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Foreign partners missed the second phase of the test application of the Su-57 in Syria

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The departmental publication of the Ministry of Defense "Red Star" published the text of the speech of the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Valery Gerasimov to foreign military attaches. The general, among other things, reported on the ongoing testing of fifth-generation fighters Su-57.


According to the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, a repeated test use of Su-57 combat aircraft in Syria was carried out.

Gerasimov:

In the course of their repeated testing in Syria, all the planned tasks were successfully completed.

Recall that the first stage of the “Syrian” tests of Su-57 fighters became known at the beginning of last year. Initially, it was reported that two fifth-generation aircraft of Russian production were tested, then the legislative body of the Russian Federation noted that four Su-57s were used for testing in combat conditions.

It is noteworthy that the foreign partners actually missed the second stage of the tests of the new generation Russian combat aircraft in Syria. Usually in such cases, satellite images from the Khmeimim airbase appear in a number of foreign media, where, among other means, aviation see and Su-57. Silence this time.

In this case, it must be recalled that at Khmeimim, Russian military personnel built special fortified hangars in which various military aircraft can be located. For obvious reasons, this reduces the likelihood of "catching" cameras of foreign satellites of certain planes that arrive at the air base in Latakia and depart from its territory.

Valery Gerasimov did not report on the arrival route of the Su-57 to the SAR.
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  1. Vladimir16
    Vladimir16 18 December 2019 06: 37
    +38
    So invisible! wink
    1. Edik
      Edik 18 December 2019 06: 42
      +27
      Quote: Vladimir16
      So invisible!

      They just filled my eyes with oil winkSatellites were looking in the wrong square yes
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 18 December 2019 07: 21
        +4
        It’s more effective to fill your eyes with alcohol. This certainly covers them so much that the movements of the aircraft are perceived as unrealistic. lol
        1. The comment was deleted.
        2. Ros 56
          Ros 56 18 December 2019 12: 57
          +28
          No need to talk nonsense, so I took it to my chest and did the granddaughter an article in the kindergarten. I bought a Christmas tree and toys.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 18 December 2019 14: 27
            +14
            Quote: Ros 56
            No need to talk nonsense, so I took it to my chest and did the granddaughter an article in the kindergarten. I bought a Christmas tree and toys.

            Beauty!
    2. Voyager
      Voyager 18 December 2019 08: 34
      +2
      Russian disguise.
      1. Lone gunman
        Lone gunman 18 December 2019 11: 07
        +3
        Yeah))), the satellites turned red from such impudence of the Su-57, turned away and did not transmit data ... it's simple, those who should know about the presence of Russian aircraft in Syria, the members of the forum "please" me more and more. EGEShniki grew up, his mother by the leg ...)))
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 18 December 2019 11: 33
        -1
        "Russian maskirovka" ////
        -----

        Noticed. But they did not attach much importance.
        defenseworld.net
        Two Su-57s Flown To Hmeymim, Syria, As Russia Upgrades Infrastructure At Air Base

        September 2019 years
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 18 December 2019 12: 38
          +6
          A little strange note, you say you didn’t want to notice, and they allegedly referring to the Red Star, which I did not find, say that -57 is the first time in Syria, which is obviously a misconception.
          This is the “first demonstration of the latest Russian combat aircraft under real war conditions," reports Krasnaya Zvezda.
          But the assumption that they are preparing to settle there permanently, even if so ?, smacks of another horror story russians are coming
          Intensive operations to improve the infrastructure of the Russian air base in Khemeimim, Syria, could indicate that the Su-57s will soon be stationed there permanently, the Krasnaya Zvezda report said.
    3. Invoce
      Invoce 18 December 2019 09: 10
      +5
      Not noticeably flew to Syria, without landings. Fulfilled the tasks and arrived at the airfield! Not seen by anyone! It’s time for Amers and hangers-on to think about whether they are investing there (F-35), and to India, Turkey and others like them - scratching their noses and drawing conclusions what good
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 18 December 2019 09: 17
        -4
        how to track night flights from a satellite? request
        1. TiRex
          TiRex 18 December 2019 12: 06
          +7
          there are not only optical satellites, if this is news for you ...
          1. Podvodnik
            Podvodnik 18 December 2019 13: 27
            +3
            Tracking a moving target from a satellite is not easy. First of all, the satellite must be "pointed" to a specific location. An intelligence satellite reading the newspaper Pravda from space is a myth. In addition to inspecting Khmeimim, there are other tasks. Photo reconnaissance, perhaps, flies low and fast, does not hang motionless over the "favorite" object. There is a known time of flight. Countermeasures are being taken. No photo uploaded? And not necessarily. There may be a photo "for a narrow circle of people". Intelligence satellite capabilities are classified. They have different filling and orbital parameters depending on the purpose. No one ever publishes all photos. Those who need it know everything and analyze it.
      2. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 18 December 2019 10: 00
        +2
        Not seen by anyone!


