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Russia will provide the United States with additional seats on the Soyuz for flight to the ISS

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Russia will provide the United States with additional seats on the Soyuz for flight to the ISS

Russia will provide American astronauts with two seats on Russian manned spacecraft Soyuz-MS for flights to the ISS in 2020 and 2021. The corresponding decision today, December 20, was made at Roskosmos. This was announced by the general director of the state corporation Dmitry Rogozin.


According to Rogozin, Roscosmos decided in principle to provide NASA astronauts with two places on the Russian Soyuz for their delivery to the ISS in 2020 and 2021.

We made a fundamental decision to provide NASA with space on our spacecraft for flights to the ISS. While they requested two seats at the end of 2020 - the spring of 2021

- he said.

Information that the United States requested additional seats from Russia appeared at the end of October this year. Then the state corporation reported that the head of NASA Brydenstein sent a letter to Roscosmos asking for additional seats on the Russian Soyuz in 2020-2021 due to delays in the program of building American ships to deliver astronauts to the ISS. In response to this, Rogozin said that this requirement violates Russia's plans, but a decision will be made.

In early October, the head of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), James Brydenstein, said the United States did not intend to refuse to cooperate with Roscosmos to deliver astronauts to the ISS, despite the fact that “you have to pay for every place.”

Recall that in the framework of the program for the resumption of manned flights in the United States, new manned spacecraft have been developed: Crew Dragon by SpaceX and Starliner by Boeing. After conducting unmanned and manned flights to the ISS, they are expected to be certified by NASA and further used to deliver astronauts into orbit. While it is not known which ship it will be - Crew Dragon or Starliner, clarity will come only on the results of test flights.

Earlier in the United States, it was announced that the first manned flight of American astronauts on their own ship is planned for the 2020 year.
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  1. Sayan
    Sayan 20 December 2019 14: 54
    +6
    Have arranged a pancake a camomile - we will not give, we will give
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 20 December 2019 15: 01
      +12
      Quote: Sayan
      Have arranged a pancake a camomile - we will not give, we will give

      Accidentally discovered an extra ticket! lol Or someone did not buy the reservation ... wassat
      1. Vyacheslav Viktorovich
        Vyacheslav Viktorovich 20 December 2019 15: 45
        +1
        Rather, the news is related to today's test unmanned launch of the Boeing Starliner, which is going to carry NASA astronauts next year.

        But what surprises me most of all - that October news about NASA's ordering of two places at the unions - it did not appear anywhere else in a month and a half. Space.com, YouTube, Reddit - no one even heard that "an application for the purchase of seats in the Unions appeared on the US government procurement portal," although the news seemed to be very important. Was there an application?
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 20 December 2019 18: 16
          +1
          Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich
          Rather, the news is related to today's test unmanned launch of the Boeing Starliner, which is going to carry NASA astronauts next year.

          Like NASA calls Rogozin, they say help out Boeing was screwed up? This does not happen.
          Here, like NASA, it is necessary to circumvent the CAATSA law, which limits the amount of purchases from Russia to increase gigabax per year, increasing your budget without violating this same Katsna, otherwise it’s criminals. Bureaucracy only hi drinks
          1. Vyacheslav Viktorovich
            Vyacheslav Viktorovich 20 December 2019 18: 19
            +1
            Rogozin's statement came before the Boeing screwed up.
            Falstartanuli, they, now, after the Boeing Feil, could wind up the price. laughing
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 20 December 2019 18: 37
              +7
              Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich
              Rogozin's statement came before the Boeing screwed up.
              Falstartanuli, they, now, after the Boeing Feil, could wind up the price.

              Yes, that’s not the point. The USA studied planning from the USSR and it turned out very cool, to the notorious Kaatsna Now the dough for NASA is not enough. And so it happens. Ala.
              - Houston Rogozin - We need extra seats
              - Rogozin to Houston - OK, Full Prepayment and We are building additional Unions
              - Houston Rogozin, Congress cuts funding for CAATSA
              - Rogozin to Houston-Ask for funding for a space trampoline. You cannot build a Union without an advance payment; you cannot train your astronauts.
              And immediately, NASA grandmother appeared
      2. Mityay65
        Mityay65 20 December 2019 17: 06
        -2
        The news is so-so. And so it was clear, from the month of May, that the Yankees would buy a place. But Roscosmos wanted to sell 20 and 21 per year on the ship, arguing that all places were distributed. That is, I wanted to sell 6 places for 2 years. Well, then the Yankees promised to compensate for some nishtyaki separately.
        1. slipped
          slipped 20 December 2019 19: 01
          +1
          Quote: Mityai65
          The news is so-so. And so it was clear, from the month of May, that the Yankees would buy a place. But Roscosmos wanted to sell 20 and 21 per year on the ship, arguing that all places were distributed. That is, I wanted to sell 6 places for 2 years. Well, then the Yankees promised to compensate for some nishtyaki separately.


