In the DPR successfully tested the new air defense system "Mantle - ARP"

The Donetsk People’s Republic successfully tested the new Mantle-ARP air defense system created in the republic. This was reported by the press service of the People’s Police of the DPR.

The new unified air defense system includes artillery, electronic warfare (EW) and air defense systems.

Currently, the tests of the innovative Unified system of comprehensive protection of the Republic’s facilities against enemy fire damage with the code name "Mantle-ARP" have been completed. It combines the means of artillery, electronic warfare and air defense, which will provide systemic cover for air and ground space from enemy attacks

- said in a statement.

As the press service specified, the successful creation and testing of Mantiya-ARP was facilitated by the adoption and implementation of the Terrikon-M2N electronic jamming system, created by DPR specialists. This complex is able to detect and block the operation of control channels drones the adversary.

In addition, the republic modernized the Osa-AK (M) anti-aircraft missile systems, which the DNR militia received in 2014 as trophies from the Ukrainian army. The upgraded air defense systems were able to detect air targets at ranges up to 65 km, and destroy them at altitudes up to 7 km and ranges up to 15 km.

The republic said that the introduction of the new Mantia-ARP air defense system will expand the capabilities of air defense to destroy various air targets, including unmanned aerial vehicles.

Comments

[Victor_B]

OCA-AKM is a very famous complex.
It is very common with us and in the world.
But there are so many aircraft on his account ... somehow there are no allegations that the Wasp has closed the sky.
It’s more correct to say that I personally did not come across.
Kint anyone link. Really interesting. It is about military success.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Victor_B

Kint anyone link. Really interesting. It is about military success.

So in the search engine, type OSA-AKM and at https://ru.wikipedia.org see the section "Combat use".

[krot]

The "litaks" have less and less chances to bomb the cities of the LPNR!

[Alexander Romanov]

Our Su-24 in Georgia was shot down from a wasp

[YOUR]

During 080808 3 Su-25s and one Tu-22M3 were shot down
Su-24s were not shot down during this war.
Tu-22M3 was shot down by air defense missile systems Buk deployed from Ukraine with Ukrainian crew.

[bessmertniy]

In any case, ukram will have to reckon with this.

[Revolver]

Quote: bessmertniy

In any case, ukram will have to reckon with this.

No matter how they set up another civilian side. With them it will become.

[Fraracol_2]

And what are the cons to the revolver? What didn’t you like?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Fraancol_2

And what are the cons to the revolver? What didn’t you like?

For the fact that he with his phrase - "As if they did not substitute another civilian board. They will become." - As if confirms that the notorious board was shot down by the LDNR.

[businessv]

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Quote: Krasnoyarsk

As if confirms that the notorious board was shot down by the LDNR troops.

The person simply incorrectly designed his post - I am sure that he had in mind the possibility of setting up and destroying the next civilian side with a resource and non-stop forces, as was done with the infamous Boeing, and the DPR got the charges.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: businessv

It’s just that a person incorrectly designed his post - I’m sure that he had in mind

But I'm not sure. Nobody drives in the neck, - wrote, before sending - read, correct mistakes. The idea that - and, guess what I want to say here, does not pass.

[Revolver]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

As if confirms that the notorious board was shot down by the LDNR troops.

Who shot down, it’s also known as who ordered President Kennedy, that is, a bunch of versions and a hell of evidence. And it is still unknown why the Ukrainian dispatchers directed the board away from the standard highway, and even above the combat zone. And if ever it turns out, then some of the Parashenko team will be, to put it mildly, very uncomfortable. And maybe some of the Obama team overseeing him.

[Mimoprohodil]

Quote: Nagan

directed the board away from the standard track, and exactly above the combat zone

The standard highway near Donetsk passed, and this is also a combat zone

[rufaqn]

Who else shared a link about the success of the C300 / 400? I’m not saying that a bad system can be very good, but maybe not, but there is not a single combat use, neither successful nor unsuccessful.

