A fire occurred on the aircraft carrier cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov

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A fire occurred on the aircraft carrier cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov

A fire broke out at a major overhaul and modernization of the aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov. The cruiser is in the repair dock in Murmansk. This is reported by operational services.

According to available information, a fire broke out in the first energy compartment in 10: 16 (Moscow time). The fire area increased from 20 to 120 square meters. Employees of the Ministry of Emergencies work on the spot, extinguishing using a foam attack. Three victims are reported, they receive medical care.



According to preliminary information, a fire occurs in the first energy compartment, thick black smoke is coming from the upper deck (...) Three of the injured. All of them receive medical care.

- said in a statement.

There is thick black smoke above the deck, and diesel fuel has been reported. Extinguishing is done according to the second level of difficulty.

Eight people were rescued by forces of operational services and firefighters, they were taken out of the smoky rooms. The fate of one person is still unknown. Three more were injured

- leads TASS source words.

The causes of the fire are not reliably known; it is assumed that the fire could have occurred due to safety violations during welding. A special commission will be created on this fact, which will establish all the reasons for what happened.

Earlier, the head of the USC Alexei Rakhmanov said that the cruiser will need additional repairs. This became clear after the ship was defective.
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    1. +22
      December 12 2019
      Well, what a good thing !!!
      1. -9
        December 12 2019
        Well, what a good thing !!!
        It's Russia )
        1. +28
          December 12 2019
          What is the commission in FIG? Dock drowned. And who was responsible for this?
          1. -5
            December 12 2019
            What is the commission in FIG? Dock drowned. And who was responsible for this?
            And here in FIG dock? Do you answer to whom in general?
            1. +6
              December 12 2019
              Probably writes on a training manual.
              1. +15
                December 12 2019
                News one after another in a row. On Kuznetsovo the fire, in Nakhodka, the boat sank, and a helicopter crashed near Korenovsky ... It is ominously like that.
                1. -34
                  December 12 2019
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Sinister as that

                  Well, why ... it's time for another scream about "everything is gone." No? wink
                  1. +14
                    December 12 2019
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Well, why ... it's time for another scream about "everything is gone". No?

                    Obviously, this is exactly what you are waiting for, Sharikov.
                    1. -20
                      December 12 2019
                      Quote: Stas157
                      Obviously, this is exactly what you are waiting for, Sharikov

                      No. I just know you well (and all your, um, company).

                      With the terminology more careful, by the way. I do not love you, and you know it ... more accurately Yes
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                    2. -34
                      December 12 2019
                      You're not right. Sharikov, like Schwonder, is a typical product of the Soviet system - Homo Sovetikus. What can not be said about SW. Golovane Jack.
                      1. -30
                        December 12 2019
                        Quote: AS Ivanov.
                        You are not right

                        Andrey, spit. Saliva.

                        Stasik runs up. And run into, inevitably.

                        Stasik more, stasik less ... I’m exactly request laughing
                        1. -1
                          December 12 2019
                          Quote: Golovan Jack
                          Stasik more, stasik less ...

                          ======
                          Bah! Yes, you have no way to demote yourself to "lieutenants" ....
                          Well, the "flag -" in the hands ", the drum -" on the chest ".... Well, and" tailwind "- in ....." aft "!!!!
                        2. -1
                          December 12 2019
                          Quote: venik
                          Yes, you are in no way demoted to "lieutenants" ....

                          Broom, you write, albeit politely ... well, try, like ... but extremely illiterate negative

                          That's true - it hurts your eyes. Learn Russian before it's too late. It's never too late laughing

                          Quote: venik
                          "outlined"

                          Outlined. So it will be more accurate Yes

                          We’ll deal with stasik, we’ve known for several days. Why are you here? That's true - I do not understand request
                      2. +2
                        December 12 2019
                        Schwonder is a man who cares about the people but you don’t understand this bourgeois servant
                        1. -15
                          December 12 2019
                          Did Schwonder care for the people in singing rrrevolutionary songs, supporting marginalized personalities and attempting to infringe on a respected professor? Typically Soviet approach.
                  2. +26
                    December 12 2019
                    Well, not everything, but "Kuzya" most likely just disappeared. An aircraft carrier without an air wing, or rather with an air wing, which is only suitable for dispersing bearded men with a Soviet anti-aircraft missile system at the top of the air defense, without a dock, and so it was questionable about its expediency. So now a fire has been added to this.
                    1. -16
                      December 12 2019
                      Quote: Vol4ara
                      Well, not everything, but "Kuzya" most likely just disappeared

                      Well, why rush so? We will wait for the results ... they will bring to you - publicity, so that it does not exist ...
                    2. 0
                      December 12 2019
                      I agree. Kuzya unlucky ship. It may be easier to cut. In the process, when it is repaired, it will be time for modernization. And there again, the dock, fire, repair)) No, well, really .. For now, let’s do with what we have ...
                      1. +16
                        December 12 2019
                        Quote: shark
                        Kuzya unlucky ship. It may be easier to cut.

                        This is called, in able hands and a balalaika bolt, and in inept hands and a balalaika bolt.
                      2. +1
                        December 12 2019
                        If we WANT and WILL (two strong points) build an aircraft carrier, then Kuzyu cannot be cut under any condition. But there’s no reason to chase him away for distant lands, and to minimize equipment on it (take-off landing). you’ll earn and don’t teach. Costs are immeasurable. And so, recently, all the information associated with it is loss (either one plane or another, then a fire or breakdown). Sometimes it seems that he is fighting at the front. without stopping
                        1. +6
                          December 12 2019
                          Quote: zadorin1974
                          , then Kuzyu can not be cut under any condition

                          If you saw it, then what for in Russia 2 threads?
                          It’s clear that Sakskaya fell from the sky, but in Yeisk?
                      3. +2
                        December 12 2019
                        The dough cycle in nature! Such things ....... effective methods .....
                      4. +3
                        December 12 2019
                        Quote: shark
                        I agree. Kuzya unlucky ship. It may be easier to cut. In the process, when it is repaired, it will be time for modernization. And there again, the dock, fire, repair)) No, well, really .. For now, let’s do with what we have ...

                        Amazing "logic"!
                        Based on it, you can create a commission to determine "lucky / unlucky". Breakdown / accident - for scrap, and no problem))
                        .... and there is no Fleet ... More precisely, its remnants, because almost everything was built during the Union
                        1. +1
                          December 12 2019
                          Why a commission. Well, after all, it is quite clear that we probably don't really have the coastal infrastructure for keeping Kuzi in proper condition. Perhaps the project is unsuccessful, perhaps the technological capabilities of Russia do not meet the needs of Kuznetsov. But it is obvious that something is wrong with Kuzya. Here they write, they say, in no case, how will we teach pilots! But excuse me, in the first place, why and most importantly on what ship to teach them? How much to teach them? Under what catapult should they be taught? Which deck? Secondly, I agree that carrier-based aviation is necessary, but if such a "booze" went with Kuzya, what prevents to teach flyers on two Threads? With the money that the country spends on maintaining the visibility of Kuznetsov's combat readiness, we can train hundreds of good pilots who are familiar with the basics of piloting carrier-based aircraft. Experience is all the same on one Kuza not all accumulate. New ships will appear - there will be honey agarics. Do not appear, and there is nothing to spend money on show-off. I think we need to focus on preparing Russia for the emergence of new aircraft carriers. Create dry docks, bases, train crews, flight personnel. Kuznetsov is a good ship, but his century has passed.
                        2. 0
                          December 12 2019
                          Why did it pass?) This ship is capable of bringing many benefits to the country's defense. By the way, "Threads" are not able to fully reproduce the deck of the ship, only the dimensions).
                          Well, about money ... Enough of "optimizing"! What happens to this ship is the result of these "optimizations"
                  3. +27
                    December 12 2019
                    There is a name for these goodies! Sloppiness and lack of control!
                    1. +5
                      December 12 2019
                      Yuri! Moreover, each of them has a specific title and surname !!!
                      1. +1
                        December 12 2019
                        "This leg, the one who needs the leg ..."
                    2. +2
                      December 12 2019
                      Quote: 30 vis
                      There is a name for these goodies! Sloppiness and lack of control!

                      good ..... and the irresponsibility generated by impunity.
                      "switchmen" don't count ..
                  4. 0
                    December 12 2019
                    What are you, a reason for pride, that something that can drown, fall or burn out has not been extinct. Until it is gone
                2. +3
                  December 12 2019
                  Quote: Stas157
                  News one after another in a row. On Kuznetsovo the fire, in Nakhodka, the boat sank, and a helicopter crashed near Korenovsky ... It is ominously like that.

                  C - Stability
                  1. +1
                    December 12 2019
                    Quote: Vol4ara
                    C - Stability

                    Still stability or a breakthrough?
                    1. +3
                      December 12 2019
                      Quote: kjhg
                      Quote: Vol4ara
                      C - Stability

                      Still stability or a breakthrough?

                      At first the sewerage broke .. everything spread out .. and stability began .. so nothing was tidied up .. but a new breakthrough is planned, with subsequent stability .. hi
                      1. -6
                        December 12 2019
                        Quote: Svarog
                        At first the sewerage broke .. everything spread out .. and stability began ..

                        In with Lehus, not by chance in the family? Coprophilia - it’s such a thing, transmitted by airborne droplets ... laughing
                3. -27
                  December 12 2019
                  It is possible that these are tricks of the liberals. I hope the President will deal with them.
                  1. +14
                    December 12 2019
                    Yes, what the hell liberals, the State Department 100% !!!
                    1. +12
                      December 12 2019
                      Quote: Artur Loginov
                      Yes, what the hell liberals, the State Department 100% !!!