          No. The decision to build additional ships was made earlier. They will be needed in the domestic program.
      3. DMB_95
        DMB_95 20 December 2019 20: 04
        0
        Quote: Hunter 2
        Quote: Sayan
        Have arranged a pancake a camomile - we will not give, we will give

        Accidentally discovered an extra ticket! lol Or someone did not buy the reservation ... wassat

        An extra ticket for two standing places would be for them and Rogozin.
  2. Destiny
    Destiny 20 December 2019 14: 54
    +6
    There are two taxi counters from them. While there is an opportunity to use.
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 20 December 2019 14: 59
      +3
      Quote: Destiny
      There are two taxi counters from them. While there is an opportunity to use.

      And rightly so! And in general, it was necessary, while the Americans were afraid - to draw up and force to sign an enslaving agreement, with progressive payment, and sign more places in the agreement!
      1. Well done
        Well done 20 December 2019 15: 21
        +6
        They cannot repair their space-toilets, they drill holes anywhere, but we encourage them in places and give their toilets. And they sanction us, as the therapist prescribes! It's a shame !!! (They also say that they’ve been to the moon ?! I don’t believe it.)
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 20 December 2019 15: 37
          +4
          Can plumbers want to deliver? To clean their toilets - there was no such agreement. request
          1. Avior
            Avior 20 December 2019 15: 42
            0
            Yes, actually, it turns out that it was just that
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 20 December 2019 15: 48
              +3
              Well, if their hands grow from the wrong place, then they will have to. And then, after all, ours live there. The space is closed, you will not open the window to ventilate. recourse
          2. Graf56
            Graf56 20 December 2019 16: 44
            +3
            Teach materiel, such an agreement was. And in 2018 it was extended.
            Energia, the Russian space corporation (RSC), received new orders from the NASA space agency under the contract for maintenance and repair of the toilet in the US segment of the ISS.
            Check out the materials of RKK.
            1. slipped
              slipped 20 December 2019 19: 04
              +1
              Quote: Graf56
              Check out the materials of RKK.


              tell you why so? how did astronauts roll from top to bottom on a shuttle from a toilet bowl? laughing
            2. Svarog51
              Svarog51 20 December 2019 21: 10
              +1
              Well, if there is a contract - it is necessary to fulfill. He only signs one, but performs the other. The one who signed up will not be an engineer in the ISS crew. Alas, the wrong level of technical training.
              1. slipped
                slipped 21 December 2019 03: 19
                +3
                Quote: Svarog51
                not that level of technical training.


                "But with the toilet for the Space Shuttle it turned out to be an engineering embarrassment. The original idea was great - let's make a toilet in which the air flows themselves will put feces into the receiving device without the participation of an astronaut. However, it was not possible to achieve reliable operation - feces constantly touched the walls of the tunnel, and The astronauts had to constantly clean it. The feces packing system did not work reliably enough, the toilet was out of order regularly enough. Also, to use the toilet had to undergo special training. The simulator in the tunnel had a camera with a backlight. In front of the astronaut's face was a monitor with a sight. to place your anus in the center of the sight and memorize the position of the body, so that already in zero gravity, feces begin their journey as close to the center of the tunnel as possible. Compared to the previous American space toilets, the system was progressive, the fan and replaceable nozzles allowed both men and women to use the toilet. the toilet is too complicated and not reliable enough. Astronaut Mike Mullein recalled that it was best to completely undress before using the toilet. Urine leaks and flying faeces were not uncommon. Mullein recalls a rather unappetizing joke made by his fellow astronaut. He took a sausage from lunch, hid it in his pocket and went to the toilet. After waiting for a while, he threw the sausage into the common compartment and began chasing it with a napkin (the astronauts dodged as best they could, not recognizing the sausage in the flying object), and after catching up, ate ... "

                As you can see, toilet toilets in Americans are independent of the model. What is wrong at the conservatory? laughing
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 21 December 2019 09: 34
                  +1
                  What is wrong at the conservatory?

