US Air Force resumes purchase of F-15 fighter jets

The US Air Force resumes the purchase of F-15 fighters. The aircraft will be purchased in a new modernized configuration - the F-15EX Advanced Eagle, which is being developed by the American aircraft manufacturer Boeing.

The U.S. Air Force intends to acquire 2020 F-8EX Advanced Eagle fighters in 15, with plans previously announced for the acquisition of up to 200 aircraft. It is specified that the F-15 is not purchased to replace the F-35A, but to replace the already obsolete fleet of F-15Cs in service. In the future, it is planned to purchase 18-24 fighters annually.

The aircraft will be delivered in two versions - a single F-15CX and a double F-15EX. It is planned that Boeing will supply the Air Force in 2020 with two prototypes of the F-15EX. Next, the concern will have to collect and transfer to the military six serial fighters of this type.

Currently, the U.S. Air Force is armed with three types of F-15 fighter jets: the F-15C air superiority fighter with a reinforced glider design, the F-15D two-seat combat training aircraft and the F-15E Strike Eagle two-seat fighter. Recent purchases of the F-15 were made by the US Air Force in 2001. Then the troops were delivered five new Strike Eagle.

F-15E is capable of speeds up to three thousand kilometers per hour. Its combat radius is about 1,3 thousand kilometers. Strike Eagle is armed with a 20 mm aviation six-barrel gun M61A1 Vulcan with ammunition for 500 rounds, and is also equipped with underwing and ventral pylons for suspension of various missile and bomb weapons with a total mass of 10,4 tons.

Comments

[Fedorov]

F-15E is capable of speeds up to three thousand kilometers per hour.

This is why such a fright? In addition to Migga -25-31, no fighter in the world is capable of.

[figwam]

Quote: Fedorov

This is why such a fright?

That's right, it flies at 2600 km / h, and not 3000 km / h

[TermNachTer]

However, 2600 is not nearly 3 km / h. It was more correct to say about 000 km / h. And it is very interesting to hear the opinion of mattress makers about F - 2500 and F - 22. How so? You are buying a car developed from the 35s of the last century, and the newest super - duper airplanes "sideways"? Moreover, if you believe the mattress sources, the 70th is even more expensive than the F - 15.

[Oleg83]

Quote: TermNachTER

However, 2600 is not nearly 3 km / h. It was more correct to say about 000 km / h. And it is very interesting to hear the opinion of mattress makers about F - 2500 and F - 22. How so? You are buying a car developed from the 35s of the last century, and the newest super - duper airplanes "sideways"? Moreover, if you believe the mattress sources, the 70th is even more expensive than the F - 15.

F15 and F35 are different classes of aircraft. They bought F15 again because they did not build 700 F22 at the time

[TermNachTer]

And what prevents buying the latest super airplanes now, and not the junk of the 70s of development? Moreover, mattresses are positioning the F - 35 precisely as a strike aircraft and the new Eagle modification, also in the strike version, i.e. by appointment they are the same.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: TermNachTER

And what prevents buying the latest super airplanes now, and not the junk of the 70s of development? Moreover, mattresses are positioning the F - 35 precisely as a strike aircraft and the new Eagle modification, also in the strike version, i.e. by appointment they are the same.

Re-launching the F-22 is very expensive. A F-15 is still being produced. True, calling the F-15 of the latest models the development of the 70s is not correct. This is the same as what is called the Su-35 development of the 70s.

[TermNachTer]

The machine was designed and built in the 70s of the last century. The fact that modern engines, electronics and avionics have stuck there a bit does not make it a 2020 machine. By the way, I personally do not attribute the Su - 35 to the 5th generation cars. In the same way I consider that all these 4 +, 4 ++, 4 +++. This is all nonsense. There are cars of the 4th and 5th generations without pluses and minuses.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Alas, this only speaks of a penchant for a black-and-white assessment of reality. The newest F-15 is two heads taller than the F-14A, but both of them are 4th generation heavy fighters.
In fact, in the same F-15 there was already nothing left of the car of the 70th year. EMNIP even a glider. Just like in the Su-35 there is nothing from the ancestor of the Su-27

[Oleg83]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: TermNachTER

And what prevents buying the latest super airplanes now, and not the junk of the 70s of development? Moreover, mattresses are positioning the F - 35 precisely as a strike aircraft and the new Eagle modification, also in the strike version, i.e. by appointment they are the same.

