The first launch of the Starliner spaceship from Boeing to the ISS ended abnormally

The first launch of the latest American manned spacecraft Starliner, developed by Boeing, ended in an emergency. The spacecraft entered orbit, but cannot start moving toward the ISS due to engine failure. This was reported by the press service of Boeing.

Boeing, on its Twitter page, said that Starliner’s spacecraft, developed by the company, was first launched unmanned to the ISS on Friday. The launch was made from the air base at Cape Canaveral in Florida using the Atlas V booster. The docking with the ISS is scheduled in a day.

Starliner has abnormally launched into orbit, but we control the ship. Management and control team evaluates next maneuver

- said in Boeing

In turn, NASA reported that the spacecraft was launched into space, it is in orbit, but cannot start moving toward the ISS, since "the engine did not turn on, which is necessary for approaching the ISS."

Starliner is in stable orbit, the ship’s batteries are in order, its solar panels are working

- said the head of NASA James Brydenstein.

The MCC in Houston confirmed the abnormal launch of the ship into orbit and reported that communication with the ship was not lost.

Earlier, Boeing said that after the unmanned flight of Starliner to the ISS, a flight with astronauts is planned, which should take place in 2020.

Note that today Roscosmos allocated for American astronauts two places on the Russian Soyuz for a flight to the ISS for 2020-2021.

Comments

[awdrgy]

About how With astronauts in 2020 I hope there will also be a connection)

[Mityay65]

Yes, that's interesting, but is it contemplated for them to have such a contingency? What will happen if the crew gets stuck in orbit? The Union has the opportunity to give a brake impulse to the orientation and mooring engines in case of failure of the main remote control.

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

They write that the on-board systems have performed a corrective impulse and are calculating further actions:

https://twitter.com/BoeingSpace/status/1208016786903457793

[hrych]

Ha ha ha Here you have it for general development. Impulse, yes, of course. With an idle engine docking ...

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

The head of NASA writes that they perform successful impulses and raise their orbits:

https://twitter.com/JimBridenstine/status/1208022591027462151

We continue to observe.

[hrych]

Follow us on twitter? No one will risk the station, and the transporter is not manned and will not go over to manual control. You need to drown, if possible.

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

Quote: hrych

Follow us on twitter?

Welcome to (without 10 days) 2020.

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

EVERYTHING, will not fly to the ISS.
The head of NASA said in a broadcast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg

[freejack]

EVERYTHING will not fly to the ISS

Horror!!! I understand ... Today your handshakes have real mourning and a full trampoline! Three striped mega-giants "NASA", "Boeing" and "Tesla" cannot win one wadded Russia (with its economy torn to shreds) since the 11th year (9 years!)
Rogozin's words become prophetic ...

[Shurik70]

And immediately I remember "the first flight of the Americans to the moon"
The script for this show was very interesting. The entire flight was accompanied by reports of emergency situations, which were instantly successfully resolved "on the knee" by the team on Earth, instructing the brave astronauts. For example, how to make a replacement for a failed filter out of socks. And so the whole flight.
Those who launched the Starliner ship are worthy apprentices of those showmen.
Personally, my opinion is engine problems are simulated so that they can be successfully overcome later, demonstrating American genius.

[freejack]

engine problems are simulated

Perhaps you are right, but it seems to me that private traders cannot, and the state (NASA) does not want (otherwise I can’t explain it)!
Their engines are ready, both ours and ours. Launcher with infrastructure is wonderful! For 9 years, it would have been possible to create some kind of double bed for such a dough !!!
Judge for yourself - Trump is now up to the missiles ??? And the parliament, which is knocked down on both hemispheres ?!

[orionvitt]

Quote: Shurik70

engine problems are simulated so that they can be successfully overcome later, demonstrating American genius

A technical genius is when everything works like a Swiss watch, clearly and smoothly. Their manned flight is scheduled for 2020. I wonder if there will be such "suicide bombers" who will agree to fly on a ship that constantly fails. And both Boeing and Musk.

[Shurik70]

Quote: orionvitt

A technical genius is when everything works like a Swiss watch, clearly and without failures.

But in such a flight there are no show elements.
Americans are a showman nation

Quote: orionvitt

will there be such "suicide bombers" that will agree to fly on a ship that is constantly failing

And here it is.
Even with a 50% chance (either survive or not)
And it will not even be idiots. These will be space fans.
Just because without real people who are ready to sacrifice themselves for the sake of others, no country can exist. Since the United States is still alive, such people are still there.

[Private-K]

And the problem turned out to be in electronics / automation - traditionally the strengths of the Americans.
"Houston, you're in trouble!"

[hrych]

Well, here we are couch experts were more insightful than Jim Brydenstein Although he certainly knew that the failure was immediate and final, he portrayed that he had missed a little. Anyway, our MCC (Tsylya, Ulya, Fields), even if the engines had earned, would have been forbidden to try to destroy the ISS with this unguided shell

[Slon379]

So the case turned up to try s500. If they insist on a risky dock.

[Mityay65]

I think Boeing has not given up yet. There is a lot that can be done: the valve may have frozen at the start, you should try to deploy the Starliner in the Sun and twist it to heat or shake it when opening and closing the solar panels.
Well, if the test flight program was not written by rams, then Starliner is in a low extremely unstable orbit and within a week or two it will descend and enter the atmosphere. In any case, the test.
You can try to shoot the aggregate compartment, you can try to give a brake impulse to the orientation engines ... there are options, in short.
Boeing guys are strong engineers, this is not a crowd of Mask hipsters, they can handle ...
PS But, apparently, in the future the cost of the seat to the ISS is still closer to $ 200 million than to 70, as the Holy One broadcast ...

[Vadim237]

If Musk had a crowd of hipsters in the space sphere, he wouldn’t fly at all and sit down.