                  Canned food is not air-conditioned? lol
      2. Graf56
        Graf56 20 December 2019 16: 40
        -1
        Uh-huh.
        Only it may very well be that we are laughing for the last time.
        Today, the Boeing Corporation's Starliner CST-100 has successfully launched to the ISS. And this, for a moment, is a seven-seater comfortable ship. Let's see, of course, the docking, anything can happen.
        But in any case, SpaceX Crew Dragon Mask has already successfully docked.
        A few more months, from the strength of the year - and the flights will become manned.
        And then what remains for us? With whom will we sign bonded agreements?
        The fact is that the Mask ships and Boeing companies are new. That's the problem. These are new developments. With tremendous potential.
        What do we have? The Royal Seven? The product is reliable. But it is older, from the last century. And there is nothing new ...
        1. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 20 December 2019 16: 54
          +3
          Only it may very well be that we are laughing for the last time.
          Today, the Boeing Corporation's Starliner CST-100 has successfully launched to the ISS. And this, for a moment, is a seven-seater comfortable ship. Let's see, of course, the docking, anything can happen.

          But docking may not be. There is already news on this topic:
          The first launch of the Starliner spaceship from Boeing to the ISS ended abnormally
          The first launch of the latest American manned spacecraft Starliner, developed by Boeing, ended in an emergency. The spacecraft entered orbit, but cannot start moving toward the ISS due to engine failure. This was reported by the press service of Boeing.
      3. common man
        common man 20 December 2019 18: 57
        +1
        Quote: Starover_Z
        And in general, it was necessary, while the Americans were afraid - to draw up and force to sign an enslaving agreement, with progressive payment, and sign more places in the agreement!

        Right 10 year contract. 10 places a year. And fad, take it or pay. Or nothing at all. And to threaten Stockholm arbitration.
  3. paul3390
    paul3390 20 December 2019 14: 57
    +7
    So the question is - on feijoa ?? They spread rot on us for and without reason, and we are taking them into space .. It seems that the loot is the main priority of our rulers.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 20 December 2019 15: 00
      -5
      So if they are forbidden, they will score on their papers and issue certificates to Boeing and Space X. Boeing just at the moment launched his ship into space and it flies to the ISS. And Space X has been waiting for permission and papers since the spring of this year, after a fully successful flight to the ISS.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 20 December 2019 15: 01
        +2
        So they will give out as they see fit.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 20 December 2019 15: 03
          -3
          It’s just that in one case we’ll get more money, but in the other case
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 20 December 2019 15: 06
            +2
            And in one case we will solve their problems for loot, and in another - we will provide an opportunity to get out by ourselves. In response to everything ..
            1. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 20 December 2019 15: 07
              -3
              So everything is ready for them, the current inhibitions are caused by internal political issues. By refusing, we will simply help them resolve quickly. Musk will defeat the Boeing and this will end. And so extra money to the budget of Roscosmos.
              1. Lontus
                Lontus 20 December 2019 16: 05
                -4
                Quote: BlackMokona
                everything is ready for them, the current inhibitions are caused by internal political issues.

                Yeah - I don’t even get into a circular orbit in today's test launch of the Boeing Starliner.
                There is no question of a successful launch of a person in the near future.
                1. Blackmokona
                  Blackmokona 20 December 2019 16: 21
                  -2
                  NASA said the ship is in stable orbit.
                  Plus Dragon-2 Space X has already successfully flown to the ISS in the spring
                  1. Lontus
                    Lontus 20 December 2019 16: 26
                    -2
                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    NASA said the ship is in stable orbit.

                    you have old information - check before writing.
                    72.8 x 181.5 km is not a circular orbit, and such an orbit is stable at best for one revolution.
                    and I wrote:
                    Quote: Lontus
                    even launching into a circular orbit fails in today's test launch of the Boeing Starliner.


                    ---

                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    Plus Dragon-2 Space X has already successfully flown to the ISS in the spring

                    What does it have to do with it? I wrote about the Boeing Starliner
                    1. Blackmokona
                      Blackmokona 20 December 2019 16: 27
                      -3
                      And I write in general about the ability to send astronauts. Which of the two will deliver to me is not important.
                      Well, let's see how the Boeing will get out if the orbit is really so low.
                      1. Lontus
                        Lontus 20 December 2019 16: 35
                        -1
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        And I write in general about the ability to send astronauts. Which of the two will deliver to me is not important.

