Battle of Stalingrad, Alexey Isaev

By August 23, 1942, the Nazi forces reached the northern outskirts of Stalingrad. As you know, not only German divisions acted against the Soviet troops, but also the troops of Hungary, Italy, Romania, and Croatia. The total number of Hitler groups formed at the beginning of the Battle of Stalingrad exceeded 420 thousand people. By November 1942, this number had grown to almost a million.

In the Archive Revolution program on the TacticMedia channel, historian Alexei Isaev details the events of the Battle of Stalingrad.

At one of the initial stages of the operation, the Nazis managed to cut the railway. According to Alexei Isaev, the connection with the "outside world" for Stalingrad was actually cut off. There remained a variant of the Volga steppes and crossings over the Volga, given that in 1942 no bridges existed in the Stalingrad region.

Isaev cites Stalin’s statement, which demanded that he “collide” with the enemy who broke through to Stalingrad, using, inter alia, armored trains “along a circular railway”.

Historian:

We will directly say that when the Germans reached the Volga, Comrade Stalin was in prostration.

According to Alexei Isaev, the time came when Stalin left this prostration - they went the usual way: reserves were thrown into battle, but not only at once, but as they arrived.

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[svp67]

The history of the Battle of Stalingrad has not yet been told to the end and thanks to Alexei Isaev that he works so closely in covering this battle

[lwxx]

Well, at last VO came to A. Isaev, he has a lot of interesting things, and moreover, it is conclusive. E. Prudnikova also gives a lot of interesting things. But all the same, these are video materials, and here would be more article with specific links.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: lwxx

But all the same, these are video materials, and here would be more article with specific links.

I agree. One and a half hours to listen to something like reluctance.

[figwam]

Quote: lwxx

Well, finally VO came to A. Isaev

At VO, Isaev has been shown many times, I like to listen and see him.

[Pessimist22]

Germany. Teacher:
≈ What is the largest city in the world?
Hans:
≈ Stalingrad. Grandfather said that they walked along the same street for 200 days, so they did not reach the end.

[lucul]

Stalingrad. Grandfather said that they walked along the same street for 200 days, so they did not reach the end.

I wonder if the Jews will also fight for Jerusalem ...

[Paul Siebert]

Grandfather said that they walked along the same street for 200 days, so they did not reach the end.

Now, if Urengoy repented in the Reichstag that such Hans grandfathers had found their grave in the Stalingrad steppes.
Who taught them to love their homeland?

[Pessimist22]

I think the homeland is taught to love in the family and school, as well as in literature and cinema, but now you yourself see what is happening.

[rocket757]

There was a fierce battle.
Our grandfathers could win, we will always remember that!

[Jager]

For some reason, only Stalingrad is almost the main battlefield in the mass media. Other great battles are rarely and almost never remembered - about "battles of local importance", in scope no less epic than Stalingrad.

[novel66]

it's about Sychevka, chtoli? so, there is awkwardness. victory marshal

[PavelM]

The petty phrase is embarrassing - "Let's say frankly that when the Germans came to the Volga, Comrade Stalin was in prostration."
Curiously, would historian Isaev be in prostration if he were at the head of state at that moment? And, if this phrase is taken out of context, then WHO did it and FOR WHAT purpose?

[Rostislav Bely]

There was a rumor in Stalingrad that Stalin was arriving - and then they trampled from the left bank, otherwise officers wiped their pants on dances

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Rostislav Bely

There was a rumor in Stalingrad that Stalin was arriving - and then they trampled from the left bank, otherwise officers wiped their pants on dances

My father became a communist and received his first star in Stalingrad. They survived only a few people from two squadrons of the battalion.
Kolya Urengoysky decided to surpass. It is visible, white.

[Rostislav Bely]

It’s not for you to tell me about the Kolya Urengoy’s lop-eared - my father and brother remained there, and my father and my grandmother got shell shocks there ...
How old are you a mumunt that Gerasim did not drown?

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Rostislav Bely

It’s not for you to tell me about the Kolya Urengoy’s lop-eared - my father and brother remained there, and my father and my grandmother got shell shocks there ...
How old are you a mumunt that Gerasim did not drown?

That would not have dishonored them. Gossip.

[Rostislav Bely]

I wouldn’t do fake work on the couch - I told you what rumors were circulating among people, people were not happy with how the war came to them - the dead were not shameful, yours remained alive and immediately into the communists ...

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Rostislav Bely

I wouldn’t do fake work on the couch - I told you what rumors were circulating among people, people were not happy with how the war came to them - the dead were not shameful, yours remained alive and immediately into the communists ...

He will tell rumors. Oh well!
And the father. He was a true communist. Not white.