        First of all, it’s not surprising that invisible for satellites to deploy troops it’s enough to do it at night and disguise during the day, it was easy to do this with airplanes because of the canopies built at the base in Syria and the low ESR of the Su-57 has nothing to do with it and secondly, if the United States or Israel do not shout about it in the media, this does not mean at all that the special services and military of these countries are not aware that the Su-57 is in Syria.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 18 December 2019 10: 41
          +7
          it became easy to do with airplanes because of the built canopies at the base in Syria

          Comrades military, do not store modern aircraft in the open, do not please enemy spies.
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 18 December 2019 12: 56
            0
            It seems that ours know the timetable of satellites with IR sensors ... laughing
            1. Ratmir_Ryazan
              Ratmir_Ryazan 18 December 2019 19: 56
              +2
              And the infrared channel from the satellite will help determine the type of aircraft, distinguish Su-57 from Su-30/34/35?
              1. hydrox
                hydrox 18 December 2019 20: 41
                0
                This is an extra complication: a similar problem was solved 25 years ago, but the delta spectra were considered in different ranges of infrared radiation - it turned out to be difficult: it was normal in flight, but not informative when the aircraft was stationary
        2. Bratkov Oleg
          Bratkov Oleg 18 December 2019 18: 29
          +2
          Also, it is not known whether they know about the presence of the planes. With the same success they clapped, and now we have to make a very smart face and say that: "We do not disclose the technical capabilities of our intelligence satellites", because another version of the statement: "We did not notice anything."
  2. eagle owl
    eagle owl 18 December 2019 06: 39
    +19
    After their Patriots missed the attack of the ancient Pepelians - it’s never strange
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 December 2019 06: 45
    +33
    foreign partners actually missed the second stage of tests of new generation Russian combat aircraft in Syria
    This indicates the excellent measures taken by the RF Armed Forces to counter the enemy’s technical intelligence. What I wish in the future.
    1. tractor driver
      tractor driver 18 December 2019 07: 22
      +11
      Foreign partners will say that they have not seen, which means there were no tests yes
      1. venik
        venik 18 December 2019 08: 33
        +6
        Quote: tractor driver
        Foreign partners will say that they have not seen, which means there were no tests yes

        =======
        What do they risk getting an answer like: "Do you see the gopher? ....." laughing tongue
      2. Chaldon48
        Chaldon48 18 December 2019 08: 45
        0
        But what matters to us, they don’t want to see, and they don’t see. The ostrich does just that.
    2. Siberian 66
      Siberian 66 18 December 2019 08: 00
      +7
      Ours are excellent at hiding operational-tactical and even strategic operations. Suffice it to recall "Anadyr". But also do not underestimate the enemy. The press didn’t screech, it doesn’t mean that the report didn’t lie on the table ... Here the informational wars, ours against NATO, are in full swing ..
      1. Cananecat
        Cananecat 18 December 2019 08: 32
        0
        There are many versions you can build, from the usual "overslept" to redirected to other tasks ... and the latter is more alarming.
      2. venik
        venik 18 December 2019 08: 38
        +11
        Quote: Sibiryak 66
        The press didn’t scream, it doesn’t mean the report didn’t lie on the table ... Here the information war, ours against NATO, is in full swing ..

