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"Caliber" dispersed to hypersonic speed ": the most stupid military fakes of the week

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In the “Weekend Fiction” section, “VO” presents a new selection of the most stupid fakes of the week. Recall that last week “Military Review” told its readers about the UNIQUE military expertise, when certain resources (let's not point a finger ...) announced how the S-400 air defense missile system shot down the Israeli Jericho rocket during the tests, and about as the Su-35 "dispersed", again Israeli, the F-35 in the sky over Syria.


In the new issue - new "heights". Last week, the Zvezda channel was noted for the launch of the Caliber naval cruise missiles. The report was originally called “More than 250 km in 137 seconds: a video of target destruction by Caliber was published.

You do not need to be a mathematician at the Perelman level in order to calculate the speed of the rocket that was discussed in the report based on the voiced data. This speed is more than 6,5 thousand km / h! It turns out that during the firing, the "Caliber" was somehow dispersed to hypersonic speed. Suppose ... But then - more.


The report (again, initially) stated that the "Caliber" was accompanied by fighters. It turns out that if the "Caliber" suddenly became hypersonic, then the fighters - too. Otherwise, how would they “accompany a hypersonic missile”?

Realizing that there was “something wrong” with the characteristics of the rocket in the report, the correspondents decided to correct the headline: instead of “250 km in 137 seconds”, “250 km in several tens of seconds” appeared. As the saying goes, "let it be." At the same time, it was stated that drones recorded the defeat of the target. But the phrase was present in the report itself: "The sailors worked out an algorithm of actions to defeat a conditional enemy surface ship with the Caliber missile system with electronic launches." How can these statements be docked? Have drones recorded hits from electronic launches? And what in this case was accompanied by fighters?

The Avia.pro resource distinguished itself during the week. Title: “A second reconnaissance aircraft escorting an American aircraft carrier was shot down.”

How is the second? That is, the “first” was also shot down ... Why neither the Pentagon nor the Hussites know about it, on which two reconnaissance aircraft were “hung” at once? In the same materials, the authors suddenly ask themselves whether it was a reconnaissance plane, or was it an unmanned aerial vehicle ... And in the end, an “information bomb”: “Hussites may well attack both the aircraft carrier and the entire strike group.”

Completed the week "News"From the series" We Didn’t Even Know "the Free News portal, coming out with the material under the heading:" US military threat of use weapons stopped the Russian patrol. " The material was published with reference to some political experts, who themselves, of course, did not see anything like this, but apparently heard from other "political experts" ...

Such was the week of military “sensations”: either hypersonic “Caliber”, then Hussites, shooting down American planes literally one after another.
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  1. GABALIS
    GABALIS 14 December 2019 21: 58
    +1
    "Caliber" dispersed to "hypersonic speed": the most stupid military fakes ....
    Why fakes? IMHO, this is an information war :) Let the adversary scratch his turnips.
    1. Goldmoskit
      Goldmoskit 14 December 2019 22: 07
      +9
      In vain weed was allowed. :-)
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 14 December 2019 22: 20
        +11
        Quote: GoldMoskit
        In vain weed was allowed. :-)

        In vain removed censorship and proofreaders!
    2. Doctor
      Doctor 14 December 2019 22: 08
      0
      Why fakes? IMHO, this is an information war :) Let the adversary scratch his turnips.


      They have their own fakes. Or maybe NOT fakes.

      Retired US Army Lieutenant General Stephen Quast said the United States has technology that can deliver a person anywhere in the world in less than an hour.
      About this, according to The Drive, he said at Hillsdale College.
      Quast previously served as head of the Training Aviation Command at the base in San Antonio.
      According to him, such a technology can be created "today, and independently, not as the development of existing developments."
      “It will allow anyone to be delivered from anywhere in the world to any other place in less than an hour,” he said.
      The former military did not provide details about the technology.


      https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/31445/recently-retired-usaf-general-makes-eyebrow-raising-claims-about-advanced-space-technology
      1. Dmitry Donskoy
        Dmitry Donskoy 14 December 2019 22: 18
        +10
        At the end of this article, it was necessary to voice the names of particularly distinguished scribblers. Let the country know its characters in person yes
        1. The comment was deleted.
        2. tol100v
          tol100v 14 December 2019 23: 34
          +1
          Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
          At the end of this article, it was necessary to voice the names of particularly distinguished scribblers. Let the country know its characters in person

