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Exactly 25 years ago, the first Chechen war began

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Exactly 25 years ago, the first Chechen war began

Exactly 25 years ago, on 11 of December 1994 of the year, the first Chechen campaign began: federal troops entered the territory of the Chechen Republic, which at that time was led by former Soviet general Dzhokhar Dudayev. The counter-terrorist operation, which escalated into a real full-scale war, led to numerous casualties among both the military and the civilian population.


The entry of federal forces into Chechnya was carried out on the basis of the decree of the President of Russia Boris Yeltsin "On measures to ensure law, order and public safety in the territory of the Chechen Republic", signed on December 11 1994 of the year.

Our goal is to find a political solution to the problems of one of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation - the Chechen Republic, to protect its citizens from armed extremism. But now the peace negotiations, the free expression of the will of the Chechen people are hindered by the impending danger of a full-scale civil war in the Chechen Republic

- Yeltsin said in an appeal to Russian citizens.

One of the reasons for the outbreak of the first Chechen war is called the sovereignty gained by Chechnya in the 1991 and the “lawlessness” that began after this, coupled with the genocide of Russians in the republic. Dudaev, who led Chechnya, called for gazavat against the Russians "until the last Chechen."

Starting in March 1994, on the 25 of each month, they began to take hostages in one of the cities of the North Caucasus. It was already impossible to endure further. (...) we were directly told that the decision of the political leadership of the country was to prepare an operation to restore constitutional order in the republic

- recalls Anatoly Kulikov, who at that time held the post of Deputy Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia.

According to Sergei Stepashin, who was then head of the Federal Counterintelligence Service (now the FSB), the Russian army at that time was “in a depressed state”, many officers were forced to leave for the civilian due to chronic salary defaults, there were no combat units, so they threw the attack all that was available.

I have all the special forces, you know how many people are left? 27 people (...) Of course, boys should not be sent there, maybe it was not necessary

- he said, adding that the Russian army did not have a normal connection, the Dudaevans were aware of all the negotiations.

At the same time, the Chechens were armed much better, with the latest weapons, which came from abroad, including from Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

The main face of the first Chechen war was the Minister of Defense of Russia Pavel Grachev, who decided to conduct an assault on Grozny and Dudaev’s palace in late December 1994. He promised Yeltsin that he could quickly take the capital of the Chechen Republic. However use tanks during the assault it turned out to be useless: in urban conditions, they became an easy target for militants. As a result of the storming of Grozny on New Year's Eve, more than 1000 Russian soldiers were killed, several hundred people were injured.

Subsequently, the fighting lasted another year and a half with varying success. After the death of Dudaev, Aslan Maskhadov, a field commander and former colonel of the Soviet army, came to power. In 1996, he signed the Khasavyurt Accords, which led to a temporary truce with the federal center, which lasted until 1999 and ended with the start of the second counter-terrorism company.

As a result of the first Chechen war, the irretrievable losses of personnel of the illegal armed groups of Chechnya are estimated at 2500-2700 people. Losses of Russian troops amounted to over five thousand people.
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  1. Orkraider
    Orkraider 11 December 2019 18: 05
    +73
    Silence ... I grieve for all the fallen there. Remember. Mourn
    And I remember everyone who helped our enemies! I can’t forgive neither Georgians nor Ukrainians for those times. My bros were filmed by mercenaries who went to Georgia and it was impossible to pursue beyond the border. I remember everything well. And the cries from abroad glorifying the "rebels" .. since then I have ceased to believe in the West and became a fierce patriot.
    1. Finches
      Finches 11 December 2019 18: 29
      +27
      That something is being planned. The first signs of preparation for a military operation appeared at the end of '93. Only I realized this much later. The training tank division in which I served sharply began to be understaffed and fuel and lubricants appeared for military training. After the collapse of the Union and the flight of national minorities, for almost 2 years the division was understaffed by 60-70 percent. There was only enough strength for the outfit and the guards ... And here, up to 100% of the states of peacetime for the autumn call (immediately after the shooting of the White House) were recruited and the intensity of combat training increased sharply ... They even started to shoot with regular shells! There was exactly one year left before the war ...

      By the way, the same parsley happened in 1999 - then all military schools graduated young lieutenants in late March, early April. The officers arrived in the troops, respectively, in early May and began to adapt, etc. 4 months remained before Basayev’s attack on Dagestan. The early graduation of officers, which coincided with the spring draft, made it possible to staff primary positions and conduct effective combat coordination of units ... And this played a role in Dagestan and then in Chechen! Without any conspiracy theories - just remember some parallels!
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      2. hohkn
        hohkn 11 December 2019 20: 50
        +6
        Quote: Finches
        The first signs of preparation for a military operation appeared at the end of '93.