                        Delays with a Boeing Starliner will inevitably lead to delays of Dragon 2
                      2. Blackmokona
                        Blackmokona 20 December 2019 16: 48
                        -2
                        Why is that? These are different ships flying on different missiles, complete independence from each other at the request of NASA.
                        And a new orbit has come, everything is stable now if true
                        There's a second set of orbital elements released now. 187 x 222 km, with epoch at 13: 20UTC.
                      3. Lontus
                        Lontus 20 December 2019 16: 58
                        -1
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        a new orbit has come, everything is stable now if true
                        There's a second set of orbital elements released now. 187 x 222 km, with epoch at 13: 20UTC.


                        Everything is very simple.
                        There is an exact criterion who is right :. :
                        - there will be a docking with the ISS, then the norms, a working hitch.

                        -will not be - it means the failure was serious and the tests did not confirm the readiness of the device for successful flights
                      4. Blackmokona
                        Blackmokona 20 December 2019 16: 59
                        0
                        There is not enough fuel to fly to the ISS. Now the question is whether it will sit down normally, at least half of the checks will pass.
      2. Amateur
        Amateur 20 December 2019 15: 55
        +2
        will issue certificates to Boeing and Space X.

        And if astronauts can also be sent to orbit on these ships, they will not be priced.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 20 December 2019 16: 21
          -2
          So they are designed to deliver astronauts
          1. Amateur
            Amateur 20 December 2019 17: 09
            +1
            So they are designed to deliver astronauts

            Shaw, can it be delivered already?
            1. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 20 December 2019 17: 11
              -3
              On Dragons-2 it is possible, it passed a completely successful unmanned flight. A brand new ship and a rocket under it stands at the spaceport. How will the go-ahead, then you can fly
    2. sit
      sit 20 December 2019 15: 01
      +7
      "Looks like really loot is the main priority of our nonesh rulers."

      But were there any doubts?
      1. kjhg
        kjhg 20 December 2019 15: 49
        +3
        It reminds me of a situation when one insults the other with the last words, makes him all kinds of tricks, spits in the face. When he needed him, he offers money for a service, say, to bring to a neighboring city, because he really needs to go there on an important matter. But he does not think to apologize for the tricks. On the contrary, he says that this does not change anything in their relationship. And this second one loves money very much. For them, he is ready to wipe himself and take the first where he needs to, with music, comfort and with all amenities.
        It seems to me that this analogy is similar. Of course, it is unpleasant that our government here is clearly not in place of the first. But we have what we have request
  4. AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. 20 December 2019 14: 58
    -1
    Desirable places in the reserved seat near the toilet.
  5. nikolai.kolya
    nikolai.kolya 20 December 2019 15: 03
    -7
    how Ukraine presses us on gas (and we return 3 yards and transit for 10 (seemingly) years to continue) so nothing ...
    why don’t we push the Americans ????
  6. UserGun
    UserGun 20 December 2019 15: 13
    +1
    While you are here pagany Yankees from all their last strengths bow they already Starliner launched)))

    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 20 December 2019 16: 11
      +2
      NASA and Boeing report Starliner abnormalities
  7. prior
    prior 20 December 2019 15: 16
    +1
    But what is the ability of our officials to flex in time, ah!
    1. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 20 December 2019 16: 43
      0
      In this, among other things, "efficiency" is manifested)))
  8. 1536
    1536 20 December 2019 15: 18
    +3
    The Americans will not provide us with anything if something happens. In my opinion, this is the case when "kindness is worse than theft."
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 20 December 2019 15: 23
      +1
      In fact ... It doesn’t seem like the relationship between the US and the Russian Federation is the relationship of enemies dreaming of how to lower and destroy each other ... we invest in the economy, we trade, we carry astronauts, we listen to the IMF .. But on TV: "sworn partners, interfere with living, all evil is due to minke whales and so on. " And because of the puddle "Russia is a threat, give dough for missiles and so on, we will impose sanctions (and we will trade ourselves), etc."
      hypocrites ... loot wins everything ..
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      2. 1536
        1536 20 December 2019 15: 33
        0
        I do not know how it is on TV, but the fact that American warships in the Black Sea have absolutely nothing to do is a fact. The fact that the IMF was one of the main initiators of raising the retirement age in Russia is also a fact, whether we listen to it or not. Let's listen, it turns out. The Americans do not need competitors, they need "partners" like us, from whom you can get cheap everything you need, without worrying about whether it is beneficial to your partner or not. The main thing is that America is great again ...
        As for Space, the Soyuz is more than half a century old, it would be time for us to produce something new ourselves, not on paper, not on a stand. And for this, it is not necessary to carry the Americans into orbit under a contract and reproduce the old equipment, but to invest in R&D and the space industry to renew, and therefore the entire industry as a whole, and not in words, but in deeds.
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 20 December 2019 16: 03
          +2
          Quote: 1536
          and invest in research and development and the space industry to update
          And with what money then build mansions on Rublevka, buy elite penthouses in Europe, yachts and personal business jets for hundreds of millions of dollars ?!
  9. ender
    ender 20 December 2019 15: 21
    -4
    but how I breathed, how I breathed .. (c)