[carstorm 11]

it’s enough for smart people that, for example, the Chinese have experienced it in all possible variants, including its maximum range and in awe. and do not hide it. and we also didn’t use poplars or Yarses in combat. Do you want to test them in combat as well?)

[rufaqn]

Where did you read that I want something? I stated a fact, but I dream that communism in the whole world will win (c) kf "Courier"

[Amin_vivec]

The Turks conducted tests on the F-16, and now they want ANOTHER S-300/400)))

[Donald72]

Perhaps the lack of combat use is evidence of quality. Objectives to provide no one is at risk.

[rufaqn]

Perhaps well, IL 20 took a chance, but it was clearly not a success. if anything, the Syrian air defense and their C200 were not in that area.

[Ros 56]

No brain at all, Newbie? Leave the site, this is not for banderlogs.

[Glory Ponomarev]

Quote: Donald72

Perhaps the lack of combat use is evidence of quality. Objectives to provide no one is at risk.

That is, you want to say that if the Saudis do not have a patriot, but C400, then the Hussites will immediately cease to fire missiles at them and launch drones?

[igorbrsv]

Quote: rufaqn

Who else shared a link about the success of the C300 / 400? I’m not saying that a bad system can be very good, but maybe not, but there is not a single combat use, neither successful nor unsuccessful.

And a link to poplar with Satan

[sivuch]

I will refer to myself
https://forums.airbase.ru/2016/02/t83098_10--istoriya-razrabotki-zrk-osa.html
An article on the OSA and, a little, on Cuba. This is a continuation of the previous article on the air defense of the Soviet division
In the end, there is material on the combat use of the Wasp - which was found.
much more detailed than in wikis

[venik]

Quote: Victor_B

But there are so many aircraft on his account ... somehow there are no allegations that the Wasp has closed the sky.
It’s more correct to say that I personally did not come across.

=======
- in the fighting in southern Lebanon in the early 1980s, the Israeli Air Force was forced to use the mass launch of unmanned aerial vehicles as false targets, followed by attack aircraft attacking the positions of the spent air defense systems [46]. Thus, 3 complexes were destroyed, and the 4th Osa air defense system shot down one Israeli scout RF-4E, the number of UAVs destroyed in this case is not specifiedsystem. (VASILII N. Ya., GURINOVICH A. L. Anti-aircraft missile systems. Reference Edition. pp. 174-182)

- On October 2, 1981, with the help of the Osa air defense system, Polisario fighters shot down the Moroccan air-command post C-130H Hercules, the entire crew died. The next day, with the help of "Wasp" a fighter flying at maximum speed was shot down Mirage F.1 (Morocco, Mauritania & West Sahara since 1972)

- The Syrian opposition shot down two helicopters Mi-8 / Mi-17 of the Syrian Air Force from the trophy complex (Syrian Arab Republic Air Force casualties during civil war.

- During the hostilities in Angola in 1987-1988, the Osa air defense system shot down one Atlas AM.3C Bosbok aircraft, two IAI Scout UAVs and one Kentron Seeker (VASILII N. Ya., GURINOVICH A. L. edition. pp. 174-182).

- Ukrainian missile "Tochka-U", fired at Luhansk, was shot down by the "Wasp" complex, according to others - by "Tor".

- On April 14, 2018, the Syrian air defense system used the Wasp installation to counter a missile attack by the United States, Britain and France. According to some reports, several Tomahawks were shot down ....

Of course, their combat use is not limited to this, But - alas, this is all that I know .... As the saying goes: "what are they rich in ..."

[sivuch]

not limited to. and in the monograph I gave a more detailed list.

[Donald72]

They have a strong strain with weapons of this class. Therefore, as they say "fish without fish and cancer"

[Revolver]

Not the S-400, and not the Iron Dome, but at least something. We are waiting for the results.

