An emergency is reported with the Tu-22M3 missile carrier in the Astrakhan region

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An emergency situation with a long-range bomber in the Astrakhan region is reported. We are talking about the Tu-22M3 aircraft, which performed a planned flight.

According to the latest information, during the flight, the missile carrier failed the engine. The crew took the combat vehicle away from the village and decided to land a long-range bomber on the ground. The Ministry of Defense at the moment confirms information that the plane managed to land on one of the fields in the Astrakhan region.



It is emphasized that the Tu-22M3 flew without ammunition. Pilots after completing an airplane landing on the ground left the cockpit on their own. According to some reports, they do not need medical assistance. Pilots delivered to the air base.

According to unconfirmed reports, the plane made a flight from Shaikovka air base (near Kaluga) to Akhtubinsk.

A special group is being formed to find out the cause of the failure of the engine of the VKS RF supersonic missile carrier. A separate question: why regular flight was not possible when one engine failed? In particular, the possibility of using an auxiliary power plant is being discussed.
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    1. -20
      December 17 2019
      Now the bomber has been smashed. Most likely the quality of spare parts and repairs. An-12 and An-26, which are now in the Air Force - 50 and 35 years old. In the regiments of long-range aviation, too, far from new cars.
      1. -8
        December 17 2019
        Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Now the bomber has been smashed.

        What else did you steal? angry
        1. 0
          December 17 2019
          They broke it, did not break it, or put it under the door, here the main thing is to memeknut first, everything was gone.
          1. 0
            December 17 2019
            Damn, at the beginning of the year in the north with the Tu-22M3 the trouble was near Murmansk,

            now in the south. Well, at least the crew is alive all this time ...
        2. +19
          December 17 2019
          For decades, they killed the Kazan Aviation Plant. Gorbunova is a branch of PJSC Tupolev. They killed the production of engines for the Tu-22M3 and Tu-160. Now we have what we have.
          1. +12
            December 17 2019
            Ludwigovich, it would be good to restore socialism with the state property of all industry.
            But how to do that?
            Are there any developments in this matter?
            Action plan. Or is it fashionable to say today - is there a roadmap?

            And the fact that all the nineties destroyed the country is a fact.
            1. +7
              December 17 2019
              So we have long been state property in the industry and economy, where do not spit the national treasure in the hands of "effective" managers appointed by the state
              https://tass.ru/ekonomika/6394390
              As the FAS notes, before the 1998 crisis, the share of the state in the Russian economy was estimated at about 25%, in 2008 - already at 40-45%, by 2013 it exceeded 50%. "In 2017, according to many expert estimates, it may already exceed 60-70%. It should be noted that in 2018 the situation has not changed significantly," the antimonopoly department notes.
          2. +15
            December 17 2019
            The main thing is that the crew would not be guilty of the accident and not forced to pay the cost of repairs.
            1. +7
              December 17 2019
              If they prove that it was possible to continue flying on one engine, then they can do the extreme, although I doubt it. Moreover, the plane flew without combat load, almost empty. One thing is unclear how the auxiliary power unit (APU) could help to stay in the air. It works exclusively on the ship's on-board systems and does not create traction.
            2. 0
              December 17 2019
              I missed something: when did pilots of the Russian Aerospace Forces begin to receive salaries of six to seven zeros? Do you know the cost of repairs? Or are you the chairman of the commission to investigate this AIS? For reference: the cost of overhauling only one NK-25 engine is an eight-digit number!
          3. +1
            December 17 2019
            Where did the engine production kill ???
            1. +4
              December 17 2019
              Quote: Local from the Volga
              Where did the engine production kill ???

              in the head of patients in a mental hospital !!! request request wassat wassat wassat
          4. +3
            December 18 2019
            Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
            They killed the production of engines for the Tu-22M3 and Tu-160. Now we have what we have.

            Heard the phrase: "Engine failure" and away we go ... What failures can be, and for what reason ???
            Probably for you this is secondary, the main thing is "They killed the production of engines", but what if the reason for the refusal is in the fuel? Or a foreign object hit? What then tell me? Did they kill the refinery, breed the birds?
          5. +3
            December 18 2019
            I want to ask why you drive fakes?
            Is this an order of liberoids?
            We look here :: https://aviation21.ru/do-konca-goda-v-samare-izgotovyat-chetyre-dvigatelya-nk-32-02/ This is infa from 18.10.18/XNUMX/XNUMX :: during this time Samara "Kuznetsov" got up?