Re-launching the F-22 is very expensive. A F-15 is still being produced. True, calling the F-15 of the latest models the development of the 70s is not correct. This is the same as what is called the Su-35 development of the 70s.

And it makes sense to use F22 as an interceptor (as it is now in Alaska, Hawaii, Virginia and Florida), if you can use F15 for these purposes

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: oleg83

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: TermNachTER

And what prevents buying the latest super airplanes now, and not the junk of the 70s of development? Moreover, mattresses are positioning the F - 35 precisely as a strike aircraft and the new Eagle modification, also in the strike version, i.e. by appointment they are the same.

Re-launching the F-22 is very expensive. A F-15 is still being produced. True, calling the F-15 of the latest models the development of the 70s is not correct. This is the same as what is called the Su-35 development of the 70s.

And it makes sense to use F22 as an interceptor (as it is now in Alaska, Hawaii, Virginia and Florida), if you can use F15 for these purposes

Something like pilots and planes being used.

[TermNachTer]

I like the wording - "at least somehow". It's so cool, each at least "somehow" for a quarter of a lard per piece.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: TermNachTER

I like the wording - "at least somehow". It's so cool, each at least "somehow" for a quarter of a lard per piece.

Well, what do you think will be used by the Su-57 if the Russian Federation does not conduct b / d?

[TermNachTer]

Taki I think, for Russians this tsyatska will be cheaper.

[maden.usmanow]

F15 is not old, new aircraft will be released. It’s just unusual for you, after the Soviet nomenclature of weapons, when two almost identical samples are called differently.
If the Americans conditionally released Sushki, they would have neither Su 30, Su 34, nor Su35.
Americans would make one Su 27, and just add the desired letter index, after the main model.

[TermNachTer]

I was not talking about old aircraft, but about old developments. A plane that was developed 60 years ago cannot be modern.

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: TermNachTER

A plane that was developed 60 years ago cannot be modern.

And what has happened since then? Radar? Engines? Avionics? A weapon? All this on the F-15EX is new. Aerodynamically, it is stable and without root sag - unlike other 4th generation fighters, but in the 70s no one complained about it, what has changed? Traction vector driven? Americans believe that the cost of it does not pay off. Stealth - yes, drain here. But on Topwar, stealth is considered useless.

[TermNachTer]

Well, his engines are newer than in the 70s, the radar is also better. Smeared it with some snot - such as stealth. But so excuse the price - 100 lyam apiece, when they want 35 for F - 85, somehow not divine.

[Good_Anonymous]

They plan to reduce the cost to $ 80M - we will see what happens. The price of F-35 was reduced.

[TermNachTer]

Usually, their price moves only upward. Although, options are possible. The price for the F - 35 has been reduced, but not for everyone. And some already "include the back", because "penguins" are now in great doubt, for such money.

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: TermNachTER

The price of F - 35 was reduced but not for everyone.

For USAF, the price of the F-35 was lowered. There is no reason to think that for the same USAF will not reduce the price of the F-15EX.

Quote: TermNachTER

And some already "turn on the back"

I don't know who "turns on the back", but someone turns on the "front". The factories are busy for years to come.

[Stalllker]

Su 34 is a completely different plane, a different layout

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Su-27, Su-30 and Su-35 are three completely different aircraft that differ in everything from engines and critical systems to the design of the airframe.

[Lozovik]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

Su-27, Su-30 and Su-35 are three completely different aircraft that differ in everything from engines and critical systems to the design of the airframe.

What is it about "critical systems" and airframe design that are different? You can start with engines 99, 96 and 117.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Lozovik

What is it about "critical systems" and airframe design that are different?

As I said - that's all.

