Global warhead delivery range. Sarmat today and tomorrow

Russian Strategic Rocket Forces celebrate their 60th anniversary with new work aimed at increasing combat effectiveness and maintaining combat potential. In this context, the project of a promising complex with the RS-28 Sarmat intercontinental missile is of particular importance. Now preparations are underway for a new stage of testing, and in a few years the finished sample will go into service.

According to the commander in chief ...

The latest information about the status and prospects of the Sarmat project was recently announced by Colonel General Sergei Karakaev, Commander of the Strategic Missile Forces. An interview with him was published on December 16 in The Red Star.

According to S. Karakaev, preparations are underway for conducting state flight tests of a new rocket. In addition, the leading military universities are already studying the characteristics, design and capabilities of the new complex.

The leading enterprise in the serial production of Sarmatov will be the Krasnoyarsk Machine-Building Plant. Now it is modernizing the production base, due to which new tasks will be solved in the future.

The Commander-in-Chief reaffirmed that the first new weapon will receive the 62nd missile Uzhursky Red Banner Division (Krasnoyarsk Territory). According to previous reports, now they are preparing to receive promising missiles there.

The new-generation Sarmat complex is intended to replace the older R-36M2 Voyevoda systems. As mass production, modern missiles will replace existing products on duty. Strategic Missile Forces extend the life of R-36M2 missiles, for which purpose in the GRTs im. Makeeva is carrying out the corresponding development work. The GRC project will allow keeping the Voivode on duty until the advent of a modern replacement.

The Commander-in-Chief of the Strategic Missile Forces recalled the characteristic advantages of the new Sarmat missile. In terms of basic characteristics, it should not be inferior to the previous sample, but in other respects it is superior to it. A wider range of military equipment is also provided, from a number of existing warheads to promising hypersonic systems.

Sarmat missile deliveries will have to affect the general state of the Strategic Missile Forces weapons. So, in 2024, the share of modern designs is planned to be brought up to 100%. Old Soviet-made systems will be completely decommissioned, and only newer missiles will remain in service, including "Sarmat."

Plans for the future

According to well-known data, the technical design of the Sarmat complex has now been completed. Last year, a full throw test cycle was conducted. After this, preparation for flight tests began, which continues to this day. The timing of the first full launch has not yet been specified.

Last year, the Strategic Missile Forces command indicated that the first production Sarmatians would be deployed by the 62nd Missile Division. Now it continues to operate the aging R-36M2 missiles, but is already preparing to receive modern RS-28s. The command plans to put on duty the first "Sarmat" in 2021. Then, in a few years, all "Voivode" connections will be decommissioned with replacement.

Earlier, open sources mentioned the future rearmament of the 13th missile Orenburg Red Banner Division. Like the 62nd Missile Division, it is now armed with R-36M2 systems that need to be replaced. Arming new systems is expected in the early twenties.

Within a few years, probably by the second half of the twenties, two missile divisions would finally abandon the well-deserved but outdated Voevoda ICBMs. They will be replaced by modern RS-28 with higher characteristics, capable of providing a number of new capabilities to the Strategic Missile Forces.

However, before starting mass production and putting on duty, it is necessary to conduct flight tests and carry out fine-tuning of equipment. This will take some time, but so far there is no reason for a serious revision of the work schedule. Apparently, the 62nd Missile Division will indeed receive the Sarmatians in 2021.

Strength issues

The Russian Ministry of Defense has not yet announced its plans regarding the number of Sarmatians required. This led to the emergence of various forecasts and estimates. In addition, data allegedly from foreign intelligence is known.

So, in July, the American CNBC channel, citing the US intelligence community, spoke about the Strategic Missile Forces plans to receive at least 60 new ICBMs. At the same time, it was argued that Sarmat will be able to be brought to combat duty already in 2020 - up to the deadlines previously mentioned by officials.

Information from U.S. intelligence does not yet have official confirmation, but it looks quite believable. It is this number of missiles that is necessary to replace the existing R-36M2 in two divisions in the proportion of “1: 1”, and also, possibly, to create a small reserve.

According to open data, about three dozen silo-based ICBMs can now be deployed in the 13th and 62nd missile divisions. Thus, the use of existing facilities will replace almost 60 old Voevod with the same number of new Sarmatians. In addition, a certain number of missiles should go into arsenals to create a reserve for the future. However, estimates of foreign intelligence may differ from the real plans of the Russian Strategic Missile Forces.

Political factor

At the moment, the development of Russian strategic nuclear forces, including Strategic Rocket Forces, taking into account the limitations of the Treaty on the Reduction of Offensive Arms (START III). This document will be valid until February 2021 - unless Russia and the United States extend it or work out a new agreement. Further developments in the area of ​​strategic nuclear forces directly depend on the decisions of Moscow and Washington.

