Strategic Missile Forces commander spoke about preparations for rearmament at the Sarmat RS-28

On the eve of the 60 anniversary of the Strategic Missile Forces, the commander of the troops, Colonel General Sergei Karakaev, spoke about his immediate plans. One of the tasks facing the troops today is to increase the combat potential through modernization.

In an interview with the departmental publication Krasnaya Zvezda, Colonel General Karakaev announced that preparations were under way at the Strategic Missile Forces for rearmament to Sarmat missile systems.

According to the commander of the Strategic Missile Forces, these missile systems will be the first to receive the regiment of the Uzhur missile compound (62-I missile division, Krasnoyarsk Territory) as part of the troops. Today, “Sarmat” undergoes flight tests.

General Karakaev noted that the Sarmat missile system is "fully prepared for military alert."

Earlier it was reported that the placement of the Sarmat Republic of Kazakhstan on combat duty in the Armed Forces of the country will begin in the 2021 year.

Sarmat is a unique missile system. According to the plans of the Ministry of Defense, it will be used to modernize the Strategic Missile Forces with the replacement of strategic missiles "Voivode". RS-28 "Sarmat" has a range of up to 18 thousand km. At the same time, the combat base is a separable warhead with a set of BIN - individual guidance blocks. According to the latest data, a rocket has more than 10 BIN. It is noted that these are new generation hypersonic blocks.

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[Uncle lee]

Tomorrow is the anniversary of the Strategic Missile Forces!

[svp67]

Well then, WITH A COMING HOLIDAY.

Sarmat is a unique missile system. According to the plans of the Ministry of Defense, it will be used to modernize the Strategic Missile Forces with the replacement of strategic missiles "Voivode".

Well yes. In the current situation, a missile launched outside the borders of the Fatherland must be abandoned and transferred to its own

[bessmertniy]

Yesterday it was necessary. That everything was ours, from our components and with our assembly. Now it will be more reliable.

[kebeskin]

And so that there would not be similar situations this year with the explosion of warehouses with ammunition in the city of Achinsk (Krasnoyarsk Territory). And then Kuzkin’s mother will be shown the first thing for her.

[Vladimir_2U]

According to the latest data, a rocket has more than 10 BIN Mom dear, this is not even a "bus", this is some kind of electric train!

[bayard]

Voevoda had the same amount - 14 BB for the full set initially, and 10 BB after the signing of SALT / SALT-2 (limited according to the contract).
750 kT. every BB.

[Vladimir_2U]

Something is not mentioned anywhere more than 10 BB.

[bayard]

10 BB was (and is) on "Voyevods" according to the SALT-1 \ SALT-2 agreement - there is a limit on the number of warheads on one missile - 10 pcs.
And the R-36M2 was originally planned and tested specifically for 14 warheads with maximum equipment. With means to overcome missile defense.
And the source is the speech of Leonid Brezhnev at ... it seems the 25th Congress. I wrote an essay on this topic in the mid-80s, at the first department (of Marxism-Leninism), and I quoted Brezhnev fairly, so I remembered ... Well, later, I had Southern communication with the designers of the Design Bureau, they confirmed. They said that due to the saving of the payload, they strengthened the means of breaking through missile defense.
R-36 was generally a unique rocket. Monoblock combat charge was: for the ballistic version - 25 Mt. , for orbital - 20 Mt. (this could attack the USA through the south pole).

[Vladimir_2U]

I don’t want to use letters, but it’s

Quote: bayard

And the source is the speech of Leonid Brezhnev at ... it seems the 25th congress

very weak confirmation.

[bayard]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

very weak confirmation.

Report of the head of the Superpower?
At the main forum of the Soviet Union?
In a report on a military theme, namely, about new ICBMs?