                      Jokers, your mother! am
                      There is no chela, but carbon monoxide will not wait ... Count ... -1 ..
                      The ship in the dock is handed over to the plant for repair work ... Again, the valiant ship repairmen threw the pig fleet ...
                      Now about the consequences. I don’t know about the units, but the cable lines will need to be changed - don’t go to the grandmother! And this is an extremely boring and ungrateful labor-intensive work. It’s good if the pieces are small, but if they are long ... You wash from compartment to compartment ...
                      Therefore - "banquet" at the expense of the hero of the occasion ... And the SRZ lives on budget handouts. Rarely does a merchant or a coaster get into the dock: the SF in a dense queue shoves his boats into it ... You can't push through ...
                      And so it turns out: naked "zrada"! Damage to the Navy (moral and material too), disruption of the ship docking schedule, and this affects the BS very much ... Poor Commander in Chief!
                      1. +3
                        December 12 2019
                        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                        Damage to the Navy (moral and material, too), disruption of the ship docking schedule, and this affects the BS very much ... Poor Commander-in-Chief!

                        All of you correctly painted the friendship ... here you have a mess and a lack of professionals, and the consequences of all this, and the subsequent expediency of repairing as such, based on damage to the ship itself. And all this directly affects the country's defense capability and the implementation of the state order for the modernization and construction of ships in general.
                        At the same time, each branch on VO under similar articles turns into asking who writes according to the methodology manual, who no longer endures power, who himself as a radish person, etc. boys 13 years old, and in the defense industry.
                        1. +2
                          December 12 2019
                          Quote: NEXUS
                          All of you correctly painted a friend.

                          Andrew, hi
                          This is clear without any remarks ... But when will this mess be over !? The New Year is just around the corner, and we can't get over the old one! Swine all around, "you understand" ... am
                        2. -1
                          December 12 2019
                          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                          Andrew,
                          This is clear without any remarks ... But when will this mess be over !? The New Year is just around the corner, and we can't get over the old one! Swine all around, "you understand" ...

                          I wrote many times that the fleet is funded by RESIDUAL PRINCIPLE and you know that. The ground component, Strategic Missile Forces, VKS and so on are regularly provided with novim, but with the fleet some kind of, sorry, buttock disease has been around for many years. But in fairness, one must understand that the fleet is a very expensive pleasure for any country.
                          Now, with regards to the topic, the fire and Kuzi ... this ship, even standing in the repair dock, is not sickly eating state money. And I don’t take the cost of repair work, equipment and occupied space, which could be useful for other ships that are more repairable.
                          What am I doing ... maybe it’s time to tell myself that it’s good to do garbage, and start leaning on the construction of new frigates, corvettes and destroyers? After all, Kuzya, by God, it’s a pity and it’s uncomfortable to throw out a suitcase without a pen.
                        3. +1
                          December 12 2019
                          Quote: NEXUS
                          After all, Kuzya, by God, it’s a pity and it’s uncomfortable to throw out a suitcase without a pen.

                          However, you will have to bear it. Otherwise, we will lose carrier aircraft. They say - let them train on NITK ... But this is the same as having sex with "rubber Zina" ...
                          And you need to restore it as quickly as possible ... On the way, a new technique, young flyers. They need to be put on the wing.
                          So, sorry, friend ... but I can’t agree with you. request
                        4. +2
                          December 12 2019
                          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                          Otherwise, we lose aircraft carrier aircraft.

                          Forgive my friend, but we already lost it, as it’s not sad to admit to me. Well, we don’t have aircraft carrier. Those tears that are available, the language does not turn to be called an aircraft carrier group. Sorry for the bitter truth.
                          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                          And you need to restore it as quickly as possible ..

                          Did the story of Nakhimov teach you anything? Suppose they restore quickly ... but quickly, so not everyone will eliminate, which will lead to new breakdowns and downtime. It won’t be fast and it won’t be good. And not because our specialists are bad ... our specialists are wonderful and the school didn’t disappear, but ... our funding and attitude towards the fleet has not changed for many decades. And it’s mediocre to say the least .
                          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                          So, sorry, friend ... but I can’t agree with you.

                          Sasha, you can disagree with me, but as long as the attitude towards the fleet is the same as now, there can be no question of any revival of the combat power of the fleets of the Russian Federation. Look at what we are building, and what is decreasing in scrap metal and how much. Do you seriously think that this can be called a fleet upgrade?
                        5. +1
                          December 12 2019
                          And what technique is on the way? Are there any contracts for new deck aircraft?
                        6. 0
                          December 12 2019
                          Quote: serviceman.
                          And what technique is on the way? Are there any contracts for new deck aircraft?

                          New VTOL aircraft are being developed for UDC and aircraft carriers. The terms of reference for the construction of 2 UDCs with a displacement of 15000 tons were issued. It seems that the MiG-35K is going to do ...
                        7. -1
                          December 15 2019
                          ... it seems like they were again interested in the 1984 project - the plane - a submarine ... I read the other day ... At one time, * youth equipment * was written .... Not otherwise Kuzya * got it * ...
                      2. -1
                        December 12 2019
                        Read:
                        https://ria.ru/20191212/1562314986.html?in=t
                        And how five could not discern one, and is there any fault of the repairmen?
                  2. +1
                    December 12 2019
                    Quote: Super
                    It is possible that these are tricks of the liberals


                    What are you talking about? According to the regulations, when welding on a ship, a military inspector should be next to the welder.
                    As OSK reported, the spark hit the fuel oil
                    1. +3
                      December 12 2019
                      There should be a senior one to ensure the safety of welding and near each welder a sailor with a fire hose, fire extinguisher and a bucket of water.
                      1. +2
                        December 12 2019
                        and another safety briefing (on signature)
                        order / work order for welding work ....
                      2. -3
                        December 13 2019
                        Quote: Grigory B
                        next to each welder is a sailor with a fire hose, fire extinguisher and a bucket of water.

                        Is this a mockery? Somehow he was repairing a pill, so fellow officers only did what they thumped. Well, they brought us very little ..
                      3. 0
                        December 13 2019
                        near each welder a sailor with a fire hose

                        So the spark fell down, then the sailors with fire extinguishers need to be placed on the lower decks, or they should be completely removed and flushed with flammable substances, or carbon dioxide should be filled in the entire volume, or welding equipment should be used without spark, otherwise the inspector should be put in and he must catch sparks with his hands so that did not get into diesel fuel?
                    2. +1
                      December 12 2019
                      Sorry, but what kind of spark was it that could ignite fuel oil? belay
                4. +5
                  December 12 2019
                  Quote: Stas157
                  News one after another in a row. On Kuznetsovo the fire, in Nakhodka, the boat sank, and a helicopter crashed near Korenovsky ... It is ominously like that.

                  "She drowned" (quote)
                5. NBV
                  0
                  December 12 2019
                  Or maybe "God opposes the proud"?
                  Epistle of St. Ap Jacob 4: 6
                6. -1
                  December 14 2019
                  ..never like that and here again ..
              2. +1
                December 12 2019
                Very disappointing for the only aircraft carrier. Even writing is inconvenient.
            2. +3
              December 12 2019
              Quote: MoJloT
              And here in FIG dock?

              Despite the fact that the topic is one - a mess. Nobody cares, no one is responsible for anything.
            3. +4
              December 12 2019
              PD-50 despite the fact that the basis of both incidents is fierce irresponsibility.
          2. +19
            December 12 2019
            Yeah ... Kuze is not lucky - Duck is not lucky !!! And what are the deadlines for completing repairs now?
            It is painful to read such articles ...
            1. +16
              December 12 2019
              Quote: Hunter 2
              And what are the deadlines for completing repairs now?

              It all depends on the construction of the dry dock and the damage that the aircraft-carrying cruiser regularly receives during repairs. Maybe in the 20s will go to sea. We do not have ship repair, as there really is no fleet and, all the more, defense capability. A little more show-offs, even more aplomb, much more scrap metal and a very small number of ships keeping afloat from the last forces.
              1. +7
                December 12 2019
                Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
                A little more show-offs, even more aplomb, much more scrap metal and a very small number of ships keeping afloat from the last forces.

                Well, our desires and opportunities have always come into dissonance. We don’t want to buy a goat, but we can’t. Just elementary to see the decline of old warships and the arrival of new ones, and many simply do not want to compare quantitatively these indicators.
                For example ... Gorshkov came, and how many Sarychev remained in service? Poor Atlantes are being driven both in the tail and in the mane, but there will be no replacement for them in the next 10 years, or even more. And the Atlppntam for a minute under 40 already. Fleet degradation on the face. The power of the fleets, in comparison with the USSR, for example, decreased not even several times, but ten times, and this is a fact. As an example, the number of different submarines in the days of the Union and now. Yes, someone will say that there were 15 republics, money, and so on ... but I'm sorry, the Union provided weapons and allied countries, and without fail equipping them with the most advanced weapons. And now even we will not fully provide ourselves with such weapons condition.
                As for money, then I'm sorry, I will express an seditious thought for this site, but there is money ... only they go wrong.
                1. +1
                  December 13 2019
                  The power of the fleets in comparison with the USSR, for example, decreased not even many times, but ten times

                  Yes, now comes the realization of the industrial power of the union. But at the Yeltsin Center, readings were recently held where Russian professors read reports on the unprofitableness and backwardness of the Union's economy. Sounds like a mockery. But on TV they show cartoons about how the Russian Federation is strong, and the "king" turns out to be naked
              2. +1
                December 13 2019
                no fleet

                Well, the Navy, that is, as many as twenty megayachts, and heaps of smaller yachts.
            2. +1
              December 12 2019
              hi
              Of course, I understand the resentment about this. But I suggest not to get excited. Yes
              The existing reality is not ideal, therefore, such excesses are possible in it. As they say :
              "Everyone happens in war: whoever slaps - who does not ..." wink
            3. +15
              December 12 2019
              Responsible for repairs is very convenient. Now you don’t have to take the deadline referring to such emergency situations.
              The only trouble is that the real perpetrators will be as usual: they will sort it out properly and punish anyone horribly.
            4. +12
              December 12 2019
              Yeah ... Kuze is not lucky - Duck is not lucky!


