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Erdogan threatens to recognize Indian genocide in America and close two US bases in Turkey

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Official Ankara makes it clear that it can at any time give an answer to American pressure, which consists primarily in sanctions. Recall that earlier in the United States it was decided to withdraw Turkey from the F-35 fighter program, as well as implement economic pressure measures against government officials who took part in the preparation and signing of a contract for the purchase of S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems from Russia.


In addition, Turkey was touched by the resolution of the American Congress, which recognized the genocide of the Armenians in the Ottoman Empire in 1915.
According to the Turkish president, Ankara in response may recognize the genocide of the Indians in America.

Recep Erdogan:

This is a dark page in American stories. And you must not keep silent about this when you talk about America. Such a decision (on the genocide of Native American peoples) should not be made by politicians, but by historians.

Erdogan also once again repeated his threats against the United States over his readiness to close immediately two American military bases on Turkish territory.

The President of Turkey on the air of one of the major Turkish television channels:

It is important for us that the United States does not take measures in bilateral relations that cannot be remedied. But we are ready to answer sanctions. We will discuss and decide everything. If necessary, we are ready to close Incirlik and Kureggik bases for the US military.

Recall that at the Incirlik airbase alone today there are about 5,5 thousand US military personnel.
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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 16 December 2019 04: 15
    -1
    genocide army in the Ottoman Empire in 1915.
    The Armenian Genocide .....
    And in response, the Turks will "genocide" the US Army on two bases! smile
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 16 December 2019 04: 28
      +8
      An interesting statement by Erdogan, isn't it a fake?
      1. svp67
        svp67 16 December 2019 04: 57
        +26
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        An interesting statement by Erdogan, isn't it a fake?

        Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, in response to the fact that the US Senate adopted a resolution recognizing the Armenian Genocide in the Ottoman Empire in 1915, warned that nothing prevents the Turkish parliament from recognizing what was done to the Indians during the colonization of America.

        A statement was made on A Haber.
        1. bessmertniy
          bessmertniy 16 December 2019 05: 36
          +31
          And how did the Americans spread the black Negroes who were held in slavery, and then they puppeted for a long time! negative This can also be recognized as genocide. It is necessary to prompt this to Erdogan.
          1. svp67
            svp67 16 December 2019 05: 40
            +15
            Quote: bessmertniy
            This can also be recognized as genocide.

            And there you can reach the Mexicans with the Peruvians. no, not all at once ...
            1. Vladimir16
              Vladimir16 16 December 2019 06: 28
              +25
              Quote: svp67
              And there, and before the Mexicans with the Peruvians

              Koreans, Vietnamese, Serbs (Yugoslavia), Iraqis, Libyans, Germans in Dresden, and we will not forget the Japanese I nuclear fire.

              Ghouls they are these united states in America.
              1. bayard
                bayard 16 December 2019 07: 23
                +8
                Quote: Vladimir16
                Koreans, Vietnamese, Serbs (Yugoslavia), Iraqis, Libyans, Germans in Dresden, and we will not forget the Japanese I nuclear fire.

                And Afghanistan will not be forgotten.
                Erdogan begins a good deed. wink
                1. Fraracol_2
                  Fraracol_2 16 December 2019 09: 09
                  -18
                  Whose "Afghanistan" do you mean?
                  1. Vladimir61
                    Vladimir61 16 December 2019 12: 20
                    +17
                    Quote: Fraancol_2
                    Whose "Afghanistan" do you mean?

                    And you ask today's Afghans! Watch reports from modern Afghanistan and their responses to the events of the 80s. Most of them, even those who fought on the side of the spirits, have long recognized that the Shuravi built, fed, and taught. They gave Afghanistan the opportunity to establish a civilized, progressive development in economic, political and educational status. We never climbed into their culture and religion, did not encroach on its independence. That, then, did not please the West. Apparently this page of history does not like and does not give rest to today's saucepan and political marginal ....
                    1. The comment was deleted.
                      1. Vladimir61
                        Vladimir61 17 December 2019 10: 06
                        +1
                        Quote: Fraancol_2
                        Of course they helped, built, taught, fed, treated. Only here is a little misfortune:

                        What attracts you, with its truth, to the aggressor’s website? You, at home, deal with misfortunes ...
                2. Oyo Sarkazmi
                  Oyo Sarkazmi 16 December 2019 15: 52
                  +2
                  Quote: bayard
                  Erdogan starts a good business

                  For the blind-deaf-dumb Europhews, Erdogan's statements are something far beyond the horizon. They are their citizens - the British, French, Italians - they can kill without succession. Even the trial ended in Italy over the 21st American, who killed 7 Italians with a sentencing, did not lead to the triumph of justice. These Americans were not put on the international wanted list, and were not even recognized as persona non grata. They can come to Europe and again kill at least fifty EU citizens. But now everyone will remember the fate of Berlusconi, who was persecuted for a couple of thousand unpaid taxes on time.
              2. Maki Avellevich
                Maki Avellevich 16 December 2019 07: 35
                +15
                Quote: Vladimir16
                Koreans, Vietnamese, Serbs (Yugoslavia), Iraqis, Libyans, Germans in Dresden, and we will not forget the Japanese I nuclear fire.

                Well, the Japanese and Germans at that time had already been so genocidal themselves that you can safely remove them from this list of victims.
                1. Vladimir16
                  Vladimir16 16 December 2019 12: 51
                  +8
                  Kill civilians in the hundreds of thousands?
                  How then do Americans differ from Germans and the same Japanese?
                  The answer is obvious - nothing.

                  So, neither Germans nor Japanese can be excluded from the list.
                  The American leadership decided to destroy the civilian population of Germany and Japan are the same scum as the Nazis from Germany and the Japanese militarists.
                  One suit.