        Not at the end. We rode to North Ossetia in the summer of 1993, and the Kuban and Stavropol were almost under siege in the spring of 1993. The first business trip was in early May 1993. My youngest daughter was only 2 weeks old then.
        1. Finches
          Finches 11 December 2019 20: 54
          +4
          I mean, that the mass re-equipment began in the fall and winter of '93 and it was very noticeable! And in the North Caucasus Military District it was felt - undoubtedly, but here in ZabVO this was not thought at all!
        2. smile
          smile 12 December 2019 01: 32
          +6
          You're right. in all right.
          But.
          Then there already existed an interethnic strongly money-motivated organization - the Confederation of Mountain Peoples, which had already drunk and shed buckets of blood in the Caucasus and in Kosovo, both its own and that of others, and, unfortunately, our business was watched badly .....
          The collapse of the country ...
          those who worked on this topic. Suddenly realized that the topic was not needed, there was no monetary allowance, the reports went to trynd ....
          in Russian - to all departments concerned what happened in Chechnya before the Khazar divertissement ....
          but as for Chechnya, then
          leaving 40 working vehicles of the Shali tank regiment, a significant part of the artillery, both barreled and rocket-propelled, two-thirds of the military equipment of the remaining military units, 70 thousand barrels, aviation .... * (no wonder at the beginning of the first Chechen war 274 were destroyed at the airfields LA ... if I don’t confuse anything, then for military purposes at least a fifth of the destroyed one could be used)
          including the KGB deposits - what surprised me the most is that our state machine did turn up ......
          And the attempt to clean up everything that was shabby did not begin in December 94, but on November 4, 1994.
          yes, yes, November, it was then that the MOST first operation to seize Grozny began. Then the Czechs had a real civil-gang war. :)))
          The trouble is that decent Czechs had neither weapons nor organization ...
          Then the guys from the Kantemirovsk division partially occupied the "jobs" of the armored combat vehicles commanders, the infantry - the guys of Ruslan Labazanov, Gantamirov, Czech policemen and some of us ... do not understand what status ... they gave passports to everyone ...
          So it goes...
          The result - the first official assault on Grozny, the Russian Armed Forces were commanded by people who should have known that almost a month and a half before them, in terms of the areas of technology they used, almost XNUMX children with at least twenty tanks passed (I have not seen , maybe there were more) .... then, the so-called Chechen opposition was clamped, part of the BBM was burned, part was taken, and, after the Czechs first shot fire, and then agreed, the heads of the dead Kantemirov were cut off ... by six, like ... but they didn’t take a single one alive, not sure to think so, Czechs would otherwise feast of cannibals would suit much more cheerful ...
          This is all November 94 ....
          It was difficult to return.
          quite.
          it was especially difficult when we got to the draft board in Dagestan and asked us to send us home .... :)))) but that's another story ..... :)))))
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 December 2019 21: 21
        +2
        Quote: Finches
        4 months remained before Basayev’s attack on Dagestan. The early graduation of officers, which coincided with the spring draft, made it possible to staff primary posts and conduct effective combat coordination of units ..

        So, the EBN and its clique knew everything, and did everything to make war, civil war. No mercy.
      4. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 12 December 2019 19: 02
        +1
        October 15, 1994 - the "Chechen opposition" "took" the city of Grozny, but left it. November 26, 1994 - an unsuccessful assault on the city of Grozny - 50 "two hundredths", 21 prisoners, about 40 tanks lost (our soldiers' losses were "hired" by the FSK). On December 1, 1994, Russian aviation destroys the Ichkeria aviation. The war in Chechnya "was in full swing" and until December 11, 1994 ...
    2. seacap
      seacap 11 December 2019 19: 01
      +21
      And I remember very well how I was wearing pure camouflage under NG, but the smoke-burning fire and gunpowder from an airplane hit Moscow all in festive lights, what contemptuous looks I constantly caught, and what humiliation I experienced that I heard in a whisper behind my back
      1. Evil543
        Evil543 11 December 2019 20: 58
        +5
        Losses of fighters in 2500-2700, data from the memorial?
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 11 December 2019 22: 49
          +8
          Quote: Evil543
          Losses of fighters in 2500-2700, data from the memorial?