Quote: Lozovik

You can start with engines 99, 96 and 117.

Su-27 - Al31F. Su-30-Al-31FP, the fundamental difference from the previous one is the controlled thrust vector, moreover, it is all-perspective. Even the F-22 did not possess this advantage. Su-35 - Al-41F1S. Plasma ignition, digital ACS (which was not the case with previous models), the resource is increased fourfold compared to Al31F, the main components of the engine, such as combustion chambers, compressors, are of a new design.

[Lozovik]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

As I said - that's all.

This is not an answer. What are the "essential systems"? What body elements are different?

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

Plasma ignition

The ACS is launched using semiconductor candles, and the FCC fire path from the ACS.

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

digital control system

What is another ACS? If we are talking about the engine control system, then it is electro-hydromechanical.

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

the resource is increased fourfold compared with Al31F

And what is the AL-31F's resource?

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

The main components of the engine, such as combustion chambers, compressors, are of a new design.

What is the design novelty? In the manufacturing method? Applicable materials?

[Alan_McCormack]

I don't know, maybe the price? still 146 lyams is too much even for the states

[Boris Chernikov]

and the combat radius is not 1 300, but 1 270 and then with the PTB

[WILL]

Firefly, the maximum speed (depending on height) of the eagle is F 15 EX, up to 2.5 MAX, i.e. up to ~ 2650 km / h.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: ANIMAL

Eagle F 15 EX, up to 2.5 MAX

Max 1 ~ 330 m / s ~ 1200 km / h (depending on the conditions in which the air is)

Recall yourself or agree to:

F-15E is capable of speeds up to three thousand kilometers per hour.

Actually, in the article I saw that the American F-22 and F-35 are a miserable likeness left hand F-15 ... Or isn’t it?
The hyped, vaunted latest technology and ... "Back to the Future" - film 4 ...

[WILL]

ROSS 42. The speed of sound at an altitude of 11 thousand meters is ~ 295 m / s, ie ~ 1062 km / h. 2.5 MAX yourself recount, or agree to 2650 km / h ???

[Ross xnumx]

Consider that I was mistaken ... And pass it on to those seven connoisseurs who are ready to throw shit in any inaccuracy ... Happiness to you on the couch and public recognition ...

[WILL]

Quote: ROSS 42

Consider that I was mistaken ... And pass it on to those seven connoisseurs who are ready to throw shit in any inaccuracy ... Happiness to you on the couch and public recognition ...

ROSS 42. Opachki, offended in any way? Well, Duck, keep your mentor tone deep in yourself! At the same time, send greetings to those TWO to your admirers who have messed Me up, here it’s for sure neither mind nor imagination and lack of brains! I’m even silent about elementary knowledge of mathematics! At the same time - answer yourself the question of who in this case and what is throwing on the fan, I don’t need to answer! Well, about the sofa - I don’t even want to comment, I just laugh ...
Generally - and you do not get sick ...

[V.I.P.]

Well, ours are going to buy a few dozen su-57s. And they will buy su 35, 30, 34 and convert the su-27 into cm3 which can be. This is where, back to the future?)) The point is to rivet such expensive aircraft, when all the opponents will fly on a su-27. I do not think that the Chinese will do their J-20, 31 in the thousands ....

[SovAr238A]

Quote: ANIMAL

Firefly, the maximum speed (depending on height) of the eagle is F 15 EX, up to 2.5 MAX, i.e. up to ~ 2650 km / h.

no slag.
in fact, the F-15 with the new 229 engines accelerates even slightly above 3000 km / h when the system for injecting the alcohol-water mixture into the turbine is turned on to cool the air in the turbine. This gives a speed increase.

[bayard]

Passport speed of the F-15 - 2650 km \ h. , but it is without weapons and with incomplete tanks, at an altitude of 11 - 12 km. The glider simply does not allow him great speed - it is necessary to cool the leading edges.
Real observations of F-15 flights (from Primorye) have never been recorded even 2000 km / h. While our MiG-25 regularly \ periodically flew at 2,5M (altitude 20 m.).
Historically, Americans ALWAYS overestimated the passport data of their aircraft, entering data from specially prepared, lightweight records (in climb) - without radar, other heavy standard equipment, a heavy nose fairing ... But even in this form of three thousand, he NEVER developed 2650 - maximum record for type.