              Or maybe it’s not luck, but numbered sabotage of the modernization of the TAVKR and deversions?

              Here I recently came across an article about how the United States threw Ukraine into disposing of the Ulyanovsk nuclear-powered aircraft carrier with the help of one-day firms, although there were not many prospects for Ulyanovsk to be completed, but it was still reinsured.

              TAVKR "Admiral Kuznetsov" is our only aircraft carrier, its loss is a loss of competence both in the construction and operation of carrier-based aircraft, these are lost decades. This is what the USA and even China would very much like.

              With such close attention to the Tavkr and the fire, and this after the accident with the dock ?!

              I would check who and what is doing there.
              1. -1
                December 12 2019
                Or maybe it’s not luck, but numbered sabotage of the modernization of the TAVKR and deversions?

                That would be the United States and even China would very much like.

                It's much easier. The loot was cut, now the traces are covered up through the "human factor".
                1. -4
                  December 12 2019
                  It's much easier. The loot was cut, now the traces are covered up through the "human factor".


                  Do not smack nonsense !!! At a shipyard, all accounting is monitored and verified. There the price tag from scratch can not be lifted at times in any way.
                  1. -1
                    December 12 2019
                    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan


                    Do not smack nonsense !!! At a shipyard, all accounting is monitored and verified. There the price tag from scratch can not be lifted at times in any way.

                    Holy naivety. Well, or paid stupidity.
              2. 0
                December 12 2019
                Or maybe it’s not luck, but numbered sabotage of the modernization of the TAVKR and deversions? I would check who and what is doing there.


                Not so incredible. Especially after the detention of the "pravosek" in Murmansk.
            5. +6
              December 12 2019
              Well, it's like someone. Judging by some posts, someone is happy. Although really a mess everywhere. There are fewer people who want to work, who want to earn more. The level of professionalism is rapidly rushing to the plinth. While they were thinking about the stomach, they forgot about the brains. what However, BYAD.
        2. +9
          December 12 2019
          Quote: MoJloT
          It's Russia )

          You won’t believe it, but fires that have occurred during welding are a worldwide problem.
          1. +6
            December 12 2019
            You won’t believe it, but fires that have occurred during welding are a worldwide problem.
            Yes, that's right, one Cathedral of Notre Dame is worth something, but here the fire is only a link in the incessant "bad things")
            1. +1
              December 12 2019
              Quote: MoJloT
              You won’t believe it, but fires that have occurred during welding are a worldwide problem.
              Yeah right one Notre Dame Cathedral, but here the fire is only a link in the incessant "bad guys")

              ===
              today in Barcelona the plant is on fire
          2. +16
            December 12 2019
            Possible.
            But here it’s not the fire itself that is curious, but the chain of misadventures, which does not cease to pursue the unfortunate Kuzyu.
            Oh, I was not able to write novels! What literary material disappears!
            You can already make films about Kuzi’s heroic struggle with floating docks, cranes and your own planes. It’s a pity the combat path of the heroic aircraft carrier is not too long. For most of the time Kuzya stood in the repair, devouring folk money.
            1. 0
              December 12 2019
              Offset! Who would have taken to write your words could be as an abstract. And the epilogue "he died but did not surrender."
              1. +4
                December 12 2019
                better poem: "Kuzma served as an aircraft carrier, Kuzma smoked at the wall"
            2. +4
              December 12 2019
              Quote: Graf56
              It’s a pity the combat path of the heroic aircraft carrier is not too long.

              But how many names I changed! Previous names in the order of assignment: “Soviet Union” (draft), “Riga” (laying and launching), “Leonid Brezhnev” (completion), “Tbilisi” (testing)) ....
              Who can withstand this !? So the fortune-karma works out for each "name". And you are still surprised!
              1. +5
                December 12 2019
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                Previous names in the order of assignment: “Soviet Union” (draft)

                This is of course a bitter irony, but the “Soviet Union” does not want to serve the interests of capitalism. We see his fate like this.
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          4. +7
            December 12 2019
            Quote: Gray Brother
            fires that occurred during welding are a worldwide problem.

            Piously fulfill the requirements for the organization of welding work - and you will be happy! Surely the temporary post of the fire department B / O was not deployed, everything was left to the mercy of Mityukha-vulgaris with an electrode holder in inept hands. Hence the result. Moreover, the holds were certainly not prepared for welding. Otherwise, where would the fuel and lubricants come from !? If they were cleaned out, but steamed as it should be! then there will be nothing to grieve ... And if you have an "oil storage" under the floorboards, then there is nothing to croak about fire safety ...
        3. 0
          December 12 2019
          Honestly, not funny already. To constantly hide behind such words is to belittle the dignity of our state, to forget the achievements of our designers, ingenious scientists and great generals! And our people are decent, no worse than neither Europeans, nor Americans or anyone else. Enough already, it's time for the mind to take up and move forward. We constantly nod at the leadership of the country, then at the bourgeoisie. We should start with ourselves ...
          1. +5
            December 12 2019
            Yes, and our people are worthy
            We are all full, and worthy, and everyone else ...
            1. -1
              December 12 2019
              All of them are full, what prevents to increase concentration?)
              1. -2
                December 12 2019
                what prevents to increase concentration?
                There’s a saying: The country is waiting for heroes ...
                The question is how to reduce this concentration?)
                1. -2
                  December 12 2019
                  As I wrote above, first you need to start with yourself, and then you look and it will go. I was taught at the institute one useful truth. This science and fashionable libers as a general line - "Criticizing - offer." They learned to cope with the first part with a bang! But further - the trouble! True, I think from the left liberties, they would then turn into another political direction.
                  By the way, even in our hearts do we not sometimes suffer from liberalism?
                  1. +1
                    December 12 2019
                    As I wrote above, first you need to start with yourself
                    Hinting at your help in repairing an aircraft carrier?) Can you cook? There are 3 temporary vacancies.
                    1. -2
                      December 12 2019
                      Hinting at our love of criticizing everyone and everyone
                      1. -2
                        December 12 2019
                        Hinting at our love of criticizing everyone and everyone
                        Is that about how you criticize me now?)
                        1. +3
                          December 12 2019
                          Where, excuse me, did I contact you directly, except specifically for this post? In my opinion, is there a difference between the answer to a thought expressed by someone and the direct appeal to a person in order to make him comments, no?
                    2. +1
                      December 12 2019
                      You are you-wass with those who provide vacancies?
                      1. +1
                        December 12 2019
                        You are you-wass with those who provide vacancies?
                        Yes
                        1. 0
                          December 12 2019
                          lucky, sorry far, although depending on what conditions, how to personally communicate?
                        2. -2
                          December 12 2019
                          communicate in person?
                          Lichka is.
              2. 0
                December 12 2019
                All of them are full, what prevents to increase concentration?)
                The lack of hubs interferes.
          2. +6
            December 12 2019
            Leadership sets the tone
        4. +2
          December 12 2019
          One gets the impression that the ship is being restored by the Ravshans and Jamshuts.
        5. +18
          December 12 2019
          This is a disregard for safety! Welding work has an increased risk. The place of welding is being prepared,
          all fuel and lubricants are removed, places with a risk for ignition are covered with fiberglass. Be sure to put up a fire watch in the person of additional people with a fire extinguishing system at the ready (water hose and fire extinguisher). Continuous inspection of adjacent compartments. After completing welding work for at least another 15 minutes, the fire watch is not removed. This is from the main points. For good, more pieces of paper need to be filled before and after (this will also help to cover your ass later, if that).
          Actually, if the fire has just begun, you can cover it with a hat, if time is lost, then we have what we have. request
          1. -6
            December 12 2019
            Do you think they didn’t observe this? It’s not for you to collect fences and doors
            1. +5
              December 12 2019
              Do you think they didn’t observe this? It’s not for you to collect fences and doors

              First, there is no need to "poke", thereby showing disrespect for the interlocutor.
              Secondly: if TB were respected, then nothing would have happened. There, all scenarios are taken into account. Do you think the aliens were set on fire?
              1. -1
                December 12 2019
                Still, a person who doesn’t like contacting you, it’s kind of friendly, then it’s not like this, will it do? Well, this rent can say that the sleepwalkers are guilty, there should be the same at Kuznetsov TB and at the nuclear power plant, but there are enough burdocks everywhere .
                1. 0
                  December 12 2019
                  Yes, I do not like. I don’t know you and we are not friends after all. There will be an investigation, heads will fly, we will find out the details.
                  1. 0
                    December 12 2019
                    Is there anyone who can sharpen the sword Zing / Zeng ??? or Jamshuda with
          2. +1
            December 12 2019
            Firstly, the asbestos cloth, and secondly, 1 hour after the closure of the fire support is at the place of the hot work. Documentary firing is made out on the eve of the work (under the signature of all the performers providing from the industry and the fleet. It happened, what happened. If only people do not suffered seriously, a lot of friends work at Kuznetsovo. Cells are out of the zone, info 0.
            1. 0
              December 12 2019
              I usually order gas analysis in problem areas, but there’s a hold.
              1. +4
                December 12 2019
                Quote: VALERIK_097
                I usually order gas analysis in problem areas, but there’s a hold.