          Apparently yes. There, only "nonresident guest performers" from Arabs and other "sympathizers" (Georgians, Ukrainians, Balts, etc.) were put to sleep more than one hundred. If only in one battle with the 6th company of the Pskov division at the height "776" when leaving the Argun gorge, the militants lost about 500 people, then what can we say about the results of the whole company. The article, as well as the fact that there is no reference to the author of this "creation" (the original source), raises doubts.
          1. Evil543
            Evil543 11 December 2019 23: 09
            +2
            Be careful with the statements, admin mustard will give out
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 11 December 2019 23: 16
              +6
              Quote: Evil543
              Be careful with the statements, admin mustard will give out

              Well, you know that on our site a person is a friend of a person, and an administrator, moreover, is a comrade and brother. If he shipped it, then he entered the minefield. You will be more careful next time. If a sapper makes a mistake once, then we have a "skoshchuha" - up to 10 flightslaughing
          2. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 12 December 2019 00: 33
            +3
            Colleague, feat of the 6th company - this is the second campaign. Article for the first. But I agree about the number of spiritual losses.
          3. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 12 December 2019 06: 13
            0
            Dear, we are talking about the first war, and the 6th company left during the second
          4. major147
            major147 12 December 2019 13: 49
            +4
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            from Arabs and others

            Somehow during the mopping-up, the Arab was "put to sleep", thrown on the armor and brought to the headquarters, and there the elders. Not ours, they say, bury it yourself somewhere. This is the attitude of the locals to the "Gaster". And the soldiers of my company put that shield on the border with Ossetia when they were in the commandant's office of Naurskaya in January 2000.

            I'm left with those fighters.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 December 2019 21: 26
        +8
        Quote: seacap
        but the smoke-burning fire and gunpowder from an airplane ended up in Moscow all in festive lights, what contemptuous looks I constantly caught, and what humiliation I experienced that I heard in a whisper behind me

        And these "democrats" rejoiced and dumped the foam, none of them and their children were in the trenches, and did not go on the attack with the last patron. But they got applause from the overseas owners, and our mothers received "funerals" and a sealed coffin.
  2. NEXUS
    NEXUS 11 December 2019 18: 06
    +39
    The first Chechen one ... burn in hell for Yeltsin and the Co., which leaked so many of our guys there.
    1. cost
      cost 11 December 2019 18: 17
      +22

      Kulikov about the beginning of the Chechen war
      Anatoly Sergeyevich, do you remember this day well - December 11, 1994?

      - Of course I remember. I, as well as the leaders of the rest of the power structures that took part in the operation, were at that time in Mozdok. The night before Grachev (Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation in 1992-1996. - “MK”) approved all the schedules, all the details of the plan. Everything, it would seem, was settled and agreed. Separated around midnight. In full confidence that the operation will begin as planned at 5 in the morning, I, without undressing, lay down in my trailer. Woke up 10 minutes before the appointed hour. Waiting for a signal. 5.00 - no signal. What?

      I’m calling the center of combat control. The phone was picked up by General Vyunov, head of the operational department of the North Caucasus Military District. “Yuri Ivanovich,” he asks, “what’s the matter, why is there no signal?” “The signal,” he answers, “will be at 8 o’clock.” It turns out that when Anatoly Romanov and I (in 1994–1995, deputy commander of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation Ministry of Internal Affairs, commander of the operational group of the explosives in the North Caucasus. - MK) left the Central Bank, Mityukhin (commander of the North Caucasian Military District. - MK) called one General, reported that one of the units is not ready for a speech, and asked to postpone the beginning for three hours. Mityukhin, in turn, asked Grachev about it, and he gave the go-ahead.

      It just freaked me out. "What are you doing? - screaming into the phone. - Today is Sunday: the Ekazhevsky intersection (Ekazhevo, a village in the Nazran district of the Republic of Ingushetia. - MK), where the car market will be packed with cars in the morning! Not a single column, not a single car will pass there! And there is no other way in this direction! ” But Vyunov flatly refused to wake Mityukhin. Then I myself went to him at the CP. Literally flew in - every minute counted. I could not restrain myself, I covered the commander of the district with obscenities. "What are you doing?! - screaming. - You need to start immediately! Pick up the phone! .. ”But Mityukhin said that Grachev would not be bothered about this.

      I tried to contact Grachev myself - they’re not connecting. He made his last attempt - he turned to Yerin (the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation in 1992-1995. - “MK”): “Viktor Fedorovich, raise Grachev!” But Yerin was also dissatisfied with my perseverance: “Well, he is the Minister of Defense. They know better there ... ”Well, here I understood everything. I realized that we will disrupt the operation.
      - In general, the answer to the question when she didn’t go according to plan was ...

      - Yes, from the very beginning. Already in the early morning of December 11, it became clear to me that we did not work out what we had planned the day before. The surprise factor was lost. It’s one thing to rush along the sleepy streets at five in the morning, and it’s quite another to slip past the populous Caucasian bazaars. It is clear that a few minutes after the start of our movement, the enemy headquarters will be notified of this and begin to calculate the situation and take retaliatory measures.

