Beretta: the most coveted trophy

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"Beretta" model of 1934 and release of 1937. Caliber 9 mm, magazine capacity 7 rounds

Weapon from around the world. Tell me, what can an ordinary soldier bring with him from the war? Not ours, of course, but, say, American? Of course, something is not very big, because where did he get the junk in the bag. However, if we asked the American military police about this, we would get an interesting answer. After the end of World War II, the Beretta pistol of 1934 and 1937 became the main souvenir for soldiers returning from the South European theater. And obviously there were some reasons for this, right?


The 1915 Beretta was bezelless, and this series began with it.

It so happened that the Beretta company began to produce pistols in the years of the First World War. Then the army entered the army in 1915 model design Tulio Marengoni caliber 9 mm. In 1917, it was supplemented by a sample under the Browning cartridge of 7.65 mm and finally a 1922 model with an enlarged cutout on the frame above the barrel for ejecting cartridges, which made it different from all other pistols of this time. So at the end of the 1920s, the company had three models of pistols in its lineup. The newest model was the M1923 pistol, but it was not accepted into service by the Italian army. The main difference between this model and the previous ones was the open trigger with a hole on it. As a result, the company decided to start developing a completely new pistol that would attract the attention of the military and allow it to receive a profitable military order.



And I must say that the work was crowned with success: the 1931 model appeared, which had all the combat characteristics of the 23rd model, but had a more compact design, and was lighter than its predecessor. The new pistol was developed under the classic Browning 7.65 cartridge, which was distinguished by high combat characteristics. And this pistol became the basis for the creation of the next model M 1934, from which the previous sample differed only in three features: the line of the tilt of the handle; wooden overlays on the handle; and some changes to the trigger.


The 1931 model already had all the signs of a future that has earned universal acclaim.

There was no special documentary evidence of the production of these pistols, although we know that it was quite limited and ceased by 1935 with the advent of the 1935 model of the same caliber. A number of 1931 models were acquired by the Navy. fleet, while some, supposedly very small, were sold in the civilian market. The serial numbers of these pistols for some reason begin with 400. So one instance of the 000 civil model was, for example, numbered 1933, and the other 402 had a number higher than 000.

Weapons made for the navy are easily recognizable by the medallion on the handles with the inscription RM and an anchor between the two letters. Civilian samples have a classic medallion with a monogram RV.

Several samples of M 1932 have been preserved, where the number 2 is clearly stamped on top of the number l. Based on this, it can be assumed that this pistol was not mass-produced, but was manufactured in small quantities as an experimental prototype or sample for delivery to the military commissions, which at that time were looking for a new pistol for the Italian armed forces. In fact, the 1932 model is identical to the future 1934 model, which was officially adopted by the royal army. The only difference was again in the handles, which at first had “cheeks” made of wood, not bakelite, but this design seems quite normal for the experimental sample.

In addition to the already-classic 7.65 caliber, the 1932 model first used the .380 ACP (9 × 17 mm) Colt-automatic cartridge, which was also one of the many creations of J.M. Browning. The cartridge in Italy was renamed to 9 “corto” (short), obviously in order to avoid confusion with the 9 mm cartridge of Glisenti, whose cartridge was several millimeters longer and therefore nicknamed the 9 mm “lungo” (long) - all that led to a noticeable confusion among 9mm caliber cartridges intended for use in Italian automatic pistols.

In the first half of the 30s, the new Beretta pistols were subjected to a series of comprehensive tests in the Italian army and the police. The pistols were compared with the German Walther PP, but in the end they liked their own gun more and was adopted by the name Modello 1934 calibro 9 corto.


"Beretta M" of 1934 and release of 1937 with the removed store. Strap bracket and magazine latch clearly visible

The adoption of this new 9 mm pistol by the army did not prevent, however, the development of the 7,65 caliber version, the 1935 model, the pistols of which were supplied to the Navy and the Air Force, and were produced regardless of the production of a larger caliber model.

It is interesting to note that these two pistols, which are almost identical, have, nevertheless, been arranged in such a way that it is impossible to replace components such as trunks or magazines in them.

