LNA of Marshal Haftar put forward an ultimatum to the PNS Faiz Saraj

The Libyan National Army (LNA), Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar, issued an ultimatum to the Government of National Accord (PNS) Faiz Saraj, demanding the release of the cities of Sirte and Tripoli within 72 hours. This was reported by Al Arabiya TV channel, citing a statement by the official representative of the LNA Ahmed al-Mismari.

The LNA demanded that the armed formations supporting the PNS leave the territories of the cities of Sirte and Tripoli. The withdrawal of units is given 72 hours, during which the LNA agrees not to attack forces departing from the above settlements. If the ultimatum is ignored, the Libyan National Army will resume attacks on the positions of the armed forces of the PNS.

The LNA commented on the information of some Arab media that the PNS would request military assistance from Turkey, saying that it was "an attempt by a drowning man to grab onto a straw."

On the eve of the official representative of the LNA Ahmed al-Mismari said that the forces of the Libyan National Army completed the land encirclement of the PNS-controlled armed forces stationed in Tripoli. The only way to supply arms remains the sea.

Previously, information appeared about the appearance of Turkish special forces in Tripoli, which was entrusted with the functions of protecting members of the government of people's consent (PNS). Declared the receipt of military equipment of Turkish production. According to Al-Arabia TV channel, Turkish military advisers also arrived in the Libyan capital to "assess" the military situation. It is reported that at the same time as the arrival of Turkish troops, the Turkish parliament approved the agreement on military cooperation between Turkey and the PNS, signed in late November, implying the provision of military assistance. In addition, in a number of cities in the west of Libya, under the control of the PNS, general mobilization has been announced.

After the assassination of Muammar Gaddafi, there is a dual power in Libya: the PNS Sarajah, recognized by the EU and the UN, sits in Tripoli, and in the east of the country there is a popularly elected parliament supported by the LNA. Marshal Khalifa Haftar on April 4 gave the order to launch a large-scale offensive on Tripoli.

Comments

[bessmertniy]

In essence, this is a hint of complete surrender. If Khalifa Haftar takes control of Tripoli and Sirte, then the PNS will, in principle, be over.

[antivirus]

72 hours is not enough for Western specialists to exit-- do not throw spare berets and panama

[210ox]

I think that this Khalifa will quickly take these specialists to him. He has experience of changing shoes in a jump.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: antivirus

72 hours is not enough for the output of Western specialists- do not throw spare berets and panama

They have access to the sea to follow the example of the mattresses that were poured out of Libya by sea within 48 hours after Haftar launched the April offensive against Tripoli. I think that their "last steamer" is dangling somewhere near the Libyan coast, and tickets for it have already been sold out in advance, but until their fifth point smokes, they will demonstrate their support for the Sarajists.

[Blackmokona]

How many months has Haftar been leading its final and decisive advance?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: BlackMokona

How many months has Haftar been leading its final and decisive advance?

Since the month of April. But the fact is that Haftar is Libyan. On this basis, he does not want to destroy the city and port infrastructure, as well as shed excess blood of his fellow citizens, since this will play against him. If Haftar was a classic mattress, then it would act like the Americans in Raqqa and Mosul, turning these cities into a lunar landscape and the PNS would cease its activity in June.

[Blackmokona]

So he unleashed a new phase of civil war in his country?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: BlackMokona

So he unleashed a new phase of civil war in his country?

Why he? Most likely, the UN, recognizing this structure (PNS) and splitting Libya into two camps. In general, the fault is the mattresses that organized the murder of Gaddafi. It was a normal country.

[Blackmokona]

So the PNS created their organization before Haftar, and held nationwide elections.
Well, Haftar took part in conspiracies against Gaddafi even before it became mainstream, actively collaborated with the CIA and lived in the United States.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: BlackMokona

Haftar took part in conspiracies against Gaddafi before it became mainstream, actively collaborated with the CIA and lived in the USA

This is known, but at present, Haftar is drowning for the elimination of the PNS and the holding of new elections in Libya, which, incidentally, he is not going to run for, but is not against promoting one of Gaddafi’s offspring. Apparently the old man understood what the overthrow of Gaddafi and the game of democracy turned out to be for his country repenting.

[Blackmokona]

Of course, he will appoint the pound chairman and will rule as a dictator.
And you have a contradiction, you simultaneously claim that Haftar is against democracy and that he is going to organize elections.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: BlackMokona

And you have a contradiction, you simultaneously claim that Haftar is against democracy and that he is going to organize elections.