      All my pessimistic forecasts, unfortunately, came true. The main roads were blocked by crowds of a hostile population. As I expected, at the Ekazhevsky car market, our convoy ran into a traffic jam. While our drivers were trying to part with the cars, the Ingush, who were sympathetic to Dudaev, began to cut brake and fuel hoses near our cars, to puncture tires. Several cars were burned altogether ...

      To see the general picture of the offensive, that day, taking a videographer with me, I took off in a helicopter and flew around all the main routes. I saw that in the Upper Achalukov region (a village in the Malgobek district of the Republic of Ingushetia. - MK) a group of Ingush waving white flags blocked the way for the paratroopers. Before my eyes, the convoy of airborne forces, numbering more than seventy armored vehicles, turned around and went in the opposite direction. I saw how our cars were burning at the Ekazhevsky intersection ... Not a single car from this convoy then came further than Ingushetia. These units are stuck here for a very long time. Here is the price of one ill-conceived, stupid decision ...

      In the evening I showed this film to Grachev. The problem, of course, was not only the delay in starting the operation. It became clear that the army was completely unprepared for hostilities on its territory, for a war with its people. For us, the internal troops, participation in such conflicts was already quite commonplace: we have been “tumbling” in them since 1988. Army officers and generals were still in the grip of the theory that we were taught in schools and academies. The army, according to it, was intended only to protect against an external aggressor - law enforcement agencies, special services and internal troops had to deal with internal conflicts.

      That day I was pleased only with our 81st PON — the regiment of operational assignment of internal troops operating in the Mozdok direction: it was going clearly, as if to the exercises, along its route. On the same day, his baptism of fire took place: in the area of ​​the village of Bratsk, the regiment came across a barrier to the militants. The head of intelligence gave the command: "Immediately destroy!" And the regiment moved on.

      This was the only unit of the Russian Federation that completed its combat mission that day.. The regiment went to the northern outskirts of Grozny, in the Petropavlovsk region, and was fixed there.
      1. Glory1974
        Glory1974 11 December 2019 20: 26
        +11
        This was the only unit of the Russian Federation that completed its combat mission that day. The regiment went to the northern outskirts of Grozny, in the Petropavlovsk region, and was fixed there.

        he was not the only one; he was part of the 54th operational division. 8 Rohlinsky corps also completed the task. But slipping in the early days, these units grabbed their further.
        81 pon in Petropavlovskaya was ambushed, losing 11 fighters
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 December 2019 21: 39
        -7
        Quote: Rich
        That day I was pleased only with our 81st PON — the regiment of operational assignment of internal troops operating in the Mozdok direction: it was going clearly, as if to the exercises, along its route.

        I’ll say directly, "You are my godok," well, what a bastard you are, master of escorts.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 December 2019 21: 42
        +1
        Quote: Rich
        Kulikov about the beginning of the Chechen war
        Anatoly Sergeyevich, do you remember this day well - December 11, 1994?

        I look at the photo, but only one medal from the USSR, the rest from EBN, is disgusting.
      4. maw
        maw 11 December 2019 22: 39
        +9
        Quote: Rich
        That day I was pleased only with our 81st PON — the regiment of operational assignment of internal troops operating in the Mozdok direction: it was going clearly, as if to the exercises, along its route. On the same day, his baptism of fire took place: in the area of ​​the village of Bratsk, the regiment came across a barrier to the militants. The head of intelligence gave the command: "Immediately destroy!" And the regiment moved on.

        This was the only unit of the Russian Federation that completed its combat mission that day. The regiment went to the northern outskirts of Grozny, in the Petropavlovsk region, and was fixed there.


        Native regiment, and 20.12.94/10/XNUMX. we just lost XNUMX people in Petropavlovka.
      5. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 12 December 2019 00: 37
        +3
        By the way, Kulikov also has questions. I remember how he spoke about the blockade of Raduyev in Pervomaisky, the “triple ring”. According to the comrade, their detachment, along with Krasnodar Alpha, was the first there, there was no ring. Turntables volley on their figachili, good without death, no mess and vanity.
  3. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 11 December 2019 18: 07
    +25
    I will clarify a little ... if in abbreviated form, then the First War was called by officials as "Guidance and restoration of constitutional order", something like this ..... regarding losses ... I'm afraid we won't know the exact numbers very soon ... blessed memory of the dead and missing missing in this war!
    1. Gvardeetz77
      Gvardeetz77 11 December 2019 18: 31
      +10
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      regarding losses ... I'm afraid the exact numbers will be found out quite soon ...