Do you know anything about the Soviet Union (I don’t ask "remember?")? About the realities of life in it?
And the Congress of the CPSU is not EdRra Congress for you, there they were responsible for their words.
In addition, this information can be found in the descriptions of the history of the creation of this line of missiles (R-36).
Not tabular data, namely the history of creation.
In addition, I met this information (about 14 BB for the initial version of the R-36M2) in many other sources and periodicals of that time. This was very actively expressed on the eve of the signing of SALT-2 and the INF Treaty in the central press - Pravda, Izvestia, Krasnaya Zvezda. It was PUBLIC KNOWN.
And in the end, I wrote to you:

Quote: bayard

Well, later, with the designers of the Design Bureau, Southern communication had, confirmed. They said that due to saving payload they strengthened the means of breaking through missile defense

I knew many of them. Including the chief designer of the breeding stage (the most difficult part) of the Molodets rocket - the one that is based on the railway.
And it seems to me that your "disbelief" is from laziness, this is probably even written in Wikipedia.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: bayard

And the Congress of the CPSU is not EdRra Congress for you, there they were responsible for their words

Are you responsible for your memory? There is nothing about 14 BB in Wiki: there is only: Monoblock head:
"Light" combat unit with a capacity of 8 MT
"Heavy" combat unit with a capacity of 20 MT
Separating warhead with individual guidance blocks:
RGCH IN with ten uncontrolled warheads with a capacity of 800 Kt each
RGCH IN mixed configuration consisting of six unguided warheads with a capacity of 800 Kt and four guided warheads with a capacity of 150 Kt with a homing system on terrain maps

Mention of 14 and even 20 BBs only in this form, and this is not Wiki:

Complex "Ikar", rocket R-36M3 / 15A18M2 (project)
A fifth generation heavy intercontinental ballistic missile. The preliminary design of the rocket and the complex was developed in the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau (Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine) under the leadership of Academician of the USSR Academy of Sciences VF Utkin in 1991. Work on the project was discontinued in 1991-1992. Some sources cite the SALT-2 negotiations as the reason for the termination of development, but most likely there were several reasons. It is also impossible not to take into account a certain nationalization of the development of ICBMs for the Strategic Missile Forces of Russia.
In some of the literature, the 15A18M2 index is mistakenly referred to as the R-36M2 missile. Also, the index 15A19 is sometimes mistakenly attributed to the Ikar project .....
Combat equipment:
- 14-20 RGCH IN in various combinations - estimated data
Status: USSR / Russia - an advance project was developed, further work was not carried out.

Quote: bayard

And it seems to me that your "disbelief" is from laziness, this is probably even written on Wikipedia

It seems to me that your confidence in your words is from a weak memory, and from mixed memories. Oh about the inability to use search engines and say nothing. So you are closer to EdRo than you will be to the CPSU.

[bayard]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

It seems to me that your confidence in your words is from a weak memory, and from mixed memories.

Young man, I'm not so old as to have memory problems. My military specialization is an officer in the combat control of the country's air defense. Therefore, the means of aerospace attack, this is just my profile - I fought with them. And I also have an idea about our means of nuclear deterrence.
You are clearly told that the payload of the R-36M2 allowed you to have 14 BB with a capacity of 750 Kt. and work on this modification took quite a while. At the time of Brezhnev's report to the congress, tests continued, including with the indicated number of BBs. At the same time, work was underway in the USA on the MX ICBMs with 10 warheads with a power of about 600 ct. each . Negotiations were also underway on the reduction of strategic offensive weapons, since the arsenal of these already ten times exceeded a sufficient amount of guaranteed destruction of each other. Therefore, when adopting the R-36M2, it was decided to put no more than 10 BBs - the same amount as on the MX. We surpassed the United States in terms of impact capabilities. Only ICBMs were in service 1750 pieces. , on submarines - 950 pcs. (in the USA - 1050 and 600, respectively), not to mention the power of the warheads themselves. Only in strategic bombers did they surpass us, and by a multiple, at the end of the 80s - 700 against 50.
So limiting the number of BBs to 10 was a kind of gesture of condescension and an invitation to negotiate, because there was no longer any benefit from continuing the race ... except for harm. At the same time, the possibility of retrofitting even standing missiles in service with additional blocks remained. Purely technical. And this was also an argument in the negotiations ...
But then Gorbachev came to power and surrendered everything.

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Oh about the inability to use search engines and say nothing.

