up to a paltry 32%.
All ports of the USSR handled 600 million tons per year. In Russia alone, with 2 times less population and resources, there are now more than a billion tons. More than 75% of Russian production capacities in the processing industry were created in the 2000s, with an average product age of 12 years. 3 new airports, 12 new stations were built, several more new ones are being completed. The length of federal highways doubled: from 39 thousand km to more than 80 thousand. To compare the underdeveloped Soviet transport infrastructure can either blinkered or really sick.
And finally, what kind of bourgeois approach about "what is there somewhere building I will never go on them"?)) If you really remember the Soviet era, then the Soviet person rejoiced at any achievements of the country, knowing that he himself would never use them personally, nothing will ever come from this. Be consistent and objective, Russia has a lot to be proud of.

[Roman070280]

I repeat - tighten your level of education to speak with me in an equal dialogue.

The more I read, the more I understand that I will not go down to that level with all desire ..))

What kind of bourgeois approach is this about "what is being built somewhere, I will never go on them"?))

Be consistent .. sounded literally - I don’t mind at all .. although I’ll never cross these bridges ..

In Sochi, yes - a lot has been built .. although, again - at what cost !! It has already been chewed hundreds of times that there is little where you can meet such theft of funds .. (although, the Vostochny Cosmodrome or the Zenith Arena might not agree with this)
"fantastic infrastructure" is like empty ice rinks ??
Or those stadiums for the World Cup that washed away with water after a week ?? Or those that are not washed away, and about which all experts discuss what to do with them, so as not to incur losses on the maintenance ??
Market, private traders, investor. Uncle built a toll road in the field .. collects money, pays off slowly .. half the trouble, as they say .. And then they built the infrastructure .. sky park .. where an elastic jump costs 20 rubles .. But this is not about payback. It was all built on a budget ..
Well, for the OI, we will now "pay off" for a long time .. even if not with money, but simply with a ban on sports ..
What was there about Gelendzhik ?? Last summer, I was just resting there .. Well, not a bad town .. again, I didn’t see anything new and outstanding .. Everything was Soviet .. the sewer was in the sea .. there was an utter stink on the embankment ..

Or maybe the new power units of our nuclear power plants so easily appear?

So of all the former heritage, only atomics remained, but the military-industrial complex .. you don’t have to remember about space .. It's nice to listen to how Zakat’s portfolio grew from 50 years to 100 years .. and what is the turn for S-400 .. All the more you fall into a stupor with the fact that for jumping loafers from a neighboring country the minimum wage in dollar terms exceeded ours .. And now the question is - what is really more important ??

Does Rosatom build 68% of the world's new nuclear power plants in a dozen countries? The rest of the world accounts for a pitiful 32%.

How do they all live, poor fellow ..))

The length of federal highways doubled: from 39 thousand km to more than 80 thousand.

And now, just to get to Moscow - you have to pay 1,5 mowers .. This does not include any taxes or excise taxes in gasoline .. Well .. if the length of the tracks grows another five times, and the fare to Moscow will be 10 thousand. rubles .. maybe someone will continue to consider this a plus of the development of our country ..))
Why Moscow? .. we have a checkpoint set up at the district .. old, Soviet district .. We rebuilt it .. and decided that they should pay everything .. Now, all the locals have to go not through it, but through the city ..

And finally .. all these examples, of course, have a place to be .. and on the one and on the other hand .. of course, something is being built !! And when one sees what is being built, but not enough, the other will always find something to cite as an example ..
Only here I, not without reason, wrote "Over the past 19 years, not a single grandiose object has been built in my sight (We will not remember the Crimean bridge, or the bridge on the Russian Island, for I am comparing my specific region) A couple of years ago, they built one interchange, now they are repairing another overpass, which was emergency for 20 years .. both of these events are noted by the population as something out of the ordinary .. That's all .. "

In other words, I am writing about what I really see ..

[Sarmat Sanych]

In short, again the old mossy whining, in which you yourself do not believe. What the hell is a "minimal wage in ukraine" if 5 million poor ukrogasters are working as laborers in Russia? Do not write about non-landowners at all, do not disgrace yourself, for us they are just a cheap labor resource, as for Matrasia the neighboring Mexicans. And in Russia in 20 years, about FIVE THOUSAND new production facilities and hundreds of infrastructure facilities have been built, some of which, by the way, are the largest in the world.
List of the largest projects of the Russian Federation: 1.https: //ruxpert.ru/Large_Russian_projects_ (Vladimir_Putin, _2000-2004)
https://ruxpert.ru/
2.https: //ruxpert.ru/Large_Russian_projects_ (Vladimir_Putin, _2004-2008)
3.https: //ruxpert.ru/Large_Russian_projects_ (Dmitry_Medvedev, _2008-2012)
4.https: //ruxpert.ru/Large_Russian_projects_ (Vladimir_Putin, _2012-2018)
5. Large_Russian_projects_ (Vladimir_Putin, _2018-2024)
6.https://youtu.be/GAZSb2qO9m0t7..htps://cont.ws/@S1601V3006/15
You can verify the availability of each of these objects personally by going and seeing with your own eyes. By the way, at 91m there were only 39 thousand km of federal highways throughout the RSFSR, and now in Russia 81 thousand km of federal highways. It must be understood that in 1917 the Bolsheviks already got the territory within present-day Russia with 10 thousand km of roads, and in 74 years, the Soviet government with all the gulags, labor camps and union-wide Komsomol constructions mastered only 29 thousand km of roads, and under Putin they built 19 Thousands of kilometers of roads, think about these gigantic figures. At 42m at the peak of the Union, all Soviet ports handled only 90 million tons of products per year, and now the ports of Russia alone ship 800 billion tons of products per year, just imagine the amount of construction work to expand the port infrastructure that has been commissioned for 1 years. All data shown is confirmed by the UN and the World Bank.