START III imposes restrictions on the number of nuclear weapons carriers (general and deployed), as well as on the number of warheads. The formation of strategic nuclear forces is carried out in a given framework. Taking advantage of this, countries are constantly forming and changing the configuration of their forces. The absence of restrictions on the IOS-III will give them the opportunity to uncontrolled build up arsenals.

It is also necessary to remember the third countries that are not part of the existing Russian-American agreements, but that have nuclear weapons. They also have to be considered a potential threat that should be considered when planning.

If START III is not extended or replaced, the first stage of deployment of the RS-28 ICBMs will be in a very difficult period. Our country will have to closely monitor the former partners in the agreement and respond to their actions. One of the answers to the growth of foreign strategic nuclear forces may be an increase in the number of own missiles on duty.

According to well-known data, Sarmat, being a heavy-class rocket, must show high performance. Stated "global" range of delivery of warheads. The warhead can carry at least a dozen combat guidance units of individual guidance. Also, the RS-28 will become the carrier of the Avangard hypersonic percussion apparatus. All this makes Sarmat a convenient and flexible tool to deter a potential adversary - both for the Strategic Missile Forces and within the framework of all strategic nuclear forces.

In the case of maintaining the offensive arms treaty, Sarmat will be entrusted with the task of updating the materiel, including with the growth of combat capabilities. In this context, all the special capabilities of the rocket will also be more than useful.

Waiting for new items

It is obvious that in a few years our strategic missile forces will receive completely new weapons with special capabilities that can significantly affect defense capability. However, to obtain such results, you need to carry out a lot of important work. So far, the state’s flight tests of the rocket remain the main item on the agenda. Only after that, “Sarmat” can be transferred to the troops and put on combat duty.

The process of developing and finalizing a new missile complex is taking place against the backdrop of a deteriorating international situation, breaking agreements and certain risks. All this requires improving the strategic nuclear forces and strategic missile forces in response to new challenges. One of the main answers of this kind will be the expected XNUMX% renewal of arms of the strategic missile forces, and the new Sarmat is its most important component.

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[Vladimir61]

The process of developing and finalizing a new missile complex is taking place against the backdrop of a deteriorating international situation, breaking agreements and certain risks. All this requires improving the strategic nuclear forces and strategic missile forces in response to new challenges.

Yeah! If the chief of the General Staff expressly declares that NATO is preparing for a major war, then it is necessary to rearm no matter what, and as quickly as possible.
Two world wars did not teach the West anything. It is hard to imagine that the authorities of the countries of Europe do not understand that they certainly will not survive the third world war - in orderly rows to death to the accompaniment of the United States.

[Vladimir_2U]

Syria, I hope, has sobered many in the "West". So, under the cover of strategic nuclear forces, you don't have to fuss too much.

Quote: Vladimir61

If the Chief of General Staff expressly declares NATO’s preparations for a major war

Something specifically in this article is not a word about the war.

Quote: Vladimir61

The process of developing and finalizing a new missile complex is taking place against the backdrop of a deteriorating international situation, breaking agreements and certain risks. All this requires improving the strategic nuclear forces and strategic missile forces in response to new challenges.

These are the words of the author of the article, but not the chief of the General Staff.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

These are the words of the author of the article, but not the chief of the General Staff.

I did not invent it! It went officially on the news.
PS Just now, a corresponding article has appeared on VO.

[Vladimir_2U]

Yes indeed. Thanks for clarifying the comment.

[Den717]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Yes indeed. Thanks for clarifying the comment.

“In the Baltic countries and Poland, the waters of the Black and Baltic Seas, military activity is increasing, the intensity of military exercises of the bloc is increasing. Their scenarios indicate NATO's targeted preparation for the use of its troops in a large-scale military conflict, "he (Gerasimov) said ...."
In fact, all the armies of the world are preparing for conflicts of varying intensity. The combat training of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is also carried out to bring and maintain the readiness of troops to participate in a war / conflict of any scale. NATO today primarily plays the role of removing extraneous production structures in the development of the budgets of the member countries of the bloc. Their teachings primarily aim at the psychological treatment of the population (escalating psychosis from military danger) in order to not resist the authorities in increasing contributions to the military budget. Of course, according to the parameters of the armed forces, we cannot be obviously weaker so as not to give rise to temptation. The speech of our chief of the General Staff is the traditional reaction of officials to the actions of the enemy side. Something like a protest by the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry on Putin's visit to Crimea.

[Arkon]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Syria, I hope, has sobered many in the "West".

Well, if only part of the military. Neither politicians nor the "shadow government" will stop this. There are people completely without a head. Rather, their motives are incomprehensible to the average person and look like madness. So, I suggest not to flatter yourself.

[ares1988]

Do you personally survive TMV?)

[Monar]

Weird question. Tell me, and those who defended their homeland (it doesn’t matter either the country or nationality) thought the same in the first place?