I don’t need it, I remember all the numbers without any reference. I advised you to broaden your horizons.
And do not be offended by the words about "laziness", because it was enough to hammer a question into a search engine and you will immediately receive hundreds of links - check it out.
And it’s not at all about the number of possible warheads. With such an abandoned weight (8,8 tons), there could have been several dozen of them, and in the ability to put them all on target in such a short time - there is only one breeding stage, warheads do not have their own engines.

And about the R-36M3 version with 14 - 20 BB ... maybe this is at the request of the Chief of the General Staff for inflicting area attacks on the AUG and areas of combat deployment of enemy nuclear submarines - there was such an idea ... kind of "crazy", but in case of total wars are quite working.

[Vladimir_2U]

In addition to your words

Quote: bayard

And do not be offended by the words about "laziness", because it was enough to hammer a question into the search engine and you will immediately receive hundreds of links - check it out.

That is, the examples I have given are nothing, but your empty opuses a la "Where does the threat to the world come from", without any example - this is the last instance, yes.

Quote: bayard

And do not be offended by the words about "laziness", because it was enough to hammer a question into the search engine and you will immediately receive hundreds of links - check it out.

Give at least one link about about 14 BB on the Governor. There are hundreds of them! I brought here.

[bayard]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Give at least one link about about 14 BB on the Governor. There are hundreds of them! I brought here.

What for ?
Why should I do the work for you?
I knew about this and I know almost the entire conscious life. It was in the public domain and was mentioned in many publications - from thick books of a military-historical nature to the periodicals of those years. In addition, I have repeatedly talked on this subject with designers and engineers (in the rank of shop managers) of Yuzhnoye Design Bureau ...
For me, THESE sources are much more accurate than what you bring from Wikipedia and from the statues of journalists without not only a specialized, but even just an engineering education.
Understand, in my city (where I lived) there was the best test bench for rocket technology in the Soviet Union. And the best solid-fuel missiles in the world at that time were produced there - the RS-23 Molodets missiles. In my life, apart from belles-lettres, there was live communication with people involved in this topic. They were my neighbors and even friends.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: bayard

What for ?
Why should I do the work for you?
I knew about this and I know almost the entire conscious life.

This kind of demagogy and demagogy is one of the causes of the death of the USSR

Quote: bayard

It was in the public domain and was mentioned in many publications - from thick books of a military-historical nature to the periodicals of those years

Most of the more or less serious open publications and even a lot of chipboards have been digitized and posted! For example, "Foreign Military Review" already for 70-shaggy years is:
http://www.zvo.su/
So "proofs or balabol"!

Quote: bayard

For me, THESE sources are much more accurate than what you bring from Wikipedia and from the statues of journalists without not only a specialized, but even just an engineering education.

Demagogue!

[Operator]

The Voevoda could also lift more than 14 BB, depending on their weight and the weight of the means of overcoming missile defense, for example, a 250-Ktn charge weighs 130 kg, and the total weight of Voevoda's combat equipment is 8 tons.

10 BB is a legal limitation on START-1.

[Vladimir_2U]

The development of the third-generation strategic missile system R-36M UTTH (GRAU index - 15P018, START code - RS-20B, according to the classification of the United States and NATO - SS-18 Mod.4) with the 15A18 missile equipped with a 10-block multiple warhead began August 16, 1976.
On September 18, 1979, three missile regiments began on combat duty at the new missile system. As of 1987, 308 ICBMs R-36M UTX were deployed as part of five missile divisions https://www.arms-expo.ru/articles/armed-forces/rvsn-strategicheskiy-raketnyy-kompleks-shakhtnogo-bazirovaniya-s-raketami-r-36m-15a14-r-36mu-15a18-r/
(START-1 Treaty) was signed on July 31, 1991 in Moscow during the summit of the presidents of the USSR and the USA, Mikhail Gorbachev and George W. Bush, and entered into force on December 5, 1994. Soviet power was strong, it was able to warn designers in 1976, already from 1991!

Quote: Operator

The CTN charge weighs 130 kg, and the total weight of the Voevoda's combat equipment is 8 tons.