                  Not for nothing that many fascists hid in the United States after the defeat of Germany.

                  A ghoul does not cease to be a ghoul after the destruction of one ghoul by another ghoul.

                  All who call themselves an exclusive nation are the Nazis.
                  1. Oyo Sarkazmi
                    Oyo Sarkazmi 16 December 2019 15: 55
                    +1
                    After killing 3 million Iraqis, during the 5 years of his reign, Bush brought them into his asset for admission to paradise - he democratized the Iraqi Indians.
                  2. Maki Avellevich
                    Maki Avellevich 16 December 2019 17: 15
                    0
                    Quote: Vladimir16
                    Kill civilians in the hundreds of thousands?
                    How then do Americans differ from Germans and the same Japanese?
                    The answer is obvious - nothing.


                    Yes, they’re not particularly different.
                    as Woland said:

                    People are like people. They love money, but it has always been ... Mankind loves money, no matter what they are made of, whether from leather, from paper, from bronze or from gold. Well, frivolous ... well, well ... and mercy sometimes beats in their hearts ... ordinary people ... in general, resemble the former ... the housing issue only spoiled them ...
              3. SSR
                SSR 16 December 2019 07: 37
                +5
                Quote: Vladimir16
                Quote: svp67
                And there, and before the Mexicans with the Peruvians

                Koreans, Vietnamese, Serbs (Yugoslavia), Iraqis, Libyans, Germans in Dresden, and we will not forget the Japanese I nuclear fire.

                Ghouls they are these united states in America.

                States, this is a burp of the British.
                Tasmanians: how the British exterminated the people who preserved ...
                zen.yandex.ru ›media / id / ... / ...
                Only 73 years were enough for the British to completely destroy this people. All who call themselves ...

                I apologize for inserting such excerpts, but it’s just for other people and independent search and reading, because it can’t be described briefly.
                British concentration camps for civilians: historical photos
                m.fishki.net ›2373969 ... konclagerja ...
                The word 'concentration camp' is usually associated with the Nazis, but the camps of the Third Reich were far from the first in history - The best and most interesting posts on the topic: England, war, terrible photos on the entertainment portal Fishki.net. Hide

                And if you still read how Irish they were almost 10 million genocide ... Terrible, cruel, cynical and deceitful people.
              4. Pete mitchell
                Pete mitchell 16 December 2019 10: 27
                0
                Quote: Vladimir16
                Quote: svp67
                And there, and before the Mexicans with the Peruvians

                Koreans, Vietnamese, Serbs (Yugoslavia), Iraqis, Libyans, Germans in Dresden, and we will not forget the Japanese I nuclear fire.

                hi This is a list, so to speak selected America’s enemies, it’s enough to see how they relate to their allies, from the latter: Libya - they simply did not give a damn about everyone; regularly there are reports that even in unfortunate Latvia objectionable stripping Lately; I hope Turkey will not let them down.
                Quote: Vladimir16
                Ghouls they are these united states in America.
            2. Lelek
              Lelek 16 December 2019 11: 54
              +5
              Quote: svp67
              And there you can reach the Mexicans with the Peruvians. no, not all at once ...

              hi , Sergei.
              With all the ambiguous attitude towards Erdogan, it should be noted the steadfastness of this "tin soldier". As a NATO member, you must have courage and obstinacy to object in a threatening style to the "commander-in-chief".
          2. Piramidon
            Piramidon 16 December 2019 08: 05
            +5
            Quote: bessmertniy
            And how did the Americans spread the black Negroes who were held in slavery, and then they puppeted for a long time! This can also be recognized as genocide. It is necessary to prompt this to Erdogan.

            It would be necessary for us to connect to this. And remember Vietnam. And then the Yankees have not just been accused of genocide and human rights violations
            1. Alexander Suvorov
              Alexander Suvorov 16 December 2019 08: 16
              +2
              Piramidon (Stepan. Russia)
              It would be necessary for us to connect to this. And remember Vietnam. And then the Yankees have not just been accused of genocide and human rights violations
              So they only do what they blame others for what they themselves are to blame.
              For example, a recent attempt to accuse Russia of aiding terrorism ... The main terrorist on the planet is trying to accuse the main fighter against terrorism, what’s your number ?!
              We say on the thief and the hat is on.
              Now let the heels of the Naglosaksa now burn, if Erdogan promotes his initiative in practice, and not just in words, then this will be a good initiative to poke these creatures with their nose.
            2. den3080
              den3080 16 December 2019 12: 11
              0
              Quote: Piramidon
              Quote: bessmertniy
              And how did the Americans spread the black Negroes who were held in slavery, and then they puppeted for a long time! This can also be recognized as genocide. It is necessary to prompt this to Erdogan.

              It would be necessary for us to connect to this. And remember Vietnam. And then the Yankees have not just been accused of genocide and human rights violations

              Yes, one use of the Defiant Agent Orange in Vietnam and Laos is worth it! And it was not so long ago. There are a lot of victims. A lot of film and photo documents.
          3. Ros 56
            Ros 56 16 December 2019 09: 41
            +1
            Tell Putin and Lavrov this, they will have something to impose sanctions on the striped. negative
          4. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 16 December 2019 13: 14
            +2
            Yesterday there was a live broadcast on the Turkish channel A TV, and I watched Erdogan's interview in full. He talked a lot about the blacks, how the West was engaged in the slave trade, and how the United States was involved in it, etc. He also spoke about the destruction of the Indians, for a long time and in detail. He did not threaten the United States, he simply noted, warned that do not bring business with "genocides" and sanctions to the point of absurdity, noting that we will not sit with our hands tied, we will answer ... : will you close the bases too? Erdogan: we are allies with the United States and we expect them to act befitting an allied relationship. If we are forced by not deliberate ... actions, then we can also consider the closure of these bases.
      2. Valery Valery
        Valery Valery 16 December 2019 05: 34
        +8
        Erdogan threatens to recognize Indian genocide in America and close two US bases in Turkey

        I would like to see it.
      3. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 16 December 2019 07: 49
        -6
        The old man’s counterarguments end and he decided to open a history textbook?)
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 16 December 2019 08: 19
          +3
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          The old man’s counterarguments end and he decided to open a history textbook?)