[ares1988]

And this is not the question. It’s different: usually talking about how, in the case of TMV, on the other side of the trench, all in orderly rows will go to the other world - for some reason it’s not customary to remember that the same thing will happen on this side of the trench. Here you are, for some reason, adding funny pictures with slender rows, is limited to half-truth. And Gerasimov concluded that NATO was preparing for a large-scale conflict on the basis of the intensity and scale of their exercises. But, excuse me, we have complete order with this, too; are they not alone, it turns out, they are preparing, and do not remember the experience of the past?

[Monar]

Of course. And we will have the same harmonious ranks. Is someone arguing?
But here is something I have not heard about the concept of a preemptive strike by the nuclear nucleon. From the word in general.

[ares1988]

Well, firstly, the concept may not be due to the lack of an appropriate tool. In the sense that in the USA, strategic nuclear forces are traditionally more focused on delivering a counter-force strike (although they can, of course, be applied simply to cities). In our country, the BBQ of the BB is considered lower (I don’t know how it really is there). If this is so, then it is logical that in the absence of the ability to confidently increase the enemy’s silos - it makes no sense to consider concepts based on this possibility. Secondly, this is about the preemptive strike by nuclear nucleon. Our doctrine implies the possibility of using nuclear weapons in response to aggression against the Russian Federation (or allies) without the use of nuclear weapons. Yes, there are a number of conditions. But as a fact: we can very well use nuclear weapons first, i.e. preventively.

[Monar]

In the sense that in the USA, strategic nuclear forces are traditionally more focused on delivering a counter-force strike.

Will you argue with American generals? Well, the first come across -
"The United States should not abandon its policy of delivering a preemptive nuclear strike," said General Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the US Armed Forces, at a hearing in the US Senate.
Read more: https://eadaily.com/en/news/2019/03/15/danford-ssha-nelzya-otkazyvatsya-ot-prava-na-preventivnyy-yadernyy-udar
It can be clarified, but where is something similar written in the strategy of the Russian Federation?

[ares1988]

And you can reference their regulatory documents, which says: under what conditions can this preventive strike be inflicted? And then in the parliament and we have inadequate comrades who offer, for example, to drop YaB on Istanbul. Regarding our doctrine:
The Russian Federation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it and (or) its allies, as well as in the event of aggression against the Russian Federation with the use of conventional weapons, when the very existence of the state is threatened

https://ria.ru/20141226/1040317907.html

[opus]

Quote: ares1988

In the sense that in the USA, strategic nuclear forces are traditionally more focused on delivering a counter-force strike (although they can, of course, be applied simply to cities).

Are you kidding me?
US strategic nuclear forces are traditionally "sharpened" for a preventive, preemptive strike

In the military policy of the United States, the possibility of using nuclear weapons first, as the American nuclear doctrine of 2010 reads, "for a narrow set of scenarios" has also always been allowed.

totality
Operation dropshot
Plans for Broiler, Troyan, Bushwecker, Crankshaft, (joint fruit of the USA, Great Britain and Canada) - Houghmun, Fleetwood, Cogwill.


+ American NATO Allies - UK and France - always doctrinally admitted first use of nuclear weapons

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[ares1988]

Well, if you read the same drop-shot, then the idea that the bloodthirsty Anglo-Saxons have been planning to attack us for centuries will not become so obvious. It turns out that the plan proceeds from the fact that by 1957 NATO will be at war with the socialist camp. It is not specified: who attacked first, but it points to the desire of the communist leaders to expand in Europe, and the need to defend this very Europe, and at the same time Turkey and Japan. The usual plan in case "if tomorrow is war". Do you want to say that the Union did not engage in military planning?

[opus]

Quote: ares1988

that the bloodthirsty Anglo-Saxons for centuries only plan to attack us

who talked about centuries?

Quote: ares1988

It is not specified: who attacked first, however, the desire of the communist leaders to expand in Europe, and the need to defend this very Europe, and at the same time Turkey and Japan, are indicated.

not a single plan of a preventive surprise attack of the USSR on the USA, NATO and other homosexuals-NO, was not and not FIND.
And you won’t find it when the archives are declassified in 2045, if you live, it's over.
Conclusion: this question was not discussed either in the Central Committee, or in the Council of Ministers, or in the General Staff.

Quote: ares1988

Do you want to say that the Union did not deal with military planning?

were engaged. But if you do not read the nonsense of Suvorov-Rezun- it’s only defense (engaged) ... after 1938 (from 1917), of course. Before: there were all sorts of internationals and "plans"

[ccsr]

Quote: opus

Conclusion: this question was not discussed either in the Central Committee, or in the Council of Ministers, or in the General Staff.