          These "heroes" who do not know the basics of hydrodynamics (and other subjects) should simply be excluded from .....
        3. sergo1914
          sergo1914 14 December 2019 23: 44
          0
          Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
          At the end of this article, it was necessary to voice the names of particularly distinguished scribblers. Let the country know its characters in person yes


          What a modest young man. Just Dmitry Donskoy. Why not Alexander the Great? Today is Saturday. Can.
        4. cost
          cost 15 December 2019 00: 30
          +6
          most stupid war fakes of the week

          And here is our winner in this nomination good
        5. YOUR
          YOUR 15 December 2019 03: 20
          0
          And in what form it was delivered. Preferably with a photo.
      2. Avior
        Avior 15 December 2019 00: 14
        +4
        And it just might not be fake
        He talked about technology, not about the finished device
        Actually, this is a suborbital flight, like the first American astronauts
        There’s no sense why it’s necessary to deliver one person so quickly somewhere
        1. YOUR
          YOUR 15 December 2019 03: 21
          +2
          Naturally there are such technologies, and you and I know which ones. These are ballistic missiles.
          1. Avior
            Avior 15 December 2019 09: 15
            +1
            The first space flights were actually carried out on ballistic missiles adapted for LV
            So theoretically, technology is, or at least possible
            Only it makes no sense
      3. certero
        certero 15 December 2019 00: 15
        +4
        So there really is such a technology. The person will be delivered. But he is unlikely to survive this delivery :)
      4. Tsoy
        Tsoy 15 December 2019 04: 09
        +10
        They have their own fakes. Or maybe NOT fakes.


        It’s not their fakes, but we have * diodes as translators. The phrase is taken out of context. Specially followed the link and read the article. A former general in a private lecture said that more money needs to be invested in Space Command to confront China. Further literally: for 33 years I met many scientists. I assure you today technologies already exist that could deliver a person anywhere in the world in an hour. That is, with proper funding, this can be done. This phrase was just an example, but it was all about something else.
        1. WIKI
          WIKI 15 December 2019 09: 51
          0
          Quote: Choi
          I assure you today there are already technologies that could deliver a person to anywhere in the world in an hour. That is, with proper funding, this can be done.

          What is the idiocy?
          1. Tsoy
            Tsoy 15 December 2019 09: 56
            +1
            What is the idiocy?


            Is this an intentionally incorrect translation with an emphasis on one sentence in a large lecture? Not?
            1. WIKI
              WIKI 15 December 2019 10: 06
              -1
              I already answered your comment
              They have technologies and that it’s possible in principle is not the same thing
              In Ushakov's Explanatory Dictionary of 1940, technology is “a set of sciences, information about the methods of processing one or another raw material into a manufactured product, into a finished product; a set of processes for such processing ”. "in principle possible" is not a science, but a fantasy.
              1. Tsoy
                Tsoy 15 December 2019 13: 27
                0
                Quote: WIKI
                In Ushakov's Explanatory Dictionary of 1940, technology is “a set of sciences, information about the methods of processing one or another raw material into a manufactured product, into a finished product; a set of processes for such processing ”. "in principle possible" is not a science, but a fantasy.


                I have already answered you too. And here and there I don't understand what does the definition of the word "technology" have to do with it? It is about the incompetence of the translator, and not about something else.
      5. Amateur
        Amateur 15 December 2019 07: 16
        +2
        theoretically, you can transfer a person by phone. but the technical difficulties that arise at the moment are not surmountable

        T.A. Edison
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 15 December 2019 07: 00
      0
      And the drones that track the hit of hypersonic Caliber also come out, were hypersonic ???
      1. Rzzz
        Rzzz 15 December 2019 14: 45
        0
        Well, the caliber itself is also essentially a drone. Amerikoses have the option of a tomahawk performed by a reconnaissance drone, when instead of warheads they put all kinds of cameras in it.
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 14 December 2019 22: 07
    -3
    About Calibers ... I get up and take off my hat ...
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 14 December 2019 22: 17
      +6
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      About Calibers ... I get up and take off my hat ...

