The latest Peresvet laser systems covered Yars and Topol-M

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The latest Peresvet laser systems covered Yars and Topol-M

The latest Peresvet laser systems are used to cover mobile ground missile systems (PGRK) from the Strategic Missile Forces. This practice has been introduced since the beginning of December this year. This was announced by the head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Valery Gerasimov.

Speaking at a briefing before the military attaches of foreign countries, Gerasimov said that the Russian Peresvet laser systems are used to cover the positions of the Yars and Topol-M mobile ground missile systems (PGRK).



Since the beginning of December, the Peresvet laser systems have been on alert in the positional areas of mobile ground missile systems with the task of covering up their maneuvering operations

- he explained.

Earlier, the Ministry of Defense reported that the Peresvet laser systems took up combat pilot duty on December 1, 2018.

Peresvet lasers belong to the latest Russian strategic arms. The characteristics of the complex are not disclosed, it is known that combat lasers are located in special vans of the Asteys company (Tatarstan, Naberezhnye Chelny). Specialists of the federal nuclear center in Sarov were engaged in the production of the Peresvet laser complex, and calculations were made at the Mozhaisky Military Space Academy.
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    1. +19
      18 December 2019 09: 42
      "Peresvet lasers are among the newest Russian strategic weapons." - Can anyone explain about the "strategic"?
      1. SSR
        +23
        18 December 2019 09: 48
        Quote: Sergst
        Can anyone explain about "strategic"?

        +
        It seems to me "strategic" is from a journalist.
        1. +2
          18 December 2019 18: 01
          Quote from S.S.R.
          It seems to me "strategic" is from a journalist

          In military terminology, the word "strategic" refers to the general plan of a battle, "tactical" refers to the more minor issues of combat. In this case, Peresvet, as a missile defense element, works against the enemy's strategic weapons, so the term is applied quite correctly. For example, SDI is the Strategic Defense Initiative. It did not work against the cities and towns of the enemy, but against the strategic nuclear forces. Peresvet is an element of our missile defense and SDI. Certainly in the very near future will go to the satellites. Immediately took under the protection of the mine, our main strategic nuclear forces.
      2. 0
        18 December 2019 09: 48
        Quote: Sergst
        "Peresvet lasers are among the newest Russian strategic weapons." - Can anyone explain about the "strategic"?

        The purpose of Relight is to counteract any air attack and, in addition, it even has the ability to shoot down satellites in orbit! Relight complements the capabilities of air defense systems. What is known from those grains of information that was from Relight.
        Accordingly, it makes changes in the strategic alignment of forces! hi
        1. -16
          18 December 2019 09: 53
          Quote: ANIMAL
          Peresvet appointment - counteraction to any air attack


          I wonder what kind of "air attacks" are expected in the Yars deployment areas.
          1. +4
            18 December 2019 09: 55
            Do you understand what missile defense is?
            Quote: Good_Anonymous
            Quote: ANIMAL
            Peresvet appointment - counteraction to any air attack


            I wonder what kind of "air attacks" are expected in the Yars deployment areas.
            1. -5
              18 December 2019 09: 58
              Quote: ANIMAL
              Do you understand what missile defense is?


              Yes, and you? Do you really think that "Peresvet" is a missile defense laser? If so, what is your opinion based on and what gives "Peresvet" target designation? About what a missile defense radar is - see A-135.
              1. +8
                18 December 2019 10: 00
                Apparently still not! Relight - Complementes the capabilities of the air defense system! Ie - they work in COMPLEX!
                1. -1
                  18 December 2019 10: 02
                  Quote: ANIMAL
                  Apparently still not!


                  Yes, yes.

                  Quote: ANIMAL
                  Relight - Complementes the capabilities of the air defense system!


                  Perfectly. And how does he complement them?
                  1. +1
                    18 December 2019 10: 12
                    And this All is unknown to Us! Since Secrecy! Skipped information from the Ministry of Defense.
                    1. +4
                      18 December 2019 10: 41
                      That's it - secrecy. And from reasonable assumptions, only one thing is to mold reconnaissance satellites over deployment areas.
                      1. +4
                        18 December 2019 11: 18
                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        And from reasonable assumptions, only one thing is to mold reconnaissance satellites over deployment areas.

                        In your opinion this is not enough?
                  2. SSR
                    +1
                    18 December 2019 19: 41
                    Quote: Good_Anonymous
                    Perfectly. And how does he complement them?

                    Most will not answer you. From open sources "Peresvet" can "dazzle", but strategies will not tell you how "Peresvet" can blind the warhead of a "minuteman" or "trident" "tomohawk" yes, it can probably, although we have good electronic warfare for this.
                    Quote: Good_Anonymous
                    And from reasonable assumptions, only one thing is to mold reconnaissance satellites over deployment areas.

                    + this has a basis for the "strategic", although if we compare with airplanes, it is comparable to the Tu22M but not to the Tu160, clouds and clouds, and it does not blind, everyone is already blind.
                    but you already missed the minuses from the crackers)))
                    Quote: ANIMAL
                    Apparently still not! Relight - Complementes the capabilities of the air defense system!

                    That is, the SAM is a strategist and then ABM then who?))
                    In general, either a journalist, or we are in a hurry to "make" a strategist from Peresvet.)))
                    1. 0
                      18 December 2019 21: 11
                      Quote from S.S.R.
                      From open sources "Peresvet" can "blind"


                      Well, suddenly there is already some new data.
          2. +13
            18 December 2019 10: 36
            Quote: Good_Anonymous
            I wonder what kind of "air attacks" are expected in the Yars deployment areas.

            Cruise missile attacks. Americans don’t really hide it ...
            1. +5
              18 December 2019 11: 09
              Attacks by cruise missiles (with a flying time of hours) on mobile missile systems?
              1. -1
                18 December 2019 11: 18
                Quote: Good_Anonymous
                Attacks by cruise missiles (with a flying time of hours) on mobile missile systems?

                Well, yes.
                You recall that these CDs have nuclear warheads, therefore, a direct hit is not required?
                1. -1
                  18 December 2019 11: 19
                  Quote: Spade
                  Attacks by cruise missiles (with a flying time of hours) on mobile missile systems?

                  Well, yes.


                  And "Peresvet" should shoot them down?

                  Quote: Spade
                  Remind you


                  Do not.
                  1. +4
                    18 December 2019 11: 30
                    Quote: Good_Anonymous
                    And "Peresvet" should shoot them down?

                    Rather, he should not allow to reveal the routes of mobile complexes.
                    1. +3
                      18 December 2019 11: 32
                      Well, that is to mold satellites. The most realistic assumption.
                      1. +5
                        18 December 2019 12: 18
                        Realistic?
                        In order for the satellite to hang in place and monitor the area, it must be in geostationary orbit
                        This, for a moment, is 36 km high
                        1. +2
                          18 December 2019 12: 25
                          Scout satellites do not hang in geostationary orbit.
                        2. +2
                          18 December 2019 12: 44
                          then they cannot be permanently located over one area
                        3. +1
                          18 December 2019 12: 51
                          They are not located. Moments of the passage of satellites, by the way, are taken into account in the work.
                        4. +3
                          18 December 2019 12: 57
                          Clear
                          it’s not easier just to take into account, and not to turn back such an expensive laser for this
                        5. 0
                          18 December 2019 12: 59
                          I unreasonably believe that this is for the "threatened period" when there is no time to wait for the passage.
                        6. +1
                          19 December 2019 03: 05
                          Well, SBIRS and be at the geostationary. Your assumption regarding the purpose of the laser is absolutely correct.
                        7. -1
                          18 December 2019 13: 03
                          Quote: Good_Anonymous
                          Scout satellites do not hang in geostationary orbit.

                          Even as they hang, but not only everything smile
                        8. -3
                          18 December 2019 13: 08
                          And which of the American hang? Lacrosse and Keyhole just fly lower.
                        9. 0
                          20 December 2019 09: 25
                          And which of the American hang? Lacrosse and Keyhole just fly lower.

