Chief of General Staff of the RF Armed Forces announces NATO preparations for a large-scale conflict

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The Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Valery Gerasimov spoke to the military attache of foreign states. During his speech, the general touched upon the issue of the militarization of the North Atlantic Alliance and the status of Russia fixed in his doctrine as one of the main opponents.

Valery Gerasimov recalled that following the December summit of NATO, it was decided to next "strengthen" the eastern flank of the North Atlantic military bloc - with the transfer of forces and assets to the Baltic countries and Poland.



Valery Gerasimov noted that over the next three years in NATO, military spending increased by $ 130 billion. During the same December summit, alliance members agreed to increase funding by another $ 2024 billion by 400. These are almost 10 military budgets of the Russian Federation.

According to the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, all this testifies to the systematic preparation of NATO for an armed conflict with attempts to first achieve dominance on land, at sea, in space and cyberspace.

Gerasimov emphasized that NATO is building up its military potential near the borders of Russia, is engaged in the militarization of the Baltic and Black Seas against the background of the constant advancement of the thesis about the “Russian threat”.

According to Valery Gerasimov, at the same time, any step by Russia to ensure its own security in the alliance is perceived as a "threat to peace", and the thesis about the alleged threat is actively picked up and disseminated by Western propagandists.

At the same time, Gerasimov noted the need for contacts with NATO in order to avoid the escalation of tension and reduce the likelihood of risk of armed incidents. It should be noted that now the contacts along the Moscow-Brussels line (NATO headquarters) are largely curtailed primarily due to the position of the functionaries of the Western military bloc.
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  1. +1
    18 December 2019 06: 06
    The nearest conflict will be between Turkey and Greece in Cyprus. Both NATO countries.
    "NATO's brain died" (c).
    1. +21
      18 December 2019 06: 17
      NATO will look for options for an external conflict, not an internal one. Most likely, they will set fire to Ukraine and Georgia to the point of "hot" against Russia, perhaps they will experiment a little in the Baltic states.
      1. +5
        18 December 2019 06: 30
        It is a pity that the probable countermeasures to the "probable aggressor", preferably nuclear ones, have not been announced.
        1. +12
          18 December 2019 06: 35
          So you need a preemptive strike.
          In Washington. wink
          1. +3
            18 December 2019 06: 38
            I’m not sorry for them, of course, but harshly. In connection with the withdrawal from the INF Treaty, you can threaten to strike at bases on the territory of NATO members! To start!
            1. +2
              18 December 2019 09: 41
              In connection with the withdrawal from the INF Treaty, you can threaten to strike at bases on the territory of NATO members! To start!

              So, for this, the NATO missile defense system is being deployed at the very borders of Russia.
              1. 0
                18 December 2019 09: 49
                I always believed that it was a missile defense system for intercepting our ICBMs in the initial and middle sections of the trajectory. I could be wrong.
                1. +2
                  18 December 2019 09: 57
                  As far as I know, all mines begin in the Urals: missile defense will not be available. But the mobile ....
                  1. +2
                    18 December 2019 10: 24
                    NATO will look for options for an external conflict, not an internal one. Most likely, they will set fire to Ukraine and Georgia to the point of "hot" against Russia, perhaps they will experiment a little in the Baltic states.

                    But what will it give to NATO itself? In the case of military aggression against Russia, at least from dill, even from rodents, even from both at once, even three-shots will be added to them, the result will be Russia. A full-fledged conflict for the sake of all these affected sub-states will not be allowed by NATO’s major shareholders. So why ask is it necessary?
          2. +3
            18 December 2019 07: 37
            Quote: Vladimir16
            So you need a preemptive strike.
            In Washington.

            Good ol '(Obama era) Washington City Medal video:

            1. 0
              18 December 2019 22: 27
              like, the answer to a real medal for victory in the Cold War ... well done)))
          3. +1
            18 December 2019 09: 24
            Quote: Vladimir16
            So you need a preemptive strike.
            In Washington. wink

            And immediately the hangers-on will lose their "interest" in the Russian threat, sanctions, they will stop yelling about human rights violations, including the pelengas from the ranks of the liberals and about the lack of democracy good
        2. +10
          18 December 2019 06: 49
          they have been voiced for a long time in the military doctrine of the country) there is no new yes and no)
          1. +9
            18 December 2019 06: 58
            But we must remind you, and in the media! So that local governments and residents do not imagine that NATO bases are just money.
            1. +2
              18 December 2019 07: 00
              so remind) only there after that the tantrums begin. large exercises held-ahhh save the guard. maneuvers-aaaa will capture us tomorrow) and so on)
            2. +2
              18 December 2019 07: 23
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              But we must remind, and in the media!

              And the local media will tell you this? They tell a different story.
              And the fact that you are going to tell them simply will not be conveyed to them
          2. -5
            18 December 2019 07: 21
            Quote: carstorm 11
            there is no new yes and no need)

            You need to chew, put in your mouth and show a card with arrows.
            And also places to show where the strike will strike
            1. +7
              18 December 2019 09: 14
              Quote: Lipchanin
              You need to chew, put in your mouth and show a card with arrows.
              And also places to show where the strike will strike

              It will be much more effective to post photos of dear cities located near NATO bases. With green parks, fountains, balloons and walking dogs. And a side by side version of the same place after a nuclear strike. With smoking ruins, the remains of burnt stumps and charred carcasses of dogs. With the inscription - "This can happen to anyone who sheltered US troops."
              1. +6
                18 December 2019 09: 22
                Quote: Gritsa
                It will be much more efficient to post photographs of dear cities located near NATO bases.

                Who will lay them out and WHERE?
                Do we have media controlled there?
                Do you seriously think that someone saw this press conference there?
                Remove the blinkers. Nobody sees us and hears us
                "Russia is an enemy and aggressor!"
                Everything, another opinion there is 90% absent. Not brought
                1. +4
                  18 December 2019 09: 29
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Who will lay them out and WHERE?
                  Do we have media controlled there?

                  Yes, at least we ourselves. First, at home, then on the Internet portals of all siblings and former ... And so on.
                  Here, for example, you always manage to find funny pictures. Why not start. There are enough people who want to pick up the initiative.
                  1. -1
                    18 December 2019 09: 43
                    Quote: Gritsa
                    Yes, at least we ourselves. First, at home, then on the Internet portals of all siblings and former ... And so on.

                    Try it.
                    But where? Does the whole Internet understand Russian? Have you talked to the "non-brothers" for a long time? They have long forgotten the Russian language
                2. 0
                  18 December 2019 13: 54
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Who will lay them out and WHERE?
                  Do we have media controlled there?
                  Do you seriously think that someone saw this press conference there?