It is also interesting that although the “Model 34” was considered a completely new model and was numbered separately (the numbers start at 500), the “Model 000” was still considered a new version of the 35 model and was numbered in the same series as its predecessor, as indicated by an analysis of their serial numbers. It should be added that there is also a “Model of 1931”, but in fact it is quite rare. This is nothing more than a commercial version of 1937, differing only in the inscription on the side surface of the shutter housing and the absence of military markings.

In the late 30s, Beretta also began experimenting with alloy frames for its pistols. In the postwar years, this version of the 7,65 caliber pistol had some commercial success, while the 9 mm version with the new frame was completely unsatisfactory and its release was continued exclusively from steel.


Marking

Experts note that the Beretta M1934 (like the 35-year-old model) was a high-quality weapon and practically had no competitors in its functional class. Despite the import ban, and perhaps just because of it, this automatic pistol became an attractive military trophy for soldiers of all armies who crossed the land of Italy during the Second World War. Incidentally, the Italians write about this, but among the memoirs of the Americans there is evidence of this.

Its advantages include high reliability and good mobility, qualities that are necessary for any weapon on which human life depends in an extreme situation.

Beretta: the most coveted trophy

"Beretta" M1935. Right view

To this should be added the minimal cost and simplicity of any repairs necessary for this gun, which was required only in rare cases. In addition, he did not need high-power ammunition, which facilitated the process of learning how to shoot it. And it is very significant that all Beretta models are still in demand many years after they were discontinued, and the market quickly absorbed the masses of these pistols.


It is interesting that one of them even got into our Soviet cinema, where it was Beretta M1934 that was armed with none other than Semyon Semenovich Gorbunkov, the protagonist of the popular comedy The Diamond Arm. Why was he given this particular gun? You might think that our filmmakers didn’t find other small-sized pistols, but again, it means they weren’t! Here he is sticking out in his bag ...



"Where did you get the gun and the money from ?!"

The production of M1934 and M1935 continued throughout the war, although its total character on the quality of the weapons produced in Italy, and not only in Italy, certainly greatly affected the course of the war, especially with regard to weapons fired in 1944 and 1945. Fortunately for these guns, they were so simple that any manufacturing defect only affected their exterior finish and not their “performance” or safety.


Beretta with a shutter on a delay

The pistol of the 1945 model produced in the last months of World War II does not have a neat external finish and looks rude. The serial number and caliber designation are the only markings on these pistols, and they are marked on the frame just above the trigger guard.


This is what the Beretta M1934 looked like in 1942

Interestingly, during the time when the production of pistols fell into the hands of the Germans, the criteria for serial numbers changed. The simple progressive numbers that Beretta always used were replaced by a mixed code of letters - usually German, and numbers. In any case, there are several samples with the inscription "Pistola Beretta Cal 7.65 M35 SA Armaguerra-Cremona 1944" along with German numbering.


"Beretta" M1934 with engraving

I personally managed to get to know this gun and hold it in my hands. Although his tilt of the handle is not so great, it is very convenient to hold it in your hands. A big role in the convenience of retention is played by the “spur” at his store. Thanks to the "spur" and the handle fits comfortably in the hand, and the store is removed without much difficulty. True, in the traditions of his time, designers provided the gun with a magazine latch at the base of the handle. The spring is tight and shifting it is not very convenient. But there is no danger of losing the store.


Beretta in the hand. The spring of the extractor is clearly visible, ensuring the ejection of the sleeve straight up

The store feeder is also a shutter lag. As soon as the cartridges are used up, the shutter abuts against the protrusion of the feeder and remains in the rear position. Only when the empty magazine is removed does the bolt go forward, but only if it has not been fixed in the rear position with a safety catch for the recess in the bolt. Such locking of the bolt, in particular, is necessary for incomplete disassembly of the gun. Also on the left side of the bolt there is a stud - an indicator of the presence of a cartridge in the chamber. Of course, one would have to shoot from it in order to finally say whether it is convenient or not, but what is not is not. So you have to be satisfied with at least that.
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  1. +21
    December 27 2019
    Not ours, of course, but, say, American?
    ,,, it became directly upset crying trophy No. in the USSR they were awarded winked ! and which office wink well and correctly noticed in the famous comedy participated fellow