                          It is possible to organize the work of view-reconnaissance satellites in such a way as to constantly be able to observe certain points on the surface of the Earth (similarly to how GPS and Glonass do it, although this is more complicated). All satellites are even commercial from Google there, etc. in the US for dual use. The question is in their required quantity. In addition, do not forget that in the USA they actively use x-37b targets and whose tasks are not clear.
                        10. +1
                          20 December 2019 09: 45
                          Quote: adept666

                          Organize the work of satellites for intelligence reconnaissance in such a way as to constantly be able to observe certain points on the surface


                          This is clear. The thing is that they are still in relatively low orbits.

                          Quote: adept666
                          do not forget in the USA actively use x-37b


                          As far as I know, it also operates in relatively low orbits.
                    2. 0
                      18 December 2019 13: 52
                      Quote: Spade
                      Rather, he should not allow to reveal the routes of mobile complexes.

                      It is like a sunbeam from a mirror - "I am here" ... (glare does not occur immediately and not on all optics).
                      1. 0
                        18 December 2019 14: 07
                        Quote: Genry
                        It is like a sunbeam from a mirror - "I am here" ... (glare does not occur immediately and not on all optics).

                        Rather like a laser pointer in the eyes of the pilot of a landing plane. Or a lamp in the eyes of the interrogated "in the dungeons of the NKVD."
                        Or even as the Soviet PAPV station for tank optics.

                        But blinding will not occur only in that optics, which is closed by an opaque shutter.
                        1. +1
                          18 December 2019 14: 11
                          Quote: Spade
                          But blinding will not occur only in that optics, which is closed by an opaque shutter.

                          But what, there are no intermediate positions between open and closed (diaphragm)? And there are no spectral filters?
                        2. +3
                          18 December 2019 14: 16
                          Quote: Genry
                          But what, there are no intermediate positions between open and closed (diaphragm)? And there are no spectral filters?

                          Question: how transparent will the burnt spectral filter be?
                          Question: why didn’t the pilots squint to eliminate the effect of the laser pointer?
                        3. +1
                          18 December 2019 14: 22
                          Quote: Spade
                          Question: how transparent will the burnt spectral filter be?

                          Tortured! Mineral materials you should heat up to the melting point and only then they will begin to burn out.
                          They are almost identical to the lens of the laser itself.
                          Quote: Spade
                          Question: why didn’t the pilots squint to eliminate the effect of the laser pointer?

                          Have you seen them not squinting? And in the eye there is an iris (diaphragm).
                        4. +3
                          18 December 2019 15: 11
                          Quote: Genry
                          Mineral materials you must precisely heat to the melting point

                          As required.
                          Dear, Russian lasers are used for remote cutting of well heads during fire fighting.

                          Quote: Genry
                          Have you seen them not squinting?

                          I know. that nothing helped them.
                          Let me give you a flashlight in your eyes, and you will try to see me. Squinting 8)))))))))))))))
                        5. +1
                          18 December 2019 15: 48
                          Quote: Spade
                          As required.

                          This phrase, without proof itself, is stupid.
                          Quote: Spade
                          Dear, Russian lasers are used for remote cutting of well heads during fire fighting.

                          You confuse warm and soft. The laser beam, at large distances, simply loses its concentration - it diverges at the angle of the aperture. Nothing you will not heat them, or, moreover, will not cut.
                          And you need to cut the material that is used in the lens of your laser. If it melts there, then your laser has already evaporated.
                        6. 0
                          18 December 2019 15: 53
                          Quote: Genry
                          This phrase, without proof itself, is stupid.

                          Are you stupid about your own words? Original.

                          Quote: Genry
                          You confuse warm and soft. The laser beam, at large distances, simply loses its concentration - it diverges at the angle of the aperture. Nothing you will not heat them, or, moreover, will not cut.

                          It all depends on its power.
                        7. +1
                          18 December 2019 15: 52
                          Quote: Spade
                          I know. that nothing helped them.
                          Let me give you a flashlight in your eyes, and you will try to see me. Squinting 8)))))))))))))))

                          Why then do not cling flashlights to weapons and head helmets? So they would go to blind the enemy!
                        8. +2
                          18 December 2019 15: 57
                          Quote: Genry
                          Why then do not cling flashlights to weapons and head helmets? So they would go to blind the enemy!

                          Who told you that they don't cling? 8))) There are even strobe lights that use the so-called. "Booch effect"
                        9. +1
                          18 December 2019 16: 10
                          Quote: Spade
                          Are you stupid about your own words? Original.

                          What are my words?
                          And do not try to chatter on empty bickering.
                          Quote: Spade
                          It all depends on its power.

                          What is "everything"?
                          They say it when they don’t know what to say.
                          And my thesis: "If you melt there, then your laser will already evaporate." - you somehow got around. Can't find the words to defend yourself?
                          Quote: Spade
                          Who told you that they don't cling? 8))) There are even strobe lights that use the so-called. "Booch effect"

                          And what is the effect? Police cars ride with strobe lights, planes fly with flashing beacons.
                          You have been seduced by the sale of LED flashlights.
                        10. +1
                          18 December 2019 16: 17
                          Quote: Genry
                          What are my words?

                          The fact that the materials are enough to heat.

                          Quote: Genry
                          What is "everything"?

                          The impact on optics.

                          Quote: Genry
                          And my thesis: "If you melt there, then your laser will already evaporate." - you somehow got around. Can't find the words to defend yourself?

                          And you?
                          There is PAPV, a PORTABLE complex, which successfully disabled optics. And you propose to pretend that it simply did not exist?

                          Quote: Genry
                          And what is the effect?

                          Do you have a flashlight? Turn it on, direct it to your eyes, and try to consider something behind it. This is extremely simple.
                        11. +1
                          18 December 2019 16: 40
                          Quote: Spade
                          The fact that the materials are enough to heat.

                          Heat up? Are you already starting to tell me tales about what I said? Context is more important than words!
                          Quote: Spade
                          There is PAPV, a PORTABLE complex, which successfully disabled optics.

                          He puts a hindrance, blinds the shooter for the duration of the action - and no more. The main thing is that he discovers optics.
                          Quote: Spade
                          Turn it on, direct it to your eyes, and try to consider something behind it. This is extremely simple.

                          I will not see or will poorly see the surrounding objects, because the pupil will narrow and reduce the transmitted light. It is on this principle that "Peresvet" works to draw attention to itself and cover it ....
                          And do not confuse the human eye with an optical sensor that is sharpened for a specific task and can work out many types of interference. And there may be several sensors, spectrally independent - and this is the secret of the confrontation, like in a shell and armor.
                2. +6
                  18 December 2019 12: 15
                  in an hour, the Kyrgyz Republic will fly 900 km, the complex during this time will be removed at least 50 km
                  And the Americans don’t have Tomahawks with JAB - they were all cut by Obama
                  1. +2
                    18 December 2019 12: 20
                    Quote: Avior
                    And the Americans don’t have Tomahawks with JAB - they were all cut by Obama

                    Is that what they say?
                    They lie as usual.
                    1. +2
                      18 December 2019 12: 28
                      Well, yes, Trump lied, he ran into Obama for this, and now they are feverishly writing a replacement for them
                      1. +1
                        18 December 2019 13: 00
                        Quote: Avior
                        Well, yes, Trump lied, he ran into Obama for this, and now they are feverishly writing a replacement for them

                        eight))))))
                        Obama sawed off the wings of all 1142 AGM-86B ALCM missiles?
                3. 0
                  18 December 2019 12: 59
                  KR with JABCH American-what? Axes dial-up?
              2. 0
                18 December 2019 11: 43
                Good_Anonymus (Vasily)

                Attacks by cruise missiles (with a flying time of hours) on mobile missile systems?

                we don’t need to paint your alternative vision. For 15P155M there are deployment bases and deployment areas. Both this and that can become the goal of the Kyrgyz Republic In addition, there are missile arsenals, RTBs and the Central Bank of nuclear weapons. They are certainly goals No. 2 after the launchers themselves (both mobile and mine)
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                2. +5
                  18 December 2019 12: 21
                  deployment area is not a kilometer per kilometer site
                  and no one will shoot at the area of ​​the Kyrgyz Republic, it makes no sense
                  and the Americans have no nuclear Tomahawks
              3. 0
                18 December 2019 18: 59
                Quote: Good_Anonymous
                Attacks by cruise missiles (with a flying time of hours) on mobile missile systems?

