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The United States announced the creation of a rocket capable of overcoming the Russian air defense system

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The United States announced the creation of a rocket capable of overcoming the Russian air defense system

Visualization of a promising tactical missile from Lockheed Martin


The United States has developed a ground-to-ground missile that can easily overcome Russia's air defense system. This statement was made by American General John Rafferty, commenting on the first tests of the tactical missile Precision Strike Missile (PrSM). This was reported by Breaking Defense.

The general said that the rocket developed by Lockheed Martin was primarily designed to overcome Russian air defense in the European theater of operations. In the Asia-Pacific region, this missile will be used to destroy Chinese warships.

On December 10, Lockheed Martin Corp. conducted the first test of the Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) promising tactical missile at the White Sands US missile range in New Mexico. The prototype was launched from the M142 launcher of the HIMARS missile system and flew about 240 km to the target area. The corporation said that "the test was successful with all the set goals."

The Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) program, launched in 2017, involves the creation of a new generation of high-precision operational-tactical missiles with the official initially declared range from 60 to 499 km, but the development was carried out taking into account the US exit from the INF Treaty. According to reports, the rocket is already capable of flying at 550 km, and according to other sources - up to 700-750 km.

In the future, the new missile should replace the Lockheed Martin MGM-140 ATACMS tactical missiles. Serial production is planned for the 2023 year.
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  1. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 15 December 2019 08: 17
    +14
    Most likely this is a chatter and nothing more, it is necessary to somehow respond to Russia with its new weapons.
    1. cost
      cost 15 December 2019 08: 43
      +60
      This is not idle talk, this is another "masterpiece" from translators.
      Originally - "Developed by Lockheed Martin for the US Army, the Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) surface-to-surface missile is likely to be able to penetrate the Russian air defense system, writes Breaking Defense with reference to General John Rafferty. "
      "Developed by company Lockheed Martin for army of the USA rocket Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) a class" earth-earth ", Possibly, can overcome the Russian system of antiaircraft defense

      possibly- it is also in Africa possibly (possibly, probably). Not what the Author writes - the United States has developed a surface-to-surface missile, which can easily overcome the Russian air defense system.
      1. Dmitry Donskoy
        Dmitry Donskoy 15 December 2019 09: 00
        +6
        hi Greetings, namesake. This article follows from the recent (fake) one about the downed Israeli planes, about our air defenses in Syria, about the Caliber accelerated to hypersound. yes
        1. krot
          krot 15 December 2019 09: 15
          +6
          The author is a fake meter ..) There are already enough of them on this resource.
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 15 December 2019 14: 59
            +4
            Isn’t it time for the site’s administration to gather their strength and at least formally (but that EVERYONE knows!) To spoil this face of this fake-style liber-author, since article-translations of such liberoids with feathers become more impudent and annoying for our army hands. There is another place that simply asks that this pen be driven there with all its heart! sad
            1. Amin_vivec
              Amin_vivec 15 December 2019 16: 29
              +2
              Why immediately face that? Probably we need a rating system for each specific author, which will be shown in the title.
              1. hydrox
                hydrox 16 December 2019 12: 47
                -1
                Have you ever wondered why the ratings accrued by patriots and liberals will vary so much for the same author?
                And the ratings accrued by sanity will be very different from both patriotic and Russophobic?
                1. Amin_vivec
                  Amin_vivec 16 December 2019 20: 42
                  +2
                  No, I didn’t ask, but you didn’t ask when you immediately offered to beat the face? although by the way beat)))
            2. Geo⁣
              Geo⁣ 15 December 2019 22: 20
              +1
              Quote: hydrox
              Is it time for the site administration

              The site administration sets itself a few other tasks than you would like to think. Do not overestimate so as not to be disappointed
              1. hydrox
                hydrox 16 December 2019 12: 53
                +1
                I doubt that you were admitted to the chambers in which the editorial policy of the site is being formed, especially at a time when GDP recognized the Russian impasse of the liberoid economy during the collapse of the geopolitical views of the bilderbergs. laughing
                1. Geo⁣
                  Geo⁣ 16 December 2019 21: 36
                  -1
                  Quote: hydrox
                  I doubt that you are admitted to the chambers in which the editorial policy of the site is formed

                  It’s enough just to think a little with your head. The main task is to provide an increase in the function, the curve of which is shown in the figure below.



                  IN a commercial project, with all that it implies: forces are not spent on developing portal infrastructure and a cozy climate, but on expanding the audience and attempting to monetize.
        2. Geo⁣
          Geo⁣ 15 December 2019 12: 53
          -2
          Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
          This article follows from the recent (fake), about the downed Israeli planes,

          The only difference is that the sold Israeli planes are only a matter of the absence of our desire for the time being, and the rocket from the article is a question of the lack of their capabilities. But this is a big difference
      2. knn54
        knn54 15 December 2019 09: 39
        +1
        In 2023 there will be S-500, and maybe S-600.
      3. venik
        venik 15 December 2019 10: 29
        +4
        Quote: Rich
        This is not idle talk, this is another "masterpiece" from translators.