[The leader of the Redskins]

And where do they come from, if over the territories for three years, as nothing flies, there are more reconnaissance Drones. And to shoot at them from the "wasp" ... And it is expensive and hardly to hit ...

[PalBor]

Basurin nadys said that thanks to the new air defense and electronic warfare system, over the past week they managed to land and shoot down 5 UAVs in Ukraine.

[The leader of the Redskins]

And he didn’t speak about the next offensive by an injection of military forces?

[PalBor]

He is not. In the LNR, it was stated that units of the 46th Armed Forces brigade of the Armed Forces returned to positions near the Village of Lugansk and Zolotoy, and the OSCE monitoring mission confirmed this fact. The presence of seven units of armored vehicles in Zolotoy and two in Lugansk was recorded. Is funny

[The leader of the Redskins]

For five years now I have not been laughing at such news. And I’m always teasing about balabol.

[Mimoprohodil]

Quote: PalBor

The OSCE monitoring mission confirmed this fact. The presence of seven units of armored vehicles in Zolotoy and two in Lugansk was recorded. Is funny

I looked at the last 2 reports of the OSCE, I did not see confirmation of your words

[asv363]

There are about two units in Stanytsia Luhanska, about 7 units in Zolote were earlier, but after the so-called. "dilutions".

[asv363]

The full text of the interview with the head of the air defense of the NM DNI:
http://armiyadnr.su/news/intervyu-nachalnika-protivovozdushnoy-oborony-nm-dnr

[Thrifty]

So they are looking at it and will do their analogue of our C300!

[rufaqn]

Window frames and glass are imported from Russia there, and you are talking about C400, industry is killed there by the war, and not so much physically as financially and organizationally. There is no financial_credit system for industry.

[iConst]

Quote: rufaqn

There is no financial_credit system for industry

Are you talking about Russia?

The lending rate of more than 10% is no longer allowing enterprises to be credited, since the profitability of production of consumer goods lies in the region of this figure, unless it is artificially inflated (legislatively, administratively, etc.).

Our banks are only engaged in speculation and feel good.

[Pavel57]

Our banking system is an American branch. And we do not define rates for development. And there, initially, any financial development centers are blocked.

[knn54]

Donetsk State Joint-Stock Holding Company (GAHK) "Topaz", simply a plant. producing
UNIQUE "Kolchuga" passive electronic reconnaissance complex.
There is also OJSC "Special Design Bureau", Donetsk National Technical University, So there is someone to develop and produce and "Terrikon" and "Mantle".

[Amin_vivec]

The Syrians, too, after the arrival of ours, suddenly invented and mastered at their enterprises an active defense against guided anti-tank missiles, popularly referred to as a "birdhouse".
So in the LDNR "folk craftsmen" gathered on their knees ... Is it Osu? The system "unites artillery, electronic warfare and air defense systems" ... This is not "Wasp", this is an automated control system of a regimental level, or the level of a group of forces ...

[Mountain shooter]

LDNR are preparing for battle. Apparently, Ze and his teams are not counting on "peacefulness" ...

[rufaqn]

Nobody is preparing for anything there, the army is completely destroyed and demoralized, make a serious decision in Ukraine to break up the LDP and sweep away these shortcuts in 48-72 hours, our Foreign Ministry will not have time to express concern.

[carstorm 11]

what are you?) first-hand infa?) I always have a question with such conclusions, why then they won’t defeat it if everything is so simple?) once and for all. why don't they attack?)

[rufaqn]

I will answer in Hebrew a question to the question: why the Russian army does not defeat the army of UA? why does not Israel occupy Lebanon? there is such a thing politics and diplomacy.

[carstorm 11]

why the army of the Russian Federation does not defeat? But should she?) We have a war? ) Israel is you ask them. and Ukraine having a hot spot in its borders and support from the powerful who arm and feed it turns out to be involved in diplomacy?)))) excuse schizophrenia) after losing all the battles on all fronts. having lost aviation in less than half a year, it turns out it can easily win) isn’t it funny to write this wild nonsense?)))