    L.A. Weiner from the NKGB of the USSR 1944

    1. +9
      December 27 2019
      Hi Sergey! And why not TT, where is the support of the domestic manufacturer? It’s a joke, of course, in those years that was not a verbal approach.
      1. +19
        December 27 2019
        Because it was "RECRUITED" from where the Soviet citizen got the imported pistol. Gaidai is a genius.
        1. +6
          December 27 2019
          Ha! The fact that genius is understandable. But I meant Comrade Weiner's prize gun L.A. hi
          1. +8
            December 27 2019
            Duc, on the contrary, an award-winning trophy pistol of prestige. It seems that even now, the Walthers p-38 and ppk are handed out as a prize.
            1. +3
              December 27 2019
              Examples? I ask for examples, especially about p-38. Where, when, to whom? stop
              1. +10
                December 27 2019
                Shtirlitsu from Himmler, "For impeccable work in SD" And it was P.38. laughing
                1. +10
                  December 28 2019
                  And the award-winning PPK from which he shot and followed him into the pond?
                  1. +7
                    December 28 2019
                    And on the premium tapestry in Gothic script: "To comrade Stirlitz from comrade Himmler."

                    "Never before has Stirlitz been so close to failure!" (C) fellow
                    1. +15
                      December 28 2019
                      "Sorry for Walter!" crying
                      1. +7
                        December 28 2019
                        Does Shurik commemorate a favorite trunk? Poor thing ... drinks
                      2. +17
                        December 28 2019
                        And what Shurik does not like a good trunk? feel
                        drinks
                      3. +8
                        December 28 2019
                        I don’t know about the barrel, and a good TABLE, of course, is loved by anyone, and not just Shurik. wink
                      4. +9
                        December 28 2019
                        I agree. good I’m doing a little bit of preparation. winked Three days left in total.
                      5. +4
                        December 28 2019
                        We are here too ... already trying to start something. laughing drinks
                      6. +7
                        December 28 2019
                        Lucky for you, but I still need to drive. I’ll meet my wife from work and rush to catch you. lol drinks
                      7. +3
                        December 28 2019
                        I locked the steering wheel of the third bottom in the garage, from the temptation, a friend still calls almost every day, but in general does not accept alcohol. smile
                      8. +7
                        December 28 2019
                        So why not frolic - that’s it. good
                        I regret it when I was in the GSVG; I had to look for that Walter from Stirlitz. I’d be a trophy too. It would be no worse than Beretta. Moreover, the award. laughing
                      9. +3
                        December 28 2019
                        So he's better than Beretta. good
                      10. +8
                        December 28 2019
                        Konstantin, on the wall, see how many weapons fellow I really don’t know them request
                      11. +6
                        December 28 2019
                        Hello, Sergey! Here, however, you can't tell half, but the Japanese "Nambu" and "Smith and Wesson" are there for sure. Also "Mauser" and a couple of completely incomprehensible pistols. Below are three flints, one of them, in my opinion, with a wheel lock. smile
          2. +2
            December 27 2019
            Why not. In the movie "The Meeting Place Cannot Be Changed" featured the award-winning Browning, if my memory serves me right. It's just that in those days, the attitude to weapons was much easier.
            1. +8
              December 27 2019
              My friend! The key word is now! And the film featured * Bayard *, the episode with the murder of Larisa.
            2. +8
              December 27 2019
              There appeared Bayard! Yes and YES - there are still Prizes and Walter PPK and 38 ... even Mausers (Bolo)! wink
              1. +3
                December 27 2019
                Friends! Well, names, surnames, appearances? "Your rank, landing place, name! Damn it! What is your name? Where is your parachute, where ????" ... Argument, pliz! soldier
                1. +12
                  December 27 2019
                  What a provocateur you are wink hmm ... so as not to burn, The Head of Roscosmos has two models (out of three)! I personally know who has the second Chechen (one of the three).
                  Actually - Award Weapon, a very closed topic. bully Alex.
                  1. +3
                    December 27 2019
                    Got it! Is that him ??? laughing
                  2. +7
                    December 27 2019
                    who knows a lot - must be able to be silent !! lol Lesh, hi! hi
                    1. +5
                      December 27 2019
                      Hello roma soldier Here you are right ... so not far and to failure (thought Stirlitz) feel
                      1. +5
                        December 27 2019
                        thought Stirlitz
                        hiding a budennovka in a pocket ...
                      2. +10
                        December 27 2019
                        There is still a moment ... when it came to casting stairs for the Temple of the Ministry of Defense from captured weapons, the public rose - that unique samples, according to corruption schemes, would go to the West (under the guise of re-melting). And this is huge money! All Historic Weapons - Selling Great! The public - at their own expense, guaranteed a sufficient amount of Hitler's steel - to the stairs (how much of it is scattered in Our forests and swamps). fellow
                        They wrote a letter to the President ... they received an answer - not one working copy - will not be re-melted.
                      3. +5
                        December 27 2019
                        No, but the tanks lack chtoli? why weapons?
                      4. +8
                        December 27 2019
                        Why are you asking me? request I - I would not even sell it ... Price - Rising! fellow
                        Yes, and Memory is ... about Victory. So, I would throw it out for sale - the most valuable ones ... whose price is $ 10 thousand.
                      5. +5
                        December 27 2019
                        Yes, and no matter the price!
                      6. +6
                        December 27 2019
                        Quote: novel xnumx
                        Yes, and no matter the price!