        =======
        good "...The Charter of Translators, Comrade Lifanov, states that translation in the modern world should contribute to a better understanding between nations, and you will only disconnect them with your babble.... "(From the film" Autumn Marathon ") drinks
      4. den3080
        den3080 15 December 2019 14: 56
        0
        besides possibly there is still highly likely :)) English is great and powerful :))
        translators, and even more than aspirations, scribblers need sensations to have likes, clicks, ratings. From a larger number of the latter, in direct proportion, it becomes more satisfying, more comfortable, the shakes warm the thigh more :))
      5. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 15 December 2019 15: 12
        +5
        Quote: Rich
        This is not idle talk, this is another "masterpiece" from translators.

        And what! Given that:
        In the Asia-Pacific region, this missile will be used to defeat the Chinese warships.
        The rocket, it seems, is being created for the US Army ... What does the "ships" have to do with it !?
      6. besser best
        besser best 15 December 2019 21: 06
        +2
        A.S. Pushkin said: "Translators are dummy horses of education." I agree with you 100%.
    2. WIKI
      WIKI 15 December 2019 08: 48
      +4
      The United States has technology to transport a person to anywhere in the world in less than an hour, retired Lieutenant General Stephen Quast said in November. Hard to believe. It remains only to fantasize on this topic.
      1. Tsoy
        Tsoy 15 December 2019 09: 01
        +10
        Quote: WIKI
        The United States has technology to transport a person to anywhere in the world in less than an hour, retired Lieutenant General Stephen Quast said in November. Hard to believe. It remains only to fantasize on this topic.


        Speech about this article.

        https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/31445/recently-retired-usaf-general-makes-eyebrow-raising-claims-about-advanced-space-technology

        I absolutely agree with the commentator above about the abilities of translators. The phrase is taken out of context. Specially followed the link and read the article. A former general in a private lecture said that more money needs to be invested in Space Command to confront China. Further literally: for 33 years I met many scientists. Trust me today there are already technologies that could deliver a person anywhere in the world in an hour. That is, with proper funding, this can be done. This phrase was just an example, but it was all about something else.

        And so in every second news, which is intentionally translated incorrectly to create a certain message.
        1. Polymer
          Polymer 15 December 2019 09: 10
          +2
          If fakes appear, then someone needs this!
        2. WIKI
          WIKI 15 December 2019 09: 35
          -5
          Quote: Choi
          And so in every second news, which is intentionally translated incorrectly to create a certain message.

          I assure you today there are already technologies that could deliver a person to anywhere in the world in an hour. That is, with proper funding, this can be done.
          I don't understand what the "intent" of the translation is. Technologies exist, only funding is needed to implement them.
          1. Tsoy
            Tsoy 15 December 2019 09: 51
            +3
            I don't understand what the "intent" of the translation is. Technologies exist, only funding is needed to implement them.


            Because I personally translated this paragraph. Now read how they write about this in the media.

            Retired US Air Force (Air Force) Lieutenant General Stephen Quast, while delivering a lecture at Hillsdale College, DC, said the United States has technology that can transport a person to anywhere in the world in less than an hour. It is reported by The Drive.


            They have the technology and that in principle it is not the same thing. I repeat, the context is important. And in our "newspapers" they lose it deliberately focusing on a hot phrase for a catchy headline. It doesn't matter that this is outright misinformation.
            1. WIKI
              WIKI 15 December 2019 09: 58
              -2
              In Ushakov's Explanatory Dictionary of 1940, technology is “a set of sciences, information about the methods of processing one or another raw material into a manufactured product, into a finished product; a set of processes for such processing ”. "in principle possible" is not a science, but a fantasy.
              1. Tsoy
                Tsoy 15 December 2019 13: 24
                +1
                Quote: WIKI
                this is not a science, but already a fantasy.


                Yes, fantasy. Authors of articles who think out when translating. What does Ushakov's interpretation of the word "technology" have to do with it, if the context in which this word was used is important?
                1. WIKI
                  WIKI 15 December 2019 14: 54
                  -1
                  And what context?
                  1. Tsoy
                    Tsoy 15 December 2019 18: 13
                    0
                    Quote: WIKI
                    And what context?