[Roman070280]

In short, again the old mossy whining, in which you yourself do not believe.

It’s unclear to whom you write your nonsense here .. You just said everything in the previous topic in Russian, and I’m not going to read this heresy anymore ..

[Sarmat Sanych]

Read again what I write, in case of misunderstanding - by syllables. I have facts confirmed by leading international sources, and you have a baby whining.

[Vadim237]

Climatic conditions are much better for them than for Russia and permafrost which occupies 60% as we do not have - construction is much simpler and much cheaper.

[Roman070280]

Well voooot .. Finally, a sensible argument .. The climate is to blame for everything ..
And then I got something higher here about perestroika .. about the fact that the population is more ..

[Victor N]

Not from a good life: the smart one will not go uphill .........

[ccsr]

Quote: Roman070280

And could do it more often, like our neighbors ..

So they have 10 times more population, which is why they need to build more of these facilities.
And we rejoice in our successes and what we do ourselves - we have something to be proud of.

[Roman070280]

We have a similar population with the States .. and the number of roads per kilometer is different at times .. or you can compare it with Germany .. You can compare what, where it turns out that the population is far from playing the first role ..

[ccsr]

Quote: Roman070280

We have a similar population with the States ..

They have more than 350 million people, so compared with ours 142 million they have 2,5 times more.

Quote: Roman070280

and the number of roads per kilometer is different at times ..

If Hitler fought in the United States and destroyed their industry, as in our territory, they would still have no more roads than us.

Quote: Roman070280

You can compare what, where it turns out that the population is far from playing the first role ..

Human resources now play almost the same role as financial capital (this is from Marxism) - the story with China showed how a backward country became the first country in the world.

[Roman070280]

They have more than 350 million people, so compared with ours 142 million they have 2,5 times more.

And in terms of man-kilometers, we still have 2,5 times less roads .. (I won’t repeat about Germany)

If Hitler fought in the United States and destroyed their industry, as in our territory, they would still have no more roads than us.

If they hadn’t destroyed Berlin, they would have built a death star now .. And you can also look at the destroyed Hiroshima ..
I understand that we are used to blaming everywhere on perestroika and on Yeltsin .. But blaming Hitler that we have fewer roads than we would like to ... this is already completely beyond the borders .. Let’s remember about the Mongol Tatars .. We’re from Hitler though if the space industry got it ...

Human resources now play almost the same role as financial capital (this is from Marxism) - the story with China showed how a backward country became the first country in the world.

The history of China showed that India has the same population, but it did not become either the first country in the world, nor the second, nor the tenth .. Like Brazil, whose population is twice as high as that of Japan ..

[ccsr]

Quote: Roman070280

And in terms of man-kilometers, we still have 2,5 times less roads .. (I won’t repeat about Germany)

It’s a pity that your school didn’t tell about the Great Patriotic War ....

Quote: Roman070280

I understand that they are used to blaming everywhere on perestroika and on Yeltsin.

Unlike you, I know very well what military spending is, and what they gave us in the post-war period, and therefore I am not surprised why we could not catch up with the United States - freedom is more valuable to us than material wealth.

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From Hitler, we at least got hold of the space industry ..

Lies - the theoretical development with us long before Tsiolkovsky began, when no one knew who Hitler was.

In 1881, Nikolai Ivanovich Kibalchich put forward the idea of ​​a rocket aircraft with a swinging combustion chamber to control the thrust vector. A few days before the execution, Kibalchich developed an original design for an aircraft capable of space travel. [6]

Quote: Roman070280

The history of China showed that India has the same population, but it did not become either the first country in the world, nor the second, nor the tenth ..

Lies - Western companies simply invested less in India because they were afraid of risks. By the way, India ranked third in the world in terms of GDP in 2018.

[Roman070280]

It’s a pity that your school didn’t tell about the Great Patriotic War ....

Once again - in terms of man-kilometers - we still have 2,5 times less roads .. (I won’t repeat about Germany)
At school I had to learn math at least a little ..

