AFU Colonel: Ready to reintegrate with the Russian military, but not with the right-wing radicals of Ukraine

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In Ukraine, a scandal erupted over a statement by Colonel Alexei Nozdrachev, head of the Civil-Military Cooperation Directorate of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. During the round table on the search for “new solutions to old problems”, the Ukrainian colonel announced the readiness of the Ukrainian military to “reintegrate with the Russian military and the separatists of the Donbass.”

According to Alexey Nozdrachev, there are certain military traditions, and therefore, “even those with whom we fought, and those who fought against us, reintegrate very quickly in the case of a political decision.”



Colonel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine:

And you can find a common language for military Russians and military Ukrainians, even if they were enemies.

At the same time, the Ukrainian officer said that it is much more difficult with a political solution to the issue of Ukrainian right-wing radicals, the APU is not ready to "integrate" with them in the current political situation.

From the statement of Nozdrachev:

But do not forget that there are radical movements that are not controlled by the state. (...) Right-wing radicalism has now been released uncontrollably, and there is no state policy regarding the reintegration of precisely these veterans into state policy and reintegration into initiatives.

The colonel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine recalled "Azov" (* an extremist armed group banned in the Russian Federation). According to him, radicalism has reached such proportions that the US Congress was going to recognize the Azov regiment as a terrorist organization.

After that, negative statements from the part of the Ukrainian society that expresses the interests of the radicals literally rained down on Colonel Nozdrachev. There were also comments with direct threats to the Ukrainian colonel for his words.


Recall that the OSCE reports have repeatedly reported that the presence of the Russian Armed Forces in the Donbass is not observed.
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    1. +49
      13 December 2019 07: 18
      And then the "aggressive tithe" with chevrons and tattoos yelled and stamped their feet, cluttered the Internet, inflating itself and showing how huge and terrible it is ... wassat It turned out, well, not everyone in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is the Nazis. And not everyone was intimidated by Natsik ...
      1. -1
        13 December 2019 07: 22
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Well, not everything in the APU - the Nazis
        Not all, but after the Donbass "to integrate" with ukrovoinami? The Martians must attack us, no less! Because with the Americans and Europoland, ukrovoinstvo will be at the same time, with a very high probability.
        1. +26
          13 December 2019 08: 05
          By the way ... If the US Congress recognizes "Azov" as a terrorist organization ... Will they be bombed?))

          Maybe inform US congressmen that the right-wing radicals of Ukraine in trousers are hidden oil and gas?)
          1. +7
            13 December 2019 08: 35
            Quote: Ilya-spb
            By the way ... If the US Congress recognizes "Azov" as a terrorist organization ... Will they be bombed?))

            ---------------------------
            I mean to bomb? On the contrary, a package of military assistance with lethal means was approved for Ukraine. Recently, the news was.
            1. +9
              13 December 2019 09: 08
              . Colonel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: Ready to reintegrate with Russian militarybut not with the right-wing radicals of Ukraine

              In the case of a campaign in the South-East of Ukraine in 2014, during anarchy, these statements would sound especially loud. Would be greeted as liberators!
              1. +10
                13 December 2019 13: 48
                Yes, and now, in general, too! smile
                After all, the alien Galitsai banderva, their "Svidomo" marginal "lohtorat" and "Ukrainian" klepto "w / Bandera" nedofuehrer "are occupiers on the territory of the ex-Ukrainian SSR ... they look like occupiers, they speak like occupiers and behave like occupiers, real enemies the majority of the Ukrainian population!

                But, alas, many good Russian people in our Southeast, who in 2014 would have survived, now they are no longer in this world, and those are far ...
          2. +3
            13 December 2019 10: 09
            If the truth comes to the point, here ours can help.
          3. +7
            13 December 2019 11: 25
            that the US Congress was going to recognize the Azov regiment as a terrorist organization.
            So is Ukraine a sponsor of terrorism?
        2. +9
          13 December 2019 09: 43
          The Germans in the GDR were made allies. Although in that war the slogan "kill the German" was normal and justified. Those in Ukraine who did not participate in the genocide may well.
          1. +6
            13 December 2019 12: 57
            Quote: Lead
            The Germans in the GDR were made allies.

            The Germans have never been a part of us. Therefore, it was possible to ally with them at the end of the armed struggle, and very fruitfully. Seriously cleansing of particularly zealous Nazis. Ukrainians were part of us and betrayed us. In order for confidence to return to them, they need to work really hard. When we were shown the story of how one Ukrainian helicopter pilot abandoned his wounded comrade, taking his weapons, I thought that something was wrong with them in the army. And when after this information began to flow abundantly, as the Armed Forces shock and enthusiastically kill their own unarmed civilian population, he was convinced that we would no longer serve in the same army for very long or even never. It is not for nothing that they say that a heretic is worse than an infidel.
            1. +2
              13 December 2019 18: 44
              Quote: Den717
              The Germans have never been a part of us. Therefore, it was possible to ally with them at the end of the armed struggle, and very fruitfully. Seriously cleansing of particularly zealous Nazis. Ukrainians were part of us and betrayed us. In order for confidence to return to them, they need to work really hard.

