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An emergency is reported with the Tu-22M3 missile carrier in the Astrakhan region

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An emergency situation with a long-range bomber in the Astrakhan region is reported. We are talking about the Tu-22M3 aircraft, which performed a planned flight.


According to the latest information, during the flight, the missile carrier failed the engine. The crew took the combat vehicle away from the village and decided to land a long-range bomber on the ground. The Ministry of Defense at the moment confirms information that the plane managed to land on one of the fields in the Astrakhan region.

It is emphasized that the Tu-22M3 flew without ammunition. Pilots after completing an airplane landing on the ground left the cockpit on their own. According to some reports, they do not need medical assistance. Pilots delivered to the air base.

According to unconfirmed reports, the plane made a flight from Shaikovka air base (near Kaluga) to Akhtubinsk.

A special group is being formed to find out the cause of the failure of the engine of the VKS RF supersonic missile carrier. A separate question: why regular flight was not possible when one engine failed? In particular, the possibility of using an auxiliary power plant is being discussed.
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  1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
    Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 17 December 2019 14: 09
    -20
    Now the bomber has been smashed. Most likely the quality of spare parts and repairs. An-12 and An-26, which are now in the Air Force - 50 and 35 years old. In the regiments of long-range aviation, too, far from new cars.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 17 December 2019 14: 10
      -8
      Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Now the bomber has been smashed.

      What else did you steal? angry
      1. AVA77
        AVA77 17 December 2019 14: 20
        0
        They broke it, did not break it, or put it under the door, here the main thing is to memeknut first, everything was gone.
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 17 December 2019 15: 32
          0
          Damn, at the beginning of the year in the north with the Tu-22M3 the trouble was near Murmansk,

          now in the south. Well, at least the crew is alive all this time ...
      2. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 17 December 2019 14: 24
        +19
        For decades, they killed the Kazan Aviation Plant. Gorbunova is a branch of PJSC Tupolev. They killed the production of engines for the Tu-22M3 and Tu-160. Now we have what we have.
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 17 December 2019 14: 49
          +12
          Ludwigovich, it would be good to restore socialism with the state property of all industry.
          But how to do that?
          Are there any developments in this matter?
          Action plan. Or is it fashionable to say today - is there a roadmap?

          And the fact that all the nineties destroyed the country is a fact.
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 17 December 2019 15: 49
            +7
            So we have long been state property in the industry and economy, where do not spit the national treasure in the hands of "effective" managers appointed by the state
            https://tass.ru/ekonomika/6394390
            As the FAS notes, before the 1998 crisis, the share of the state in the Russian economy was estimated at about 25%, in 2008 - already at 40-45%, by 2013 it exceeded 50%. "In 2017, according to many expert estimates, it may already exceed 60-70%. It should be noted that in 2018 the situation has not changed significantly," the antimonopoly department notes.
        2. knn54
          knn54 17 December 2019 15: 20
          +15
          The main thing is that the crew would not be guilty of the accident and not forced to pay the cost of repairs.
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt 17 December 2019 22: 02
            +7
            If they prove that it was possible to continue flying on one engine, then they can do the extreme, although I doubt it. Moreover, the plane flew without combat load, almost empty. One thing is unclear how the auxiliary power unit (APU) could help to stay in the air. It works exclusively on the ship's on-board systems and does not create traction.
          2. Filxnumx
            Filxnumx 17 December 2019 22: 50
            0
            I missed something: when did pilots of the Russian Aerospace Forces begin to receive salaries of six to seven zeros? Do you know the cost of repairs? Or are you the chairman of the commission to investigate this AIS? For reference: the cost of overhauling only one NK-25 engine is an eight-digit number!
        3. Local from the Volga
          Local from the Volga 17 December 2019 19: 40
          +1
          Where did the engine production kill ???
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 17 December 2019 21: 45
            +4
            Quote: Local from the Volga
            Where did the engine production kill ???

            in the head of patients in a mental hospital !!! request request wassat wassat wassat
        4. Serg koma
          Serg koma 18 December 2019 05: 40
          +3
          Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
          They killed the production of engines for the Tu-22M3 and Tu-160. Now we have what we have.

          Heard the phrase: "Engine failure" and away we go ... What failures can be, and for what reason ???
          Probably for you this is secondary, the main thing is "They killed the production of engines", but what if the reason for the refusal is in the fuel? Or a foreign object hit? What then tell me? Did they kill the refinery, breed the birds?
        5. hydrox
          hydrox 18 December 2019 12: 17
          +3
          I want to ask why you drive fakes?
          Is this an order of liberoids?
          We look here :: https://aviation21.ru/do-konca-goda-v-samare-izgotovyat-chetyre-dvigatelya-nk-32-02/ This is infa from 18.10.18/XNUMX/XNUMX :: during this time Samara "Kuznetsov" got up?