[Rostislav Bely]

The shtyovod recounted the asterisks - of the two trains on the left bank, he ate ...

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Rostislav Bely

The spyguide counted the asterisks - of the two trains on the left bank, it was eating up.

What does gossip say about benefits to communists at the front? I am proud of my father.

[Rostislav Bely]

You can be proud of a mammoth-fakeomet as much as you like - and I doubt that he was there on the right bank
And this letter came to Stalingrad to my grandmother about her husband killed in the offensive
from the archive of the Ministry of Defense of Russia - they were not communists, and they laid down their lives for us

[Was mammoth]

Respect and memory of Sergeant Bely A. Not his descendant, a boor with gossip.
Father fought for all 4 years, not counting wounds and shell shock. His four brothers lie near Moscow, Leningrad and Rostov. There are three more war invalids for a family.
So, what privileges did the communists have on the front? Can a couple of gossip?

[Rostislav Bely]

Alexander Petrovich is a specific person (and not some kind of mammoth), and these human beings knew how to fight - a sergeant (guards regiment), a separate commander (division commander) of the 1st machine gun company, thanks to him many remained alive, after the war they came to the widow ( volunteered together)
So be ashamed of your "muumunt" indistinctness like blah blah blah

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Rostislav Bely

So be ashamed of your "muumunt" indistinctness like blah blah blah

Disgrace further.
I will not spread the funeral, at least one of them is kept at home. I get it only on special occasions. Like the orders and medals of his father.

[Rostislav Bely]

You have long lowered yourself below the baseboard with your nickname - you are all God's dew ...

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Rostislav Bely

You have long lowered yourself below the baseboard with your nickname - you are all God's dew ...

Quote: There was a mammoth

Disgrace further.

[Rostislav Bely]

I see that they pulled an eye on the ass and wink ... the Internet will endure everything from anonymous

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Rostislav Bely

I see that they pulled an eye on the ass and wink ... the Internet will endure everything from anonymous

Oversleep.

[Rostislav Bely]

your indignant mind boils - like eagles forward, and I am behind you ...

[Rostislav Bely]

I don’t know about what they wanted to take, but didn’t - the assumption of Alexei Isaev ...
My grandmother, Maria Kondratyevna, was evacuating in Stalingrad, she said something - they themselves were in the Zaton area, where the Gomel Shipyard was evacuated - her husband volunteered in November 41, although he had a reservation - he came home and said that he could not watch (to lead) when women are tossing sledgehammers, and then they declared benefits to families for those who volunteer in case of death - in the 20th immediately after the revolution, the grandfather (born in 1902) passed an urgent, the rank of sergeant - then in the 41st junior command staff with experience ...
So they told:
1. The local population from the outskirts was not allowed to work at defense enterprises, only preferably evacuees, so to speak, there were "sympathizers" (sabotage / sabotage) who were waiting for the German. There were cases when the locals who sheltered the Germans harbored - as they said, "with a bayonet to the gate", and threw grenades at the house ... Isaev touched the edge of the local parliamentarians ...
2. When a German broke through to the Volga in winter, they hit him from the river with water - that’s how they froze off the coast (an isolated case, but they talked about it) ...
3. There were areas where both ours and the Germans were in the houses at the same time — the wrong ones could not advance, the lack of communications and the lack of ammunition. On the offensive, Katyusha was beaten in these areas - completely clearing the area - war ... therefore, probably according to the reports, they were listed as ours - they passed from hand to hand

[SASHA OLD]

Isaev has a whole series of videos about Stalingrad there, it was necessary to start the calculation from the first, in general I really like listening to him: a person almost lives in the archives, knows how to compare and analyze events, find out cause and effect relationships .. and all of this is calm without strain to tell

[Krasnoyarsk]

A. Isaev -
= We will directly say that when the Germans reached the Volga, Comrade Stalin was in prostration. =
Isaev personally observed Stalin's "prostration"?
After these words, I don't want to listen to Isaev. Because although he will bring some real facts from the history of the battle, he will consider them from his own "point of view." And his "angle of view" is shown by his phrase about the "prostration" of Stalin.
All these conjectures about "prostration" are so similar to the conjectures that on June 22 Stalin got scared, left for his dacha and did not receive anyone for three days. And when we looked at Stalin’s reception magazine in his Kremlin office, we saw that the number of visitors on June 22, 23, 24, 25 was off scale.
I am always amazed by the "historians" who say in their opuses - "Stalin thought ..." Where did you, cudgel, know what Stalin was thinking?

[Rostislav Bely]

I agree - this is from literature, not history - I mean "procrastination" - this is overkill ...
something was remembered about the hordes in the Wehrmacht stories)))

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Isaev personally observed Stalin's "prostration"?