[rufaqn]

in LDNR, everything is not very funny, everything is very sad. they cannot even agree among themselves. the future of these territories does not give rise to optimism.

[carstorm 11]

baby talk. And the water is wet. does this somehow change the question that was asked?) how does the army that lost everything turn out to be easy to win but just don’t want to?) how can this schizophrenic conclusion be interpreted then?) from the series I don’t have money but I don’t buy a Ferrari because I don’t want to? )))

[rufaqn]

She lost, to whom she should have lost, but not to the LDNR militia defeated in July and August of the 14th, do you seriously believe in "tractor drivers and miners"? and the tank and artillery regiments hidden in the mines? Well, at least ask how O. Buzina spoke about this. it is difficult to convict him of sympathy for the Kiev authorities.

[carstorm 11]

again baby talk) who needs this to whom?) and most importantly?) nobody has canceled this support) so what doesn’t come then?)

[rufaqn]

Maybe that's why they do not come because no one has canceled support, I don’t know, if you are so aware, why then do you ask me questions to an enlightened person?

[carstorm 11]

accept in Ukraine a serious decision to break up LDNR will sweep away these undercases in 48-72 hours
it's not me but you wrote. so let's stop twisting. I like you know well. and how you fool can turn on too.

[Tusv]

Quote: carstorm 11

so why don’t they come?)

So the LDNR amulet is amusing and has a bogey-tree healing for the Armed Forces of Ukraine - the words of Vladimir Vladimirovich about the loss of statehood of Ukraine. Here is the Novice and interprets that who needs to lose

[revnagan]

Quote: carstorm 11

how does an army that has lost everything turn out to be able to easily win but just doesn't want to?

And what after the victory? What to do with the destroyed territory of Ukraine, which itself is begging around the world? That's all the parties and pretending. Ukraine, that it needs not controlled territories. Russia, that will not allow the current Ukraine there. The EU is that "concerned about the situation." The US is that they support Ukraine. The leadership of the LDNR is that there is a struggle against the Nazis for the "Russian world." - just a resource, and a renewable one, so ...

[Sapsan136]

The Russians do not consider themselves Ukrainians, and the Crimea does not believe that it crawled into Russia ... The Crimean Russians are not considered traitors ... but you are not Russian, you don’t understand ... You are sitting in Ukraine, and you need Russia only as cash cow, because people like you are considered traitors in the Russian Federation, moreover, you are strangers everywhere in the Russian Federation and Ukraine ..

[Sapsan136]

Yes, but today the attack on LDNR ends just like Mishiko’s attack on Tskhinval ...

[Svetlana]

Today to create new and modern samples of equipment not necessarily military, the presence of repair shops oh how not enough. We need research institutes, labs, an experimental base, and access to the elemental base of microelectronics.
Therefore, the publication of this, once again confirms that the "North Wind" is still blowing and "Voentorg" is working, which is good.

[rufaqn]

"north wind" was in August 14th and February 15th, now only "Voentorg".

[Amin_vivec]

The wind is like that, now blowing, then calm ... or even a hurricane.

[Starper-xnumx]

Donetsk People's Republic successfully tested new air defense system

As I recall 2015-, etc. How the militia snapped the air force in the air ... hehe
Generally beautiful! Since then, neither the fleet, nor the Air Force have been on the outskirts .. Yes, and in general, nothing is already there. Some svidomye on the Maidan gull are held on!

[rufaqn]

UA did not participate in the 15th Air Force, from the word at all.

[Starper-xnumx]

Quote: rufaqn

UA did not participate in the 15th Air Force, from the word at all.

But they flew and took aim all the same ..
Remember this famous video ..?

[rufaqn]

This is the 14th year.

[Starper-xnumx]

Quote: rufaqn

This is the 14th year.

Who cares .. Do you have a photo of the victims of the air raids?
Do not miss, but everything is fixed ..