And how much does BB weigh at 750 Kt? I think more, and throwing weight is not only BB:
1. The casting weight shown in the flight test of an ICBM or SLBM is:
a) in relation to an ICBM or SLBM, the last stage of which carries out the operation of re-launching warheads, the total weight of this stage, including its fuel and elements that cannot be separated from this stage, at the time of the first separation of the warhead or means of overcoming the defense, as well as its payload;
https://online.zakon.kz/Document/?doc_id=1016345#pos=3;-69

[Operator]

So the point is that warheads are different in power / mass, therefore, in piece terms, the actual (not negotiated / credited) combat equipment of the "Voevoda" floats from forty 250-Ktn to one 25-Mtn BB.

Plus, the presence / absence of anti-missile defense systems in the combat equipment, which in Soviet times ranged from zero to 50% of the total mass of combat equipment (depending on the purpose for which a specific ICBM was aimed).

For "Sarmat" one more variable is added - the range to the target (from 11000 km or more), to which a specific ICBM will be directed.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Operator

swims from forty 250-ctn

Oh, nonsense, even if you count your 130 kg (where is the heat and physical protection?) 40 bb is only 5200 kg in weight, but what about the placement platform, BB dilution equipment? Yes, it’s not like weight, there’s not enough volume! Even if you do not think about false goals and other means of overcoming missile defense. The reality here is not even parallel.

[Operator]

250-Ktn charge weighing 130 kg corresponds to a 200-kg warhead. The weight of the multi-tier stage of breeding without warheads and a range of missile defense systems can be estimated at 2 tons, the weight of the anti-missile defense system - at 2 tons. The result is a quantity of 250-ctn charges of forty units.

False targets are part of the PCB PRO.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Operator

250-Ktn charge weighing 130 kg corresponds to a 200-kg warhead. The weight of the multi-tier stage of breeding without warheads and a range of missile defense systems can be estimated at 2 tons, the weight of the anti-missile defense system - at 2 tons. The result is a quantity of 250-ctn charges of forty units.

40 to 200 is 8 tons! And somehow raise 4 tons.

[Operator]

I’m sorry - twenty BB.

[Vladimir_2U]

I apologize for confusing OSV-2 and START-1, however, this does not change much, because:
On June 18, 1979, during the Vienna Summit, this document was signed.
https://armscontrol.ru/course/rsf/p6.htm

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Give at least one link about about 14 BB on the Governor.

Ballistic missile "Satan" SS-18 (R-36M) - 30.04.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX

R-36M missiles in various modifications can carry from 1 to 10 (in some cases up to 16) warheads with a total mass (with a breeding unit and a head fairing) up to 8,8 thousand kg over a distance of over 10 thousand km.

https://warbook.club/boepripasy/rakety/satana/ -
The most powerful weapon of the 20th century is the Satan rocket - the first comments from 12-07-2018

The final project of the R-36M included 4 types of warheads:
single-unit warhead 15F171 with BB 15F172 - power more than 20 Mt;
RGCH 15F173 includes 10 uncontrolled high-speed combat warheads (BB) 15F174 - each with a power of more than 0,8 Mt;
ГЧ 15Ф175 with “light” BB 15F176 - power about 8,3 Mt;
Separating warhead 15F177 with six unguided BB 15F174 and four guided BB 15F178.
There were other developments, but they did not reach the series.

[Vladimir_2U]

Are you Bayard?

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Combat equipment:
- 14-20 RGCH IN in various combinations - estimated data
Status: USSR / Russia - an advance project was developed, further work was not carried out.

Quote: Starover_Z

R-36M missiles in various modifications can carry from 1 to 10 (in some cases up to 16)

I posted such a link, and even more specifically.

[voyaka uh]

Sarmat will be put in the same mines. Where the Voivode will be taken from. Missiles of the same size and with approximately the same performance characteristics. This is a necessary replacement because the Governor has expired. For several years now they have been without warheads (due to an agreement with the States - so that Poplars can be replaced by multi-unit Yars).

[bayard]

Quite right, "Sarmat" is the reincarnation of the "Voevoda" at a new historical and technical level. There even the first stage engine seems to be the same as that of the R-36M2. A heavy ICBM with a large number of heavy AP is a missile for a retaliatory strike ... For a preventive strike, it is even better.

[Topol M]

Happy holiday dear rocket launchers!

