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In the first lines, I really want to thank everyone who read and expressed their opinion on all the resources where this article was posted:


How to spit in memory of the Great Patriotic War.

I didn’t expect two things: that so many people would react in such a way that they would retype so many resources, and that the answer would fly so quickly.

We can when a bunch!

I don’t know how it looked in reality, but someone in the office of the Rossoshan administration uttered something like “Turn over the stove, otherwise these come ...”

Well, yes, they did. There is something. Still, it’s too early to “do it” to do such things, but just such a case was evident.

In general, I congratulate all those who are not indifferent, thanks to our joint efforts, the administration of the city of Rossosh twitched and literally two days after the publication (we didn’t carry out artillery preparation there), two representatives of the manufacturer already worked at the burial place, unfurling a commemorative sign.


And deployed.


Now everything looks decent and clear.


It is unfortunate, of course, that everything is so neglected in Rossosh that without recommendations from the outside they cannot even install a memorial sign on their own, so everyone doesn’t care.

However, it is wonderful that managers are still able to acknowledge, and most importantly, correct their mistakes. It is pleasing and encouraging for the future.

As we became aware, a group of public activists wants to remove an obscure wall from the territory of this object with an inscription made with fingers and put up a beautiful monument. Not to “dump”, as the authorities do, but from the heart. Work on the project is already underway, let's see how things will go with permissions and approvals.

In any case, we will take control of the matter and cover events. In the present way, as it should be for people who value the memory of their (and not Italian, say) ancestors.

In general, the spit was wiped away, the sediment, however, remained, but nothing. It could be worse.

Thanks again from the Rossoshansky patriots to everyone who did not stand aside. Thank you so much human.
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  1. GKS 2111
    GKS 2111 18 December 2019 16: 43
    +19
    Good news, damn it!
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 18 December 2019 17: 08
      +9
      Did they erect a monument apparently very drunk? Enrages the total indifference of our bureaucrats! Sometimes a reaction occurs, after the mat! It doesn’t matter how it is now, it’s important that there is less of it in our country.
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 18 December 2019 17: 59
        -5
        In long-suffering Rzhev, in the center there is a typical monument to the city of Military Glory. On which the words are carved: "To the defenders of the city of Rzhev." Now let's remember: who defended the city of Rzhev, and who led offensive operations? Moreover, in October 1941, we surrendered Rzhev almost without a fight. It's like a medal for the defense of Konigsberg. Writing a petition?
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 18 December 2019 19: 27
          +15
          Well done, Roman! Thanks to you, too!
          Thanks to your indifferent article about the heartlessness of local officials to the memory of Soviet prisoners of war and ordinary locals tortured by Italian fascists JUSTICE and triumphed!