                For explored positions - the possibility of using CR was always taken into account. And such divisions as Kozelskaya, Teykovskaya, Bologoevskaya may well be subjected to air raids in the event of a war using OSB.
          3. +1
            18 December 2019 11: 07
            Quote: Good_Anonymous
            I wonder what "air attacks" are expected in the Yarso deployment areas

            only nuclear warheads from enemy territory
        2. +14
          18 December 2019 10: 01
          It makes no sense to talk about "any air attack" until the performance characteristics are made public. In the meantime, you can assume (without any reason) anything you want: from highlighting targets, dazzling onboard optics and destroying drones-small sizes to shooting at alien bases on the satellites of Saturn.
        3. +2
          18 December 2019 10: 04
          Satellites in orbit? What a horror !!! And wherever he reaches with his energy, to which orbit ??? Have you read science fiction?
          1. +11
            18 December 2019 10: 26
            Quote: Minus
            Satellites in orbit? What a horror !!! And wherever he reaches with his energy, to which orbit ??? Have you read science fiction?

            And what kind of energy does he have, voice the numbers please
          2. +7
            18 December 2019 10: 38
            Quote: Minus
            Satellites in orbit?

            Probably yes. And to disable optics of the energy satellite is likely enough.
          3. 0
            18 December 2019 14: 00
            But if he has a rated power of more than 1 MW, then he will get to the DOE, with focusing the problem seems to be solved, as well as overcoming the clouds.
          4. +2
            18 December 2019 14: 00
            But what, for overloading or incapacitation of photodetectors of optical devices of low-orbit devices, a lot of energy is needed?
        4. +8
          18 December 2019 10: 40
          Quote: ANIMAL
          The purpose of Relight is to counteract any air attack and, in addition, it even has the ability to shoot down satellites in orbit!

          no one said this, not even the president.
          These are the journalists in ecstasy.
          Even Terra-3 (KSV PRO and PKO “T-3”) 5N26 / LE-1

          collided not practicable ideas of defeating the HBPB laser

          and satellites too
          1984 October 10 - the 5N26 / LE-1 laser locator measured the parameters of the target - the Challenger reusable spacecraft (USA).

          1. +3
            18 December 2019 14: 04
            The fact of the matter is that Terra 3 is a laser radar range finder - but not a combat laser. 36 years have passed since then, energy and materials do not stand still; the development of chemical, solid-state, gas lasers continues.
        5. -1
          18 December 2019 11: 48
          Here about high-altitude targets and satellites big doubts! He talked with a knowledgeable person at one time and received an exhaustive answer stating that the atmosphere was an almost impossible barrier to the propagation of a laser beam. Energy costs are colossal. But experiments on the destruction of orbital objects using microwave radiation are quite real.
          1. -3
            18 December 2019 15: 25
            Quote: Xenofont
            that the atmosphere is an almost insurmountable barrier to the propagation of a laser beam. Energy costs are colossal.

            this is not true
            1. laser location of the moon
            In 1965, observations were made that had a measurement error of only 200 meters, and
            this error was due to the relief of the moon, and not the equipment of the observatory.
            Since 1969 and later, the location was conducted along the reflectors, and not along the ground. Due to this, the measurement error decreased to 3 meters and continued to decrease as the laser improved. (Observations in
            KrAO ceased in 1983 in connection with the closure of the lunar program of the USSR.)
            ...
            : Observatoire de la Côte d'Azur (OCA).
            In 1986, the ruby ​​laser was replaced by YAG, and in 2009 the MeO laser began to work.

            2.Laser communication with the moon set a speed record / A new NASA laser communication system called LLCD set a record for data transmission speed in space.
            The pilot system consists of laser transceivers: one is located at a ground station in New Mexico, and the second is on the LADEE spacecraft, which is currently in orbit of the moon.

            LLCD operates at a record speed of 622 megabits per second. For a distance of more than 380 km (there + back + atmosphere t + o) - this is an excellent indicator
            1. -1
              18 December 2019 16: 12
              We are talking about different things. Power transmission is still a problem. And specify: scanning was conducted from the surface or from satellites?
              1. -3
                18 December 2019 16: 35
                Quote: Xenofont
                We are talking about different things. Power transmission is still a problem

                so the law of inverse squares is always the law. where already
                but
                Small Laser-propelled Interstellar Probe
                Geoffrey A. Landis Ohio Aerospace Institute
                NASA Lewis Research Center 302-1
                21000 Brookpark Road, Cleveland, OH 44135 USA Paper IAA-95-IAA.4.1.102 Presented at the 46th International Astronautical Congress,
                October 1995, Oslo, Norway

                or

                Quote: Xenofont
                And specify: scanning was conducted from the surface or from satellites?

                The moon?
                Yes
                Quote: opus
                Observatoire de la Côte d'Azur (OCA)

                connection too

                Quote: opus
                one is posted on groundth station in new mexico
                1. -1
                  18 December 2019 17: 09
                  Agree, the desert is a characteristic place ...
                  1. -3
                    18 December 2019 17: 26
                    Quote: Xenofont
                    Agree, the desert is a characteristic place ...

                    What does it change?
                    The same 100km (STO) to the Karmana line + almost 400000km to the Moon
                    1.Now adaptive optics
                    2.Now "other" lasers
                    3. The sources of energy are again different.
                    1. -1
                      18 December 2019 17: 30
                      Let’s do this: you will give me the fact of the fatal impact of LL on an object at a height of at least 5 km, not even from a mobile source, and I will take it on faith.
                      1. -2
                        18 December 2019 17: 52
                        Quote: Xenofont
                        Let's do this: you bring me

                        1. I am not under that I did not subscribe, incl. let's "don't give"
                        2. I just wrote
                        Quote: Xenofont
                        what the atmosphere isalmost impossible barrier to the propagation of the laser beam. Energy costs are colossal.

                        Quote: opus
                        it not true

                        Can you read?
                        3. I know about "2 km", since you are so pissed off

                        2013: Düsseldorf-based Rheinmetall Defense recently tested a 50kW, high-energy laser at their proving ground facility in Switzerland. According to the company, the laser passed the test with “flying colors.”
                        The system isn't actually a single laser but two laser modules mounted onto Revolver Gun air defense turrets made by Oerlikon and attached to additional power modules. The laser modules are 30 kW and 20 kW, but a Beam Superimposing Technology (BST) combines two lasers to focus in a “superimposed, cumulative manner” that wreaks havoc on its targets.
                        First, the system sliced ​​through a 15mm- (~ 0.6 inches) thick steel girder from a kilometer away. Then, from a distance of two kilometers, it shot down a handful of drones as they nose-dived toward the surface at 50 meters per second. The laser's radar, a widely used system called Skyguard, was capable of tracking the drones through their descent up to three kilometers away.

                        What is translated into the language of our aspens:

                        from a distance two kilometers he shot down several drones when they flew nose to the surface at a speed of 50 meters per second.
                        Then a 82 mm diameter steel ball (warhead simulator) was destroyed, moving at a speed of 50 meters per second.

                        And it's not about the power of the beam, just

                        Lidar, which used a system called the Skyguard, was able to track drones by their descent to a distance up to three kilometers
                        now they are testing 60kW, saying in a press release that “nothing prevents the future [high-energy laser] weapon system from having a power of 100kW.

                        And the height here is not a problem, the problem is range, and at 5 km the dispersion and loss will be almost equal to the data at 2 km
                        1. 0
                          18 December 2019 18: 05
                          You go beyond politeness. Then I stop communication.
        6. -5
          18 December 2019 11: 49
          About satellites you invented it yourself?
          So far, the installations have not shown that they are shooting down at least some miserable drone.
          And for satellite zbitiya power needed in thousands of kW
          1. +5
            18 December 2019 12: 00
            Thousands of kW are called MW - зglad abo overpower? laughing
            1. -1
              18 December 2019 16: 58
              Your "subtle" humor will not change the laws of physics. And no satellites "Peresvet" will begin to shoot down.
          2. -1
            18 December 2019 12: 54
            Stupidity. Beam divergence will not allow this. And the fact is that the enemy of light is the atmosphere. At a distance of 100 km, the diameter of the laser spot will be around 20 meters. An increase in power will lead to ionization breakdown of the atmosphere by lightning type with a catastrophic beam divergence not in the atmosphere, but in the plasma.
            1. -1
              18 December 2019 14: 06
              This problem was solved in the 80s.
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        8. 0
          18 December 2019 13: 45
          Quote: ANIMAL
          The purpose of Relight is to counteract any air attack and, in addition, it even has the ability to shoot down satellites in orbit! Relight complements the capabilities of air defense systems.