              Why do we need them? We forgave the Germans because they turned out to be a defeated enemy, and mercy has been shown to this category since ancient times. But to forgive the traitors is not in our principles, and even Mazepa’s example is well traced.
              So why should we forgive Ukrainians for betraying the memory of our dead ancestors?
            2. +5
              13 December 2019 18: 44
              Quote: Den717
              The Germans have never been a part of us. Therefore, it was possible to ally with them at the end of the armed struggle, and very fruitfully. Seriously cleansing of particularly zealous Nazis. Ukrainians were part of us and betrayed us. In order for confidence to return to them, they need to work really hard.

              Why do we need them? We forgave the Germans because they turned out to be a defeated enemy, and mercy has been shown to this category since ancient times. But to forgive the traitors is not in our principles, and even Mazepa’s example can be clearly traced, which even the church anathematized.
              So why should we forgive Ukrainians for the betrayal of the memory of our dead ancestors and ourselves in the difficult moment of the collapse of the USSR? Someone can and will follow the words of various figures from Ukraine, but for us it will be a fatal mistake if we again accept their repentance for a sincere act. They just realized what they were in and are now looking for ways to milk Russia again, this is the real reason for their "epiphany".
            3. 0
              14 December 2019 12: 05
              "A German settlement under Peter the Great? Germans on the throne of Russia? Biron and Bironovism? No, you haven't heard!"
              1. +3
                14 December 2019 12: 34
                Quote: AllBiBek
                "A German settlement under Peter the Great? Germans on the throne of Russia? Biron and Bironovism? No, you haven't heard!"

                So you can write Africa through Pushkin in family ties ... The scale of mixing cultures is not the same. The presence of isolated figures of German nationality did not determine the mental relationship between Russians and Germans. Ukraine is a completely different matter.
                1. +1
                  14 December 2019 12: 42
                  Nevertheless, from the 16th to the 19th century, the closest European people who had a cultural influence on Russia were just the Germans. It's another matter that Otto von Bismarck blinded them into a relatively unified nation only by the end of the 19th century, but this is a completely different and vast topic. In any case, the Germans as a nation were the last to form in Europe, but even with all this, there was still a quarter of a century before the concept of "Ukrainian" appeared; There were little crops then, Novorosy - too, but then even the Galicians did not call themselves Ukrainians. This is also a long and very hackneyed topic, and it’s not about it. So I don’t argue, we are one people.
            4. -2
              14 December 2019 20: 11
              Shaw you mean, who betrayed you ?? a devotee you are ours. All. You have around you only traitors.
              1. +1
                14 December 2019 22: 20
                Quote: Steffan
                Who are you betraying ??

                I didn’t drink vodka with you .... If you weren’t told in childhood what is good and how it differs from bad, then today it does not make sense. I’m not going to teach you. Are you happy with everything? Eat, do not slap yourself ...
                1. -1
                  14 December 2019 22: 40
                  Take cotton wool out of your head in Ukraine - all the bad ones! How did you get the "correct" stoned velikorossy. Do not forget to pray to Putin at night.
                  1. +1
                    15 December 2019 10: 22
                    Quote: Steffan
                    how did you get the "correct" stoned Great Russians

                    Why then climb into other people's resources? Sniff your burnt tires and enjoy the views of the ruins of your economy.
                    Quote: Steffan
                    don't forget to pray to Putin for the night

                    We even have someone. And whoever you choose, everyone will sell you for personal well-being. What are the former presidents, what is the current one.
                    Quote: Steffan
                    in Ukraine, everything is bad!

                    Well, how else? If they were good, then from the fifth European economy today they would have risen at least even the fourth, and today you are competing with the lower part of the countries of the African continent. Do you consider this a great achievement? Given your frenzied hostility, I am more pleased with your fall than upset. Weakening the enemy is in our favor. And to whom I really pray, it is not your concern. Enthusiastic snot yourself do not choke laughing I will leave your next post without attention. You, as a descendant of the diggers of the Black Sea, have nothing to explain to me by personality and attitude towards Vlasov. There’s no sense anyway ...
                    1. -1
                      15 December 2019 15: 55
                      What kind of frenzied hostility did you see in Ukraine? Open your eyes! Come to Kherson, Nikolaev, Odessa, Dnipro, Poltava, Kharkov, at least in Kiev and ask how ordinary people relate to Russia and Russian people! And you will see clearly! most adequate people are positive! HOSTILITY AT YOUR HEAD! Free.
                      1. +1
                        15 December 2019 18: 27
                        Quote: Steffan
                        ask how ordinary people relate to Russia and to Russian people!

                        Ordinary people do not form government policy. You, ordinary people, were "meant" by the chosen politicians. You gave them the opportunity to rummage in your pockets and break off relations with us on your behalf. You have chosen those who give orders to kill civilians in your own country. Therefore, you, simple ones, are also responsible for all the crimes that your chosen ones commit. Let it go
                        Quote: Steffan
                        most adequate people are positive!