[Amin_vivec]

One air conditioner comes to mind ...

[LiSiCyn]

In Debaltseve used. The truth is not active several times.

[rufaqn]

I have not heard about Debaltseve, I will not say, but for any Debaltseve in February, and Mikhan has a picture of the spring of the 14th year.

[Valery Valery]

Only respect and admiration !! Human heroes fighting for all of us!

[steelmaker]

Recognize and annex LDNR as Crimea and forget these Minsk agreements! And how many problems for Russia will be solved immediately. And we will create new problems without LDNR.
"If you are shot with a steel bullet,
do not endure, but fight back with a combat grenade! "

[Donald72]

People there are very sorry. But all we will buy are two warring republics with a ruined economy.

[Livonetc]

Economics is primarily people.
They are there.
And the production continues to work.
And having joined, these original Russian regions will immediately become peaceful subjects of our federation.
In the case of restlessness of the creatures from the nearby territory controlled from outside, an operation will be launched to force peace, with the liberation and cleansing of other already original Russian regions.
We will get a lot.
Free people.
Defend honor and dignity.
However, this option is currently unlikely.
Unfortunately.

[Donald72]

I completely abhor your opinion. But I suppose that in Ukraine it wouldn’t work out like in Georgia the armies are not comparable. The question is not the victory but the number of victims. And for the people of Ukraine, we could appear as not liberators but as invaders.

And what concerns human resources in the economy would be normal to master.

[Livonetc]

Quote: Donald72

I completely abhor your opinion. But I suppose that in Ukraine it wouldn’t work out like in Georgia the armies are not comparable. The question is not the victory but the number of victims. And for the people of Ukraine, we could appear as not liberators but as invaders.

And what concerns human resources in the economy would be normal to master.

For the peoples of Crimea, the Russian army was the liberator.
For the people of Transnistria, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, the Russian army was a defender.
So, in case of emergency, it will happen on the historically Russian territory of Malorosia.

[Donald72]

You may very well be right, but a mistake can be very expensive.

[carstorm 11]

and where did you get that everything will be so simple? do you propose within the borders that are now or if briefly along the front line? it turns out that at the borders hundreds of thousands of people will have to be concentrated in constant readiness. and keep them there for years. close the borders not only with Ukraine but also with everyone with whom they have open movement. and many many many more. we’ll tear ourselves and then we’ll not recover. war must begin only when you are sure that you will win.

[ultra]

Quote: Donald72

But all we will buy are two warring republics with a ruined economy.

We will "acquire" several million compatriots, this is the main thing.

[Amin_vivec]

Everything has its time. The Minsk agreements they not only affect us, the French Germans and Yusovtsy tied a lot of documents to them and a lot of words about sanctions and foreign policy ... So far, everything has gone in the right direction without war. No need to rush and sharpen.

[steelmaker]

All this could not be. If 2014 was Putin not polite, but decisive !!

[Donald72]

If you want to shoot, you can drive as a volunteer, you will be sincerely happy.

[Starper-xnumx]

Quote: steel maker

All this could not be. If 2014 was Putin not polite, but decisive !!

I remember, too, Putin shouted, send troops .. But there would be a lot of blood, we were pushed for this ..
But now it’s more interesting to watch how the junta gets out .. Kiev will surrender to us, I’m sure of that!

Quote: Donald72

If you want to shoot, you can drive as a volunteer, you will be sincerely happy.

Wishing, if that is a lot .... They will come, and even without an order, volunteers ..

[Donald72]

It is clear that there are people who wish, there were those who went on vacation at their own expense. But it’s individual people, or else they’ll enter the war.

[Starper-xnumx]

Quote: Donald72

It is clear that there are people who wish, there were those who went on vacation at their own expense. But it’s individual people, or else they’ll enter the war.

Hybrid warfare is a new strategic development of cunning Russians .. Soon all military strategy textbooks will be described in detail .. We learn from our mistakes!
We are few and in frontal attacks with the cry of Hur no longer have the opportunity to attack .. We survive, as we can.!