          Well, you collected fables.
          Relight only blinds, not destroys.
          Blinding the "partner" reconnaissance means makes it impossible for them to use their missile defense system at the vulnerable stages of launching Russian strategic missiles.
        9. -1
          20 December 2019 12: 24
          Quote: ANIMAL
          The purpose of Peresvet is to counteract any air attack and, in addition, it even has the opportunity shoot down satellites in orbit!
          Cho for heresy belay wassat belay
      3. +3
        18 December 2019 09: 51
        So far, their real performance characteristics have not been disclosed.
        For this reason, it is difficult to judge their capabilities.
        In the event that they can seriously counter strategic strike weapons, they themselves may well be classified as strategic.
        Again, for potential adversaries, such systems are under development and have not been adopted.
        That is, it is currently a unique system and possibly gives some strategic advantage.
        However, so far this is truly secret, which does not allow the general public to judge the real potential of the system.
        1. +2
          18 December 2019 09: 57
          How to MINIMUM- detect targets and conduct their laser illumination, disable aviation, satellite and rocket optics to shoot down small drones.
          1. -3
            18 December 2019 10: 11
            Quote: knn54
            disable aircraft, satellite and rocket optics to shoot down small drones.


            In addition to satellites, where does all this come from in the Yars deployment areas?
            1. 0
              19 December 2019 06: 11
              a group of saboteurs for reconnaissance can send drones. and discovery. target of attack
        2. -5
          18 December 2019 10: 05
          Quote: Livonetc
          Again, potential adversaries have similar systems under development


          What "similar" ones - do you know the purpose of "Peresvet"? Or does "similarity" mean size?
          1. +1
            18 December 2019 10: 22
            so imperceptibly The future has come ... "Engineer Garin" smiles while smoking somewhere on a cloud.
            1. +2
              18 December 2019 13: 12
              Engineer Garin had no laser
      4. +2
        18 December 2019 10: 34
        Quote: Sergst
        "Peresvet lasers are among the newest Russian strategic weapons." -

        Since the beginning of December, the Peresvet laser systems have been on alert in the positional areas of mobile ground missile systems with the task of covering up their maneuvering operations
        - Gerasimov said.
        about "the strategy is not gu-gu"
        Quote from S.S.R.
        It seems to me "strategic" is from a journalist.

        Yeah
        The complex is able to effectively counter any air attack and even fight satellites in orbit, according to the department’s Facebook (Ministry of Defense)
        / this was not reported
      5. +2
        18 December 2019 10: 48
        The latest Peresvet laser systems covered Yars and Topoli-M

        1. +1
          18 December 2019 11: 15
          Is this "suitcase" really dragged behind our Yars through the woods? Or is he stupidly standing near the garage?
          1. +5
            18 December 2019 11: 25
            Quote: Gritsa
            Is this "suitcase" really dragged behind our Yars through the woods?

            One suitcase more, one less, no difference. There, Yars itself is like a suitcase, and around it there is still a handful of Vskoy - an engineering reconnaissance machine, security, etc.
      6. 0
        18 December 2019 11: 19
        Quote: Sergst
        "Peresvet lasers are among the newest Russian strategic weapons." - Can anyone explain about the "strategic"?

        Thanks for the comments! Given the (likely) possibility of satellites being blinded, the term "strategic" has become more valid.
      7. +1
        18 December 2019 15: 46
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      8. -1
        19 December 2019 16: 46
        I'm afraid, with all the desire to explain about the "strategic", I will not have enough education ......) you need to ask the journalists ...
    2. +4
      18 December 2019 09: 44
      It is good that our laser weapons are already on duty, covering our ICBM systems. hi
      1. +4
        18 December 2019 10: 16
        I agree. And then they argue here ... Once on duty - it means it is necessary, then it is in demand.
    3. +8
      18 December 2019 09: 44
      Does Peresvet have nuclear pumping? I see no other way to charge a high-energy laser without a cable.
      1. +8
        18 December 2019 09: 48
        There is such a suspicion, especially judging by the manufacturer:

        Specialists from the federal nuclear center in Sarov
        1. +3
          18 December 2019 10: 31
          We have specialists in different profiles! For example, they did a tandem warhead for * Sturm *, it is from open sources, and what else is there, like in a cartoon- * Everything that is unknown is terribly interesting! All that is interesting is terribly unknown! *
      2. SSR
        +5
        18 December 2019 09: 50
        Quote: Yrec
        Does Peresvet have nuclear pumping?

        No matter how "wild" it may sound, it is quite possible, taking into account the fact that the compact installation was embodied in the "Petrel".
        1. +5
          18 December 2019 09: 55
          Moreover, this is in principle not new.
          Nuclear installations were also available on Soviet military satellites.
          This is their further development.
          No matter how anyone jerks, Russia is able to use not only raw materials.
          1. SSR
            +5
            18 December 2019 09: 58
            Quote: Livonetc
            No matter how anyone mocked, Russia is capable of

            + On nuclear installations, our oh, how far away from everyone has gone.
        2. +1
          18 December 2019 10: 33
          Why wild? Back in the USSR, compact nuclear installations were developed.
          1. 0
            18 December 2019 13: 44
            The problem is not only the compactness of the energy source (nuclear or powder mdg generator), but also its storage and delivery in the form of a powerful pulse. Capacitors with magnetic sharpeners all have very large dimensions, especially when it comes to the power needed to hit anything heavier than the quadrocopter.
            And the other way is explosion generators, it seems they are not friends with reusable nuclear energy sources. bully
            Of course, all this is very interesting, how it was implemented and what can. But we can only satisfy our curiosity when such information loses the stamp laughing
            1. 0
              18 December 2019 14: 10
              Most likely, new superionistors are used to store and transfer electricity.
              1. 0
                18 December 2019 16: 00
                A supercapacitor is too "slow" capacitor compared to even a conventional electrolytic one (and this is its fundamental feature), let alone special pulsed capacitors for lasers. Here his capacity is correct, a little more and will be a competitor for lead-acid batteries.
      3. +3
        18 December 2019 10: 01
        Quote: Yrec
        Does Peresvet have nuclear pumping?
        - answer in article The Peresvet laser complex was produced by specialists from the Federal Nuclear Center in Sarov
        1. +2
          18 December 2019 14: 15
          And here is the first sample of Peresvet "In 2012, it was reported that a gas laser pumped from a nuclear reactor, operating on the atomic transition of xenon, with a wavelength of 2,03 μm was created at RFNC-VNIITF (Snezhinsk). The output energy of the laser pulse was 500 J at a peak power of 1,3 MW This device is the most compact in terms of the volume of active gas medium used (specific energy of laser radiation was 32 J / dm³). Only the latter is a thousand times more powerful.
    4. +6
      18 December 2019 09: 47
      The Peresvet laser complex was manufactured by specialists from the Federal Nuclear Center in Sarov, and calculations were prepared on the basis of the Mozhaisky Military Space Academy (VKA).


      "Black box", many want to look into it.
      1. -2
        18 December 2019 09: 51
        Quote: cniza
        "Black box", many want to look into it.

        A curious Barbara, then the nose can be shortened! In some cases, very radical!
        All the same, this is the first experiment with the operation of this type of equipment. There will be further development of this topic, it is now obvious!
        Not only with us.
        1. 0
          18 December 2019 10: 00
          the nose can be shortened


          Yeah, to my ears ...
          1. 0
            18 December 2019 11: 18
            It's right, the most unexpected trump card to keep up your sleeve!
            Zabugornye and so warned, warned again, but they all numb!
            However, the militant "hawks" have such a job, to scare the man in the street and lure deny under this business! That's about all sorts of scavenger vultures, I don't even want to talk about it, there is such a dukhan, be-ee.
            1. +3
              18 December 2019 12: 11
              However, the militant "hawks" have such a job, to scare the man in the street and lure deny under this business!


              Oh, that they most of all love and know how.
              1. 0
                18 December 2019 12: 19
                Quote: cniza
                Oh, that they most of all love and know how.

