Dozens of M16 rifles stolen from Israeli military base during sandstorm

Israeli television reported on the incident at one of the IDF military bases.

The report says that the theft investigation has been launched weaponslocated at the Israeli military base. According to some reports, we are talking about more than 30 automatic rifles M16.

Israeli reporters report that the theft of dozens of small arms occurred at the Tseelim base in the Negev desert. It is alleged that the attackers acted during the disaster. A sandstorm is reported, visibility during which barely exceeded a couple of meters. During a sandstorm, unidentified persons were allegedly abducted.

However, it does not say how many intruders could be and where during the sandstorm they could hide or take out M16 automatic rifles. According to some reports, rifles could be hidden on the territory of the base for the purpose of subsequent export.

At the moment, Israeli TV reports say that the formed investigative group is trying to establish whether the military personnel of the Tseelim base were at their post, who were supposed to guard the weapons warehouse. Additionally, it is checked whether the ammunition for these rifles was stolen.

Comments

[tlauicol]

Blown away by the wind

[lwxx]

Natural shrinkage.

[Thrall]

Ensign Shmatko still emigrated to Israel

[Shurik70]

I read that according to the commandments of the Torah, it is forbidden to steal, and if stolen, it must be returned in multiple sizes (it is stipulated that the cases are different, and the multiplicity is also different)
With one single exception. If stolen from a thief, then you only need to reimburse in a single amount, if caught.

[Thrall]

But is there a point in the Torah - he stole sooo much? Generally without punishment

[AU Ivanov.]

The Jews have 613 commandments. One of them reads:
"Check your measuring devices"
Not a joke.

[eagle owl]

Not where the Ukrainian passed ... So these are local

[RUSS]

Quote: Thrall

Ensign Shmatko still emigrated to Israel

The military stole from "Admiral Kuznetsov" radio parts for one and a half million

Two servicemen received large sentences for embezzlement of radio components from the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier. They stole 393 radioelements worth more than 1,4 million rubles.

Last spring, foreman Arslan Akhmaisov and sailor Philip Filin entered the ship’s pantry, took out radio components from there and hid them in another aircraft carrier building. Then the military organized an underground workshop at Kuznetsovo, where they extracted elements with precious metals from the radio parts with wire cutters. "Enriched" products men sold in Murmansk for 1,2 million rubles

[Finches]

- Izzy, how many will be a family of eight?
- Do we sell or buy?

[Alien From]

The sons of Israel invited the non-brothers to visit .......)))

[Vladimir_2U]

Oh yes. Attackers were just waiting for the weather. Type as in the burnt BMPhe ukrovoinskoy half-storehouse climbed under the cancellation.

[Pessimist22]

Are Jews patriots sold to Arabs?

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Pessimist22

Are Jews patriots sold to Arabs?

But haven’t they recently taken into the composition of this unit immigrants from the independent?

[DEDPIHTO]

Are Jews patriots sold to Arabs?

Um ... patriots .. The centuries-old cosmopolitanism over 71 years is unlikely to have undergone major changes in the masses. And the desire for gesheft ..

[voyaka uh]

There is nothing much to be guessed at.
Bedouin rifles whistled. Like the remaining 90% of theft of weapons in the IDF.
They serve, they have relatives who do not serve. Some have brought
others stole. M-16s are sold expensive on the black market.
Either into the Palestinian Authority, or they’ll throw off Egypt through a fence.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: voyaka uh

There is nothing much to be guessed at.
Bedouin rifles whistled. Like the remaining 90% of theft of weapons in the IDF.
They serve, they have relatives who do not serve. Some have brought
others stole. M-16s are sold expensive on the black market.
Either into the Palestinian Authority, or they’ll throw off Egypt through a fence.

Poor however the guard service is delivered

[voyaka uh]

It's right. Our base guard service is not up to par.

[igor67]

. In a video of a soldier, a Bedouin on a black Toyota shoots from an M16, at the driver, the report also says that if the Bedouins should not be given weapons at home, at weddings, such a salute is not a mum’s mum’s, this is from personal experience

[igor67]

or here’s a Bedouin’s wedding near Be'er Sheva,

[igor67]

and this is a wedding in a Bedouin kfar Tuba Zangaria in the north of the country, I worked with these Bedouins for three years, since I was in this kfar, a dangerous place, even an ambulance calls in under the guard of gendarmerie jeeps

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Pessimist22

Are Jews patriots sold to Arabs?