[72jora72]

It is clear that there are people who wish, there were those who went on vacation at their own expense.

I will tell you that there were a majority of these in 14, at my own expense, at your own peril and risk. The first wave of volunteers was generally amazing people.

[zombirusrev]

During the conflict between the United States and Libya in the 80s with RTOs of project 1234 (http://oruzhie.info/voennie-korabli/810-proekt-1234-shifr-ovod), several Harpun PCRs were shot with wasp.

[Nikolaevich I]

"Interestingly, the girls are dancing ... 4 pieces in a row!" Finally, I specifically heard about the Osa-AK / AKM air defense system of the DPR! There were "once" reports that after the defeat of the troops in the "Ilovaiskiy pot", the militia got the "Wasp" air defense system ... "Later, there were even reports (1-2 ...) that these" wasps " "Someone" was shot down ... But only the Strela-10M air defense system was present at all the festivities, parades in the LPNR ... I was already worried: where did the "Wasps ..." And now, soothing news, they are in place!

[Nikolaevich I]

PS By the way, the message about the modernization of the Osa-AK / AKM air defense system was quite intriguing! Yes ... it was the case that I myself declared that the "VPK" of the LPNR was capable of producing not only "banal" mortars, non-rollbacks, grenade launchers, MLRS; but also the release of modernized air defense systems, anti-tank systems based on "Strela-2", "Fagot", "Competition" ..., but, nevertheless, reports of an increase in altitude and range "plunged me into a state of shock!" It is necessary to really upgrade the rocket! Which, of course, is possible, but very difficult!

[Fraracol_2]

Blessed is he who believes ...

[Donald72]

I also thought that for such work there is no base, but they surprised me.

[Mimoprohodil]

Such range and altitude was originally

Range:
- 8-10 km (supersonic targets of the MiG-19 type, requirements of the resolution of the SM of 07,09,1964)
- 10-13 km (subsonic targets of the MiG-19 type, requirements of the CM resolution of 07,09,1964)
Damage height:
- 50-5000 m (supersonic targets of the MiG-19 type, requirements of the SM resolution of 07,09,1964)
- 50-7000 m (subsonic targets of the MiG-19 type, requirements of the CM resolution of 07,09,1964)

[Nikolaevich I]

Everything is ambiguous here ... There is TTX, but there is TP ... You brought the resolution of the SM from 07.09.1964/750/314, but you did not give the numbering of this SM! And I know the decree of SM No. 08.09.1964-XNUMX of XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX. ... This is important; because
, the regulations have changed! Zuras for "Wasp ..." were developed in several modifications and had "indexes": 9M33, 9M33M, 9M33M2, 9M33M3 ... I have repeatedly read in different sources the TTX zur "Wasps ..." If we reduce this information to "one ", then the most (!) recurring (mentioned) characteristics: slope range -9 km; dog.on height-5 km (9M33 ...) / slope range-10 km; dog in height-5 km (9M33M3) with a weight of zur from 125 (126) kg to 128 kg with warhead = 15 kg (on average ...)

[Mimoprohodil]

Well, Belarusians in their modernized Osa 9K33-1T wrote such characteristics. And the missiles there remained the old 9M33M2, 9M33M3

[Nikolaevich I]

Already after the "death" of the Union, I met a message that a new modification of the 9M33 ... was developed in the "one office" in order to modernize the complex. Unfortunately, my memory has not preserved the details ... I cannot say for sure whether it was in Russia or in Belarus ... I cannot remember the designation of the rocket either. But I also met in the internet such a designation as 9M33M5 ...

[sivuch]

We look at pic. 2.50 BM lesion area and Fig. 2.51 horizontal section of the affected area BM. In the manual on the Wasp

[ppolch]

In the early 90s in Nagorno-Karabakh, the Armenian Wasp shot down an Azerbaijani plane. The calculation commander studied at our academy in Tver, information from him.