            [/ quote] “This year, the first contract for the supply of four new NK-32-02 engines will be completed, contracts for the supply of another 22 cars have been concluded,” said the general director of UEC.

            “We have plans for aircraft and industrial gas turbine engines to bring the number of manufactured and repaired products to 200 units per year in 2025,” A. Artyukhov added. [Quote]


            Please do not raise the spirit of our enemies ...
            1. +4
              December 18 2019
              After the Tu-22M3, modifications of the Tu-22M4 and Tu-22M5 were to appear. The Tupolev Design Bureau and its Kazan branch had very serious achievements. They began to be implemented in the mid-80s - the program was called "Adaptation". The plane was to receive new avionics, sighting system, engines (NK-32 - the same as on the Tu-160). In addition to engines, the aircraft was supposed to have new avionics, thanks to which the crew was reduced from four to two people. Even the flying laboratory was made by the Tu-22M4 - "small Tu-160" - it was shown at MAKS-92. But there was no funding, and the program was cut. In the "good" times, they wanted to cut the "small Tu-160", but the military gave the command "not to touch". Production of the Tu-22M3 was stopped in 1993 (at the same time as the Tu-160), presumably at the convincing request of the Americans. The extreme new car was rolled out of the final assembly shop in 1997 after long ordeals. The production of the Soviet turbojet engines NK-32 installed on the Tu-160 "White Swan" was discontinued after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Relatively recently, it was decided to resume their production, but in a modernized version (NK-32-02).
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        1. +13
          December 17 2019
          If nobody has honesty in Russia, does this mean that you are also a dishonorable person? Or are you not a Russian citizen, and therefore allow yourself such statements?
          1. +9
            December 17 2019
            Just do not need honesty.

            highly likely
          2. -13
            December 17 2019
            I admit, I’m deceiving someone constantly for the sake of my personal happiness. But it is not necessary at the same time that others suffer. But in war, a lie sometimes turns into a military trick, and it seems that it is no longer a lie at all.
            1. +3
              December 17 2019
              a bondman believes that he is at war and uses military trick? So it’s not war, it seems, he’s just lying. Although there is one territory adjacent to Russia where some individuals believe that they have been at war with Russia since 2014. Clinical .....
              1. -2
                December 17 2019
                After all, a war is not necessary when bombs fall on your head. A man was born, and the other immediately announces to him that he must work part of his time for another. And if the first does not agree, then the whole war, if the peace in captivity agreed. Everyone chooses for himself. What do you call it?
            2. +2
              December 17 2019
              It is only you who think that no one is suffering, there can be no meridians in deceit, you either steal or not, if you steal, which seems to be true, then do not nod to managers. You need to start with yourself, otherwise it turns out you crap, and the neighbor is to blame, he was your boss ...
              1. -4
                December 17 2019
                And here is the theft, a simple example: Who went to the bathhouse with friends, one of them is not married and calls "girls", the husband will tell his wife about this later? And will he act truthfully?
      3. 0
        December 17 2019
        Do not pay attention, colleague, apparently the MINUSERS have a short memory and they already forgot about the sequence: float, submarine, submarine, helicopter ...
        1. +8
          December 17 2019
          do not pay attention, colleague

          Are you a liar too, with a crusader?
          Then comes the KNOWN PARADOX: laughing wassat belay
          LIAR STATEMENTS - HERE ALL LIARS
        2. +4
          December 17 2019
          Red-skinned, you still add to your list the daily death of thousands of people across the country.

          What a universal injustice! And everyone is to blame, except you.

          And the government does not do anything.

          Airplanes and helicopters are falling. Ships and boats are drowning. Buses and cars tumble into the ditch and converge into the frontal. Fires fire. People are dying.
          And the government is inactive laughing

          The horror is creepy.