                    And where does the technology?
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 15 December 2019 10: 09
        +3
        Quote: WIKI
        The United States has technology to transport a person to anywhere in the world in less than an hour, retired Lieutenant General Stephen Quast said in November. Hard to believe. It remains only to fantasize on this topic.
        This is doubtful. So far, they are good at sending people to the next world.
      3. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 15 December 2019 11: 18
        +2
        Quote: WIKI
        The United States has technology to transport a person to anywhere in the world in less than an hour, retired Lieutenant General Stephen Quast said in November. Hard to believe. It remains only to fantasize on this topic.

        The Taliban dumped “the technology that allows you to transport a person to anywhere on Earth in less than an hour?” Then it is understandable why the Americans do not want to leave Afghanistan. How can they be without such valuable technology?
      4. Harry.km
        Harry.km 15 December 2019 14: 16
        +1
        Quote: WIKI
        The United States has technology to transport people anywhere in the world in less than an hour,

        And our scientists will change the gravitational field of the earth at night and their people will not get to the right point, and America itself will be under water! )))
    3. Baloo
      Baloo 15 December 2019 10: 00
      +1
      Quote: Spartanez300
      Most likely this is a chatter and nothing more, it is necessary to somehow respond to Russia with its new weapons.

      Syria will show
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 15 December 2019 10: 57
        +5
        Self-consolation and bravado are not brought to good. And they will not add allies. So go for it, mattresses! And we'll see. wink
        Big Bear - hello! hi
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 15 December 2019 11: 31
          +1
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          Self-consolation and bravado are not brought to good. And they will not add allies. So go for it, mattresses! And we'll see. wink
          Big Bear - hello! hi

          Hello Pasha! The mattress show continues. Pan Zyuza played his game in a pair with mokrely and micron. GDP, as always on fingers, explained everything to everyone about the truth of life. It’s time to demolish Colonel Trampampam to a major, he is replaying his role there, rude. In general, everything is as always, our armored train is in full readiness. Is it true that something in our Navy is failing, and are there really too many fires?

          1. tracer
            tracer 15 December 2019 16: 31
            -1
            Well, not quite like in the picture with the Bear. In Europe alone, in the case of a naughty man, they will put about 5 million under bayonets. We will hardly be able to argue up to 5 million. NATO has an overwhelming advantage in the land forces of Europe. So "shakozakidatelstvo" is good only when "catching fleas" ...
            1. dvina71
              dvina71 15 December 2019 21: 56
              +2
              At the current level of striking ability, even conventional weapons ... any crowd of armed people are potential corpses. I'm not talking about tactical yao. I have a question .. where will you build the appropriate shelters for the deployment of the millionth group? And two .. well .. we won’t dig .. Well, let's spread a thin layer .. again .. where?
              I have advice .. take an interest in the state of the Wehrmacht defense line, after artillery preparation before the Kishenevo-Yassokoy offensive operation.
              The level of current artillery is an order of magnitude higher ..
              1. tracer
                tracer 16 December 2019 04: 05
                0
                I agree with you, but there are suspicions. Moreover, to all appearances, they will climb to Donbas soon. The Poles are out on a low start ... And if they climb into the Donbas with Lugansk, This will put, as the President of Russia said, a "question" to this misunderstanding called "Ukraine".
  2. svp67
    svp67 15 December 2019 08: 18
    +5
    According to reports, the rocket is now capable of flying 550 km, and according to other sources - up to 700-750 km.
    We didn’t have time to get out of the DRMSD, and the rocket is already there ... Guys, but who were you trying to trick ...?
    It remains for us, so carefully, so as not to show everything, but to demonstrate how our air defense systems land such missiles, tough ...
    1. eklmn
      eklmn 15 December 2019 18: 13
      -3
      So I see your surprised face and bright innocent blue eyes after my own phrase.
      And Vicki has another info:
      “The R-500 (9M728) is a Russian cruise missile designed for the Iskander complex, capable, according to the statement of First Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov, to overcome all existing and promising missile defense systems.
      The development of the R-500 rocket was launched in 1996 by the Yekaterinburg OKB Novator OJSC.
      the R-500 missile is an improved version of the Soviet C-10 Grenade system with a firing range of up to 1,000 kilometers ”
      “The United States claims that the 9M728 / 9M729 (SSC-X-7 / SSC-X-8) cruise missiles used by Iskander-K violate the INF Treaty because their design range exceeds 500 km.”
      1. svp67
        svp67 15 December 2019 18: 47
        +2
        Quote: eklmn
        So I see your surprised face and bright innocent blue eyes after my own phrase.