                        Who in your country is interested in your opinion? An opinion is worth something when it gives rise to some kind of action. And you, along with the "simple" ones, have even simpler ones, those that are trying to break through our borders, trying to organize terrorist attacks in the Crimea, tearing the pillars of power lines, blocking the canal built by the entire Union. There is no sense from your kitchen "non-hostility", from the word "absolutely nothing". You chose a new president on the hopes of stopping the war, and he turned out to be the same as the previous one. And what's the use of your "adequate". Sit in kitchens, write stuff on anonymous networks, and they kill yours in real life. So you are free, digest, count the broken Lenins in your city, the streets of Bandera / Shukhevych. Think about where you will come in the short term.
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                        2. +2
                          16 December 2019 18: 54
                          Quote: Steffan
                          And you have 2/3 of the population went and voted for Pu, and he raised the retirement age

                          And what does it show? Yes, he made an unpopular decision. Not all decisions are made by a normal ruler for the sake of ratings. Pills are also bitter. But Putin doesn’t call Zelensky an enemy, and the government doesn’t break people's ties and does not call Ukraine an aggressor or a terrorist in its laws.
                          Quote: Steffan
                          no mass landing of officials

                          Landing officials is not a sport for the crowd to demand. This action should always be targeted, and not as in 1937. But it’s not for you to tell whom to plant. Take care of your affairs.
                          Quote: Steffan
                          you are in the same swamp stand next to us

                          We have enough problems, of course. And there is a lot of dirt under your feet, especially since you are adding it pretty much to us, but standing in the same swamp with Bandera is too much. You yourself somehow, without us. And we are without you. hi
                        3. 0
                          18 December 2019 12: 48
                          I and the millions around me are the same Bandera as you are. Take cotton wool out of my head.
                        4. 0
                          18 December 2019 13: 56
                          Quote: Steffan
                          I and millions around me are the same Bandera as you

                          You chose this power (Zelensky and the "servant of the people"? So you are in solidarity with her. Do you agree that Ze is wiping his nose with a crying utyrk? So answer.
                        5. -1
                          18 December 2019 15: 40
                          I did not vote for ZELTSA. BUT YOUR logic should have voted for Gunpowder? Yes? Answer honestly, you have a dicky version and a very dicky one, which one do you choose from? The same and it you tryndet only, your arguments or bullshit Or they are not. Tryndi further.
                        6. 0
                          18 December 2019 16: 22
                          Quote: Steffan
                          I did not vote for ZELETS. But, according to YOUR logic, it was necessary to vote for Gunpowder?

                          I do not want to tell you whom to vote for. In general, I don’t mean you personally, because you can write anything you want. I see that 73% voted for him with a turnout of over 60%. And you had and have more than two options. But the problem is not even the number of options. And the fact that you are non-negotiable, even within society. For example, you are rude to a stranger only because his opinion does not coincide with yours. How to negotiate with you and seek a compromise? And there are a lot of you there, even in the political class. Because this is how your country develops, anyhow ...
                        7. 0
                          18 December 2019 12: 57
                          Yeah, in a country in which there is half a trillion dollars of gold reserves, a welfare fund or whatever is over 7% of GDP, which has more wealth than all countries combined and all this good is sold for currency, NO GET A LARGE OF OLD OLDS FOR GIVING!? ?? or are you holding me for an idiot? and all the rest.
                        8. 0
                          18 December 2019 13: 59
                          Quote: Steffan
                          Yeah, in a country in which the gold and foreign currency reserves are half a trillion dollars, a welfare fund or whatever is stuffed over 7% of GDP, which has more wealth than all countries combined

                          And you don’t count someone else’s. What is ours is ours. We will arrange it ourselves, we won’t ask you.
                          Quote: Steffan
                          or are you holding me for an idiot?

                          For more, you, sorry, do not pull ....
                        9. 0
                          18 December 2019 15: 36
                          Yeah. But on the topic there is something to say? ON THE TOPIC. I don't give a damn how much you have. I don’t care. In the granaries the dough isn’t measured! problems at the expense of the elderly, and people like you justify it ???
                        10. 0
                          18 December 2019 16: 32
                          Quote: Steffan
                          Yeah. And on the topic is there something to say? BY TOPIC. I don’t care how much you have. I don’t care. In the bins the dough is not measured!

                          And how to discuss a topic with you if you do not ask it? You say that we have a lot of "dough" in our bins. How much is a lot? Do you know where this "loot" is intended? It seems to me that you are not quite aware of what money is and how it should be disposed of, what reserves and for what cases to create. Your vision of the problems solved at the expense of the elderly is very interesting. In short, you are not a very intelligible interlocutor. Are you worried or something like that in life? If you want to talk, choose a respectful tone and articulate your thought clearly ...
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          2. 0
            13 December 2019 17: 04
            Quote: Lead
            The Germans in the GDR were made allies. Although in that war the slogan "kill the German" was normal and justified.

            It would be more normal and justified: "Kill the fascist, kill the occupier!"
          3. +5
            13 December 2019 17: 33
            Quote: Lead
            The Germans in the GDR were made allies. Although in that war the slogan "kill the German" was normal and justified.

            hi
            This phenomenon turned out to be temporary and once again proving that Germany is not our ally and never will be, a buyer and a colleague in trade - let it be, but even then with an eye to foul. Well, in war, as in war, whether it is a German, Italian, Bulgarian, Romanian or Japanese - to kill the enemy or he will kill you. Yes
            1. +9
              13 December 2019 17: 41
              This we were not an ally of the GDR when we betrayed all the countries of the Warsaw bloc, and not the Germans.
              1. +1
                13 December 2019 17: 53
                Quote: Lead
                This we were not an ally of the GDR when we betrayed all the countries of the Warsaw bloc, and not the Germans.

                hi
                There is some truth in your post, but only a fraction. Considering the speed with which our former "compatriots" and "brothers in arms" moved into the enemy camp, the question arises: were they really such and what (purely hypothetically) would have happened in the case of the 3rd MV? A stab in the back as with the same "forest brothers", "Bandera", the "krai army" and Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia who fought in the Nazi troops? Now it is at least clear who is a friend, who is a fellow traveler, who is an enemy, and who is an outright enemy. Yes
                1. +6
                  13 December 2019 17: 55
                  And where would they go if the EBN left everyone? Everyone says that the Germans from the Warsaw bloc were our most devoted allies.
                  1. +4
                    13 December 2019 18: 09
                    Quote: Lead
                    Everyone says that the Germans from the Warsaw bloc were our most devoted allies.