Unlike you, I know perfectly well what military spending is and what they gave us in the post-war period, and therefore I am not surprised why we could not catch up with the United States - freedom is more precious to us than material wealth.

Q.E.D..
We started with the fact that our population is not as much as necessary .. when they got the answer, they merged into the fact that we simply do not really need material wealth ..))

our theoretical development long before Tsiolkovsky began, when no one knew who Hitler was.

Well .. and boasted of a knowledge of history ..
Read at least "Rockets and People" B. Chertok .. Deputy and close associate of SP Korolyov .. You will learn a lot of interesting things for yourself .. Not about theories, but about the real state of affairs in practice ..
Although, it’s better not to read .. otherwise the patterns will break ..))

Western companies simply invested less in India, because were afraid of risks. By the way, India ranked third in the world in terms of GDP in 2018.

Your excuses are not interesting to me ..
It was you yourself who wrote that the reason is that the population is "10 times larger", so why did you suddenly remember about risks and trust .. So you will not get long enough to steal by top officials ..))

[ccsr]

Quote: Roman070280

(I won’t repeat about Germany)

Have you ever seen how Germany suffered compared to us after the war? There were severe destruction of some cities, but in general the country was not much affected.

Quote: Roman070280

Once again - in terms of man-kilometers - we still have 2,5 times less roads ..

You apparently did not understand that to build roads, you need finances and resources, human and material. Where did we get them from after 1945, if we lost 27 million, and the country, unlike the USA, lay in ruins?

Quote: Roman070280

We started with the fact that our population is not so much

Of course not so much - are you still in doubt?

Quote: Roman070280

merged into the fact that we just do not really need material wealth ..))

Only fools do not understand that we could not afford a prosperous life, because enormous funds were spent on military development and providing the army, because we well understood how much the military lag in World War II cost us.

Quote: Roman070280

Read at least "Rockets and People" B. Chertok .. Deputy and close associate of SP Korolyov .. You will learn a lot of interesting things for yourself .. Not about theories, but about the real state of affairs in practice ..

I read, so do not worry. But in addition to reading, I, unlike you, still know well what the military-industrial complex is and what means went into defense. But you don’t know for sure, that’s why you simply have wild ideas about the possibilities of our country.

Quote: Roman070280

Your excuses are not interesting to me ..

And your verbiage of joy does not give me joy - it immediately became clear to me that you are another accuser, and you will never be able to understand the essence of what is happening with our country at different periods of history.

[Roman070280]

Have you ever seen how Germany suffered compared to us after the war? There were severe destruction of some cities, but in general the country was not much affected.

In fairness, for us, too, by no means the whole country was bombed ..
Have you seen how Hiroshima suffered ?? The population of Japan know ??
I repeat - stop recalling the Mongol-Tatar invasions ..

You apparently did not understand that to build roads, you need finances and resources, human and material. Where did we get them from after 1945, if we lost 27 million, and the country, unlike the USA, lay in ruins?

So they argued themselves ..
Just after 45 years, 90% of everything that is now was created in our country (plus the same amount was still plundered) ..
We lost 27 million, "lay in ruins" .. but flew into space before the whole world .. including the United States .. And nothing prevented us from developing ..
do not disgrace yourself with such "arguments" ..

Only fools do not understand that we could not afford a prosperous life, because enormous funds were spent on military development and providing the army, because we well understood how much the military lag in World War II cost us.

Only fools at first say that everything depends on the number of population, and then other reasons merge that have nothing to do with the number of population ..

I read, so do not worry.

Why should I take a steam bath ... It’s you who distort the facts, you take a steam bath ..

I, unlike you, still know well what the military-industrial complex is and what means went into defense.

If you know, I’m happy for you .. but we’re talking not about the military-industrial complex and defense, but that the number of people decides everything .. (from your words)

that's why you just have wild ideas about the possibilities of our country.

"wild" ideas you have .. For it was you who stated "they have 10 times the population, that's why they need to build more of these objects."

And your verbiage of joy does not deliver me - I immediately realized that you are another denouncer, and you will never be able to understand the essence of what is happening with our country at different periods of history.

You still don't understand, despite the fact that I gave real examples and facts, unlike your "Hitler and Napoleon are to blame for everything."

[ccsr]

Quote: Roman070280

In fairness, for us, too, by no means the whole country was bombed ..

Just that part of the country where there was the main economic potential, and ended up in the area of ​​military operations and the flight of German aircraft.

Quote: Roman070280

Only fools first say that it all depends on the size of the population,

A Chinese example to help you, however, you seem to never agree why this country was chosen by the United States for super-profits.

Quote: Roman070280

And nothing prevented us from developing ..
do not disgrace yourself with such "arguments" ..

This is how they developed due to the fact that the whole people tightened their belts, which is why we could not catch up with the west in consumption - this is obvious. However, you are unlikely to have matured for such conclusions - you value everything too primitively.