Isaev personally observed the documents. Based on their content, he drew conclusions.

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

All these speculations about "prostration"

I wonder what your opinion is based on. In addition to faith in the leader.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Good_Anonymous

Isaev personally observed the documents. Based on their content, he drew conclusions.

You want to say that Isaev personally watched the conclusion of the medical board in which the psychiatrist concluded - prostration?

Quote: Good_Anonymous

I wonder what your opinion is based on. In addition to faith in the leader.

No, it's not about faith. The point is the results of Stalin’s activities - the country's industrialization as soon as possible under extremely unfavorable conditions and victory in the Second World War. Even this alone is enough to understand that this person never fell into prostration. Otherwise, he would not have taken place as a universally recognized leader on a global scale.

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

You want to say that Isaev personally watched the conclusion of the medical board in which the psychiatrist concluded - prostration?

I want to say that the word "prostration" was not used by Isaev as a diagnosis. Moreover, "prostration" is not a diagnosis at all.

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

I wonder what your opinion is based on. In addition to faith in the leader.

No, it's not about faith. The point is the outcome of activities

His activity lasted about 50 years and periodic falling into prostration would have gone unnoticed.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Good_Anonymous

I want to say that the word "prostration" was not used by Isaev as a diagnosis. Moreover, "prostration" is not a diagnosis at all.

Then what did he use this word for? What a clumsy attempt to justify Isaev.
= Prostration (lat. Prostratio, from lat. Prosterno) is an insufficiently clear medical concept indicating the extreme degree of exhaustion, relaxation, and decline in mental activity. It occurs with severe infectious diseases, poisoning, excessive exhaustion, after sudden nervous shocks. =
Stalin knew that war was inevitable; he was preparing the country for war. And when did it start he "fell into prostration"? Do you yourself believe that?

Quote: Good_Anonymous

His activity lasted about 50 years and periodic falling into prostration would have gone unnoticed.

The proposal is strangely constructed. "... the activity lasted for 50 years (?) and periodic (ie you even know that he periodically fell into prostration?) a fall into prostration would have gone unnoticed (but someone still noticed. Who?) Or was Isaev just noticed? Bravo!
... would pass unnoticed to anyone? Blind surrounded Stalin?

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Then what did he use this word for?

Based on the context - "loss of connection with the real situation at Stalingrad."

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Stalin knew that war was inevitable; he was preparing the country for war.

Why did you talk about the beginning of the war, if it was specifically about the situation near Stalingrad in the late summer of 1942? But if you want to talk about the inevitable: many inevitable things happen suddenly.

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Strangely constructed sentence.

I’ll reformulate it especially for you: Stalin’s activity lasted 50 years, and periodic falls into prostration (if any) would go unnoticed.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Good_Anonymous

Based on the context - "loss of connection with the real situation at Stalingrad."

Yes, that's what I understand. I do not understand the following; here the Germans crossed Don, Stalin was not in prostration, here the Germans rode across the steppes between the Don and Volga rivers, Stalin was not in prostration, and only the Germans went to the Volga and Stalin immediately - bang and in prostration. So?

Quote: Good_Anonymous

I’ll reformulate it especially for you: Stalin’s activity lasted 50 years, and periodic falls into prostration (if any) would go unnoticed.

= (if they were) = i.e. Do you also question Isaev’s statement?
Those. Do you think that it is more difficult to notice the "falling into prostration" if this "confluence" occurs periodically than if it happened once? Interesting thought, keep going.

[Herman 4223]

You don’t want to listen, but in vain. I've read his books and I can tell you that this historian is definitely not an anti-Stalinist. By the way, he also has a visit log in one of the books. By the way, he very well exposed the writer of the anti-adviser Viktor Suvorov. An interesting book of antisuvors, and he has a good book about Zhukov.

[TAMBU]

there are still prerequisites for the start of the battle of Stalingrad for another hour ...

[Ros 56]

As is well known, not only German divisions acted against the Soviet troops, but also the troops of Hungary, Italy, Romania, and Croatia.

All our current partners, no bottom for them, no tires.

[Connor MacLeod]

Here is a good Soviet cycle with the recollections of the participants - Zhukov, Vasilevsky, Eremenko, Chuykov everything there:

[nikvic46]

It so happened that in our quarter there were about a dozen participants in this Battle. Their memories were stingy. And many of them did not survive a dozen years after the war. My father only got to Stalingrad in early November. But one share was wounded and severe concussion. If this happened now, then it would all have been treated for at least a year. Then the terms were tightened. You can often hear that a person spent the whole war on the front line. Unfortunately, the length of stay on the front line narrowed to one or two weeks. We absorbed stories of war veterans. And let the young listen to torica.