      That's for sure, so much time has passed, but there is still no exact data! My cousin, while serving as a riot police officer during a second trip to the first campaign, was blown up by a mine, died a month later in a hospital, and so there aren’t any death lists, although they are quite voluminous according to 94-96gg and broken down by departments. Or the dead from wounds in hospitals were not taken into account in losses ??
      1. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 11 December 2019 19: 04
        +5
        The confusion was terrible, maybe in the lists of the missing, although the Ministry of Internal Affairs was stricter, and in the lists of the dead they seemed to have died from wounds, though ... if there are different numbers in my regiment ...
      2. beeper
        beeper 12 December 2019 02: 42
        +2
        Or the dead from wounds in hospitals were not taken into account in losses ??

        hi Do not be surprised, since the times of Afghanistan, this is a "proven practice" of accounting for our losses ... those who died from wounds (and there were also our servicemen who died from infectious diseases!) In the hospitals of the Union were not considered "by Soviet statistics" dead "across the river" ... recourse
      3. maw
        maw 12 December 2019 07: 59
        0
        Anatoly! In each part, a register of combat and sanitary losses is kept. Everything is signed there: who, where, when, under what circumstances, whether it is connected with the performance of official duties. Write a request to the riot police about the circumstances of the injury, they must give an answer within a month.
        1. Gvardeetz77
          Gvardeetz77 12 December 2019 08: 32
          +1
          All circumstances are known, the guys and the commander came to both the uncle and the grave, they told me, and he managed to go to his hospital (I, alas, did not understand military science at that time). The question is different: the brother has already died in a hospital on the mainland, but he is not listed in the names of the dead, but how many are unspecified, i.e. how much are our losses more than official, if, as they said above, the dead were also not taken into account from illnesses?
  4. Vadim237
    Vadim237 11 December 2019 18: 08
    0
    The Chechen Gazavat was covered, like all the Arab "wars of Islam" that got there.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 11 December 2019 18: 11
    +29
    EBN is guilty! So many deaths! Such a pain! And he also Yeltsotsentr? Maybe it's time to reprofile?
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 11 December 2019 18: 17
      +12
      Yes, not only he alone ... he is at the head, it is indisputable .. but along with him it is necessary to put many others ... but what can I say .... drink without clinking glasses .... for the guys ... thank you Pskov brothers and bros from 503 SMEs ... if not for you ...
    2. Orkraider
      Orkraider 11 December 2019 18: 22
      +30
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      EBN is guilty! So many deaths! Such a pain! And he also Yeltsotsentr? Maybe it's time to reprofile?

      hi
      You know, when I was at the ECB, passing by the EBNcenter I could not resist khmmm: “I cleaned the nasopharynx with pleasure” and spat on the resulting product towards him. Involuntarily. I could not resist. And you know what surprised me? The police patrol did not detain me, and one of them showed a thumb up ..

      From this I conclude that our people remember and understand everything.
      Terrible times, survived as best they could and survived recourse

      And I hope we can educate our children and our youth so that they remember and know: there are enemies and there are "friends" who are worse than enemies.
    3. orionvitt
      orionvitt 11 December 2019 19: 00
      +16
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Such a pain!

      Yes, Yeltsin is the main anti-hero of our time, and Dudaev, what, an affectionate kitten and an innocent victim? Do you think you just had to sit and watch? How many Russians were cut, women children. Tens of thousands. How much was sold into slavery? How stupidly the first Chechen one was held is another question, but we must not forget about the betrayal of some dignitaries in Moscow and even in the General Staff. They leaked everything to the Chechens, starting from information and ending with the most modern weapons. Yes, the tragedy, I agree. Well, at least Russia has learned to solve such problems more efficiently and professionally. Bloody lesson counted.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 11 December 2019 19: 15
        -5
        Quote: orionvitt
        The bloody lesson counted.

        What are you talking about? That the first Chechen pipe was about, that in the second campaign, it played an important role.
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 11 December 2019 19: 22
          +9
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          the first Chechen pipe was

          Are you talking about the oil pipeline? Yes, during the war, he was not injured at all, he and our Chechens did not touch him. I already wrote about the betrayal from Moscow. You do not understand, I'm talking about people and terrorist threats.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 11 December 2019 19: 34
            -7
            Quote: orionvitt
            Are you talking about the oil pipeline? Yes, during the war, he was not injured at all, He was not touched by both ours and the Chechens.

            About her, darling. I believe that the first Chechen one began because of a pipe, when Dudaev poured oil distillation at world prices.
            The second Chechen ... Wow, Basayev’s fighters attacked Dagestan!
            And everyone is silent that Russia owed loot for the oil run, after which the Chechens blocked the pipe.
            1. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 12 December 2019 00: 39
              +3
              Vova, that is, there were no events in Dagestan? Did I understand you correctly? Did Basayev go for salary?
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              2. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 12 December 2019 02: 45
                -2
                Quote: Okolotochny
                Vova, that is, there were no events in Dagestan? Did I understand you correctly? Did Basayev go for salary?