                  Why the media? The article clearly states:The Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Valery Gerasimov spoke to the military attache of foreign states. During his speech, the general touched upon the issue of the militarization of the North Atlantic Alliance and the status of Russia fixed in his doctrine as one of the main opponents.(C)
                  Accordingly, this information will be communicated directly to the leadership of the countries whose attaches were present at the meeting.
                3. 0
                  19 December 2019 11: 43
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Who will lay them out and WHERE?
                  Do we have media controlled there?

                  It is enough to put them in sufficient quantities in our media, and then Putin at the next Norman summit to tell a joke, for example, this:
                  "England, 2025, a foggy morning in Salisbury, the pub bizarrely mixes aromas of English ale, oil and diesel fuel from the T-90 tanks parked near the cathedral. An BRDM is famously parked next to the pub, two Russian colonels come out of it, come in, order beer, sit by the window overlooking the spire and one of them says thoughtfully:
                  “You know, Alexander, what am I most sorry about right now?”
                  - What, Ruslan?
                  - Yes, it's a pity that we lost the information war in 2019! "

                  Interest in our arguments is increasing sharply, and the seeker will find ...
              2. +1
                18 December 2019 14: 30
                Do you want to show them pictures of Voronezh, a warrior?
        3. -4
          18 December 2019 07: 19
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          It’s unfortunate that the likely response is not voiced

          And if you think about it and not ask such questions?
          Who will tell you this?
          The whole deployment?
          Or invite you to the Operations department?
          Sound out in your head yourself what and how it will be.
          Do not sit on the "Babsky" channel
          1. +5
            18 December 2019 07: 26
            What is the location? Which Operations Division? What does the Operations Department have to do with the press conference and meeting with the attaché? It is enough to recall in the media the points of the Russian Nuclear Doctrine. You turn on your own mind before the keyboard!
            1. -8
              18 December 2019 07: 52
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              It is enough to recall in the media the points of the Nuclear Doctrine of the Russian Federation

              Well yes. Nobody knows her except you laughing
              But YOU need more
              that are not voiced likely response

              And this is yesterday's 60th anniversary
          2. +1
            18 December 2019 07: 29
            Quote: Lipchanin
            You need to chew, put in your mouth and show a card with arrows.
            And also places to show where the strike will strike
            Reply
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            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            It’s unfortunate that the likely response is not voiced

            And if you think about it and not ask such questions?
            Who will tell you this?
            The whole deployment?
            Or invite you to the Operations department?
            Sound out in your head yourself what and how it will be.
            Do not sit on the "Babsky" channel

            Stunned, he came up with a card with arrows, he exposed it, and is still broadcasting something about "Babskie channels". Hand face.
            1. -11
              18 December 2019 07: 48
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Stunned, he himself came up with a card with arrows,

              I figured out how and with what answer they will need to tell you ?????
              Face, which put food where the cracks will not go?
              1. +2
                18 December 2019 08: 07
                Quote: Lipchanin
                I figured out how and with what answer they will need to tell you ?????

                Something few question marks, the more of them the more coherent the text. Hysterical for sure.
                1. -12
                  18 December 2019 08: 28
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  Hysterical for sure.

                  Nah, it's just interesting how you feel after you haven’t been told what, how and who will answer laughing
                  Well, you are not mature enough laughing
                  And thanks for the "cons" from your team hi
                  So I'm right laughing
                  Already used to "minus" without reading tongue
                  1. +4
                    18 December 2019 08: 31
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    And thanks for the "cons" from your team

                    Less domestic TV series about mento / bandos see.
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    Nah, it's just interesting how you feel after you haven’t been told what, how and who will answer

                    What a view you have now taken, proud but terribly mysterious! I have so cat after the tray fools around.
                    1. -7
                      18 December 2019 09: 14
                      Quote: Vladimir_2U
                      Less domestic TV series about mento / bandos see.

                      For a long time on the site, seen enough of the likes ...
                      What kind of look did you take now?

                      See so far? laughing Probably a branded "pondzor" trumpet laughing
                      but terribly mysterious!

                      He gave the oath. Do not chat what horrible
                      I have so cat after the tray fools around.

                      So I know for a long time that pets are a mirror of their owners.
                      Go on. Or a tray to take out the leisure? laughing
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                      3. +13
                        18 December 2019 11: 13
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        Masterpiece ... Verbiage ... character set ...

                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        judging by your manners and powerful intellect,

                        Dear! Scoop off, plz, in the face !!! angry
                        Don't clutter up the site with "personal" relationships. And in such an aggressive manner! To me, and to many other members of the forum, your scrubbing .... well, extremely irritating, tk. essentially not a word ... But the "fountain of emotions" is higher than the Eiffel Tower! am
                  2. +4
                    18 December 2019 08: 49
                    Chief of General Staff of the RF Armed Forces announces NATO preparations for a large-scale conflict

                    And here is the primary source of information
                    I specially post the briefing video of the Chief of the General Staff
                    1. +1
                      18 December 2019 12: 45
                      Dmitry, apparently this is a briefing in 2018. Both in numbers and in joint exercises such as Vostok-2018 and in the words of Gerasimov about Trump's statement about the possibility of the United States withdrawing from the INF Treaty. At the very beginning, they also talk about the results of activities for 2018.
                      1. +2
                        18 December 2019 15: 20
                        Quote: asv363
                        Quote: Rich
                        And here is the primary source of information. I specially post a video of a briefing by the Chief of the General Staff
                        Dmitry, apparently this is a briefing in 2018.

                        Yes, Sergey Vyacheslavovich, you are right! I checked. This is really a briefing dated 5.12.2018/XNUMX/XNUMX.
                        But I still put "++" on both of you. For the information is still interesting.

                        See "Briefing of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Valery Gerasimov for foreign military attachés (5.12.2018)" -
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=252&v=EE1piUkN2oU&feature=emb_logo
        4. +1
          18 December 2019 10: 28
          It was not long to wait - 2024, so we continue to forge the shield and sword !!! angry soldier
      2. +4
        18 December 2019 06: 39
        Quote: bessmertniy
        Most likely, they will set fire to Ukraine and Georgia to the point of "hot" against Russia, perhaps they will experiment a little in the Baltic states.