There is no need to build illusions - this question was discussed, at least at the General Staff precisely, because military experts are well aware that if the preparation for a nuclear strike on our territory is revealed, then it does not make sense to wait for the reaction of the SPRN systems, but it’s better to strike yourself though would be the duty forces of the strategic nuclear forces. Then we will at least have a chance to survive, thanks to the size of our territory.
Here is what Burlakov stated in an interview:

So prepared for the war in the early 1980s? - Not just prepared, but were ready! Marshal Ogarkov created four strategic directions for leading the offensive war. The western one was in the Polish Legnica, and then in Smolensk, the south-western one was in Chisinau, the southern one in Baku, the Far Eastern, Chinese in Ulan-Ude. Hungary (Southern Group) was in one direction with the Kiev and Odessa districts. We had to smash the south of Europe, including Italy. The General Staff has these plans. These samples may once be needed, everything is thought out there, although it needs to be clarified.
- Was the use of nuclear weapons planned? - Of course.
“Would we be the first to hit?” - Of course.
- Foreign Minister Gromyko repeated that the USSR would not be the first to use nuclear weapons. - He said one thing, but the military had other thoughts. We have to answer for the war.
- Isn't the political leadership responsible for this? - The political leadership - Gorbachev and others - betrayed the Union. They were bought in America.

"Kommersant-Vlast", No. 12, 2005

[NF68]

Quote: Vladimir61

It is hard to imagine that the authorities of the countries of Europe do not understand that they certainly will not survive the third world war - in orderly rows to death to the accompaniment of the United States.

Understand that they all understand, but only really little depends on them.

[rocket757]

This is a SHOCK SPEAR .... in our case, this is definitely a SHIELD!
As it is not ... difficult, you have to go on such an unsafe path.

[Operator]

60 units will not be enough.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Operator

60 units will not be enough.

60 units is 600 BB of individual guidance ...
In my opinion, even enough for the States ...
Enough for the Europeans and the DSBB! But what to do with CanadaOh ??? (joke!)

[Operator]

For Canada, the RS-26 in Anadyr is enough.

[Vladislav Demchenko]

In fact, some Sarmatians will have controlled warheads and orbital warheads, and it is unlikely that there will even be more than 300 warheads.

[Dmitry Gundorov]

Yeah, yeah, recently they just passed the throw tests, and here it is planned for 21 years that he will already be on combat duty.
Hard to believe

[ccsr]

Author:
Ryabov Kirill

One of the main answers of this kind will be the expected XNUMX% renewal of arms of the strategic missile forces,

The Strategic Missile Forces is our everything, which means that we should spare no money on the modernization and development of new weapons, according to the precepts of Peter the Great.
By the way, the development of such expensive complexes that can be created only by 2-3 countries of the world, and explains to our whiners where the huge revenues from the sale of gas and oil go.

[Essex62]

Yah? I suspect that these incomes are deposited in the pockets of a bargain tribe. The USSR spent on defense not comparable anymore, but kept the social rate and prices on the basis of people's lives at the highest and minimum, respectively, levels.

[ccsr]

Quote: Essex62

Yah? I suspect that these incomes are deposited in the pockets of a bargain tribe.

Suspect your health, especially since now you can get acquainted with the declarations.

Quote: Essex62

The USSR spent on defense is not comparable more but social

But you do not live in the USSR, but in capitalist Russia, so that your comparisons do not dance - can it be time to become realistic?

[Essex62]

This is what and whose thief income you can get acquainted with? In childhood, I also loved fairy tales. I do not care about your realism, I do not live in this country, I survive. And the bourgeois survive me, from the light.
And all very much even the comparison "dances". It's not evening yet and not everyone, like you, has found a warm niche at the computer. Young people also do not have fun, even in fat Moscow. So let's see.

[ccsr]

Quote: Essex62

This is what and whose thief income you can get acquainted with? In childhood, I also loved fairy tales.

So you believed in them in 1991, when the CPSU and the Soviet regime did not support it, and wanted real capitalism with all its benefits. So as they say - there is no turning back, the ruble is in, the way out is two. I don’t understand what you hope for - that capitalism will be humanistic to you? Do not hope, so take your robbery as retribution for your decisions in 1991 - then you can guess what our people lost then.

Quote: Essex62

I don't care about your realism

So real life spits on you too - that's why you survive.

Quote: Essex62

. It’s not evening yet and not everyone, like you, has found a warm niche at the computer.

I also believe that it is not yet evening, I hope that those who come to replace me and you will be more literate and will not repeat the stupidity that you or your parents did in 1991.

Quote: Essex62

Young people also do not live happily, even in fat Moscow. So let's see.

You don’t even understand that it’s not even the fat life of some regions, but that with the rejection of socialism, we excluded a number of social lifts that allowed people from all walks of life to become major leaders, academicians, engineers and scientists, which means our society will degrade. This is the main danger to our civilization, so at least first understand this before you see the reason in the "fat piece" of some part of the youth.