As an example of American fraud, we can recall the passport data they claimed for the F-111. Remember how much it was stated there ?! The same 2650 km \ h as the F-15 !!!
With his (F-111) engines !!!
But they stated and insisted on them ... but in reality there was about 2000 km \ h in lightweight form.

And F-15 and with engines from F-22, such speed is not up to the task - a thermal barrier, glider restrictions. Forced cooling is not provided there, and it makes no sense.
Something like this .

[TermNachTer]

Yeah, and the Jews were the first to shake their face against the battery, when, during the next war with the Arabs, it turned out that the vaunted - over-praised F - 16 has the overclocking characteristics specified in the operating instructions, only with incomplete refueling and half set on the suspension. The mattress makers refused for a long time, but then everyone agreed that yes, "the rottenness came out." On the other hand, if the MiG - 23 shifted the planes to maximum sweep and "cut in" the afterburner, then the F - 15 did not chase after it - "bad business."

[SovAr238A]

Quote: bayard

And F-15 and with engines from F-22, such speed is not up to the task - a thermal barrier, glider restrictions. Forced cooling is not provided there, and it makes no sense.
Something like this .

provided for

[Lord of the Sith]

But what about the best, having no analogues in the world of fu-35?))
Why is this concerned about the production of a 70s jet?)

[Pessimist22]

Invisible F 35

[Lord of the Sith]

I apologize, invisible fu-35, which have no analogues in the world

[Levius EN]

Campaign after the first inclusion of engines, they become completely invisible.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

I apologize, invisible fu-35, which have no analogues in the world

Quote: Levius RU

Camping trip after turning engines on for the first time, they become completely invisible.

I would say after the hit of the first "VV" missile or a salvo of a Russian air defense installation (name by choice)

[figwam]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

But what about the best, having no analogues in the world of fu-35?))

It seems that their era ended before they began.

[Sergey39]

"It is clarified that the F-15 is being purchased not to replace the F-35A, but to replace the already obsolete fleet of the F-15C in service."
And F35 was to replace what? So all the same, to replace the F35.

[Oleg83]

Quote: Sergey39

"It is clarified that the F-15 is being purchased not to replace the F-35A, but to replace the already obsolete fleet of the F-15C in service."
And F35 was to replace what? So all the same, to replace the F35.

F35A replaces F16 in the Air Force, F35B replaces the AV-8B Harrier II in the ILC
F35 and F15 different classes of aircraft

[Sergey39]

The F-35 family will replace all fourth-generation multirole fighters - F-16, F-15E, F / A-18, the AV-8 Harrier-II vertical, and even the A-10 Thunderbolt anti-tank attack aircraft
https://topwar.ru/64533-7-mifov-ob-istrebitele-f-35.html

[figwam]

Quote: Sergey39

F-35 family replaces all fourth-generation multirole fighters

Yes, it was created as a universal aircraft, but it didn’t work out, billions down the drain, returning to the proven version.

[Robertocalos]

Not "down the drain," but into the economy of your country. In salaries and taxes.

[Lone gunman]

"The US Air Force intends to purchase 2020 F-8EX Advanced Eagle fighters in 15" ... probably this is a prop from the filming of TOP GUN 2 ...)))

[The leader of the Redskins]

Helping Boeing stay afloat? Wisely ... In a businesslike way ...

[cost]

The F-15EX is positioned by Boeing not just as a modernized aircraft, but as a "squire" with more than 20 air-to-air missiles (three times more than other American fighters). It should be used in tandem with fifth-generation fighters, serving as a weapon carrier. Ammunition for stealth fighters carried in internal bays is very limited, and an F-15X flying behind could solve this problem.

[figwam]

Quote: Rich

and flying behind the F-15X could solve this problem

Which will be controlled by suicide bombers, because it will glow like a Christmas tree in comparison with inconspicuous.