There is no contradiction. Haftar against the puppet government, which under the auspices of the UN drowns in the corridor of US and British interests to the detriment of the restoration of Libyan statehood without doing anything to restore national unity. Saraji is imprisoned to hold oil fields and port terminals. The scenario of the partition of Libya on the model of Sudan, Haftar does not suit.

[Blackmokona]

Therefore, Haftar flies to neighboring countries that nishtyaki push him. That's where the puppet is. Especially for CIA agents.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: BlackMokona

Therefore, Haftar flies to neighboring countries that nishtyaki push him. That's where the puppet is. Especially for CIA agents.

Well, let's just say that, yes, Saraji does not fly, since everything is being adjusted to him so that he would ensure the interests of third countries that are very fond of oil. So Edik the Turkish got in a hurry. Haftar, in this regard, is in a worse position and in order to get "nishtyaki" there is a need to 1) justify, 2) convince, 3) demonstrate, and then receive. Considering that help and support is being provided to him, everything is fine with all three points, but with full support from the outside, Saraja is not doing so well, and apart from a few specified cities and fields, he does not control anything in Libya ... I believe that we will stay with you anyway, everyone has his own opinion, and therefore it probably makes sense to wait for a while, which is indicated at 72 hours. Well, there it will be seen who is wrong.

[Blackmokona]

Well, wait, and it’s just that some of the guys have a legitimate chosen government, while the other has a bunch of weapons from famous countries

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: BlackMokona

Well wait and it’s just that some of the guys have a legitimate chosen government, while the other has a bunch of weapons from famous countries

Behind each of these "guys" are certain forces that have their own interests, and therefore one must keep in mind that not these "guys" are fighting among themselves, but those who are behind them. Considering that during Haftar's offensive on Tripoli, the Americans boarded ships and left Libya, they are not very confident in the forces of Saraja, although they support him not only with weapons, but also with NATO military forces, as evidenced by the fact that a couple of months ago, the Haftarites shot down a PNS plane and captured the pilot, who for some reason turned out to be not a Libyan at all, but a Belgian and not even a pensioner. I'm more interested in why Ankara suddenly decided so sharply to stand on the side of Saraja, reinforcing its interest not only with weapons and equipment, but also with the forces of military advisers and special forces, despite the fact that there seems to be "not so simple" and the main interests of the "Sarajists" are not show their military activity, limited to notes and concerns?

[kapitan92]

Quote: Nyrobsky

I’m more interested in why suddenly Ankara decided so sharply to stand on the side of Sarajah,

This is the sweet word for hydrocarbons!
In late November, Erdogan signed a controversial agreement on maritime borders in the Mediterranean with Al-Sarraj, as well as an agreement on military cooperation. Maritime Border Agreement between Turkey and Libya was achieved without the consent of other Mediterranean states.
Turkey claims the territory adjacent to the Greek island of Crete and the Dodecanese archipelago. She believes that the territories are on her continental shelf.
Offshore significant oil and gas reserves.

[protoss]

I wonder how you and the local community suddenly became such haftarophiles? why do you suddenly don’t care to a country about which you do not know anything except fairy tales about the jelly banks at Gaddafi? Is it because our leadership, for personal commercial reasons, decided to earn extra money by hiring mercenaries from the Saudis and Emirates? try to tell me that if our people were hired by the Qatari people on the side of the PNS, now you would not be drowned for saraj either. and your arguments would be against the Haftar of about the same level as now against the Saraj, on the level - I heard a ringing ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: protoss

I wonder how you and the local community suddenly became such haftarophiles? why do you suddenly don’t care to a country about which you do not know anything except fairy tales about the jelly banks at Gaddafi?

No Shura, sorry for the familiarity - Alexander. Here, most likely, not that the haftarophylls have gathered, but the anti-killings of the Qaddafists are unambiguously present, because while you were dozing tolerantly and absorbed with emotion lullabies about the bloodthirstiness of the dictator Qaddafi, some democratic forces were mercilessly hammering one of the most prosperous and secular countries of the African continent into where banditry and human trafficking flourish today.

Quote: protoss

about which you do not know anything except fairy tales about the jelly banks at Gaddafi?

Yes, sir. Who better than you know that - "The fairy tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it ..." We also know how to read "fairy tales", only unlike you in the original source.