      And do not forget to hand over the coat to the wardrobe! yes
      Sorry of course - but your comment was very amusing! lol
      You need to check the information in advance, and do not give a refutation after the fact! Serious media - do just that! hi
      1. UserGun
        UserGun 14 December 2019 22: 37
        0
        Quote: Hunter 2
        Serious media - do just that


        Those. Are you bluntly saying that the Zvezda TV channel from which many people here crow, bluntly, ordinary bullshit? Sorry - frivolous media wink
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 14 December 2019 22: 46
          +5
          Channel management should take a closer look at the outgoing editor. And the news department of the site is to check the news received. Especially on the Internet immediately after the release of the report, his refutation appeared.
          And what is the syllable of your comment ... (crow) ??? You are not at the poultry farm! laughing
          1. UserGun
            UserGun 14 December 2019 23: 05
            0
            Quote: Hunter 2
            And what is the syllable of your comment ... (crow) ???


            Well, how did I manage to wrap laughing By the way, it is very intelligible. In fact, everything is much worse. Even if the first person of the first channel is also slurred wink I’m silent about Rush Tudey. jelly tivi and others like them. But the most tsimus is not even in them, but in the fact that they pick up and carry such nonsense. This is especially noticeable on this resource. Is even common sense finally left the like, or something else? What do you think ?
            1. Hunter 2
              Hunter 2 14 December 2019 23: 18
              +9
              Mostly try to think Head! what
              Understand ... now the Century of Information, mistakes are All - regardless of the channel and Country! You read the Chinese or see (if you know the language) - I guarantee you at least Nervous Tick! Well, infallible Western media, think Better? There are more fakes on the Order! All in pursuit of sensations forget about elementary logic and professionalism. Need for this - to punish! angry
              The site has lost ground somewhat ... it took a lot of competent Forum users, but ... I hope Everything is fixable! hi
              1. UserGun
                UserGun 15 December 2019 00: 30
                0
                Eeeee, wait a minute! We are Dartanyans !!! We can’t have fakes by definition !!! For we (and only WE !!!) are Dartanyans, and all the rest (well, except for some, which are vanishingly few laughing , but nevertheless, like druganov, until the next pay) forgive my syllable, rot or simply falling. geyropiruyut wink
              2. YOUR
                YOUR 15 December 2019 03: 31
                +3
                Not the explanation chosen. Why watch how they lie and become like.
                Unfortunately, especially recently, all dregs have appeared very often here.
                I can recall how vehemently discussed the flight of the Tu-160 over the Sea of ​​Japan where he left the F-35. It turned out a fake taken from Chinese Yandex Zen, which is Sohu. And obviously it didn’t work to think because you’re right -
                Quote: Hunter 2
                The site has somewhat lost ground ... it took a lot of literate members of the forum

                Many unfortunately there are those who are chasing the pluses, absolutely not understanding the topic.
                1. Donald72
                  Donald72 15 December 2019 06: 21
                  +3
                  If about the Tu-160 fake toy I seduced. For max. its speed is 2200km.h. and f-35 1950km.ch. But of course I agree, reading the press I want to believe what is written and not to wonder if they are fooling me.
                  1. YOUR
                    YOUR 15 December 2019 06: 39
                    0
                    On paper it is. But realities per minute burns one ton of fuel at maximum speed, engines consume motor resources faster, and there is no engine for Tu-160. And most importantly, why is this needed? Show off. None of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation knows about this in Japan
                    1. Donald72
                      Donald72 15 December 2019 06: 47
                      +1
                      Could of course show off, know our pier. But I do not dispute your words if there is nowhere to be confirmed apparently and the deceiver has indeed turned out.
              3. Binder
                Binder 15 December 2019 07: 16
                0
                Unfortunately, I am far from young and because of this I remember the work of the Soviet media in the Brezhnev era. Of course, ideology prevailed, many facts were hushed up, something was presented in a distorted light, citizens of the USSR were convinced that their country was not only in the field of ballet “ahead of all Europe”. But the fighters of the ideological front of that time were incomparably smarter, more educated and more professional than their current Russian colleagues. There are no such political observers as V. Zorin, A. Bovin, I. Fesunenko, A. Kaveznev today, and the Kiselev-Nightingale's are pitiful mediocrities.
        2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 14 December 2019 23: 43
          +6
          Quote: UserGun
          Those. Are you bluntly saying that the Zvezda TV channel from which many people here crow, bluntly, ordinary bullshit?