                        I agree, but ... We have - Millions of these trunks! Valuable to Future Generations, the rest can be sold.
                      7. +6
                        December 27 2019
                        eh, to dig and choose .. for good memory
                      8. +6
                        December 27 2019
                        Whatever the opportunity ... did you choose?
                      9. +10
                        December 27 2019
                        I would die drooping there, I want everything and Beretta, and Walter and Parabellum and Mauser and mp-38/42 and even mg would not hurt
                      10. +6
                        December 27 2019
                        laughing laughing laughing The owner - in a word! Yes
                        Well, or Plyushkin - in common people (although the miser was Korobochka)! bully
                      11. +8
                        December 27 2019
                        here yes !! and the colder would be even bigger !!!
                      12. +10
                        December 27 2019
                        Oh ... Roma touched on a sore subject ... one Eccentric (with a different letter) destroyed the whole colder with the symbols of the USSR !!! Unique patterns ... No words ... only Mat (prohibited on VO).
                      13. +8
                        December 27 2019
                        would kill !!
                      14. +9
                        December 27 2019
                        You and I will become extremists!
                        Come on - just offer to tear off your ears ... and not your ears either, but - in a joke! wink
                      15. +7
                        December 27 2019
                        Even here - far from politics, some kind of skin is Minus negative
                        Rejoice - the skin that is on you ...
                      16. 0
                        December 29 2019
                        Quote: Hunter 2
                        (although the miser was Box)!

                        I apologize - wasA, Box she is a landowner, a woman hi
                      17. +6
                        December 27 2019
                        Roman, how do I understand you !!!
                      18. +8
                        December 27 2019
                        Here Roma understand not only It is possible ... also Praise - It is necessary! hi
                      19. +7
                        December 27 2019
                        I am pleased to praise, but ... Alexei, you, by chance, do not disclose the family secrets of Roman? wink
                      20. +12
                        December 27 2019
                        Miles Sorry ... Roma - A Good Person, A Noble Techie ... and I won’t give anything else ... even try! wink
                        This is great when a man respects the memory of ancestors and respects weapons (both ours and the enemy). good
                        Well, not about dolls, but to Him - Drooling out ... right word!
                      21. +6
                        December 27 2019
                        No, well, that’s understandable. I have the same approach to this matter. smile drinks
                      22. +11
                        December 28 2019
                        Colleague drinks . Weapon - carries a HUGE energy, both positive and negative! It (Weapon) - in itself, Harmless ... not a weapon kills but a man! sad
                        Men, Wars - at least they should respect (Weapons), Know and be able to use it.
                      23. +9
                        December 28 2019
                        Everything is correct from the first to the last word. On this occasion, I remembered a comedy with A. Sordi, the one where he played the arms dealer. There he explained to one type who called him "the traveling salesman of death" that here it is, the weapon, Walter shows, it is nothing - a piece of iron, and it becomes an instrument of death when it falls into one or another hand. I don't remember exactly, but something like this. hi
                      24. +10
                        December 28 2019
                        Konstantin, Ready to Subscribe under every word ... the only annoying thing that is said in Comedy belay it should be Drama or Tragedy by genre. We will be familiar, my name is Alex hi .
                      25. +7
                        December 28 2019
                        We will be familiar drinks , among friends they call the cat. hi
                        The Italians were very fond of filming "social" comedies at that time, in this film they very hard mocked some African regimes under the dictatorial rule of "cannibals". So, everyone there could see what was more to his heart. And who just wanted to neigh, he was satisfied with this. Well, there was, for example, such humor: two mercenaries from Germany are demonstrating MG-42 in action, and one swears, "We lost the war because of this machine gun, and these are black ... they are buying it!" Well, who will take it seriously. smile
                      26. +5
                        December 28 2019
                        Come on, Lech, I'm not a secret !! not even chipboard already
                      27. +4
                        December 28 2019
                        Roma, Though you are an unclassified ... but Comedian (My mother) Unique! We will protect you! soldier
                      28. +3
                        December 28 2019
                        this attitude to life, crap is enough, you have to have fun
                      29. 0
                        January 5 2020
                        I would look at someone who would not want the same
                      30. +1
                        January 6 2020
                        I know these, but decent-looking people
                      31. 9PA
                        +2
                        December 28 2019
                        Dream .. how it looks
                      32. 9PA
                        +1
                        December 28 2019
                        Or so, very attractive
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                      34. +5
                        December 27 2019
                        It's nice to hear that at least something has been achieved. Although ... the thieves are brilliant. request
                      35. 0
                        December 29 2019
                        Quote: Hunter 2
                        There is still a moment ... when it came to casting stairs for the Temple of the Ministry of Defense from captured weapons, the public rose - that unique samples, according to corruption schemes, would go to the West (under the guise of re-melting). And this is huge money! All Historic Weapons - Selling Great! The public - at their own expense, guaranteed a sufficient amount of Hitler's steel - to the stairs (how much of it is scattered in Our forests and swamps).