          Good luck to you, Roman, in your further work!
          We will now wait from the authorities that in this place a worthy memorial monument will be erected to the victims of the Italian occupation of the Second World War.
        2. Nikolai Korovin
          Nikolai Korovin 19 December 2019 00: 04
          +7
          "Thirty-four" is there - I saw it. But I didn't notice a typical monument. Well, "Liberators of the city of Rzhev"? It is also quite formal in connection with the information revealed about the scale of the battles, which were not particularly advertised in Soviet times. What is needed is not a standard monument, but a serious stele, which would indicate the direct connection between the Battle of Rzhev and Stalingrad. It is no coincidence that Zhukov left Stalingrad near Rzhev. The Germans from the "Center" group could not transfer anything to Stalingrad.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 19 December 2019 09: 33
            0
            There were three Rzhev operations: in the spring, summer and autumn of 1942. None of them are connected with the Battle of Stalingrad. Operation Mars was a completely independent offensive operation with the goal of encircling the 9th German army, and not distracting. After its actual failure, the myth of a supposedly distracting character was created.
        3. sniperino
          sniperino 19 December 2019 09: 07
          +3
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          Rzhev we surrendered almost without a fight.
          This nameless "almost" eternal memory, what's wrong? But there probably are surnames. Some of the defenders, perhaps, died in the same concentration camp. A good local historian is needed to analyze the situation. And with the monument, probably for the bosses, they tried: they are looking at this matter from the road from the window of an official car.
          1. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 19 December 2019 09: 17
            +7
            Let's go without a local historian! The author of a "thoughtful" commentary needs a half-year defense, with fanfare, music and special effects. And since there was no such, it means "no one defended." Well, those people who are buried around the city without fanfare and splendor are nobody to him. There was no noise. So their death is worthless! Ugh...
            Well, actually, in our country, monuments in general are not set up too well. This is our tradition - it is wrong to do when it comes to retribution for service or deed. Because the heroes are usually dead, and the survivors are ashamed, and often - the villainy is raging. Just think - heroes! I spent the whole war valiantly in the rear, and for some reason they despise me for my mind and cunning !! Monument to them, yeah ...
            All monuments must write "Defenders of the Russian Land". Didn't the soldier Rzhev, who was killed near Moscow, defend? And other cities? Who is killed where, that's how fate could. And they defended every piece of this land, every blade of grass ...
            1. Serg koma
              Serg koma 23 December 2019 08: 35
              0
              Quote: Mikhail3
              At all the monuments it is necessary to write to "Defenders of the Russian Land".
              good
              On November 10, 1941, 10 Rzhevites were shot at the bridge on the right and left banks of the Volga in front of the eyes of many residents: the store manager Transtorgpita Orekhov, the famous Bayan player Drozdov in Rzhev, the lawyer Medousov, the director of the railway bakery Pigasov, the head of the supply department of the brewery Sarafannikov, the accountant of the brewery Sarafannikov, the accountant of the brewery Sarafannikov, , store manager Peachus, Jew Laitis, Solovyov, Roshchin.
              Medousov took off his hat, threw it to the ground and shouted: "The Soviet Union is invincible!".

              And to everyone ...
          2. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 19 December 2019 12: 57
            -2
            Among the people, among the Rzhevites who are aware of the history of their native land, this monument is called the monument to Model.
        4. Fitter65
          Fitter65 19 December 2019 12: 54
          +2
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          It’s like a medal for the defense of Koenigsberg. Writing a Petition?

          For those whose walkie-talkie works on an armored train.The medal “For the Capture of Konigsberg” was established by Decree of the Presidium of the USSR Armed Forces of June 9, 1945
        5. Serg koma
          Serg koma 23 December 2019 09: 26
          0
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          And now we recall: who defended the city of Rzhev, and who conducted offensive operations?

          Especially for you - REMINDER
          from the letter of the commander of the 206th front:
          “... The question of who entered Rzhev on the morning of 15.10, part 26 frd from the south, or 413 pp 206 fr from the southwest, can be left open. There is no need to solve this. There were no battles for the city of Rzhev, neither of them. The outcome of the case was decided that 206 pd 14.10 in a heavy battle, in which she lost 13 officers and 359 non-commissioned officers and privates and captured 1095 prisoners, came so close to Rzhev while covering him, and finally, still unexpectedly affected 413 pp, that the enemy was forced to retreat in the morning ... "
          Or do you think "defense" is just street fighting in the city itself?
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 18 December 2019 18: 08
        +6
        Quote: Thrifty

        Did they erect a monument apparently very drunk? Enrages the total indifference of our bureaucrats!

        A man must remember his ancestors, graves and graveyards. When we forget this, we will not be a single nation.
      3. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 18 December 2019 20: 04
        -1
        thrifty and what do you think and when the hard workers installed, in both cases they thought only about the salary?
      4. NordUral
        NordUral 26 December 2019 15: 08
        0
        Thrifty! Almost all bureaucrats have long been not ours.
    2. Alex rex
      Alex rex 18 December 2019 17: 19
      -9
      Great news! Give monuments renovated !!!