Quote: protoss

Is it because our leadership, for personal commercial reasons, decided to earn extra money by hiring mercenaries from the Saudis and Emirates? try to lie to me

Tyuyu, why should I try to lie to you? Lying in general is the last thing, especially when everything is in plain sight. You remember that the bombing of Libya was supported by your idol SAME LADIES, who was entrusted with guarding the president's throne for 4 years. The fact that as a result of this "support" Russia lost about 10 billion dollars is a "real" trifle in comparison with what, as you write, we were "offered" by the Saudis and Emirates for mercenary activities. Probably a billion given? It is a sin to refuse such a "profitable" transaction of 1 billion "income" versus 10 billion losses !!! As much as 9 billion cat under the tail, it's a sin not to resist the temptation !!! Only on the fact that Russia had to build and modernize the railways available in Libya, it lost 3 billion perpetually green dollars. What are you talking about? Personally, an acquaintance of mine was supposed to go to Libya on a railway contract (a second time), but due to the fact that hostilities began and work under the contract was curtailed, he did not go.

Quote: protoss

and your arguments would be against the Haftar of about the same level as now against the Saraj, on the level - I heard a ringing ...

No, not an option. I’m not against Sarajah, or Poroshenko, or Zelensky, I’m categorically against the Americans, by whose efforts these Sarajs, Poroshenko and Zelensky are at the head of state, and therefore I, a priori, for Haftar and LDNR, therefore, are against the Americans and those whom they brought to power.

[protoss]

yes, and how does combating the killing of Gaddafi and anti-Americans combine with Haftar? you would at least look into the biography of the old man. you, as in a joke, either remove the cross or put on your pants. I don’t blame you for drowning him, it’s strange for me to think so thoughtlessly, neither with my ear, nor with the snout in the situation there, but although if for money, then call, then I completely approve, interfere with this Sarajah with amnom, caliph forever and eva, etc. etc.

[Chaldon48]

It will be over not only with the PNS, but with the influence of Turkey.

[cost]

in response to the Libyan "demarche" of Turkey, the governments of the UAE and Egypt have already declared their readiness to oppose the "illegal Turkish intervention". So Haftar may have ships to sink ships. Cairo is very serious and very angry with Ankara for the trick with dividing the exclusive economic zone. Egyptian President Marshal Al-Sisi is not a timid man, and the Egyptian army is larger than the Turkish one and is better armed.

For comparison: in order to transfer to Libya, say, a couple of mechanized divisions with American M1A1 Abrams As-Sisi tanks must be ordered to cross the border. In response, the Turks will not be able to transport one division in a reasonable time - there will not be enough logistic opportunities. And the soldiers from the Turks and Egyptians are about equally bad. So, if a collision occurs, one cannot leave for Ankara class.

[smart ass]

Are you sure that the Egyptian army is more Turkish?

[cost]

Thanks for the amendment.

[Chaldon48]

Egypt has 2 "Mistrals" on them, you can throw a lot of things over the sea, in addition, they have attack helicopters, so they can organize a completely full blow

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Rich

warriors from the Turks and Egyptians are about equally bad.

Not sure. The Turks have more experience.

Quote: Rich

So Haftar may have ships to sink ships.

More likely DBK, with crews.
But about the common border, you are right. It is much easier for Egypt to provide "assistance". And in terms of finance, LNA is better ...

[protoss]

Well, actually, neighboring Algeria and Tunisia are in no way interested in the occupation of Libya by Egypt and they will not be able to move across the border in tanks either. Moreover, everyone understands that KSA and UAE are behind Egypt, and these friends in their pursuit of hegemony in the Arab world are not particularly supported by the Maghribes.

[svp67]

Quote: bessmertniy

then, in principle, the PNS will be over

That is the question. Will the Turks manage to transfer their expeditionary force and prepare it for use on the PNS side? If so, then maybe everything will change there soon

[knn54]

Victor, in addition to Tripoli and Sirte, there are enough cities. Moreover, half of the country is not subject to ANYONE.
There are clan wars and clashes between various terrorist groups.
Libya. In fact, the formation of two historical regions - Tripolitania and Cyrenaica.
What is needed here is a cruel dictator who will tame tribal leaders (Gaddafi’s mistake) and cut down the Islamists to the root.
Otherwise, the Sudanese (at best) or Somali (at worst) option.

[Mavrikiy]

LNA of Marshal Haftar put forward an ultimatum to the PNS Faiz Saraj

What 72 hours, Turkish flyers in 24 hours will arrive and .....

[Nemo]

And then we find out what / who is better: flyers or shells

[Avior]

They are far from flying to Tripoli from Turkey, and in Libya itself, first you need to create a base for flights so that they are effective

[dzvero]

AND? Where will the ammunition and fuel come from? There is not much to take to the transporters, and the risk of shooting down on the way is great. For a full-fledged application, a full-fledged base is needed, but this is not a matter of one day.

[svp67]

Quote: Mavrikiy

What 72 hours, Turkish flyers in 24 hours will arrive and .....

Well, they’ll arrive. Will they have time to turn around?