[kit88]

Range of 18 km.
The length of the equator is 40 km.
Taking into account the size of the Russian Federation, this means that there are no 'white spots' left on Earth, wherever the hand of the Strategic Missile Forces reaches out? If so, then this case should be noted.

[Operator]

18 thousand km - declared suborbital range. Varying the number of warheads, you can provide a range of 40 thousand km (the so-called shooting through the South Pole).

[Kettle]

The range of our ICBMs over 12 km is practically unrealizable, it seems. The long range indicated in the performance characteristics can characterize the mass-energy capabilities of the rocket.
All of our ICBMs, taking into account the location of their areas of location / basing / patrolling, do not see targets at ranges of over 11 km. All of America is basically 000-8 km. All of their Minutemans are very close, near the northern border with Canada. The base with SSBNs - one very close, the other not far.
If we look at the farthest, southern parts of the USA - Texas, Florida, and shoot at them from the most uncomfortable, distant "corner" - then 12 km is quite enough. In principle, there is a trampo-Mexican wall, underground passages of drug lords, the American real estate of our bugs - you can shandarahnut.
Canada, Europe - the entire NATO militaristic bloc - closer. All more or less worthy American bases are closer. China, Japan, Middle Eastern comrades are closer. Alaska can be thrown grenades through the strait.
For whom to fire missiles at 15 km - in Pele and Maradona? 000 18 km - idols of Easter Island. 000 km - exclusively penguins, southern polar explorers and about to thaw, if Greta doesn’t interfere, secret German ice-covered airfields with flying saucers.
Orbital rockets, perhaps, had some sense in the era before the active propagation of early detection satellites. Now - for what? ...
An ordinary ICBM, or rather, those various units under its fairing, fly to a range of 10 km in about 000 minutes. Let 30 minutes for detecting a start and calculating the trajectory, 5 minutes for fainting, panic and decision making, 5 minutes for announcing an alarm. There is a plus or minus bast shoe for 5 minutes to run away or bury.
The orbital rocket will travel exactly 30 km to the same point; even if not 000 times longer due to the larger share of the “high-speed” transatmospheric trajectory, but roughly an hour and a half. The Americans, in no hurry, will collect photographs, credit cards, and business cards from the tables in cardboard boxes — what they usually collect in films, drink coffee, and in traffic in their Chryslers and Dodges will drive them away from the apocalypse into the desert, into the pampas. They will have more than an hour guaranteed time.
And our orbital rocket, not only that, which will keep up with hat analysis, will also bring less useful aggregates than its ordinary colleague.
P.S. And to shoot at 40 km is exactly a crossbow, delayed for 000 hours.

[hydrox]

Please explain that war is necessarily killing people?
And why is there so much regret in your calculations that people can escape death?
Why, if you, relying on the official ideology of the United States, consider unacceptable losses precisely in the millions of victims?
Who taught you that unacceptable damage cannot consist in a dead economy, destroyed infrastructure, inoperative means of providing for life's needs, and only tens of millions of corpses?
Are you a liberoid? Or a fascist?

[hydrox]

I understood!
You are a democrat!

[Paranoid50]

Quote: kit88

it should be noted.

FOR THIS CASE - not a sin on Monday, in the morning. (I do not provoke, sincerely support).

[Dzafdet]

More than 10, how much? 24 do not want to? Well, if you undertook to write about it, then take the trouble to collect all the information ...

[Operator]

"Bus" - FSE

[Vladimir61]

... Colonel General Karakaev said that the Strategic Missile Forces are in full swing preparing for rearmament at Sarmat missile systems

Not a supporter of confrontation, but while in the western flock of stray dogs, even the political mongrel, which can only be found on the map with a magnifying glass, shout that Russia is an enemy, owes something to someone, while some have eyes on the territory and the resources of Russia, the implementation of such promises, I will wait no less than the realization of my own personal desires!

[Old26]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Something is not mentioned anywhere more than 10 BB.