                Lesha, you first find out why he wandered there.
                1. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 12 December 2019 12: 28
                  +1
                  Volodya, let's not refer to various conspiracy theories, historians for everyone and everything, politicians and experts of the same kind. As soon as you open the Internet, the same "specialists" are pouring in videos on completely different topics and issues. I do not exclude the restoration of control over the processing and transit of oil and its products. But this "theme" is not the only one and is far from the main one.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 12 December 2019 12: 35
                    -2
                    Quote: Okolotochny
                    I do not exclude the restoration of control over the processing and transit of oil and its products. But this "theme" is not the only one and is far from the main one.

                    And for me, it’s so basic. Dudaev requested transit at world prices ...
                    In 1999, the Chechen oil pipe was blocked.
                    1. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 12 December 2019 17: 14
                      -1
                      Volodya, stop copying the thoughts of specialists all over the world. 3 years Chechnya was de facto a separate territory. Nearby Russian regions, especially Stavropol lived like a volcano, kidnapping has become the norm. Do you know what it is to serve for months and years (almost constantly) in gain mode? It is because of Chechnya? My father’s friend was stolen from me. He is a former military man, went to Grozny to look at his parents' house. He was stolen, requested the amount, then a friend then turned to Tkachev and the representative of Chechnya in the region. The father was stolen by his former soldier. I recognized him, stole it and brought it home. And after that, you talk about oil.
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 12 December 2019 17: 34
                        -2
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        Volodya, stop copying the thoughts of specialists all over the world. 3 years

                        So I was not born yesterday either. And he drank and talked with refugees.
                        Not oil, you say? Just like, she, paskuda. There was an order to bypass the Grozny oil refinery so that not a single bomb fell on it.
                      2. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny 12 December 2019 23: 20
                        -2
                        You don’t hear me. I say that oil was not in the subject? There was probably, but not one. Something like this.
      2. Rastas
        Rastas 11 December 2019 19: 26
        +17
        Yeltsin and Dudaev were worth each other. Both are criminals. Excuse me, what does the Russian population have to do with it? The Russian authorities 3 years before the war did not care about him, as well as the rest of Russia. And then suddenly worried. And, of course, in order to save the Russian population, Grozny was damned. There is no faith in all of this Yeltsin's Pribluda, this Stepashin, Kulikov. Better interview Rokhlin look.
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 11 December 2019 19: 34
          +3
          Quote: Rastas
          Excuse me, what does the Russian population have to do with it?

          Apparently, it may not have to do with you. The question is different. In your opinion, it was necessary to stupidly sit and watch what chaos was going on in the country?
          1. Rastas
            Rastas 11 December 2019 19: 41
            0
            Of course, it was necessary to level Chechnya with the land along with the Russian population. Well, do you seriously believe in bullshit about the constitutional order? And this was said by those who ruined the Union. Rokhlin said that even with Dudaev it was possible to agree by allocating a quota from the pipe to him, as in Tatarstan, and he would become a faithful vassal of Russia.
            1. orionvitt
              orionvitt 11 December 2019 19: 48
              +5
              Quote: Rastas
              Well, do you seriously believe in bullshit about the constitutional order?

              I didn’t even say a word about the constitutional order, I said that it was necessary to do something. How this was done is another question. . And about the Russian population, so it by that time, there was almost no there. Most of those who were simply not cut out were forced to flee, back in the 91st, if not earlier.
              1. Rastas
                Rastas 11 December 2019 19: 54
                0
                A lot remained there. At the father-in-law, my friend and family left from there in June of the 94th only. There were many reports on television, where the interview was mainly given by the Russian population.
                1. orionvitt
                  orionvitt 11 December 2019 19: 57
                  +1
                  Quote: Rastas
                  There was a lot left

                  Many, how much? How much was it?
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                    1. Andrey VOV
                      Andrey VOV 11 December 2019 22: 43
                      +10
                      Who are you calling a cockerel, scoundrel? Lonely old people, grandmothers, grandfathers who have nowhere to go and nothing? Your tongue is not dry? Have you seen the eyes of these people?
                    2. Revival
                      Revival 11 December 2019 23: 57
                      +1
                      Do not talk about what you do not know.
                      In this tone, you can talk about yourself, and not about people whom you do not know.
                    3. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 12 December 2019 03: 05
                      +2
                      Quote: karabass
                      there was a cockerel who agreed to become slaves

                      Well, you and ...
              2. Glory1974
                Glory1974 11 December 2019 20: 17
                +5
                Most of those who were simply not cut out were forced to flee, back in the 91st, if not earlier.