Quote: Roman070280

For it was you who said "they have 10 times the population, that's why they need to build more of these facilities."

Naturally - the larger the population, the more infrastructure facilities are needed. Siberia is a traditionally backward region in our country because it lacks human resources, although Lomonosov wrote about the natural resources of this region, and the infrastructure there is worse developed than in the European part.

Quote: Roman070280

unlike your "Hitler and Napoleon are to blame for everything."

If they did military campaigns in the USA and not in Russia, then it is still unknown who would be in charge there now and how they would live.

[Roman070280]

Just that part of the country where there was the main economic potential, and ended up in the area of ​​military operations and the flight of German aircraft.

This part of the country at the time of Putin’s coming to power was rebuilt eleven times ..
Yes, and if someone does not know - the bulk of all production enterprises were exported safe and sound to the Urals .. So again - stop dumping the modern failures of Russia on Hitler ..))

A Chinese example to help you, however, you seem to never agree why this country was chosen by the United States for super-profits.

I'm not going at the moment what and why they chose the USA .. we have a conversation on a completely different topic ..
And in China we have already found out that India has the same population, but it did not become either the first country in the world, nor the second, nor the tenth ..
So we also figured out the population ..

This is how they developed due to the fact that the whole people tightened their belts, which is why we could not catch up with the west in consumption - this is obvious.

Why are you making excuses again ?? Yes, and so unsuccessfully ..
We just talked about China .. where, from your words, is the largest population, and therefore ... So ... do you really think that people in China did not tighten their belts ?? Or because there are so many of them - is everything easy for them ??

However, you are unlikely to have matured for such conclusions - you value everything too primitively.

Yeah, how do you navigate the topic - this is for me to learn and learn ..))

A brief set of the above points:
A lot of Chinese - because they have the advantage ..
There are as many Indians - but this does not count ..
We have no less roads - because the war was ..
In Europe or Japan there was a war - but that doesn’t count ..
It’s hard for us now - because in the year 45 we lost 27 million ..
In the 50-60s, we developed at the maximum pace, looking at the loss of population - but this does not count .. (because the belts tightened)
China tightened its belts worse than everyone else, despite its huge population - but this does not count ..
For someone just likes to boil that the population still decides everything ..))

If they did military campaigns in the USA and not in Russia, then it is still unknown who would be in charge there now and how they would live.

I’ll tell you a little secret for a connoisseur of history - when Napoleon made military campaigns in Russia - the United States was only created as a state ..

Genghis Khan didn’t attack them, yes .. here I agree with you .. that’s probably why they live better now ..))

[ccsr]

Quote: Roman070280

So again - stop blaming modern failures of Russia on Hitler ..))

I don’t dump them - I just really appreciate why in the XNUMXth century we lagged behind the West, and why we are still forced to make enormous expenditures on the country's defense.

Quote: Roman070280

And in China we have already found out that India has the same population, but it did not become either the first country in the world, nor the second, nor the tenth ..

Nonsense is complete - the Indian population was more backward, but the most important thing in China was the CCP, which could just manage such a huge country, and the population was larger, which is why the Americans chose them.

Quote: Roman070280

Why are you making excuses again ??

In front of you? You are too self-confident about the value of your opinion to me.

Quote: Roman070280

A brief set of the above points:
A lot of Chinese - because they have the advantage ..
There are as many Indians - but this does not count ..

Lies, because in 1990, according to statistics, the difference was almost 300 million people:
China 1 135 185
India 839 000

Quote: Roman070280

We have no less roads - because the war was ..

Not only for this - we have more territory, and climatic conditions are worse, which also affects the construction of roads and their number.

Quote: Roman070280

In Europe or Japan there was a war - but that doesn’t count ..

They have tiny territories where it’s much easier to build roads, if only because of the distance.

Quote: Roman070280

It’s hard for us now - because in the year 45 we lost 27 million ..

It is very difficult, because it was the color of the nation, and the losses of those years still affect demography.

Quote: Roman070280

In the 50-60s, we developed at the maximum pace, looking at the loss of population - but this does not count .. (because the belts tightened)

Yes, then there were strict laws that did not allow parasites, and in addition, there was a six-day work week, and salaries were not an example of what they were in the eighties. Moreover, then even a tax on childlessness existed - you have not heard of this, but I paid it.

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China tightened its belts worse than everyone else, despite its huge population - but this does not count ..

So they do not bother with human rights ideas, and calmly destroy any manifestation of discontent. And we still have human rights activists rushing around with the Novocherkassk events, but you don’t know what happened there, that's why you don’t understand that we have a different mentality.

Quote: Roman070280

I’ll tell you a little secret for a connoisseur of history - when Napoleon made military campaigns in Russia - the United States was only created as a state ..

Do not be stupid so primitive - the question was about purely comparative consequences, and not about a real possibility to land on the US coast, which even we still cannot do.