[Blackmokona]

A crowd of hipsters in the spring of this year successfully passed the test, which is now failed Boeing

[Alex777]

The neighbor has a cow and all that ...

[Mestny]

This is not just a cow.
This is ... a megacow. The size of an elephant.

[poquello]

Quote: Mityai65

deploy Starliner in the Sun and spin to heat or shake it when opening and closing the solar panels.

... "try to wipe your forehead with a cloth and kick the wheels"

[Slon379]

Of course they will! We look forward to the release of the Hollywood blockbuster!

[Vadim237]

It will not be - there will be flights in reality.

[voyaka uh]

"The Boeing guys are strong engineers, this is not Musk's hipster crowd," ////
----
Strong engineers just ran to the Mask. And to Bezos. Boeing stagnated, from here
and slowness, and a strip of failures in recent years.
Boeing began to rely more on lobbying at NASA and the Pentagon than on
their engineers.

[Omskgasmyas]

Weren't these strong engineers equalizing the mask of the wunderwaf with a sledgehammer?

[Vadim237]

A stainless steel case - that does not need to be aligned with a sledgehammer.

[ak1978]

"Well, if the test flight program was not written by rams" - it was written by the Indians for three rupees.

[Boris Chernikov]

have already decided to return, they say they burned too much fuel in maneuvers

[Vadim237]

They simply descend from orbit and splash down into the ocean - a ship, it seems, is partially reusable. This certainly will not be a problem.

[Mityay65]

To do this, you must have an independent fuel system of the main remote control and auxiliary. How is done at Boeing, we do not know. Could and establish

[Vadim237]

This is a manned ship - there it should all be by definition.

[Mestny]

And suddenly!
It turns out!
That this is not easy at all.
Hello to Internet Experts and mascodre ... that is, to mascophiles of course.

[Vadim237]

This has all been worked out for a long time since the 60s - the conclusion of a process engineer.

[Starper-xnumx]

The ship entered orbit, but can not begin to move to the ISS due to engine failure

Ha ha ha ha rzhu I can’t .. Mask hello, sho for business?
You don’t know how to create your own latrines, manned ships have also been puffing for over a dozen years ..? Russia has already levied all sanctions in the hope that ours will run to you with technologies hehe
Houston on the verge of rule ..
Now our liberals will smear NASA, which is supposedly the most sophisticated technology, and not just the fact that the Russian people are in orbit .. It has already begun!
Oh guys, all this is funny .. Well, for the Russian Cosmos!

[Vadim237]

The first ten years - and 4 manned ships have already been made, only one Dragon 2 was successfully tested.

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

Quote: Starper-777

Ha ha ha ha rzhu I can’t .. Mask hello, sho for business?

Mask is now rubbing his hands happily, everything went smoothly on him in a similar unmanned flight to the ISS.

[Starper-xnumx]

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

Mask is now rubbing his hands happily, everything went smoothly on him in a similar unmanned flight to the ISS.

I hope he will be the first pilot in his "brainchild"?
The mask is directly razpiarali (or rather, he PR himself) ..
As the Jews say here, we need facts !!!!
When the first flight then finally .. wait tired already?

[poquello]

Quote: Graf56

The first flight of the Mask will be the last for Russia.

a sillier phrase you rarely find on the Internet

[Graf56]

Wait and see.
And back to this conversation.

[poquello]

Quote: Graf56

Wait and see.
And back to this conversation.

do not make people laugh, even if there are no commercial flights - Russia will not stop flying, but the option of a serious market loss is also unlikely because:
Once - dumping at Mask (in the USA)))))) is not endless, despite their currency machine, Two - not everything is measured by cheapness, Three - Russian science does not stand still.

[Starper-xnumx]

Quote: Graf56

Are you in such a hurry?

Yes, there are rushing things to do, how to create the ISS, so they fly at the expense of the Russians and shout at us (they are sanctioning us)))

Quote: Graf56

The first flight of the Mask will be the last for Russia.
Think about it.

And the end of the "bloody regime", as I understand it? he he he well you are a dreamer
Yes, you’re afraid of launching your manned ships .. Lost, you’re afraid ... That's it!

[Mestny]

No, this one is not there. Just a furious slave to American super civilization from the diggers of the seas.

[Slon379]

Oh, another one from the funeral home showed up!

[seregin-s1]

Starliner from Boeing, but still nice.

[U-58]

I see no reason to have fun and scuffle.
In space, an emergency.
And for this reason, a Toko illiterate shepherd like Kostya Potekhin may laugh.

[Kasym]

If there were astronauts on board, then yes. And so ... competition is competition. This is their "jamb", which had happened to Roskosmos, they would have rinsed 100%.

[orionvitt]

Quote: U-58

I see no reason to have fun and scuffle.
In space, an emergency.

What, someone dies? Just a reason to have some fun, remembering about the "gas station", "torn to shreds economy", "backward Russia" and so on. A great reason to laugh. I can say one thing, I'm happy with Boeing.

[U-58]

Well, do not forget about the trampoline)

[orionvitt]

Of course I will not forget. Due to the complete lack of success in the field of manned space exploration, in the last eight years (eight Karl), for Americans, the trampoline is now very relevant.

[major147]

Quote: awdrgy

About how With astronauts in 2020 I hope there will also be a connection)

Then their famous words to them: "Houston! We have a problem!" have to shout through the open porthole

[awdrgy]

It is "there is always a way out")

[Marconi41]

Quote: awdrgy

It is "there is always a way out")

That's for sure! There are always two exits, even if you are swallowed.