                    The army and intelligence - yes, they were assistants and, as it were, allies, but they did not determine the policy of the state, and there were too many pro-Western-minded in the leadership of the GDR, and thousands of people jumped through the "Berlin Wall". We considered the Bulgarians to be the most loyal (I'm not talking about our blood brothers - Ukrainians), and what are these brothers doing now in relation to their liberator and defender? So - with a proverb: "God save me from such friends, and I will get rid of enemies myself."
                    1. +4
                      14 December 2019 10: 52
                      The people in the GDR thrashed through the wall in thousands by breaking it only at the end of 1989 after the press conference of the new leadership of the GDR,
                      Prior to this, desperate units trying to escape to the west faithfully shot the valiant border guards of the GDR
                      In general, we must not forget that the Germans are really very collectivist to the herd, easily managed and obedient people,
                      They then came up with socialism for themselves, national
        3. +9
          13 December 2019 14: 27
          The army - it is the army. There will be an order - they will execute it. It's not a problem. And those who were the biggest patriots of Nenko, at once will wear the ribbons of the guards.
          Polkan talked about something else. About the fact that both the VSU and the nm are armies. which means they can get in. But the gangs of various law enforcement officers are gang groups, not army units.
          1. +3
            14 December 2019 01: 51
            Quote: g1v2
            About the fact that both the VSU and the nm are armies. which means they can get in. But the gangs of various law enforcement officers are gang groups, not army units.

            just don’t forget that despite all the slogans, the main destruction and killings in the Donbass were committed by VSU !!! negative negative negative am
            1. 0
              14 December 2019 15: 01
              This is their job. The country became Nazi, which means the army will follow the orders of the Nazis. Someone else will come and the army will carry out their orders. Almost the entire National Guard consists of former Vovans, who, together with Berkut, stood against the Maidan. Alpha SBU too. request
        4. +1
          13 December 2019 15: 32
          Most people in Ukraine, as well as in the army, have a negative attitude towards the 2014 coup, civil war and banderlogs, but alas, those in power who are not just happy with this are in power, they make money on it.
          1. +1
            13 December 2019 19: 10
            And what prevented him from leaving the army? There are pencil leads to eat up, or what the deviators do there, I don’t know ... Probably didn’t want to.
            1. 0
              13 December 2019 19: 34
              As the Bible says: "Do not judge, lest you be judged."
              1. +1
                13 December 2019 20: 27
                Um, well, I’ll know that VO is just that place where you can discuss the sixth commandment, Leo Tolstoy, Cathars, Buddha, non-resistance to evil by violence ... Well, no. Excuse me. Anyone who has not quit the Armed Forces of Ukraine within 14-15 years, or has not switched to the right side, for that I see no excuses. A family? Well, evacuate her in front of you ... Or what? Is a son better to have a traitor father? Spitting on the graves of grandfathers? And grow yourself like that?
                1. 0
                  13 December 2019 21: 33
                  A young man, the Germans in 1933 also thought that this was purely accidental and not for long.
                  1. +2
                    14 December 2019 05: 56
                    And it ended in Berlin in the 45th. Which was taken including Ukrainians. And then their grandchildren and great-grandchildren became like those whom the Soviet people defeated. It is proposed to understand and forgive?
          2. +3
            14 December 2019 01: 52
            Quote: TermNachTER
            Most people in Ukraine, as well as in the army,

            then they are not masters in their country !!!
            1. 0
              14 December 2019 13: 53
              Did you just find out about this? The masters of Ukraine are sitting in Washington and Brussels. And this happened with the tacit consent of Moscow.
              1. +1
                14 December 2019 19: 06
                Quote: TermNachTER
                Did you just find out about this? The masters of Ukraine are sitting in Washington and Brussels. And this happened with the tacit consent of Moscow.

                Moscow should stand up and help those who are not masters in their country and they are on the drum before what is happening in it ??? !!! drinks wassat wassat wassat
                1. -1
                  14 December 2019 20: 11
                  So, why now they started to worry? Moscow was supposed to have a pro-Russian politician in Kiev, and not be guided by anyone - just anyone who shouts more about love for Russia.
        5. 0
          15 December 2019 01: 27
          It seems to me that he veiledly said that during a severe aggravation of the situation with the Republics, or even more so the intervention of Russia, they are ready to go over to our side.
      2. +4
        13 December 2019 10: 35
        ... and not everything is lost yet. Natsik will still hang on the branches. The main thing is not to cut the ends permanently.
      3. +3
        13 December 2019 13: 03
        Well, Natsik and APU are different people. APU is involuntary draftees you want, you do not want. Natsik and then Rikal. when we lived right on the combat zone and I pass the block of posts remove the chivrons and you don’t understand where the APU is where the militias are. but Natsik immediately they are visible gentlemen and all the rest is garbage.
    2. +31
      13 December 2019 07: 19
      Brave colonel! Fundamental ...