[Roman070280]

I don’t dump them - I just really appreciate why in the XNUMXth century we lagged behind the West, and why we are still forced to make enormous expenditures on the country's defense.

Parallel reality it is so ..))

Nonsense is complete - the Indian population was more backward, but the most important thing in China was the CCP, which could just manage such a huge country, and the population was larger, which is why the Americans chose them.

Again, some excuses .. "The CCP chose the more old-fashioned" ..
India has the same population, but it has not become the first country in the world, nor the second, nor the tenth - it is a fact .. You did not write that the reason lies in the CCP or the Americans .. You wrote that the reason is in human resources !! At the expense of the CCP, I could not argue .. So .. do not make excuses ..))

They have tiny territories where it’s much easier to build roads, if only because of the distance.

Well .. again, they came to the conclusion that the population can be anything, but there are no less real reasons for this ..

It is very difficult, because it was the color of the nation, and the losses of those years still affect demography.

Even having lost the color of the nation, we have developed at the fastest pace in our history ..
The next conclusion is not the number of people !!

Yes, then there were strict laws that did not allow parasites, and in addition, there was a six-day work week, and salaries were not an example of what they were in the eighties. Moreover, then even a tax on childlessness existed - you have not heard of this, but I paid it.

I completely agree with what was said !! And, as we see, the matter is again not in the number of population ..

So they do not bother with human rights ideas, and calmly destroy any manifestation of discontent. And we still have human rights activists rushing around with the Novocherkassk events, but you don’t know what happened there, that's why you don’t understand that we have a different mentality.

I don’t know about any Novocherkassk events .. apparently because no one is rushing with them .. And how all sorts of protests are being suppressed .. I think that we are lagging behind China ..
Well, of course - here again the number of people does not play any role, as we see ..

Do not be stupid so primitive - the question was about purely comparative consequences, and not about a real possibility to land on the US coast, which even we still cannot do.

Primitivism is to blame everything on the events of ten years ago ..
I brought a concrete fact of how a certain state was just forming at the moment when Napoleon and I fought .. and therefore, I didn’t get any advantages from the fact that I didn’t undergo a war with Napolen .. This is about purely comparative consequences. .))

[ccsr]

Quote: Roman070280

Even having lost the color of the nation, we have developed at the fastest pace in our history ..

And no one denies this. Only for some reason you are still surprised that it was at the expense of our people, which was limited in obtaining material wealth and undeveloped infrastructure, which the western man in the street had.

Quote: Roman070280

I completely agree with what was said !! And, as we see, the matter is again not in the number of population ..

It is in the number of population, and the activities of the CCP, which Dostoevsky and the Russian soul do not understand, and therefore destroying their compatriots, they do not bother much.

Quote: Roman070280

I don’t know about any Novocherkassk events ..

I realized that you are a victim of the exam.

Quote: Roman070280

Primitivism is to blame everything on the events of ten years ago ..

No primitivism is an ignorance of the history of your people, their problems and vision of the world, which you proved by reporting that you did not even know what happened in Novocherkassk.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

What are you proud of? Here, change your passport to Chinese - and be proud.

[Roman070280]

Do not choke on saliva ..))

[Karen]

Roman, thanks for the detailed voice acting on the topic ... Clearly ...

[Azazelo]

PVV everywhere in time .... handsome !!!!

[Piramidon]

Quote: Azazelo

PVV manages everywhere

Who is this?

[eagle owl]

This is which Trump appointed to the Phasington regional committee President of the world. It will win elections in Britain, it will rule Ukraine - everything that is happening in Ukraine - as you know - Putin did it all)))

[Piramidon]

Quote: Uhu

This is which Trump appointed to the Phasington regional committee President of the world. It will win elections in Britain, it will rule Ukraine - everything that is happening in Ukraine - as you know - Putin did it all)))

Even full name the president is too lazy to type on the clave, and there too. Patriots are fake.

[Vadim237]

Plekhanov Victor Vitalievich.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Vadim237

Plekhanov Victor Vitalievich.

Maybe even Peremogin Everywhere Voznikaevich.

[Spider]

Some individuals of liberal orientation and non-brothers are already blaming the GDP for violating the law on the rules for staying rolling stock inside the control cabin.
All! The guarantor scored a bolt on the constitution and the rule of law :)

[AU Ivanov.]

Well, if the president can fly in the cockpit of a fighter, then ride in the cockpit of a rail bus and even more so.

[MoJloT]

they are already blaming the GDP for violating the law on the rules for finding rolling stock inside the control cabin.

He also was without a ticket.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Let's tell him for this: Well, hare, lit up!

[Mountain shooter]

Oh, great it! Started, and finished, on schedule! Wow ...

[Lord of the Sith]

Well, good luck! Now it will become much easier to get to the Crimea. People gush))

[210ox]

Look here. It is easier to get from Krasnodar to Sochi by "Lastochka". Than pushing in a traffic jam in Goryachy Klyuch or on the coast. Probably, they will make a train to Crimea from the Kuban. Maybe there will be fewer people on cars ... And then the darkness for one hour in traffic jams ... Dreams.