[Tsoy]

Quote: awdrgy

About how With astronauts in 2020 I hope there will also be a connection)

The problem is that the Boeing has already completely snickered. There is no result, constant transfers and schools, but they require more money than Space X. They were given half a billion more under the threat that they would generally quit the program for delivering people to the ISS. And as a result, someone incorrectly set the clock and there is already not enough fuel on the road to the ISS.

[Well done]

Does Starliner work on RD-180? If not, then it is clear why "freelance".

[Blackmokona]

The atlas with solid propellant boosters and the RD-180 and a centaur with two hydrogen engines worked properly and took the ship to its orbit, then the ship itself did not fly further.
But judging by the latest reports, the very first inclusion of Starliner engines was successful.

The spacecraft is currently in a safe and stable configuration. Flight controllers have completed a successful initial burn and are assessing next steps.

https://starlinerupdates.com/

[yfast]

And who are these lucky ones who will fly first?

[Starper-xnumx]

Quote: yfast

And who are these lucky ones who will fly first?

Russians will find .. hehe

[Prisoner]

They may not understand their happiness. Have to swaddle them in a ship to plant.

[Slon379]

This is not a problem, half of Ukraine is ready to commit suicide in return for the sake of staff. At the same time, they will spread Ukraine as a cosmic power. Zrada again.

[Mityay65]

Again comes the team of St. Ilona!
I believe that the stars and stripes before the year 25 will not begin to carry crews on the ISS independently.

[Blackmokona]

So Ilon was ahead, he has ongoing Boeing trials, in the spring of this year it ended completely successfully

[KCA]

Successfully successful, but how many more control launches will NASA require for all ships before the crew decides to land them? On the one hand, show off and prestige, and on the other, after the catastrophes with shuttles, they will not forgive another catastrophe with the victims, they will tear it apart like an ace warmer

[Blackmokona]

So according to the schedule, one flight from each. SpaceX completed their own in the spring of this year, Boeing failed here.

[KCA]

After one test flight, a business jet with passengers will never fly, but here is one flight straight and everyone agrees on everything? Yes, even if NASA allows it, astronauts will have to be recruited from the terminally ill, only they will fly for insurance

[Blackmokona]

The shuttle generally flew manned from the first flight and nothing.

[Mityay65]

The shuttle killed 14 people ... and was almost useless, since there were no strong politicians to stop the disgrace - insanely expensive (each flight cost $ 0,5 billion in the mid-90s) and senseless flights ...

[Blackmokona]

Only the Shuttle will launch into space more people than the entire USSR.

[Mityay65]

Only he took "tourists" there without meaningful tasks and goals. It was a political show - everybody look how cool and good we are Yankees, we have 7 people in orbit, everybody love us. They just sat there - they were flying and trying to eeonomize the energy. A minimum of experiments and operations. They drove teachers, sheikhs, camel-drivers, farmers ...
Whether business at the same time at Salute-7 and the World! Experiments, reconnaissance, laser pistols, welding, assembly of structures, extra long flights, the study of physiology in zero gravity - this is a cosmic drive I understand ..

[Blackmokona]

Of course, tourists who, for example, fixed the Hub, collected the ISS and did another mountain of other work

[Mityay65]

Quote: BlackMokona

for example, fixed the Hub

As for Hubble, the question is, at what cost?
The cost of the Hubble telescope is $ 2,5 billion, and the cost of its four repairs has cost a total of $ 3,5 billion. The question is, was it not cheaper to launch a new Hubble than to entrust this business to an insanely expensive shuttle? At the Soyuz spacecraft everything would be much cheaper ...

Quote: BlackMokona

collected by the ISS

This is a fantasy.

Quote: BlackMokona

made another mountain of other work

As for the mountain made ... listen, they couldn’t even work out and develop a normal como-bathroom? For all flights?
I always wondered why the Shuttle astronauts wear special diapers ...
I suspect that the mountain of used "space" diapers is the whole result of the shuttle mission ... well, and a memorial to 14 crew members ...

[Blackmokona]

There was a bathroom at the Chatelet. Well, read at least about the subject of conversation.

[Mityay65]

The shuttle had a great bathroom ... It was the shuttle astronauts who adopted the term fecal popcorn. Do you know why? The shuttle's bathroom had a custom of throwing out the contents in a stream, which in zero gravity broke into a fine suspension, squirmed and creaked on the teeth of the brave shuttle astronauts. I had to apply bandages on my face - otherwise it would get a suspension of stuff in my mouth and nose. It was impossible to eat, the faecal popcorn creaked on their teeth .. It got to the point that some crew members refused to eat and went hungry!
Feces covered the entire interior upholstery and instruments with thin layers - after all, weightlessness, everything shatters. Then everything dried up - the smell was gorgeous.
Evil tongues say that the first Negro got into the crew of the shuttle precisely after such an event - a permanent bathroom cleaner was needed
Google, everything is on the Internet. Informative.

[Blackmokona]

About popcorn this is for the Apollo, I advise you to get acquainted with the question

[Mityay65]

I can understand everything - and misanthropy, and trolling for the soul, and a love of banknotes ..
But why so stupidly lie?
Nowadays, even homeless people have an Internet at the Kursk station, everything can be checked ...
You need to troll thinner. Take into account the experience of previous projects, develop.

[Cyer]

The cost of the Hubble telescope is $ 2,5 billion, and the cost of its four repairs cost a total of $ 3,5 billion. The question is, wasn’t it cheaper to launch a new Hubble than to charge this insanely expensive shuttle?

Thanks to these repairs, the Hubble has been successfully operating for 29 years, and its descent from orbit is scheduled as early as 20130. As a result, it will operate for 40 years.

At the Soyuz spacecraft everything would be much cheaper ...

- yeah, that's why Soyuz cannot do most of what the Shuttle could do.

This is a fantasy.