      True, he has already changed his mind laughing :

      “Dear military personnel, veterans, Ukrainians !!! Today, during the round table, I made a big mistake, incorrectly speaking out with respect to veterans and military personnel performing tasks in the fight against Russian aggression. I frankly made a mistake in my statements and ask me to forgive this mistake. I completely did not express the opinion of the leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it is my fault, and I am aware of it ”(https://fakty.ua/327659-priznal-svoyu-oshibku-zayavivshij-ob-integracii-s-boevikami-polkovnik-zapisal- pokayannoe-video).
      1. +37
        13 December 2019 07: 25
        And this is already unimportant. Burst out - from the heart ... This is more important.
        1. +5
          13 December 2019 09: 01
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          And this is already unimportant. Burst out - from the heart ... This is more important.

          One feels Natsik already got the Ukrainian army, the statements of the colonel, this is a cry of the soul. But neither the president nor the government wants to see this, or they are simply afraid of the Nazis.
          1. +5
            13 December 2019 12: 29
            Everyone understands that the fate of the stormtroopers Ram is waiting for Natsik, but they are either afraid to give an order, or not yet time.
          2. +2
            13 December 2019 13: 08
            Natsik already felt

            So after all, Natsik from 404, this is a marginal sect, they will get anyone.
            Poor gangster structure with completely crazy ideas.
            This is some kind of low-quality parody of the Reich.
            And wonderful, they have done so many troubles, and if there weren’t clowns, maybe the third world would have begun ....
            1. 0
              13 December 2019 13: 15
              Quote: bk316
              Poor gangster structure with completely crazy ideas.

              Judging by the times of the 40s, their controllability was at a very high level, but their ideas were crazy all the time. At least their main idea is "Our enemies are Poles, Magyars, Jews and Muscovites."
        2. +3
          13 December 2019 12: 59
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          And this is already unimportant. Burst out - from the heart ... This is more important.

          Do not harbor empty illusions. These are worthy heirs of Mazepa.
          1. +3
            13 December 2019 15: 03
            I’m reading this colonel, and I want to quote Klitschko. Absolutely no mockery or irony.
            And today, tomorrow, not everyone can watch. Rather, not only everyone can watch. Few can do this.
      2. +8
        13 December 2019 07: 25
        The leadership of this normal colonel, still rotten and cowardly, hopes to slip between the tricks.
      3. +24
        13 December 2019 07: 47
        Quote: Finches
        True, he has already changed his mind

        He didn't change his mind, he changed his mind. I can imagine what kind of "educational" work they did, that they quickly repented, as they say, "on the spot."
        1. +3
          13 December 2019 09: 03
          They remembered his family, a ruined career, work at least for the GRU ... Davanuli tight!
        2. +6
          13 December 2019 09: 04
          Quote: orionvitt
          I can imagine what kind of "educational" work they did,

          Each person has a "weak link" - a family. And the methods of education of the Natsiks remained the same as in the 40s of the last century.
      4. +4
        13 December 2019 08: 37
        Quote: Finches
        True, he has already changed his mind

        -------------------
        The first word is more expensive than the second ... laughing And the back word was probably caused by the conversation about life in the SBU. In general, again "taken out of context" as I understood the colonel's statement. laughing
        1. +1
          13 December 2019 09: 10
          Quote: Altona
          And the back word was probably caused by a conversation for life in the SBU.

          Most likely, a "gift" in the form of a brick with a tied "Shpansky noose" came from those against whom he spoke out.
      5. +23
        13 December 2019 08: 56
        Quote: Finches
        Brave colonel! Fundamental ...

        True, he has already changed his mind

        So who would doubt that ?! Nationalists in an independent country are now very influential, and being a Natsik there is now very profitable. The ns made their bet on them, no matter what they say. Even Zelensky did not dare to go without Avakov to the summit. And the leadership of Ukraine will never be free in its actions until it resets Natsik. In my amateurish opinion, this can be done in 3 ways:
        1. Power methods from the outside. But nobody needs it yet and the consequences of the intervention are unpredictable.
        2. Forceful methods from the inside. We need a "partisan detachment without a traitor" of current or former security officials, political will and money. At the moment, I think the scenario is unlikely.
        3. Discrediting the very idea of ​​Ukrainian nationalism. To do this, Zelensky needs to announce the creation of a new organization: Дobrovolic Уkrainsky Пcountry Аrmiya. And the main goal of this organization is to make the liberation of Crimea. Why start the formation of military units for the power version of the solution to the problem. If Bandera do not want to go to war (such as no du-ku), then what kind of heroes are they after that? And if they go, then the road is there for them. It’s not on the Dobass that Russian airborne divisions are smashing.
        I here for Zelensky wrote to the nation (to the Natsiks):

        Who is at war with Moscow - come out one by one
        Let's storm the border, the one in the Crimea
        We will regain the Donbass, squeeze Gazprom gas
        M-lei, we will immediately drive away for the Urals and for the Caucasus
        It seems that M-lei has a lot of ships
        Tanks, guns, machine guns, and other pretzels
        So, the information is correct and the whole country knows it
        What is their armor made of cardboard, tin, sticks and Mr.
        Well, if, gentlemen, which of you put on your pants
        Geth of the right-hander. We don’t need asses
        In general, hear my order: tomorrow at the earliest hour
        Harness, clap, horses and attack, hangover
        To take Russia in full, I give you five days
        And no more. Holiday is coming. I speak at the Christmas trees
        Yes, I almost forgot:
        The president of Africa here sent a present for you
        Boards, nails, red velvet, bleach, tarpaulin
        Cellophane bags, with peg numbers
        Plastic flowers and a container of pies
        Tearfully touching a tear:
        Donald Trump is such a bagati. Celebrate the holiday in a leather house
        1. +10
          13 December 2019 11: 19
          Quote: Polite Elk
          Дobrovolic Уkrainsky Пcountry Аrmiya.

          laughing Thank you for your courtesy, dear "Polite Elk"! He laughed heartily!
      6. +1
        13 December 2019 09: 59
        The first phrase is his true thinking, the second is a struggle for his life
    3. -1
      13 December 2019 07: 19
      After that, negative statements from the part of the Ukrainian society that expresses the interests of the radicals literally rained down on Colonel Nozdrachev. There were also comments with direct threats to the Ukrainian colonel for his words.