          [/ quote] “This year, the first contract for the supply of four new NK-32-02 engines will be completed, contracts for the supply of another 22 cars have been concluded,” said the general director of UEC.

          “We have plans for aircraft and industrial gas turbine engines to bring the number of manufactured and repaired products to 200 units per year in 2025,” A. Artyukhov added. [Quote]


          Please do not raise the spirit of our enemies ...
          1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
            Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 18 December 2019 13: 28
            +4
            After the Tu-22M3, modifications of the Tu-22M4 and Tu-22M5 were to appear. The Tupolev Design Bureau and its Kazan branch had very serious achievements. They began to be implemented in the mid-80s - the program was called "Adaptation". The plane was to receive new avionics, sighting system, engines (NK-32 - the same as on the Tu-160). In addition to engines, the aircraft was supposed to have new avionics, thanks to which the crew was reduced from four to two people. Even the flying laboratory was made by the Tu-22M4 - "small Tu-160" - it was shown at MAKS-92. But there was no funding, and the program was cut. In the "good" times, they wanted to cut the "small Tu-160", but the military gave the command "not to touch". Production of the Tu-22M3 was stopped in 1993 (at the same time as the Tu-160), presumably at the convincing request of the Americans. The extreme new car was rolled out of the final assembly shop in 1997 after long ordeals. The production of the Soviet turbojet engines NK-32 installed on the Tu-160 "White Swan" was discontinued after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Relatively recently, it was decided to resume their production, but in a modernized version (NK-32-02).
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      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 17 December 2019 14: 35
        +13
        If nobody has honesty in Russia, does this mean that you are also a dishonorable person? Or are you not a Russian citizen, and therefore allow yourself such statements?
        1. AVA77
          AVA77 17 December 2019 14: 38
          +9
          Just do not need honesty.

          highly likely
        2. Screamer11
          Screamer11 17 December 2019 14: 51
          -13
          I admit, I’m deceiving someone constantly for the sake of my personal happiness. But it is not necessary at the same time that others suffer. But in war, a lie sometimes turns into a military trick, and it seems that it is no longer a lie at all.
          1. kot28.ru
            kot28.ru 17 December 2019 15: 41
            +3
            a bondman believes that he is at war and uses military trick? So it’s not war, it seems, he’s just lying. Although there is one territory adjacent to Russia where some individuals believe that they have been at war with Russia since 2014. Clinical .....
            1. Screamer11
              Screamer11 17 December 2019 17: 08
              -2
              After all, a war is not necessary when bombs fall on your head. A man was born, and the other immediately announces to him that he must work part of his time for another. And if the first does not agree, then the whole war, if the peace in captivity agreed. Everyone chooses for himself. What do you call it?
          2. yustas
            yustas 17 December 2019 16: 10
            +2
            It is only you who think that no one is suffering, there can be no meridians in deceit, you either steal or not, if you steal, which seems to be true, then do not nod to managers. You need to start with yourself, otherwise it turns out you crap, and the neighbor is to blame, he was your boss ...
            1. Screamer11
              Screamer11 17 December 2019 17: 12
              -4
              And here is the theft, a simple example: Who went to the bathhouse with friends, one of them is not married and calls "girls", the husband will tell his wife about this later? And will he act truthfully?
    3. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 17 December 2019 14: 34
      0
      Do not pay attention, colleague, apparently the MINUSERS have a short memory and they already forgot about the sequence: float, submarine, submarine, helicopter ...
      1. bk316
        bk316 17 December 2019 14: 49
        +8
        do not pay attention, colleague

        Are you a liar too, with a crusader?
        Then comes the KNOWN PARADOX: laughing wassat belay
        LIAR STATEMENTS - HERE ALL LIARS
      2. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 17 December 2019 14: 55
        +4
        Red-skinned, you still add to your list the daily death of thousands of people across the country.

        What a universal injustice! And everyone is to blame, except you.

        And the government does not do anything.

        Airplanes and helicopters are falling. Ships and boats are drowning. Buses and cars tumble into the ditch and converge into the frontal. Fires fire. People are dying.
        And the government is inactive laughing

        The horror is creepy.

        What to do? Tell me.
        Or let the horse think she has a big head ... wassat
        1. prior
          prior 17 December 2019 15: 17
          +13
          On the 19th at a press conference they will tell us all .... how wonderful everything is, and so on.
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 17 December 2019 21: 47
            +5
            Quote: prior
            On the 19th at a press conference they will tell us all .... how wonderful everything is, and so on.