[Essex62]

In the first paragraph, this is not about me. Of those not many who understood what would be and tried to stop. Even now, I am ready to pay you for paraphrasing you. Everything else that you wrote, a little water, verbiage. Only a ban on enrichment creates a truly socially fair society. Read my comments on the site. I think I justified my position clearly. I think it is pointless to enter into the next discussion. A person poisoned by selfish ideology with words cannot explain anything.

[ccsr]

Quote: Essex62

Everything else that you wrote, a little water, verbiage.

Well, well - whoever needs it, he already understood everything.

Quote: Essex62

Only a ban on enrichment creates a real socially fair society

Since when has Russian capitalism promised you to make such a ban? In which country is this implemented - can you name it?

Quote: Essex62

A person poisoned by selfish ideology with words cannot explain anything.

Realism is primarily inherent in sensible people, and not those who run around the forums and shout how bad it is. I don’t think that from your moans at least something will change in the country, but you can continue to do this, since you want to look like a sufferer for people's happiness.

[Essex62]

I feel good. Many others are not very, in your wild gangster, because you see his bandits in the 90s set, Russian capitalism. A purebred society is obscene evil; the time will come when they will uproot it with all the consequences.

[ccsr]

Quote: Essex62

Many others are not very, in your wild gangster

Why did you decide that he is mine, if I just see his depravity for our society, and would like people to still believe our left parties, and not vote for the party of oligarchs.

Quote: Essex62

the time will come to uproot him with all the consequences.

Are you sure the current generation is capable of this? I do not think that it will be so, and there is no need to "root out" anything, we have already gorged on revolutions in the twentieth century, it's time to think with our heads how to change the system without upheavals.

Quote: Essex62

I feel good

That's how many people thought in the Russian Empire on the eve of the great upheavals, and then washed themselves with blood. Do you dream to repeat it?

[Essex62]

Any generation is capable, under certain conditions. The present, even more so than the beginning of the 20th century. He does not have at the genetic level reverence and fear of a retinal power. It is enough to go through the network, read. And almost a century of socialism and its living bearers are still worth a lot.
Unfortunately, you can break your head, but you won’t figure out how to eliminate the power of the bargain without a fight. This was not where or when in the history of mankind. No where and no when. Not a viable, eternal dream of the Russian intigency, so that everything could happen and no stress. In RI, everything was as it should. The elimination of burials is a lot of blood, because they rested.

[ccsr]

Quote: Essex62

The present, even more so than the beginning of the 20th century.

Laugh, thank you.

Quote: Essex62

Unfortunately, you can break your head, but you won’t figure out how to eliminate the power of the bargain without a fight.

Have you tried to at least convince 90% of the population to come to the polls to vote for the Communist Party to begin with? Have you learned anything from the referendum in Crimea on joining Russia?

[Karen]

Quote: ccsr

Have you tried to at least convince 90% of the population to come to the polls to vote for the Communist Party to begin with? Have you learned anything from the referendum in Crimea on joining Russia?

We already went through this in Armenia ... In 96, after the presidential elections, the old one congratulated the candidate who won by the votes cast, but then the ministers - Defense and Internal Affairs - ordered the incumbent president not to rock the boat, and Vazgen Sargsyan announced on TV: “Even if Vazgen Manukyan received 100% of the votes - he will never be president! "

[Essex62]

With a nail hammered into the subconscious, "for the faith, the Tsar and the Fatherland" was dissolved, leaving one, the most important concept. But centuries, it was written down to the subcortex. God forbid any shocks, that no smartphone, no beer, no wheelbarrows, but only Kalash and trench lice for many years. And all sorts of bergs will skim the cream .... These egoists, what the current baryzhy system of life made them, quickly figure out that they were cheated. And you won't be laughing. It was the same with the mass of soldiers and peasants that time, so it will not be avoided this time. A push is only needed, a catalyst. That is why the praetorians (national guards) and the private guard of the oligarchs.
They already voted for zu, he turned on the back one. These are not communists, this is a seed squeeze. To drag the huckster as president from the Communist Party ... Warm niche and feeder. In no way do they differ from the same other types of grease. There is no official Communist Party in the country now and the bourgeoisie will not allow the creation.

[ccsr]

Quote: Essex62

They already voted for zu, he turned on the back one. These are not communists, this is a seed squeeze.

Then there is no leftist mood in the country, since there is still no worthy leader who would stand at the head of these masses. And who then will the people follow - for Zhirinovsky or what?

Quote: Essex62

These egoists, what the current baryzhy system of life has made them, quickly guess that they were fooled.

Something the process dragged on - soon thirty years later it will be banned as the CPSU, and people still do not guess that it was this party that defended their interests.

Quote: Essex62

The push is only needed, the catalyst.

And who will give this impetus if people do not believe even the current communists? I think you are too much of an "optimist" if you hope so.