          In this case, in addition to the casino license, the States will have to give the Indians a monopoly on trade with Turkey lol
          1. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 16 December 2019 13: 37
            +2
            2011 "The Natural Resources Committee of the American House of Representatives passed a bill that allows Native Americans to trade directly with Turkish companies." I didn’t follow up on whether I was accepted or not.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 16 December 2019 14: 14
              +6
              Quote: Oquzyurd
              2011 "The Natural Resources Committee of the American House of Representatives passed a bill that allows Native Americans to trade directly with Turkish companies." I didn’t follow up on whether I was accepted or not.

              I successfully pinned laughing In fact, a monopoly means the possibility of selling Winds and bitten apples (khol in Turkey is much more popular than Spmsung) only through all sorts of Cherokee (owners of Hard Rock cafe, by the way) good
        2. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 16 December 2019 13: 34
          +1
          Tell me, what are they doing in the US Senate if they are trumpeting about "genocide"? That is, in your opinion, the United States is full of "arguments" when they yell about a hundred years ago, and Turkish counterarguments hurt their eyes?
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 16 December 2019 14: 16
            +5
            They put pressure on Erdogan, at the same time senators assimilate the money of a rather wealthy Armenian community in the USA, for which these events are both a sore point and part of a national idea.
      4. 4ekist
        4ekist 16 December 2019 17: 24
        0
        It is also necessary to mention Japan. How many people were brutally murdered in China and SE Asia.
    2. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 16 December 2019 05: 32
      +2
      The most interesting thing is that the Trump team is achieving this. They need a smooth landing of the United States to the level of a regional power. The closure of two bases in Turkey is a step towards this goal.
      1. svp67
        svp67 16 December 2019 05: 51
        +2
        Quote: Tank jacket
        They need a smooth landing of the United States to the level of a regional power.

        So you think Trump is an isolationist?
        1. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 16 December 2019 06: 15
          +3
          hi That's right, only he is not alone, he is the representative of the team that promoted him for this purpose ...
          1. svp67
            svp67 16 December 2019 06: 17
            +5
            Quote: Tank jacket
            That's right, only he is not alone, he is the representative of the team that promoted him for this purpose ...

            Somehow his business career suggests otherwise. But anything can be ... "Paris is worth a mass"
            1. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 16 December 2019 06: 23
              +1
              Trump has been bankrupt so many times - specially prepared for the upheavals of the nineties American style.
        2. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 16 December 2019 08: 51
          +1
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Tank jacket
          They need a smooth landing of the United States to the level of a regional power.

          So you think Trump is an isolationist?

          This is just a tool. The goal is the restructuring of the United States, a complete reformatting into hegemon, otherwise everyone laughs.
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 16 December 2019 08: 48
        +1
        Quote: Tank jacket
        The most interesting thing is that the Trump team is achieving this. They need a smooth landing of the United States to the level of a regional power. The closure of two bases in Turkey is a step towards this goal.

        You understand correctly, comrade. good Trump is on the right track. That's just that it’s not helping us build SP-2 well.
        1. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 16 December 2019 09: 16
          0
          hi There is a team of Clintonids there, they interfere with building SP-2.
    3. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 16 December 2019 06: 47
      0
      Do you think that the US response to the closure of two military bases will be recognition by Congress as an act of the Turkish GENACIDE over the US military? hi
      1. bayard
        bayard 16 December 2019 07: 26
        +2
        Quote: Ruswolf
        Do you think that the US response to the closure of two military bases will be recognition by Congress as an act of the Turkish GENACIDE over the US military?

        Whatever the "child" is amused with, if only he hangs yes
  2. svp67
    svp67 16 December 2019 04: 19
    +12
    Erdogan threatens to recognize genocide of Indians in America
    Ah well done, come on, Sultan, do what no one else has done yet .... I am for you, for you ...
    and close two US bases in Turkey
    Well, if you, Your Majesty, do this too ... I will even sing an aria from "Zaporozhets on the Danube":
    "Now I am a Turk, not a Cossack ..."
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 16 December 2019 04: 30
      +7
      Yeah, we buy beer and watch the denouement! If only the Sultan would not be blown away !!!
      1. svp67
        svp67 16 December 2019 04: 31
        +8
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        If only the Sultan would not be blown away !!!

        Yes, if only his "kondraty was not enough", otherwise something flushed ...
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 16 December 2019 04: 34
          +4
          Everything can be in the kingdom of Denmark, hmm .... in the Magnificent Port! The harem will rebel, the Janissaries will flee to the dervishes, etc., but the move is tough !!! And arouses respect!
          How is it from the position of Tampa - “Paris is worth the Mass”?
          1. svp67
            svp67 16 December 2019 04: 40
            +2
            Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
            How is it from the position of Tampa - “Paris is worth the Mass”?

            Actually, Heinrich of Navarre said it, but the meaning is true
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 16 December 2019 05: 03
              +4
              I know! But how far will they go in their picks ....?
              1. svp67
                svp67 16 December 2019 05: 08
                +4
                Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                But how far will they go in their picks ....?

                Judging by the way they behave, they are sooooo far ... They stand each other, and the most interesting is that at some point, both can calmly meet and shake hands. Politicians w ...
                Well, both of them perfectly understand the interest in each other.
            2. cost
              cost 16 December 2019 14: 57
              +1
              Kote Pan Kokhanka (Vladislav): How is it from the position of Tampa - “Paris is worth the Mass”?