                Not all money goes to nothing, it’s too painful to use it a lot! Armed to the teeth, so those who are weaker they think ...
                Moreover, financially, they tied many to themselves tightly, and this is a serious argument in any dispute.
                Now only some semblance of resistance is being organized, it is besides those to whom the Yankees are afraid to approach, because of SCARY!
                We will see how it goes further.
                1. +2
                  18 December 2019 12: 22
                  This is a confrontation for a long time, but there is no other way, otherwise they will sit on their heads and milk.
                  1. +2
                    18 December 2019 12: 29
                    Time it is, immense, but plays on the one who uses this factor correctly.
                    So let's hope that in the world many have realized that the time of such a dominant as minke whales has ended!
                    1. +3
                      18 December 2019 12: 31
                      Many have understood this, but they are waiting, and the "exceptional" themselves will not resist childishly.
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      3. +1
        18 December 2019 14: 19
        For them on the program "Field of Miracles" - Yakubovich himself will bring the black boxes and open them.
        1. +1
          18 December 2019 14: 35
          He is a bargain, and illiterate (I do not look, just read Yes ) and his black box is uninteresting.
    5. +8
      18 December 2019 09: 52
      The latest Peresvet laser systems are used to cover mobile ground missile systems (PGRK) from the Strategic Missile Forces. This practice has been introduced since the beginning of December this year. This was announced by the head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Valery Gerasimov.

      When you look at this complex, you understand that it will not go anywhere beyond the concrete site.
      Drown in the nearest puddle.
      But the "Yars" are mounted on an extra-high cross-country chassis.
      And they have such patency - the key to longevity.
      It is impossible to stand in one place to mobile complexes.
      Only movement.
      And how will that "Peresvet" defend that "Yars"?

      Either we are fools who cannot add 2 + 2, or something is wrong in the "conservatory".
      1. +4
        18 December 2019 10: 03
        Well, you can think of a lot. For example, to shine spy in the eye of a satellite / satellites while the yars are moving apart, thus ensuring their covert deployment. In this case, he will not have to go far.
      2. +1
        18 December 2019 10: 07
        Quote: demo
        When you look at this complex, you understand that it will not go anywhere beyond the concrete site.
        Drown in the nearest puddle.
        But the "Yars" are mounted on an extra-high cross-country chassis.

        Is there something preventing you from using the same or similar chassis? Since the presentation of "Peresvet" a lot of water has flowed under the bridge. In addition, Peresvet can certainly be broken into blocks, which cannot be cranked with an ICBM.
      3. -8
        18 December 2019 10: 33
        How can you not understand the obvious things. "Peresvet" is loaded into the An-124-100 from the concrete platform (runway). At an altitude of 11 km, a cargo hatch opens and missile systems are covered. As you can see, everything is simple.
      4. +4
        18 December 2019 10: 34
        They cover patrol areas and do not directly support them.
      5. -3
        18 December 2019 10: 36
        Quote: demo
        And how will that "Peresvet" defend that "Yars"?

        Judging by the latest military acceptance videos about Yarsy, concrete has been laid long in the areas of positioning for the routes of the complexes.
        Yars, having increased cross-country ability, can operate outside these concrete roads. But Peresvet, judging by the photo, will really have to be "thrown" on the road.
      6. 0
        18 December 2019 13: 28
        Quote: demo
        Either we are fools who cannot add 2 + 2, or something is wrong in the "conservatory".

        At the same time, this road train in the form of Peresvet does not frailly unmask the mobile complexes with the Yarses themselves.
        At the same time, I do not really understand what kind of cover we are talking about. Interception of the Kyrgyz Republic Tomahawk, as an option, looks stupid, given the low-speed thereof.
        But either the destruction or blinding of the enemy’s satellites, as well as goals such as AWACS, looks more believable ... but ... it’s not clear why drag Peresvet beyond YaRS.
        The whole turbidity of this story is that no one knows what Peresvet is capable of doing.
      7. 0
        18 December 2019 13: 50
        Most likely there is a version not shown on the same chassis as Yars. And they show the polygon version, most likely very early hi
      8. 0
        18 December 2019 14: 23
        And what prevents Peresvet from putting on the chassis of the same BAZ or MZKT? Most likely, in this embodiment, Peresvet is intended to protect the locations of the PGRK.
        1. +1
          18 December 2019 14: 48
          Moreover, nothing prevents the installation of "Peresvet" on board the Il-76MD-90A or Il-96T in order to blind the satellites in an extended range of heights and inclination of their orbits (since the transparency / density of air at an altitude of 12 km is an order of magnitude more / less than these indicators in the surface layer) regardless of cloudiness and atmospheric precipitation (which are observed at heights of less than 12 km).

          And to remove heat into the air from the laser heat exchanger at a speed of 850-950 km / h is several times easier than from a motionless installation.
          1. 0
            18 December 2019 15: 28
            Judging by the cart, it weighs 90 tons or more, so in the 76th and 96th it definitely won’t fit.
            1. +1
              18 December 2019 20: 09
              Judging by "Poseidon" - no more than 40 tons.
    6. +1
      18 December 2019 09: 53
      Break in, bring to mind according to the results of operation.
      And we will wait for the future destroyers of the brother Peresvet Oslyabyu (with optimism).
    7. +1
      18 December 2019 10: 08
      Honestly, I am skeptical about laser weapons (in any case, when used in terrestrial atmospheres). What is its effectiveness in dense clouds? Mist? Not to mention the production of all kinds of smoke, etc. curtains.
      1. 0
        18 December 2019 11: 31
        Quote: kupitman
        Honestly, I am skeptical about laser weapons (in any case, when used in terrestrial atmospheres).

        Do you really think that all the military have only one gyrus, and that of a cap? It doesn’t matter how you feel about it, it’s important that since they do it, it means it works!
    8. 0
      18 December 2019 10: 19
      Would you tell us what Peresvet does, what it protects from, for what purposes? Well, I don’t understand.
      1. +2
        18 December 2019 11: 29
        Quote: Zaurbek
        Would you tell us what Peresvet does, what it protects from, for what purposes? Well, I don’t understand.

        Do you need to lay out the technical documentation?
        1. 0
          18 December 2019 16: 20
          Americans do not make a secret about the appointment of lasers ....
    9. 0
      18 December 2019 10: 20
      I need one laser to the cottage ... just in case :)
      1. +1
        18 December 2019 11: 32
        Drive cockroaches? No? Mice request
    10. -3
      18 December 2019 10: 21
      The most powerful Russian laser. Bravo !!! Beam power 1,2 MW. And a Mobile Nuclear Plant - 20 MW. While the most powerful American laser - 150 kW, is installed on the ship. There is also a Russian laser installed (last year) on an icebreaker with a power of 200 kW .... But .. The mobility of the Russian Peresvet laser is not the same as that of the mobile Yars. How will he protect him on the go ...
      1. +3
        18 December 2019 10: 45
        The nuclear power plant "Peresvet" has a reactor of the same type as the nuclear power plant "Poseidon" and "Burevestnik" - 30 MW of thermal power and 10 MW of electric power. The efficiency of silicon carbide diodes of a semiconductor laser is 50%. The total power of the laser radiation is 5 MW.
        1. 0
          18 December 2019 11: 25
          Plus optics inevitable loss.
          So yes, about 1.2 MW.
          Let’s also say that there are quite a few.
          1. +8
            18 December 2019 11: 27
            If in optics not only 3,8 MW is lost but only 0,1 MW, then the optics will burn in a bright flame laughing

            The degree of light transmission of laser optics is 99,99%
        2. +1
          18 December 2019 15: 32
          Flight of fancy you Andrey ogogo.
          Do you want to post questions? The most obvious.
          Where is 30 MW of heat generated continuously from a car chassis removed?
          1. +3
            18 December 2019 20: 06
            25 MW - in air heating, of course.
            1. +1
              19 December 2019 11: 20
              25 MW - in air heating, of course.