          Eeeee ... and what, is this news for you? :))))
          1. UserGun
            UserGun 15 December 2019 00: 34
            +1
            Clap! Clap! Those. Do you also consider this FEDERAL channel fake? No, well, of course, thanks for the directness)))
          2. Jack O'Neill
            Jack O'Neill 15 December 2019 01: 58
            +1
            Eeeee ... and what, is this news for you? :))))

            This cannot be. Oh, priests, you can't trust anyone in our time, even the most honest channel - "Zvezda".
  3. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 14 December 2019 22: 07
    +10
    It's good that VO opens our eyes ... but after the fact! It would be nice if it was the other way around or such materials were not dragged to the site. Otherwise, there was no respite from the Amsk "National Interest". And there not everything was true and objectively balanced ... However.
    1. Tsoy
      Tsoy 15 December 2019 04: 12
      +3
      Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
      And then from the AM "National Interest"


      Only he is not quite American. They have an immigrant for the main.
  4. Kirill Dou
    Kirill Dou 14 December 2019 22: 10
    +1
    I am glad that critically thinking authors remained at VO. Respect, Respect.
    1. Earth
      Earth 14 December 2019 23: 05
      0
      I agree. This is valuable.
  5. Alien From
    Alien From 14 December 2019 22: 11
    +3
    "" The material was published with reference to some political experts who, of course, have not seen anything like this themselves, but apparently heard from other "political experts" ... "" This is how we live, dear friends)) Today, the main news agency in the world, this is OBS)))
    1. cost
      cost 14 December 2019 22: 14
      +7
      Today, the main news agency in the world is OBS

      1. Rostislav Bely
        Rostislav Bely 14 December 2019 23: 48
        -1
        Mach 5,4 for the Caliber anti-submarine missile? for export performance - Mach 2,5 per 50 km ...
        It reminded me of an old joke
        Sarah comes up from the bazaar upset and says Abrashhe, she gave a mole she bought 5 rubles for chicken, and they each had 3 rubles. What does Abram ask: “What is Mach a big man?” ;)
        1. cost
          cost 14 December 2019 23: 56
          +3

          Rostislav Bely: ... mole gave a blow ...

          Good evening, Glory hi
          Have you decided to take part in this nomination "war fakes of the week" too? smile
          They won’t buy it. Moth does not fly at such a speed yes
          1. Avior
            Avior 15 December 2019 00: 20
            +3
            We are adults
            Who will believe it?
            How the mole looks and how Mach
            How would she give it to him? smile
            hi
          2. Rostislav Bely
            Rostislav Bely 15 December 2019 00: 30
            +2
            here the moth is different, as in Bobruisk on tour of the Jewish theater - they gave Boris Godunov, Tsar Boris comes on the scene and the phone rings suddenly, the actor, not bewildered, answers the call from the stage: - Tsar, what, well, I repeat the letters of Tsilya, Abram Reuben, the end is soft ...
  6. Isk1984
    Isk1984 14 December 2019 22: 47
    0
    Good night, did anyone see the news: In the USA, they announced the possibility of delivering a person in an hour to anywhere .....
    Do you think the Department of Defense Advanced Research Projects of the US Department of Defense projects really did something, or so the air is cracking ...
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 14 December 2019 23: 03
      +16
      Quote: Isk1984
      Good night, did anyone see the news: In the USA, they announced the possibility of delivering a person in an hour to anywhere .....
      Do you think the Department of Defense Advanced Research Projects of the US Department of Defense projects really did something, or so the air is cracking ...