              Ingerlick stands Gulen
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 16 December 2019 08: 54
        +1
        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Yeah, we buy beer and watch the denouement! If only the Sultan would not be blown away !!!

        The USA can also be blown away.
        And the Sultan wants a Patriot and an F-35.
    2. tkoh
      tkoh 16 December 2019 07: 36
      -4
      People like you and Su 24 forgave them
      1. svp67
        svp67 16 December 2019 08: 25
        +3
        Quote: tkoh
        People like you and Su 24 forgave them

        Yes, to repay them all for their business ... I think that if he drives the Americans out of his territory and toughens the passage of their ships through the straits, then he will "wash away" part of his guilt ... Alas, this is real life. How sad it is
    3. ℳy ℒiƒℯ
      ℳy ℒiƒℯ 16 December 2019 12: 04
      -4
      I'll even sing an aria from "Zaporozhets on the Danube":
      "Now I am a Turk, not a Cossack ..."

      How little Russians need to be happy. laughing
  3. Anatoly 288
    Anatoly 288 16 December 2019 04: 31
    +9
    This is the move! Ay yes Erdogan! This is who should be nominated for the title "Person of the Year"!
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 16 December 2019 05: 41
      +3
      Well, in this respect it is still difficult to say whether Erdogan has a chance to win, or Eun. what wassat
    2. novobranets
      novobranets 16 December 2019 06: 21
      +3
      Quote: Anatoly 288
      This is who should be nominated for the title "Person of the Year"!

      Do not rush to conclusions when dealing with Edorgan, and indeed with Turkey. To promise does not mean to marry.
    3. Sasha_2
      Sasha_2 16 December 2019 06: 40
      -9
      Wait until he knocks out the next SU from s-400, and then nominate
      1. bayard
        bayard 16 December 2019 08: 01
        +1
        It will not happen .
        Why
        In order to shoot down Su, you need a Patriot.
        But his own does not shoot. wink
  4. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 16 December 2019 04: 54
    +1
    It seems that Turkey is going to join the customs union. Eh, have to accept ...
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 16 December 2019 06: 27
      0
      Quote: Tank jacket
      It seems that Turkey is going to join the customs union.

      It has long been torn there, but the EU does not allow it beyond the threshold.
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 16 December 2019 06: 31
        0
        Well, the EU doesn’t let it go ... So sht ...
    2. bayard
      bayard 16 December 2019 08: 42
      +2
      Quote: Tank jacket
      It seems that Turkey is going to join the customs union. Eh, have to accept ...

      Rather, in Eurasian, which is much more promising.
      And why not accept? At least to the place that Ukraine was preparing.
      And after all, how much is such a participant / partner and partly an ally, more profitable than some Greeks, Armenians and other troebals?
      An order of magnitude!
      Yes, and such a militant ... wink
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 16 December 2019 09: 13
        +1
        I agree, completely. About the fact that militant in particular. The second most powerful army in NATO.
    3. mammadov teymur
      mammadov teymur 16 December 2019 13: 45
      +1
      and to be more precise, the president of all Russia two years ago invited Turkey to enter customs, they said you have a smoldering conflict there (the Karabakh issue), solve it and there are no problems, we would be automatically pulled up in customs by us (Azerbaijan).
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 16 December 2019 14: 12
        0
        Well, the EU is full of smoldering conflicts ...
  5. eagle owl
    eagle owl 16 December 2019 05: 02
    0
    "You have already got everything - that's why! Fire at anyone without hitting ...." - "Dogma"
  6. rufaqn
    rufaqn 16 December 2019 05: 09
    -4
    He will not recognize anything, and F 35 will be delivered to them, and the base will be preserved, and Trump will call him "a good guy", but will not betray Gulen.
    1. bayard
      bayard 16 December 2019 08: 49
      +3
      Quote: rufaqn
      and F 35 they put

      True ? winked
      True true ?
      And the Patriot too?
      In my Erdogan, Gulen will be more interesting yes
      But they will not deliver and will not give out.
      But the Armenian Genocide has already been recognized.
      And do not cancel!
      And they will introduce sanctions!
      And they will add.
      For the Turks not only bought the S-400, they will buy it ... and the S-400 too.
      And they will not refuse.
      And they will enjoy the impotent anger of the "hegemon" ...
      They are already enjoying.
      1. rufaqn
        rufaqn 16 December 2019 22: 20
        -1
        what are the passions for the Turetch region? in addition to the C 400, Turkey also wanted to buy the Patriot, this will be an exchange. As a result, Turkey will have two perfect air defense systems, each of which has its own advantages and disadvantages, and F 35, which can be endlessly watered with mud, but which is the best multifunctional, and until the sixth generation Penguin appears will be the benchmark for military aviation for many years ...
        1. bayard
          bayard 17 December 2019 03: 07
          +2
          Quote: rufaqn
          what kind of passion in Turetchin?

          No passions, only pragmatics - trade, transit, logistics, solving regional problems. With the Turks, so far everything is a plus.
          But with the Greeks, Armenians, etc. interested at our expense - only minus. request
          Quote: rufaqn
          in addition to C 400, Turkey also wanted to buy a Patriot, this will be an exchange

          There will be no exchange. The Turks are ready to buy a Patriot for balanced air defense. Not by the quality of the products, but by the possible limitations of each. The Patriot will never hit an American plane ... and an Israeli ... and maybe even a Greek one. And the S-400, respectively, is a Russian aircraft and an aircraft of our allies of our own production. Turks insure themselves and they are right.
          But the Americans WILL NOT SELL them. And not even out of fear of shame from comparative tests to evaluate each, they did not sell at the best of times. And f-35 all the more not to sell.
          Turkey is a hunk cut off from NATO, and what we see now is a performance, a divorce procedure and the desire to save face (in America) and the desire to stretch time and subtly touch it - from the Turks.
          Quote: rufaqn
          and F 35 which can be watered endlessly with mud, but which is the best multifunctional, and until the sixth generation "Penguin" appears, it will be the benchmark for military aviation for many years.