- this is out of the rage of reality. With the help of the Shuttles, all modules of the American, European and Japanese segments, a Canadian robotic arm, trusses and solar panels, as well as - oh my god - the Russian module Rassvet were launched into orbit.

As for the mountain made ... listen, they couldn’t even work out and develop a normal como-bathroom?

- a fun way to jump from one topic (the work done by the Shuttle) to a completely different one, which has nothing to do with the Shuttles.

[Cyer]

descent from orbit is already scheduled for 20130

for 2030, I apologize for the typo.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Von Braun was watching over there. German pedantry.

[72jora72]

Yes, even if NASA allows, astronauts will have to recruit from terminally ill

I propose to allocate them for testing Mutko with Zhukov and responsible for turning on Medvedev’s engines.

[Mityay65]

I don’t know why you are writing this. In April, Dragon Crew exploded in front of YouTube cameras. NASA is afraid to mess with Mask, everyone knows that. And will never agree to send people to Dragon. Americans write about this in their blogs and forums in their American language.

[Blackmokona]

In general, the current date of the manned flight Dragon-2 is set for February 2020.

[Mityay65]

Will Ilon fly this time?
Try to dissuade him from suicide!

[Blackmokona]

Two NASA astronauts, they have been preparing for the flight for a long time

[Mityay65]

Well, again, Dragon Crew NOT CERTIFIED NASA Only Ilon and a group of true believers in Him can fly on it ...
If you say halva ten times, it will not become sweeter in your mouth.

[Blackmokona]

You are mistaken, certified, that means everything has already been verified and the test flight with astronauts was completely successful

[ak1978]

The capsule flied once. When trying to refurbishing - exploded. Total - manned ship (so far) no. Perhaps it will not, because all these reusable toys once again prove their prohibitive cost.

[Vadim237]

In fact, nothing shows how many people died in the 60s during the landing of manned ships, the test experience will not be superfluous, and the fact that Dragon 2 had a fire in the fuel system during tests is excellent, the valve problem was also solved from a technological point of view In view of this accident has become useful, perhaps in the future knowledge of it will save tens and hundreds of lives.

[ak1978]

We have lost one. Mosquitoes. Then three more. But this is already the 70s. Apparently Brezhnev still appreciated human lives. At the expense of the valve. It's not about him. The point is in design. The crew flies for the sake of a penny and the main thing is to sit on a heptyl barrel with motors. Here the problem is not in a particular valve but in-person, hateful design. Well in the world of chistogan this is normal. Alabama women still give birth to astronauts.

[Cyer]

The crew flies for a penny

- Where does the information about "penny autonomy" come from?

[Cyer]

Saving, sorry.

[ak1978]

See how much time it takes to rebuild and the simple cargo version of the Dragon and calculate with a minimum space charge in the space industry of $ 60K per year.

[Cyer]

See how long it takes to rebuild and the simple cargo version of the Dragon

- where to look?

[ak1978]

Wikipedia Infa is open.

[However, dear]

Quote: BlackMokona

In general, the current date of the manned flight Dragon-2 is set for February 2020.

And 9 out of 10 were eliminated. They are against the approved launch date! 6th chamber ...

[Cyer]

In April, Dragon Crew exploded in front of YouTube cameras. NASA is afraid to mess with the Mask, everyone knows it

well, he’s so afraid of contacting him that he trusts both the delivery of cargo to the ISS and the development of a manned spacecraft)) Ohhh, he’s very afraid - they still know)

[Well done]

Yeah ... "St. Mask" is still a fruit! "Tesla" burn like gunpowder, shot at Mars - and then a miss, "reusable" rocket stages drowned (and detonated) innumerable! But still a billionaire. He also has excellent bulletproof glasses.

[Blackmokona]

Yes Musk is the same Tesla fruit the first place in the world in sales of electric vehicles, leads the market of commercial launches, more than 50 consecutive successful launches of its own space rocket, etc.

[Vadim237]

But everything flies, it works - and there are orders for all this.

[donavi49]

Well, with Tesla, now all the chiki farts. Those who entered 200 are now idle with Don Perignon and are asking their own island in warm seas.

[ak1978]

At the bazaar there are still not such "tricks". Tesla is certainly no longer a curiosity, but the mass sedan segment is the Toyota Corolla and analogues. All the same, $ 40K for an electric toy only makes sense in Cali and NYC, where gasoline is 5 bucks. And even then it is not clear what will happen to its long-term operation and secondary housing.

[Lord of the Sith]

If the engines do not turn on, then the Khan’s ship.

Stalled as an old Lada on the rise))

[Petrix]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Stalled as an old Lada on the rise))

Clearly with carb problems. In space, an injector is still better.

[kit88]

Yeah.
Danila does not get a stone flower.
So what do you say, how many seats do you need there in the Unions?

[Vadim237]

This is Boeing’s recent jamb on the cassique.

[Recon]

I read a couple of news sites right now, what a joyful hum went up .. which, however, is not surprising. What's the point? There is no point in gloating now and pouring mud on the "damned merikos", we ourselves with space, to put it mildly, not everything is smooth. They will finish this Starliner, they will not go anywhere. I'm much more concerned about my garden.

[aries2200]

wisely ...........

[slipped]

Quote: Recon

I’m much more worried about my garden.

And we have just successfully brought out a new European telescope from our "garden", the quasiplanets will be counted:

and three days later, another, already ours, satellite on the GSO, deduces:

and next month we are deploying the "space internet":



Routine however.

[Recon]

Well duck is gorgeous! I am only glad and immensely proud of my country.

[Kerensky]

Interestingly, what can be done in this case? Reset hot?

[Blackmokona]

If the ship is in a stable orbit, there is communication and electricity. That at least rewrite all the software. A lot of options. If the orbit, as they say, is unstable, then you need to restart very quickly and fly at least somewhere.