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: figvam

will be controlled by suicide bombers, because it will glow like a Christmas tree in comparison with inconspicuous.

It will shine no more than any other 4th generation fighter (or even less). But he has more missiles.

[lucul]

The F-15EX is positioned by Boeing not just as a modernized aircraft, but as a "squire" with more than 20 air-to-air missiles

And what will be its speed with 20 missiles on board? )))

[bayard]

Yes, they need a normal interceptor / aircraft to gain superiority, but the F-35 does not pull on this role, the F-22 is small. Apparently played enough with the 5th generation.

[Magic archer]

I was surprised by one of the characteristics !? Especially the speed of about 3 thousand kilometers per hour
... In general, the Eagle plane is excellent, as indeed the 4th generation in general. And it seems to me it's not a matter of replacing the old F-15s, but something else

[cniza]

Someone didn’t understand something, or a mistake ...

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Duc, the MiG-25 was copied. When Belenko stole it in 1976, it was disassembled, measured - and made F-15, but Boeing was too tough for luminium, titanium and stainless steel.
And the prototype F-35, if you look, was 1 in 1 Yak-141, only a little less.

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: Oo sarcasm

MiG-25 was copied. When Belenko hijacked in 1976, he was disassembled, measured - and made the F-15

What nonsense. F-15 flew in 1972, and in 1976 was already in service.

[Errr]

Regarding the "F-15 as a copy of the MiG-25 hijacked by Belenko to Japan" you are 100% right. This is complete nonsense. Yes, only the prototype of the MiG-25, namely the E-155, made its first flight even in 1964, that is, eight years before the first flight of the F-15. Admire this handsome man.

[Good_Anonymous]

This is an old argument. Admire this beauty:

[Errr]

Admired. But comparing the A-5 with the MiG-25 is like arguing about who is cooler - a stayer or a sprinter. With a rather similar appearance, the result was quite different cars. And after 1979, the Vigilante did not have a successor. Overall (conceptually), the A-5 Vigilante turned out to be an American constructive dead end. Although some of the developments on the airframe of this aircraft were most likely applied later in the design of other machines and, possibly, not only American ones. Personally, I would not argue here. )

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: Herrr

With a fairly similar appearance, the result was quite different cars.

MiG-25 and F-15 also turned out to be different. But the very existence of A-5 shows that we are not talking about copying - just similar tasks give similar solutions.

Quote: Herrr

"Vigilante"

Thin.

[Errr]

A specific task always presupposes a well-defined solution. This is certain. But I also. it is obvious that copying of certain components always takes place. Such is our "primate" nature.

Quote: Good_Anonymous

Quote: Herrr
"Vigilante"

Thin.

In this case, the subtlety is purely American. Just a translation of the English word vigilante into Russian. )

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: Herrr

But to me too it is obvious that copying certain components always takes place.

It is not possible to "copy a component" without having one.

Quote: Herrr

Just a translation of the English word vigilante into Russian.

It is not.

[Oleg83]

Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi

Duc, the MiG-25 was copied. When Belenko stole it in 1976, it was disassembled, measured - and made F-15, but Boeing was too tough for luminium, titanium and stainless steel.
And the prototype F-35, if you look, was 1 in 1 Yak-141, only a little less.

The first flight of the F15 was in 1972, in 1976 it was already operated

[Jack O'Neill]

Duc, the MiG-25 was copied. When Belenko hijacked in 1976, he was disassembled, measured - and made the F-15

[Fraracol_2]

We look everywhere it turns out "the homeland of elephants".

[rocket757]

"Penguin" was only in advertising, I will replace everyone and win everyone. The experts understood that this would not be the case.

[lucul]

Recent purchases of the F-15 were made by the US Air Force in 2001. Then the troops were delivered five new Strike Eagle.

Ie the most "fresh" F-15 is at least 18 years old)))

[Alien From]

Or maybe the mattresses realized that the penguin is "visible" ???)