            where did you get internet coupons ??? what wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
        2. Wertgan
          Wertgan 17 December 2019 18: 13
          -4
          The occupation power serves the occupation constitution. And it does its job well. It is strange that the people, including on this forum, do not realize the state of things.
        3. yustas
          yustas 17 December 2019 19: 12
          +3
          Vladimir, welcome! Logically, the death of millions of Russians by age and other reasons will still be to blame, Rogozin, the pension system and personally GDP. Here, to you, not here, and the whole world is in ruin drinks wassat
      3. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 17 December 2019 15: 02
        +3
        Do not worry. In a week, your fiasco will be forgotten today, and your next Rogozin comment will bring together Mont Blanc pluses! May be.
      4. gurzuf
        gurzuf 17 December 2019 16: 05
        +2
        So I want to know if there is any country where it does not have a breakdown rate even among bicycles?
    4. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 17 December 2019 14: 47
      -1
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Now the bomber has been smashed.
      I apologize hi how do you manage to rewrite your koment after I gave a review on it? hi
      1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 17 December 2019 15: 12
        +12
        You can edit or delete a comment within five minutes. And I did not change its content, I just supplemented it. In December, a helicopter crashed, drowned a floating dock and two decommissioned submarines, set off a fire on a cruiser. Every week it drowns, burns and falls.
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 17 December 2019 15: 14
          -3
          that's no problem at all
        2. polar fox
          polar fox 17 December 2019 15: 49
          +3
          Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
          Every week it drowns, burns and falls.

          these are "breakthroughs" ...
        3. Ros 56
          Ros 56 17 December 2019 16: 09
          +1
          And when the Union did not fall, did not burn and did not sink? Why lie?
        4. your1970
          your1970 17 December 2019 18: 22
          +1
          Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          You can edit or delete a comment within five minutes. And I did not change its content, I just supplemented it. In December, a helicopter crashed, drowned a floating dock and two written off submarines fired on a cruiser. Every week it drowns, burns and falls.
          -and moreover long written off ....
        5. Filxnumx
          Filxnumx 17 December 2019 23: 08
          -1
          Every week it drowns, burns and falls.

          Have you ever had a desire to exceed speed on a completely empty track in dry weather? If this was the case, then your post is inappropriate.
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    5. kjhg
      kjhg 17 December 2019 14: 53
      +9
      Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
      Now the bomber has been smashed.

      This is the second loss of the Tu-22M3 this year.
      1. VO3A
        VO3A 17 December 2019 15: 09
        0
        These planes have become obsolete for a long time .. They have an exhausted resource and it does not extend ... Their modernization for 10 years is very doubtful! What for ? They won’t last longer ... It would be better to build a Su-34! He is in no way inferior to this non-resource dinosaur, and his rocket can be carried if you really want to ... And so the money in the sand ....
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 17 December 2019 15: 18
          +5
          Quote: VO3A
          These aircraft have long become obsolete.

          B-52 has outlived itself?
          1. VO3A
            VO3A 17 December 2019 15: 22
            +6
            The B-52 has a wing without variable geometry ... On the Tu-22M3, a heavily loaded swivel assembly and a small wing, more precisely the console ... The swivel assembly is destroyed due to loads and the airplane is decommissioned, non-resource design. The Tu-22M3 has an elongated non-carrying fuselage, weak design ... We found that to compare with the Tu-95 is another matter, this one can fly for a very long time ... You need to think ... and not repeat nonsense ...
            1. bober1982
              bober1982 17 December 2019 16: 34
              +2
              B-52 - a dinosaur?
            2. 5-9
              5-9 18 December 2019 10: 23
              +1
              The same as in the B-1B (which in the United States occupies about the same niche, Chot and Tu-22M3 with us). The Americans are not going to write them off ... although recently the entire fleet has been joked because of technical problems, it’s not known how and when they will decide.
        2. kjhg
          kjhg 17 December 2019 15: 46
          +8
          Quote: VO3A
          These aircraft have long outlived themselves .. They have a running out resource and it does not extend ...

          They have been trumpeting this for a long time. But what to do? There are no new long-range bombers to replace them! Wait for them for at least another 10-15 years. That's the military and get out as they can.
          Quote: VO3A
          It would be better to build a Su-34! He is in no way inferior to this non-resource dinosaur

          Yields! In all respects inferior. Su-34 is a good aircraft, but still it is only a front-line soldier, no more. For example, he will not be able to fly to Syria, bomb, and return back to Mozdok, as the Carcasses do. Unless with two refueling in the air somewhere over Iran. But it is very troublesome and expensive. We have refuellers, you know, with a gulkin nose.
          1. VO3A
            VO3A 17 December 2019 15: 58
            -5
            There are no differences with refueling, and the load is of the same order ... And the Su-34 will fly for at least 40 years ... Take and see ... And I would also be on the basis of the Su-34, and PAK YES ... The engines of the sea , everything worked out. To earn a profile, stealth materials to introduce, to hide weapons, and increase the weight a little, and you can compete .... It’s cheap and cheerful, and most importantly competently and without high costs ..
            By the way, have you seen that Chinese designers are creating on the basis of our Tu-16? Just an awesome thing!
            1. bober1982
              bober1982 17 December 2019 16: 37
              +1
              Quote: VO3A
              Just an awesome thing!