        Yes, so ... the soothsayer of you is NOT ANYTHING. I don’t have a surprised face, just like I don’t have blue eyes, my mother awarded with karyami ...
        Quote: eklmn
        And Vicki has another info:

        Why is Vicky good that she has now taken on the role of a Russian fence on which you can write anything you want, but what is hidden behind it?
        Quote: eklmn
        used by Iskander-K, violate the INF Treaty, since their design range exceeds 500 km. ”

        And ... that is, American intelligence provided this documentation as evidence? Or is it all at the "high-like" level?
        Quote: eklmn
        The development of the R-500 rocket was launched in 1996 by the Yekaterinburg OKB Novator OJSC.
        the R-500 missile is an improved version of the Soviet C-10 Grenade system with a firing range of up to 1,000 kilometers ”
        Yes, the S-10 is capable of flying at such distances, it is sea-based and does not forbid them anything, but who said that its ground alteration, the R-500, is capable of flying at such a distance? Flying over land, it’s far from the fact that flying over the expanse of the sea and maneuvers have to do more, but it means more fuel is spent, and why we should refuse successful technical solutions when developing new models. No one could prove that the R-500 flew with violations of the INF Treaty.
  3. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 15 December 2019 08: 18
    +11
    The main thing in our time is to make a Loud Statement! wink I - responsibly declare - Yesterday I defeated the All NATO bloc, drawing arrows on the Globe! Only on Antarctica did not have a red felt-tip pen ... penguins can sleep peacefully !!! feel
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 15 December 2019 08: 20
      +1
      On Twitter ...
  4. Starper-xnumx
    Starper-xnumx 15 December 2019 08: 19
    +5
    Well, we will create the next generation of air defense .. That's how we live hehe
    1. mechanic
      mechanic 15 December 2019 08: 27
      -25
      Quote: Starper-777
      Well, we will create the next generation of air defense .. That's how we live hehe

      What generation?) We have "effective managers" every heating season, they all "create" and "create" something, they just can't really do everything! And you mean some kind of air defense :)
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 15 December 2019 08: 35
        +13
        My dear, I forgot to say about pensions.
        Are you longing? Whining a hunt?
        What claims do you have to the creators of the Russian air defense missile defense?
        1. mechanic
          mechanic 15 December 2019 08: 44
          -25
          Quote: Vladimir16
          My dear, I forgot to say about pensions.
          Are you longing? Whining a hunt?
          What claims do you have to the creators of the Russian air defense missile defense?

          No complaints, "dear"! But if they cannot cope with the problems in the heating season every time, and even experiment with pensions, then what kind of missile defense system can we talk about then?
          And I implore you, put your lordly "you" somewhere far away! Somehow not like a man in absentia to a stranger to "poke"
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 15 December 2019 13: 25
            +2
            Quote: mechanic
            in absentia to a stranger

            So it is for a person, not for a freshly bot. There are dozens of such "cyborgs" here every week,
            both appear and fall off, after diving into the "skull". yes
      2. Tusv
        Tusv 15 December 2019 08: 50
        +5
        Quote: mechanic
        And you are talking about some kind of air defense there :)

        Is this the one we affectionately call the Semi-Military Organization? So she is very toothy and has very decent weapons, including aviation. And her belly is insatiable, only fly up where it should not, eat and do not choke
        1. mechanic
          mechanic 15 December 2019 08: 53
          -13
          Quote: Tusv
          Quote: mechanic
          And you are talking about some kind of air defense there :)

          Is this the one we affectionately call the Semi-Military Organization? So she is very toothy and has very decent weapons, including aviation. And her belly is insatiable, only fly up where it should not, eat and do not choke

          So where did the decryption of the missile defense go? )))
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 15 December 2019 08: 57
            +3
            Quote: mechanic
            So where did the decryption of the missile defense go? )))

            Well it is. Tribute to fashion. All targets are still airy
            1. mechanic
              mechanic 15 December 2019 09: 20
              -19
              Quote: Tusv
              Quote: mechanic
              So where did the decryption of the missile defense go? )))

              Well it is. Tribute to fashion. All targets are still airy


              It remains only to load all this "missile defense" on the Buryat aircraft carrier))

              https://newbur.ru/n/43289/
              1. Tusv
                Tusv 15 December 2019 09: 58
                +3
                Quote: mechanic
                It remains only to load all this "missile defense" on the Buryat aircraft carrier))

                "Load oranges in barrels" (Ilf and Petrov), and Russia itself is an aircraft carrier. There is also a Buryat deck feel
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      3. cost
        cost 15 December 2019 09: 00
        +4
        mechanic (Mechanic): We have "every heating season of something there everyone" creates "and" creates "

        1. mechanic
          mechanic 15 December 2019 09: 05
          -16
          Quote: Rich
          mechanic (Mechanic): We have "effective managers" every heating season of something there everyone "creates" and "creates"


          So until June 22, 1941, too, everything and everyone was simple and clear.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 15 December 2019 17: 17
            +1
            Against such attacks, Russia has the S300V4 just designed to intercept such OTRK and BRDS
            Yes, and 400ki have similar capabilities.
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 15 December 2019 08: 27
    -4
    Is it weak to conduct tests, real ones, against our anti-missile defense systems? I am sure that for the boastful Yankees it will end in failure!
    1. Voyager
      Voyager 15 December 2019 08: 39
      -5
      And if not, guess whose fiasco will be?
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 15 December 2019 08: 45
        +2
        Voyager - are we going to read daisies or blow on the water? This missile has characteristics similar to our Iskander, supersonic, with a range of up to 700 km, for the S300 PMU2 "favorite target" !!!
        1. Voyager
          Voyager 15 December 2019 09: 14
          +1
          I prefer to carefully analyze and not make hasty conclusions.