[donavi49]

So these are different purposes. Penguin is a battlefield.

The F-15EX is such a large aircraft with a large radar and 16-18 AIM-120s on board. Which will shoot from a long range, like who is it? Is Flanker normal, or updated? Well, let’s throw him 4 AIM-120 let him turn. A little - 4 more dokinem.

[lucul]

F-15EX is such a big plane

Compared to the Su-27, it is "small")))

[Operator]

What hangover is the double F-15EX smaller than the single Su-27?

[lucul]

What hangover is the double F-15EX smaller than the single Su-27?

Did you forget this video? )))

[Errr]

Quote: donavi49

... like who is it? Is Flanker normal, or updated? Well, let’s throw him 4 AIM-120 let him turn. A little - 4 more dokinem.

Of course. And throw and finish ... If you have time.

[Good_Anonymous]

The F-15EX is a "rocket carrier" designed to operate in group with stealth fighters.

[Operator]

Stealth F-22 - the destroyer of the conquest of air supremacy, and not the escort fighter; stealth F-35 - strike aircraft requiring fighter cover.

The full title of the aircraft considered in the article is F-15EX Advanced Eagle, it is an extreme modification of the two-seat strike F-15E Strike Eagle (and not the single-seat fighter F-15 Eagle). According to the Soviet classification, a golem fighter-bomber, used not in a group, but under the guise of F-15E or F-16 fighters.

The maximum take-off weight of the F-15EX Advanced Eagle is 36,7 tons, afterburning traction - 24 tons, UVT - no, speed - 2650 km / h, range on the built-in tanks - 1950 km.

For comparison: the maximum take-off weight of the multifunctional Su-35S is 34,5 tons, afterburning traction is 29 tons, there are UHTs, speed - 2650 km / h, range on built-in tanks - 3600 km.

Those. the shock F-15EX Advanced Eagle with our multifunctional Su-35S did not even lie nearby.

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: Operator

According to the Soviet classification - a golem fighter-bomber

Do you still adhere to the Soviet classification? There is no union for 28 years, times are changing.

Quote: Operator

range on the built-in tanks - 3600 km.

You do not distinguish between ferry range and combat radius, funny.

Quote: Operator

Those. the shock F-15EX Advanced Eagle with our multifunctional Su-35S did not even lie nearby.

This "strike" will carry 22 air-to-air missiles, but whatever you say, of course.

By the way, the phrase "F-15 was not lying next to the Su-35" sounds ... ambiguous. As if the Su-35 was lying on the ground, and the F-15 was flying about its business. You probably didn't mean that, but it still turned out funny.

[Operator]

The F-15EX Advanced Eagle (4445 km) is also the shorter range on suspension tanks than the Su-35S (4500 km).

The Russian idiomatic expression "did not even lie next to it" means that the object is not comparable even in the case of lying next to the best object, and not that flying next

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: Operator

The F-15EX Advanced Eagle (4445 km) is also the shorter range on suspension tanks than the Su-35S (4500 km).

The difference is 5km. Yes, this is a decisive advantage.

[Operator]

Of course, it’s minus 5 km, it’s not zrad, but

[Good_Anonymous]

Well, I’m saying: winning 5 km of ferry range is a brilliant victory. Compared to this, 22 missiles are just ridiculous.

[Operator]

Ferry range is important only for kamikaze, apparently

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: Operator

Ferry range is important only for kamikaze, apparently laughing

Those. for su-35 kamikaze 5km better? Okay

[sp77ark]

Well, not really. F-15EX is a multi-tool platform. Forgot about FAST PACK.
Conformal ... containers, linings. Little effect on max. speed, but allow you to sharpen the device for a specific task.
Do not reset, i.e. can be considered as embedded. Israelis do not remove them. There are a lot of things inside.
And in the option of fuel tanks, the range almost doubles (5.5t to internal 6.2t), i.e. the same 3600km.

[Operator]

What is the maximum speed and available overload of the F-15EX Advanced Eagle with conformal fuel tanks?

[sp77ark]

No worse than the F-15E, which for 2 conformal and 3 external flies at 3900km.