        Victor, I will not correct you much hi They will not, they have already done this and will continue to crush us! Politically, financially, ideologically from within, stratifying our society !!
        1. +4
          18 December 2019 07: 00
          By stratification of society, there are enough of your own inner ones! Who cannot understand that this is impossible! So they do everything with their own hands. And ,, here, only to pick it up.
          1. +2
            18 December 2019 09: 18
            Dear Popuas, looking at your avatar, the first thing that comes to mind is "Let's hit. We'll definitely hit. But then"
            1. +2
              18 December 2019 09: 47
              Of course, we’ll have nowhere to go! But first you need to hit the inside angry
        2. 0
          18 December 2019 09: 05
          How to heat up to hot? Take the hose from the steam boiler and insert it in the right place and wait until the legushki rejoice the size of a bull? So even Krylova warned about the sad end of such an "experiment"
      3. +2
        18 December 2019 06: 46
        And Minsk-2 shows that Germany and France did not want a war with Russia in 2014-2015, however, I agree with Edik, they are leading a cold ...
        1. 0
          18 December 2019 07: 57
          Minsk-2 shows nothing. France and Germany did not have a chance to survive in a war with the use of nuclear weapons, what then, what now. And this is despite the fact that France has 4 submarines - "strategists" with nuclear weapons on board.
          1. 0
            18 December 2019 09: 47
            France and Germany had no chance to survive in the war with the use of nuclear weapons, which then, now

            Does the European part of Russia have many chances to survive? And with a large-scale attack from several sides?
            1. +2
              18 December 2019 10: 56
              Much more than France and Germany. Take one of the damaging factors - radioactive contamination. France has 58 nuclear power units located in a relatively small territory, Germany has 5. In principle, it can be demolished without the use of nuclear weapons, but with nuclear weapons it is more reliable. We do not have such a concentration in the European part.
              If we are talking about a war with the United States, and with the entire NATO bloc, then up to 50% of the population will survive, the United States from 50%. True, these are not the most recent estimates, they were made on the basis of a larger number of nuclear weapons, both among the number of warheads and carriers.
              1. 0
                18 December 2019 11: 20
                I agree with you about surviving, BUT that's how to live in the future? It’s even scary to think, Chernobyl is resting.
              2. +7
                18 December 2019 11: 32
                Ours stated that we would strike at decision centers. NATO will traditionally bomb sleeping areas. And what kind of war will it be? Upon impact, a blockade is automatically entered along the borders of Russia. The population of Russia and capital countries? Plus industrial production, agriculture, medicine. How does all this compare in Russia with the rest of the world? How will our rulers with capitals abroad perceive the blockade? Here, more likely, preparations are underway for another scenario. If the idea of ​​socialism suddenly arises in Russia, then import bourgeoisie will come to the aid of our bourgeoisie. And they will try to divide Russia into small principalities. With the collapse of the USSR, the country has already been divided, and here they will continue to divide. That is most likely the case in which NATO is being trained. The point of attacking Russia today? We ourselves invite foreigners! There is a retired Swedish major, Bu Andersson raised us GAZ and VAZ! Foreigners also sit on the boards of directors of the public domain.
              3. 0
                18 December 2019 17: 29
                Quote: asv363
                If we are talking about a war with the United States, and with the entire NATO bloc, then up to 50% of the population will survive, the United States from 50%. True, these are not the most recent estimates, they were made on the basis of a larger number of nuclear weapons, both among the number of warheads and carriers.

                I once read that in the USA 10% of the population will survive, in Russia 30%.
                1. +2
                  19 December 2019 00: 33
                  Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
                  I once read that in the USA 10% of the population will survive, in Russia 30%.

                  So it was when the population lived in villages and small towns. Now it is enough to shy around Moscow and immediately - 50%.
          2. -2
            18 December 2019 09: 56
            In 2014-15, they tried to drag Russia into the military conflict in the Donbass through the genocide of the Russian people "new Srebrenitsa" (s) and the Malaysian Boeing was shot down to start a war on the continent. What came out of this - Minsk-2, Normandy format. Fortunately, Merkel had enough brains and she said at the last meeting to Putin "You won today" ...
      4. 0
        18 December 2019 07: 16
        Quote: bessmertniy
        perhaps a little experiment in the Baltic states.

        Most likely on them. Not for nothing that little by little they pull in equipment and hp.
      5. +5
        18 December 2019 09: 19
        To my great regret, you are right, the United States will let Ukraine go for a pitchfork. on us, about the Georgians, they realized that their songs are good, but as soldiers there are zero, therefore they allocate money and instructors to Ukraine. They will immediately kill two birds with one stone, and this war will weaken us and the Russians will kill each other. I immediately remember the words of Churchill, now the war has received shame. Eh it was necessary in 2014. resolve this issue, and not look at the sanctions, they were announced anyway!
        1. +7
          18 December 2019 11: 26
          Quote: Sailor
          they were announced anyway!
          They announced, but not to our oligarchs, the West then made it clear where and who had the money of our "elite", and therefore surrendered Ukraine. Whatever you want, climbed into capitalism, under someone else's rules, under the world leader and master of the system. War, and fighting dogs have war, fight to the death for their masters, and they make bets on this, make money. Anti-Russia is being molded from the former Ukraine, if they do not win, they will "nibble" it. Demonization of Russia, where their brothers capitalists are in power, is just super profits in the arms race. Nuclear war? For some, this is an unacceptable pollution of essential resources on Russian territory; for others, it is a blow to their own junk that lies in other people's banks and foreign currency. So, they puff their cheeks, make money, raise ratings, write off the problems of the outdated capitalist system. Whoever suffers is the common people.
        2. 0
          18 December 2019 17: 36
          Quote: Sailor
          To my great regret, you are right, the United States will let Ukraine go for a pitchfork. on us, about the Georgians, they realized that their songs are good, but as soldiers there are zero, therefore they allocate money and instructors to Ukraine. They will immediately kill two birds with one stone, and this war will weaken us and the Russians will kill each other. I immediately remember the words of Churchill, now the war has received shame. Eh it was necessary in 2014. resolve this issue, and not look at the sanctions, they were announced anyway!

          This issue could only be resolved in 1991 by accidentally pushing the EBN under the tank, for example. And now it's late. Economically, the Russian Federation will not pull against the West even a hot, at least a cold war.
      6. +2
        18 December 2019 10: 22
        Quote: bessmertniy
        Ukraine and Georgia, perhaps a little experiment in the Baltic states.

        Well, you shouldn’t forget about Psheks, who are arming themselves intensely with an eye on Kaliningrad
      7. 0
        18 December 2019 14: 01
        It is rather than the Turks with the Greeks.
      8. +2
        18 December 2019 14: 41
        Quote: bessmertniy
        NATO will look for options for an external conflict, not an internal one. Most likely, they will set fire to Ukraine and Georgia to the point of "hot" against Russia, perhaps they will experiment a little in the Baltic states.