      At least - send a man ... anywhere in the world and not only, it is possible in a couple of seconds! feel only a person can be upset! crying
    2. Avior
      Avior 15 December 2019 00: 24
      +2
      Gagarin took less than two hours to fly around the planet
      So theoretically it cannot be excluded that the technology is
      And practically, nobody needs such a delivery
  7. Rostislav Bely
    Rostislav Bely 14 December 2019 23: 31
    -3
    You do not need to be a mathematician at the Perelman level in order to calculate the speed of the rocket that was discussed in the report based on the voiced data. This speed is more than 6,5 thousand km / h!

    hi
    250/137 = 1,84 km / s = 5,4 Ma - I'm just an auditor, not "Perelmanovich", so I don't do complicated calculations, but I use a table from the Internet.
    Most likely this is not a fake, but a banal mistake, they threw it from miles to km - they shot from 140 km, not miles, but up to 3 machs for the caliber, the real speed in the export version, or maybe they really caught up to 5 mach, since this is not an export version anti-submarine missiles 91RE2 ("Caliber-NKE") and 91RE1 ("Caliber-PLE"))
    I have the impression that the author has, so to speak, "bear disease" on fakes
    1. Avior
      Avior 15 December 2019 00: 27
      +1
      The subsonic caliber, theoretically up to 2 max, the second stage of the RCC variant can be accelerated in the last forty kilometers
      1. Rostislav Bely
        Rostislav Bely 15 December 2019 00: 34
        -4
        on the latter in the export version 3M-54E up to 2,9 Ma ... you at least open Wikipedia, this is not the data of the Russian Defense Ministry
        1. Avior
          Avior 15 December 2019 01: 28
          +4
          Let's do it again-
          Subsonic caliber, supersonic only the last stage, shoots back after detecting a target
          Caliber itself on the march section can not accelerate to 3 m, nor to 5, nor to 2
          1. Rostislav Bely
            Rostislav Bely 15 December 2019 01: 37
            -5
            Subsonic - you confuse with axes ...
            1. Avior
              Avior 15 December 2019 01: 38
              +4
              This is what you are confused with
              All Gauges are subsonic, the supersonic stage in the last section is only one of the versions of the anti-ship missiles
              1. Rostislav Bely
                Rostislav Bely 15 December 2019 02: 04
                0
                I'm not talking about the yacht (onyx) - we have roughened characteristics in the export version (a dead-end branch is given for analysis, that is, not for a hike (improvement) in the future)
                and you are buzzing from the export version - what do you think we stupid people make decisions by illuminating technologies for export?
                The talker is a godsend for the spy - remember the joke about the sniper - And who speaks to me - I laughing
          2. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 15 December 2019 03: 15
            +3
            Gospidya! Yes, explain to the people clearly that you mean anti-ship versions of "Calibers" with a range, somewhere, up to 300 km ...!
      2. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 15 December 2019 03: 10
        +1
        Quote: Avior
        theoretically, the second stage of the RCC variant in the last forty kilometers can accelerate to 2 max