[Operator]

Any attachment to the glider reduces the speed and the available overload of the aircraft - i.e. > 2650 km / h and> 9 g. After that the plane passes from the category of fighters to the category of shock ones.

MFI Su-35S with integrated tanks is free from this drawback.

[sp77ark]

Su-35 flies without external load? Naked, without rockets? 2650 km / h in combat body kit? Oh well...
Packs do not change the balance, they are not on the pylons.
And overloads are limited by the capabilities of the pilot and not by the glider.
From a full-fledged rocket, no overload will help.

[Operator]

Conformal tanks + rockets slow down more than built-in tanks + rockets.

In the F-15 without conformal tanks and the Su-35, the available overload is the same (9 g) and limited by the glider (which, of course, coincides with the capabilities of the pilots).

What does the all-round explosive missile have to do with it - missile interception of an airplane is possible when the ratio of available overloads of the missile and the airplane is 2 to 1, which in the case of the F-15 without conformal tanks and the Su-35 is achieved only at the missile solid propellant rocket (without any connection with its perspective) .

[askort154]

Alien From .... And maybe the mattresses have realized that the penguin is "visible" ???

Judging by the way they strenuously impose them on their "allies", logic dictates that the F-35 does not meet the declared characteristics. For modern radar and missile defense systems, it is no longer a "surprise" for the enemy. and for the means of production and maintenance of one F-35, it is possible to create and maintain several aircraft that surpass it in performance characteristics. We have already understood that the hobby for super-expensive "stealth" is a mistake.
Therefore, Russia did not strain its budget to "rivet" hundreds of Su-57s. Moreover, in the USSR (Russia), air defense systems, radars, and now electronic warfare systems, have always gone ahead of other countries, starting with the Second World War.
Because Russia's strategy has never been aggressive and offensive, but has always been and is - powerfully defensive. It was in Russia that the expression was born - "whoever comes to us with a sword will perish by the sword." !

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: askort154

It was in Russia that the expression was born - "whoever comes to us with a sword will perish by the sword." ! yes

Qui gladio ferit, gladio perit

(yes, in the movie this expression was rephrased a little).

[V.I.P.]

So many of their allies refuse to purchase f-35. In Europe, in my 3-5 countries refused, Canada ....

[Oleg83]

Quote: V.I.P.

So many of their allies refuse to purchase f-35. In Europe, in my 3-5 countries refused, Canada ....

Who refused? Failure is when there was a contract or at least negotiations were going on. The Germans didn’t even negotiate, the French did the same (they have their own Rafale)
Canada formally refused (military spending was cut there due to the fall in oil prices after 2014), but did not exit the project. F18, F35 and Gripen remained in the new tender (Rafale and Eurofighter already left the tender)

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Alien From

Or maybe the mattresses realized that the penguin is "visible" ???)

They knew, and they were also told ...

[janeck]

but in my opinion, it was the best fighter of the US Air Force .. as well as us Su-27.

[Protos]

"It is clarified that the F-15 is being purchased not to replace the F-35A, but to replace the outdated fleet of F-15Cs in service. In the future, it is planned to purchase 18-24 fighters annually."
Cost around @ F35 and decided to return to the good old classmate Su-30SM.
At the same time, the military commissar of the Boeing Group was not allowed to die of hunger

[Jack O'Neill]

At the same time, the military commissar of the Boeing group was not allowed to die of hunger.

Everyone would be so "hungry" as Boeing ...

[Jack O'Neill]

The people again did not taste what, where and why.
F-15X is not a replacement for F-35 or F-22The F-15X is an addition to them! And they will buy it not because they are not satisfied with the F-35, but because the USAF needs such vehicles.
The F-15C is really becoming obsolete today, it needs a replacement, and the F-35, for obvious reasons, will not be able to replace it. It was partially replaced by the F-22, but the F-22 is even expensive for the USA. Plus, the production of F-22 is frozen (not stopped), and the resumption of production is also worth the money.
Turn on the logic.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Stop laughing, just like children in kindergarten.