          What to do? Tell me.
          Or let the horse think she has a big head ... wassat
          1. +13
            December 17 2019
            On the 19th at a press conference they will tell us all .... how wonderful everything is, and so on.
            1. +5
              December 17 2019
              Quote: prior
              On the 19th at a press conference they will tell us all .... how wonderful everything is, and so on.

              where did you get internet coupons ??? what wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
          2. -4
            December 17 2019
            The occupation power serves the occupation constitution. And it does its job well. It is strange that the people, including on this forum, do not realize the state of things.
          3. +3
            December 17 2019
            Vladimir, welcome! Logically, the death of millions of Russians by age and other reasons will still be to blame, Rogozin, the pension system and personally GDP. Here, to you, not here, and the whole world is in ruin drinks wassat
        3. +3
          December 17 2019
          Do not worry. In a week, your fiasco will be forgotten today, and your next Rogozin comment will bring together Mont Blanc pluses! May be.
        4. +2
          December 17 2019
          So I want to know if there is any country where it does not have a breakdown rate even among bicycles?
      4. -1
        December 17 2019
        Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Now the bomber has been smashed.
        I apologize hi how do you manage to rewrite your koment after I gave a review on it? hi
        1. +12
          December 17 2019
          You can edit or delete a comment within five minutes. And I did not change its content, I just supplemented it. In December, a helicopter crashed, drowned a floating dock and two decommissioned submarines, set off a fire on a cruiser. Every week it drowns, burns and falls.
          1. -3
            December 17 2019
            that's no problem at all
          2. +3
            December 17 2019
            Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
            Every week it drowns, burns and falls.

            these are "breakthroughs" ...
          3. +1
            December 17 2019
            And when the Union did not fall, did not burn and did not sink? Why lie?
          4. +1
            December 17 2019
            Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
            You can edit or delete a comment within five minutes. And I did not change its content, I just supplemented it. In December, a helicopter crashed, drowned a floating dock and two written off submarines fired on a cruiser. Every week it drowns, burns and falls.
            -and moreover long written off ....
          5. -1
            December 17 2019
            Every week it drowns, burns and falls.

            Have you ever had a desire to exceed speed on a completely empty track in dry weather? If this was the case, then your post is inappropriate.
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      5. +9
        December 17 2019
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        Now the bomber has been smashed.

        This is the second loss of the Tu-22M3 this year.
        1. 0
          December 17 2019
          These planes have become obsolete for a long time .. They have an exhausted resource and it does not extend ... Their modernization for 10 years is very doubtful! What for ? They won’t last longer ... It would be better to build a Su-34! He is in no way inferior to this non-resource dinosaur, and his rocket can be carried if you really want to ... And so the money in the sand ....
          1. +5
            December 17 2019
            Quote: VO3A
            These aircraft have long become obsolete.

            B-52 has outlived itself?
            1. +6
              December 17 2019
              The B-52 has a wing without variable geometry ... On the Tu-22M3, a heavily loaded swivel assembly and a small wing, more precisely the console ... The swivel assembly is destroyed due to loads and the airplane is decommissioned, non-resource design. The Tu-22M3 has an elongated non-carrying fuselage, weak design ... We found that to compare with the Tu-95 is another matter, this one can fly for a very long time ... You need to think ... and not repeat nonsense ...
              1. +2
                December 17 2019
                B-52 - a dinosaur?
              2. 5-9
                +1
                December 18 2019
                The same as in the B-1B (which in the United States occupies about the same niche, Chot and Tu-22M3 with us). The Americans are not going to write them off ... although recently the entire fleet has been joked because of technical problems, it’s not known how and when they will decide.
          2. +8
            December 17 2019
            Quote: VO3A
            These aircraft have long outlived themselves .. They have a running out resource and it does not extend ...

            They have been trumpeting this for a long time. But what to do? There are no new long-range bombers to replace them! Wait for them for at least another 10-15 years. That's the military and get out as they can.
            Quote: VO3A
            It would be better to build a Su-34! He is in no way inferior to this non-resource dinosaur

            Yields! In all respects inferior. Su-34 is a good aircraft, but still it is only a front-line soldier, no more. For example, he will not be able to fly to Syria, bomb, and return back to Mozdok, as the Carcasses do. Unless with two refueling in the air somewhere over Iran. But it is very troublesome and expensive. We have refuellers, you know, with a gulkin nose.
            1. -5
              December 17 2019
              There are no differences with refueling, and the load is of the same order ... And the Su-34 will fly for at least 40 years ... Take and see ... And I would also be on the basis of the Su-34, and PAK YES ... The engines of the sea , everything worked out. To earn a profile, stealth materials to introduce, to hide weapons, and increase the weight a little, and you can compete .... It’s cheap and cheerful, and most importantly competently and without high costs ..
              By the way, have you seen that Chinese designers are creating on the basis of our Tu-16? Just an awesome thing!
              1. +1
                December 17 2019
                Quote: VO3A
                Just an awesome thing!