    https://topwar.ru/165290-nasa-razmestilo-zajavku-na-pokupku-dvuh-mest-na-rossijskih-sojuzah.html
    1. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 20 December 2019 15: 34
      0
      Quote: ender
      but how I breathed, how I breathed .. (c)


      Unfortunately for Rogozin, and for many officials, this is the norm. Here you can recall a lot of things ... how many promises and hopes were for completing the ISS Russian segment, but new modules are sent only verbally from year to year, and recently the media flashed information:

      "December 16. Roscosmos Corporation is exploring the possibility of not completing the construction of the Russian segment of the International Space Station (ISS) with the Prichal Node Module (UM) and the Scientific Power Module (NEM)"

      and immediately to the moon. In our case, this never means if such a decision is made. Yes, and for the Yenisei and Orel scary ... given the current situation in the industry.
  10. Starper-xnumx
    Starper-xnumx 20 December 2019 15: 29
    -2
    An interesting situation, peasants .. the USA has recently imposed us with the next sanctions, and we have them a place in a spaceship .. Here's how to understand all this?
    1. Jack O'Neill
      Jack O'Neill 20 December 2019 15: 36
      0
      An interesting situation, peasants .. the USA has recently imposed us with the next sanctions, and we have them a place in a spaceship .. Here's how to understand all this?

      Everything is simple - money.
      They pay us for the seats, but the money is not superfluous to us. This is a business, nothing personal!
      1. Starper-xnumx
        Starper-xnumx 20 December 2019 16: 23
        -4
        Quote: Jack O'Neill
        Everything is simple - money.
        They pay us for the seats, but the money is not superfluous to us. This is a business, nothing personal!

        So we are losing many times more on sanctions .. And in general, Russia is being persecuted ..! Why not put an ultimatum ... Remove the sanctions, upset the vada ... Then you will have places on the ship ..!
        I think they will immediately stir! And we are all afraid and behave nobly, etc. Ah Russia is a trusting soul ..
        1. Jack O'Neill
          Jack O'Neill 20 December 2019 23: 03
          0
          So we are losing a lot more on sanctions ..

          But we will compensate for the amers at least something, since they will not lift the sanctions. In the worst case, they simply begin to force the Boeing and SpaceX programs.

          Why not put an ultimatum.

          Because we are in no position to set ultimatums ...
      2. Brturin
        Brturin 20 December 2019 16: 34
        0
        Quote: Jack O'Neill
        They pay us for the seats, but the money is not superfluous to us. This is a business, nothing personal!

        For me, tourists were sent better, the same business, and there will be those who wish ... And then there was information that Trump was planning to turn the ISS into a "private enterprise on a commercial basis" after 2024. It is also necessary to work in this direction, not the budget ...
        1. Jack O'Neill
          Jack O'Neill 20 December 2019 23: 04
          0
          For me, they sent tourists better, the same business, and there are those who want to ....

          Tourists go to the Mask, as it is cheaper.
    2. Cyer
      Cyer 22 December 2019 01: 07
      -2
      The United States recently sanctioned us with another sanction, and we gave them space in a spaceship ..
      - specifically You, Meehan, you have nothing to do with Russian cosmonautics and the provision / non-provision of seats on the Soyuz to the Americans. Sleep well, your conscience is clear, like the clear eyes of the builder of communism))
  11. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 20 December 2019 15: 40
    +6
    . We made a decision in principle

    There is no doubt about the "principles" of the current effective management)))
  12. Dva parovoza
    Dva parovoza 20 December 2019 15: 52
    +6
    And then there will be snot:
    - "Piglet, we gave them places, and they ate our honey!"
    - "But Vinnie, they are partners!" ...
  13. sergo1914
    sergo1914 20 December 2019 16: 03
    0
    Urgently mounted folding seats on the body 3 stages of the launch vehicle. Let’s ride with a breeze - Energy promises.
  14. Maks1995
    Maks1995 20 December 2019 16: 05
    0
    And how joyfully (figuratively) the jingoists jumped - at last they put NASA and USA on their knees !!!