                Most began to flee during and after the war of 94-95. Until recently, people did not believe that such a slaughter was possible.
                According to unofficial data, after 96 years in Chechnya, 40 thousand Russians were killed.
                By the way, the parents of Colonel General Shkirko, the commander of the internal forces, remained in Grozny. In January 95, the special forces were looking for them to get them out, the Dudaevites were looking for them to kill. Ours managed to be quicker. So the situation was ambiguous.
                1. hohkn
                  hohkn 11 December 2019 20: 56
                  +4
                  Quote: glory1974
                  By the way, the parents of Colonel General Shkirko, the commander of the internal forces, remained in Grozny. In January 95, the special forces were looking for them to withdraw, the Dudaevites were looking to kill them. Our team managed to do it faster.

                  A good man was Anatoly Afanasevich. During my urgent, I was a regiment commander. 525 CP.
            2. Glory1974
              Glory1974 11 December 2019 20: 23
              +4
              Rokhlin said that even with Dudaev it was possible to agree by allocating a quota from the pipe to him, as in Tatarstan, and he would become a faithful vassal of Russia.

              Dudaev was non-negotiable. Soon, the Chechens themselves would have thrown him. The fact that the Yeltsin government made many mistakes is true. It was necessary to introduce troops earlier, but the spirit was not enough. They pulled to the last, until there was no other way out.
        2. Glory1974
          Glory1974 11 December 2019 20: 19
          +6
          There is no faith in all of this Yeltsin's Pribluda, this Stepashin, Kulikov. Better interview Rokhlin look

          Kulikov wasn’t noticed in lies. Rokhlin is handsome. I agree about the rest
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  6. Thrifty
    Thrifty 11 December 2019 18: 11
    +7
    And what conclusions did the authorities draw? Will there be a third Chechen war after Putin or Kadyrov left?
  7. Pike
    Pike 11 December 2019 18: 13
    +9
    The war smelled of vengeance almost a year earlier. The army increased the draft. At that time, I was still a citizen of Tajikistan, my friends - the citizens of Azerbaijan (also like me Russians), were recruited in December 93rd. In the spring of the 94th, we rowed everyone, and brought in ulcers, cores, and other patients. Many were commited later ...
    But the fact that there will be a war, for some reason I understood (felt) back in the summer - in the fall of the 93rd. With whom - I did not understand yet, sorted through different options, but did not understand.
    I was lucky to get into the air defense. Although an order for "volunteers" came to our unit in the spring of 95, and out of 10 conscripts, one agreed to go on a "business trip"
    1. Karen
      Karen 11 December 2019 18: 37
      +7
      Quote: Pike
      But the fact that there will be a war, for some reason I understood (felt) back in the summer - in the fall of the 93rd. With whom - I did not understand yet, sorted through different options, but did not understand.

      Especially after the shooting of the White House by the tanks - it was quite clear that the Yeltsinists would need a war ... Like, the war will write everything off ...
      And they also needed a war to divert attention from acts of privatization ...
      And yes ... I emphasized earlier ... There is a video from Grachev's office from December 13, I think, where he is indignant aloud: "What are they doing ?! Tanks are effective in the field, not in the city !!!"
      1. Million
        Million 11 December 2019 20: 00
        +2
        Grachev was still a military general and understood everything. Yeltsin set him up
        1. Karen
          Karen 11 December 2019 20: 20
          -8
          Quote: Million
          Yeltsin and framed him

          What does the Drunk have to do with it? Do you think he was anything in this war (organization) ... The war was made by more serious people representing Zion ... I think that this was all turned out by Evgeny Primakov ... Earlier, he voiced the idea that he was for our liberation of Kirovabad did not allow this (the drunk did not even allow a march to walk around the city), so that Turkey would not get into the Chechen theme too much ...
          -----
          In the Armenian resources there is an interview with Zinevich, where he said that in Karabakh they simply allowed Basayev's detachment (knowing him by his call sign) to leave the encirclement through the corridor provided for the departure of civilians ... And his words: "I should know then .. . nothing would stop us ... "
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  8. alavrin
    alavrin 11 December 2019 18: 14
    +7
    The reason was not only the collapse of the army, but also the collapse of the country. And the position of the media: NTV correspondent Masyuk goes and interviews Shamil Basayev (!), Because she found the official news "boring". (Today, by the way, she was hired to work for RT. She will be filming her crap again).
    1. eagle owl
      eagle owl 11 December 2019 18: 39
      +6
      Ah, Masyuchka ... She got there - she became a star of very funny films
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 11 December 2019 19: 52
      0
      Quote: alavrin
      NTV correspondent Masyuk goes and interviews Shamil Basayev (!)