                        "A total of 800 Parabellums and Walters each, 1200 98k carbines and about a dozen Maschinengewehr 42 are supposed to be utilized from the Wehrmacht's captured small arms to create a temple." (c) Here: https://riafan.ru/1144864 exactly what captured weapons will be used in construction and how they are stored with the photo.
                2. +6
                  December 27 2019
                  Quote: Phil77
                  , names, surnames, appearances? "Your rank, place of disembarkation

                  Will scratch tongue Ahmad Haji Kadyrov presented with Mauser
      2. +3
        December 27 2019
        Quote: Phil77
        And why not TT, where is the support of the domestic manufacturer?

        Beretta is beautiful, especially the latest models, but what about the TT? A piece of metal, somewhat processed by a file, is also unreliable and dangerous to operate.
        1. +5
          December 27 2019
          Advertising! She’s all so beautiful! No? TT served and / for fans will serve /. Believe me!
          1. 0
            December 31 2019
            Quote: Phil77
            Advertising! She's all so beautiful! No?

            So we are talking about an award weapon, not a service one. Yes, and as a service TT, it was unsuccessful, it was not for nothing that they wanted to replace it immediately after being put into service, only the war interfered. Ridiculously, it was adopted in the 30th, and in the 52nd the Makar went into service.
            Quote: Phil77
            She's all so beautiful! No?

            and not only beautiful, but also reliable, and convenient, and safe for the shooter, unlike the TT
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    3. +1
      December 28 2019
      Beautiful, symbolic and convenient - the cartridges are rare, easy to track, if that.
  2. +10
    December 27 2019
    Good evening to everyone! But an interesting article turned out, dear Vyacheslav Olegovich! Thank you! I read it with pleasure. hi
  3. +7
    December 27 2019
    About pistols, for me PM as a standard 92 for my not big handles is bulky. smile
  4. -8
    December 27 2019
    And where is the TT? Administrator? Turn on your brains!
  5. +11
    December 27 2019
    ,,, with such a gun Mahatma Gandhi was killed on January 30, 1948.
  6. -4
    December 27 2019
    A. Beretta, Beretta! , damn it, found!
  7. -5
    December 27 2019
    Fool, do not show! Enough!
  8. +11
    December 27 2019
    Hi!
    We, in Argentina, sell a lot of these .....
    1. +5
      December 27 2019
      Bought yourself? laughing laughing laughing
      1. +6
        December 27 2019
        Judging by the minus, they did not bargain. Well, okay, everything is in the future. drinks
    2. +12
      December 27 2019
      Argentine "Bersa" - based on "Beretta".



      https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/15060/bersa+t9mphc++thunder+pro+series+17%2b1+9mm+425%22
    3. +5
      December 27 2019

      Hi!
      We, in Argentina, sell a lot of these .....