              This is your thought.
              Quote: VO3A
              And I would also be on the basis of the Su-34, and PAK YES considered ... Sea engines, everything worked out. To earn a profile, stealth materials to introduce, to hide weapons, and increase the weight a little, and you can compete .... It’s cheap and cheerful, and most importantly competently and without high costs ..
              1. VO3A
                VO3A 17 December 2019 17: 40
                -3
                Bored with you! There is no flight of thought .. And if you think that I was only joking, then only half ... Do you know what take-off weight the PAK YES ... Have you seen the approved version of its layout and the estimated performance characteristics? Then can you talk about something?
        3. Ros 56
          Ros 56 17 December 2019 16: 13
          +3
          Are you an expert on airplanes or what? Such things can be stated only after a complete examination of the design of the airframe, by the way, which has nothing to do with the engine. And newer ones fail, and what of this?
          1. VO3A
            VO3A 17 December 2019 16: 22
            0
            So there’s almost nothing to inspect ... There were only 50 cars in the ranks, most of it is not clear in what condition the equipment is, and even 30 of them will be hard to find by glider for modernization ... And how much is lost, read the statistics, specifically for Tu- 22M3, this is without taking into account the fact that he is the best of all modifications .... We are not pi_ndosy and our government, who stupidly consider their heads ... for statistics ... A combat ready and flying plane, these are completely different concepts ....
            1. Ros 56
              Ros 56 17 December 2019 16: 28
              0
              On the first Tu-22s with engines on the side of the keel, even on new ones it was scary to fly, although, as far as I remember, the seat was major. The main thing is that techies know their business, well, a little luck and luck.
            2. glasha3032
              glasha3032 19 December 2019 01: 10
              0
              You are talking nonsense! The Tu-22M3 has an average flight time of 2000-2500 hours - they still have to fly and fly! They are in good condition, the aircraft repair has been repaired - and where could they wear out if they stood in the parking lot in 90-00! Gliders are in excellent condition and for modernization, you can take any drill or storage base!
        4. Filxnumx
          Filxnumx 17 December 2019 23: 25
          -1
          These planes have long become obsolete

          Yes, what problems, bro? You must add with the amers that they put all their AUGs for scrap and we, with a clear conscience, will send product 4503 for a well-deserved rest.

          and they can carry his rocket if they really want to.

          Well, yes, together one X-32 - they can, "if you really want to ..." yes... And who will shoot down the "diamonds"? (from) what
    6. dmmyak40
      dmmyak40 17 December 2019 19: 39
      +2
      Is it really so difficult to wait for the comments of the officials, and not throw the substance on the fan. Are you hiring, my friend?
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 17 December 2019 14: 09
    0
    Supersonic on the ground, it is somehow not imagined. request
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 17 December 2019 14: 22
      +14
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Supersonic on the ground, it is somehow not imagined. request

      But he didn’t sit on supersonic. And the wheeled trolley he quite allows landing on the ground.
    2. loki565
      loki565 17 December 2019 14: 23
      +4
      Yes, it has a low wing position, plus landing speed is large, in general, we are waiting for a photo from the scene.
    3. Screamer11
      Screamer11 17 December 2019 14: 25
      -12
      On the belly is normal, 200 km / h probably will not fall yet
      1. Dude
        Dude 17 December 2019 14: 47
        +9
        Quote: Screamer11
        On the belly is normal, 200 km / h probably will not fall yet

        285 - min. landing without a rocket, 300 - with a rocket, so it seems. To sit on unprepared ground at such a speed and not to decompose the plane is a miracle and great skill.
        1. Screamer11
          Screamer11 17 December 2019 14: 53
          -3
          I think the plane for spare parts, for him it is a one-time operation.
          1. Dude
            Dude 17 December 2019 14: 59
            +4
            Let's wait for the information ... But the probability of cancellation, I think, is great.
            1. Screamer11
              Screamer11 17 December 2019 15: 01
              -12
              He also needs to be picked out now.
              1. Piramidon
                Piramidon 17 December 2019 16: 55
                -1
                Quote: Screamer11
                He also needs to be picked out now.

                Pick out waste products from all of your holes, but just don’t dump them here.
                1. Screamer11
                  Screamer11 17 December 2019 17: 15
                  -5
                  I’m not going to take an example from you.
                  1. Paranoid50
                    Paranoid50 17 December 2019 18: 03
                    +3
                    Quote: Screamer11
                    You have an example

                    Already logged in? Quickly ... fellow wassat
                  2. Piramidon
                    Piramidon 17 December 2019 18: 34
                    -1
                    Quote: Screamer11
                    I’m not going to take an example from you.