                This is your thought.
                Quote: VO3A
                And I would also be on the basis of the Su-34, and PAK YES considered ... Sea engines, everything worked out. To earn a profile, stealth materials to introduce, to hide weapons, and increase the weight a little, and you can compete .... It’s cheap and cheerful, and most importantly competently and without high costs ..
                1. -3
                  December 17 2019
                  Bored with you! There is no flight of thought .. And if you think that I was only joking, then only half ... Do you know what take-off weight the PAK YES ... Have you seen the approved version of its layout and the estimated performance characteristics? Then can you talk about something?
          3. +3
            December 17 2019
            Are you an expert on airplanes or what? Such things can be stated only after a complete examination of the design of the airframe, by the way, which has nothing to do with the engine. And newer ones fail, and what of this?
            1. 0
              December 17 2019
              So there’s almost nothing to inspect ... There were only 50 cars in the ranks, most of it is not clear in what condition the equipment is, and even 30 of them will be hard to find by glider for modernization ... And how much is lost, read the statistics, specifically for Tu- 22M3, this is without taking into account the fact that he is the best of all modifications .... We are not pi_ndosy and our government, who stupidly consider their heads ... for statistics ... A combat ready and flying plane, these are completely different concepts ....
              1. 0
                December 17 2019
                On the first Tu-22s with engines on the side of the keel, even on new ones it was scary to fly, although, as far as I remember, the seat was major. The main thing is that techies know their business, well, a little luck and luck.
              2. 0
                December 19 2019
                You are talking nonsense! The Tu-22M3 has an average flight time of 2000-2500 hours - they still have to fly and fly! They are in good condition, the aircraft repair has been repaired - and where could they wear out if they stood in the parking lot in 90-00! Gliders are in excellent condition and for modernization, you can take any drill or storage base!
          4. -1
            December 17 2019
            These planes have long become obsolete

            Yes, what problems, bro? You must add with the amers that they put all their AUGs for scrap and we, with a clear conscience, will send product 4503 for a well-deserved rest.

            and they can carry his rocket if they really want to.

            Well, yes, together one X-32 - they can, "if you really want to ..." Yes... And who will shoot down the "diamonds"? (from) what
      6. +2
        December 17 2019
        Is it really so difficult to wait for the comments of the officials, and not throw the substance on the fan. Are you hiring, my friend?
    2. 0
      December 17 2019
      Supersonic on the ground, it is somehow not imagined. request
      1. +14
        December 17 2019
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Supersonic on the ground, it is somehow not imagined. request

        But he didn’t sit on supersonic. And the wheeled trolley he quite allows landing on the ground.
      2. +4
        December 17 2019
        Yes, it has a low wing position, plus landing speed is large, in general, we are waiting for a photo from the scene.
      3. -12
        December 17 2019
        On the belly is normal, 200 km / h probably will not fall yet
        1. +9
          December 17 2019
          Quote: Screamer11
          On the belly is normal, 200 km / h probably will not fall yet

          285 - min. landing without a rocket, 300 - with a rocket, so it seems. To sit on unprepared ground at such a speed and not to decompose the plane is a miracle and great skill.
          1. -3
            December 17 2019
            I think the plane for spare parts, for him it is a one-time operation.
            1. +4
              December 17 2019
              Let's wait for the information ... But the probability of cancellation, I think, is great.
              1. -12
                December 17 2019
                He also needs to be picked out now.
                1. -1
                  December 17 2019
                  Quote: Screamer11
                  He also needs to be picked out now.

                  Pick out waste products from all of your holes, but just don’t dump them here.
                  1. -5
                    December 17 2019
                    I’m not going to take an example from you.
                    1. +3
                      December 17 2019
                      Quote: Screamer11
                      You have an example

                      Already logged in? Quickly ... fellow wassat
                    2. -1
                      December 17 2019
                      Quote: Screamer11
                      I’m not going to take an example from you.