      Shaw can be assumed with a high degree of probability ... this "kitty" pee-pee-a fluffy northern animal crept up and very soon it will hide, if not yet!
      1. +3
        13 December 2019 09: 12
        Quote: rocket757
        with a high degree of probability ... a fluffy northern animal crept up to this "kitty"

        One man had the courage, but the furry northern animals had already sharpened their teeth.
        1. 0
          13 December 2019 10: 40
          Quote: tihonmarine
          One man had the courage, but the furry northern animals had already sharpened their teeth.

          There certainly are not fluffy northern sipatyashki !!! there is another flock ....
          A man expressed his opinion .... what can I say, MAN! But there are no such people there, they don’t want to.
          1. +1
            13 December 2019 12: 11
            Quote: rocket757
            There certainly are not fluffy northern sipatyashki !!! there is another flock ..

            Then we specify, small (not quite) animals on Wikipedia
            Common jackal, or Asiatic jackal, a mammal from the canine family. Towards the beginning of the XNUMXst century, the jackal range in Europe advanced far north, reaching the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, and Odessa region of Ukraine,
        2. +2
          14 December 2019 01: 57
          Quote: tihonmarine
          One man got courage

          men are all there on the territory of LDNR !!! request request
    4. +7
      13 December 2019 07: 22
      Well, all this he put a "cross" on his career with this statement, he will not see peace. These same kala rights will be remembered for him.
    5. +4
      13 December 2019 07: 49
      Little by little they begin to "turn on the back".
      "The military, they say, will understand each other, but we don't like Natsiks either."
      Good entry. Let's see what happens next ...
      The main thing is to be deposited in the brain: "Donbass cannot be won!"
      1. +3
        13 December 2019 07: 55
        The main thing is to be deposited in the brain: "Donbass cannot be won!"

        Here is another, no one wants to die.
      2. +2
        13 December 2019 09: 16
        Quote: Paul Siebert
        Good entry. Let's see what happens next ..

        And what's next, dismissal from the army without a pension, and the unkind looks of neighbors and the sarcastic grins of former colleagues and from the back shouting "I was doing it!"
    6. 0
      13 December 2019 07: 55
      someone farted undermined ... ha ha)))
    7. -4
      13 December 2019 08: 08
      Saldat said he was Saldat. There will be an order to shoot will shoot, there will be an order to be friends and will carry it out. He simply "subtly hinted" that it would be difficult to make friends with the armed and not sane.
      1. +5
        13 December 2019 08: 30
        Excuse me, do you have the word soldier derived from the word fat? Or is trolling so thin?
    8. -4
      13 December 2019 08: 43
      He wants to live ... He knows if I come, their freemen will end ... We wait when they zae ... annoy Europe, etc. and then we'll come. By themselves, they mean nothing.
    9. +5
      13 December 2019 08: 45
      Brain Alexei was killed for this and ...
    10. +3
      13 December 2019 08: 57
      He said it was possible from the heart and with a share of courage for the country in which he is, because obviously boiling up. Therefore, what followed was to follow where the Natsik rule the ball. The fact that there are constant skirmishes between the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Bats, do not hide even in Ukraine. But while the insolent and not prosecuted minority dictates its lifestyle and behavior of the rest of the population, nothing will change.
    11. 0
      13 December 2019 09: 15
      We are also pleased to integrate with the Urainian military. It is advisable at the table and with a burner))) Enough is enough, they have fought ..
    12. +3
      13 December 2019 09: 19
      Brave colonel, the truth cuts the uterus. He understands that he is stirring up a hornet's nest, but he is saying the right words. What is it for?
    13. +2
      13 December 2019 09: 22
      It is not easy for Colonel Nozdrachev now, these right-wing radicals will just slander him, and those in power simply will not intervene for him, because they are afraid of them more than fire.
    14. +1
      13 December 2019 09: 22
      And with the inhabitants of Donbass, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are ready, to reintegrate ,,? ... Especially, with those whose relatives died ...
    15. -1
      13 December 2019 09: 41
      And you can find a common language for military Russians and military Ukrainians, even if they were enemies.