                You do not confuse the sewer with a ship’s hold? lol For it is already clear that fuel vapors are present there ... Yes
                During the production of welding works in tanks and closed rooms, a work permit is issued, where a mandatory condition is forced blow-in and exhaust ventilation of the compartment (tank), in addition to refractory mats, screens, etc. And the work is carried out by a couple of people, and the third from the top on the insurance ... But in terms of production, this is fucking shit. I myself have stopped such an outrage several times ... So, meanwhile, "how should it be" and the way it is actually sometimes there is not enough gasket from the engineering department ...
                A hard worker what? Give him a plan / shaft, otherwise ZP will not be! That humpback is sculpted in violation of TB and industrial safety ...
                AHA.
                1. 0
                  December 12 2019
                  Yes, everything is correct, and the journal of applications for ventilation must be filled, otherwise the shot and the master before the fire, together with the representative of the fleet (БЧ-5, КДЖ as a rule) are inspected. On one of the orders, the 5th hold forced l / s The Fairies forbade them to wash fire for two weeks, in their 4th week (the hydravists pulled off) the PGV week was washed out of all the cracks, but I sleep peacefully.
          3. +1
            December 12 2019
            After completing welding work for at least another 15 minutes, the fire watch is not removed.
            In Latvia, we have 4 hours after the completion of welding, the venue for these works remains under the supervision of a fire brigade composed of specially trained and instructed workers equipped with fire fighting and personal protective equipment. True, it is also not always satisfied. request .
        6. +2
          December 12 2019
          Well, that’s already outrageous gouging.
        7. +1
          December 12 2019
          Yes, how much you can step on the same rake!?! belay No.
        8. 0
          December 12 2019
          And what does it mean? "This is Russia"? At other shipyards, nothing like this happens, for some reason. So, the point is in the specific slobs responsible for this particular ship, at this shipyard, dock, etc. As the saying goes: every state of emergency has a first and last name.
          1. -1
            December 12 2019
            But the morons are constantly mocking other countries and spitting contemptuously, and here the bang and the log in the eye!
        9. +1
          December 12 2019
          Quote: MoJloT
          It's Russia )

          Song: "Hoh-ly burned the aircraft carrier,
          Overlooked the FSB,
          Where now to go to the soldier,
          To whom can I bear my sorrow? "
      2. -2
        December 12 2019
        Quote: Zhelezyakin
        Well, what a good thing !!!

        120 square meters is nonsense - these are three apartments "kopeck piece" by area, but this does not cancel the repair of course.
        1. +21
          December 12 2019
          in the eneyotseke nonsense?
          And the three affected bullshit? these are three in addition to drowned during flooding of the floating dock. And this is just a repair, no fighting.
          1. -1
            December 12 2019
            Quote: alexmach
            in the eneyotseke nonsense?

            Gene probably burned.
            Quote: alexmach
            And the three affected bullshit?

            Smoke breathed.
            Quote: alexmach
            And this is just a repair, no fighting.

            In one exceptional nation, the painter somehow burned a submarine, recently relatively - also not military operations.
            1. +1
              December 12 2019
              "One exceptional nation has a painter" laughing

              yes, they didn’t accept vocational schools in childhood
            2. +2
              December 12 2019
              In one exceptional nation, the painter somehow burned a submarine, recently relatively - also not military operations.
              Not tired of nodding at others, they say they still? Or is it you for complacency, like we are no worse than others? Don't you think this is a flawed position? In addition to a burnt boat, they have several dozen running around the seas, and we have only one aircraft carrier repairing, repairing, but still not being repaired ...
              1. 0
                December 14 2019
                ... so maybe that is the finger of God ..
            3. 0
              December 12 2019
              Fools love to scream - we are a great Orthodox power! And when they nod to them in a mess, then they transfer the arrows to exceptional nations, they say look at them, too, it happens! Not tired ???
        2. +15
          December 12 2019
          Yes, the point is not in the area, but in what is happening with the technology. We laugh at the failures of the Amers or the Britons, that either the elevator fails, the sea water enters the hold. And poor Kuzya, we can’t repair it in any way. The float dock sank, the fire on board, from a hike in tow ... It's commonplace, yes!
          1. -8
            December 12 2019
            Quote: Zhelezyakin
            And poor Kuzya, we can’t repair it in any way.

            You say so as if you were repairing it yourself.
            1. +15
              December 12 2019
              Not with your own hands - yes! But I pay taxes, and it’s a shame for the state !!!
              In addition, I am a constructor, and am worried about the technology, albeit not having any relation to the development of this ...
              1. +2
                December 12 2019
                Quote: Zhelezyakin
                albeit not having a relation to the development of this ...

                Well, you should at least know about the wear and tear of the equipment, "Kuznetsov" in the 90s remained without a berth and, in fact, spent ten years on the autonomous system, hence the permanent repairs, the whole energy sector is probably kapets there.
                1. +5
                  December 12 2019
                  Sergey,
                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  Well, you should know at least about the wear of equipment
                  unconditionally. Every day I come across this. Yes, the article is not about fire resulting from wear and tear ...
                  1. -4
                    December 12 2019
                    Quote: Zhelezyakin
                    Yes, the article is not about fire resulting from wear and tear ...

                    Once the solarium caught fire, then it flowed.
                    1. +7
                      December 12 2019
                      Here is such a wretch! What did it spread in the wrong place, but splashed ?! Hto gave her that right ?!
                      1. -1
                        December 12 2019
                        Quote: Zhelezyakin
                        What did it spread in the wrong place, but splashed ?! Hto gave her that right ?!

                        Depreciation of communications, or some kind of gasket.
                        1. +6
                          December 12 2019
                          Of course, I can understand everything, but this is not natural gas from a newly discovered field that cannot be noticed. There is a smell of a solarium and the person conducting / controlling the construction work could not help but pay attention to it.
                        2. -1
                          December 12 2019
                          Quote: Zhelezyakin
                          . There is a smell of a solarium and the person conducting / controlling the construction work could not help but pay attention to it.

                          Yes, there over the years everything stank of anyone, you can and of course turn.
                        3. +1
                          December 12 2019
                          Quote: Gray Brother
                          Deterioration of communications,
                          How long did he work there? It seems more propped up the wall.
                        4. 0
                          December 13 2019
                          Quote: valeryb
                          It seems more propped up the wall.

                          Without connecting communications from the shore. I, in this century, first read that Kuzi now has a pier, in 2017. And he left without his own pier in 1996.
            2. +2
              December 12 2019
              Quote: Gray Brother
              You say so as if you were repairing it yourself.

              And you so ulcerate, as if tomorrow he already repaired comes out of the dock ... belay
              1. -2
                December 12 2019
                Quote: ROSS 42
                And you so ulcerate, as if tomorrow he already repaired comes out of the dock ...

                But I am not writing as if the estimate for the repair work is on my desk.
                1. 0
                  December 12 2019
                  If it’s not a secret, where do you work, the deductions made in the form of taxes and other things are paid to the treasury?
                  1. +1
                    December 12 2019
                    Quote: Zhelezyakin
                    If it `s not a secret

                    Of course the secret laughing I gave a loyalty subscription, and so they pay, of course.
                    1. +1
                      December 12 2019
                      Well then, you must understand my point of view (it is not necessary to accept it) ...
                      1. -2
                        December 12 2019
                        Quote: Zhelezyakin
                        Well then you must understand my point of view

                        They accept not the point of view, but the budget for the next year. Including defense and all financial movers take place within its framework, somewhere they cut, somewhere they cut it, but all this happens within the framework of the total amount already ALREADY allocated last year.
                        I don’t understand why it bothers you so much - this money doesn’t concern you at all.
                2. -1
                  December 12 2019
                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  But I do not write as if the estimate for the repair work

                  But, for that ... for this ... Is there something about the fact of the fire and the timing of the repair? No?
                  No and no trial ...
                  1. -9
                    December 12 2019
                    Quote: ROSS 42
                    Is there something about the fire and the timing of repairs? No?

                    It is believed that 4 pre - it (you) is not enough. laughing
                    1. +4
                      December 12 2019
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      It is believed that 4 pred - this (you) is not enough

                      Golovan, but how many warnings do I have?
          2. 0
            December 12 2019
            You said everything correctly !!! Great Russia is not something to build, the old aircraft carrier cannot repair; But they mock the USA and England!
        3. +5
          December 12 2019
          120 squares is nonsense - these are three kopeck piece apartments
          And how many dvues are there in an aircraft carrier? lol
          1. +4
            December 12 2019
            Quote: MoJloT
            And how many dvues are there in an aircraft carrier?

            And what is his deck area? I won’t count without it.
        4. +6
          December 12 2019
          Quote: Gray Brother
          120 squares

          Already 600 squares .....
          1. +2
            December 12 2019
            Quote from Uncle Lee
            Already 600 squares .....

            Even a lot, this is the area of ​​smoke most likely. I watched a video on the TASS website - it looks like everything is burning on such an area.
            1. +3
              December 12 2019
              Quote: Gray Brother
              Even a lot

              On RBK, "creeping line" ... Now they said: The fire is localized!
      3. +5
        December 12 2019
        As a result, the repair of "Kuzyu" will completely finish. Can I give it to the Chinese for repairs? So maybe it will be more whole? Otherwise we are like a "monkey and glasses" with this steamer ...
        1. +6
          December 12 2019
          Quote: x.andvlad
          Can give in repair to the Chinese? So maybe it will be more whole?