        =======
        good Once upon a time, back in Soviet times, I asked the VK teacher: "Well, the data on our technique is secret - it's clear! But the data on THEIR technique is" secret " why""
        To which he received a lany answer: "So that" they "DO NOT KNOW that we - KNOW!" drinks
    3. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 18 December 2019 10: 54
      +4
      If you will allow me, then first of all I want to applaud the excellent work of planning, the staff officers did their work modestly, 100%: to calculate everything, to foresee everything, to coordinate everything - excellent work
      Quote: rotmistr60
      This indicates the excellent measures taken by the RF Armed Forces to counter the enemy’s technical intelligence. What I wish in the future.

      keep it up
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 18 December 2019 13: 03
        0
        The flight departments on both sides worked great! laughing
  4. Flooding
    Flooding 18 December 2019 07: 16
    +8
    A very serious event.
    Added a lot of gray hair to responsible officers.
    1. Cryvedco
      Cryvedco 18 December 2019 07: 30
      +7
      And perhaps awards with prizes. It’s like their job.
      1. nikon7717
        nikon7717 19 December 2019 07: 39
        +1
        Once such a rank has already been announced, it seems that they have already submitted documents for the successful completion of tasks and ...
        Well done military! Well done.
        It's nice that here info went ahead of the curve and in the comments the trolls hid so far, neither to see nor to hear smile smile
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 18 December 2019 07: 27
    +6
    "Big Brother" certainly doesn't sleep! But about the "all-seeing eye" is of course the tales of their forest.
    1. cniza
      cniza 18 December 2019 09: 02
      +1
      It was cloudy and satellites overslept. lol Greetings! hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 18 December 2019 09: 37
        +3
        Quote: cniza
        It was cloudy and satellites overslept. lol Greetings! hi

        Hi soldier
        Normal, correctly performed operation!
        Everything was calculated and checked in advance, we found a "window" when the "big brother" was not looking there.
        Five plus, for a job well done.
        1. cniza
          cniza 18 December 2019 09: 43
          +3
          As they say - keep it up ...
    2. your1970
      your1970 18 December 2019 11: 53
      +3
      Yeah, that's why in the SA the duty officer had a journal with the time of flight of their satellites (including at night) to take the necessary camouflage measures ....
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 18 December 2019 12: 08
        0
        Quote: your1970
        therefore, in the SA the duty officer had a magazine with the passage of their satellites

        So now there is such information, as they have. Of course, there are more satellites, the allies, if they don’t refuse such a service, secret information, which is also understandable ... but it turned out, we will assume that our "cat" does not eat sour cream for nothing, he also catches mice!
  6. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 18 December 2019 07: 51
    +4
    ... Did not notice?
    The stealth technology works!))
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 18 December 2019 13: 06
      +2
      The plane is considered in plan - what is your stealth ???
      Yes, and equipment with excellent optics!
  7. Roman 57 rus
    Roman 57 rus 18 December 2019 08: 00
    +9
    Is the recent infa about attacks by unknown aircraft on pro-Turkish and pro-American forces somehow interesting ??
    1. venik
      venik 18 December 2019 08: 46
      +5
      Quote: Roman 57 rus
      Is the recent infa about attacks by unknown aircraft on pro-Turkish and pro-American forces somehow interesting ??

      ========
      Duc, and WHO will tell you? If "NO" - they will keep silent! Well, if "YES" - then keep silent all the moree !!!!
      This information is "under the heading" - "Know only to those who need it "in service / work" wink ...
  8. askort154
    askort154 18 December 2019 08: 04
    +14
    Valery Gerasimov did not report on the arrival route of the Su-57 to the SAR.

    I did not announce that they made a couple of circles over Israel - they looked at the "iron domes" and counted the F-35. yes
    1. brr1
      brr1 18 December 2019 11: 05
      0
      Stop insulting bedsiders
  9. Svetlana
    Svetlana 18 December 2019 08: 19
    +4
    Silence on the air can mean several things, such as:
    - Really viewed
    - The media considered this episode unworthy of comment.
    - Those who should be aware of this, but did not merge (forget) it in the media
    - There were no planes there, but Gerasimov "leaked" misinformation.
    - come up with something else :)
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    2. your1970
      your1970 18 December 2019 11: 56
      0
      Quote: Svetlana
      Silence on the air can mean several things, such as:
      - Really viewed
      - The media considered this episode unworthy of comment.
      - Those who should be aware of this, but did not merge (forget) it in the media
      - There were no planes there, but Gerasimov "leaked" misinformation.
      - come up with something else :)
      saw ....
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Noticed. But they did not attach much importance.
      defenseworld.net
      Two Su-57s Flown To Hmeymim, Syria, As Russia Upgrades Infrastructure At Air Base

      September 2019 year
  10. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 18 December 2019 08: 32
    +3
    But this is beautiful!
    They can, if they want!
  11. K-50
    K-50 18 December 2019 09: 13
    +2
    Here are the quiet people! good
    Well done !!! hid well !!! fellow good
  12. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 18 December 2019 09: 44
    +1
    For a long time it was necessary to install such hangars throughout the country and not only for aircraft, but also for land equipment and for submarines.