                      Then pick it, pick it out.
                      1. -4
                        December 17 2019
                        Shoigu on this topic fit into the main thing, it is in his competence.
      4. +6
        December 17 2019
        Yeah, somehow everything is strange in this news: due to engine failure (can't 22M3 on one support horizontal flight? If there is anyone with the type, tell me), to the ground? I understand that even the Tu-144 sat on the ground, but everything was tragic there.
        Thank God they report that the crew is alive.
        Let's wait for the details.
        1. AUL
          +4
          December 17 2019
          In particular, the possibility of use of auxiliary power unit.
          How is that? On a starter fly? Specialists, please explain!
          1. +6
            December 17 2019
            it’s such a joke, the car on the starter can still get off the road, but the plane ..
            1. +6
              December 17 2019
              I agree, but in the case that the battery is in order. Roman, I watched the documentary - there supersonic landed on unpaved airfields during the muddy season. What has changed in the world?
              1. +4
                December 18 2019
                unpaved airfield is still different from the field
          2. +3
            December 17 2019
            Quote from AUL
            How is that? On a starter fly? Specialists, please explain!

            If the standard power supply system (from generators on engines) fails, two options are possible - from the APU, if available, or from the batteries.
            1. -1
              December 17 2019
              Is the Tu-22 APU a source of additional traction? I just do not know. An-32 APU 900 kgf can be used.
              1. +2
                December 17 2019
                Quote: dmmyak40
                Is the Tu-22 APU a source of additional traction?

                Did I talk about extra traction? In my opinion, I wrote in black in Russian about the APU as a source of electricity.
        2. 0
          December 19 2019
          And if the "Fire in the engine" display went off and the engine really began to fail, then it is probably correct that the crew did not show unnecessary heroism and landed the plane as soon as possible.
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    4. Kaw
      +2
      December 17 2019
      Both engines chtoli failed at once?
      1. +1
        December 17 2019
        Quote: Kaw
        Both engines chtoli failed at once?

        On news sites this is interpreted as follows:
        After the engine failure of the Tu-22 bomber the pilots were able to take the car away from the village in the Astrakhan region and land on the ground. RIA Novosti reports this with reference to the Russian Ministry of Defense. It is reported by Rambler.
        https://news.rambler.ru/incidents/43363767/?utm_content=news_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink
        1. +1
          December 17 2019
          Long-range Tu-22M3 bomber with a failed engine sat on the ground in the Astrakhan region, reports TASS with reference to a statement by the Ministry of Defense

          https://www.rbc.ru/politics/17/12/2019/5df8aa9b9a794779d8f05d77?from=from_main
          And all refer to the Ministry of Defense.
      2. -7
        December 17 2019
        On the field, as it were, more likely to sit neatly than pull to the site.
      3. +5
        December 17 2019
        Quote: Kaw
        Both engines chtoli failed at once?

        As you can see from the article, one refused,
        According to the latest information, during a flight with a missile carrier engine failed.

        but why he didn’t continue flying on the one where he sat down (if at his airport, then why on the ground) is not clear. We will wait for the details.
        1. +3
          December 17 2019
          He cannot fly on one without loss of altitude ... He has low aerodynamic quality, this is not Su-27 for you .... Pilots of the highest class - put such a machine in the field ....
          1. +1
            December 17 2019
            No matter how they say it, they are born by pilots, everything else is polished to the diamond in studies and on flights
          2. +8
            December 17 2019
            VOZA
            You are right about the pilots .... These are the testers .... they planted.
    5. +7
      December 17 2019
      The device is a pity ... the pilots are safe, and this is the main thing.
      1. +4
        December 17 2019
        Quote: rocket757
        The device is a pity ...