          Now to the point. Firstly, we do not know either its exact characteristics or the features of its anti-missile defense technologies. All that is known is that it is being created taking into account our defensive weapons.
          And secondly, you wrote very correctly about your favorite target in quotation marks, because the S-300 of various iterations have not yet proved themselves in practice. This does not mean that they work poorly or are not effective, but I would not argue with such confidence how you do it. Intercepting missiles is always very difficult, especially those whose characteristics are not even known approximately.
          1. Thrifty
            Thrifty 15 December 2019 10: 02
            -1
            Voyager -700 km range, and a ground launch, it is dangerous to us only if the United States places them en masse in ukroine, under our borders! Only in this case, we will be obliged to destroy them immediately, despite the howl of "all progressive humanity"!
          2. tatarin1972
            tatarin1972 15 December 2019 16: 26
            0
            I agree, provided that our missile defense is currently considered the strongest in the world, and we do not know all the exact performance characteristics as they are. What can they oppose? Improved EW or maneuvering warhead.
            1. Vyacheslav Viktorovich
              Vyacheslav Viktorovich 15 December 2019 18: 02
              -1
              Quote: tatarin1972
              provided that our missile defense is currently considered the strongest in the world

              Alas, to be honest, we still lag behind. One of the most difficult tasks that demonstrate the perfection of missile defense systems at the moment is a missile strike to destroy a satellite in orbit (and a satellite is a model of a warhead in the middle of the trajectory). China, USA, India were able to do this. We are currently unfortunately not.
          3. Vyacheslav Viktorovich
            Vyacheslav Viktorovich 15 December 2019 17: 52
            0
            Far had to read the comments in order to meet adequate.
            At all times, launching missiles was a much simpler task than intercepting them, and the guarantee of peace was exclusively the possibility of mutual destruction. Therefore, no one doubts, for example, that our missiles in any scenario will break through the American missile defense system, and this is absolutely true. But it is not known why a huge number of commentators are sure in advance that to intercept any missile in any quantities for our missile defense is like two fingers on the asphalt, especially if it is American.
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 15 December 2019 10: 09
          +1
          Quote: Thrifty
          for С300 PMU2 "favorite target" !!!

          PMU-2 is an export version of PM1. For ourselves we bring our loved ones to PM2, and PM3 is already S-400
        3. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 15 December 2019 11: 19
          +3
          "This missile has characteristics similar to our Iskander, supersonic, with a range of up to 700 km, for the S300 PMU2" favorite target "!!!" ////
          ----
          You want to say that the C300 PMU2 can easily bring down Iskander?
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 15 December 2019 11: 33
            +1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            You want to say that the C300 PMU2 can easily bring down Iskander?

            Aero ballistic? In hypersound? At PMU2 ?. And on what We tested the Iskanders to declare that to intercept anryl? We don’t have any Patriots
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 15 December 2019 11: 49
              -2
              So shot down, or not shot down?
              1. Tusv
                Tusv 15 December 2019 11: 58
                +1
                Quote: voyaka uh
                So shot down, or not shot down?

                How do I know. I agree with you here, Thrifty garbage sporos. At PMU-2, an aeroballistic target can be grounded, except perhaps by a square nest or by chance. Therefore, my first post on which the Americans trained, stating responsibly that Our air defense will be 100 percent hi
                1. Thrifty
                  Thrifty 15 December 2019 12: 08
                  -1
                  Tusv - are you obviously not aware that the C300, C400, C350 complexes are tested and adopted only if they are able to underestimate not only existing, but also promising aircraft, missiles, including aeroballistic ones? Otherwise, why are they needed? Such a rocket will appear at the adversary’s copy of our Iskander, will we let it through, let’s smash our infrastructure? I didn’t argue, you are poorly versed in this matter!
                  1. Tusv
                    Tusv 15 December 2019 12: 19
                    +1
                    Quote: Thrifty
                    Tusv - you obviously don’t know that the complexes C300, C400, C350 are tested and accepted only if they can undo not only the existing