          Surround!
          Best
          Well, except for avionics.
          Supersound can not develop - no more than 1-2 minutes. otherwise the radar absorbent coating will fly around. For the same reason, do not fly in the clouds - it will fall off (cover). Weapons on supersonic will not apply - the wings will not open, but hang on the pylons - goodbye stealth. I do not write about speed, thrust-weight ratio and maneuverability - the topic is hackneyed.
          But the Turks, of course, would have bought a little party-they were included in the cooperation, but FSE was already EXCLUDED. And sanctions have been imposed (for now, a little). And the Armenian Genocide was recognized ...
          Not .
          There will be no reconciliation - the pots are beaten and continue to beat.

          And the United States ... not that this situation is beneficial ... it is inevitable for objective reasons - they are curtailing their global presence. They are curtailing (to a large extent already curtailed) in Africa, withdrawing from Afghanistan, preparing the ground for withdrawal from almost everywhere ... They simply do not pull the strap of the world gendarme, either materially or physically. They are just ... too dumb and straightforward ... and they are already BANKRUPT in a state \ mode of delayed catastrophe. Circumstances require them to maneuver reasonably and harmonize relations with partners, but they maneuver like an ELEPHANT IN A TABLE STORE, because they cannot do otherwise. And do not learn.
          So let’s drink to the death of the hopeless, and the health of all the others - the living. drinks
  7. evgen1221
    evgen1221 16 December 2019 05: 13
    -1
    Something I am inclined to believe that the Sultan will carry out the threat if mattresses repeat the hitting. Unlike some (patriotic Russian politicians).
  8. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 16 December 2019 05: 13
    +5
    I, the Sultan, the son of Mohammed, the brother of the sun and moon, the grandson and governor of God, the owner of the kingdoms - Macedonian, Babylonian, Jerusalem, Great and Lesser Egypt, the king over the kings, the lord over the lords, an extraordinary knight, an unstoppable knight, the relentless guardian of the tomb of Jesus Christ, the guardian of God himself, the hope and comfort of Muslims, the embarrassment and great defender of Christians - I command you, American Presidents, to surrender to me voluntarily and without any resistance and me, your attacks are not worth it to disturb.

    Sultan of Turkish M̶a̶h̶m̶u̶d̶ ̶I̶V̶. Erdogan
    laughing
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 16 December 2019 06: 29
      +3
      Quote: Mordvin 3
      I command you, z̶a̶p̶o̶r̶o̶zh̶s̶k̶i̶e̶ ̶k̶a̶z̶a̶k̶ and the American democrats, to surrender to me voluntarily and without any resistance and not to force me to bother you with your attacks.

  9. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 16 December 2019 05: 28
    +7
    Erdogan threatens to recognize Indian genocide in America and close two US bases in Turkey

    I did it right. It is necessary to answer adequately and only for your misconduct (deeds), and not to smear the snot, wiping yourself from spitting.
  10. Sasha_2
    Sasha_2 16 December 2019 06: 29
    -8
    The US Declaration of Independence was declared at the end of the 18th century, almost 3 centuries after Columbus discovered America and began colonization. If there is such a truth-teller, then blame Britain, and at the same time the Spaniards, Portuguese and French - they also colonized America. At such a pace, Erdogan will soon catch up with Vladimir Vladimirovich and overtake him.
  11. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 16 December 2019 07: 27
    0
    Such a decision (on the genocide of Native American peoples) should not be made by politicians, but by historians.

    Well yes. S-400 = sanctions = Armenian genocide. American sanctions = Indian genocide. What nafig "historians"? Politicians!
  12. Professor
    Professor 16 December 2019 07: 53
    +2
    Erdogan threatens to recognize Indian genocide in America and close two US bases in Turkey

    1. Americans themselves recognized and concluded the genocide of the Indians. For example, Native American reservations created where the police ordered entry and where they do not pay taxes. Let Erdogan follow the American example.
    2. "I will freeze at my mother's feet" and drive the Americans out of Turkey and join NATO. The cherry on top is joining the CSTO.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 16 December 2019 08: 22
      +5
      The cherry will be the monopoly of the US Indians, as victims of the genocide), to trade with Turkey - then Erdogan is really prettier laughing
      1. Professor
        Professor 16 December 2019 10: 44
        +1
        Quote: Krasnodar
        The cherry will be the monopoly of the US Indians, as victims of the genocide), to trade with Turkey - then Erdogan is really prettier laughing

        The recent scandal with Turkish aluminum is a good indicator of who is Moska and who is an elephant.

        Quote: Moskovit
        As far as I know, not everything is so simple. Therefore, 60% of Indians prefer to live out of reservations and this is the most active and competent part of them.
        Badlands. High crime, prohibitive alcoholism and drug addiction. But low social and medical care. You do not pay taxes if your product is manufactured and sold on the reservation. Do you produce and sell a lot there? Therefore, drunken grandmothers are sitting near Indian shops with Native American tobacco and for a couple of bucks they buy cigarette blocks for tourists. For only residents of the reservation can buy duty-free cigarettes. The land and income of the Indians is managed by a special bureau. So not a single contract, not a single deal will pass by a white man. Of course, the authorities are paying.
        And Congress apologized. And Navajo recently recently lent a total of 500 million for the misuse of their land. And a casino without taxes. But all this goes to the top of the tribes. The rest survive as they can. Therefore, the percentage of suicides is twice as high as the national average.