      https://varlamov.ru/3673106.html
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 18 December 2019 17: 32
        +14
        There is nothing to worry about in European-quality repair. There is such a suggestion: each memorial should have a sign installed: in addition to the names (if any could be established), add a description of the operation as a whole and the specific battle in particular. So people know how the soldiers died.
        1. sniperino
          sniperino 19 December 2019 12: 20
          +1
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          There is such a suggestion: each memorial should have a sign installed: in addition to the names (if any could be established), add a description of the operation as a whole and the specific battle in particular. So people know how the soldiers died.
          Good suggestion! Moreover, a memorial plaque is a necessary minimum of the memory that society should give to the defenders of its land. And to this plate, if you have the means and conscience, you can "attach" a memorial.
      2. Dym71
        Dym71 18 December 2019 17: 47
        +3
        Quote: Alex Rex
        https://varlamov.ru/3673106.html

        Are you referring to Oduvan's blog? So there every gopher is an agronomist. Varlamov wrote at least one word about the budget of the Lunginsky-Maidan settlement?
        You read reviews here:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oZ4ZCU8_Os
        There, people write from the plow, and in fact!
        And in VO also does not hurt to go over the comments on this news yes
        https://topwar.ru/164867-glava-selskogo-poselenija-v-mordovii-obshil-pamjatnik-pavshim-v-vov-sajdingom-i-otvetil-na-kritiku.html
      3. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 18 December 2019 20: 06
        +3
        I think they did as best they could neatly without neglecting the memory of the fallen
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 19 December 2019 17: 16
          +1
          Quote: Ryaruav
          I think they did as best they could neatly without neglecting the memory of the fallen

          Made on a budget. And this is a reproach not to residents or their administration, but to those who are taller. Now in small settlements the population and budget are decreasing, respectively. And for medicine and for schools, not everywhere it is now. It’s also about maintaining memorable places. Capitalism is not interesting.
    3. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 22 December 2019 19: 23
      +1
      Quote: GKS 2111
      Good news, damn it.

      ... if together we fall three together, we will test the gate!
  2. Svarog
    Svarog 18 December 2019 16: 46
    +13
    It is unfortunate, of course, that everything is so neglected in Rossosh that without recommendations from the outside they cannot even install a memorial sign on their own, so everyone doesn’t care.

    The situation at Rossosh simply reflects the approach of most officials. In a country where the presence of money is the only thing important for everyone, they will easily forget about the Second World War and the USSR .. It is important not to allow this, at least at their level and to the extent of their modest capabilities. And what is important is that when people are not silent, at least something moves .. and many here try to shut up their mouths ... and it will be like in Paris or Ukraine ..
  3. nikolai.kolya
    nikolai.kolya 18 December 2019 16: 47
    0
    we all prefer to celebrate victories rather than remember the fallen (as did the front-line soldiers!)
    1. businessv
      businessv 18 December 2019 16: 58
      +10
      Quote: nikolai.kolya
      we all prefer to celebrate victories rather than remember the fallen (as did the front-line soldiers!)

      You are wrong, colleague! On Victory Day, always, no matter where we celebrate this Day, the third toast (abbreviated TT) is always for the fallen, without clinking glasses. The same thing on the Day of the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan. Thanks to Roman for his indifference and the right actions! hi
      1. Voyager
        Voyager 18 December 2019 17: 10
        +7
        At any public event, concert, a minute of silence is always declared. From year to year I observe.
    2. knn54
      knn54 18 December 2019 17: 05
      +11
      Unfortunately, many do not know how the Great Patriotic War differs from the Second World War.
      I was in fourth grade when May 9th was a holiday.
      Then another 40 ..45 year old veterans gathered at the table, commemorated the dead, rejoiced that they had survived,
      And the war was hardly remembered ...
      1. bondrostov
        bondrostov 18 December 2019 19: 50
        0
        Quote: knn54
        Unfortunately, many do not know how the Great Patriotic War differs from the Second World War.

        This is unfortunately ignorance and not education .. thanks to our authorities for YSU
        1. your1970
          your1970 22 December 2019 19: 07
          0
          Quote: bondrostov
          This is unfortunately ignorance and not education .. thanks to our authorities for YSU
          -What kind of exam? you collapsed from oak ???1965 year !!!!!!!!!!!!!
          Quote: knn54
          I was in fourth grade when May 9th was a holiday.
          -
      2. Minato2020
        Minato2020 24 December 2019 15: 03
        0
        Quote: knn54
        Unfortunately, many do not know how the Great Patriotic War differs from the Second World War.
        I was in fourth grade when May 9th was a holiday.
        Then another 40 ..45 year old veterans gathered at the table, commemorated the dead, rejoiced that they had survived,
        And the war was hardly remembered ...