                    I would not know about it. But you then declare PMP, and this is the export version, on which it is impossible to shoot down the Aeroballistic target without the risk of the complete destruction of the division. I declare that we will upgrade our three-hundred to the PM2 level. And this is another calico. Major League, but there is also a Premier League and Champions League hi
                    1. Thrifty
                      Thrifty 15 December 2019 12: 41
                      -1
                      Tusv wrote about these complexes in general, and PM2 just cited as an example, as the first thing I remembered hi
                      1. Tusv
                        Tusv 15 December 2019 12: 52
                        0
                        Forgiven for not knowing about the air defense system as a whole. Just don't talk about PMU anymore. It's not a top secret for the Yankees. A lot of Soviet-built complexes have been tested. The Chinese won a tender for Turkey. Yankees - keep it up. And like the S-400, so immediately unacceptable
              2. YOUR
                YOUR 15 December 2019 13: 48
                +1
                They shot down. And here in VO there was an article about it. The 5V55 missiles of the S-300PS complex were developed to targets capable of independently maneuvering and developing speeds of up to 7 thousand km per hour
          2. YOUR
            YOUR 15 December 2019 13: 43
            0
            Well, actually, given the structure of the Air Defense Forces and their purpose, the S300PMU2 and 3 will also meet with this missile in a row. This is a videoconferencing system, and this missile has too short a range. So it will shoot at the troops, so the C300V will engage in the interception, which the C300 was not created by another design bureau for the air defense of the air defense, torpedo air defense systems, and other air defense systems that are armed with air defense of the air defense.
    2. Starper-xnumx
      Starper-xnumx 15 December 2019 08: 40
      +7
      Quote: Thrifty
      Is it weak to conduct tests, real ones, against our anti-missile defense systems?

      Well, the Turks have already tested our S_400 clearly .. the USA is hysterical, Erdogan is satisfied and began to dare openly!
  6. Tusv
    Tusv 15 December 2019 08: 38
    +4
    I wonder what they tested. The maximum available version of the S-300 for the Yankees is the PM, still of Soviet design and possibly Antei - 2500, which was delivered to Egypt. Patriot is not considered.
    And Ours are already whispering about hypersonic targets
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 15 December 2019 08: 41
      +3
      Ours do not whisper about such targets, but create, and use. ...
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 08: 46
        -12
        Quote: Thrifty
        Ours do not whisper about such targets, but create, and use. ...

        You tell the girls about this, that they are cooking in the bunker near Domodedovo. wink
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty 15 December 2019 10: 05
          +1
          Mordvin 3 - what’s wrong with the Domodedovo girls from the bunker? What are they doing there? And then our military has already successfully tested a hypersonic target, and not even one! !!
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 10: 09
            -5
            Quote: Thrifty
            What are they doing there?

            All is not thank God. My comrade served there, so I told such stories, my ears were already swollen. It is enough to tell how they drank a missile alarm. winked
            1. Thrifty
              Thrifty 15 December 2019 10: 14
              +1
              Mordvin3 - so I kindly recall the Soviet army in which I served! Honestly, there was enough mess, but they quickly solved problems at any level. The security of the country was in priority, and its own, selfish interests. ...
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 10: 19
                -3
                Quote: Thrifty
                but they quickly solved problems at any level.

                Yeah, remind you of the flight of Rust?
                1. Thrifty
                  Thrifty 15 December 2019 10: 53
                  0
                  Mordvin 3 is just the moment when there was no resolute person, not to bring down, but to force him to land!
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 10: 58
                    -3
                    Quote: Thrifty
                    Mordvin 3 is just the moment when there was no resolute person, not to bring down, but to force him to land!

                    Figs there. He was forbidden to shoot down. Under this pretext, many epaulettes flew. IMHO.
            2. Tusv
              Tusv 15 December 2019 10: 30
              +1
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              It is enough to tell how they drank a missile alarm.

              The whole division? If you are not in combat crews and not in attire, but on alert number of times, at least snatch up to the squirrel in a secluded corner. No one is missing. Not to whom hi
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 10: 36
                -4
                Quote: Tusv
                The whole division?

                Exactly. Grandpa celebrated demobilization. They call him: "Sergeant, missile attack!"
                "Fuck you where to go!"
                Just think, the snot was removed from the epaulet ... sad
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv 15 December 2019 10: 58
                  +3
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  Just think, the snot was removed from the epaulet ...

                  I would have served in the penal battalion as part of the shift duty, but lost my snot. That's all
                  The air defense does not ring, but the siren howls. For those who have this signal, they themselves run at the level of km s in athletics. Your "grandfather" was just performing his "demob chord". In addition, your tovarisch boasted, telling tales of how the entire division got drunk, including officers and warrant officers. And you hung up your ears. There was such a crap in the Paramilitary, We would be the Yankees with great pleasure de-democratized, that 1941 would seem like Hitler's childish babble hi
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 11: 04
                    -1
                    Quote: Tusv
                    I would have served in the penal battalion as part of the shift duty, but lost my snot.