        May be recoverable. The crew is intact, the clever commander landed without casualties.
        1. +1
          December 17 2019
          The land is not frozen, there are no stones, no trees .... the steppe, but the steppe around.
        2. +5
          December 17 2019
          Not subject to 100%, this is not the plane ... It is very fragile ....
          1. 0
            December 17 2019
            It depends on what overload they planted. If not more than 2,5 units, then normal. Patch up on 360 ARZ and forward and with the song, it will continue to fly. There are more problems with engines.
        3. +1
          December 17 2019
          In Soviet times, an abnormal meeting with the ground meant decommissioning for a combat vehicle. The consequences are not predictable, especially in terms of design. At our initiative, the people from TEC, who had sat down rigidly on the Mi-8, decided to restore in order to create a mock simulator with a complete replacement of both harnesses and equipment. No speech was given about flights.
          1. +3
            December 17 2019
            We also, when a stupid commander-educator, in the process of educating techies, demolished the APA cockpit with the Su-24 plane, the plane was restored for 1 flight and no one else flew on it ... So that Ch_M_O would remain a divisional commander and the bulls would be checked outside the smoking room and nightstand a soldier examined ... And such were in the USSR .... But on the other hand, it was almost not able to fly ....
            1. +1
              December 17 2019
              Oh, there were specimens: the guard!
            2. +1
              December 17 2019
              A similar story with the Mi-8. Scheduled flights were usually accompanied by hunting games, the benefit of taiga and roe deer flocking around. The tactic was to descend vertically on the herd, because with fear the beast stumbles into a heap and freezes. Then they beat him. But the weather let us down that time: they went too low and a strong gust of wind tipped the car, the blades touched the ground and began to cut the cab. The leftist and the navigator died, and the bortok, who was sitting between them, was safe and sound. Fate
            3. +5
              December 17 2019
              Quote: VO3A
              We also, when a stupid commander-educator, in the process of educating techies, demolished the APA cockpit with a Su-24 plane, the plane was restored for 1 flight and no one else flew on it ...

              A similar case, after landing with an unreleased landing gear, was in Kipelovo. They replaced the half-plane on the Tu-142, flew around and wrote off the plane. True, in order to transfer the flight accident from the accident to breakdown in the reports.
            4. +2
              December 17 2019
              Quote: VO3A
              We also, when a stupid commander-educator, in the process of educating techies, demolished the APA cockpit with the Su-24 plane, the plane was restored for 1 flight and no one else flew on it ... So that Ch_M_O would remain a divisional commander and the bulls would be checked outside the smoking room and nightstand a soldier examined ... And such were in the USSR .... But on the other hand, it was almost not able to fly ....

              And another case, in the 83rd, if the memory does not fail while driving MI-8 with blades, it cuts off the boom of a truck crane! Of course, the helicopter commander is to blame, but who launched the truck crane at what to do near taxiing and flying? That's when we begin to answer uncomfortable questions, maybe then something will change!
          2. +2
            December 17 2019
            Quote: Xenofont
            In Soviet times, an abnormal meeting with the ground meant decommissioning for a combat vehicle. The consequences are not predictable, especially in terms of design. At our initiative, the people from TEC, who had sat down rigidly on the Mi-8, decided to restore in order to create a mock simulator with a complete replacement of both harnesses and equipment. No speech was given about flights.

            Come on! The training regiment, the 82nd year at night, instructors drop and lie on their side when entering the Mi-2 site. Restored in the TEH, but flying on it was scary! The deformation of the fuselage even to us (cadets) was understandable!
            1. 0
              December 17 2019
              Well, that means that the regiment commander was playing "Russian roulette". Fools in any position are found.
      2. +4
        December 17 2019
        Quote: rocket757
        The device is a pity ... the pilots are safe, and this is the main thing.

        I repeat, but what to do? Thank God for taking the money.
        1. +6
          December 17 2019
          The life of our DEFENDERS has no price ...
    6. +3
      December 17 2019
      it’s good that everyone is alive, the cars are still old, failures are likely, the black stripe has gone off for the army aviation, and the aircraft as a whole
      1. 0
        December 17 2019
        Failures and loss of equipment cannot be ruled out. It seems to me that there are fewer accidents on the current flight.
      2. +8
        December 17 2019
        Engines need to be replaced with the new NK-32-02. The resource of the NK-25 is not eternal. And if something like this happened during a combat mission in the same Syria? Would you lose a car.
        1. +1
          December 17 2019
          and even now it’s not known what condition the plane is, the one that civilian pilots put on a cornfield went to the scrap, so this one is also very likely there
    7. +1
      December 17 2019
      Well done! The pilots! they took away from the village, saved the plane, the living ones themselves remained. It would always be so.
      1. +3
        December 17 2019
        Well done! And, thank God, they are alive. Aircraft, I think, under cancellation.
    8. +8
      December 17 2019
      Here the pilots are awesome, definitely. Still, to put a bomber on the ground - this is not an autopilot for you. Here the nerves are steel and the brain is clear as a clock!
    9. +3
      December 17 2019
      The pilots, of course, well done that they could plant such a colossus on the ground. But it is really not clear, it is quite possible to continue the flight on one engine.
      "In particular, the possibility of using an auxiliary power plant is being discussed" - but this is frank nonsense
    10. 0
      December 17 2019
      Precious irreplaceable combat units are losing ...
    11. +2
      December 17 2019
      What a beautiful Tu-22 car
      1. +2
        December 17 2019
        The crew undoubtedly deserves the highest awards
      2. +1
        December 17 2019
        Military equipment is generally beautiful hi
      3. -4
        December 17 2019
        Quote: SPQR
        What a beautiful Tu-22 car