        A festive day on May 9 was made by Decree of May 8, 1945, and no one canceled it.

        On May 8, 1945, the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR “On declaring May 9 the Victory Day” was signed: “To commemorate the victorious end of the Great Patriotic War of the Soviet people against the Nazi invaders and the historic victories of the Red Army ... establish that May 9 is the day nationwide celebration - HOLIDAY OF VICTORY.
        May 9 be considered a day off".


        December 24, 1947 was published a document prepared by the Presidium of the Armed Forces:
        “To amend the Decree of May 8, 1945, consider May 9 - Victory Day over Germany - working day".

        For the first time, Victory Day was widely celebrated in the USSR only in the anniversary of 1965, on the day of the celebration of the 20th anniversary of the end of World War II, already under L. Brezhnev.
    3. Prisoner
      Prisoner 18 December 2019 17: 07
      +6
      We have enough for everything and the joy of Victory, and grief for the fallen. It is not worthwhile to start a hackneyed liberoid plate in the subject. And who is it that you all prefer ...? And do not hide behind the war veterans. Damn it! I was only happy for those who care, for their victory it’s not like that, then you’ll get it, sign it.
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      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 18 December 2019 19: 57
        +4
        Regalia were not hung on dogs, and children were dressed up. I even have a photo: I, petty, in person, in a cap and with a toy PCA on my chest. And next to each other is a bear in a vest and a peak. At a school event for Victory Day in elementary grades.
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          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 18 December 2019 20: 00
            0
            New - well forgotten old, comrade liberal.
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      2. Geo⁣
        Geo⁣ 18 December 2019 21: 48
        -1
        Quote: Alex Rex
        children were not dressed up as soldiers!

        You still forbid children to play war games. Let them grow more tolerant.
    5. 210ox
      210ox 18 December 2019 17: 24
      +7
      It’s interesting, when will this hat with a feather be removed? .. Dreams .... It’s bad that there are no war veterans left. They would not allow it to be established. I can’t imagine what it was installed in the 60s, 70s, 80s .. The diving there ended up in the administration.
  4. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 18 December 2019 16: 48
    +12
    The main thing is thanks to Roman! Of course, reposting is good, but without the energy and perseverance that Roman showed, nothing would have moved!
  5. Rostislav Bely
    Rostislav Bely 18 December 2019 17: 02
    0
    God help you!
  6. Basarev
    Basarev 18 December 2019 17: 10
    -1
    Maybe now let's get to something really big?
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 18 December 2019 17: 23
      +1
      Why bother? Details of search units in the public domain. It is no secret that only thanks to them are monuments to the fallen in many regions of the country.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 18 December 2019 17: 26
        +3
        Monuments are a real trifle against the backdrop of truly enormous tasks. I am talking about the creation of the Party, about organized voting, about access to parliament, and about the expulsion of the bucket and personally of the person. The country needs a new course, feasible only by the new party in power. The bucket is of interest only personal loot, the country bucket to the bulb, the people against the bucket.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 18 December 2019 17: 35
          +1
          Until we have a civil society, no party will work in the interests of the people. All will row to themselves.
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 18 December 2019 17: 38
            +2
            Therefore, I propose to create a party at first from the VO asset. We are honest people.
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 18 December 2019 17: 48
              +3
              Here we tried to create a semblance of civil society in a single HOA. Most do not care about the interests of their own home, and here we are trying to control the country. We forgot how to help each other. But worth the effort.
            2. rocket757
              rocket757 18 December 2019 17: 52
              +2
              Quote: Basarev
              Therefore, I propose to create a party at first from the VO asset. We are honest people.