                    It was he who was part of the shift on duty. Mid 90s.
                    Quote: Tusv
                    In addition, your comrade praised, telling stories from how the entire division was given a drink, including officers and ensigns.

                    He was sitting on the commutator. Communication provided. He didn’t provide ... For a missile attack on Moscow he scored from a high porchcrying
                    1. Tusv
                      Tusv 15 December 2019 11: 15
                      +2
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      He was sitting on the commutator. Communication provided. He didn’t provide ... For a missile attack on Moscow he scored from a high porch

                      A. Close connection. That would be immediately said. A hotbed of drunkenness and debauchery. It doesn’t affect the combat efficiency of the division. But the entire division does not fit in the twentieth booth. Signalers they are air defense hi
  7. Voyager
    Voyager 15 December 2019 08: 43
    +2
    Intercepting a rocket is always more difficult. There is nothing surprising in this, especially since in recent years we have repeatedly spoken about new delivery vehicles of various types and calibers that even promising Western missile defense systems cannot intercept. So I would not be so frivolous about the statements of amers)
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 15 December 2019 17: 23
      0
      It is difficult to intercept ICBMs — all the more with a few warheads — and the new American missile, which is the all-in-one OTR, is much simpler.
  8. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 15 December 2019 08: 45
    +4
    The United States announced the creation of a rocket capable of overcoming the Russian air defense system

    The stupidity of American "dead ends" is as interesting as the statement:
    According to reports, now rocket capable of flying for 550 km, and according to other sources - to 700-750 km.

    Judging by this, the star-and-cavity think to intimidate Russia from Poland and the Baltic states? Or is there a bet on the Ukrainian Strategic Rocket Forces and SMD? laughing
    And yourself? Type: we have nothing to do with, did they start? Or is there an idea to sit out overseas?
    Invisible F-35, formidable AUG, missile defense systems in Europe, laser, anti-satellite and other weapons from the Star Wars films, exoskeletons, drones, railguns ...
    It’s terrible how ... But it will be like in a fairy tale about two heroes:
    - Do not be afraid of me, Ivan!
    - Oh! I'm afraid, I'm afraid ...

    hi
  9. Kelwin
    Kelwin 15 December 2019 09: 03
    +4
    Just like that "with ease" and in the European theater of operations? In what European language, if the current pshek and tribalts force yourself to insert this wick, the rest are ready to send you to a known address. These currents will end in four minutes, they will not even have time to sharpen them. Sit behind a puddle and do not shine, you are already sick ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 15 December 2019 17: 26
      +1
      Romania, Czech Republic, Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Georgia, Poland - as you can see, applicants for the installation are decent.
      1. Kelwin
        Kelwin 15 December 2019 17: 33
        0
        Yes sir. The main flight time. To the specified goals from 4 to 6 minutes. Well, who asked them to meet ..
  10. jovanni
    jovanni 15 December 2019 09: 23
    +1
    Yes, they themselves are animators ...
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 15 December 2019 09: 59
    +1
    ... The United States has developed a surface-to-surface missile that can easily penetrate Russia's air defense system

    Calming / resting for completely frostbitten!
    If you said that they have something that easily reflects ALL missiles flying at them, it was worth thinking about!
    And this .... and so everyone knows that if ZAVARUSHKA starts, no one will survive, because a massive blow will not be able to reflect NOBODY!
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 15 December 2019 10: 11
    +3
    We bet if we knock out five out of five, you return Alaska. negative
  13. Mytholog
    Mytholog 15 December 2019 11: 19
    0
    And no "to overcome the air defense of possible opponents". Russian air defense, Chinese ships.
    Nothing turbid, crystal clear aggressiveness.
    Handsome just ...
  14. Mentat
    Mentat 15 December 2019 11: 32
    +1
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Thrifty
    but they quickly solved problems at any level.

    Yeah, remind you of the flight of Rust?

    If you were even in a microscopic degree aware of the matter, you could remind, but you just need to quack louder.

    For example, do you know that in different sections Rusta was accompanied by helicopters? He was led one way or another almost throughout the route.
    Not to shoot down was a political decision, not a technical impossibility.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 15 December 2019 12: 45
      -1
      Mentat - in fact, I wrote that no one took responsibility to force Rust to land! Where did I write that he needed to be shot down? ?? Do not distort, please, my comment! !!!
  15. Mentat
    Mentat 15 December 2019 11: 42
    +2
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    He was sitting on the commutator. Communication provided. He didn’t provide ... For a missile attack on Moscow he scored from a high porch

    Trying to deliberately file yourself as a naive Chukchi youth, is this such a new way to become young?