        The casino gives a good tax, and the fact that they live poorly so pale-faced in this case is not to blame.
    2. Moskovit
      Moskovit 16 December 2019 08: 56
      +4
      As far as I know, not everything is so simple. Therefore, 60% of Indians prefer to live out of reservations and this is the most active and competent part of them.
      Badlands. High crime, prohibitive alcoholism and drug addiction. But low social and medical care. You do not pay taxes if your product is manufactured and sold on the reservation. Do you produce and sell a lot there? Therefore, drunken grandmothers are sitting near Indian shops with Native American tobacco and for a couple of bucks they buy cigarette blocks for tourists. For only residents of the reservation can buy duty-free cigarettes. The land and income of the Indians is managed by a special bureau. So not a single contract, not a single deal will pass by a white man. Of course, the authorities are paying.
      And Congress apologized. And Navajo recently recently lent a total of 500 million for the misuse of their land. And a casino without taxes. But all this goes to the top of the tribes. The rest survive as they can. Therefore, the percentage of suicides is twice as high as the national average.
    3. Kondratko
      Kondratko 16 December 2019 10: 56
      0
      Quote: Professor
      For example, Native American reservations created where the police ordered entry and where they do not pay taxes.

      Probably in this sentence the key phrase is not "do not pay taxes", but the word "reservations", it is like concentration camps ... In the camps of Auschwitz, no one paid taxes either!
      Americans are the main ones in genocides, the hardest Nazis and racists on the planet, you can't argue with that! There is so much blood on their hands that it will be impossible to wash them. And the fact that today they have become "white and fluffy" does not negate their past deeds.
      1. Professor
        Professor 16 December 2019 11: 13
        -3
        Quote: KondratKo
        Probably in this sentence the key phrase is not "do not pay taxes", but the word "reservations", it is like concentration camps ... In the camps of Auschwitz, no one paid taxes either!

        Invalid comparison. Indians can live on a reservation, they can live anywhere else. The rest cannot live on the reservation.

        Quote: KondratKo
        Americans are the main ones in genocides, the hardest Nazis and racists on the planet, you can't argue with that! There is so much blood on their hands that it will be impossible to wash them. And the fact that today they have become "white and fluffy" does not negate their past deeds.

        Tell us who built Fort Ross, and from whom did they defend themselves so much? How did they even get to the Indian land these inhabitants of the fort? request
    4. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 16 December 2019 14: 04
      +3
      Apparently you "accidentally" passed by the mega number of those killed and the geographical scale of what was happening. Tell me, how many Indians were killed in the United States, and how many living museum quantities were left? It wasn't that hard to bring them together, the survivors, was it?
      "made conclusions"? After the "conclusions" from the United States, they became so "in love with people" that all over the world they killed millions by throwing YaB, napalms, land mines ..... holding before their eyes the image of a tortured Indian, and in their hearts repentance .... YES ?
      1. Karen
        Karen 16 December 2019 17: 51
        0
        Oguz, how did your epic end, that there are Indians whose skull matches your type of skull and what they asked for your support?
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 19 December 2019 18: 20
          0
          Below are some words as an example of different Indian tribes in comparison with the Azerbaijani (Turkic) language:

          Lakota:

          ……

          Ate - ata- father

          Wakhan Thanka - Tanri - God

          Yuzaza - yumaq - wash

          Han - hə - yes

          Gli - gəl, gəlmək - come, come

          Için - onun üçün - because

          Huchuu - quş (uçmaq) - birds, birdie

          Ina - Ana - mother

          Çikana - balaca (cikkana) - small, small

          .......

          Mapuche:

          .......

          Buka - böyük - large

          Kürü - qara - black

          Kuyum - qum - sand

          Ge - göz - eye

          .......

          Navajo:

          ....

          Haiwani - inək, heyvan - cow

          Ema- ana- mother

          O'odham - adam - man

          Xoce - qoca- old, gray-haired

          Ataa - ata - father

          Ala - Əl - hand

          Atsi -Ət - meat

          Ajaad - ayaq - foot

          Miil - min - thousand

          .........

          Comanche:

          .........

          Apu - ata - father

          Patsi - baci - sister

          Haa - hə - yes

          .........

          Cuscan Quechua (Inca):

          ....

          Pishuu - vaşaq, pişik - lynx

          Ichik - kiçik, balaca - small

          Ayllu - ailə, aul, qışlaq - family, village, aul

          Quruta - yumurta - egg

          Tayta - ata, dədə - father

          .......

          Aymara:

          .......