          For this year, which has passed since the flood of the PD-50, the Chinese would have definitely restored and repaired it. Their competence is already greater than ours. And you won’t get sick with cuts there. So it would be cheaper. Only one problem - it’s a shame for the country. Therefore, it will be sawed rather than asked to repair the Chinese
        2. +1
          December 12 2019
          It’s not a big deal to give, it will be difficult to return back))) And how long will it work then? I'm afraid that Kuzi’s misadventures will not stop, but will only triple ...
      4. +1
        December 12 2019
        The question of its appropriateness was already hanging in the air, especially after the flooding of the dock, and now it will probably be completely beaten.
      5. +2
        December 12 2019
        What other sign from above is needed to understand ......... ????
        1. +1
          December 12 2019
          Apparently, Kuza needs to sink near the Mariana Trench.
      6. +10
        December 12 2019
        What they can think of to bury Kuznetsov. It was not possible to drown in the dock, so now they decided to burn it. I'm afraid he will not survive such a "repair".
      7. +4
        December 12 2019
        Quote: Zhelezyakin
        Well, what a good thing !!!

        The easiest way to write off everything is "bad" (otherworldly forces, karma, disfavor of the gods ...). But every "bad guy" has names and surnames.
      8. -3
        December 12 2019
        Write off the sorrow of the ship, and that’s all! We practically do not need
      9. 0
        December 12 2019
        Hmm .... "Unlucky" is a boat! soldier
      10. -1
        December 12 2019
        Uniform mess!
    2. +8
      December 12 2019
      No words ...
      Censored.
      1. +9
        December 12 2019
        Interfax:
    3. +1
      December 12 2019
      Still to the right in time.
    4. +6
      December 12 2019
      To the stake !!!
      All this looks like sabotage and sabotage.
      Bullied already!
      1. +35
        December 12 2019
        No. This looks like a completely destroyed production culture and the complete degradation of production forces. And this is worse than sabotage.
        1. +6
          December 12 2019
          Yes, I understand that it’s rather the fruits of devastation ... But this is already over the edge!
          1. +8
            December 12 2019
            Quote: Labrador
            Yes, I understand that it’s rather the fruits of devastation ...

            Exactly!
            They took it with a plow, and returned ... stop It was another ruler ...
            They took with the atomic bomb, the red flag and the anthem of the Soviet Union, there was still a fleet, the station of the ISS, free health care, agriculture, heavy industry, schools, vocational schools ... But they are not going to return ... Either they’re not finding the bomb maybe they haven’t reached the plow yet, although the state flag and anthem ... laughing
            1. +1
              December 12 2019
              They took with the atomic bomb, the red flag and the anthem of the Soviet Union, there was still a fleet, the station of the ISS, free health care, agriculture, heavy industry, schools, vocational schools ..

              THESE that took already worms ate.
            2. -6
              December 12 2019
              There was no agriculture in the USSR. At least later, all the "collective farmers" fled to the cities.
              1. 0
                December 13 2019
                There was no agriculture in the USSR.

                And the aliens imported bread and milk, among other things, without palm oil?
                1. -1
                  December 14 2019
                  This milk after lunch in the store was no longer found. Katyk could remain for some week. Why does a worker need milk after work, right? And after the sausage, my grandmother and I went to the store at 5 in the morning, and then, if we deigned to bring it, she collected all the grandchildren, because the extradition rate was in one hand. The store was jammed, not everyone was missing. I’m silent about the blue chickens that you don’t cook - you’ll chew horseradish. And by the way in the USSR they bought bread (grain) over the hill, for currency. Because its grain was of such quality that you couldn’t keep bread from it, cattle still didn’t go to feed. This is only a small fraction, without going deep so to speak.
            3. 0
              December 14 2019
              and what will happen when entu bonbu will be found, but if they also try to neutralize it))
        2. +9
          December 12 2019
          Moreover, "thanks" to the news about the submerged submarine, the opinion is created that slovenliness is becoming widespread.
          1. +9
            December 12 2019
            In my opinion this is no sloppiness. This is noticeably worse. This is a systemic problem that will only get worse.
            1. 0
              December 12 2019
              You are right, this is the system and its creator now rule Russia! It will only get worse!
        3. -8
          December 12 2019
          This looks like a completely destroyed production culture and the complete degradation of production forces.

          Give up already go?
          1. +19
            December 12 2019
            Give up already go?

            No, uncover the cap.
            1. -7
              December 12 2019
              No, uncover the cap.

              In the US Congress, the issue of resuming the production of F-22 fighters was raised twice, which at the moment I hope you will not argue are the pinnacle of American aircraft construction. Both times the commission came to the conclusion that the resumption of production will require so much money that the budget cannot afford it. If you remember about the triangle money and time complexity, then this really means the United States said "WE ARE NOT TECHNICALLY IN THE CONDITION TO RESTORE THE F-22 PRODUCTION"
              Do not want to write:
              This looks like a completely destroyed production culture and the complete degradation of production forces.


              Do you know what I mean? Moreover, the quote I quoted from your comment is NOT an analysis of the situation, but a propaganda slogan.
              1. +6
                December 12 2019
                Moreover, the quote I quoted from your comment is NOT an analysis of the situation, but a propaganda slogan.

                Are you ready to provide a more detailed analysis of the situation in the commentary? Well, please.
                No, this is not a slogan, it is the result of analysis, the information that is available to me.
                "WE ARE NOT TECHNICALLY IN STATE TO RESTORE F-22 PRODUCTION"

                At the same time, they plan to purchase 2000 F-35s. Which are technically capable of producing. No, I do not want to apply my quote to this case. It’s one thing to do something when it’s not advisable and quite another when it is impossible to do it .. or in theory it’s possible but in practice it doesn’t work out.
                1. -9
                  December 12 2019
                  Which are technically capable of producing.

                  Only even they recognize that they need the F-22 as a plane of excellence, and the F-35 is not suitable for this. IN THIS WAY, SPEECH IS NOT ABOUT THE EXPEDIENCY AND ABOUT PRACTICAL DISABILITIES
                  At the same time, they plan to purchase 2000 F-35s.

                  And this is irrelevant, we also rivet with hundreds of s-400.
                  So back to the question.
                  Do not want to write:
                  This looks like a completely destroyed production culture and the complete degradation of production forces.
                  1. +1
                    December 12 2019
                    Only even they recognize that they need the F-22 as a plane of excellence, and the F-35 is not suitable for this.

                    No, not at all. in fact, the F-22 is slowly becoming obsolete. They will need a new plane. Something like the hybrid 22-35 that was offered by Japan. With the F-22 we are talking about expediency and nothing else.
                    And this is irrelevant, we are the same with hundreds of s-400 rivets

                    Of course not to relate, as well as the fact that Russia even the RTOs can no longer build at a normal pace .. yeah.
                    Do not want to write

                    no I do not want to. You took one phrase out of context and contrasted it with a whole series of real catastrophes and incidents.
              2. +4
                December 12 2019
                Quote: bk316
                Do you know what I mean?

                Sir, does it not seem to you that "shoeing a flea" and sweeping the yard are two different things, as they once said in Odessa!
                You can not compare technology 5 industrial structure and the 3rd !!!
                But!
                1. -4
                  December 12 2019
                  You can not compare technology 5 industrial structure and the 3rd !!!

                  Did I compare?
                  The word "degradation" is not about the meaning of the development function, it is about its change.
                  Well, yes, the United States rolled back from the level of a good fifth-generation aircraft (by the way, the F-22 has nothing to do with the fifth way), and we just reached it. But they have degraded, haven't they?
                  And tovarisch Alexander does global findings about degradation from a special case non-compliance with TB. Well, since I am against double standards, let him draw the same conclusion from the special case of the F-22.

                  After all, I can still give many examples, and by the way similar to the one being discussed too. You know, back in the days of the USSR, they got statements about how well everyone is doing in the West and how clumsy we have (cars, clothes, electronics, furniture), and what is characteristic is that the authorities were also blamed for this, only then communist.
                  1. +2
                    December 12 2019
                    And comrade Alexander draws global conclusions about degradation from a particular case of non-compliance with TB

                    Is this a solitary case then? And tell me, comrade? Have you forgotten about the drowned dock a year ago? About ships built for decades? About the epic with almost any engine?

                    You know, back in the days of the USSR, they got statements about how well they do everything in the West and how clumsy we

                    By the way, I note about the West did not say a word, it was you who began to nod to them. I just do the same with the USSR-ovsky times. Ambitions emanating straight from there stumble into the possibilities of modern Russia. Fairly impoverished opportunities must be said.

                    auto, clothes, electronics, furniture

                    And tell me that it was not so? The Soviet Union objectively lagged behind in the production of consumer goods, even Soviet leaders recognized this, and obviously at that time that was all.
                    1. +2
                      December 13 2019
                      It is not surprising to lag behind after going through three terrible wars, but under the great USSR they rose by the middle of the 80s. began, however, to catch up in the field of consumer goods as well. Not everything was good, but it was not hopeless either! In 89-90 I worked at the production association "Alpha" in Gulbene, at the transistor section, serviced and repaired industrial robots equipped with technical "vision", made in the USSR. True, not all of the details were Soviet, but most. Eh, Union, Union ... I still miss it.
                      1. 0
                        December 13 2019
                        It’s not surprising to be left behind after going through three terrible wars

                        And before these three wars that were in parity or what?
                        industrial robots equipped with technical "vision", made in the USSR

                        And who would build these industrial robots now? This is despite the fact that the element base is many times more perfect and affordable. Development tools are much better.
                        1. 0
                          December 13 2019
                          And before these three wars that were in parity or what?
                          It's about the Union.
                          And who would build these industrial robots now? This is despite the fact that the element base is many times more perfect and affordable. Development tools are much better.
                          Engineers that are, and which, I hope, will be. hi
          2. -2
            December 12 2019
            It's too early) You can jump a bit
          3. 0
            December 12 2019
            No, stock up on popcorn and look further.
        4. +9
          December 12 2019
          But in Russia the number of dollar billionaires has increased, that's what the government is doing.
          1. +7
            December 12 2019
            Quote: Alexey from Perm
            But in Russia the number of dollar billionaires has increased, that's what the government is doing.