Quote: Essex62

To drag a huckster as president from the Communist Party ...

And the fact that you are controlled by millionaires, apparently does not contradict your beliefs?
What matters to you, whom the Communist Party put forward is their internal problems, let them figure it out themselves and not listen to those who are not members of the party. Grudinin doesn’t care for me personally, because he did at least something for those who work for him, and he didn’t milk the budget, so he’s not so bad compared to those who are now in power at the expense of public property.

[Essex62]

With a nail hammered into the subconscious, "for the faith, the Tsar and the Fatherland" was dissolved, leaving one, the most important concept. But centuries, it was written down to the subcortex. God forbid any shocks, that no smartphone, no beer, no wheelbarrows, but only Kalash and trench lice for many years. And all sorts of bergs will skim the cream .... These egoists, what the current baryzhy system of life made them, quickly figure out that they were cheated. And you won't be laughing. It was the same with the mass of soldiers and peasants that time, so it will not be avoided this time. A push is only needed, a catalyst. That is why the praetorians (national guards) and the private guard of the oligarchs.
They already voted for zu, he turned on the back one. These are not communists, this is a seed squeeze. To drag the huckster as president from the Communist Party ... Warm niche and feeder. In no way do they differ from the same other types of grease. There is no official Communist Party in the country now and the bourgeoisie will not allow the creation.

[Old26]

Quote: Operator

60 units will not be enough.

Of course not enough. I think that more than 46 units will not be deployed at all. The mines from "Voevod" are no longer available. How many of them ("Sarmatov" will be equipped with "Vanguards" is also a question.

[voyaka uh]

From the article:
"In terms of its main characteristics, it should not be inferior to the previous model, and in other ways, it should surpass it."
A realistic view of the new rocket. It is placed in the same mines as the Voivode, and has the same dimensions.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: voyaka uh

It is placed in the same mines as the Voivode, and has the same dimensions.

Are you trying to create doubts in the "restless souls" about the product's performance characteristics ??? This is in vain ... Jesuitism is not good!
Yes, and with the sizes you got excited ... But the weight and overall characteristics of avionics became completely different, the materials, again composite, are modern, which allowed to increase the amount of fuel and the mass of abandoned combat equipment ... And this combat equipment is already different, with GZ including products ... Yes, and fuel, for sure, is another, more energy-intensive ...
Therefore - "if you please, hesitate: everything will be done in the best possible way", as they said in Odessa! And who these "gifts" are intended for are well aware of this ... And (do not believe it!) They are afraid ... in full size ...
Yeah

[Old26]

Quote: voyaka uh

A realistic view of the new rocket. It is placed in the same mines as the Voivode, and has the same dimensions.

Is not a fact. Features may vary. If we take as a basis the rockets of the R-36M family of all 6 modifications, then the longest from the shortest one differs by a value of 90 itself. And on average, it’s 30 centimeters. The question is different. we ABSOLUTELY NOTHING we do not know about the real characteristics of the "Sarmat". What they are broadcasting to us is, I beg your pardon, a shaking of air. Each analyst gives his own interpretation. And the apo range, and in the starting and throwing. And at the same time, everyone "looks back" at the characteristics of the "Voevoda"
And according to individual insider statements, "Sarmat" will still differ from "Voevoda" in starting and thrown weight towards a decrease in these masses, and in terms of its energy, acceleration characteristics, the characteristics of "Sarmat" will be better than those of "Voevoda". But this will become clear only after the first test launches. When real missiles will be tested, and not their throw models.

We will see. Will they be able to conduct a test launch of "Sarmat" in the remaining 2 weeks, or will its tests be shifted to the right again ...

[Mityay65]

The question of the need for such a powerful and extremely vulnerable first strike complex is still open. It seems that now it’s 83 and on my way to school I wonder if the school will be destroyed if the BG gets into a neighboring factory.
Like the distinguished Mr. Solomonov, I believe that this complex is not needed. He is redundant. Parallel spending of funds for goals that have already been achieved by smaller funds.
PS The article is completely bespontovy, no numbers or dates. Info slag. But such an interesting topic is Doomsday Weapon!

[vadimtt]

Extremely vulnerable complex? Are you talking about silos designed for direct hit of a specialized nuclear charge with subsequent self-digging and leveling? Plus, covered with something like a tank KAZ, only capable of shredding warheads on patches starting from a height of 6 km? Well, you obviously got excited about vulnerability

[Mityay65]

Quote: vadimtt

Are you talking about silos designed for direct hit of a specialized nuclear charge with subsequent self-digging and leveling?

Yes, that’s about it. The conclusion about the vulnerability of stationary silos was made by strategists at the end of the 80s. Nothing new.

Quote: vadimtt

covered with something like a tank KAZ, only capable of shredding warheads on patches starting from a height of 6 km?