          Alana - almaq - buy

          Phisi - pişik - cat

          Qala - daş qalaq - stone
          1. Karen
            Karen 19 December 2019 18: 26
            0
            Thank. And where can I read from linguists?
            ----
            I remembered that they talked about the skull on Baku TV
            1. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 19 December 2019 22: 10
              0
              You’re talking about the skull. And I’m talking about linguistic similarities, and gave examples. If you read, you don’t understand anything, then linguists will not help either.
              1. Karen
                Karen 19 December 2019 22: 15
                0
                Apparently, this will definitely not help you !!! What I read, it was taken into account, and I said "thank you" in response ...
                And about the skull - he said from what he himself saw on Baku TV ... It told about the coincidence of the type of skulls ... And about the fact that the Indians turned to you for support ... Something I wrote ???
                1. Oquzyurd
                  Oquzyurd 19 December 2019 22: 31
                  0
                  "And about the skull - he told from what he himself saw on Baku TV .." If it's not difficult, give a link, where and how they said, we'll see. But it is impossible to believe this way (from your previous posts I know that you have never had normal argumentation), that you saw somewhere on TV, or something like a conversation, that someone's grandmother was telling, etc. Prove your words about Baku TV.
                  For example, I your trolling (Karen December 16, 2019 17:51 p.m.) answered with the arguments that we have no small similarities in the dictionary that bear the same semantic meanings as Native American. (The skull is similar or not, there is no difference for me, but it is important for you apparently)
                  1. Karen
                    Karen 19 December 2019 22: 38
                    0
                    I saw it not yesterday, so that I remember everything ... That day they also talked about famous cinema and pop figures, who are yours ... About the actor from "Angelica" and musicians - from the Beatles and Queen ...
                    And about the skulls ... This is important ... Zia Buniyatov gave a comparison / difference in the structure of the teeth of the Karabakh people with the Armenians in general ...
                    1. Oquzyurd
                      Oquzyurd 19 December 2019 22: 47
                      0
                      I don’t know how old you are, but I would recommend that you talk about provable things, and not throw words for the sake of denigrating anyone. So everyone can, if they want to of course. For example, now I can write anything about you and say that it was a long time ago, I don’t remember which TV, but it was definitely it. But this makes no sense if I don’t prove it, at least with a link, or with a video clip from YouTube. Also, your conversations now look like a dummy, thrown into the wind.
                      1. Karen
                        Karen 19 December 2019 22: 49
                        0
                        Oguz, I saw this dozens of years ago ... I saw it myself ... Not a retelling ... And I see nothing bad in this plot ... Nothing blackening ...
                        _________
                        I recently read that in Peru they saw Indians whose language is similar to Armenian ... I think that skulls can be similar ... And so what? It could be ...
                      2. Oquzyurd
                        Oquzyurd 19 December 2019 23: 42
                        0
                        "Peru saw the Indians, whose language is similar to Armenian .." Who would doubt lol
                        I gave examples of how their language is similar to ours.
                        You also give an example that their language is similar to yours.
                        At the expense of argumentation, this is not only your problem, but also of the whole Armenians, at the expense of the evidence base for the territories, history in general, "genocide", etc. You talk a lot, write a lot, but when it comes to arguments, documents ... somehow you manage to show nothing to drive your own, like as you wrote above, "I saw this dozens of years ago", "Recently read" "Zia Buniyatov cited the comparison "" I saw it myself on Baku TV ", etc. This is some kind of nightmare, and you think so, you can believe everything?
                      3. Karen
                        Karen 19 December 2019 23: 54
                        0
                        Where I read Buniyatov, I refer to him ... Where I read in passing, I do not log ...
                        Believing, not believing is not my problem ... Wherever confirmation is needed - there will be, but wherever in passing - I see no reason ...
  13. Altai72
    Altai72 16 December 2019 08: 01
    +7
    Apparently American citizens have forgotten:
    In 1786, the United States and the Ottoman Empire signed the first agreement in the Mediterranean. Under the agreement, the United States received permission from the Sultan to use Moroccan ports for American ships.
    In 1795, the first US President, George Washington, sent an American delegation led by Joseph Donaldson to Algeria to persuade local ruler Hassan Pasha to sign a trade agreement.
    According to the signed Agreement on Friendship and Peace, America has committed to:
    - pay a fine for the arrested US military and ships in the amount of 642 US dollars. This amount belonged to Algeria;
    - annually pay the tax (tribute) of the Ottoman Empire in the amount of 21 US dollars. Congress approved the agreement on March 600, 7. Thus, the United States officially began to pay tribute to the Ottoman Empire.
    In 1797, the Bay of Tripoli, Yusuf Pasha, also received from the United States a payment of 40 Spanish gold coins for the ransom of American soldiers.
    It is noteworthy that the Ottoman Empire, represented by Sultan Selim III, obliged the United States to sign an agreement in Arabic (Ottoman), and for dates and time conditions Hijra (Muslim time) was used.
    The Ottoman Empire was the only country to which the United States had ever paid tribute.
    1. Karen
      Karen 16 December 2019 08: 40
      -4
      To me, that agreement clearly shows that with this sauce the state kibbutz organized the financing of its eternal military ally the Ottoman Empire at the expense of the North American taxpayer ...
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 16 December 2019 11: 05
        +4
        State Kibbutz, Moscow Kibbutz, New Khazaria - all for the sake of harming Armenia, which by the human development index is between Thailand and Macedonia, and by GDP per capita - by Jordan and Swaziland fellow
        It’s not funny yourself, ahperjan?
      2. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 16 December 2019 17: 38
        0
        "That treaty clearly shows me" Shows the skills of the Turks to create and manage a great state. Turkey, a country of brave and loyal people, ...
        1. Karen
          Karen 16 December 2019 17: 45
          -5
          Shows the ability of the Jews to manipulate ...
          By the way, Erdogan's recent "gnawing" at Macron ... No one likes to be under the pressure of commitments ... It was France that armed Kemal against the Greeks and the British, against Bolshevism ...
          Otherwise, only with the help of the Bolshevik evil spirits, Kemal could not have turned around like that ... The French then saved the Turks from reprisal ... Today Erdogan shook off the burden of debt to France ...
          Oghuz, have long been discussing Jewish deeds in Europe to the glory of the Turkish-Jewish tandem ...
          1. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 16 December 2019 23: 15
            +2
            Your analysis suggests that you are taking "Armenicum." Otherwise, you cannot get away from logic and truth to such an absurdity.
            1. Karen
              Karen 17 December 2019 02: 52
              -3
              You yourself would have to accept something from narcissism ... The greatness of the Ottoman Empire, which it had reached by the middle of the 17th century, went downstream after that, and after a hundred years nothing was left from its former power, due to the technological breakthrough of Europe ... And further success was only due to the manipulation of the Jewish component of your tandem ... Let me remind you only recently: when the Austrians opposed the admission of Turks to the European Union, a call from Washington followed, and the Jewish protege Lisa Rise forced their authorities to soften ... Yes, that the Austrians are still leading the transfer of military technology to Turkey ...
  14. Dikson
    Dikson 16 December 2019 08: 14
    -2
    And some people say all the time: We won’t respond to sanctions in a mirror way - and raises these sanctions more and more deeply .. that’s all politics ..
  15. Altai72
    Altai72 16 December 2019 08: 19
    +7
    To remind Americans and Europeans of their human zoos, otherwise they imagined themselves to be the cradle of civilization ...