            Moreover, they, dollar billionaires, in principle, are not interested in protecting the Russian Federation, they all have 2nd citizenship and most of them already live abroad, so in the event of a war they won’t even have to blame them. Russia for them is the earning of money, thanks to the bonds bought by officials, holey laws. What can I say when even in the government sit the same disinterested persons with 2 citizenship.
            1. +4
              December 12 2019
              This is because our government is bourgeois and fulfills the interests of the oligarchs, and they don’t give a damn about the fleet
        5. +2
          December 12 2019
          Quote: alexmach
          This looks like a completely destroyed production culture and the complete degradation of production forces.

          This is a degradation of the fleet. Only the BS-5 commander PERSONALLY gives permission for explosive work.
          1. +2
            December 12 2019
            Quote: From Siberia we
            Only the BS-5 commander PERSONALLY gives permission for explosive work.

            The namesake, in TAVKRE, in addition to the military unit БЧ-5, there is also a commander J, a bunch of groupmen and no less than a bunch of warrant officers who are obliged to check the readiness of places for welding work ... And to control their production ...
            But with this, for sure, there were problems ...
            1. +1
              December 12 2019
              Yes, on any ship of the 1st rank there are enough of these division commanders. But there is (Was RBZH NK) now ROZH NK where it is written in black and white - Duty BCH-5 - prepares the place of work. The duty officer at the bottom - Checks. The commander of BCH-5 PERSONALLY examines and gives permission. The ship duty officer examines and gives permission to perform work. And there MUST be a watch in adjoining rooms. Where defense lines are created in advance. And there must be a support for the VPB in the compartment. So nothing was. All are delivered by cancer. The plant takes a pose: "You have to ensure the work, no good - you are disrupting the deadlines" And as a rule there are no sleeves, the mains are dismantled, the VVD cylinders are removed, the systems are de-energized. IPs, like the remote control, have served their deadlines and either do not work or have been handed over. And the RP, one per individual entrepreneur, and only for display to the inspectors. And if, at this time, the repair of heavy doors, ventilation shafts, then there is no sealing there. The plant put up three AEFIs and that's it. And you can't power the fire line on the "shore". The cables do not support the load. You can go on board this way exactly the compartment where the serviceable EDC is on fire. There was a case in practice when the storehouse of the AP property caught fire. It was absurd, but it burned exactly where there was something to be extinguished with.
      2. +2
        December 12 2019
        what the hell with dog sabotage with sabotage ...
        indifference and lack of care in the fleet are not eradicated ... it is akin to raising the flag, the admiral’s hour and breaking the flasks ... centuries-old traditions ...
      3. 0
        December 12 2019
        Quote: Labrador
        All this looks like sabotage and sabotage.


        This is not sabotage. It drank.
    5. +3
      December 12 2019
      There are no words - some expressions .... At this pace it can be repaired / modernized for decades (((There is already at the time to believe in the curse pursuing our only aircraft carrier, then one, then the other recourse
      1. 0
        December 12 2019
        Quote: Archivist Vasya
        There are no words - some expressions .... At this pace it can be repaired / modernized for decades (((There is already at the time to believe in the curse pursuing our only aircraft carrier, then one, then the other

        Why are you so pessimistic, "Ship repair is a condition, and it cannot be finished, it can only be stopped" is the formula for ship repair.
    6. 0
      December 12 2019
      And what can you do about fires? They are already taking a turn.
    7. +6
      December 12 2019
      USC sets fire to the ship, and then requires money to repair it ....
      1. +11
        December 12 2019
        Quote: Valery Valery
        USC sets fire to the ship, and then requires money to repair it ....

        How strange it turns out, don’t you find, according to the hat-patriots of VO, when the Americans saw the budget, they build aircraft carriers and other ships, and when we saw the budget, they burn them, drown them
    8. +4
      December 12 2019
      Obviously, professional welders are becoming less (
      1. -2
        December 12 2019
        Quote: awdrgy
        Obviously professional less welders

        Yes, welders are a real deal. Here if the number of "aircraft carriers" did not decrease ... belay
        1. +7
          December 12 2019
          Well do not tell. A good welder is now a problem.
          1. +1
            December 12 2019
            Quote: icant007
            Well do not tell. A good welder is now a problem.

            I know one, but he has a mortgage and a wife in a kindergarten ...
          2. -1
            December 12 2019
            I remember the time of years (13-14 years ago) when they paid a penny and we had to work on the next sharash-assembly, I put and welded the spore-welded glass onto a metal workbench so that you won’t tear it off without breaking. Where are those guys now? (
      2. +3
        December 12 2019
        This is not the welder's fault, but the one who sent him there to work in such conditions. Everywhere such a mess. Security is not respected anywhere that the mines explode then fires on ships and shopping centers and everyone without any changes right now they are outraged to carry out checks and everything will remain as it was at random the main saving and people are only thought about when they die.
      3. +6
        December 12 2019
        Yes, it’s not the welders, but the organization of the hot work on the ship ...
        maybe the site of the fire works was poorly prepared and in adjacent rooms ... maybe the watchmen on fire safety overslept the moment of fire ... maybe, apart from water and rags, there wasn’t enough fire extinguishing equipment to immediately eliminate the fire ... enough reasons ...
        1. +3
          December 12 2019
          Yes, the reason is now the same everywhere. Total lack of professionalism in all areas of life. But if even on unique ships they cannot ensure the safety of work, where the boss is on the boss and the boss is driving, then what can we say about other areas of work.
          When the hard workers climb together in three together in the sewer, and there all three die in the same friendly way.
          What is it? Mass stupor? How to explain it rationally ...
          1. +1
            December 13 2019
            The more bosses, the less order and rationality. hi
    9. UVB
      +2
      December 12 2019
      Video of a steaming ship
    10. +10
      December 12 2019
      I especially like to watch the Kremlin media, which at first dubbed the fire a "fire" (like flooding, cotton, incident, etc.) and how the information about the area of ​​the fire gradually grew, first a fire in the compartment, then 20 m2, then the whole section was engulfed in fire, now (at 11-53 in Moscow) 600 m2
      amusingly
      also the disaster with Chernobyl or Kursk was covered laughing laughing
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    11. +17
      December 12 2019
      And laugh at the Ukrainians ...
    12. +2
      December 12 2019
      And not Friday and not the thirteenth ... what
      1. +3
        December 12 2019
        13th tomorrow. think sinking? 600 sq. m fire is like a missile hit
        1. 0
          December 12 2019
          Quote: Last centurion
          600 sq. m fire is like a missile hit
          Fire cannot send him to the bottom of the sea. A fire is not a rocket. And one missile of such a giant will never ditch, at least with a conventional warhead - under no circumstances. As the saying goes: "Seven feet" to Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov "under the keel for another long summer".)
    13. +3
      December 12 2019
      eternal Russian "maybe" ???? recourse
    14. +2
      December 12 2019
      Everything as usual. All instructions are written in blood, I didn’t ride another chance during the repair work.
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    16. -4
      December 12 2019
      The causes of the fire are not reliably known; it is assumed that the fire could have occurred due to safety violations during welding.
      Whoever was involved in the ship repair knows that no repair is complete without it. For six months of repair, you burn twice. So there is nothing to write "useless", get down to business.
    17. -5
      December 12 2019
      Earlier, the head of USC Alexei Rakhmanov said that the cruiser will need additional repairs. This became clear after the ship was defective.

      How not to remember here:
      - Ah, Kuzya, look!
      Oh, and when I said at the lesson that there are buns growing on a bread tree, everyone laughed, even ... even slashed a deuce, y!
      “They always suffer for the truth!”

      1. -4
        December 12 2019
        Well, the fact that you love and value yourself very much is well known.

        But the number of days before the day before (4) is useful, valuable information laughing

        I’ll tell you a secret - besides you and the administration, no one else sees this number. Continue in the same spirit Yes
        1. +4
          December 12 2019
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Well, the fact that you love and value yourself very much is well known.

          I love objectivity, and your opinion - the opinion of a leavened patriot - is not interesting to me.
          The number of warnings is for my love of jargon. I try not to repeat.
          You cannot convince me with the facts - that’s why you get mad.
          And it offends me that people continue to believe the vile liars and cynics.
          1. -5
            December 12 2019
            Quote: ROSS 42
            You can’t convince me with facts - that’s it

            I'm not mad, you are absolutely uninteresting to me. As for the "facts" - with your rich inner world you do not perceive facts that are against the coat. Well, and what's the point of wasting energy on you, convincingly?

            Quote: ROSS 42
            I love objectivity

            I repeat - you love only the fact that you are stroking the wool. And yet - really love yourself, the most beautiful, smart ... well, and further on the list.

            Quote: ROSS 42
            your opinion is the opinion of a fermenting patriot

            Do not use words whose meanings you do not know. Buddy laughing

            Quote: ROSS 42
            Try not to repeat

            So try Yes
          2. +3
            December 12 2019
            Quote: ROSS 42
            And it offends me that people continue to believe the vile liars and cynics.