[Altai72]

There is a proverb in the East:
The dough will take a lot of water.

[tihonmarine]

The LNA demanded that the armed formations supporting the PNS leave the territories of the cities of Sirte and Tripoli. The withdrawal of units is given 72 hours, during which the LNA agrees not to attack forces departing from the above settlements.

Well this is very humane. The besieged have two options, one option to die, the second to surrender to the mercy of the winner. The second is more preferable.

[Avior]

If the Turks were now fully prepared for the UDCs that the Turks were building, and with f-35 on board, then Marshal Haftar would have serious problems
But the Turks do not have them, and so far they are not expected, therefore they cannot quickly and efficiently render assistance to the PNS, although they are clearly not against

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Avior

If the Turks were now fully prepared for the UDCs that the Turks were building, and with f-35 on board, then Marshal Haftar would have serious problems
But the Turks do not have them, and so far they are not expected, therefore they cannot quickly and efficiently render assistance to the PNS, although they are clearly not against

Ours did not stop the lack of UDC to save Assad. What makes the Turks worse? Moreover, these last and decisive assaults on Tripoli, the LNA already had several over the past year

[Avior]

Not for three days the forbidden Ishim was driven away

[Altai72]

Sudan sent 1000 fighters to help Haftar, and Turkey sent equipment and weapons to Faiz. I think the Turks will very soon arrive in Libya. The cargo has been loaded for a week.

[Avior]

Haftar is not in a hurry
If the Turks have time, Haftar will have no chance

[Tzar]

The Turks have limited logistical capabilities and no safe territory for anchoring "on the ground" in Libya, and there are serious regional players on the side of Haftar. What Erdogan is counting on in this batch is generally not clear ...

[kriten]

The Field Marshal seems to have no strength and is mainly engaged in demagogy ... If he had the strength, he would have taken Tripoli.

[Invoce]

What the hell does Turkey get into the civil war in Libya? Protects the interests of ethnic Turks like in Syria? NATO? What are your own interests? All this is dangerous. On the other hand, Iran can fit in and then what? Let them figure it out, especially since the civil war, the death of Gaddafi and the arrival of the PNS in Libya, all this was paid by the EU and the USA ... The terrorist democrats already got ... Not everything is measured by a single oil

[no better place for]

The same as you have in Syria. At the invitation of a legally recognized UN government. It is unclear what the rest are doing there. Enough of the hypocrite

[dzvero]

If not oil, then gas - the other day the Turks signed an agreement with the "government of the PNS" on the joint (sic!) Development of oil and gas resources at the bottom of their zones in the Mediterranean Sea. The Greeks, by the way, are strongly opposed. So they don't want Haftar at the helm - the kids have already taken their money, and the new player's appetites are unknown ...

[rocket757]

It would be better if they worked together to restore the state ....
Who is against it at all, who drives it ??? Remove all, and the locals will have to agree among themselves!

[Incvizitor]

I hope he has time to free the capital.

[faterdom]

Good luck to this Marshal. If Colonel Gaddafi was not enough - let him be the Marshal. Only someone who:
1. Would unite Libya under autocracy.
2. Took control of Libyan oil and gas.
3. He drove out, and it would be better if he destroyed the "Muslim brothers", the ISIS, Alkaeda and pro-Turkish illegal armed groups.
4. And in this situation - liquidated all investments of Europeans, Americans, Turks, Qatari and Saudis
in this long-term mess.
5. For what it is necessary and inevitable: to enlist military-technical cooperation with Russia, including the provision of a naval base and air base, as well as with the PRC to finance economic recovery, and the expulsion of the dollar from Africa.

[smart ass]

And started production of lip-packing machines)))

[Wilderness]

Tournament! Chess tournament forgot!)))

[rotmistr60]

The PNC will seek military assistance from Turkey ... this is "an attempt by a drowning man to grab onto a straw."

Obviously the way it is. If Havt (a) p gives 72 hours, then obviously he knows the full balance of power and understands the lack of the ability of Turkey to provide effective assistance to the PNS in three days.
PS For some reason, the Havt (a) r is automatically replaced by the Havtor?

[7gor]

Haftar would be more correct

[Operator]

LNA supports Egypt, PNS - Turkey.

[Starper-xnumx]

Well for Marshal Khalifa Haftar
Serious dude .. It's time to end this shitty mess in Libya .. Have you all had enough "freedom"?
Oh, what a socially rich country was under Gaddafi ..
Russia had the same fate, but managed to come to its senses ..

[Gennady Fomkin]

I didn’t understand, who is right and who is not .A essentially one berry field. East is a delicate matter. Bandits