      Key phrase, common sense, right decision ...
      Apparently, not all and all were placed under brown banners ...
      Bravo, Colonel!
    16. 0
      13 December 2019 09: 42
      Yes, most of the military over 30 in the APU think so! The school is still the same with them - they taught to fight, and not to carry out punitive operations against civilians and partisans! Donbass residents themselves do not attack anyone, and their grandfathers defend their land from the Nazis. Here are VSUshniki and see that they are being used stupidly. There is no aggression against Ukraine, there are no terrorist attacks, the population fully supports both Donbass their choice and their army, and Crimea their choice, and the fables from Kiev are 100% obvious lies! Do not hide the truth! By the way, lthe best option now for Ukraine is a riot and an army coup! APU stands against Natsik and with some of the joined forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, amicably defends Ukraine from the Nazis ..! There is only one question - who dares to lead? But the people of Ukraine, after a clear preponderance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in force and after the first sweeps and victories, will support 100% Yes, and there are many people who want to finance it. The question is the leader!
      1. 0
        13 December 2019 12: 43
        Yeah, not for that, the Americans grew the Natsik for so long. so that it’s so easy to give them along with Ukraine. For such a scenario to pass, the person who will lead this coup must be pro-Russian and, accordingly, enlist the support of the Russian Federation. And if the coup succeeds, the United States simply recognizes all as terrorists, and the Russian Federation as the sponsor of terrorism (they already want to do this). Well, then they will start bombing without the sanction of the UN Security Council, until the real Russian troops entered Ukraine and that’s all ... the end of the holiday.
        1. 0
          13 December 2019 15: 06
          Will the US start bombing something in Ukraine? - Kiev after the anti-Nazi coup? - Yes, for no reason. This will be a rejection of the whole idea of ​​creating anti-Russia. Most likely, the bases will be set up in Galicia, the special forces will leave to hunt for the leaders of the coup, no more. Only here is the scenario of such a performance of the junta of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - fantastic. Rather, the Donbass will begin to gather New Ukraine step by step, where it will begin to squabble everyone against everyone, but this is also not expected in the near future - the brain of the bulk of the population of Ukraine has not woken up, there are no partisans among the hats.
    17. +2
      13 December 2019 09: 46
      In Ukraine, there was never any order when they were not under someone, as soon as they took independence as much as they wanted, anarchy (Makhnovism) immediately formed. As one politician said. people who destroyed the old power and betrayed into the hands of the new should be destroyed. These people cannot work on creation; they are only imprisoned for destruction. If they are going to integrate, first complete and total disarmament. And the creation of the army on new orders and principles. Otherwise, there is no faith, whoever says anything.
    18. +1
      13 December 2019 10: 00
      And what is the difference between the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Pravosekov? Vaughn yesterday, for the murder of Sheremet - in the accused - two "for the sake of feces" and "military" SSO AFU! You can't tell who is where, this "special forces" from tattoos is all blue:
    19. +2
      13 December 2019 10: 03
      Real officer. Man.
    20. +1
      13 December 2019 10: 16
      Colonel is right! Chechnya 1996year Kadyrov is fighting against the Russian Federation on the side of the radicals, 2000year Kadyrov is fighting on the side of the Russian Federation against the radicals. The trouble of Ukraine is that they let the nationalists rise and flirt with them. They wouldn’t spread rot of other nationalities, didn’t Russophobia, would live like under Yanukovych. hi
    21. Fox
      0
      13 December 2019 10: 20
      Just obroz-nets unprincipled.
      Such teeth will not fall out due to lack of vitamins.
    22. 0
      13 December 2019 11: 26
      This is by far the most original way to go into stock.
    23. 0
      13 December 2019 11: 40
      It is unlikely that this colonel himself decided on this statement; rather, it will become clear who wise him up, only the time will come to cry at his funeral.
    24. 0
      13 December 2019 11: 40
      Normal man
      1. 0
        13 December 2019 11: 58
        He is not a man, but an ochwitzer. Ohvitser does not define policy, but executes commands. If an ochvitzer begins to form a policy, then he will be "scattered". The team is waging an "information war" against the "occupier".
        1. -1
          13 December 2019 12: 25
          Yes, he didn’t seem to groan
    25. 0
      13 December 2019 11: 54
      Ha! And sho it was the last 30 years?
    26. 0
      13 December 2019 12: 42
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Well, not everything in the APU - the Nazis
      Not all, but after the Donbass "to integrate" with ukrovoinami? The Martians must attack us, no less! Because with the Americans and Europoland, ukrovoinstvo will be at the same time, with a very high probability.

      ... and, nevertheless, we will not repel them. We will provide the opportunity to be the first to take as many steps towards us as there will be enough. I'm right?
    27. -1
      13 December 2019 12: 48
      Quote: Liss
      Just obroz-nets unprincipled.
      Such teeth will not fall out due to lack of vitamins.

      Maybe, as a matter of principle? And risking paying? It’s not so bad, and it’s completely safe to be principled in a country in which a pravosek or frankly fascist doesn’t break into your house and tear you and your relatives into teaching your neighbors? Do not you find that you have taken the position of a bastard?
    28. -1
      13 December 2019 12: 53
      An incomprehensible crackling came from everywhere, then they torn the dupes to the Svidomites. laughing
    29. 0
      13 December 2019 13: 10
      Again a 404 thrash.
      What reintegration are you fighting with us?
      Or not already?
      Or did he hint that he did not mind capitulating?
    30. 0
      13 December 2019 13: 36
      Are you clear ?! You, "not smart people", opened the "Pandora's Box" yourself, and now you say that you cannot be trusted with your so-called "national militia". What does this mean? Because of your laziness, greed and stupidity, you degrade at a speed close to the speed of light. Now the most interesting thing will begin in your country, all these "funny, stoned" will need to be completely cleaned out.
    31. -1
      13 December 2019 14: 40
      And the Wehrmacht was not all Nazis. But only Colonel von Staufenberg can forgive and understand from them. Posthumously.
      And the rest, who were suddenly "deceived" in May 45 - no!
    32. 0
      13 December 2019 15: 56
      Oh! Does the Bandera site allow a Russian person to say an opinion? And how is the sales journalist MARZHETSKY working for the Ukrainian Gestapo?
    33. 0
      13 December 2019 16: 26
      So I say join New Russia ...
    34. +1
      13 December 2019 17: 31
      And you can find a common language for military Russians and military Ukrainians, even if they were enemies.