            And where did you get the idea that they believe Golovan? He's all in the minuses .. At the same time, he himself with his team constantly arranges "persecutions" especially against newcomers who do not shout hurray, thus normal commentators survive from the site .. Ordinary trolls, but every year they look more and more stupid against the background situation in the country .. hi
            1. -2
              December 12 2019
              Quote: Svarog
              Ordinary trolls

              "Svarog", the main troll on the site (which is with the manual) is exactly you. I'm not there near sit down stood. Yes

              "Svarog", aka "Underwater Hunter", aka Manka Bond ... laughing



              Don't take seriously people seriously - I don’t know how, call request

              Timur, damn it ... and his team Yes
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      2. 0
        December 13 2019
        5 days ago wrote
    18. +1
      December 12 2019
      Failure to comply with safety precautions is something we can’t eradicate. Well, just a shame already. And the welder Vasya will be guilty.
    19. -1
      December 12 2019
      Repair on a warship, students from vocational schools or something, or Ravshan with Dzhumshut))) Did not hear about safety precautions?
    20. -5
      December 12 2019
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Yeah ... Kuze is not lucky - Duck is not lucky !!! And what are the deadlines for completing repairs now?
      It is painful to read such articles ...

      it will be cheaper to write off while it is being repaired by a bunch of such incidents. Again, some negligence will come out. It's Russia. I remember the A-60 burned down when aviation equipment was drained from it to be sold later.
      1. +1
        December 12 2019
        hi Not all of this is ridiculous, of course, but all the same! The most fun of the latest incidents is the launch of a rocket by fighters in the hangar. Full tin. The main thing is without victims ... like.
        In general, the reason for all this is the glorified "As they pay, so I work" And so in all spheres of life.
        1. +3
          December 12 2019
          Quote: SNEAKY
          The main thing is all without victims ... like.

          Six in intensive care. One in an extremely serious condition ... It all depends on the doctors and the availability of artificial respiration devices, again hemodialysis ....
          May God grant the fighters health, and good luck to the doctors!
      2. 0
        December 12 2019
        so what the wack? you can minus me do not care wassat , and the fact that no one likes the truth. it means that you yourself also work negligently
    21. +2
      December 12 2019
      it is assumed that a fire could have occurred due to a breach of safety during welding.

      I hear such a description of the incident STRANGE and OPPOSITE at the same time !!!
      Nothing more to say, i.e. NO WORDS, but phrases are different, epic .... I think everyone knows himself.
    22. +1
      December 12 2019
      Long-suffering "Kuzya"!
      Safety written in blood. But many forget about it.
    23. +2
      December 12 2019
      Yes, leave Kuzya alone, drive him to Peter and make him a museum + shopping center with cafes, restaurants and cinemas.
    24. -1
      December 12 2019
      Set fire to sabotage. Guilty to the wall, those who did not ensure the safety of the facility in prison. Apparently, someone really does not want our aircraft carrier to enter service. The purpose of the events is linked.
      1. 0
        December 12 2019
        It is no coincidence that a terrorist from the "Right Sector" was caught in Murmansk the day before. You can see it)))
      2. +2
        December 12 2019
        Guilty to the wall

        I'm sorry, but when was the last time you saw this? In our country, pests sit in power, at least someone was attracted from them (I won’t name them, and everyone knows that).
        It is time to return article 58 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR ... hi
    25. +5
      December 12 2019
      Lead to write-off, gobbled up the money, they say recovery is not advisable.
      1. -8
        December 12 2019
        recovery is not advisable
        Restoring the problematic, without normal armament, the old aircraft carrier was initially not advisable.
        Write off
        And they’ll do it right, it was high time to cross out from the combat strength of the fleet.
        1. -3
          December 12 2019
          It would be wrong to simply withdraw from the fleet, and since the state spent a bunch of dough, which they drank, now you can safely write off.
    26. -2
      December 12 2019
      Near the cruiser "Aurora" he would have been more intact.
      1. -7
        December 12 2019
        Why not remember ...
    27. +3
      December 12 2019
      Kuzi is stable as always. Stably bad
    28. +1
      December 12 2019
      It seems that they want to get rid of Kuzi ...
      1. -2
        December 12 2019
        Quote: solovald
        It seems that they want to get rid of Kuzi ...

        Yes, it is very likely that our "partners" were able to find among our workers, colleagues.

        It seems to me that a very serious discussion is needed with the FSB and military counterintelligence officers.
    29. +3
      December 12 2019
      The mess in the country goes on increasing
    30. +3
      December 12 2019
      Quote: Gray Brother

      In one exceptional nation, the painter somehow burned a submarine, recently relatively - also not military operations.

      In 2014, the Elk painter heaped up $ 700 million. The Miami nuclear submarines were eventually decommissioned.
    31. +11
      December 12 2019
      At the moment, already 600 meters.
      The area of ​​fire on the aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov" has grown to 600 square meters
      Firefighters cannot extinguish a fire in one of the aircraft carrier's compartments. Due to the strong smoke, it is not possible to get inside. Now rescuers are preparing a so-called "foam attack" - that is, they are going to completely fill the burning room with a special composition.


      Problems actually 2:
      1) If it burns for a long time, then Kerch 2 - for the degradation of power structures = death will go.
      2) If the founder burns out, compartment by compartment - then the repair will go very far. Plus another question, how empty the machine burns. If the boilers / generators burn out = then it will take years if you wish to complete the full cycle of piece products at the factory again.
    32. +5
      December 12 2019
      bad luck with "Kuznetsov", trouble came - open the gate
    33. +5
      December 12 2019
      A star has come to the last aircraft carrier!
    34. +2
      December 12 2019
      I think a good story for a fantastic book about a ship that required sailing (airplanes, docks, now missing) to sail. the idea is free - contact us. And in the case, is someone responsible for safety measures during its repair in general? Under Comrade Stalin, a black car would have already called in for him ...
      1. 0
        December 12 2019
        Quote: Last centurion
        Is someone responsible for safety when repairing it at all?

        The commander of the ship. Well, after Syria, he’s a Herrroy !!! Star diseases, at least die but do !!!!
    35. +2
      December 12 2019
      Some kind of poor man ...
      Or maybe NATO was "damaged" or someone else brought recourse
    36. -1
      December 12 2019
      And what did diesel fuel do on the ship, which has been under repair for the last year and a half and is moving exclusively with the help of tugboats?
      1. -4
        December 12 2019
        Quote: Al Asad
        And what was diesel fuel doing on the ship, which

        Does the word "generator" mean anything to you? If not, leave the discussion; if he does, you have not read the material carefully.
        1. +2
          December 12 2019
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Does the word "generator" mean anything to you?

          In the assessments, 11 (so far) "talents" have already been noted who are not aware that sometimes there is a solarium in the generator room ...

          VO, where are you going? what
    37. +1
      December 12 2019
      Earlier, the head of the USC Alexei Rakhmanov said that the cruiser will need additional repairs. This became clear after the ship was defective.

      "Kuze" is not lucky. sad
      As if with such "repairs" did not have to rebuild it. sad
    38. +4
      December 12 2019
      It looks like the signing of the death sentence to Kuze. The energy compartment is already a very serious repair. I think that the commission of the Ministry of Defense will begin to raise the question of the appropriateness of further restoration. Kuzyu is pressured by the lack of qualified coastal support, the collapsed repair base and doubts about the fleet's current need for it.
      Sorry to lose such a ship. This is history, status, and the pride of the fleet. And now on the scales will be finances and expediency.
      I really hope that the 2 landing docks planned for laying in the Crimea will receive decent coastal infrastructure and qualified support from the manufacturer.
      1. 0
        December 12 2019
        It remains only to Kuznetsov to repeat the sad fate of the captured German aircraft carrier, which in the late 40s was crushed as a target.
    39. +1
      December 12 2019
      Well, well, today is one day after another. A helicopter fell boat while towing sank. And for dessert, the long-suffering Kuzya.
    40. -5
      December 12 2019
      In general, it has long been clear that apart from uryakalok, the aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov" does not need ANY-KO-MU.
      It’s one thing on the couch to drink beer and enjoy the presence of at least some kind of aircraft carrier in the fleet (it doesn’t matter that he cannot even go to sea), and it’s quite another thing to spend astronomical amounts of real money on a knowingly incapable trough.
    41. -3
      December 12 2019
      Quote: Golovan Jack
      Quote: Al Asad
      And what was diesel fuel doing on the ship, which

      Does the word "generator" mean anything to you? If not, leave the discussion; if he does, you have not read the material carefully.

      Can't I get power from the shore?
      1. 0
        December 12 2019
        And if the coastline is cut off?
        1. -3
          December 12 2019
          Well, surely let the ship burn better than the electricity supply from the shore will stop.
          L-logic.
          1. 0
            December 12 2019
            Your sarcasm would be appropriate if Kuzya was in the dock.
            1. -1
              December 12 2019
              My sarcasm is appropriate anyway. As far as I know, when mooring from the shore, even serviceable ships try to power up for the sake of saving the generators and fuel resources, and independent generation of energy by a ship undergoing major repairs is simply nonsense that does not fit into any gates. There is no justification here and cannot be, it can only be explained by the fact that for the kuzi not only there was no dock ... but even a simple place at the equipped pier. This, again, is an argument in the treasury of the fact that neither the fleet, nor shipbuilders, nor officials need the ship. No one except couch patriots.
        2. 0
          December 15 2019
          ... God, my God - in every city there are mobile power plants and compressors, not counting the road workers ..
      2. 0
        December 12 2019
        And can she pull out the TARK?
      3. +1
        December 12 2019
        Quote: Al Asad
        Can't I get power from the shore?