                    Then pick it, pick it out.
                    1. Screamer11
                      Screamer11 17 December 2019 21: 28
                      -4
                      Shoigu on this topic fit into the main thing, it is in his competence.
    4. Dude
      Dude 17 December 2019 14: 31
      +6
      Yeah, somehow everything is strange in this news: due to engine failure (can't 22M3 on one support horizontal flight? If there is anyone with the type, tell me), to the ground? I understand that even the Tu-144 sat on the ground, but everything was tragic there.
      Thank God they report that the crew is alive.
      Let's wait for the details.
      1. AUL
        AUL 17 December 2019 15: 59
        +4
        In particular, the possibility of use of auxiliary power unit.
        How is that? On a starter fly? Specialists, please explain!
        1. novel66
          novel66 17 December 2019 16: 04
          +6
          it’s such a joke, the car on the starter can still get off the road, but the plane ..
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 17 December 2019 21: 54
            +6
            I agree, but in the case that the battery is in order. Roman, I watched the documentary - there supersonic landed on unpaved airfields during the muddy season. What has changed in the world?
            1. novel66
              novel66 18 December 2019 07: 28
              +4
              unpaved airfield is still different from the field
        2. Piramidon
          Piramidon 17 December 2019 16: 42
          +3
          Quote: AUL
          How is that? On a starter fly? Specialists, please explain!

          If the standard power supply system (from generators on engines) fails, two options are possible - from the APU, if available, or from the batteries.
          1. dmmyak40
            dmmyak40 17 December 2019 19: 42
            -1
            Is the Tu-22 APU a source of additional traction? I just do not know. An-32 APU 900 kgf can be used.
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 17 December 2019 20: 06
              +2
              Quote: dmmyak40
              Is the Tu-22 APU a source of additional traction?

              Did I talk about extra traction? In my opinion, I wrote in black in Russian about the APU as a source of electricity.
      2. glasha3032
        glasha3032 19 December 2019 01: 17
        0
        And if the "Fire in the engine" display went off and the engine really began to fail, then it is probably correct that the crew did not show unnecessary heroism and landed the plane as soon as possible.
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  4. Kaw
    Kaw 17 December 2019 14: 14
    +2
    Both engines chtoli failed at once?
    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 17 December 2019 14: 19
      +1
      Quote: Kaw
      Both engines chtoli failed at once?

      On news sites this is interpreted as follows:
      After the engine failure of the Tu-22 bomber the pilots were able to take the car away from the village in the Astrakhan region and land on the ground. RIA Novosti reports this with reference to the Russian Ministry of Defense. It is reported by Rambler.
      https://news.rambler.ru/incidents/43363767/?utm_content=news_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink
      1. kapitan92
        kapitan92 17 December 2019 14: 24
        +1
        Long-range Tu-22M3 bomber with a failed engine sat on the ground in the Astrakhan region, reports TASS with reference to a statement by the Ministry of Defense

        https://www.rbc.ru/politics/17/12/2019/5df8aa9b9a794779d8f05d77?from=from_main
        And all refer to the Ministry of Defense.
    2. Screamer11
      Screamer11 17 December 2019 14: 23
      -7
      On the field, as it were, more likely to sit neatly than pull to the site.
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 17 December 2019 14: 34
      +5
      Quote: Kaw
      Both engines chtoli failed at once?

      As you can see from the article, one refused,
      According to the latest information, during a flight with a missile carrier engine failed.

      but why he didn’t continue flying on the one where he sat down (if at his airport, then why on the ground) is not clear. We will wait for the details.
      1. VO3A
        VO3A 17 December 2019 15: 34
        +3
        He cannot fly on one without loss of altitude ... He has low aerodynamic quality, this is not Su-27 for you .... Pilots of the highest class - put such a machine in the field ....
        1. yustas
          yustas 17 December 2019 16: 17
          +1
          No matter how they say it, they are born by pilots, everything else is polished to the diamond in studies and on flights
        2. NN52
          NN52 17 December 2019 18: 12
          +8
          VOZA
          You are right about the pilots .... These are the testers .... they planted.
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 17 December 2019 14: 17
    +7
    The device is a pity ... the pilots are safe, and this is the main thing.
    1. figwam
      figwam 17 December 2019 14: 22
      +4
      Quote: rocket757
      The device is a pity ...