        ... in the last 20 km ...
  8. vanavatny
    vanavatny 14 December 2019 23: 33
    +6
    a good deed, but one can hardly cope with the murky shaft of journalistic delirium, powerfully backed by the idiocy of political scientists in uniform from the head office, then they have our brand of nuclear-powered steamboat, the Malaysian Boeing have been knocked down, then Stalin flew around with an icon around Moscow ...
    1. Avior
      Avior 15 December 2019 00: 28
      +2
      About rook- this is not journalists, this is the official version of TFR
    2. UserGun
      UserGun 15 December 2019 00: 39
      +5
      Well, I would not say that this is "journalistic nonsense". This is ts, in a fashionable word, TREND, with a hand of water))) Vaughn, the mouthpiece itself, called the other day the Russian Federation "an island of stability in the ocean of turbulence" ... I somehow just jumped up and remembered 2008 and how the dollar has already doubled in price ...
      1. Rostislav Bely
        Rostislav Bely 15 December 2019 00: 54
        -7
        what is 5,4 Ma - 1,84 km / s - Iskander has a starting speed of 2,1 km / s
        and since they fired at a distance of 250 km (up to 500 km), the anti-submarine version of the Caliber could be brought up to 5,4 Ma (there is no need to fly for 1,5 thousand miles)
        1. Avior
          Avior 15 December 2019 01: 29
          0
          The caliber in the RCC version has a range of 600 km, it has no 1500
          1. Rostislav Bely
            Rostislav Bely 15 December 2019 01: 36
            -1
            I DO NOT CONSIDER WHY (anti-ship 600, and the land more), I give a hint for the ship - you can’t hide behind the folds of the terrain, so you need more speed, not a glider ...
            1. Avior
              Avior 15 December 2019 01: 41
              +2
              Your clues are far from reality
              Caliber - subsonic rocket
              1. Rostislav Bely
                Rostislav Bely 15 December 2019 01: 45
                -4
                You want to say that the people with stupid people, whose granite is changed to a caliber of 2,5 Ma?
  9. Kelwin
    Kelwin 15 December 2019 03: 27
    0
    Well, so what?) Author, did you have a beer over?) Well, they escorted, well, shot down, well, magazine sticks, so what?) 50 and all things) drinks
  10. Nick
    Nick 15 December 2019 04: 32
    +1
    Confused minutes with seconds IMHO. 250 km in 13,7 minutes is more like the truth. It turns out that the speed is slightly more than 1000 km / h, even less than 1 mach. At this speed, fighters fly easily.
  11. VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
    VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 15 December 2019 04: 36
    -2
    The truth is not true, let them scratch their turnips overseas. Why should we know the truth! This is Uncle Sam's headache. It's politics and strategy. It's not our business. Clients are shitty.
  12. Cottodraton
    Cottodraton 15 December 2019 06: 29
    +1
    Aviation .pro generally reminds me of the degree of garbage speed info
  13. Tusv
    Tusv 15 December 2019 07: 04
    -3
    But the fake is not really stupid. Caliber can fly far - can. At the final stage, it can develop hypersound - probably (zircon knows how). Naturally, fighters can accompany a subsonic flight, and a drone usually always hangs over a target. Another thing screwed up with electronic start
    1. Alex Gunn
      Alex Gunn 15 December 2019 12: 02
      0
      And why is everyone so obsessed with Caliber. Zircon is quite capable of developing such speed and there is the possibility of launching from this ship.
  14. evgenii67
    evgenii67 15 December 2019 08: 17
    0
    Come on you! What is this ?! And before Zhirinovsky they still still grow and grow, because tomorrow our scientists will slightly change the magnetic field of the Earth! 24 hours and the whole country (USA) under water!
  15. Dmitry Donskoy
    Dmitry Donskoy 15 December 2019 08: 51
    0
    Quote: sergo1914
    Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
    At the end of this article, it was necessary to voice the names of particularly distinguished scribblers. Let the country know its characters in person yes


    What a modest young man. Just Dmitry Donskoy. Why not Alexander the Great? Today is Saturday. Can.

    hi Unlike you colleague, my nickname is more in VO and is written in Russian letters on the Russian website. tongue
  16. srha
    srha 15 December 2019 09: 42
    0
    The publication is not bad. But! Fakes are usually hidden behind anonymous articles (sources) or fake shots. After all, once the one who lied, there is no more trust. And judging by the non-signature of your article, and in your fight against fakes, not everything has been "overcome".

    In addition, so that it would be good and would emphasize your high intellectual level, if you would also note the explicit written nonsense such as: "pass through a diffraction grating like a prism" (article on VO "On the threshold. Americans are ready to deploy directed energy systems").
  17. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 15 December 2019 09: 46
    0
    So short videos are called, for example, "Construction of the Crimean bridge in five minutes", if they were shooting with calibers for 1000 km, they would be called the same, and db would begin to count and calculate the first space velocity or something else.
  18. Ros 56
    Ros 56 15 December 2019 09: 48
    0
    Even if dispersed or dispersed, what is the catch? This is a matter of designers, but for the army there will only be a plus. Once the planes just turned around pancake, and now?
  19. Cympak
    Cympak 15 December 2019 10: 03
    0
    Great selection!
    "I demand the continuation of the banquet ...." (c)
  20. Starper-xnumx
    Starper-xnumx 15 December 2019 11: 53
    +1
    In the “Weekend Fiction” section, “VO” presents a new selection of the most stupid fakes of the week.

    Well fakes fakes, but I like this one hehe

    Or else the Talmud shows ..

    something suffered me in the wrong steppe again .. hi
  21. Mentat
    Mentat 15 December 2019 12: 13
    -3
    In the new issue - new "heights". Last week, the Zvezda channel was noted for the launch of the Caliber naval cruise missiles. The report was originally called “More than 250 km in 137 seconds: a video of target destruction by Caliber was published.