The new F-15 can kick any Russian fighter and they have hundreds of them.

The F-15 of the latest modification, in addition to maneuverability, is in no way inferior to our Su-35, and in the avionics I think and surpasses!

The F-35 is a stealth plane for delivering covert strikes for the most part on ground targets, and the F-15 is a plane of air superiority.

F-35 is not instead of F-15, but in addition to it and F-22 !!!

Do not turn this site into trash with mediocre and stupid comments !!!

[lucul]

Do not turn this site into trash with mediocre and stupid comments !!!

Whose mill are you pouring water on? )))
Or haven’t you left the worship of Western technology, which was massively imposed by enemy propaganda in the late USSR? Some have it rooted for life ....
What do you think, having rolled your eyes, delightedly clatter your tongue, like natives?
No one says that the F-15 is flying garbage (this is the best aircraft that they have), just against the backdrop of massive advertising F-22 / F-35, the release of the F-15 looks illogical.
And a healthy banter of commentators here is quite appropriate .....

[zenion]

Isn’t the documentation and so on lost from those rockets that flew to the Moon and back?

[sit]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Do not turn this site into trash with mediocre and stupid comments !!!

Here you are powerless, your calls to the void, a fait accompli is already very difficult to change.

[lucul]

Here you are powerless, your calls to the void, a fait accompli is already very difficult to change.

Oh well - how much time did you spend on the site to make such an opinion? )))))

[Ryaruav]

don't say a very serious car

[Robertocalos]

CHITD. Good old (they are the most perfect) aircraft will not go anywhere. Whatever happens, the Strike Igles and the Su-34 will be raiding. When all the stealth get hurt.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

Turn on the logic.

Maybe this will help enable (if available)
"Check out the detailed Air Force Magazine to see how the F-35A and F-15EX stack up against each other when it comes to production costs, performance, fuel capacity, lifespan and more."
https://www.airforcemag.com/article/F-15EX-vs-F-35A-/
https://www.airforcemag.com/PDF/MagazineArchive/PublishingImages/2019/May%202019/F-15.F-35_Vertical.v30.pdf

[kimlykvp]

The aircraft was developed by McDonald-Douglas
in the 70s, and Boeing does not know how to build fighters.

[bar]

We decided to feed Boeing so that he would not die at all?

[Adimius38]

The F-15 workhorse is not surprising that they are being bought again, but one thing to keep in mind is that this is a deeply modernized version.

[Sapsan136]

In fact, this is the recognition of the United States that they do not have a normal 5th generation fighter. Their supposedly invisible are not sufficiently invisible, their coverage is extremely unstable, and their maneuverability leaves much to be desired, but the price is simply indecently high even for the US Air Force

[eagle owl]

Actually, not so long ago there was an interview with the most experienced fighter pilot of the US Air Force, as he was called, well, he smashed the F-35 purchase there and said in plain text that it would be more efficient to buy the F-15. and even in the same quantities - there will be more sense.
It seems that the F-35 after the F-22 is a fissier ... They will push only to slaves - Israel there, Japan. Purely heat slaves for loot

[Private-K]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Re-launching the F-22 is very expensive.

No, this is called "loss of competence".

It is clarified that the F-15 is not purchased to replace the F-35A, but to replace the already outdated fleet of F-15Cs in service.

All old F-15S, as well as aircraft of other models, was planned to be replaced exclusively by F35. But the penguin does not want to fly correctly. And F22 can no longer produce. So I HAD to return to the good old F15 with reformatting of the Su-35 type.
Considering the number of new Ф15Х intended for production - 200 pcs. - this is an indirect recognition of the F35's inability to qualify as an air combat / air superiority fighter.
By the way, mark my words: after a while, Israel will also begin to purchase these F15Xs in its own configuration.

[fa2998]

Quote: TermNachTER

but not the junk of the 70s of development?

The basis of the Russian VKS-aircraft made on the basis of the MiG-29 and Su-27. And they are classmates of the F-15. The Americans just put a new letter in the name, we have a new number.