        No, they will not do. Everything is much simpler. As many states bordering the Russian Federation as possible will crush under themselves and build bases on their territory, and wait. At the same time, by all means, shatter the situation inside the Russian Federation, accumulating anti-Russian sentiments.
        They have long understood, and Soros’s example is that we can be bent not from the outside, but only from the inside. The power option is not considered at all in the near future, as long as we have a Strategic Missile Forces.
      9. 0
        19 December 2019 11: 36
        The main shock "backbone", as I understand it, will be ukromaydanuty kakly, psheks and "capture groups" from the Baltic hyperstates, and in the south they will be waiting in ambush for the genatswale Ahmanagi. And behind will be detachments from the most powerful army.
  2. +6
    18 December 2019 06: 23
    NATO is building up its military capabilities near the borders of Russia, is engaged in the militarization of the Baltic and Black Seas
    At the same time, the United States and the EU are screaming foaming at the mouth about the "Russian threat" and the need to confront it. Screaming Europe today (some of its representatives) tomorrow may find itself at the fact of its disappearance, but for some reason "naively" believes that Russia should disappear, and after that they will live happily. The political freak sits on the freak and urges the freak on.
    1. +1
      18 December 2019 06: 40
      Therefore, they yell that it is necessary to justify a possible invasion or provocation. Like, they acted ahead of the curve, so they started first so that Russia would not have time to start.
      1. +1
        18 December 2019 06: 50
        it would work if we, like hysterics, answered everything. but while brains are enough with a saber not to wave. on the contrary, by conducting various events such as the World Cup, show people who we really are.
        1. 0
          18 December 2019 17: 41
          Quote: carstorm 11
          it would work if we, like hysterics, answered everything. but while brains are enough with a saber not to wave. on the contrary, by conducting various events such as the World Cup, show people who we really are.

          "People" before us are completely violet - someone has a mortgage, someone has problems with work, someone has medical insurance. They will watch and trust the one on whom they depend, and not at all the reports from the World Cup.
    2. +2
      18 December 2019 09: 23
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Screaming Europe today (some of its representatives) tomorrow may find itself at the fact of its disappearance, but for some reason, "naively" believes that Russia should disappear

      It would be interesting to look at a map of the world on which the colors of various colors and shades would show the degree of damage, destruction and loss of life after a nuclear apocalypse. It is clear that some territories of the USA and the Russian Federation there would have been quite thickly smeared. But in place of Europe there would be one big scary spot.
      1. +7
        18 December 2019 11: 45
        And where is the opinion that the life of people is dear to the West? Indeed, in the states there is a monument where it is written that the world's population should not exceed 500 million people. They probably already calculated the optimal costs for the extraction and processing of resources and the optimal number of people. That's based on the proposed amount and will reduce the population. First time or something! And after all, they cut quite successfully! War, then disease. Then recovery and war again. Today, few ways to reduce have been added. In Russia today, the population is also declining in a humane way. And in case of war, there will be no parsing of funds. The main goal of the war is to reduce the world's population! Will the Indians and Chinese remain? They’ll come up with something for them.
  3. +1
    18 December 2019 06: 25
    According to Valery Gerasimov, at the same time, any step by Russia to ensure its own security in the alliance is perceived as a "threat to peace", and the thesis about the alleged threat is actively picked up and disseminated by Western propagandists.
    Monkeys with a grenade, forgetting that the oceans do not share them with Russia. They do not take into account the fact that the famous expression of Cornelius, "If you want peace, prepare for war," is a double-edged weapon.
  4. +7
    18 December 2019 06: 28
    Nothing new has happened since the creation of the world. Man to man is the enemy.
    1. 0
      18 December 2019 17: 44
      Quote: Sergey 23
      Nothing new has happened since the creation of the world. Man to man is the enemy.

      I was raised in the USSR differently.
  5. -1
    18 December 2019 06: 37
    Well, they are building up, they see everything perfectly. The battalion is there, the company is here, the boat is there, the plane link is here. everything is in sight. It would be worse if, like Hitler, 120 divisions at the border, wow. And NATO, for Russia today is not an adversary. Moreover, Russia has full nuclear potential. Yes, and they forgot how to fight. Pampered consumer society, women gynecologists, ministers of defense, blue and transvestites in the army, and so on, on points that the armed forces, does not add any combat capability.
    1. +2
      18 December 2019 07: 22
      I also think that there will be nothing at the European theater, Turkey and Israel may conflict over hydrocarbon deposits in the Mediterranean.
    2. +4
      18 December 2019 11: 32
      Quote: orionvitt
      But NATO, for Russia today is not an adversary.

      1. And against whom they train all the time ... Really Popuasiya rebelled and threatens the States !?
      2. Look at the balance of forces of the parties at leisure ... Maybe then "there will be a clearing in the mind ..." (Economy, Armed Forces, human resources ...)
      3. No Europeans want war. But the States by proxy, but not on their own territory ... according to the scheme of "provocation-escalation-conflict of low intensity - full-scale war with conventional weapons ..." And then we will have to drive them back into their holes with a vigorous mallet!
      So, - the enemy is strong, cunning and treacherous! And you: - NATO is not an adversary for Russia!
      Nonsense! Opponent, and what!
      AHA.
      1. -1
        18 December 2019 15: 13
        Gyyy..nuclear clapper)) You first select this clapper or do you think that the button controls the people? Who has power, he controls ... socially close to the Western bourgeoisie. Comrad Per.se above painted everything correctly, I will not repeat it.
    3. +1
      18 December 2019 11: 51
      This is how they do not know how to fight? Won Yugoslavia defeated. Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria on fire. The USSR was defeated and chopped up by considerable territories. And what have we recaptured from Europeans and Americans? What economic and military blocs have been created to counter them? We returned the Crimea? But they captured the rest of Ukraine. You’ll think about who knows how to fight and who doesn’t.
      1. 0
        18 December 2019 21: 22
        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
        Won Yugoslavia defeated. Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria on fire