    Otherwise, our "partners" already know by the piece what we have, in what quantities and where exactly.
  13. opus
    opus 18 December 2019 10: 26
    -9
    Quote: text of the speech of the Chief of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces Valery Gerasimov to foreign military attaches
    Foreign partners missed the second phase of the test application of the Su-57 in Syria

    belay
    uh
    I am afraid to assume. In Syria were delivered by trawls, in IL-76, or by sea in the troughs of the "Syrian express"?

    The transmitter-responders installed on board the aircraft are used for identification by an air traffic controller. were disconnected?
    mode A + C (RBS) / mode S.
    Broadcast: board number, call sign, transponder serial number, aircraft altitude, speed and GPS coordinates.
  14. Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 18 December 2019 11: 11
    -4
    Such articles remind about "ukroperemogah" for any reason. Comrades journalists, have some pride already.
  15. Gust
    Gust 18 December 2019 11: 38
    -3
    The reason is so-so. If you wanted to hide, you would hide. The satellite does not cover the entire territory 100% of the time. You can redirect adjacent ones, you can change orbit elements within certain limits. But still there are windows. For a long time, all movements of secret equipment were carried out only during windows. By the way, satellites are not only species reconnaissance, but also IR, and even radio bands. The last thing is cloudy and night do not care, but the resolution is worse and again there are windows. If desired, you can go unnoticed in the optical range and avoid identification.
    Turkish and Israeli radars all saw in the long waves, but they are not able to distinguish it from, say, the MiG-21. So, technically, everything is real. And as there actually was a question ..
  16. Mestny
    Mestny 18 December 2019 11: 57
    0
    Quote: tractor driver
    Foreign partners will say that they have not seen, which means there were no tests

    No.
    Foreign partners will declare that they knew everything perfectly, but they are not interested and not afraid to look at the fuss of some savages there.
    Actually, above one representative of the "partners" is already splashing saliva just about this.
  17. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 18 December 2019 12: 39
    0
    I wonder what route they flew.
    1. 1Alexey
      1Alexey 18 December 2019 14: 57
      0
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      I wonder what route they flew.

      I think that in the same way that our other planes fly to Syria. Otherwise, it could have aroused suspicion.
  18. Shahno
    Shahno 18 December 2019 18: 32
    0
    Quote: Bratkov Oleg
    Also, it is not known whether they know about the presence of the planes. With the same success they clapped, and now we have to make a very smart face and say that: "We do not disclose the technical capabilities of our intelligence satellites", because another version of the statement: "We did not notice anything."

    There were definitely photodocs from our companions. It's just that it's not our business. And not our job, in terms of "before and after".
    PS. I think everyone here understands this area under special control from our group. There are some other aspects related to the interaction with NATO partners.
    This region is virtually completely under control. Not stated, then no.
  19. Oleg133
    Oleg133 18 December 2019 19: 46
    +1
    Quote: hydrox
    It seems that ours know the timetable of satellites with IR sensors ... laughing

    When I was still in the 89th, we had a satellite flight schedule
  20. Starper-xnumx
    Starper-xnumx 18 December 2019 19: 51
    -4
    In the course of their repeated testing in Syria, all the planned tasks were successfully completed.

    Now, if they flew over Jerusalem on a shaver .. he he Oh dreams, dreams, but ..
  21. Ax Matt
    Ax Matt 18 December 2019 20: 44
    0
    What was required to prove - FULL stealth! wassat
  22. Gnefredov
    Gnefredov 19 December 2019 03: 10
    0
    There are many interesting things. You know, sometimes it’s not bad to be an old grunt :))) Hmm, I did not expect that I would survive;))))
  23. Piramidon
    Piramidon 19 December 2019 17: 48
    0
    Foreign partners missed the second phase of the test application of the Su-57 in Syria

    I don’t understand why PARTNERS are not in quotes, or are they really still "partners" for us (our management)? With such "partners" and enemies are not needed.
  24. pogis
    pogis 14 February 2020 14: 40
    0
    Quote: Oleg133
    Quote: hydrox
    It seems that ours know the timetable of satellites with IR sensors ... laughing

    When I was still in the 89th, we had a satellite flight schedule

    This is not a bus, updated nightly.