    https://lolkek.me/picture/1785799
    1. Gray-haired Zinnik
      Gray-haired Zinnik 16 December 2019 11: 24
      0
      It would not be superfluous to recall about bikini atolls
  16. Livonetc
    Livonetc 16 December 2019 08: 23
    +2
    Quote: Maki Avellevich
    Quote: Vladimir16
    Koreans, Vietnamese, Serbs (Yugoslavia), Iraqis, Libyans, Germans in Dresden, and we will not forget the Japanese I nuclear fire.

    Well, the Japanese and Germans at that time had already been so genocidal themselves that you can safely remove them from this list of victims.

    Those who needed to be removed, most of them back then, were either completely removed or isolated for a long time.
    And the list of victims of civilians from Hiroshima and Nagasaki was replenished after the war.
    And the civilian population of Germany, who died in the massive bombing of absolute civilian objects in the Second World War by the Western Allies, has nothing to cover.
    By the way, in the USA, they treated the Nazis and are now very loyal.
    Since they themselves are not far away.
  17. Prisoner
    Prisoner 16 December 2019 08: 26
    +2
    About the genocide of the Indians, he moved it strongly. Although pins on this spit. But Ingerlik and Kureggik is painful. They may, with all the mattress dope, try to stir up Coup-2.
  18. Evil 55
    Evil 55 16 December 2019 08: 32
    0
    But that was the number ..
  19. cniza
    cniza 16 December 2019 08: 45
    +1
    It is important for us that the United States does not take measures in bilateral relations that cannot be remedied. But we are ready to answer sanctions. We will discuss and decide everything. If necessary, we are ready to close Incirlik and Kureggik bases for the US military.


    A big "fight" is planned, but rather it will be hidden under the carpet.
  20. saveall
    saveall 16 December 2019 09: 07
    +3
    Still, what a dirty business a politician ... Everyone knows that the genocide of Armenians was, and even more so, the genocide of the indigenous population of North America, but all this becomes the subject of games recognized - not recognized. As if if someone does not recognize him, then the very fact of genocide will disappear from history ...
  21. Private-K
    Private-K 16 December 2019 09: 29
    0
    Quote: Tank jacket
    The most interesting thing is that the Trump team is achieving this. They need a smooth landing of the United States to the level of a regional power. The closure of two bases in Turkey is a step towards this goal.

    This opinion has the right to exist, but the "regional power", after all, is too little for the United States. Rather, Trump is pursuing a policy for the United States of increasing independence, autonomy in the production of everything, straightening the financial system (reducing the share of financiers' capital) and, most importantly, depriving the international financial international of power.
    And the Inzhirlik base is like in Europe the Ramstein base is very, well, very important. key, support. To lose it in this region is to pinch our own eggs.
    1. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 16 December 2019 10: 49
      0
      Closing the base will be just right, there is no money ...% The rates are zero ... Reformatting with a section of influence and responsibility for peace between the Russian Federation, China and the USA.
    2. Fat
      Fat 16 December 2019 13: 10
      0
      Quote: Private-K
      This opinion has the right to exist, but the "regional power", after all, is too little for the United States. Rather, Trump is pursuing a policy for the United States of increasing independence, autonomy in the production of everything, straightening the financial system (reducing the share of financiers' capital) and, most importantly, depriving the international financial international of power.

      Well, a full return to the Monroe Doctrine (America for the Americans) is almost impossible, and not obvious. Too many interests all over the planet however
  22. Pavel57
    Pavel57 16 December 2019 10: 27
    0
    Erdogan is a real macho.
  23. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 16 December 2019 11: 23
    +1
    The process is running, the recognition of genocide against the Indians!
    It will be more fun further, along the chain of satellites they begin to raise their heads and spit on mattress covers!
  24. wmn5500
    wmn5500 16 December 2019 14: 36
    +1
    It seems the "parade of genocides" is starting! Wouldn't the recognition of one genocide be drawn to the recognition of many others? What happened next? I am afraid the consequences of these rash confessions for humanity will be catastrophic! Once I read how one of the famous Armenian journalists proudly called the Armenians the gravediggers of empires, I'm afraid now they may already become the gravediggers of the entire planet! Hope I'm wrong.
    1. no better place for
      no better place for 16 December 2019 20: 57
      +1
      That's right, they put a hand to the death of Byzantium, the Ottomans, too, then the scoop
      1. wmn5500
        wmn5500 16 December 2019 21: 10
        0
        Actually, it was said about a conspiracy with the Arabs during their conquests when the Sassanid Empire fell. And about RI, they say it was revenge for the fact that Nicholas 2 took away property from the Armenian church in 1903. So I say that these grave diggers can already become grave diggers of all mankind. There are no sinless people!
  25. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 16 December 2019 22: 27
    +1
    "According to the Turkish President, Ankara in response may recognize the genocide of the Indians in America."
    But this is a turn! Brave, powerful! ... Well done, though a parasite !. In our country, only Comrade Zhirinovsky has the right to speak. Not on behalf of the Kremlin, of course.
    Take a look, so to speak, without looking at the faces, in the face.
    The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
  26. iouris
    iouris 18 December 2019 15: 15
    0
    Not only the genocide of the Indians, but also the total destruction of the bison - the food base of the Indians.