        You write, don’t sign up, turn on the brain. They compared Yugoslavia or Libya with Russia. And for reference, they did not defeat the USSR, but destroyed it by cunning, with the help of local people of a liberal sense, with reduced social responsibility.
        You’ll think about who knows how to fight and who doesn’t.
        Do not confuse political games with direct military confrontation. I repeat, turn on the brain at least sometimes, otherwise they mixed everything into one pile. Ukraine, with Syria.
  6. -5
    18 December 2019 06: 43
    Gerasimov pumps again
    1. +4
      18 December 2019 06: 53
      he has such a job. he is the chief of the General Staff and is obliged to calculate the most negative options and put them in priority. optimism, such work is not sharpened by definition. WWII school forever drove it into the subcortex and nobody wants to repeat that experience.
    2. -1
      18 December 2019 09: 49
      Give me the type of money !? As the Amer’s admirals sound like that, the locals write ... give me money ... wassat
      1. -1
        18 December 2019 11: 01
        Quote: Popuas
        Give me the type of money !? As the Amer’s admirals sound like that, the locals write ... give me money ... wassat

        That is how
    3. +4
      18 December 2019 10: 33
      According to your R. Sorge also caught up!?! am
      If Gerasimov voiced, then not from empty sack! soldier
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    1. +1
      18 December 2019 06: 57
      You see, scammers have been and will be. some circuits close immediately others arise. all over the world like that. that’s why people are still doing this; this is a more important issue. I fig where I’ll carry the money until I check it 20 times. what they built where they built how they built. that it is necessary to invest money at the construction stage and not at the blah blah blah blah stage there will be a house.
      1. -9
        18 December 2019 07: 23
        You, yes .... We are all "smart" until we get into trouble ... I wonder what is happening in our government. Why should NATO attack us then ???
        1. +1
          18 December 2019 21: 12
          Quote: Angelo Provolone
          Why should we attack us ???

          There is no need to go to Italy, for you have been there for so long. Yes
    2. -1
      18 December 2019 11: 03
      The meaning and purpose of the attack on Russia is not clear if everything in one way or another in Russia belongs to the West and China.
  8. +2
    18 December 2019 07: 04
    in the photo of 25 infantry freaks? Is it from the exercises in Europe or something?
  9. -1
    18 December 2019 07: 14
    This statement was made just before the press conference of our president, in order to let us know to the boobies that we have a pillar on which we can lean. Tomorrow the main topic will probably be about the enemies around us and the need to rally, well, and not to relax our belts. whom weakened due to a sunken abdomen, tighten.
    1. +3
      18 December 2019 07: 24
      This is the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and not the State Duma. there everyone is deeply lilac on the pressuhi and on you and on me. thinking is different. global. so do not escalate)
      1. +2
        18 December 2019 11: 45
        Quote: carstorm 11
        This is the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and not the State Duma

        Dmitry! Write correctly: General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, not MO! Yes, and the State Duma with a capital letter ... Yes
        But.
        1. +3
          18 December 2019 11: 50
          yes I know) I'm just in a hurry somewhere all the time and attach little importance to this) but as for the State Duma, I wrote everything correctly))) you must earn the capital letter at least)
        2. +1
          18 December 2019 21: 14
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          Write correctly: General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, and not MO!

          Inspired by:
          "That is why my uncle is the Deputy Chief of the General Staff, and there is nobody in the Defense Ministry ?!"(film "Day of the Radio") laughing
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  10. -1
    18 December 2019 07: 32
    Gerasimov emphasized that NATO is building up its military potential near the borders of Russia, is engaged in the militarization of the Baltic and Black Seas against the background of the constant advancement of the thesis about the “Russian threat”.

    Eh, yes, many more ... but many may already fail! it can be the END time, though for everyone!
  11. -23
    18 December 2019 07: 37
    Yes, .... First, they themselves rattled with weapons, then Armata, then SU, then Pak DA, then Dagger ... Through all channels, all over Europe (HB 13), and when they started to do the same, guard, militarization ...
    Funny.
    1. +3
      18 December 2019 11: 55
      Quote: 30143
      At first they themselves rattled with weapons,

      This "rattling" pushed the "D-Day" from 2020 to a later period ...
      Because it’s not the dumkopfs sitting behind the hill, but adequate specialists who always (!) Consider the combat potential and capabilities of new types of weapons and military equipment. And try them on to the balance of power of the parties ... Further - will there be acceptable losses?
      So, our propaganda worked to "sober up" the hot heads of the foreign ...
      Accordingly - the answer was not long in coming! It could not be otherwise ...
      1. -1
        18 December 2019 18: 27
        Dear, Boa constrictor! Unfortunately, we ourselves, about ... whether the Union. Dispersed the Republic. They all wanted to be princes and kings. And then, when they saw that the food supply began to decline (taxpayers), let's call new ones ... And people are already used to living without brain-biting ...
        And now they think they are collectors of land. When they broke the system through the knee, thought? Or again, as always, maybe ... hemorrhoids resolve?
        No! Only surgically. And this is blood, devastation. And do not blame for 2020.
        It seems that at the forum people continue to rest against the Marxist-Leninist platform. And in the country that you have, that unas in Ukraine is ruled by oligarchic capitalism. And your entire government, as well as our proteges.
        This, in the words of the Great Leader, is a separation from reality!
        Speaking of Leader. I do not see such a scale of personality on the horizon.
        Therefore, rockets do not fly and engines do not produce and aircraft carriers do not build.
        I'm trying to look sober, and you have - Urya ... Urya ... Caps up!
        You do not understand that no one is going to climb to you. More expensive for yourself. The government itself will exorcise you ...
        1. -2
          18 December 2019 21: 19
          Quote: 30143
          in Ukraine

          Quote: 30143
          I'm trying to look sober

          However, two mutually exclusive statements. laughing
          Quote: 30143
          The government itself will exorcise you ...

          Yes, we’ll figure out the thread, and for sure, without alternative, adequate advice. Yes
          1. -1
            18 December 2019 23: 17
            This is the problem, you do not want to hear or listen to anyone. You know, you can argue with the "Nazis", as you call them (derogatory, diminutive). And here some of them stand like roadside pillars ... Until they are either broken or demolished. I do not want to offend, but somehow narrow-mindedness on the forum began to prevail. You would advise how to resist the bureaucratic army. How to deal with lawlessness in housing and communal services?
            And so .... If there is no water in the tap, then they drank .... If there is water in the tap, then ... there. Who? You can substitute any combination.
  12. +4
    18 December 2019 07: 43
    Well, let them jerk, they’ll get in the teeth, calm down.
    1. 0
      18 December 2019 12: 04
      What did the non-profit organizations invading us get? It is unclear how we responded to the seizure and seizure of property and sanctions on the Olympics. What will happen at the next Olympics? Somehow we are afraid to strike. it is understandable. After all, they can hit our gas flows. And it will be a mortal blow. Cut off Russia gas, what will it do with it? And a lot of money has been invested in it!
  13. +5
    18 December 2019 07: 49
    NATO can pump up the Baltic states and Poland as much as possible with all sorts of Danes, Dutch and other Portuguese.
    We know their combat "value" from the history of two world wars.
    A new Cold War is in full swing.
    Take care of your nerves. No tantrums.
    "Tolerant armies" with a stock of diapers in tactical backpacks and lipstick from chapping lips in their pockets will never be able to defeat Russia.
    Much more dangerous is stalling into the abyss of a sudden global war. By mistake or due to the provocation of neurotics.
    We will be vigilant!
    1. 0
      18 December 2019 12: 43
      Quote: Paul Siebert
      NATO can pump up the Baltic states and Poland as much as possible with all sorts of Danes, Dutch and other Portuguese.
      We know their combat "value" from the history of two world wars.
      A new Cold War is in full swing.