    You do not need to be a mathematician at the Perelman level in order to calculate the speed of the rocket that was discussed in the report based on the voiced data. This speed is more than 6,5 thousand km / h! It turns out that during the firing, the "Caliber" was somehow dispersed to hypersonic speed. Suppose ... But then - more.


    The report (again, initially) stated that the "Caliber" was accompanied by fighters. It turns out that if the "Caliber" suddenly became hypersonic, then the fighters - too. Otherwise, how would they “accompany a hypersonic missile”?

    Realizing that there was “something wrong” with the characteristics of the rocket in the report, the correspondents decided to correct the headline: instead of “250 km in 137 seconds”, “250 km in several tens of seconds” appeared. As the saying goes, "let it be." At the same time, it was stated that drones recorded the defeat of the target. But the phrase was present in the report itself: "The sailors worked out an algorithm of actions to defeat a conditional enemy surface ship with the Caliber missile system with electronic launches." How can these statements be docked? Have drones recorded hits from electronic launches? And what in this case was accompanied by fighters?

    You see, girl, this is only in a special kind of female logic “housewife-copywriter” that sailors could not first perform electronic launches, training to defeat surface targets, and then perform a real missile launch at a target at the training ground. In real life, you will probably be surprised, but this is possible. Amazing, right?

    Fighters could accompany the rocket on a short segment of the trajectory, then escort them with radars. Amazingly, this is not the same when you and your girlfriend accompany a stroller with her child, walking at the same speed nearby. It is clear that in your everyday logic something is not consistent, but it happens, you won’t believe it, and in a different way.

    And where in your “exposure” suddenly a “uncomfortable” piece of text disappeared?

    “To escort the Caliber to the goal is the task of supersonic fighters. While the rocket is gaining speed, they fly almost equal. Drones are responsible for fixing the hit. The speed of defeat is calculated per second ”(https://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/20191211627-TZbH4.html)

    In other words, the fighters accompanied the rocket, being physically close, in the initial section of its trajectory, there were no “hypersonic fighters”. But the awkward text in your note, of course, did not get. Purely by chance you did not notice him.

    What kind of golem fakes are you scribbling under the guise of supposedly revelations?

    WHERE, where are you going?
    1. Alex Fox
      Alex Fox 15 December 2019 13: 33
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      Topwar has long smacked of Libertous
  22. Alex Fox
    Alex Fox 15 December 2019 13: 31
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    in the article there are no words about the hypersonic speed "Caliber" got a little confused with the distances. according to the information, the target was 137 km away, and was hit in 250 seconds. But about hyperspeed, here the author has already poured his slag into our ears ...
  23. Old26
    Old26 15 December 2019 16: 42
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    Quote: GABALIS
    "Caliber" dispersed to "hypersonic speed": the most stupid military fakes ....
    Why fakes? IMHO, this is an information war :) Let the adversary scratch his turnips.

    They will not scratch turnips. Laughter - yes. The information war is an information war, but frank nonsense is also not worth writing. It only causes laughter

    Quote: Avior
    The subsonic caliber, theoretically up to 2 max, the second stage of the RCC variant can be accelerated in the last forty kilometers

    Up to 2,9M in the last 20 km

    Quote: Rostislav White
    on the latter in the export version 3M-54E up to 2,9 Ma ... you at least open Wikipedia, this is not the data of the Russian Defense Ministry

    You're not right. Only one of the variants of the anti-ship caliber, regardless of whether it is export or not, has a supersonic stage. Which starts working on the last 20 km. Prior to that, the flight of any "Caliber" family 3M54, as well as 3M14 - subsonic
  24. Old26
    Old26 15 December 2019 17: 04
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    Quote: Alex Fox
    in the article there are no words about the hypersonic speed "Caliber" got a little confused with the distances. according to the information, the target was 137 km away, and was hit in 250 seconds. But about hyperspeed, here the author has already poured his slag into our ears ...

    That on the forehead, that on the forehead. And in this case, the cruise speed of the "Caliber" must be supersonic. We divide 137000 meters by 250 seconds and we get 548 m / s, which is equal to 1,7M applied
    Hyper speed is calculated from the figures given in the article and this is not the fault of the author of the article on VO.