      Everything goes to this .. There is only one problem. this is the Bandera zapadnentsy, these need to be cleaned, and then I think there will be no problems in the negotiations ..
      How to clean? Not necessarily a weapon, the main financing is to block them from such bloody bugs .. negative

      I hope everyone knows whose idea everyone is ... And in Russia they wanted to hang such people in the 90s .. only about the communists ..
    35. +1
      13 December 2019 21: 19
      Quote: TermNachTER
      As the Bible says: "Do not judge, lest you be judged."

      You do not understand this commandment correctly.
      TO JUDGE is to issue a SENTENCE. And carry it out. The sentence is passed by the Heavenly Judge. And we, on Earth, ONLY in order to learn to distinguish Good from Evil. They don’t build a house, give birth to a son and plant a tree. These are all only instruments of cognition of the Good. To see in the act of Good- only then we can when we learn to distinguish. Or evil. And decide where you belong, there or here. So, to have an opinion, a bastard or a righteous person in front of you is your task. If you haven’t learned, then you have lived a life here in vain.
      There was no Evil in Paradise. That is why Man did not know what Good is. Here on Earth there is everything, and in abundance.
    36. +1
      13 December 2019 21: 55
      Are our armed forces ready to reintegrate with this awkward armed formation and return Ukrainian warrant officers to their warehouses?
    37. 0
      14 December 2019 00: 33
      our person...
    38. -1
      14 December 2019 05: 22
      Apparently, in Ukraine, everyone got this mess.
      1. +3
        14 December 2019 19: 09
        Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
        Apparently, in Ukraine, everyone got this mess.

        it is on what grounds "apparently ???" what wassat wassat for almost absolute hataskranichism ??? negative negative negative
    39. +1
      14 December 2019 13: 43
      Apparently, for the LDNR, an option is being considered similar to the Republika Srpska as part of Bosnia and Herzegovina (they fought there so that the chandeliers are still wobbling, but look, at the very least, they got used to it, even the armed formations were integrated into the federal army; not without problems but the circuit works). Hence such conversations. Of course, the irreconcilable Westerners are not satisfied with this, they hoped for another analogue - the Serbian Krajina in Croatia. But it didn't work out. Suddenly it turned out that the Russian Federation model 2014 is, in terms of opportunities, not "Little Yugoslavia" at all.
    40. 0
      14 December 2019 20: 10
      Quote: Stas157
      . Colonel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: Ready to reintegrate with Russian militarybut not with the right-wing radicals of Ukraine

      In the case of a campaign in the South-East of Ukraine in 2014, during anarchy, these statements would sound especially loud. Would be greeted as liberators!

      So there are some who then built the militia and met remember the Dnieper paratroopers?
    41. 0
      14 December 2019 20: 14
      Quote: pishchak
      Yes, and now, in general, too! smile
      After all, the alien Galitsai banderva, their "Svidomo" marginal "lohtorat" and "Ukrainian" klepto "w / Bandera" nedofuehrer "are occupiers on the territory of the ex-Ukrainian SSR ... they look like occupiers, they speak like occupiers and behave like occupiers, real enemies the majority of the Ukrainian population!

      But, alas, many good Russian people in our Southeast, who in 2014 would have survived, now they are no longer in this world, and those are far ...

      There is such a thing. They have been poor for almost three decades, trying to set themselves the president of a Westerner, or even a Jew from Vinnitsa. The latter has already succeeded twice.
    42. 0
      14 December 2019 20: 18
      Quote: Den717
      Quote: AllBiBek
      "A German settlement under Peter the Great? Germans on the throne of Russia? Biron and Bironovism? No, you haven't heard!"

      So you can write Africa through Pushkin in family ties ... The scale of mixing cultures is not the same. The presence of isolated figures of German nationality did not determine the mental relationship between Russians and Germans. Ukraine is a completely different matter.

      Ukraine is another matter, only that they are runaway Slavs on the lands almost conquered by the enemy. Looks like all the same, they well spud them.
    43. 0
      14 December 2019 20: 21
      Quote: Lead
      This we were not an ally of the GDR when we betrayed all the countries of the Warsaw bloc, and not the Germans.

      Og, allies for money (if not bro) it was very cool! Also with Hungarians and Czechs.
    44. 0
      28 December 2019 13: 37
      Bandera, their "Svidomo" marginal "lohtorat" and "Ukrainian" klepto "w / Bandera" nedofuehrer "are the occupiers on the territory of the ex-Ukrainian SSR ... they look like occupiers and behave like occupants, the real enemies of the majority of the Ukrainian population!
      ... For five years, these "p ... si" themselves could not show themselves differently. They shout about Ukrainians, but they forget that there are citizens of UKRAINE of other nationalities, about the Ukrainian people - I, in turn, identify myself with the people of UKRAINE. With all this - "p ... sy" can not understand that a bad peace with a neighbor is better - a stupefied friendship with an overseas huckster. Although, in all honesty, a provocation with a dam on Tuzla, then Crimea - this is such a shame from the outside ..

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