      And what about crime? And then we are all scared, such as kill each other.
      1. +5
        December 27 2019
        Quote: Arzt
        how are you doing with crime? And then we are all scared, like kill each other

        A very, very controversial issue. Personally, I will emphasize PERSONALLY, I do not need a weapon. Why? Yes, just with our unstable legislation to sit in old age? Well, it's stupid, no? But somewhere in the village, but in the defense of your house / site / -that yes! It is necessary! and more powerful than the notorious "Beretta"!
        1. +5
          December 27 2019
          Sergey, hello! hi As for the village, I cannot but agree, there are such thoughts that it would be nice to have something in your pocket, and not just carry it in your hands. But about the "unstable legislation" you are absolutely right, and I have worn out with a gun every five years to go to Moscow and drive around. Bureaucrats are bad.
          1. +2
            December 28 2019
            Am I in a * bath * or what? For what ????
            1. +3
              December 28 2019
              Why is that? You write, I read you, everything is normal. And on History, a new article by Vashchenko, take a look.
      2. +1
        December 28 2019
        Hey.
        We have statistics that of all crimes with firearms, AZhzhzhzhzhzh, 1,5% were committed by "legal" weapons.
        That is, 98,5% of crimes are committed by "illegal" weapons.
      3. 0
        December 28 2019
        [quote = Arzt] [quote]
        Hi!
        We, in Argentina, sell a lot of such ..... [/ quote]


        Hi
        This gun, well, what I published in the photo, is for collectors, with a gun of this year, and at such a price, the daily wear is doubtful to me.
  9. +5
    December 27 2019
    But in general, where are you, Vyacheslav Olegovich?!?! Where are you? We are fighting with Sergey, and you are de ???
    1. +3
      December 28 2019
      Sergei! Vyacheslav Olegovich was banned last week !!!
    2. +2
      December 28 2019
      But in general, where are you, Vyacheslav Olegovich?!?! Where are you? We are fighting with Sergey, and you are de ???

      Yeah, I said the same thing the day before yesterday about the forum. We fight with Michael .... crying but help did not come! wink drinks
  10. +9
    December 27 2019
    There was no special documentary evidence of the production of these pistols, although we know that it was quite limited and ceased by 1935 with the advent of the 1935 model of the same caliber. A number of 1931 models were acquired by the navy, while some, presumably very small, were sold on the civilian market. The serial numbers of these pistols for some reason begin with 400. So one instance of the 000 civil model was, for example, numbered 1933, and the other 402 had a number higher than 000.

    Such information is in the directory Pistolt militari Italiano L. Salvatici
    The 1931 model (or Pistola Beretta 7,65 Brev. 1915 - 1919 M. 1931) was released in the years 1931-1933 in the amount of 8000 units (No. 400001 to 408000) of which about 6500 M1931 and about 1500 M1932.
    The difference is in the handle configuration.
    At M1931 it is straight.
    1. +7
      December 27 2019

      In M1932, the rear surface of the handle has a bend.
      Several samples of M 1932 have been preserved, where the number 2 is clearly stamped on top of the number l. Based on this, it can be assumed that this pistol was not mass-produced, but was manufactured in small quantities as an experimental prototype or model for delivery to the military commissions, which at that time were looking for a new pistol for the Italian armed forces.
      That's just if the number two is stamped on top of the number one - this is Beretta M1932.
      Actually - M1932 is a transitional model to M1934, therefore there are M1934 pistols where four are knocked out over two.
  11. +9
    December 27 2019
    Thanks to Vyacheslav Olegych for the article, a kind of "ray of light in the dark kingdom." smile

    ... perhaps it was thanks to him that this automatic pistol became an attractive military trophy for soldiers of all armies who crossed the land of Italy during the Second World War.