      Cannon meat can sometimes be a useful accessory. So much money is being pumped out of these countries now, and they can’t even utter a word.
  14. +6
    18 December 2019 08: 18
    So this is understandable. The whole question is not whether we will fight or not, but when the war will begin.
  15. +1
    18 December 2019 08: 24
    Yes, I watched this press conference on the star. It looked ridiculous - Gerasimov seemed to be reporting to foreign attaches, how we are upgrading the aircraft, how many submarines are planned to be delivered this year, how many% of new weapons in the troops. Anyone interested can see for yourself.
    1. +1
      18 December 2019 11: 22
      Minuser - you will find the full video of the press conference, and not the fragment where he talks about NATO
  16. +7
    18 December 2019 08: 34
    Of course, the gentlemen from NATO are ready to fight with Russia until the last Ukrainian, Georgian and Pole, but in my subjective opinion, the deployment of small formations near the borders of Russia rather speaks not of a desire for a direct invasion, but of plans to provide "Humanitarian" assistance to those wishing to change the regime in the country, they they teach history well and know Russia can only be destroyed from within.
    1. +4
      18 December 2019 09: 07
      Quote: okunevich_rv
      and they know you can destroy Russia only from the inside.


      They are doing this systematically, everything else is dust and cutting money.
  17. +1
    18 December 2019 08: 40
    Quote: 30143
    Yes, .... First, they themselves rattled with weapons, then Armata, then SU, then Pak DA, then Dagger ... Through all channels, all over Europe (HB 13), and when they started to do the same, guard, militarization ...
    Funny.
    They spoke and warned more than once, they did not need to expand. laughing If they are boobs then this is their problem laughing
  18. +4
    18 December 2019 08: 58
    Our General Staff need to talk less with those whose brain has died. Conduct large-scale exercises. Show strength! Typically, such brains immediately stand in a row, though not for long.
  19. +6
    18 December 2019 09: 05
    No, the third world world is not needed by anyone, however, having made an "evil empire" out of Russia in a few years and continuing to strengthen such sentiments, you can carry out an "interesting" scheme - imagine a state that, in the eyes of all states of the planet, is a "bad guy" Yes, it has nuclear weapons, but the requirements that he is presented does not mean his complete destruction, but rather "balanced" (meaning that the elite "does not lose so much and perhaps gains" the population is being "brainwashed" that it is so right "that you are" still wrong "are being fed" nat elites "are being forced internal religious and ethnic contradictions, the level of income decreases) As a "carrot", the prospects for categories of the population with different views are painted: -one "we must endure higher forces will help us (later)" others, you will live poorly but "cleanly" in a small European country ( after the weaning of territories) and we will help you with money, maybe not even on credit to the third - "now the whole world is open in front of you" (we will help to dump pr and desire) and so on there are a lot of options A as a "whip" - you are surrounded by NATO China Japan evil Poles punitive brigades of Ukrainians and Balts in the south ISIS fighters Throw in infa that as a result of the conflict there will be no men in the country (especially against the background of internal ethnic contradictions and a bad demographic situation in the Russians, an effective horror story) describes in great detail the atrocities of the punishers from the "former" which they will commit T e as an alternative - total destruction, and the "destruction is sadistic" at the moment there is no doubt) We will say no, no one will do this for them there is no reason (we already sell resources for paper waste to ourselves, but they have only gays there and they are not able to fight) besides, we have nuclear weapons All these are delusions other than nuclear weapons And what is nuclear weapons is the possibility of its use, which depends on its availability and, roughly speaking, "political will when pressing the button ki "And believe me, the enemy is working in this direction. You can still write a lot, but it's enough just to imagine such a politician as" Gorby "at the head of the state - will he press the button? (I apologize in advance for the overly emotional text)
  20. +3
    18 December 2019 09: 05
    According to the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, all this testifies to the systematic preparation of NATO for an armed conflict


    They never stopped her, and now they are doing it at our borders.
    1. +2
      18 December 2019 12: 12
      And why should they stop NATO? Meaning? Their world is imprisoned for domination. We stupidly surrendered our world. And the surrender began with the withdrawal of our limited military contingent from the territory of the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan. We then sent them a clear signal, we surrender! They carry out their task, the globalization of the world for themselves. Does it make sense for them to stop if they complete the task? Or did we challenge them?
  21. 0
    18 December 2019 09: 31
    There is no need to fight against Russia at the moment, it’s enough to stop buying resources from it and half the money will not be paid to the annual budget; anyone who fumbles a bit in the economy will understand what it is. Indeed, in fact, Europe is the breadwinner of Russia.
    Will Russian officials declare war on NATO and shoot at their relatives and money at the banks that are there? So do not tell.
    1. +3
      18 December 2019 09: 39
      Hehe ... punish merchants in this way, do not buy from them either food, or basic necessities, or clothing, say, within a year - and commerce will perish, because in fact, you are their breadwinner ... wassat

      In the meantime, that Europe is queuing up for resources, take the same "flows" - no sanctions have stopped them and will not stop them - everyone wants to eat ...
    2. +2
      18 December 2019 11: 22
      It depends on what officials. Which are under sanctions and close to them, they are non grata in the West and have long withdrawn money from their banks, fearing sequestration. These may well press the button.
    3. +2
      18 December 2019 12: 18
      Quote: Karaul14
      Indeed, in fact, Europe is the breadwinner of Russia.