              Party of honest people ???
              And what programs, PLATFORM? Against whom and for whom?
              1. bondrostov
                bondrostov 18 December 2019 19: 55
                +2
                Quote: rocket757
                Party of honest people ???

                The idea is good, unfortunately a little feasible as soon as the issue concerns contributing so ......
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 18 December 2019 21: 24
                  +1
                  Quote: bondrostov
                  The idea is good, unfortunately a little feasible as soon as the issue concerns contributions so ......

                  Yes, party ticket office, this object is attractive to many !!!
                  And so, in life, the most objective, honest, were, are and will be organizations in labor collectives! the larger the team, the better when EVERYTHING is in sight and everyone knows about everyone.
                  Therefore, the labor movement was ALWAYS the most productive.
            3. your1970
              your1970 22 December 2019 19: 10
              +1
              Quote: Basarev
              Therefore, I propose to create a party at first from the VO asset. We are honest people.
              - that's why it comes to fights .... reconcile for the beginning Olgovich with Gardamir or me feel for starters ..... and only then start dreaming about the party ....
          2. rocket757
            rocket757 18 December 2019 17: 57
            +1
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            Until we have a civil society

            Civil society is good, BUT it is almost always something in general, nothing and nothing!
            Success requires something cohesive and sustainable.
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 18 December 2019 18: 05
              +2
              Civil society is the most cohesive and sustainable. In a healthy society and parties will be healthy. You can, of course, solve some problems with a whistle, but as soon as this very whistle stops, everything will return to normal.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 18 December 2019 18: 12
                +3
                Okay, show me where NOW you can find a society that is cohesive and stable, friendly and not where they rush at each other!
                I didn’t even speak out at all, but I mean about NOW.
                By the way, as a matter of fact, there are no questions about your statement, BUT what should we do right now ???
                1. AU Ivanov.
                  AU Ivanov. 18 December 2019 20: 16
                  +1
                  Where now? Offhand - the Finns. People are really united, actively participate in the life of their cities and towns. The authorities are forced to reckon with their opinion. They have the following opinion among people: it’s bad to take / give bribes not because they will be punished, but because it is unacceptable, zapadlo, speaking Russian.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 18 December 2019 21: 34
                    +1
                    Quote: AS Ivanov.
                    Offhand - the Finns.

                    There is such a thing, accepted.
                    True, a trifle, if you look closely, the mono population, your nose no longer stick around. You can live like this until you think of starting someone, another ethnic group, to launch yourself.
                    It is not possible to accept as a role model, NOT REALLY.
                    PS ... to be honest, you just forget about such a trifle. By the way, they, too, would be glad if everyone forgot about them!
                  2. your1970
                    your1970 22 December 2019 19: 15
                    0
                    Quote: AS Ivanov.
                    taking / giving bribes is bad, not because they will be punished, but because it is unacceptable, zapadlo, speaking Russian
                    - especially they didn’t like this zapadlo (and maybe they don’t like it now either) CASH customs officers in Svetogorsk / Brusnichke / Peat ....
                    Oh, what a zapadlo for Finnish customs officers, no thanks lol
                    You Tales tell the children at night, we don’t need .........
        2. Geo⁣
          Geo⁣ 18 December 2019 21: 56
          -1
          Quote: Basarev
          The bucket is of interest only personal loot, the country bucket to the bulb, the people against the bucket.
          Are you from a sect? Only sectarians who are not interested in the topic of discussion just start their barrel organ.
          Create your own article with suggestions, and do not get involved in the discussion of the Second World War and the corresponding monuments with a change of topic. A trifle. The trifle is you, and the issue under discussion is important and necessary.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 18 December 2019 17: 49
    +6
    Together it’s fun to pace the open spaces ..... and officials can be kicked only in GOOD! Of course, when they deserved it!
    I am sincerely happy and congratulate everyone on ... victory!
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 18 December 2019 18: 34
      +8
      Victor hi Minus to you, apparently the officials put laughing how could he corrected the situation ..
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 18 December 2019 19: 01
        +2
        Greetings Alexey soldier and thanks.
        Everyone has this, from time to time, there is an "ardent admirer" or a group of such. Spank cons without reading.
        Officials, liberals, ukrososedi, hurray patriots, for striping, everything is stable there. Stable not love, but without fanaticism ... recently our eastern "tomato partners" have done it, you see it really turned them on! It happens.
        Everything passes and this will pass.
  8. Igor Polovodov
    Igor Polovodov 18 December 2019 18: 10
    +1
    It seems that the Monument was deliberately installed sideways, like, "these" eat or not ...
    Verification passed!
    Thank you Roman !!!!!
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 18 December 2019 18: 40
    +4
    Yes, it’s good that so .. Glad ... However, vague doubts plague the administration, a "monetary samum" will swoop down on the administration, if these did not play in the return line ...
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 19 December 2019 17: 33
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      Yes, it’s good that so .. Glad ... However, vague doubts plague the administration, a "monetary samum" will swoop down on the administration, if these did not play in the return line ...