    I do not think that among the soldiers of the Union armies there were real experts in assessing the relative rarity of captured weapons. And the Americans, in particular, were simply obsessed with all kinds of trophies and souvenirs.
    As for the functionality, the RR and RRK under the same 7x65 Browning cartridge beat these Berettas M1931-35 both in terms of reliability and ease of use. Just like Walther PP, under a 9 mm kurzpatron beat Beretta “Modello 1934 calibro 9 corto”. And this is not only my opinion, Walters of both models are produced and copied to this day, but these Berettas ... request
    1. +10
      December 28 2019
      And these "Beretta" were produced until 1992. Not enough too.
      1. +7
        December 28 2019
        Good night, Vic Nikolaevich. hi
        Issued, but not copied. Although ... the Spaniards, in their simplicity, were tearing down everything that was produced in this world.
    2. +3
      December 28 2019
      My friend, it seems I ran into something, for which I don’t know ???, a personal connection? Antosha has everything. good
      1. +3
        December 28 2019
        So everything seems to be normal, now I will write in a personal.
        1. +5
          December 28 2019
          He’s not opening his face! There’s news from Olegovich! I can’t open what? I don’t know! Oh, how ,! laughing
          1. +4
            December 28 2019
            The devil knows, usually the opposite. You can’t write a comment, but please in PM. Write to admins, maybe just a glitch.
            1. +4
              December 28 2019
              I'm afraid wassat What if there are bombshets? And it’s angry at me!
              1. +2
                December 28 2019
                C'mon, this is his job. Angry, not evil, but I must understand the problem. If not a ban, it means a glitch. drinks
            2. +4
              December 28 2019
              Strange, I didn’t swear, everything was correct, the GDP didn’t scold either (although it was worth it), a glitch?!? !!?
              1. +1
                December 28 2019
                Certainly a glitch, Anton says a server crash. Write to the admins.
                1. +2
                  December 28 2019
                  Glitch? Then CCM is the best club of all time !!!! laughingI won’t write, I don’t want to! For, right! "Hangover is a delicate matter" !!!!
                  1. +2
                    December 28 2019
                    Well, as a hosh, it's up to you. A hangover is really a delicate matter, so it’s better not to hangover. smile
                    1. +3
                      December 28 2019
                      Frets, friend! Temporarily disconnected, Seryoga-hello! Flaming !! Bye!
    3. +1
      December 31 2019
      100%. In Israel, it is not uncommon to meet with civilians both 1934 and 1935, as well as Walter PP / PPK.
      Walter is definitely better, but in defense of Beretta I will say that in terms of reliability, these old men can still give odds to many modern samples.
  12. +8
    December 28 2019
    It happened to me to use the Beretta 72, 22 gauge in the field this fall. We have a separate hunting season in the USA in my state, when you can use charging nipples only from the barrel. just like for Peter Alekseevich. chuck bite and TD. In short, I hit a deer in the neck. he fell. but when I approached it was visible. that he didn’t kill but simply paralyzed, I didn’t want to get my foot on my hip. so pulled Beretta and shot behind the ear, The machine is nice and famous for those. that in spite of the fact that the little thing_ does not jam, Perhaps because. that the shutter frame is all open from above, Year of production-1960. For self-defense, of course, I don’t wear it. and so on a little scare coyote and TP
    1. +6
      December 28 2019
      You are living well, gentlemen "imperialists": you have a choke in your hands, a Beretta in your pocket ... smile drinks
  13. +1
    December 28 2019
    "Tell me, what can an ordinary soldier bring with him from the war? Not ours, of course, but, say, an American?" There wasn’t a trophy weapon on hand after the war, quite at all. )))
  14. -2
    December 28 2019
    Nothing for the review article, though not a single source is indicated, but oh well, this is Shpakovsky. There will be something to poke with Olga’s nose, otherwise he introduced a new trick into his tantrums accusatory, about plagiarism. laughing
  15. 0
    December 28 2019
    when I was in Chisinau, working as a milling machine, we made this model for a sporting 5,6mm of the three of us, one completed it without burnishing and without self-cocking from 30 meters, I clearly hit the door without aiming
  16. 0
    December 30 2019
    Fairly good article, and almost without errors.
    Here are just walked around and did not indicate the shortcomings of the models 934 and 935. And they are quite significant.
    1. Unsatisfactory accuracy of fire. The reason is that the barrel is installed in a frame with short grooves in the breech area, because of this, the barrel "dangles" unnecessarily in the muzzle ...
    2. Non-interchangeability of the main parts. The shutter on the frame from another just can not be put on without painful peeling. And if you don’t immediately put it on, then as a rule it’s a chatter. But more often than just the barrel / bolt just do not put on. All this affects the maintainability, and as a result, again on the accuracy due to the mentioned nilling.

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