[Kerensky]

If the orbit, as they say, is unstable, then you need to restart very quickly and fly at least somewhere.

Sorry. The thing is good, people tried. Hopefully still dock.

[Blackmokona]

In an extreme case, it can always go for a landing. Then they will fix it on Earth, put it on another rocket and send it back into space. Will be a lesson

[Rzzz]

If there is a valve jammed that gives kerosene to the motor, then at least correspond with the software, without a person with a mallet (conditional) and a replacement valve in the spare parts business will not work.

[Blackmokona]

It’s just not right time set on the clock. But they have already burned a bunch of fuel, so they will fly and test, and then they will sit down. But they will not be able to the ISS

[aries2200]

space is not Hollywood .....

[Vadim237]

Hollywood for all the time of its existence has not made a single normal film about space.

[Fraracol_2]

Already Gravity and Interstellar cannot be compared with our miserable crafts.

[Marconi41]

Gravity is beautifully shot. Space Americans shoot nobly. Our two answers look faded compared to them. Not the movie itself, but the graphics.

[Vadim237]

The first cosmotresh, the second cosmoidiotism, but at least the second graph of the black hole had a beautiful and even musical accompaniment at the level.

[Slon379]

Duck with such an experience of filming, yet on the moon they even shot)))

[Basarev]

Well, what's wrong with that? This is the cosmos, it cannot be completely imitated on Earth, and an unforeseen flaw has been revealed. In addition, the test launch, without load and people, that is, just aimed at testing the behavior of the ship in space. And in this sense, engine failure is the planned result, because the task of the tests is to identify the shortcomings in order to modify the ship. So we would not laugh at the Americans, who are still trying, move the space program, but look closely at their junk and megacorruption in this area.

[Blackmokona]

We have already found out the reason for the refusal. Wrong time set on the ship. This is pure curvature.

[Lontus]

Quote: BlackMokona

We have already found out the reason for the refusal. Wrong time set on the ship. This is pure curvature.

Well, that's it !! It’s good that they found out !!
Now people can be safely sent to it in space !!

[Blackmokona]

If Boeing does not drag through the lobby, then you still have to fly a second time.

[Slon379]

Well, at least now they found out who worked with RUSADA files. There is the same jamb with time and date! SK do not sleep!

[Lontus]

Yeah, they flew to the moon 50 years ago!

But now the more difficult task is to simply put a person into the orbit of the Earth!
Progress is unstoppable !!

[Blackmokona]

Of course, the shuttles did not exist.

[Fraracol_2]

Are you jealous? Can't sleep?

[Vadim237]

Do not worry about them so much, they will definitely bring out new manned spacecraft and interplanetary research stations, modules, etc. - but whether Russia will bring out its new ships and interplanetary stations is a big question, here the "Science" module has already rusted from waiting for a flight, but the campaign is not what flight he will not wait.

[Cyer]

Yeah, the moon of the USSR explored 60 years ago. And now Russia cannot send a banal AMS to it.

Catch an analogy?

And here's another one. Yeah, the USSR launched the super-heavy rocket Energia, but now the Angara cannot. Progress is unstoppable!

[ak1978]

Again Indians outsourced software for CNC writing ...

[sevryuk]

Those who wrote for the Boeing 737 max

[ak1978]

Yeah. Let's just say - I know the office personally. It .......... . In general, there is no longer any IT in the States. Everywhere is a Hindu mafia that brings goatblocks from mountain villages under the guise of programmers. So divide all states by 100.

[Amateur]

Graf56 (Vladimir) Today, 16:40
Only it may very well be that we are laughing for the last time.
Today, the Boeing Corporation's Starliner CST-100 has successfully launched to the ISS. And this, for a moment, is a seven-seater comfortable ship. Let's see, of course, the docking, anything can happen.
But in any case, SpaceX Crew Dragon Mask has already successfully docked.
A few more months, from the strength of the year - and the flights will become manned.
And then what remains for us? With whom will we sign bonded agreements?
The fact is that the Mask ships and Boeing companies are new. That's the problem. These are new developments. With tremendous potential.
What do we have? The Royal Seven? The product is reliable. But it is older, from the last century. And there is nothing new ...

Oh, they are not good! The man on them hoped that they would "wipe out" the Russian cosmonautics, and they

nose again, but in de ... about (M.I. Kutuzov, the truth about the French)

[rocket757]

It happens ... you have to wait and see how it all ends.

[Vadim237]

Most likely it will end with the fact that Dragon 2 and Orion will receive certificates.

[gnoieigw]

Quote: Vadim237

Most likely it will end with the fact that Dragon 2 and Orion will receive certificates.

- Here we are talking about Starliner. And he, most likely, will also receive a certificate. Dragon2 is likely to win, and Spacex will receive most of the contracts. Orion - for lunar missions. But Starliner will fly a little bit - Americans usually don’t put all their eggs in one basket.

[rocket757]

Quote: Vadim237

Most likely it will end with the fact that Dragon 2 and Orion will receive certificates.

This is their business. I don’t look so deep.
I believe that the Yankees, when they begin to do everything IN MIND, they should succeed.
Resources, technology, PEOPLE ... everything is there!
A song, perhaps they should sing "Don't play the fool America ......!"
Their problems are completely alien to me, I just can’t understand, but what happened to them ???

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: rocket757

Yankees, when they start to do everything

They have a different understanding of “mind is not mind”.
Victor, salute!

[rocket757]

Quote: bouncyhunter

They have a different understanding of "mind is not mind"

Hello pasha
There is now something to joke with the Yankees about their mental health, in some cases, there are doubts!
BUT! It is unreasonable to discard such a big POWER. It really hurts a lot where they are tied up, specifically and for a long time.
So I'm trying to understand, imagine what is going on there?