[Lord of the Sith]

Last year we traveled from Krasnodar to Crimea. We left at 10 nights, arrived at 3, on the South Coast))
On the Crimean bridge to go a pleasure, not like on a ferry))

And they will definitely do from the Kuban to Crimea, and, first of all, along with Moscow and St. Petersburg))

[parusnik]

In connection with the construction of the bridge and its commissioning, numerous agency sea companies serving the Kerch ferry crossing began to close ... Only old-timers will survive ... And from this small fry, only debts to Rosmorport remain ... But there was a time from 2014 to 2018 fattened up ... And the most interesting thing, they were ardent opponents of the construction of the bridge, not in public, of course ... So they were "For" ... But for the eyes, why not grind ...

[New Year day]

Quote: parusnik

were ardent opponents of the construction of the bridge

money, just money! And how much they took for travel out of turn with a car! Special comrades walked along the lines. Overnight at the port, waiting for the ferry - I will not forget

[cniza]

According to the Russian president, in 2020, approximately 13 million tons of cargo will be transported across the bridge and at least 14 million people will pass.

This is the most important thing.

[Vladimir_2U]

Even by Soviet standards - this is an achievement, to all involved - my congratulations!

[Mihail80]

But what is it that you don’t go where the good news appears, there are everywhere (I can’t pick up a printed word), who doesn’t like everything. And that is not okay and the other is not okay.
The trolls divorced.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Mihail80

The trolls divorced.

Yes, a demon with them, trolls - they are at work hellish. There are also enough just-minded compatriots, those who, driven by some left-wing speculation, begin to bear such a blizzard with full confidence ... With these, no enemies are needed - worse than any other adversary, they will spoil and destroy everything.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Mihail80

there are everywhere (I can’t pick a printed word), who doesn’t like everything

They have such a profession. Otherwise, they will be removed from allowance.
ps. Or maybe their wife (husband) is cheating on them and they suspect us all, so they shit everyone.

[Ross xnumx]

The president opened the railway traffic on the Crimean bridge

This is a significant and long-awaited event by all Russians (and not only) event ...
Special thanks to the builders whose hands have been creating this whole miracle for the whole time!
I am glad that Crimea is getting closer and closer to the "mainland".

[New Year day]

Quote: ROSS 42

I am glad that Crimea is getting closer and closer to the "mainland".

it remains only the price of the ticket to lead to acceptable and then everything is fine.

[Igoresha]

the price is yes, my Belgorod acquaintances claim that by plane in the Russian Federation is cheaper than in a compartment

[New Year day]

Quote: Igoresha

by plane in the Russian Federation

By plane I flew from Moscow for 3 thousand, by train, the lower shelf is more than 5 thousand, the upper is 3 400

[Igoresha]

which should be proved ... as an alternative - a bus, relatives from the LPR needed Rostov Moscow, a plane 5000 departure from Rostov, a bus 2500 rubles. from Lugansk

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Silvestr

it remains only the price of the ticket to lead to acceptable and then everything is fine.

Sylvester, welcome! My pension is 29 - enough to collect. The military enlistment office there offered permits at preferential prices ... In short, it would be health and desire ...

[New Year day]

Quote: ROSS 42

The military registration and enlistment office there offered permits

Greetings. My brother-in-law through the military enlistment office annually gets a ticket to the Crimea, and they also pay for the plane. Satisfied

[Ross xnumx]

Honestly, I do not have the opportunity to leave. While there are household and household chores. It’ll work out, maybe I’ll get together. If, in fact, five days is enough for me alone ... And if a specific treatment, then there is its own trouble ...

[Runoway]

It’s strange that it’s not paid Well, maybe a little later, as heroically as Moscow-Peter for 2000tr / passage

[bk316]

2000tr

Expensive? Install transponder ...
By the way, when the first section was launched, they squealed that the most expensive payer was in Europe.
Well, where in France or Spain find 700 km. payer for 30 euros?

[New Year day]

Quote: bk316

Install transponder ...

Transponder on M-4 gives a discount of 300 rubles, but the speed of passing cash registers is good

[bk316]

M-4 transponder gives a discount of 300 rubles

And on the M-11 under 500, and of course the speed.
And it looks like the equipment has changed began to beat 30 meters, generally quickly turns out.

[New Year day]

Quote: bk316

generally fast

Wow! The main thing is that a fare free rider does not slip in front of you

[ccsr]

Quote: Silvestr

Wow! The main thing is that a fare free rider does not slip in front of you

So you don’t have to drive close to someone close to the entrance, but you need to wait until the barrier opens in front of the rider. And for this, a lot of mind is not necessary - for two or three meters to slow down or stop at the point of charging. It’s more dangerous when someone is attached to you - this rogue can drive into the ass.