There are many ideas about an object ABM system, including giant humanoid robots in tungsten armor with laser drafts.
But nothing goes beyond assumptions and rumors.

Quote: vadimtt

Well, you obviously got excited about vulnerability

Mobile systems currently in service are less vulnerable.

[ccsr]

Quote: Mityai65

. The conclusion about the vulnerability of stationary silos was made by strategists at the end of the 80s. Nothing new.

There was no such conclusion, you are clearly not in the subject. It was concluded that we will have time to launch all the missiles until they are hit, if the flight time is at least 10 minutes. But even then, if we all oversleep, even to the extent that strategic intelligence does not reveal preparations for a nuclear strike by our opponents.

Quote: Mityai65

There are a lot of object missile defense ideas,

There may be many ideas, but everything depends on the cost and the inability to avoid catastrophic losses during a massive impact. So at the current level of missile defense systems, we, the Americans, are not able to protect ourselves even from the number of nuclear warheads that will cause unacceptable damage.

[Old26]

Quote: Mityai65

The question of the need for such a powerful and extremely vulnerable first strike complex is still open.

The question is really open and most likely in the weapon system such a complex is needed, but in much smaller quantities than the same R-36M missiles were deployed. But they were stamped, after all, in the region of half a thousand pieces. So much is not necessary. But to have 2-3 dozens - I think that is quite normal

[Mityay65]

Quote: Old26

have 2-3 dozens - I think that is quite normal

Greetings, Vladimir.
So I think these 2-3 dozen will really give a completely justifiable reason for the adversary to suspect the preparation of the first strike of the Russian Federation. And take countermeasures.
Well, unless of course this is a trump ace before negotiations on the extension of START-3 ...

[Essex62]

The sense of such an agreement is zero. To control the implementation of it, mattresses, there will not be any possibility. They leave our Olympic athletes without a flag, squeeze the diplomatic property with impunity, etc. What are the aces? Yes, the presence of the Russian Federation the ability to drive the Masons to live in bunkers, the rest of their life only stops the latter from an irresistible desire to sit on our resources as a complete host. And only therefore it is necessary to increase and modernize nuclear weapons.

[Essex62]

The sense of such an agreement is zero. To control the implementation of it, mattresses, there will not be any possibility. They leave our Olympic athletes without a flag, squeeze the diplomatic property with impunity, etc. What are the aces? Yes, the presence of the Russian Federation the ability to drive the Masons to live in bunkers, the rest of their life only stops the latter from an irresistible desire to sit on our resources as a complete host. And only therefore it is necessary to increase and modernize nuclear weapons.

[Potato]

And you minus. You deserve it!

Because back in the 80s, the number of these missiles necessary for a guaranteed retaliatory massive nuclear strike was calculated even in the case of the first strike of our enemy and his satellites. From 20-30 shpu, how many will remain combat ready after the first strike of the enemy? How many real return launches can be completed? How many of them will go abnormally or will be intercepted about the enemy? How many strategic goals (cities, headquarters, bases) are there for these missiles. Will 30 missiles be enough to guarantee their destruction? For pc36 in the 80s and a hundred missiles were missing! And now even more so.

[ccsr]

Quote: Potato

Will 30 missiles be enough to guarantee their destruction?

Judging by their fears of Kim, we are talking about the unacceptability for the United States of even units of nuclear weapons (from 5 to 10), which he can now deliver to neither their continent, according to media information:

On February 12, 2013, the US Geological Survey recorded tremors with a magnitude of 4,9, the epicenter of which was in the area of ​​the North Korean nuclear test site. The UN Nuclear Monitoring Agency has declared an “unusual seismic phenomenon” with “explosion characteristics” [31]. On the same day, the Central Telegraph Agency of Korea officially announced a successful nuclear test [32]. Given that December 12, 2012 North Korea for the first time put into orbit an artificial satellite “Gwangmyonson-3,” it caused a new crisis.

[Mityay65]

Quote: Potato

The 80s calculated the number of these missiles necessary for a guaranteed retaliatory massive nuclear strike even in the event of a first strike by our enemy and his satellites.

So the fact is that Sarmat is the weapon of the first blow. Sarmat will not be able to perform the functions of a weapon of retaliation, because will most likely be destroyed. Sarmat can take part in a "retaliatory" strike, but one must understand that, in general, modern strategists and analysts doubt the possibility of such a strike. For a variety of reasons.
And the rocket is very powerful. Therefore, it will attract the means of observing the enemy.
In my opinion, the concept of such a rocket is outdated, we have not the time of the XB.

[knn54]

"We will deliver the" cargo "anywhere in the world."

[Old26]

Quote: Essex62

The sense of such an agreement is zero. To control the implementation of it, mattresses, there will not be any possibility.