      Oh oh Still, we export grain, not EUROPE!
      - Europe without raw materials? Are you a joker in any way? But their industry will rise, that the workers will survive this normally and will say thanks to the entrepreneurs?
      - Without gas, German power plants quickly burn all their brown coal, while spoiling the entire local environment, And then what? Wait for Uncle Sam to send a LNG carrier? And 30% more to pay for it? Yes, you still have not learned the essence of capital so far!
      - And where will Europe put their products? Amam does not need it, Africa is not creditworthy, China itself is ready to inject everything that it wants at dumping prices ... Rush remains!
      Therefore, it is not necessary to la-la ... You need to "fumble a little in the economy" ...
      But!
      1. 0
        18 December 2019 17: 50
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        - Without gas, German power plants quickly burn all their brown coal, while spoiling the entire local environment, And then what? Wait for Uncle Sam to send a LNG carrier?

        According to 1997 data, reliable and estimated brown coal mining reserves in Germany amounted to 160 billion tons, and coal reserves - 35 billion tons. This means that their coal production should be enough for another 560 years.
  22. +2
    18 December 2019 09: 40
    Quote: Karaul14
    There is no need to fight against Russia at the moment, it’s enough to stop buying resources from it and half the money will not be paid to the annual budget; anyone who fumbles a bit in the economy will understand what it is. Indeed, in fact, Europe is the breadwinner of Russia.
    Will Russian officials declare war on NATO and shoot at their relatives and money at the banks that are there? So do not tell.

    Let them try laughing BMW and Audi owners and Gazprom shareholders will run to the Bundestag with batons and they will insist on turnips for the most I can’t. laughing
  23. -7
    18 December 2019 09: 46
    If people taught history, they would know that all these preparations are only political intimidation of the cowardly and near power of Russia. State policy is created over the years and by society, and not by individuals. One-man management is good for military operations on the battlefields, and not in politics. And so the leader of a handful of officials can catch the old women, and he will make concessions from fear, and not from reality. It happened in 1878. having won the war with Turkey and creating great Bulgaria and access to the Mediterranean Sea, Alexander was frightened of the French and the British, who threatened the war thereby won the war, lost and set a precedent, showing the whole world that Russia didn’t need a war to seriously sing it and do it with what do you want her. Let us recall at least Gorbachev was scared by the animated film about the SDI program, and from fear he broke so much firewood that he couldn’t take another century.
  24. +3
    18 December 2019 10: 10
    Quote: verumvita
    If people taught history, they would know that all these preparations are only political intimidation of the cowardly and near power of Russia. State policy is created over the years and by society, and not by individuals. One-man management is good for military operations on the battlefields, and not in politics. And so the leader of a handful of officials can catch the old women, and he will make concessions from fear, and not from reality. It happened in 1878. having won the war with Turkey and creating great Bulgaria and access to the Mediterranean Sea, Alexander was frightened of the French and the British, who threatened the war thereby won the war, lost and set a precedent, showing the whole world that Russia didn’t need a war to seriously sing it and do it with what do you want her. Let us recall at least Gorbachev was scared by the animated film about the SDI program, and from fear he broke so much firewood that he couldn’t take another century.

    "Great post" laughing Alexander 2 was frightened by the economic costs than the mythical coalition of Britain, Austria and Prussia. What is "Great Bulgaria" if it was a principality dependent on Turkey. According to the articles of the Treaty of San Stefano, Serbia and Montenegro were proclaimed completely independent states. Bulgaria became an autonomous principality. Bosnia and Herzegovina also received autonomy.
  25. +1
    18 December 2019 10: 28
    Low actual combat readiness of NATO: sappers live in one country, tankers in another, artillerymen in a third, and so on. The US divided everyone so that it would be more convenient for all European countries to control in this way. In summer they gather them for ritual post-shootings, which they call teachings. All communication is on the air, they all speak different languages, only officers in English. The United States created such a NATO structure that would radically block the potential resistance from its allies. There are fears that NATO, with its formal amount, suffers from a complete lack of quality. NATO is the political giant wow laughing
  26. 0
    18 December 2019 10: 34
    And how are they preparing it? belay laughing Shaw, quickly lay down with their feet to the atomic explosion so that you can see where the eggs will fly? In four years [by 2024], all missile regiments and divisions will be armed with modern strategic complexes. The Soviet-made arsenal by that time will not remain in the troops. This was announced by the commander of the Strategic Missile Forces, Colonel-General Sergei Karakaev. Then "inexorably approaching laughing
  27. +2
    18 December 2019 10: 53
    Without Russia, the World is not needed ... (c)
    We will go to Paradise, and they ...... (s)
    *************
    NATO geeks apparently think that he is joking. feel
    LETTERS
    ..not for that in the Second World War 27 million souls were put in, so that now some kind of "transformers" would threaten Russia)
    1. -1
      18 December 2019 11: 21
      You and others like you who are screaming, we are the whole world in ruins, nothing really depends on you. Answer your question: Why didn’t one use chemical weapons during the 2nd MV?
      1. +1
        18 December 2019 12: 38
        Due to questionable effectiveness. Chemical weapons were still used in WW1, but it did not decide the course of the battles. But nuclear weapons were used in World War II.
  28. -4
    18 December 2019 11: 09
    What is considered necessary and prepared. And what are we preparing for? Wheelbarrows in the desert and drive?
    And I want to tell all commentators of the type, "deliver a preemptive strike against Washington," my friends, I’ve been unable to find a turner in the Moscow region for two weeks, to make the simplest rotation detail. Found in the Yaroslavl region, grandfather under 70 years. Who are you going to fight with?
    1. +4
      18 December 2019 11: 34
      For defeatist sentiment in general, you need to put it on the wall, this is the same as betrayal, even worse .... a whiner and a butterfly net.
      1. -5
        18 December 2019 11: 38
        Grow up first. Finish school.
        1. +3
          18 December 2019 11: 52
          Go immediately surrender to the mercy of the Amers .. "With whom are you going to fight?" in. agent, I am 38 years old.
          On hardly you from Russia at all, great ukrop)
    2. +1
      18 December 2019 11: 36
      At YOU apparently the hands are not growing out of the shoulders, take it yourself, and carve out the detail, well, or ask for your wife, and go get the borscht yourself)))
  29. +1
    18 December 2019 11: 19
    Quote: vandarus
    What is considered necessary and prepared. And what are we preparing for? Wheelbarrows in the desert and drive?
    And I want to tell all commentators of the type, "deliver a preemptive strike against Washington," my friends, I’ve been unable to find a turner in the Moscow region for two weeks, to make the simplest rotation detail. Found in the Yaroslavl region, grandfather under 70 years. Who are you going to fight with?
    What is the problem ? Grossmaster is also looking laughing
  30. +1
    18 December 2019 12: 30
    Quote: vandarus
    You and others like you who are screaming, we are the whole world in ruins, nothing really depends on you. Answer your question: Why didn’t one use chemical weapons during the 2nd MV?