      May be recoverable. The crew is intact, the clever commander landed without casualties.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 December 2019 14: 26
        +1
        The land is not frozen, there are no stones, no trees .... the steppe, but the steppe around.
      2. VO3A
        VO3A 17 December 2019 15: 36
        +5
        Not subject to 100%, this is not the plane ... It is very fragile ....
        1. Filxnumx
          Filxnumx 17 December 2019 23: 57
          0
          It depends on what overload they planted. If not more than 2,5 units, then normal. Patch up on 360 ARZ and forward and with the song, it will continue to fly. There are more problems with engines.
      3. Xenofont
        Xenofont 17 December 2019 16: 31
        +1
        In Soviet times, an abnormal meeting with the ground meant decommissioning for a combat vehicle. The consequences are not predictable, especially in terms of design. At our initiative, the people from TEC, who had sat down rigidly on the Mi-8, decided to restore in order to create a mock simulator with a complete replacement of both harnesses and equipment. No speech was given about flights.
        1. VO3A
          VO3A 17 December 2019 17: 54
          +3
          We also, when a stupid commander-educator, in the process of educating techies, demolished the APA cockpit with the Su-24 plane, the plane was restored for 1 flight and no one else flew on it ... So that Ch_M_O would remain a divisional commander and the bulls would be checked outside the smoking room and nightstand a soldier examined ... And such were in the USSR .... But on the other hand, it was almost not able to fly ....
          1. Xenofont
            Xenofont 17 December 2019 18: 02
            +1
            Oh, there were specimens: the guard!
          2. Xenofont
            Xenofont 17 December 2019 18: 16
            +1
            A similar story with the Mi-8. Scheduled flights were usually accompanied by hunting games, the benefit of taiga and roe deer flocking around. The tactic was to descend vertically on the herd, because with fear the beast stumbles into a heap and freezes. Then they beat him. But the weather let us down that time: they went too low and a strong gust of wind tipped the car, the blades touched the ground and began to cut the cab. The leftist and the navigator died, and the bortok, who was sitting between them, was safe and sound. Fate
          3. Piramidon
            Piramidon 17 December 2019 20: 14
            +5
            Quote: VO3A
            We also, when a stupid commander-educator, in the process of educating techies, demolished the APA cockpit with a Su-24 plane, the plane was restored for 1 flight and no one else flew on it ...

            A similar case, after landing with an unreleased landing gear, was in Kipelovo. They replaced the half-plane on the Tu-142, flew around and wrote off the plane. True, in order to transfer the flight accident from the accident to breakdown in the reports.
          4. not main
            not main 17 December 2019 22: 01
            +2
            Quote: VO3A
            We also, when a stupid commander-educator, in the process of educating techies, demolished the APA cockpit with the Su-24 plane, the plane was restored for 1 flight and no one else flew on it ... So that Ch_M_O would remain a divisional commander and the bulls would be checked outside the smoking room and nightstand a soldier examined ... And such were in the USSR .... But on the other hand, it was almost not able to fly ....

            And another case, in the 83rd, if the memory does not fail while driving MI-8 with blades, it cuts off the boom of a truck crane! Of course, the helicopter commander is to blame, but who launched the truck crane at what to do near taxiing and flying? That's when we begin to answer uncomfortable questions, maybe then something will change!
        2. not main
          not main 17 December 2019 21: 49
          +2
          Quote: Xenofont
          In Soviet times, an abnormal meeting with the ground meant decommissioning for a combat vehicle. The consequences are not predictable, especially in terms of design. At our initiative, the people from TEC, who had sat down rigidly on the Mi-8, decided to restore in order to create a mock simulator with a complete replacement of both harnesses and equipment. No speech was given about flights.

          Come on! The training regiment, the 82nd year at night, instructors drop and lie on their side when entering the Mi-2 site. Restored in the TEH, but flying on it was scary! The deformation of the fuselage even to us (cadets) was understandable!
          1. Xenofont
            Xenofont 17 December 2019 21: 59
            0
            Well, that means that the regiment commander was playing "Russian roulette". Fools in any position are found.
    2. WIKI
      WIKI 17 December 2019 14: 58
      +4
      Quote: rocket757
      The device is a pity ... the pilots are safe, and this is the main thing.

      I repeat, but what to do? Thank God for taking the money.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 December 2019 15: 04
        +6
        The life of our DEFENDERS has no price ...
  6. Graz
    Graz 17 December 2019 14: 18
    +3
    it’s good that everyone is alive, the cars are still old, failures are likely, the black stripe has gone off for the army aviation, and the aircraft as a whole
    1. Pavel57
      Pavel57 17 December 2019 14: 20
      0
      Failures and loss of equipment cannot be ruled out. It seems to me that there are fewer accidents on the current flight.
    2. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 17 December 2019 14: 23
      +8
      Engines need to be replaced with the new NK-32-02. The resource of the NK-25 is not eternal. And if something like this happened during a combat mission in the same Syria? Would you lose a car.
      1. Graz
        Graz 17 December 2019 14: 59
        +1
        and even now it’s not known what condition the plane is, the one that civilian pilots put on a cornfield went to the scrap, so this one is also very likely there
  7. Sitearvi
    Sitearvi 17 December 2019 14: 19
    +1
    Well done! The pilots! they took away from the village, saved the plane, the living ones themselves remained. It would always be so.
    1. Dude
      Dude 17 December 2019 14: 33
      +3
      Well done! And, thank God, they are alive. Aircraft, I think, under cancellation.
  8. faterdom
    faterdom 17 December 2019 14: 19
    +8
    Here the pilots are awesome, definitely. Still, to put a bomber on the ground - this is not an autopilot for you. Here the nerves are steel and the brain is clear as a clock!
  9. pavelty
    pavelty 17 December 2019 14: 20
    +3
    The pilots, of course, well done that they could plant such a colossus on the ground. But it is really not clear, it is quite possible to continue the flight on one engine.
    "In particular, the possibility of using an auxiliary power plant is being discussed" - but this is frank nonsense
  10. Xenofont
    Xenofont 17 December 2019 14: 21
    0
    Precious irreplaceable combat units are losing ...
  11. SPQR
    SPQR 17 December 2019 14: 21
    +2
    What a beautiful Tu-22 car
    1. SPQR
      SPQR 17 December 2019 14: 21
      +2
      The crew undoubtedly deserves the highest awards
    2. Van 16
      Van 16 17 December 2019 14: 56
      +1
      Military equipment is generally beautiful hi
    3. Doliva63
      Doliva63 17 December 2019 18: 03
      -4
      Quote: SPQR
      What a beautiful Tu-22 car