        Have you ever seen a Tu-22 thread? So-so "handsome", however.
    12. +15
      December 17 2019
      A separate question: why regular flight was not possible when one engine failed?

      Because, this information is like a hot pie. He burns his hands, and you won’t take it in your mouth. There is nothing to comment, only speculation. We will wait for reliable information and investigation. The main thing is that the crew is healthy.
    13. -5
      December 17 2019
      Pilots, designers and everyone who worked to save the crew and aircraft. Great job!
    14. +1
      December 17 2019
      Can immediately re-preserve 5 pieces ..... for the future.
      1. yay
        0
        December 17 2019
        Do we have a lot of them on conservation?
        1. 0
          December 17 2019
          Scatter from 50 to 5) Yes, only real with 10 if typed
    15. -3
      December 17 2019
      The old remains of Soviet heritage. No wonder. That ships that burn once or twice and are repaired for decades, that are old planes.
    16. -1
      December 17 2019
      Well, what's up .... bad, very bad!
    17. +5
      December 17 2019
      Nobody knows anything. In 37 minutes, 36 comments from “shoot” to reward ”and“ Tu22 is complete ... ”to“ beautiful plane ”and“ the collapse of the aviation industry has reached the end. ”“ Yellowness ”is off the charts. Are we really losing such an interesting site as VO? then we will read?
      1. +1
        December 17 2019
        Quote: Amateur
        What will we read then?

        How spaceships plow the expanses of the Bolshoi Theater.
      2. +4
        December 17 2019
        Quote: askort154
        There is nothing to comment, only speculation. We will wait for reliable information and investigation. The main thing is that the crew is healthy.

        We will not rush
      3. -1
        December 17 2019
        So far, the best comment on the thread! Sit down - five in a quarter! wassat
        1. +4
          December 17 2019
          Quote: dmmyak40
          Sit down - five in a quarter! wassat

          Thanks of course, but a hundred grams and a cucumber will be enough.
          Of course, a breakthrough of questions, but until additional information goes, it remains to be glad that the crew was not injured. The highest skill, and thank God there are comments from people who know the type. There will be information, but I think the question is a couple of days. Then we will talk and God will give someone to ask.
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    18. -2
      December 17 2019
      And no fighting is needed. The old remnants themselves fall apart, the old ships themselves burn up. Time is the worst enemy of technology. But nothing is being produced here. In addition to noodles in unlimited quantities. Me, for the fact that I wrote that these old planes ravaged. True eyes hurt. Everything is as usual.
      1. -5
        December 17 2019
        no problem, new equipment is also under construction
        1. +1
          December 17 2019
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          no problem, new equipment is also under construction

          How many new Tu-22M3s were built this year?
      2. +5
        December 17 2019
        And you do not complain, you start the update with yourself, change the nickname (Old Horseradish) to (New Horseradish). wassat
      3. +4
        December 17 2019
        Quote: Old Fuck
        True eyes hurt.

        Precisely cuts, but not true, but the smell ...
      4. +2
        December 17 2019
        The US flies on even older B-52s and nothing. B1B and B2 are also not younger than Tu-22M3. The Chinese also fly normally on the Tu-16. A bomber is not a cheap thing, even the USA cannot afford to replace an air fleet.
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      1. +1
        December 17 2019
        Rudolph hi Last year, the pediment of the central factory building of the Kazan Aviation Plant named after Gorbunov nearly killed the director of the plant. Just lucky that he was not in the car. This was a sign from above to him. The state allocates billions to resume production of the TU-160, the question is how much has come to production, and how much has been leaked through one-day firms. And these questions will arise, since the terms under the contract for the production of TU-160 are likely to be disrupted.