Great Dreams Come True
“The most important task of the dictatorship Lenin saw in the democratization of governance: "every cook must learn to control the state" "
"When we have a Jewish thief, a Jewish prostitute and a Jewish murderer, we will definitely know that we have our own state." These are the famous words of the first prime minister of Israel David Ben-Gurion.

[parusnik]

After the defeat of the Great Armada, the Spanish admirals, too, attributed the defeat to bad weather ...

[Jack O'Neill]

Israeli reporters report that the theft of dozens of small arms occurred at the Tseelim base in the Negev desert. It is alleged that the attackers acted during the disaster. A sandstorm is reported, visibility during which barely exceeded a couple of meters. During a sandstorm, unidentified persons were allegedly abducted

It began ... People with superpowers steal rifles to equip their minions!
A great war is coming, where ordinary people will fight for a place under the sun against superhumans! This is just the beginning!
Although everything can be much simpler, maybe someone just ate expired sausage and ... and here’s a storm ...

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

Although everything can be much simpler, maybe someone just ate expired sausage and ... and here’s a storm ...

Expired! )))

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

People with superpowers steal rifles to equip their minions!

[rotmistr60]

It is possible that they stole a long time ago, and when they grabbed it they decided to soften what happened a little by a sandstorm. They steal in all the armies of the world, just somewhere quietly and in small quantities, and somewhere on a grand scale and everything (example Ukraine).

[Reserve buildbat]

ABOUT! "New director's interpretation" of "Gone with the Wind"! We follow the development of the plot!
In general, the situation is unpleasant, but nothing more. World hype is not justified here

[Yves762]

As there: "Only robbery will save us from revision.
...
Everything is already stolen before us.
...
Well, of course, "burglary."
Operation "Y", adjusted for the local climate: sandstorm instead of night and blizzard ...

Ps Sorry if I almost quoted the classics a bit ...

[Nikolaevich I]

Every Jew has the right to his little gesheft!

[Gray brother]

)))
"The military tribunal of the southern district has found the IDF military ensign guilty of large-scale theft of weapons and ammunition from warehouses and army storage facilities. The final verdict against the suspect will be made before the end of this year.

The theft suspect was charged with at least 20 criminal episodes related to the theft of weapons.

According to ITV Second Channel, all weapons stolen by the ensign were resold to criminal groups in Israel. Thus, the mafiosi managed to take possession of grenades, dynamite, bullets, cartridges, etc.

It is noted that on the day of the suspect's arrest, 10 anti-tank missiles "Lau" were found in his car, which were confiscated by military investigators.

According to media reports, at the beginning of this year, a colleague of the suspect, who was an accomplice in the commission of the crimes, received 9 years in prison, and was also demoted to the rank and file by the decision of the military tribunal. "
From here:
https://nashe.orbita.co.il/post/view?id=63338
Down there, links from the heart are simple.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Gray Brother

mafiosi managed to take possession of grenades, dynamite, bullets, cartridges etc.

They have there separate loading, whether?

Nothing personal, just amused.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Nothing personal, just amused.

Charging from the barrel)))
They are journalists - it’s time to get used to it.

[askort154]

Now wake up ..... go to the site. They say - where is the photo of the stolen? No photo ! So this is a fake article.

[Zaurbek]

Who did this?

[Prisoner]

Weird question. Kremlin.

[knn54]

Zaur, a sandstorm came from SYRIA.
And the base is located, if not mistaken, in the Negev desert. There are not far from nuclear warheads.

[MoJloT]

Who did this?

Iran, Hezbollah, Proxies, Palestinians, Arabs, Bedouins ... led by Ahashvereh.

[Ham]

if even the Arabs whistled - generally laughter and shame

[avib]

I looked at the most popular news sites in Hebrew and found nothing about this incident.
Yesterday, at a base in the south, a tent overturned a tent on two soldiers and they were hospitalized with injuries - this is a fact. Element.

[Tank jacket]

ISIS got hold of rifles M-16-the essence of the article ...

[MOLODCHIK1]

on Ceilim such ushatannye rifles that will bring many more problems to users. I wouldn’t take a rifle from there for serious matters ...