      Have you ever seen a Tu-22 thread? So-so "handsome", however.
  12. askort154
    askort154 17 December 2019 14: 21
    +15
    A separate question: why regular flight was not possible when one engine failed?

    Because, this information is like a hot pie. He burns his hands, and you won’t take it in your mouth. There is nothing to comment, only speculation. We will wait for reliable information and investigation. The main thing is that the crew is healthy.
  13. Screamer11
    Screamer11 17 December 2019 14: 22
    -5
    Pilots, designers and everyone who worked to save the crew and aircraft. Great job!
  14. lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 17 December 2019 14: 34
    +1
    Can immediately re-preserve 5 pieces ..... for the future.
    1. yay
      yay 17 December 2019 16: 09
      0
      Do we have a lot of them on conservation?
      1. lopuhan2006
        lopuhan2006 17 December 2019 18: 31
        0
        Scatter from 50 to 5) Yes, only real with 10 if typed
  15. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 17 December 2019 14: 38
    -3
    The old remains of Soviet heritage. No wonder. That ships that burn once or twice and are repaired for decades, that are old planes.
  16. Alien From
    Alien From 17 December 2019 14: 43
    -1
    Well, what's up .... bad, very bad!
  17. Amateur
    Amateur 17 December 2019 14: 53
    +5
    Nobody knows anything. In 37 minutes, 36 comments from “shoot” to reward ”and“ Tu22 is complete ... ”to“ beautiful plane ”and“ the collapse of the aviation industry has reached the end. ”“ Yellowness ”is off the charts. Are we really losing such an interesting site as VO? then we will read?
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 17 December 2019 15: 02
      +1
      Quote: Amateur
      What will we read then?

      How spaceships plow the expanses of the Bolshoi Theater.
    2. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 17 December 2019 15: 12
      +4
      Quote: askort154
      There is nothing to comment, only speculation. We will wait for reliable information and investigation. The main thing is that the crew is healthy.

      We will not rush
    3. dmmyak40
      dmmyak40 17 December 2019 19: 44
      -1
      So far, the best comment on the thread! Sit down - five in a quarter! wassat
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 17 December 2019 21: 34
        +4
        Quote: dmmyak40
        Sit down - five in a quarter! wassat

        Thanks of course, but a hundred grams and a cucumber will be enough.
        Of course, a breakthrough of questions, but until additional information goes, it remains to be glad that the crew was not injured. The highest skill, and thank God there are comments from people who know the type. There will be information, but I think the question is a couple of days. Then we will talk and God will give someone to ask.
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  18. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 17 December 2019 15: 01
    -2
    And no fighting is needed. The old remnants themselves fall apart, the old ships themselves burn up. Time is the worst enemy of technology. But nothing is being produced here. In addition to noodles in unlimited quantities. Me, for the fact that I wrote that these old planes ravaged. True eyes hurt. Everything is as usual.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 17 December 2019 15: 16
      -5
      no problem, new equipment is also under construction
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 17 December 2019 18: 05
        +1
        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        no problem, new equipment is also under construction

        How many new Tu-22M3s were built this year?
    2. AVA77
      AVA77 17 December 2019 16: 46
      +5
      And you do not complain, you start the update with yourself, change the nickname (Old Horseradish) to (New Horseradish). wassat
    3. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 17 December 2019 18: 27
      +4
      Quote: Old Fuck
      True eyes hurt.

      Precisely cuts, but not true, but the smell ...
    4. swzero
      swzero 17 December 2019 20: 23
      +2
      The US flies on even older B-52s and nothing. B1B and B2 are also not younger than Tu-22M3. The Chinese also fly normally on the Tu-16. A bomber is not a cheap thing, even the USA cannot afford to replace an air fleet.
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    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 17 December 2019 17: 23
      +1
      Rudolph hi Last year, the pediment of the central factory building of the Kazan Aviation Plant named after Gorbunov nearly killed the director of the plant. Just lucky that he was not in the car. This was a sign from above to him. The state allocates billions to resume production of the TU-160, the question is how much has come to production, and how much has been leaked through one-day firms. And these questions will arise, since the terms under the contract for the production of TU-160 are likely to be disrupted.