              Thought laughing wassat lol
              Well, count even the entire surface of overexposure will be a radiator.
              1. +1
                19 December 2019 11: 47
                Turbofan attached to a water / air heat exchanger, no? laughing
        3. -2
          18 December 2019 20: 52
          Why is it so complicated? NPP ... No.
          Judging by the dimensions, a power plant based on a serial gas turbine unit is laid there, 16 MW at the terminals in nominal mode, 20 MW at maximum (limited in time). This is a serial equipment that is mainly consumed by oil and gas companies.
          1. +4
            18 December 2019 23: 10
            It is a good option.
          2. +1
            19 December 2019 11: 20
            and on the basis of serial gas turbines,

            Here is one of the best gas turbines General Electric LM2500 +
            Our business doesn’t. The weight of 100 tons is about 15 m long. It is without a generator without an air cooling system without a fuel reserve. Now look at the photo of overexposure where does it all fit in?
            1. -2
              19 December 2019 22: 32
              Quote: bk316
              Now look at the photo of overexposure where does it all fit in?

              The complex consists of 2 energy supply vehicles: - the energy module of the complex on a 5-axle low-frame;
              - a power module control machine and a substation on the KAMAZ chassis with 4 axle low loader. Link https://militaryrussia.livejournal.com/424210.html
              Such gas turbine power plants that can be used are produced for the oil and gas industry. Manufacturers are not alone. They are produced in block-modular design, as standard. They are mobile, but not mobile. In order to achieve mobility, designers need to work. It is possible to implement it, I was a GUI in a number of projects on block-modular gas turbine power plants and I know that. For civilian users, this is not in demand, because bad with service, ergonomics - it will be very crowded. But the military just right.
              I believe that GTUs based on NK-16, NK-38, PS-90PA were used, the latter most likely it gives at terminals up to 25 MW. So in the first gas turbine engine + generator, this is somewhere around 35 - 40 tons + KVOU (air) + exhaust + KShT (shelter). Total: 55 - 60 tons. Low-frame 5-axle, up to 65 tons will pull.
              Quite normal. Suitable for public roads. And for the ground you need something else, for example, an air cushion conveyor lol
    11. +3
      18 December 2019 10: 29
      I'm certainly not a teacher of Russian, but
      The latest Peresvet laser systems have covered Yars and Topolи-M
      it seems to be correct "Topolя-M " what
      1. -5
        18 December 2019 10: 40
        Topoli-M is an outdated weapon, and the author writes about the latest Topoli-M missile systems. Read the newspapers sometimes.
        1. +1
          18 December 2019 10: 45
          Well, the newest all the same "Yars". And the rules of the Russian language have not yet seemed to be canceled.
          1. +1
            18 December 2019 11: 26
            According to these rules, the name is not inclined at all. That is, "Topol-M" is correct and nothing else.
            1. 0
              18 December 2019 11: 30
              what "Poplars. Heat July" laughing wink hi
              1. 0
                18 December 2019 11: 44
                Poplars? Please, but the poplar tree is not.
                The Topol-M missile system is also gone.
                In quotation marks.
                1. 0
                  18 December 2019 11: 48
                  Well then, the title of the article (as I expected) is not correct hi
              2. 0
                18 December 2019 12: 36
                This song always surprised me.
                In Moscow, the poplar flowering season usually occurs at the end of May - beginning of June.
                In the south of Russia, therefore, even earlier.
                Where does poplar bloom in July?
                In Vorkuta?
                But he does not grow there.
                In short.
                Bullshit, not the lyrics.
                1. 0
                  18 December 2019 12: 39
                  I’m silent about the rules of the Russian language on our stage wassat Therefore, I try not to listen to her (I understand that they sing recourse )
                  1. 0
                    18 December 2019 12: 46
                    I can’t refuse to listen at all, but I have already refused to watch it. hi
      2. 0
        18 December 2019 11: 22
        Quote: Horst78
        "Topol-M"

        This charming street partly replaced the garden, as on both sides of it grew poplarswhich are fragrant, especially after rain, and because of fences and front gardens acacias, tall bushes of lilac, bird cherry, apple tree hung

        - A.P. Chekhov, "My Life".
        1. 0
          18 December 2019 11: 24
          All is correct. if Chekhov’s current is remembered, it must be remembered that the alphabet was a little different, as were the rules of the language.
          1. +2
            18 December 2019 11: 30
            Not at all. There is a separate topic with the replacement of the endings "and" with "I" (poplars - poplars, gamekeepers - gamekeepers), or "s" with "a" (contracts - contracts):

            We don't say storms but storms -
            Words come out short and savory:
            "Winds" - not "winds" - drive us crazy,
            Uprooting masts from decks.

            - V.S. Vysotsky

            I don’t, I confess, talk about the rules here.
            1. +3
              18 December 2019 13: 02
              yes how to say

              straight one to one with modern Russian
              hi
              1. 0
                18 December 2019 16: 49
                Cool. Where is this download? laughing hi
    12. -4
      18 December 2019 10: 36
      when already about him the film will be removed ?? fellow
      I want to see ...
      1. 0
        18 December 2019 13: 09
        disney look
        1. -3
          18 December 2019 16: 50
          I agree. disney is more truthful than any briefings ... good
          1. 0
            18 December 2019 20: 10
            ahaha-c'mon marsh disney vornar brazers and sisters in achkowski
            1. -1
              18 December 2019 22: 38
              Disney would have come up with an interesting fairy tale about overexposure
    13. +5
      18 December 2019 10: 38
      Peresvet is designed to disable optical reconnaissance satellites.

      The weather performance of "Peresvet" and satellites coincides (no cloudiness), "Peresvet" does not need to move during operation, in case of its impact on satellites the PGRKs become completely invisible to the enemy.
      1. -6
        18 December 2019 12: 53
        in the event of its strike on satellites, the PGRKs become completely invisible to the enemy.

        This satellite strike is an actual declaration of war.
        So, according to the logic of things, the next steps should be a massive blow to the adversary.
        Or.
        The adversary has already inflicted, and we respond.
        Other is not given.
        And from the fact that the adversary learned about our retaliatory strike, what to change?
        AND!!!!!
        I remembered the words of our Supreme!
        "They won't even have time to pray"
        It means so.

        The adversary struck.
        We turned on our chandelier.
        Blinded by their companions.
        They launched their rockets.
        And the men, on the other side of the puddle, instead of fleeing to church, wandered to the nearest bar to drink beer.
        And here - bam!
        That's all.
        They are in hell.
        And we are in Paradise.

        This is all nonsense.
    14. +2
      18 December 2019 10: 49
      Quote: ANIMAL
      Quote: Sergst
      "Peresvet lasers are among the newest Russian strategic weapons." - Can anyone explain about the "strategic"?

      The purpose of Relight is to counteract any air attack and, in addition, it even has the ability to shoot down satellites in orbit! Relight complements the capabilities of air defense systems. What is known from those grains of information that was from Relight.
      Accordingly, it makes changes in the strategic alignment of forces! hi

      You got very excited about it.

      Technical reasons (according to the source - PV Zarubin "Akademik Basov ...") consisted in the fact that at a micron wavelength of laser radiation it was practically impossible to focus the beam onto a relatively small area. Those. if the target is at a distance of more than 100 km, then the natural angular divergence of optical laser radiation in the atmosphere as a result of scattering is 0,0001 degrees. This was established in the Institute of Atmospheric Optics at the Siberian Branch of the USSR Academy of Sciences in Tomsk, specially created to ensure the implementation of the program for the creation of laser weapons, which was headed by Acad. V.E. Zuev. From this it followed that the laser radiation spot at a distance of 100 km would have a diameter of at least 20 meters, and the energy density over an area of ​​1 cm2 at a total laser source energy of 1 MJ would be less than 0,1 J / cm2. This is too little - in order to hit the rocket (create a hole in it of 1 cm2, depressurizing it), more than 1 kJ / cm2 is required

      At a small distance, where, in principle, it is possible to accurately focus on a small surface, the angular movement of the target relative to the weapon does not allow heating to a sufficient temperature due to the short time the laser spot is kept at one point. (Posted by me).

      Blind optical sights and observation devices. Perhaps extinguish small drones.
    15. -5
      18 December 2019 10: 56
      Quote: Sergst
      "Peresvet lasers are among the newest Russian strategic weapons." - Can anyone explain about the "strategic"?

      "Strategic" - in the sense of demonstrating equality and conformity to popularized similar attitudes of the penguins. The use of which in combat conditions to destroy something there in the air, on land and on water is completely useless. To prove to the enemy that we are not Pithecanthropus.
    16. -2
      18 December 2019 11: 05
      Quote: Victoria-In
      How can you not understand the obvious things. "Peresvet" is loaded into the An-124-100 from the concrete platform (runway). At an altitude of 11 km, a cargo hatch opens and missile systems are covered. As you can see, everything is simple.