[Bukhalov]

M-16 is not money to be stolen and spent. These are items with individual characteristics, in particular numbers. In addition, I believe there is a computerized bullet case. Cartridges from individual weapons must be fired. And when the stolen weapon "speaks", it is possible to identify by the sleeve from which particular weapon was fired. It's like fingerprints. The basics of forensic science. There is also an independent reconnaissance patrol, in which the Israelis are traditionally strong. After all, any theft, be it a weapon, or other valuables involves transportation, storage, sale, use. Throughout this chain, the number of defendants increases, that is, the likelihood of obtaining information about thieves increases. And in the presence of good operational positions - disclosure - the issue is not so difficult. Yes, burglaries are really hard to solve. But this is in Russia, with its vast expanses, where thieves, as a rule, are guest performers. But when a thief is detained, all episodes of theft are revealed at once. According to thieves' ethics, everything can be recognized, except for two points: under no circumstances can the "huckster" and accomplices be handed over. They will ask for this in the zone. Although they learned to deal with this, and it is elementary. Of course, it happens that the opera is hung, but this is an inevitable evil. In Israel, little attention is paid to thefts in the civilian sector, because nobody keeps money at home, everything is on the card and is insured. They steal mainly from repatriates. Moreover, quite often. There is practically no street crime in the country. And in this case, everything will be revealed. And I guess fast enough. The product is specific, so are the recipients. And of course, the gaps in the security mode will now be revealed. Nothing new. The Jews in this part are similar to the Slavs: until the thunder breaks out, the peasant will not cross himself. I suppose a lot of orders have been violated about the security regime. In particular, the question will arise about signaling, security personnel, accounting during storage. They will check not one version of "the Bedouins", but all possible ones.

[Okolotochny]

According to the ethics of thieves, everything can be recognized, except for two points: under no circumstances should you surrender the "huckster" and accomplices. They will ask for this in the zone.

Do not watch any more such films. This is already in the past.

[Bukhalov]

Quote: Okolotochny

According to the ethics of thieves, everything can be recognized, except for two points: under no circumstances should you surrender the "huckster" and accomplices. They will ask for this in the zone.

Do not watch any more such films. This is already in the past.

There have never been problems with accomplices and their surrender. If you are a practitioner, then you understand what I mean. But with hucksters, at any time (before the start of the XNUMXs) it was always difficult.

[Mikhail3]

And to whom can they be sold? But only to the Arabs ...
As for the bulletproof library. Sorry, but this does not work, and quite a while. An individual mark was left by an old weapon that had individual defects. Modern weapons simply do not have them, so it’s unrealistic to attach a bullet to a new barrel.

[Bukhalov]

I am currently not a special subject of criminal-pro-institutional relations. That is, it is not authorized to disclose a crime committed on this basis. I expressed my point of view based on realities. The bulletproof magazine does not work, you say? Maybe hotne sure. Always worked. So there is something else. It cannot be that a particular weapon cannot be identified. You a priori, without putting forward other versions, take one as a basis. Arabs ... This is what a man is,
: "Arabs"? First, there are a lot of groups among Islamist Arabs. That is, the "Arab" version should have a lot of subversions. Secondly. And if it is some kind of sect, the next saviors of mankind, such as "Aun Senrike", or the order of arms dealers, drug addicts, etc. ? Third, it may be a false version altogether. All versions must be checked. This is the law of investigation. Which operates around the clock. True, it does not apply to you.

[Bukhalov]

Quote: Mikhail3

An individual mark was left by an old weapon that had individual defects. Modern weapons simply do not have them, so it’s unrealistic to attach a bullet to a new barrel.

What are such defects? Pulegilzoteka worked on a completely different principle. The firing pin of one or another weapon left an individual mark on the sleeve. But you know better. Apparently the M-16 has no striker and cartridges, as such. Sorry, behind the times.

[Mikhail3]

Million AR 15 for example. And do they have a million individual, identifiable strikers? Hehe ...