[sivuch]

So there were a few shot down,
Another conflict, where the Osa was actively used, was the war in Nagorno-Karabakh / Artsakh between the Armenian and Azerbaijani armed forces of 1992-1994. Initially, only the Azerbaijani side had combat aircraft, and the defense army of the self-proclaimed Nagorno-Karabakh Republic had only an extremely limited amount of air defense equipment. However, in May 1992, the so-called Lachin corridor between Artsakh and Armenia, after which the transfer of equipment began, including and air defense. So, in August 3 BM OSK-Osa-AK were transported. Until the end of the conflict, i.e. Until May 1994, according to Armenian data, 15 enemy planes and helicopters were shot down or damaged. Of course, there were much less reliable victories - 09.10.1992/24/15 in the area of ​​s. Malibeyli of the Shusha region was shot down by the Su-1993 MR (Alexander Chernousov - Manaf Nabiev). Both pilots died. On January 21, 21, in the area between the villages of Arachadzor and Syrzavend of the Agderinsky district, Mig-17 was shot down (A. Chistyakov). Anatoly Chistyakov catapulted, but was captured by the Armenians. It is very likely that Mig-1994, shot down on February XNUMX, XNUMX over the Fizuli region (pilot M. Ikshneyev) is also the work of the Wasp (according to some reports, it was jointly Osa and MANPADS).
There were 2 more victories, which, however, the Armenian air defense could not be proud of at all - on September 4, 1992, the Armenian Su-25 was shot down (by Mr. Melik Melikyan). Here, however, you can understand the anti-aircraft gunners - before that, all the planes in the air were only the enemy. On March 17, the C-130 of the Iranian Air Force was mistakenly shot down. But here the dubious honor is shared by Wasp Krug Circle.

[72jora72]

Quote: Donald72

If you want to shoot, you can drive as a volunteer, you will be sincerely happy.

This hourvolunteers in terms of precisely 14-15 years in the Donbass is not. There are Corps, First and Second.

[svoit]

Quote: carstorm 11

as an army that has lost everything, it turns out that it can easily win but just does not want

The answer to this question has already been given many times, the main reason is the Russian Federation (and Ukraine is well aware of this), its determination to intervene if necessary, if large-scale Russian assistance is excluded (by political pressure or whatever), then the illusions that LDNR will hold out probably not. Unfortunately, time (and the active help of the West) plays into the hands of Bandera.
PS And you still have more schizophrenia, sorry

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

It is good that in the Donbass from air defense there is not only MANPADS.

[Klingon]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Quote: Fraancol_2

And what are the cons to the revolver? What didn’t you like?

For the fact that he with his phrase - "As if they did not substitute another civilian board. They will become." - As if confirms that the notorious board was shot down by the LDNR.

learn to read between the lines. For example, I immediately realized that people. banderlogov had in mind and not LDNR.
or here some with logic are bad

[Klingon]

Quote: krot

The "litaks" have less and less chances to bomb the cities of the LPNR!

even less chance given that the dill gathered turbo-propeller Toucans to buy

[hump]

They would create a DNR-600, so that Ukrainians would stop flying at all

[Glory Ponomarev]

What did the Ukrainians bother you with? Maybe it’s better to return the territory to Ukraine, people in Slavyansk will live quietly)

[max91]

They live! Maybe they exist? When were you there yourself? Before scratching my tongue, I'd better go there. And the Ukrainians do not bother anyone, only kakeli provoke discontent, who live well, as you put it, but forgot to add - at the expense of others.

[max91]

The possibility of detecting air targets of the OSA-AKM air defense missile system at a distance of up to 65 km and their destruction at an altitude of up to 7 km and a range of up to 15 km. this is already a serious problem for the Ukrainian Armed Forces and they still have to reckon with it. They will not get off with fakes alone. But I think that the militias also have a torus shell. it would be a betrayal if Russia did not supply them.