    But no. Money doesn't smell. Sanctions are sanctions, and reality is reality.
  15. Lone gunman
    Lone gunman 20 December 2019 16: 07
    0
    Gozin & Co. also needs money, for salaries, back and forth ... Maybe the "eagle federation" will be finished.
  16. Lontus
    Lontus 20 December 2019 16: 08
    0
    About the successful launch of a man, there is no question in the near future on American barrels.
    .
    It’s not even possible to put into a circular orbit in today's test launch of the Boeing Starliner.

    Further delays are inevitable.
    As well as using only the Soyuz spacecraft for manned space flights.
    1. UserGun
      UserGun 20 December 2019 16: 42
      +1
      Quote: Lontus
      It’s not even possible to put into a circular orbit in today's test launch of the Boeing Starliner.


      Come on, then lie))) Into orbit bredorbit stable. The engine for maneuvering to the ISS did not turn on, yes.
      1. Lontus
        Lontus 20 December 2019 16: 45
        -1
        Quote: UserGun
        Quote: Lontus
        It’s not even possible to put into a circular orbit in today's test launch of the Boeing Starliner.


        Come on, then lie))) Into orbit bredorbit stable. The engine for maneuvering to the ISS did not turn on, yes.

        This is not me lying. and you are gullible
        as a routine excuse from bureaucrats, "the orbit is stable."
        --
        There is no circular orbit.
        Follow the events.
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        2. UserGun
          UserGun 22 December 2019 17: 21
          0
          Quote: Lontus
          Follow the events.


          Well, sat down))) So what about the orbit? )))
    2. Cyer
      Cyer 22 December 2019 01: 10
      -3
      About the successful launch of a man, there is no question in the near future on American barrels.
      - In addition to Starliner, NASA also has Dragon, which has successfully passed a test unmanned flight.
  17. Kerensky
    Kerensky 20 December 2019 16: 18
    0
    All will pass. Politics is one today, tomorrow another. And space for all people together must be mastered. Tea is not a tourist ride.
  18. awdrgy
    awdrgy 20 December 2019 16: 26
    +2
    We place them, they sanction us Normally (
  19. Lontus
    Lontus 20 December 2019 16: 31
    -1
    Quote: BlackMokona
    And I write in general about the ability to send astronauts. Which of the two will deliver to me is not important.

    Delays with a Boeing Starliner will inevitably lead to delays of Dragon 2
  20. kit88
    kit88 20 December 2019 16: 39
    +4
    Bridenstein sent a letter to Roscosmos with by request on the provision of additional seats on the Russian Soyuz in 2020-2021 due to delays in the program for the construction of American spacecraft to deliver astronauts to the ISS. In response, Rogozin stated that this demand breaking plans

    Not so with a request or a demand?
    These, as they say in one Russian city, are two big differences.
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  22. alien308
    alien308 20 December 2019 16: 48
    0
    72.8 km - when and where will it crash?
    1. Lontus
      Lontus 20 December 2019 17: 02
      +2
      Quote: alien308
      72.8 km - when and where will it crash?

      They already say that they straightened.
      But there was a failure and he ruined the test program.
      Docking with the ISS canceled.
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  23. Prisoner
    Prisoner 20 December 2019 17: 30
    0
    Mattresses got out a couple of extra tickets.
  24. NF68
    NF68 20 December 2019 18: 03
    0
    There is a ticket to the ballet. There are no tickets to the Union.
  25. rocket757
    rocket757 20 December 2019 18: 04
    0
    In response to this, Rogozin said that this requirement violates Russia's plans, but a decision will be made.

    A trampoline, for such babosiks, of course, will not be bought / sold.
  26. rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 20 December 2019 18: 26
    +1
    Who doubted that Rogozin can only send them on trampolines on Twitter
  27. Victor March 47
    Victor March 47 20 December 2019 18: 45
    -1
    Quote: BlackMokona
    So everything is ready for them, the current inhibitions are caused by internal political issues. By refusing, we will simply help them resolve quickly. Musk will defeat the Boeing and this will end. And so extra money to the budget of Roscosmos.