The "Voevoda" breeding stage is a two-story building. Each floor has 7 seats. But as the comrade correctly wrote, according to the SALT-2 agreement, a limitation was introduced - 10 BB for ICBMs and 14 BB for SLBMs

Quote: bayard

10 BB was (and is) on "Voyevods" according to the SALT-1 \ SALT-2 agreement - there is a limit on the number of warheads on one missile - 10 pcs.
And the R-36M2 was originally planned and tested specifically for 14 warheads with maximum equipment. With means to overcome missile defense.
And the source is the speech of Leonid Brezhnev at ... it seems the 25th Congress. I wrote an essay on this topic in the mid-80s, at the first department (of Marxism-Leninism), and I quoted Brezhnev fairly, so I remembered ... Well, later, I had Southern communication with the designers of the Design Bureau, they confirmed. They said that due to the saving of the payload, they strengthened the means of breaking through missile defense.
R-36 was generally a unique rocket. Monoblock combat charge was: for the ballistic version - 25 Mt. , for orbital - 20 Mt. (this could attack the USA through the south pole).

I apologize for the literary criticism, but you, comrade here, mixed everything in one bottle. The R-36 was indeed a unique missile, but it never had 10 BBs. R-36, it’s 8K67 in the 8K67P version had only THREE 8 Mt 677F2,3 warheads on an 8K676-type cassette (hating, scattering) RGC. In the version of the orbital missile, it had a combat unit 8F673 with a control compartment 8F021 with a capacity of 2,3 MT. According to American data, the power of this OBCH was from 5 to 6 Mt, but not 20

The R-36M2 rocket, aka 15A18M or Voevoda, was actually planned with 14 BB (a "two-story" stage of breeding for 7 seats), but the OSV-1979 agreement concluded in 2 "reduced" the number of BB to 10. The remaining 4 landing seats have been converted to heavy decoys. But it was no longer possible to put warheads on them ...

Quote: voyaka uh

Sarmat will be put in the same mines. Where the Voivode will be taken from. Missiles of the same size and with approximately the same performance characteristics. This is a necessary replacement because the Governor has expired. For several years now they have been without warheads (due to an agreement with the States - so that Poplars can be replaced by multi-unit Yars).

Yes, to the mines from Voevoda, but hardly without modernization. Even the replacement of the R-36M UTTH (15A18) products with the R-36M2 (15A18M) nevertheless required the completion of the silo. Not too big, but nonetheless.

Today, “Sarmat” undergoes flight tests.

General Karakaev noted that the Sarmat missile system is "fully prepared for military alert."

The general is disingenuous. So far, there has not been a single flight test of this product. Only throwing. And she said it half a year ago. And then LEEs are coming and the rocket itself is ready for placing on the database

[Vladimir_2U]

Here is the link, bring at least something similar about the one sold in metal at 14 BB:
https://www.arms-expo.ru/articles/armed-forces/rvsn-strategicheskiy-raketnyy-kompleks-shakhtnogo-bazirovaniya-s-raketami-r-36m-15a14-r-36mu-15a18-r/
The only thing that bothers me there: some kind of completely not our picture of the installation of heads.
"Icarus" is no longer "Voevoda"

Quote: Old26

14 BB ("two-story" stage of breeding for 7 seats)

However, the ogival shape of the fairing suggests a smaller "second floor" area.

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: kit88

Range of 18 km.
The length of the equator is 40 km.
Taking into account the size of the Russian Federation, this means that there are no 'white spots' left on Earth, wherever the hand of the Strategic Missile Forces reaches out? If so, then this case should be noted.

This means, taking into account the size of the territory of Russia, covering 9 time zones of the globe, in the direction from west to east, and having the opportunity to set up their starting installations without being embarrassed by neighbors, anywhere .....

[Operator]

Quote: bayard

For proactive, even better

At the appointed time

[Operator]

Quote: hydrox

Is war necessarily killing people?

People are a mobresource that needs to be reduced at least to compare the chances of the Russian Federation with potential opponents (NATO, the USA, China, etc., including those combined).

[Old26]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

The only thing that bothers me there: some kind of completely not our picture of the installation of heads.
"Icarus" is no longer "Voevoda"

Of course not ours. This is the installation of the BB ICBM MX

Quote: Vladimir_2U

However, the ogival shape of the fairing suggests a smaller "second floor" area.

Nevertheless. It is the "two-story" scheme with such an arrangement of the BB (2 x 7)

[Vladimir_2U]

Strange way of answering without responding to comments, but somewhere on the sidelines.