[Bukhalov]

You have never heard of the Dermalog system, as I understand it. One (1!) Fingerprint is found and entered into a computer file, where the formulas of all fingerprints of citizens of, say, the United States, or another country where biometric passports are available, are stored. Three seconds later, a result is received from the on-board computer, which allows identifying a specific person by a single fingerprint. There is a laser-print system that allows you not to smear a brush dipped in tooth powder on the table in search of a print, but to immediately remove from the entire object and send it to the computer base. Now about your delights with versions. Arabs, even if they are already sales. First you need to build a version: who stole? Remember how in the Caucasian captive: "Who stole? Oh, yes. Who is the groom?" Besides, my dear, the Arabs have nowhere to get weapons, buy, steal, take? Yes, in the same Syria, Lebanon, Gaza - heaps of this stuff. And without any risk. Although this version should be checked too. The weapon is intended for customers - those who cannot get it, unlike the Arabs. Druze, for example, or Bedouin poaching. Or illegal immigrants who are going to organize attacks in order to take possession of other people's property. It doesn't matter. But you need to check everything, including the professional level of the discussion.

[Mikhail3]

I heard about such systems. They are nothing interesting. Do you know why? Because the material for their work is made by mankind in the old, tested, INDIVIDUAL way.) Therefore, the prints received for identification are all different. People made these fingers in pairs, each pair sculpted its 20 fingerprints, understand?
And ammunition and strikers are made en masse. On equipment more and more adapted to do exactly the SAME products. So far has progressed that individual differences have now passed almost to the atomic level. And it is already impossible to recognize these minimicro risks and dots with due accuracy. In fact, this is no longer an examination, but simply an arbitrary appointment of the guilty by experts, no matter how sad it sounds.
If the weapon has a significant shot, then individual characteristics may appear. And most often they appear, mainly due to the unique composition of the got dirt, several jamming, etc. The new weapon has nothing like that yet.

[Okolotochny]

Punches, rifling, etc. There is nothing identical. You are right, each weapon has its own characteristic trail. It all depends on the qualifications of the expert and the equipment supplied.

[Okolotochny]

Modern weapons simply do not have them, so it’s unrealistic to attach a bullet to a new barrel.

Have you ever encountered a live ballistic examination in your life? Here, first "plunge" into the topic, and then approve a similar one. Each weapons have their mark. It all depends on the expert and the equipment for his identification. There is an Axiom - NO absolutely identical in the modern world.

[Mikhail3]

Quote: Okolotochny

It all depends on the expert and the equipment for his identification.

I completely agree. It all depends on the expert. If the weapon is new, non-fired, then everything depends on the expert. How many experts will be, so many examinations. Well, since we have no competition in this matter, and the variety of equipment, too ...

[Okolotochny]

Well, since we have no competition in this matter, and the variety of equipment, too ...

Are you sure about that? Do you vouch for your words? Or so to the fan?

[Mikhail3]

Are you answering ?!
As recognizable) Put next to the cop and the bandit in the same clothes - because it will not be distinguished! Hehe ... Well, indicate for yourself somewhere the ranks of private weapons laboratories and independent experts in this field, living freely and working in Russia. Tell us how much money they bought the equipment at the cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars and maintain in working condition.
Ah, I know! Russian courts massively involve them in examinations. and happy clients (including those same courts) generously pay for those examinations! Human rights activists shouted cheers and threw the Constitution into the air ...
Is it not possible without the "mouth of the mouth of the mouth"?

[Bukhalov]

Quote: Okolotochny

Modern weapons simply do not have them, so it’s unrealistic to attach a bullet to a new barrel.

Have you ever encountered a live ballistic examination in your life? Here, first "plunge" into the topic, and then approve a similar one. Each weapons have their mark. It all depends on the expert and the equipment for his identification. There is an Axiom - NO absolutely identical in the modern world.

You should not convince a person who is "not in the subject." He wanted to chirp in the morning.

[Mikhail3]

And really, not worth it. Just tell me at least a dozen independent laboratories where you can conduct a completely independent examination of the riflemen at the highest level, so that our court recognizes them, I will shut up. I will be grateful, what if I need it suddenly?

[Kaw]

gone With the Wind

[Kelwin]

And then what, after each storm, a warehouse audit is carried out?) And they dragged so little, only 30 units, if you get into the storm, then immediately drive the truck in))

[Fedorovich]

The genies dragged away ...

[LeonidL]

I wonder if the warrant officers are serving in the Israel Defense Forces?