    You are my friend "strategist", however - they will not fail laughing
    1. -1
      18 December 2019 15: 25
      Send emoticons to your wife. Or husband
  31. +1
    18 December 2019 12: 32
    Quote: vandarus
    Grow up first. Finish school.
    In the context associated with the word “school”, we will correctly say or write “graduate from school”. In the choice of verbs-synonyms “finish” or “graduate” school we are guided by a specific context. In Russian, the words "finish" and "finish" have the same lexical meaning "complete something." But nevertheless there is a difference in their use in speech, which we indicate in a certain context.
    Are you my friend then with secondary education? wassat
  32. +1
    18 December 2019 12: 35
    The smallest crawl of NATO towards Russia should be instantly paralyzed with NATO damage unacceptable, up to the destruction of the aggressor country and all bases in America as a provocateur country.
  33. +1
    18 December 2019 12: 37
    NATO decision centers are well known. Russia's security is above all. Let them draw conclusions. hi
  34. 0
    18 December 2019 12: 38
    Quote: Ros 56
    The smallest crawl of NATO towards Russia should be instantly paralyzed with NATO damage unacceptable, up to the destruction of the aggressor country and all bases in America as a provocateur country.

    Do not hit hard and accurately laughing
  35. -1
    18 December 2019 12: 46
    According to the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, all this testifies to the systematic preparation of NATO for an armed conflict with attempts to first achieve dominance on land, at sea, in space and cyberspace.

    Strengthen the eastern borders, yes, but this does not mean that a mess is going to. The chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is somehow strange, but with a rich imagination.
    We increase the cost of the army, put the equipment in the armed forces. According to Valera, should NATO do nothing?
    Give me back my 825th AD
  36. +1
    18 December 2019 13: 10
    The nuclear triad should be strengthened in every way, and its means of control should be diversified. So that one betrayal does not paralyze the whole system. And then it’s very scary, and it’s scary not for opponents at all, the danger is primarily ...
  37. 0
    18 December 2019 14: 10
    There was such a case in our village. "(C). Not so long ago, it seems in Estonia, one snatch launched a missile from an airplane towards Russia. It was lucky that the missile did not even reach the border, although the distance there was nothing laughing
  38. 0
    18 December 2019 14: 30
    “Unnoticed news: tax authorities have access to databases of 88 jurisdictions (76 states and 12 territories). Now no one and nothing can stop fiscals from receiving all the necessary financial information online. Horror. There are Cyprus, and Luxembourg, and BVI, and many others. The point is that from now on the flight of money abroad to private accounts without providing a declaration (like, I'm the smartest) becomes useless. As well as the management of a controlled foreign company: they still recognize and roll out the fine. Who there thinks that business, having received a progressive income, will steal the loot abroad? Oh well. Teach the fools. Just do not forget to leave your coordinates. For the inevitable show, "


    Details: https://regnum.ru/news/economy/2810749.html
    laughing .
  39. -3
    18 December 2019 15: 23
    As, however, the intellectual level of VO commentators fell. Quite often, couch cheers patriots are young. I will leave this zoo.
    1. -3
      18 December 2019 17: 43
      Quote: vandarus
      As, however, the intellectual level of VO commentators fell. Quite often, couch cheers patriots are young. I will leave this zoo.

      It is high time that I was sitting here waiting for 4 years then hehe And how many more of you "waiting for something" bully Vali and take your own .. negative
      1. -1
        18 December 2019 18: 33
        Sorry, I also got the impression. Moreover, the level of tolerance has decreased significantly. Forgot to listen to another opinion.
        1. NGK
          +2
          19 December 2019 18: 42
          I support you completely and completely! I don’t comment on anything for a long time and don’t enter into polemics! Because not only the level of tolerance has decreased, but also the education and intelligence of commentators. The site has ceased to be a free forum of free opinions of all comers. A little something is wrong, and from all sides it rushes ... Vali from the forum, Vali with all of their ... Vali in their Dill ... etc. Neither the mind nor the education is enough for a worthy counterargument! It became uninteresting, and sometimes it’s disgusting to read it all! You open the site out of habit, but the desire to do it less and less. And on the topic - we won’t fight back - who will be at Headquarters ... Kudrin ... Medvedev ... Shvydko and Chubais .. or Nabiullina with Valery Matvienko? Or maybe German Gref will lead tank columns to Berlin ... or maybe Putin himself V.V. ... to Holland ... to visit his daughter on a tank? And in factories ... by the way, which are no longer ... who will be behind the machines ... there are no turners, no welders ... there are no crane operators and tractor drivers ... but turners are toolmakers ... remember there was such a profession? Was recently at one of the shipyard - a turner to pierce the ship’s shaft searched throughout the city and found a 68-year-old pensioner barely! And you say! They sold us for a long time with giblets!
          1. -1
            19 December 2019 19: 06
            "It has become uninteresting, and sometimes disgusting to read it all! You open the site out of habit, but the desire to do it is less and less."
            As they say, they removed it from the tongue.
            I completely agree with your diagnosis.
  40. -2
    18 December 2019 17: 41
    Does anyone remember the time when no one threatened Russia ..?
    The very main and dangerous enemy of Russia is internal, they are waiting in the wings to completely ruin and destroy us ..
    I’m for Putin, I’m worrying about something .. It’s not for nothing that NATO has recently been pulling troops to the borders and crushing, crushing crushing ..
    We’ll break through, do you think men are well there in Moscow ..?
    In the Urals, etc., then we get rid of something .. We have nothing to lose, but we are worried about Muscovites hehe
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  41. 0
    18 December 2019 17: 49
    Quote: vandarus
    Send emoticons to your wife. Or husband

    Walk the puppy laughing
    1. -3
      18 December 2019 18: 35
      Well, you, in fact, are rude!
      The level of intelligence has decreased on the site, and the level of line has increased!
      Not a good person to write like that!
      There is no Professor Preobrazhensky on you ...
      1. -2
        18 December 2019 20: 01
        Quote: 30143
        The level of intelligence has decreased on the site, and the level of line has increased!

        More Jews with neoliberals who hate Russia minusculers? .. wink
        I got it?
        Quote: 30143
        Not a good person to write like that!
        There is no Professor Preobrazhensky on you ...

        Well, "Professor" here we have "our own" (we take care of him))) .. It has long been hehe

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