[Runoway]

Where in France and Spain there is a minimum wage of 11200 r and so much wealth in the form of oil gas and other minerals, plus cheap labor ......... Or we still have black caviar asphalt

There are presidents of France, the USA and Russia.
Macron:
- We have a salary of 8000 euros per month, taxes, that is, they get 7500 euros on hand. For accommodation you need 3000 euros. Where the rest 4500 do, hell knows! And everyone is unhappy ...
Trump:
- We have a salary of $ 10000 per month, taxes, that is, they get $ 8500 on hand. You need 4000 to stay. Where the rest 4500 do, hell knows! And also dissatisfied ...
Putin:
- We have a salary of 8000 rubles a month, taxes, that is, they get 6500 rubles on hand. It takes 15000 to live. Where the rest of the 8500 are, hell knows! And happy, like, everyone .........

[bk316]

Where in France and Spain the minimum wage in 11200r and so much wealth in the form of oil gas and other minerals, plus cheap labor .........

Are you talking about production costs?
So name at least one product where, under capitalism, the price is set depending on the cost. Demand / offer - learn materiel my friend.

[Runoway]

This is me about the purchasing power of the population and the possibility of the state (Everything is in the dreams of the public domain, there is a sin)
Let me give an example, in my city they made a paid crossing through the railway, with a promise to make it free after three years, as soon as the cost was recaptured, there was not enough budget.
So, more than 7 years have passed, and it never became more expensive, moreover, the alternative * obligatory * free passage was initially blocked by reinforced concrete blocks so that no one would drive past the checkout

capitalism

in Russian current kings, and in everything

[bk316]

This is me about the purchasing power of the population

Purchasing
Now explain.
M-11, M-4 and so on. commercial project. Roads in concession if I remember correctly for 30 years. The concessionaire does not give a damn about someone's promises to someone. His goal is to maximize his profit. It takes into account both inflation and credit interest and of course purchasing power population and by the way the load on the roadway. As a result, he sets the price, and if the purchasing power were not enough for optimal loading of the road, the price would be less. Of course, in the case of a monopoly, this does not work, but NO ONE WAS OVERLAPING THE OLD LENINGRAD, moreover, it was repaired and reconstructed in places.
So see?

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

You are jealous. The Spaniards have after taxes - 200-400 euros. The Americans have 200-400 dollars. But in the USA at least the prices are lower. 3 dollars a gallon of gasoline. The Spaniards - one and a half euros a liter.

[bk316]

You are jealous. The Spaniards have after taxes - 200-400 euros.

So a man, I guess I’ve never been to Spain, and if I was so, I spent all the time on the beach As the Spaniards really live poorly, I can talk for a long time ... And not only the peasants, but also the intelligentsia. Actually why ours are so eager to buy property in Spain - the country is poor.

[Servisinzhener]

2000 thousand rubles for which category of vehicles?
Judging by the tariff schedule for my car, the cost without a transponder will be a maximum of 1370 if you go during the day on the weekend. And with the transponder that I have 844.
https://avtodor-tr.ru/ru/platnye-uchastki/tarify-na-proezd-m-11/
Even if you add a payer here from 15 to 58 kilometers - 500 rubles, then the maximum will be 1870. But really 1344.

[bk316]

2000 thousand rubles for which category of vehicles?

This is from news sites, but he himself never traveled on this paycheck, and probably he has never been to the Russian Federation either. The topic, as it were, is about a bridge, probably from 404

[Alien From]

Good luck to trains and citizens !!!!!

[Alexga]

Congratulations, Russia!

[loki565]

Great news, very happy with the deadline, as planned.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

credit topic, plusar, and this is Tuzla 2008, from the personal archive

[Bomb]

We love such chips. Thank you for the bridge. Twice already happened to ride. In the neighboring region, a bridge over a river was repaired. About 150m of canvas, 4 lanes. The governor got behind the wheel of a Kamaz truck with sand and covered a "long" journey with fanfare and applause. A month later, the contractor was forced to re-lay the asphalt. They arranged a holiday for the townspeople out of what a priori should be in proper condition. Disgracers ...

[Sitearvi]

This is very good, I congratulate everyone, now there remains a price to lower in the Crimea and everyone to rest, everything in the Crimea.

[Zampolit-m]

Well, at least rejoice a little for Russia! And then they spend around ..

[monster]

With a rag on a Svidomo erysipelas KRYATY !!!

[7,62x54]

A worker who accidentally finds himself in a carriage next to V.V. The next military ranks were awarded.

[Mentat]

Quote: Svarog

The good news is that the Crimean bridge is fully operational. But the president already opened the bridge, then drove to Kamaz, now the railway connection has opened .. he has nothing to do, how to open the same thing several times? I have never heard that leaders of major world powers have bridges, roads open .. cheap PR.

What did you hear to write here, besides the instructions of the curators?