[bouncyhunter]

Vit, no one is discounting the "valiant" USA. I'll tell you more - this is the biggest threat to the planet.

Quote: rocket757

So I'm trying to understand, imagine what is going on there?

Boiling the boiler, followed by detonation. I can’t predict the consequences ...

[rocket757]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Boiling the boiler, followed by detonation.

Boilers protect / save in various ways!
there are safe, albeit unpleasant ... blow off the whistle!

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: rocket757

blow off the whistle!

Vit, and not in the HOOT ???

[rocket757]

No, the hooter is something working, connected with the proletariat!
A whistle, he is a whistle in Africa.

[bouncyhunter]

In this case: a whistle-ibn-hoot.

[rocket757]

Quote: bouncyhunter

In this case: a whistle-ibn-hoot.

Okay, let the poison through the valve, The world will not survive too long their whistle!

[bouncyhunter]

To twist, so they already poison through spools, hoopoes are uncompressed ...

[rocket757]

It went wrong with them, for some reason. Previously, couples to the highway and to work .... forgot how.

[bouncyhunter]

Rear-wheel drive is not a blessing. Get out (sorry!) Backwards ...

[gnoieigw]

https://twitter.com/BoeingSpace/status/1208040386528194560

They write that they can return it to the ground at any time within 48 hours, but they plan to conduct as many tests as possible before that.

[orsker]

Trampoline of the wrong system!

[donavi49]

The trampoline worked properly.

There are already problems in breeding. That is, the Boeing (or its contractors) jammed.

This is the NASA chapter version:
Because #Starliner believed it was in an orbital insertion burn (or that the burn was complete), the dead bands were reduced and the spacecraft burned more fuel than anticipated to maintain precise control. This precluded @Space_Station rendezvous.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: BlackMokona

The shuttle generally flew manned from the first flight and nothing.

And, even without a crew rescue system in case of an accident .... They have good laws and trade unions. Having only two points for the landing of this engine. If suddenly there is something upstairs to happen, wait in orbit for 2 hours until the possibility of descent approaches.
Here, like in a fire, either on a barbecue, or jump from the top. Choose what you like, slowly and painfully, or quickly .... and painfully.

[Vadim237]

How do you imagine the rescue system on ships like the Shuttle, so that it could save the crew from accidents on take-off, in space and upon landing.

[Akim]

At least the same as was developed and adopted by the military acceptance of SAS for Buran, designed to save the crew on take-off up to 40 km

[Vadim237]

As practice has shown, this system alone is not enough.

[Mityay65]

There were many ideas. There is no integrated SAS "on takeoff, in space and upon landing" and probably will not be with any ship. But at the take-off sites, the proposals were announced.
Individual ejection seats, a fully salvageable crew cabin, a hatch with a special bar for emergency escape from the ship, this is from memory.
But, in connection with a sober assessment of the speed of emergency processes of solid fuel accelerators (explosion) and the LOx-LH tank (call), they decided not to introduce anything special. The failure of the remote control in most cases made it possible to make an emergency landing of the entire ship. As a result, only a hatch with a barbell was introduced, which made it possible to leave the ship by parachute under certain conditions, but as the Yankees themselves said, this is more to reassure the public.

[Vadim237]

For spacecraft intended for interplanetary flights, such duplicate rescue systems will be required.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Oops ... The loss of competency is expanding.

[Starper-xnumx]

Why isn’t Israel seeking space? .. so straight modest .. hehe

[gnoieigw]

Quote: Starper-777

Why isn’t Israel seeking space? .. so straight modest .. hehe

- Aims, it's just not the first priority. Nevertheless, I just recently tested my own engine, which allows us to display satellites of a larger mass.

https://topwar.ru/165538-v-tegerane-obvinili-izrail-v-ispytanii-jadernoj-rakety-nacelennoj-na-iran.html

[Starper-xnumx]

Quote from gnoieigw

- Aims, it's just not the first priority. Nevertheless, I just recently tested my own engine, which allows us to display satellites of a larger mass.

Do you understand me assigned to ..? What are you telling me from the wiki here all the time with the video .. hehe
Are they paying well?
Aron in my PM also accumulates what kind of Jews are good and smart ..)))) I don’t look, to be honest ..
I prefer a lively conversation

[Ros 56]

I remember today someone tweeted that all the front lines were done by striped, ha ha ha.

[Vadim237]

And how does the test flight of the spacecraft relate to your conclusion? For comparison, the Americans flew on: Apollos, on the Shuttles, and now they will fly on Dragon 2, Orion, perhaps the analogue of Bohr that they are completing now, and ours only flew on the Unions, and Oryol only in 5 years it will fly, and even that can be.

[Mityay65]

Thanks to capitalist anarchy, a thriving gigantic economy, despite the waste of gigantic resources and efforts, cannot catch up for decades in space with a choking backward economy that has almost no means of bare enthusiasm, submits to clearly set goals, strict planning and firm leadership?

[Vadim237]

What they have not been able to catch up with us in space for decades - almost all of the distant space missions are American, the largest orbiting telescope is American, American rovers, the world's first reusable first stage rockets American, the only superheavy rocket currently in operation is the first American reusable methane rocket delivered to an American series - unfortunately Russia can’t boast of anything of this except by space transport and the sale of RD 180 - they have already made four manned spacecraft, two launched into space, we barely barely make tests of new missiles constantly pushing back their super-gravity in the best case after 10 years. Rosatom is creating a nuclear power generation reactor, but when it will be in space is a big question.

[Ros 56]

Well, our Shuttle-Buran even flew by itself, which would give a head start on the striped ones, and they put a lot of people there. I am not reproaching, but stating a fact. Yes, and with space stations we somehow came ahead, as far as I remember that Apollo was fastened to the Salute, and not the Union to the striped. I would have looked at them, had the states experienced what we have experienced over the past thirty years. There would be nothing left of them. So it's not evening yet.