  20. bori.ivanov2014
    bori.ivanov2014 17 December 2019 15: 46
    0
    Was the field corn?
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        1. bk316
          bk316 17 December 2019 18: 50
          +6
          Thank. Well, that is, lucky here does not roll. You cannot accidentally give out such a sequence of actions. Did I understand correctly?
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        2. Polinom
          Polinom 18 December 2019 12: 23
          +1
          Somehow you are all in a bunch.
          Vasilyev balancing failure. Where to pull there?
          Zertsalov was never found out specifically (- the destruction of the wing structure;
          - failure of the steering gear RP-63; - failure of the aircraft power supply.)
          I would add Zakharevich. Movement and with consequences
          In general, they now sin on fuel. It was similar with two Tu-95s from Ukrainka ..
    2. Polinom
      Polinom 18 December 2019 12: 07
      +1
      Fixed ..... 154
  23. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 17 December 2019 17: 42
    -2
    The crew is alive, the plane is being repaired, the perpetrators are being blown up, why complain?
    Need to work.
  24. Zusul
    Zusul 17 December 2019 17: 52
    0
    Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
    Now the bomber has been smashed.

    You are there ... Have a snack at least sometimes .. Health is not official
  25. Tests
    Tests 17 December 2019 18: 34
    +5
    rudolff (rudolff), dear, it seems to me that your ancient friend still wrote more about the Tu-22M. Everything was even worse on the Tu-22: with a landing mass of Tu-22K with a rocket of about 60 tons, the normal landing speed is 320-330 km / h, but navigator -1, pilot -1 and the worst thing is all the seats (navigator, pilot, guidance operator missiles) are catapulted DOWN, the minimum altitude for leaving the aircraft is either 300, or 350 meters. On all upgraded Tu-22 seats flew UP. I can be mistaken, as many as 35 years have passed since I serviced the Tu-22 121 of the Red Banner Guards of the Sevastopol TBAP at the Machulishchi airfield near Minsk.
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      1. NN52
        NN52 17 December 2019 21: 28
        +5
        rudolff (rudolff) Today, 20:46
        0
        Ancient:

        Someone that beguiled something, or does not know ... (apparently Ancient?), About the same method of ejection on Tu 22 and Tu 22M3 ... What is "down" on M3 ????? Can you clarify your statement?
        How strange it all sounds ...
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  26. swzero
    swzero 17 December 2019 19: 25
    +2
    It is not clear why an empty aircraft without a combat load and with a small remaining fuel (the situation occurred at the end of the flight) could not continue to fly on one engine, especially considering that the engine has the ability to use the afterburner mode, which almost doubles the thrust.
    1. Polinom
      Polinom 18 December 2019 14: 56
      +1
      Wrong ... from ignorance. winked
      Normally flies on one.
  27. Local from the Volga
    Local from the Volga 17 December 2019 19: 38
    +3
    In anticipation of the 105th anniversary of long-range aviation, another gift! But, well done guys, such a carcass to the ground is very cool to put!
  28. Filxnumx
    Filxnumx 17 December 2019 22: 34
    +4
    In particular, the possibility of using an auxiliary power plant is being discussed.

    APU TA-6A is not a spare engine, but an auxiliary one: as a source of electricity, as well as compressed air to start the NK-25 main engine (provided that the second engine is not yet running). When one of the engines is already running, the start of the second comes from the APU that is already working to save engine life. The APU can be launched in flight (you never have any problems with the aircraft’s power supply system), but only up to a height of 3 km, with the TA-6A launched, you can climb up to 6 m. If one NK-000 engine is running and there are no problems with power supply (both generators GSR-25BK of this engine is working normally), then there is no need to launch the APU.

    decided to land a long-range bomber on the ground.

    It’s not entirely clear: the landing was on the belly or normal, but on an unpaved runway? It seems, all the same, the second option, both engines - for repair. But at least the liner itself is intact. Flyers - Respect. good
  29. aries2200
    aries2200 18 December 2019 00: 59
    -1
    sorry for the bird .. such an airplane was.
  30. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 18 December 2019 12: 17
    -2
    That is, this airplane even cannot continue flying on one engine to the nearest airfield (300 km).
    And what kind of motors are these? If I had sat down with two failed on the field - understandably. And with one ... Would be facilitated to a minimum. Somehow there is no understand ...
  31. Zanuda_2010
    Zanuda_2010 18 December 2019 15: 11
    -2
    Quote: VO3A
    The B-52 has a wing without variable geometry ..

    And how long has a 1955 bomber of release a wing of variable geometry?