Hold, enlighten, never heard:

 Trump drives patriotic speech at the opening of Louis Vuitton's fashion handbag production

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-opening-louis-vuitton-workshop-rochambeau-alvarado-tx/

"Today, we continue the extraordinary revival of American manufacturing, and we proudly celebrate the opening of the brand-new Louis Vuitton."

 Margaret Thatcher broadcasts at the wonderful opening of the Nissan plant

https://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/106470

 Trump walked around Mac factory for Apple

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/20/us/politics/trump-texas-apple-factory.html

 Trump attends Foxconn Factory Opening Celebrations

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/06/trump-milwaukee-celebrate-factory-opening-180629131034762.html

 President Eduardo from Argentina attends the opening ceremony of a milk factory

https://www.arla.com/company/news-and-press/2002/pressrelease/argentina-s-president-to-open-new-arla-foods-factory-760639/

Enough or more to throw?

[7,62x54]

Your answer is not for me, but it was interesting. Thanks. It can be seen that Trump consistently promotes the topic: "Made in USA", and not just the transportation of oil and gas.

[Terenin]

Attention was drawn to the fact that in the cab of the locomotive there was no head of Russian Railways.

To be honest, and with a hand on my heart or much lower , I did not pay any attention to this fact . Vaascha!
Congratulations to the builders!

[bk316]

And he met on the platform ..

[Terenin]

Quote: bk316

And he met on the platform ..

Oh, and the guy "did not miss", he calculated that if he reached the GDP (without incident), he would congratulate him, but if not ... then I would have time to reach Chongar
Py.Sy. In Chongar - a checkpoint between Ukraine and Crimea

[Nuclear_winter]

Just leave it here

[rocket757]

It should be recognized, admitted that all the same it is spinning!
Did it, another thing will be done ...
This is a joyful event, of course.

[MoJloT]

It remains only to launch it on a rocket.

With this, is it not so rosy with us, or did you decide to send it one way from the knees?

[Vadim237]

Go with your Bandera and neo-Nazis to be friends yourself - Ukraine is now CEE Europe, the EU is fully joining. Russia with her is not on the way.

[Igor Borisov_2]

Quote: parusnik

In connection with the construction of the bridge and its commissioning, numerous agency sea companies serving the Kerch ferry crossing began to close ... Only old-timers will survive ... And from this small fry, only debts to Rosmorport remain ... But there was a time from 2014 to 2018 fattened up ... And the most interesting thing, they were ardent opponents of the construction of the bridge, not in public, of course ... So they were "For" ... But for the eyes, why not grind ...

Something similar happened in Denmark when they built bridges across the Great Belt and Sund straits. And the cries of the ferrymen were plentiful. And now the Swedes go to Denmark for the weekend - they say beer is cheaper there ...

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

They built the bridge - and covered the business on oil platforms for joint Vyartsilya and St. Petersburg shipbuilding. Platforms did not pass under the bridge to the Great Belt.

[Piramidon]

The president opened the railway traffic on the Crimean bridge

A bit of history here
[media = http: //tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/20191223535-muyyi.html/player/]

[Paul Siebert]

Congratulations!
Four-year construction has come to an end.
Since last year, we had one Crimean bridge - a road bridge.
And now the railway has been added to it!
Builders go home.
Thanks guys!

[Adimius38]

it is possible to have a different attitude towards the president, and I myself did not vote for him, but the work in the Crimean direction has been done enormous.

[Aliken]

Well done, the Russians, the project is closed, now I wish for other undertakings, too, to complete the visual result.

[monster]

Barimore, what kind of flashes and roar in the swamp, does the swamp gas explode? No sir. That’s why the Svidomo dupes are blazing and cracking, sir.

[Zaurbek]

And he drove into my village ...

[depressant]

The importance of the Crimean bridge also lies in the fact that in the consciousness of the whole world it finally consolidates the idea that Crimea belongs to the Russian Federation. This is our territory, so that enemies do not speak there. Therefore, I share the joy of my colleagues regarding the opening of a railway link between the mainland of our country and the peninsula, historically and without any doubt belonging to Russia.

[eagle owl]

Fresh news:

[Dzafdet]

Now Ukraine will protest about illegal border crossing. Still, the problem of water supply to the Crimea would be solved and you can safely send the country 404 forest.

[potap6509]

Drive it 2 times, in a car, chic.

[evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru]

Russia needs OWN good news. Russia deserves some decent news. The country is tired of stupid serials about bandits, whores, rich, "but very kind" ... From advertising for cleaning toilet bowls, for the treatment of constipation and bloating. And there is no one YET to stop all this devilry

[Laksamana besar]

Congratulations to you my Russia!

[sabotage]

I don’t give a damn. And on the Crimea, and on it. Is this definitely Military Review?

[BISMARCK94]

Attention was drawn to the fact that in the cab of the locomotive there was no head of Russian Railways

This is the norm, these "bosses" love all kinds of selectors, meetings, to scratch with languages ​​in short