      Write better continuation of the adventures of Kolobok. Type after Fox turned out to be modified, but alive .....
      1. +1
        18 December 2019 12: 52
        What are you unhappy with? My comment is as stupid as most others. In general, it reminds me: “I have not read Pasternak’s books (s), but I condemn Pasternak’s actions / political views.”
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    18. +2
      18 December 2019 11: 21
      Covering their ICBMs means destroying an enemy warhead attacking from space.
      But this warhead falls in a cloud of plasma. And it is packed in a special heat-resistant coating. So that the warhead does not burn out in dense layers of the atmosphere before hitting the target.
      Conclusion:
      A laser is useless under such conditions.
      Only a direct hit of a tungsten (or similar) metal disc can destroy an attack from above the warhead of ICBMs.
      The Americans, when they tested their anti-ICBM laser, had in mind the defeat of the first stage on take-off. But the plane did not break through there and the project was closed.
      1. +1
        18 December 2019 11: 30
        Naturally, the laser is not against the MBR, apparently meaning kr, drones, etc.
        1. +1
          18 December 2019 11: 37
          Then fine. It might work.
      2. +2
        18 December 2019 11: 48
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Only a direct hit of a tungsten (or similar) metal disc can destroy an attack from above the warhead of ICBMs.

        And if, purely theoretically, a birch trunk is launched at great speed, what is the physics of survival and retention on the trajectory of an ICBM warhead in this case? laughing
        A snowball (huge such)?
        1. 0
          18 December 2019 11: 51
          I described the operation of the THAAD missile defense system, which is adopted by the United States.
          And deployed in California and Japan.
          And your question, of course, will be answered by distinguished academicians of the Russian Academy of Sciences. hi
          1. +3
            18 December 2019 11: 56
            Quote: voyaka uh
            reputable academics of the RAS will answer

            There is no need to be an academician. The question is the combination of size, mass, speed, and thermophysical characteristics - physics is quite accessible to mere mortals.
            Just cut "just a hit of tungsten (or similar)."
            1. -2
              18 December 2019 12: 02
              This is how THAAD and GBMD work
              (Ground Base Midcourse Defense).
              A "kinetic killer" - a device with an engine, guidance system and a tungsten blank, hits the warhead with a direct hit.
              Only THAAD meets on the descent, and the system in Alaska is in the middle of the trajectory.
              1. +4
                18 December 2019 12: 06
                Quote: voyaka uh
                This is how THAAD and GBMD work

                It would be strange if they threw huge blocks of ice or birch trees. But this does not mean the absence of such a possibility in theory.
      3. +2
        18 December 2019 12: 02
        Covering their ICBMs means destroying an enemy warhead attacking from space.

        This is so for amers, in which ICBMs are mine, and the yars are mobile.
        Therefore, it is enough to send the yars to the deployment zones during the menacing period, and reconnaissance the satellites by overexposure.
        This will save the yars for a retaliatory strike.
        1. -2
          18 December 2019 12: 05
          Peresvet is unlikely to reach the reconnaissance satellite ... recourse
          Rather, after all, to intercept the Tomahawks and similar missiles.
          1. +1
            18 December 2019 12: 21
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Rather, after all, to intercept the Tomahawks and similar missiles.


            And will he reach Tomahawk? At what theoretical range can it hit a cruise missile at an altitude of 100-200m?
            1. -2
              18 December 2019 12: 33
              3-5 kilometers, I think. But if the laser is very powerful, it will take a second to burn, not more.
              Aiming also takes a second, "warming up" to the required power? Depends on the type of laser. If a beam is formed from many beams, then quickly.
              If one beam builds up - longer.
              1. 0
                18 December 2019 12: 36
                Then all the PGRK should be concentrated almost closely around the "Peresvetov". In my opinion, so-so idea.
              2. 0
                18 December 2019 14: 32
                We do not know - maybe Peresvet is a pulsed laser with a peak power of one or more TW.
          2. +2
            18 December 2019 12: 45
            Rather, after all, to intercept the Tomahawks and similar missiles.

            Nobody will use Tomahawks by yars: deployment areas are deep behind, missiles will have time to launch 10 times and hit targets in the USA 5 times.
            1. -1
              18 December 2019 12: 56
              This is also true.
              We discussed: why deploy Peresvet lasers near the Yars ICBM launchers?
              Different opinions were considered. drinks
    19. +2
      18 December 2019 11: 28
      There are hundreds of mobile yars, poplars, even more, have you done so many overexposures? very doubtful
    20. 0
      18 December 2019 11: 57
      Quote: V.I.F.
      Not at all. There is a separate topic with the replacement of the endings "and" with "I" (poplars - poplars, gamekeepers - gamekeepers), or "s" with "a" (contracts - contracts):

      We don't say storms but storms -
      Words come out short and savory:
      "Winds" - not "winds" - drive us crazy,
      Uprooting masts from decks.

      - V.S. Vysotsky

      I don’t, I confess, talk about the rules here.

      As far as I can remember, the rules of declension (I graduated in 1995 and gave me a 3-in Russian wassat )
    21. 0
      18 December 2019 12: 00
      Quote: demo
      When you look at this complex, you understand that it will not go anywhere beyond the concrete site.


      Already in the USSR there were trailers with wheel drive, here the same thing can be
    22. 0
      18 December 2019 12: 08
      As for the combat use of lasers, something is very doubtful. Cover nuclear complexes from what? from drones?
    23. -2
      18 December 2019 12: 19
      Quote: Spade
      Quote: Good_Anonymous
      I wonder what kind of "air attacks" are expected in the Yars deployment areas.

      Cruise missile attacks. Americans don’t really hide it ...

      And which bird will fly to the middle of the Dnieper?
      1. +1
        18 December 2019 13: 15
        and from the middle?
        Interestingly, Arly Burke is able to climb the Dnieper closer to Kiev, for example? smile
    24. -2
      18 December 2019 12: 21
      Quote: Spade
      Quote: Good_Anonymous
      I wonder what kind of "air attacks" are expected in the Yars deployment areas.

      Cruise missile attacks. Americans don’t really hide it ...

      Well, if with refueling along the way, then perhaps .....
    25. 0
      18 December 2019 12: 46
      interestingly, if the Americans scratched it, it’s not very, if they themselves made it perfectly (laser weapon)
    26. +1
      18 December 2019 12: 48
      He repeatedly wrote that until a compact nuclear reactor is made, laser guns will be just expensive toys. It looks like "bye" came, as always unexpected ... belay
    27. +1
      18 December 2019 12: 57
      Quote: Operator
      The efficiency of silicon carbide diodes of a semiconductor laser is 50%. Total laser radiation power is 5 MW.

      Interestingly, if the efficiency of LEDs is only 50%, then the rest of the power must be dissipated by the LED itself onto the substrate. What kind of substrate is this and what area is it capable of removing such "power"? 5 MW is 5000 kW. One iron 2 kW. A total of 2500 irons must be disposed of. This is what a "cooler" you need to have ....
      1. +4
        18 December 2019 13: 25
        The power of one silicon carbide laser diode is 25 kW, the diode assembly area is> 100 sq. Cm. Heat removal is possible when the assembly is cooled by evaporation of liquid nitrogen (with its subsequent liquefaction in a compressor with heat transfer to the air through a heat exchanger with a fan).
    28. +1
      18 December 2019 12: 57
      Quote: ANIMAL
      The purpose of Relight is to counteract any air attack and, in addition, it even has the ability to bring down satellites in orbit

      Excuse me, at what height do you need to throw it for this?
    29. 0
      18 December 2019 13: 04
      Quote: demo
      This satellite strike is an actual declaration of war

      Laser strike on NATO, Japanese, South Korean, etc. optical reconnaissance satellites applied after the use by our opponents of high-precision conventional weapons at the first stage of the war - as spelled out in the US military doctrine, of course.