        Oh, finally came from the diesel fuel? Well, glory ... to work laughing

        And about "from the shore" - it's not for me ... buddy No.
    42. +1
      December 12 2019
      Just a few days ago the Garant aptly and caustically remarked at a meeting on the state of the Navy: "The point is that in a year you will have to answer, and not just like that ..."
      And here it is - an opportunity to answer, and not in a year, but, here, before the New Year! Sin is not to take advantage!
      And we hear the answer of a certain Rakhmanov - nothing serious, everything is almost fine!
      Inspires!
    43. +14
      December 12 2019
      A fire on the cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov", for the failure of the repair of which the president of the United Shipbuilding Corporation Alexei Rakhmanov was justified three days ago. The fire will allow the USC not to hand over the ship at all. Last fall, thanks to Rakhmanov's friends, a crane fell on Kuznetsova, a floating dock sank, and a "hole 4 by 5 meters" was formed. Prior to that, Aleksey Rakhmanov, a staff member of the British Ernst & Young, had failed in the delivery of the icebreakers Ob, Alexander Sannikov, Andrey Vilkitsky, and broke contracts with Atomflot and Gazprom. But he remained in office and received the Order of Alexander Nevsky from Putin's hands
      1. 0
        December 12 2019
        So the tsarzarap likes to hang up badges; the hero took the hero
    44. +1
      December 12 2019
      just a mess at the enterprise
    45. +9
      December 12 2019
      This is a complete scribe !!!!! Smoke spreading on a ship. WHY the alarm is not played? Not bulked up bulkheads? Why is FSB shift without IPs and remote controls? Where are sentinels in adjacent rooms? Where are THREE fire barrels at the site of explosive work? Why aren't the salary holds held? Why there was no exhaust ventilation during work? OXT system, SO-4 why does not work? (not launched). It looks like a violation of the Navy KU, NKROZH NK, RKZh RK. etc. Legs grow from the absolute ignorance of the personnel, from his sloppiness. Starting from the commander of the ship. But the first gingerbread already gets a duty on the bottoms and a duty on the ship.
      1. 0
        December 12 2019
        Quote: From Siberia we
        This is a complete scribe !!!!! Smoke spreading on a ship. WHY the alarm is not played? Not bulked up bulkheads? Why is FSB shift without IPs and remote controls? Where are sentinels in adjacent rooms? Where are THREE fire barrels at the site of explosive work? Why aren't the salary holds held? Why there was no exhaust ventilation during work? OXT system, SO-4 why does not work? (not launched). It looks like a violation of the Navy KU, NKROZH NK, RKZh RK. etc. Legs grow from the absolute ignorance of the personnel, from his sloppiness. Starting from the commander of the ship. But the first gingerbread already gets a duty on the bottoms and a duty on the ship.
        Meehan Sir. Meehan. request
    46. 0
      December 12 2019
      Rahmanyaku on gilyaka !!!
      1. +1
        December 12 2019
        With us, a British citizen can do everything and even work on a guest
    47. +2
      December 12 2019
      Now they’ll announce that the ship is everything, and the money allocated for repair is bye bye
      In general, looking at the service of "Admiral Kuznetsov" like it or not, you will believe in bad luck.
      And all this is very unfortunate
    48. exo
      +4
      December 12 2019
      Not that we cannot build, preserve, and that which we have. Sucks. Ship, sorry. Deserves a better fate.
    49. +3
      December 12 2019
      Our aircraft carrier will be written off .. A fire in the energy compartments is the burning out of cable routes, this is the death of equipment that is no longer being produced .. this is the deformation of structural elements ... When the dock drowned under it - I decided that it was still a diversion .. An no .. - this manual cuts the money and hides the ends in water .. If they don’t write it off, they will repair it for ten years .. until the commander in chief finally decides to send the ditched ship for scrapping ..
    50. +3
      December 12 2019
      Hmm, the news is unpleasant ... Poor "Kuzya" has no luck with him all the time, how many bucks are pouring into him, and the profit is 0 ... It's a pity of course to say this - but it may be easier to cut him with needles, it is clear that he is the last of the Mohicans, but he takes too many lives without participating in hostilities hi
    51. +3
      December 12 2019
      Quote: From Siberia we
      Why are the holds not cleaned of salar?

      There is fuel oil there .... I served on it as a conscript 93-95, we carried fuel oil from the holds in buckets to the upper deck into tanks, then used rags to dry all the bulkheads ..... when it was docked in Roslyakovo (which was sunk)
      1. +1
        December 12 2019
        For the hell of it, there are ROSH NK and ROSH RK. The holds must be washed out. Tanks are steamed or filled with water in an emergency
      2. +2
        December 12 2019
        Quote: Pytnik
        There's fuel oil there

        We are talking about ETD, ship power plants. There were 4 of them in Kyiv. Each was powered by 2 diesel generators, and they run on solar power. So don’t confuse KTU and DG,
        Salute, new guy! drinks
        1. 0
          December 12 2019
          I won’t argue, I served in PG-1, but about the new guy, not knowing your age, place of service and rank, I won’t be rude in response, I’ll restrain myself....
          1. +2
            December 12 2019
            Quote: Pytnik
            Without knowing your age, place of service and rank, I will not be rude in response, I will restrain myself....

            Lesha! This does you credit!
            I served on the carrier from 1976, until the academy, then - submarines, headquarters of formations and associations. The length of service was only 43 years... True, he never received an admiral...
            Two children, the youngest - a son - cap 3 rank, serves in the Northern Fleet... But the rest is like all reserves.
            Don't be offended: I won't joke like that anymore... wink
    52. -3
      December 12 2019
      Or maybe to hell? Well, we’re not interested in an aircraft carrier... Well, it happens... Or will we resist and keep hammering until it’s finished?
    53. -3
      December 12 2019
      Khan's ship.....it's easier to write it off now...IT's not worth the money..
    54. +1
      December 12 2019
      The ship, like a living person, is “slack,” “hose,” does not want to serve, in general, asks to retire.
      1. +3
        December 12 2019
        Quote: Rusfaner
        The ship is like a living person

        I completely agree with the first part of the statement. But from the second...... Your ship..... part of you.... it takes care of you... But a person MUST take care of it and then he will not betray, he will not let you down, he will do for the person All. Only officials and careerists... For them he is just iron. When a sailor says “iron,” one can hear warmth, pride and sometimes regret in his voice. For navy officials, he is just a piece of steel and dough. Now everything is being transferred to money, and they are saving everywhere and on everything.
        1. +1
          December 12 2019
          You are right - our souls are in this “hardware”! But, in this case, I'm just joking about the situation.
        2. +1
          December 12 2019
          Quote: From Siberia we
          Now everything is being transferred to money, and they are saving everywhere and on everything.

          That's the whole point! Yes
    55. +2
      December 12 2019
      What is diesel fuel doing there, why didn’t they drain it?
      unlucky ship, I have big doubts if accidents happened so many times, is it worth restoring it, maybe it’s better to scrap it, unlucky ship
    56. +3
      December 12 2019
      Quote: 30 vis
      There is a name for these goodies! Sloppiness and lack of control!

      “Every accident has a name and patronymic” (c). Agree. I myself have been sailing for ten years and have seen enough...99% of all emergency situations are the consequence of someone’s oversight, carelessness and laziness.
    57. +1
      December 12 2019

      Judging by the fact that the forces and means of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Emergency Situations of Russia for the Murmansk Region and the Special Directorate of the Federal Border Guard Service N48 of the Ministry of Emergency Situations of Russia are engaged in extinguishing the fire on the Admiral Kuznetsov, the fire is serious.
      The press service of the Zvezdochka ship repair center confirmed that a fire occurred in the hold of the first power compartment of the aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov while performing hot work. “We confirm that a fire actually occurred in the hold of the first power compartment during hot work. The workers performing the work were evacuated. Firefighters are currently extinguishing this fire,” said the press service of the company repairing the cruiser.
    58. +6
      December 12 2019
      They work systematically. Doc was drowned, Kuzya was set on fire.
    59. 0
      December 12 2019
      The "Admiral" doesn't want to go to sea...
      1. -3
        December 12 2019
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        The "Admiral" doesn't want to go to sea...

        He really wants to take revenge for all the bullying he suffered.. angry
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    61. 0
      December 12 2019
      Quote: SNEAKY
      hi Not all of this is ridiculous, of course, but all the same! The most fun of the latest incidents is the launch of a rocket by fighters in the hangar. Full tin. The main thing is without victims ... like.
      In general, the reason for all this is the glorified "As they pay, so I work" And so in all spheres of life.

      This is called complete irresponsibility and indifference. It's not just sad, it's a disaster.
      this is like from the series * why was I there alone? that’s not me* (about launching a rocket in a hangar) but in this case with Kuznetsov, the dude went to unscrew the valve in the oxygen tank while doing welding work and his hands were covered in oil! Here you have a safety violation and, as a result, an instant fire
    62. -3
      December 12 2019
      The saboteurs are clearly working off dollars.. Poor “Kuzya”...
      But modernization still needs to be completed, to the detriment of EVERYONE! hi
    63. 0
      December 12 2019
      Not happy - for the 4th time TASS reports - “The source of the fire has been localized” - should this be understood as “The source of the fire is localized within the hull of the ship”?
    64. 0
      December 12 2019
      start shooting for this already. And for the sunken dock
    65. 0
      December 12 2019
      It seems that with such “repairs” they decided to scrap it.
    66. +1
      December 12 2019
      If this is again our same carelessness, as usual... crying
      I remember when at the KMOLZ, in Kronstadt in 79, our team worked on the Kronstadt BOD that was being repaired (What a coincidence!). And at the planning meetings with the heads/builder, I remember well that all welding work was provided at each point by a sailor with a couple of buckets of water and so on. fire-fighting property. It seems like the process has been worked out for decades.

      But when repairing the Kuzi, they hoped for MAYBE???
    67. -1
      December 13 2019
      It would be better if they cut it into metal than to embarrass themselves like that.
    68. 0
      December 13 2019
      It's a pity, it's a pity that our ship is sinking! And not in battle with the enemy, not at sea, but on a repair slipway. What is this, someone’s negligence, a consequence of the abolition of all GOSTs and regulations of the Soviet era, recently completed by government order, an error during welding work, or, scary to think, someone’s malicious intent? Just the day before, a Ukrainian terrorist bomber was caught in this city. Does anyone believe in lone terrorists? Already in the XNUMXth century there were none...
    69. 0
      December 14 2019
      Ships are on fire, cinemas, children's camps, taiga. A system of carelessness and irresponsibility. The deep state has rotted.

    "Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

    “Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"