[Cyer]

Well, our Shuttle-Buran even flew by itself, which would already give odds to striped

- and what is the meaning of the possibility of a fully automatic flight for a ship intended for manned flights?

Yes, and they put the people there

- they brought out a robust design - more than the USSR / Russia for the entire existence of the Russian manned space program.

as far as I remember this Apollo was fastened to the Salute, and not the Union to the striped

- remember badly. Salyut is an orbital station, while Apollo docked with Soyuz.

[Starper-xnumx]

Quote: Ros 56

I remember today someone tweeted that all the front lines were done by striped, ha ha ha.

Such a flood here is constantly driven into the brains of us all .... We all understand the old ones, but the youth absorbs it all like a sponge ...

[Ros 56]

So, it is necessary to start upbringing from the kindergarten and it is imperative to introduce censorship on all educational products for children (history and literature textbooks, toys, etc.). Let anything whine in the West, these are our children, and heaps should not grow out of them. The GDP itself speaks clearly and clearly, the main ideology is patriotism, so what is the matter of the comrade guarantor, why the bureaucrats of the region do not see, and the sensible boy or girl cannot, due to finances, play hockey or other sports. And then it comes around.

[Starper-xnumx]

Quote: Ros 56

so what's the matter, comrade guarantor, why the bureaucrats of the land don’t see,

And that means sho Mikhalych .. hehe
Power needs to be changed? "Bloody regime" ....
Won Khodorkovsky dreams of returning and spends all his looted capital .. hehe
Berezovsky also dreamed of returning from London, but with Abramovich began to sue for the assets of Russia .. Lost)))))

[anjey]

Houston, we have problems, we’ll have to bow to these Russians again

[Starper-xnumx]

Quote: anjey

Houston, we have problems, we’ll have to bow to these Russians again

Had a bow? And they are insolent to us for this, they also spit in the face and curse .. And we are silent and bow to them (they pay .. hehe)
But in essence they need to be sent, as with the Olympics ..
Too much is tied to power in the West and there are many children there with big bills .. But we have one goal (the people of Russia) to survive, but it’s better not to live to retire and die young, but in battle ..!

[bbtcs]

More spaceships, good and different!
What happened to the Boeing is unfortunate.
And do not give places. Let them move, otherwise they’re tired of waiting.

[bbtcs]

Quote: Ros 56

ha ha ha

Are you for space or against?

[Ros 56]

I am for clever patriots, nevors, and the rest will follow.

[Piramidon]

Quote: bbtcs

Are you for space or against?

He is for the international.

[bbtcs]

Quote: Ros 56

I am for clever patriots, nevors, and the rest will follow

Will not follow. I do not know what these patriots need. So let them fly more and more into space. Perhaps at least someone will fly!

[Piramidon]

Management and control team evaluates next maneuver

Well, if the station is not gouged.

[Cyer]

Well, if the station is not gouged.

- the Americans have never had any problems with the "gouging" of orbital stations. But the USSR and Russia did.

[Piramidon]

Quote: CyER

Well, if the station is not gouged.

- the Americans have never had any problems with the "gouging" of orbital stations. But the USSR and Russia did.

Who does not work, he is not mistaken. How many Americans had their stations and who provides the station with everything you need? After all, the Papuans also do not have air crashes and accidents.

[zlinn]

the station is provided with everything necessary by 75% Americans and Japanese and 25% by Russians

[Piramidon]

Quote: zlinn

the station is provided with everything necessary by 75% Americans and Japanese and 25% by Russians

Over the entire period of the ISS, the Americans carried out 72 flights to it, the Japanese - 8, the Europeans - 5, Russia - 140. Now, calculate the percentages.

[zlinn]

and you count in tons and not pieces.

[Piramidon]

Quote: zlinn

and you count in tons and not pieces.

And you read the initial post to which I replied. It was about the number of emergency situations when approaching the ISS.

[Mavrikiy]

The spacecraft entered orbit, but cannot start moving toward the ISS due to engine failure.

The Chinese cut down their microcircuit with a bookmark.

[K-50]

Russia is to blame, definitely.
In general, the engines of the wrong system.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Vadim237

How do you imagine the rescue system on ships like the Shuttle, so that it could save the crew from accidents on take-off, in space and upon landing.

And I have no idea. Because I didn't design this crap. Launching ballast in 60 tons, and wrestle with the problem of releasing it from there .. A week's resource. No energy. No prospects for modernization. The carrier is cruelly (just like that!) Tied to the shuttle, and, unlike the Buran, it cannot be used separately and with another ship. "Energy" can carry not only "Buran", but, after not so expensive modification (centering), can carry any other load on its head.

[Vadim237]

Buran-Energy was a mistake, unlike the Shuttle system, we spent a huge rocket on launch, which in itself was a significant waste, for me M 19, Tu 2000, Bor were much more promising.

[Nick]

Yes, training however ...

[Vadim237]

It is not necessary to throw your feces on me, it is your friends, acquaintances in the Central Committee of the party who put a lot of hell on cosmonautics, after the failure of H 1 and flights to the moon, both manned and research, the Soyuz remained and the World was de-orbited due to an emergency , and then while we were poking around with Angara like a bolt from the blue in the United States, a private trader burst into the space sphere and gave a start to similar offices around the world, and at that time all our rocket scientists and guys from the Academy of the Russian Academy of Sciences argued that there can be no private space, they started to merge all our reusable systems: Baikal, Clipper air launch and everything else on this now we have what we have, the "prestige" of our space has been added by a numerous series of emergency launches, one with the launch of the Union.