    20. 0
      December 17 2019
      Was the field corn?
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          1. +6
            December 17 2019
            Thank. Well, that is, lucky here does not roll. You cannot accidentally give out such a sequence of actions. Did I understand correctly?
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          2. +1
            December 18 2019
            Somehow you are all in a bunch.
            Vasilyev balancing failure. Where to pull there?
            Zertsalov was never found out specifically (- the destruction of the wing structure;
            - failure of the steering gear RP-63; - failure of the aircraft power supply.)
            I would add Zakharevich. Movement and with consequences
            In general, they now sin on fuel. It was similar with two Tu-95s from Ukrainka ..
      2. +1
        December 18 2019
        Fixed ..... 154
    23. -2
      December 17 2019
      The crew is alive, the plane is being repaired, the perpetrators are being blown up, why complain?
      Need to work.
    24. 0
      December 17 2019
      Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Now the bomber has been smashed.

      You are there ... Have a snack at least sometimes .. Health is not official
    25. +5
      December 17 2019
      rudolff (rudolff), dear, it seems to me that your ancient friend still wrote more about the Tu-22M. Everything was even worse on the Tu-22: with a landing mass of Tu-22K with a rocket of about 60 tons, the normal landing speed is 320-330 km / h, but navigator -1, pilot -1 and the worst thing is all the seats (navigator, pilot, guidance operator missiles) are catapulted DOWN, the minimum altitude for leaving the aircraft is either 300, or 350 meters. On all upgraded Tu-22 seats flew UP. I can be mistaken, as many as 35 years have passed since I serviced the Tu-22 121 of the Red Banner Guards of the Sevastopol TBAP at the Machulishchi airfield near Minsk.
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        1. +5
          December 17 2019
          rudolff (rudolff) Today, 20:46
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          Ancient:

          Someone that beguiled something, or does not know ... (apparently Ancient?), About the same method of ejection on Tu 22 and Tu 22M3 ... What is "down" on M3 ????? Can you clarify your statement?
          How strange it all sounds ...
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    26. +2
      December 17 2019
      It is not clear why an empty aircraft without a combat load and with a small remaining fuel (the situation occurred at the end of the flight) could not continue to fly on one engine, especially considering that the engine has the ability to use the afterburner mode, which almost doubles the thrust.
      1. +1
        December 18 2019
        Wrong ... from ignorance. winked
        Normally flies on one.
    27. +3
      December 17 2019
      In anticipation of the 105th anniversary of long-range aviation, another gift! But, well done guys, such a carcass to the ground is very cool to put!
    28. +4
      December 17 2019
      In particular, the possibility of using an auxiliary power plant is being discussed.

      APU TA-6A is not a spare engine, but an auxiliary one: as a source of electricity, as well as compressed air to start the NK-25 main engine (provided that the second engine is not yet running). When one of the engines is already running, the start of the second comes from the APU that is already working to save engine life. The APU can be launched in flight (you never have any problems with the aircraft’s power supply system), but only up to a height of 3 km, with the TA-6A launched, you can climb up to 6 m. If one NK-000 engine is running and there are no problems with power supply (both generators GSR-25BK of this engine is working normally), then there is no need to launch the APU.

      decided to land a long-range bomber on the ground.

      It’s not entirely clear: the landing was on the belly or normal, but on an unpaved runway? It seems, all the same, the second option, both engines - for repair. But at least the liner itself is intact. Flyers - Respect. good
    29. -1
      December 18 2019
      sorry for the bird .. such an airplane was.
    30. -2
      December 18 2019
      That is, this airplane even cannot continue flying on one engine to the nearest airfield (300 km).
      And what kind of motors are these? If I had sat down with two failed on the field - understandably. And with one ... Would be facilitated to a minimum. Somehow there is no understand ...
    31. -2
      December 18 2019
      Quote: VO3A
      The B-52 has a wing without variable geometry ..

      And how long has a 1955 bomber of release a wing of variable geometry?

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