      Since conventional weapons have an extremely small (compared to thermonuclear) radius of destruction, it is not suitable for the destruction of PGRK that are in motion or at a launching position under the cover of a smoke screen. This applies to ballistic missiles with a flight time of 6 minutes or more. Cruise missiles and tactical aircraft with a flight time of at least an hour are generally not suitable for a counter-force strike in connection with their arrival at the target only after a heading analysis - the launch of Russian missiles and the takeoff of aircraft in full force.

      PS Nothing prevents the enemy’s satellites from being blinded, and before the launch of his missiles (in a special period), the laser is not a nuclear weapon, so we did not take responsibility not to use laser weapons first bully
    30. +3
      18 December 2019 14: 01
      Relights do not have to wander after the Yars. It is enough to be in approximately the same sector of observation from the satellite as Yars to illuminate the light-sensitive elements of the satellite. And satellites are not like stars in the sky ...
    31. +3
      18 December 2019 14: 55
      Quote: Spade
      Question: how transparent will the burnt spectral filter be?

      After 1-2 seconds of irradiation with a laser with a constant light flux density of 25 kW / cmXNUMX, filters and optics will cease to exist.
    32. 0
      18 December 2019 15: 26
      Time put on a DB means not just so, there is a benefit ..
      Against what?
      1. Axes? very unlikely .. positional areas are mainly in the forest .. the height of the trees is somewhere around 10 m, the height of the ax is 15-60 m-i.e. the angle of attack is small (the trees will close the horizon) .. and most importantly - who will find flying axes and give target designation to Relight? Yes, and why? while they fly and the complexes disperse and the rockets fly apart ..
      2.Satellites? well ... let ours still learn how to shoot down .. why is it needed? only in the case of a database, and without nuclear weapons .. because - if we are the first to hit, it doesn’t matter much, the satellite will fly or not .. if the second are also the same ..
      3. It seems that the most probable is the destruction of drones, because - this is a serious danger .. but .. if it goes above the tops a couple of meters, how can I find it?

      What could be of this? I’m sure that most likely the system will blind the passing satellites without shooting down ... it’s kind of not an attack, but it’s effective and very useful precisely for PGRK, with which, as stated, there will be interaction .. well, if they can shoot down (if necessary) -very good ..
    33. -1
      18 December 2019 15: 51
      Quote: kiborg
      Noticed an error
      Select the text and press Ctrl + Enter

      And what to press on a smartphone?
    34. -3
      18 December 2019 18: 40
      Quote: Vadim237
      This problem was solved in the 80s.

      You will either be silent very loudly, or cite facts in the form of numbers, articles, and other materials.
      A million years ago, the laws of physics worked exactly the same as they do today. And they do not depend on the presence of an intelligent person or a fool nearby.
      1. -1
        18 December 2019 23: 59
        There are no numbers, but on Foros they used a laser system that had a dual laser, the main one and a protective one against sea fumes, which increased the efficiency of the laser system by several percent.
        According to the Terra 3 program "Technical reasons were that at a micron wavelength of laser radiation it was practically impossible to focus the beam on a relatively small area. That is, if the target is at a distance of more than 100 km, then the natural angular divergence of optical laser radiation in the atmosphere as a result of scattering is 0,0001 degrees. This was established in the Institute of Atmospheric Optics at the Siberian Branch of the USSR Academy of Sciences in Tomsk, which was headed by Academician VE Zuev, specially created to ensure the implementation of the program for the creation of laser weapons. laser radiation at a distance of 100 km will have a diameter of at least 20 meters, and the energy density on an area of ​​1 sq. cm with a total energy of a laser source of 1 MJ will be less than 0,1 J / sq. cm. This is too small for to hit a rocket (to create a hole of 1 sq. cm in it, having depressurized it), it takes more than 1 kJ / sq. cm. And if it was originally supposed to be used on the VFD complex, lasers, then after identifying the problem of focusing the beam, the developers began to lean towards the use of two-stage lasers "combiners" on Raman scattering.
    35. -2
      18 December 2019 18: 45
      Quote: Avior
      and from the middle?
      Interestingly, Arly Burke is able to climb the Dnieper closer to Kiev, for example? smile

      Only the Ukrainian Cossack, armed with a bunch of bull bubbles, is capable of this. Having brought a pontoon from these bubbles under this piece of iron, and having done absolutely to anyone, and to himself, a titanic work.
    36. -2
      18 December 2019 18: 50
      Peresvet lasers are among the newest Russian strategic weapons. The characteristics of the complex are not disclosed

      How can some "tovaischi" not ask around on VO, and all this is covered with the darkness of secrecy .. And if they were taken out on the cover, then this is already interesting .. hi
      Hurray I won't shout .. I hope the Vanguards on duty will also be covered in the echeloned complex .. soldier
    37. -1
      18 December 2019 19: 22
      I think this is a complex for blinding reconnaissance satellites and other similar systems
    38. 0
      18 December 2019 22: 03
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Americans do not make a secret about the appointment of lasers ....

      But what to hide if their lasers are capable of eliminating only air balloons.
    39. -2
      19 December 2019 00: 25
      Quote: Horst78
      Cool. Where is this download? laughing hi

      https://royallib.com/book/dal_vladimir/tolkoviy_slovar_givogo_velikorusskogo_yazika.html
    40. +1
      19 December 2019 02: 56
      The most likely destination of Peresvet is blinding the space echelon of the American SPRN - satellites of the SBIRS and STSS series. All in all a good thing ...
      1. 0
        19 December 2019 13: 52
        SPRN satellites - located on the GPO and GSO - Relight will not reach them, since the orbits are from 2000 to 40000 kilometers. It needs lasers with a nominal power of 1 GW.
        1. +1
          19 December 2019 14: 02
          The Tundra and SBIRS-GEO / HEO satellites are located in geostationary and highly elliptical orbits and are designed to record ballistic missile launches in response to the flame of rocket engines with a resolution of more than 10 meters of optical sensors.

          The satellites for determining the coordinates of the PGRK are located in low orbits (200-300 km) and belong to general-purpose reconnaissance satellites of the Bars-M and STSS type with a resolution of optical sensors less than 1 meter.
    41. 0
      19 December 2019 09: 27
      It seems to me that either the author is raving, or someone else, I will not point with a finger.
    42. 0
      19 December 2019 23: 43
      Quote: Vadim237
      There are no numbers, but on Foros they used a laser system that had a dual laser, the main one and a protective one against sea fumes, which increased the efficiency of the laser system by several percent.
      According to the Terra 3 program "Technical reasons were that at a micron wavelength of laser radiation it was practically impossible to focus the beam on a relatively small area. That is, if the target is at a distance of more than 100 km, then the natural angular divergence of optical laser radiation in the atmosphere as a result of scattering is 0,0001 degrees. This was established in the Institute of Atmospheric Optics at the Siberian Branch of the USSR Academy of Sciences in Tomsk, which was headed by Academician VE Zuev, specially created to ensure the implementation of the program for the creation of laser weapons. laser radiation at a distance of 100 km will have a diameter of at least 20 meters, and the energy density on an area of ​​1 sq. cm with a total energy of a laser source of 1 MJ will be less than 0,1 J / sq. cm. This is too small for to hit a rocket (to create a hole of 1 sq. cm in it, having depressurized it), it takes more than 1 kJ / sq. cm. And if it was originally supposed to be used on the VFD complex, lasers, then after identifying the problem of focusing the beam, the developers began to lean towards the use of two-stage lasers "combiners" on Raman scattering.

      So that one laser beam helps to focus the beam of another laser. Interesting.
      However, you do not correctly understand the physics of the process. Since light has a wave basis, many light sources do not sum light. You can add only a sine with the same wavelength, the same phase. Remember school geometry? The teacher takes a pair of compasses and adds two heights of two sinusoids. It turns out the sum of the heights.
      But a ray of light, no matter how coherent it is (of the same length), does not coincide in phase. And therefore they cannot be folded.
      Example: Two pieces of iron, heated to 600 degrees, stacked together do not heat anything to 1200 degrees. Exactly for the same reason. The energy of light, going almost parallel, do not see each other. They do not affect a neighbor in any way. And, therefore, they can’t focus each other in any way.
      A "double laser" is a laser pumped laser. Converting power and wavelength.
      The divergence of the beam does not occur at the aperture, but during the course, due to the properties of the atmosphere. The higher the power, the more active is the evaporation of microdroplets of water and the water fog does its job.

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