    Nobody will defeat anyone there. There is a law that prohibits monopoly on strategic issues. That is why, extended, having spent the colossal loot.
    We do not have the opportunity to counter this, so we will tear at least a tuft of wool from a lousy sheep.
  28. lelik613
    lelik613 20 December 2019 18: 57
    +3
    Well done, what to say. Apparently halopyridol does not help anymore.
  29. KJIETyc
    KJIETyc 20 December 2019 19: 03
    -2
    Quote: Sayan
    Have arranged a pancake a camomile - we will not give, we will give

    From pioneers of space, they turned into cabbies and plumbers. Shame.
    1. slipped
      slipped 21 December 2019 03: 13
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      Quote: KJIETyc
      From pioneers of space, they turned into cabbies and plumbers. Shame.


      Shame, this is when the pioneers on our ships fly passengers and go into packages without us with their fingers tearing off their fingers:

  30. evgen1221
    evgen1221 20 December 2019 20: 00
    0
    All-trampolines ended alike.
    1. slipped
      slipped 21 December 2019 03: 07
      +1
      Quote: evgen1221
      All-trampolines ended alike.


      Nope, they continue ... and they will have a couple more years. Here is an interesting price on how much they still raised? laughing
  31. rus-5819
    rus-5819 20 December 2019 20: 40
    0
    According to Rogozin, Roscosmos made a decision in principle to provide NASA astronauts with two seats on the Russian Soyuz for their delivery to the ISS

    Somewhere, I read something about trampolines recently laughing
    1. slipped
      slipped 21 December 2019 03: 06
      +1
      Quote: rus-5819
      Somewhere, I read something about trampolines recently laughing


      yeah, they will still pay three times the price laughing
  32. Dr. Sorge
    Dr. Sorge 20 December 2019 20: 58
    0
    How fundamentally that. :)
  33. milton
    milton 20 December 2019 21: 31
    -3
    Can Rogozin himself wave into space or is afraid not to fly?
  34. KJIETyc
    KJIETyc 21 December 2019 03: 22
    -1
    Quote: slipped
    Quote: KJIETyc
    From pioneers of space, they turned into cabbies and plumbers. Shame.


    Shame, this is when the pioneers on our ships fly passengers and go into packages without us with their fingers tearing off their fingers:


    Do not forget to throw a hat higher, woe-rattle. You can get to this Apollo, in which they shit in packages. Both toilets on the ISS are designed in Russia. They are located on the Star and Tranquility modules. And now, count the number of scientific blocks in the Russian Federation and the USA, and who does what there and chew on further deflections from Rogozin. For the cabman, the money doesn’t smell; they cut their mission for the sake of mattresses, probably out of patriotic dollar considerations. And he screamed so much about trampolines, pah.
    1. slipped
      slipped 21 December 2019 03: 29
      +1
      Quote: KJIETyc
      Do not forget to throw a hat higher, woe-rattle.


      By your efforts lol

      Quote: KJIETyc
      You can get to this Apollo, in which they shit in packages.


      Wow laughing how it rushed

      Quote: KJIETyc
      Both toilets on the ISS are designed in Russia. They are located on the Star and Tranquility modules.


      So you need to know how to use it correctly, periodically read the manual while sitting laughing

      Quote: KJIETyc
      And now, count the number of scientific blocks in the Russian Federation and the USA, and who does what there and chew on further deflections from Rogozin.


      Do you always take quantity? laughing

      Quote: KJIETyc
      For the cabman, the money doesn’t smell; they cut their mission for the sake of mattresses, probably out of patriotic dollar considerations. And he screamed so much about trampolines, pah.


      Speak right away - do circumcision laughing Do not worry - trampolines continue, the starliner confirmed.
      1. Cyer
        Cyer 22 December 2019 01: 16
        -2
        wow laughing how that
        - And what is he wrong about? Well, they are in bags, but 6 missions to another cosmic body.

        So you need to be able to use it correctly, periodically read the manual while sitting laughing
        - but the toilets have failed not only in the American, but also in the Russian segment. Also did not read the instructions?