      One can’t imagine what is possible in return. ... Of course, do not leave this administration attention. Thanks to Roman, this happened. Wow!
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  11. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 19 December 2019 04: 40
    +3
    However, it is wonderful that managers are still able to acknowledge, and most importantly, correct their mistakes. It is pleasing and encouraging for the future.
    It was you who hurried up with gratitude, the leaders worked not from admitting a mistake, but from fear "it will reach the top."
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 19 December 2019 17: 35
      0
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      However, it is wonderful that managers are still able to acknowledge, and most importantly, correct their mistakes. It is pleasing and encouraging for the future.
      It was you who hurried up with gratitude, the leaders worked not from admitting a mistake, but from fear "it will reach the top."
      For fear of losing posts.
      1. Nick
        Nick 22 December 2019 00: 15
        0
        Quote: Reptiloid
        For fear of losing posts.

        And it is very good that they have this fear.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 22 December 2019 04: 40
          0
          Quote: Nick
          Quote: Reptiloid
          For fear of losing posts.

          And it is very good that they have this fear.

          The only bad thing is that this fear appears mountainaazdo later done, and not before. But later, too, not immediately, but much after the remarks ((and this is not only about these))
  12. Starper-xnumx
    Starper-xnumx 19 December 2019 19: 15
    -2
    It’s a pity, of course, that everything is so neglected in Rossosh,

    Associations are not men ..? And I got a chuck.
    Well, then Roman appeared .. And I was wary!
    We will read and shoot back hi
  13. Cop
    Cop 20 December 2019 09: 33
    +1
    Our took!
    Yes, Roman, you will not die of modesty. Directly the banner of Victory was hoisted over the Reichskanc ...., well, in the sense of the Rossoshanskaya administration building. You now only have to spend ... Victory parade in front of this very building.
    .... that so many resources are reprinting ....
    Why are you surprised? Yes, if they like to like your article, even Medusa and Fontanka ru will reprint it.
    “Turn the stove over, otherwise these come ...”
    Yes, it could have been so, but I’m afraid that after the word “these” there was some other word ....
    Now everything looks decent and clear.
    Somehow you suspiciously quickly change your point of view on one and the same event. You have rightly noticed that between the words “died” and “were shot” the difference is the same as between heaven and earth. And now everything seems decent. What influenced that?
    However, it is wonderful that managers are still able to acknowledge, and most importantly, correct their mistakes. It is pleasing and encouraging for the future.
    Yes, Roman, you are a cynical person .... You understand very well where the legs grow from the outrages created by the Rossoshan administration. Now, if you looked at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEGwm_rpCa4 ..., in that part where the answer was made to Mr. Sokurov, and then they wrote an article about it, showed t .with. true patriotism, and not the bastard that you generate instead of it, and others ... the patriotic editions reprinted it, and then they suddenly picked it up and listened .... Yes, in this case, Mr. Mishankov and Kobylkin will bypass versts of veterans and their descendants, for example, the Julia division. You, Roman, a talented publicist, listen to you even at the local level. Who knows, suddenly after the publication of this article they will listen to you at a higher ..... Go for it! Good luck and success! Sincerely your reader.