    Do you perceive fishing stories and hunting stories under the glass with the same sincere uncomplicated childish naivety?
    A joke about the felt boots on the remote, by chance do not take it at face value?
  16. Mentat
    Mentat 15 December 2019 12: 52
    0
    Quote: Thrifty
    Mentat - in fact, I wrote that no one took responsibility to force Rust to land! Where did I write that he needed to be shot down? ?? Do not distort, please, my comment! !!!

    Actually, I wrote not to you, but to Mordvin, this is clearly seen in the structure of quotes. Be careful.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 15 December 2019 13: 01
      +1
      Mentat - I noticed that I read your comment carelessly, hi sorry hi !
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 13: 04
      0
      Quote: Mentat
      Actually, I wrote not to you, but to Mordvin, this is clearly seen in the structure of quotes. Be careful.

      Is it difficult for you to press the "answer" button? Otherwise, neither I nor Lean will notice your comment ... Well, let them be a fishing bike, sleep well, my capital! yes
  17. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 15 December 2019 13: 09
    +1
    Original statement by the American general:

    "In the European theater, Rafferty said, that technology is primarily aimed at Russian anti-aircraft radars. In the Pacific, the primary moving target is Chinese warships at sea." (source).

    in translation corresponds to the banal:

    "in the European theater of military operations, this missile system is supposed to be used mainly to combat radar installations of the air defense systems of the Russian Armed Forces"

    Point.

    Other clarifications and striking epithets on the tapes of news agencies - a gag of magazine magazines chasing cheap laughing .
  18. Pup1
    Pup1 15 December 2019 13: 27
    0
    It’s sad that they are thinking of overcoming something, that you can fly a little bomb ..
    ICBMs, etc., even there are no thoughts ... that yars will fly in response .... right away .. megacities are created for .... chik and that’s all .. mistakes in Georgia were asked ...
  19. Eroma
    Eroma 15 December 2019 14: 13
    +1
    This rocket could not be shot down by Patriot laughing and they decided that our air defense could not cope!
    Oh well … bully
  20. VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
    VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 15 December 2019 14: 38
    0
    They can sound, not create. What is good is a stolen project from others.
  21. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 15 December 2019 14: 41
    0
    Here something else is funnier. The Eurogeans are openly signed to become a "theater of war." Russians are no longer as kind, socialist and tolerant as they were 50-100-200 years ago wassat
  22. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 15 December 2019 14: 45
    +1
    The United States is still a rival to Russia due to the developments of thirty years ago (strategic nuclear triad). The US has nothing in the area of ​​INF. The last "test" showed this especially clearly. But in 10 years, the Russian Federation will have the opportunity to completely destroy the United States with its own losses not exceeding half of the Soviet losses in World War II. From this, not a war will follow, but a dictation with feigned explanations of actions so that the American population does not get upset.

    China is not yet a rival to the Russian Federation and may never be so. Its only DF-41 ICBM is worse than Soviet missiles of fifty years ago, and China does not have any medium-range hypersound and will not exist for a very long time.

    ... Therefore, to get acquainted with the real state of affairs, I recommend reading the forum "Strategic Missile Forces and Other Strategic Nuclear Forces, as well as TNW" on the Global Adventure. This is the best place in the entire world of the Internet for military issues, far ahead of all others. A dozen and a half specialists hang out there (in particular, several active colonels and lieutenant colonels, several who have recently retired). In terms of competence, this forum is far ahead of other forums of the Global Adventure.
  23. Baloo
    Baloo 15 December 2019 16: 36
    0
    Quote: tracer
    It is unlikely that we can object to 5 million.

    But will human resources remain to confront each other? A cloud from tests at the Totsky training ground covered the town, which still has the highest level of oncology, including and in children. I was there in Totsk a few years ago, there was a transmission on the local channel.
  24. Last centurion
    Last centurion 15 December 2019 18: 19
    0
    it goes without saying that a volley from highmars will overcome anything, like a volley from a tornado. it’s another matter that they already have an officially long-range small or medium-sized missile who will analyze it there for wheel equipment, unlike ...
  25. besser best
    besser best 15 December 2019 21: 08
    0
    The word of one famous film comes to mind: "Nonsense!"
  26. eagle owl
    eagle owl 15 December 2019 21: 28
    0
    Tested again on a non-working Patriot)))
  27. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 16 December 2019 00: 01
    -1
    Here is a visual comparison:

    new tactical BR and the one that is now in service.
    Like an "American Iskander".
  28. Protos
    Protos 18 December 2019 19: 37
    0
    Quote: besserbest
    A.S. Pushkin said: "Translators are dummy horses of education." I agree with you 100%.

    Not fake, but BREED horses!
    These are two big differences. bully