        Do you always take quantity? laughing
        - in this case, the quantity develops into quality. The more scientific modules, the more scientific equipment can be placed in them and, therefore, the more research can be done.
        1. slipped
          slipped 22 December 2019 12: 09
          -1
          Quote: CyER
          wow laughing how that
          - And what is he wrong about? Well, they are in bags, but 6 missions to another cosmic body.


          The conversation is about "they pooped in bags." He was excited about it along the way. laughing

          Quote: CyER
          So you need to be able to use it correctly, periodically read the manual while sitting laughing
          - but the toilets have failed not only in the American, but also in the Russian segment. Also did not read the instructions?


          Nope, we were fine. Due to the greater number of "walkers", the tank was quickly, but regularly filled, which was replaced and that's it. laughing

          Quote: CyER
          Do you always take quantity? laughing
          - in this case, the quantity develops into quality. The more scientific modules, the more scientific equipment can be placed in them and, therefore, the more research can be done.


          In order to carry out "more research" in space, it is necessary first of all to prepare this "more" on Earth. The number of cosmonauts and research modules on the ISS RS is now sufficient to carry out the experiments that we had previously prepared - the results are returned regularly. With more funding for the work, the amount of scientific equipment on the ISS will also increase.
          1. Cyer
            Cyer 22 December 2019 15: 37
            0
            1. He was rather outraged by the fact that you focus on toilets, and not that without a sort, Americans landed on the moon 6 times. In other words, you exaggerate the importance of the sort (auxiliary, albeit an important achievement) and level the significance of landing (main achievement).
            2. I will not argue, did not go into it.
            3. It is precisely that the presence of a larger number of scientific modules and equipment in orbit indicates that more research is being conducted on them, and they are better funded.
            1. slipped
              slipped 22 December 2019 16: 08
              0
              Quote: CyER
              1. He was rather outraged by the fact that you focus on toilets, and not that without a sort, Americans landed on the moon 6 times. In other words, you exaggerate the importance of the sort (auxiliary, albeit an important achievement) and level the significance of landing (main achievement).


              No, it simply disturbs from the fact that the Americans are forced to use Russian equipment in flight.

              Quote: CyER
              3. It is precisely that the presence of a larger number of scientific modules and equipment in orbit indicates that more research is being conducted on them, and they are better funded.


              So this is far from a secret, but in our case, we replace the quantity with quality.
              1. Cyer
                Cyer 22 December 2019 22: 09
                0
                So this is far from a secret, but in our case, we replace the quantity with quality.
                - I do not think that the quality of research performed by the Americans in their laboratory modules is lower than the Russian one. But the number is definitely higher.
                1. slipped
                  slipped 22 December 2019 23: 34
                  0
                  Quote: CyER
                  So this is far from a secret, but in our case, we replace the quantity with quality.
                  - I do not think that the quality of research performed by the Americans in their laboratory modules is lower than the Russian one. But the number is definitely higher.


                  Ha, discovered America. laughing Of course above. There are two more people stupidly at the station now.

                  And the quality - well, recently, according to the results of a space experiment to print organs on a Russian 3D bioprinter, it was possible to grow, and for the first time in the world, human cartilage tissue in microgravity. And then they got the cellular material of various animals, it is assumed that in the future, the technology of cell meat will be able to solve the global problem of providing the growing population of the planet with an affordable and ethical protein, with a minimum of carbon footprint. The astronauts also, in the Crystallizer experiment, began to grow protein crystals and experiment with printing bacterial biofilms to study their behavior in zero gravity. And all this on a rather small and compact installation of Organ.Avt., Occupying a minimum of space.



                  At the same time, the American bioprinter, recently delivered to the ISS, technologically uses the classic "old" printing technology and is rather bulky in design.

    2. Connor MacLeod
      Connor MacLeod 21 December 2019 19: 05
      0
      The whole so-called. The ISS "scientific program" has long been worked out at MIR. And if NASA, ESA, JAXA are ready to pay for flights and work on their unmanned ISS, what's wrong with that? RosKosmos receives a constant source of income, plus it accumulates colossal experience in ensuring the life of the space station, which will definitely come in handy in the future.
  35. Dynamic systems
    Dynamic systems 21 December 2019 08: 15
    0
    Two more will be driven with perforators to make holes for sure ...
  36. Dikson
    Dikson 21 December 2019 18: 44
    -2
    For the loot they have long sold both honor and the Motherland .. Professional yap in the chair of the head .. - and here you have the result ..
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