[Vlad5307]

Quote: Kerensky

If the orbit, as they say, is unstable, then you need to restart very quickly and fly at least somewhere.

Sorry. The thing is good, people tried. Hopefully still dock.

A device with an unreliable control system cannot be docked - it is fraught with even greater problems, possibly with the crew of the station itself.

[Zeev Zeev]

Well, now about flight without politics. Due to engine failure at the right time (which happened due to incomprehensible changes right before the start), the flight program was changed and instead of docking with the ISS, Plan B is launched and now a two-day orbital flight is planned.

[Azazelo]

I read 30 comments about Rogozin not a word, how so ????

[Procopius Nesterov]

It’s good that without the astronauts, it would have turned out quite ugly. It was alive to die of starvation in space.

[zlinn]

but today we know. that the ship returned and boarded softly. maybe nothing would happen to the crew

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Vadim237

As practice has shown, this system alone is not enough.

And whom did this ONLY ONE system fail? You weave heresy without looking back, man. Apparently, you are not imprisoned for another.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Mityai65

There were many ideas. There is no integrated SAS "on takeoff, in space and upon landing" and probably will not be with any ship. But at the take-off sites, the proposals were announced.
Individual ejection seats, a fully salvageable crew cabin, a hatch with a special bar for emergency escape from the ship, this is from memory.
But, in connection with a sober assessment of the speed of emergency processes of solid fuel accelerators (explosion) and the LOx-LH tank (call), they decided not to introduce anything special. The failure of the remote control in most cases made it possible to make an emergency landing of the entire ship. As a result, only a hatch with a barbell was introduced, which made it possible to leave the ship by parachute under certain conditions, but as the Yankees themselves said, this is more to reassure the public.

The cynicism of this approach ..... Any measures are needed covering the most risky part of the technique. Start. A smooth flight in orbit - providing the possibility of descent in ANY place, the only condition is landing on land. Or in an instantly reached area, for example, off the coast. When reduced, undocking from a large mass of the ship and descent into the capsule, which is inhibited, due to its low mass, by the parachute system.
To reassure the public and the astronauts themselves by the fact that, they say, we are not able to come up with .... Some cannibalism.

[Cyer]

Nice slap on the Boeing. There is nothing to eat off your face if you are applying for the status of one of the most advanced aerospace corporations.

I hope that they will draw the right conclusions and, along with the Mask, make normal spaceships.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: BlackMokona

Only the Shuttle will launch into space more people than the entire USSR.

... and killed more people than everyone else combined.

And that's just 135 flights. High-speed meat grinder.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: ak1978

At the bazaar there are still not such "tricks". Tesla is certainly no longer a curiosity, but the mass sedan segment is the Toyota Corolla and analogues. All the same, $ 40K for an electric toy only makes sense in Cali and NYC, where gasoline is 5 bucks. And even then it is not clear what will happen to its long-term operation and secondary housing.

This should be observed when operating conditions are equal. They will remove the benefits from the "green" energy of postscripts and deception, they will not charge cars free of charge, subsidized from the budget ....

[Victor March 47]

Quote: CyER

Nice slap on the Boeing. There is nothing to eat off your face if you are applying for the status of one of the most advanced aerospace corporations.

I hope that they will draw the right conclusions and, along with the Mask, make normal spaceships.

Competitors? For a couple? It is not yet known why something from one or the other falls off schedule.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Procopius Nesterov

It’s good that without the astronauts, it would have turned out quite ugly. It was alive to die of starvation in space.

You are a humanist. So long let them live up there. Air, temperature, dehydration kill faster. More precisely, the lack thereof.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Vadim237

Buran-Energy was a mistake, unlike the Shuttle system, we spent a huge rocket on launch, which in itself was a significant waste, for me M 19, Tu 2000, Bor were much more promising.

Buran-Energy was a political move, and adjusted for the possibility of using Energy separately from Buran, which was impossible to do with the amers.
A sort of rehabilitation after an accident N-1. Made with brilliance. And they proved to them that placing weapons on reusable weapons is available not only to them. That not only they will be able to remove from orbit what is needed. And what caused the closure of many programs using the Shuttle as a military facility. For we, too, are not bast shoes .... And, at the end, ends, (coupled with accidents) forced them to throw trillions of dough into the toilet.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Vadim237

For spacecraft intended for interplanetary flights, such duplicate rescue systems will be required.

What are you? Salvation on the way to Mars? Or on the way back?

Rescue systems are NECESSARY, first of all, on ANY starting ship. Wherever he takes off. And in flight, especially interplanetary .... The only possible way is to send a group of ships, in tight formation and with small crews. To ensure the placement of several crews in one ship, if that. The economy will not allow this for a very long time.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Vadim237

And how does the test flight of the spacecraft relate to your conclusion? For comparison, the Americans flew on: Apollos, on the Shuttles, and now they will fly on Dragon 2, Orion, perhaps the analogue of Bohr that they are completing now, and ours only flew on the Unions, and Oryol only in 5 years it will fly, and even that can be.

However, how socialism crippled you. With an enormous amount of non-sales plans and headlines of the Pravda newspaper. Have completely lost the coast. You take promises as results.
And as long as the result is so far, none of their ships has an effective emergency rescue system, and on this basis they cannot carry people.
Further. Of course, I could be mistaken, but I think that the existing and unverified rescue system on the Dragon, when the separation from the emergency ship is made by regular engines located directly at the lower stage, will repeat the situation with the accident when the upper stage engines did not turn on normally and set fire to the bottom.
Our emergency engines are at the top, on a high bar and cannot do this.

[Cyer]

Our emergency engines are at the top, on a high bar and cannot do this.

- The SAS "Soviet type" was used by the Americans on the "Mercury" (a few years before the "Soyuz") and "Apollo" - you would know this if you knew even a little about the issue.