That is, you do not care if 1500 charges or 7500 are against you? And about the control. At 19 inspections per year is not enough for you? And here the Olympics are not at all the case ...

Quote: Potato

And you minus. You deserve it!

Because back in the 80s, the number of these missiles necessary for a guaranteed retaliatory massive nuclear strike was calculated even in the case of the first strike of our enemy and his satellites. From 20-30 shpu, how many will remain combat ready after the first strike of the enemy? How many real return launches can be completed? How many of them will go abnormally or will be intercepted about the enemy? How many strategic goals (cities, headquarters, bases) are there for these missiles. Will 30 missiles be enough to guarantee their destruction? For pc36 in the 80s and a hundred missiles were missing! And now even more so.

What they believed in the 80s and what they think now are completely different calculations. In the 80s, we had about 30 strategic warheads, now 000. Accordingly, the number of carriers will be adjusted downward.
About the interception. This thing in itself and even now, intercepting is problematic. It all depends on the quantity. Intercepting 1-2 missiles is, in principle, possible. And to intercept, for example, 2-3 dozens, especially missiles with homing missiles, are impossible at the current level of development of missile defense systems.
The number of goals can, in principle, be calculated. Very roughly, but nonetheless. And after all, not only heavy missiles will hit the enemy’s targets.
And further. Rockets PC-36 NEVER EXISTED, try to be more precise in the notation

[ccsr]

Quote: Old26

In the 80s, we had about 30 strategic warheads,

Well, you grabbed it over the edge - there were about 6-7 thousand of them. There were also tactical and operational nuclear charges, so the total could have been, but I think it was actually even less.

[Old26]

Quote: vadimtt

Extremely vulnerable complex? Are you talking about silos designed for direct hit of a specialized nuclear charge with subsequent self-digging and leveling? Plus, covered with something like a tank KAZ, only capable of shredding warheads on patches starting from a height of 6 km? Well, you obviously got excited about vulnerability

Well, in fact, Dmitry is not so wrong. The vulnerability of silos is still higher than that of the PGRK. The second still needs to be "found" in the vastness of Russia, and not easy to find. And strike. But as long as the missile (even a ballistic one) is flying, the launcher will be able to leave a sufficient distance.
Moreover, one should not think that silos are a panacea and silos cannot be destroyed. In principle, the calculations of the same Americans come down to the fact that 2 BB is enough to defeat the mine, which will make it impossible to launch.
As for the KAZ ... Yes, such a system was tested at one time, then as far as we know, it was not put into service. And again, how effective it will be is also unknown. And what to do if the warhead explodes at an altitude not of 5-6 km, where it can be, as you say, "cut into pieces," but for example at an altitude of 6,5 km.
Issues of defeating the silo protective device - an interesting question and existing materials show that, in principle, the shaft cover can be hit by 2 HE explosive charges of 2 tons. Problem? Yes, of course, but nonetheless this is possible.
Therefore, the issue of vulnerability is a separate issue. Although I repeat, the fame of the coordinates of silos makes them more vulnerable than the vulnerability of mobile systems

[Old26]

Quote: ccsr

Quote: Old26

In the 80s, we had about 30 strategic warheads,

Well, you grabbed it over the edge - there were about 6-7 thousand of them. There were also tactical and operational nuclear charges, so the total could have been, but I think it was actually even less.

You're right. Almost 30 thousand are all. And strategists - less than 9000 EMNIP

[Essex62]

Quote: Old26

Quote: Essex62 The sense of such a contract is zero. To control the implementation of it, mattresses, there will not be any possibility. That is, you do not care if 1500 charges or 7500 are against you? And about the control. At 19 inspections per year is not enough for you? And here the Olympics are not at all the case ...

Do you personally participate in these inspections, guarantee the accuracy of the data provided? Or just believe? Me not. There are too many factors that deny the ability to butt and control mattresses on equal terms. Only the USSR could do it. To express concern is the maximum of the bourgeois, dependent power of the Russian Federation. And Olympics, under a white capitulant rag, is one of the indicators.
One charge for my eyes is enough for me, and, in principle, yes, it doesn’t matter. None of the missile defense systems can stop the destruction of the population, the adversary has the advantage, he will be the first to start. Only Masonic families will survive in the bunkers on the atolls, only because they will climb in there beforehand, having given the command to attack. Not one berg can be saved. Burned, with all the loot stolen, along with everyone.

[Zementbomber]

According to open data, now in the 13th and 62nd missile divisions, about three dozen silo-based ICBMs can be deployed. Thus, the use of the existing facilities will make it possible to replace almost 60 old Voevods with the same number of new Sarmats.

Why lie so stupidly? Easy to check. 46 of them in total.

[Zementbomber]

The declared "global" range for the delivery of warheads.

Lies. Nothing is official not It was declared with numbers in any case. The global range of destruction is from 23000 km practical. range minimum.