      He and the Komsomol interviewed. He still walked with the GKChP with a grenade
  9. Labrador
    Labrador 11 December 2019 18: 18
    +19
    Eternal memory to those who gave their lives, who gave their health in this war ...
    The earth is glassy to those dogs that killed and betrayed our guys and just civilians.
  10. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 11 December 2019 18: 25
    0
    You know, I was in Afghanistan ... but I had a dispute (petty) with someone who visited Chechnya ... I almost stabbed him (like him). He called spirits Czechs. I am not against the Czechs, but there are perfumes. I don’t understand a damn thing in today's life.
    1. restless
      restless 11 December 2019 18: 37
      +5
      We called them chicha
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  12. Sky strike fighter
    Sky strike fighter 11 December 2019 18: 46
    +5
    against the Russians "to the last Chechen."

    A familiar slogan. Over time, it has not changed much. Against the Russians until the last Georgian, then to the last Ukrainian, then to the last Syrian. America prefers to fight with the wrong hands.
  13. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 11 December 2019 18: 50
    +7
    The Kingdom of Heaven is for all conscripts of the 18-year-old yellowhorot who have fallen for the interests of Yeltsin’s fleece seven-bankers, led by Boris Berezovsky.
  14. Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert 11 December 2019 18: 59
    +6
    At the end of Zakhar Prilepin's novel Pathology, his unit, almost completely destroyed, leaves Chechnya.
    At the border, a roadside sign "Chechnya" is noticed from under the leaky, punctured awning of the body.
    Screaming drove to stop.
    And for several minutes they shoot a sign from machine guns and machine guns. They are waiting for him to fall.
    But he does not fall.
    Then they dig it out, throw it on the ground, stomp its feet ...
    An unfamiliar colonel comes running, begins to bliss, wave his hands. They pounce on him with fists and he runs away to complain.
    I look at the sign in the photo at the beginning of the article and think: "maybe this one"?
    No - not this one. It was just that at that time for any of our soldiers the signs with the inscription "Chechnya" were signs of grief, losses and tears ...
  15. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 11 December 2019 18: 59
    -4
    Quote: Thrifty
    And what conclusions did the authorities draw? Will there be a third Chechen war after Putin or Kadyrov left?

    I am convinced that he will not. The people of Chechnya understood that to be part of Russia is to build mosques. This is work. It is to have housing, food, guaranteed to have health care and a future. Nobody forbids, respects local customs. No one begins blood feud. Remember the horrors of war, and compare with the world today. A referendum was held in this republic. The result speaks for itself. I do not think that there these results were squeezed out by threats. This is not such a people.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 11 December 2019 19: 39
      +21
      Quote: Vkd dvk
      The people of Chechnya understood that to be part of Russia is to build mosques. This is work. It is to have housing, food, guaranteed to have health care and a future.

      Until Allah Vladimirovich gives money. Big money that other regions never dreamed of. Put the Chechen Republic on funding comparable to the Russian regions, you will see how they will "build mosques" and "work". Financial relations between Chechnya and the Center are more like the payment of reparations or tribute. Victor, are you really that naive? or at work?
      1. herev15
        herev15 11 December 2019 22: 21
        0
        So for reference, the head of Chechnya, near Jerusalem in Abu Ghosh, rebuffed the mosque. Well, you are for it, so why not. You have to pay tribute because otherwise you will be at war all the time, it will be more expensive, and why do you need it?
      2. Kazbek
        Kazbek 12 December 2019 00: 24
        0
        The amounts of subsidies are large, but Chechnya is not in the first place. Here are the data for 2018. Chechnya is in fifth place.
        https://www.rbc.ru/economics/11/10/2017/59db751d9a794738f67da77e
        1. Revival
          Revival 12 December 2019 00: 50
          +2
          Not indicative.
          1. Dagestan, the situation is not very different.
          2. Compare territory and population and divide
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 11 December 2019 19: 47
      +12
      Quote: Vkd dvk
      A referendum was held in this republic.

      Yes, and the turnout for Putin in the elections was 100%. wink
      In addition to the largest mosques in Europe, there are roads of European standards, skyscrapers, schools, and much more. For federal money. And in the hinterland of Russia, hospitals are closed, they have been waiting for years when they finally get gas, and they collect money for children for operations.
      Of course, we live in different countries. Not for this our boys perished, oh not for that.
      1. eagle owl
        eagle owl 11 December 2019 20: 53
        -4
        Russia has always developed the outskirts at the expense of the center. Is this good or bad? Good! When the outskirts live normally - and there is money in the center. And when only the center lives well. That was exactly in the 90s - all the country's money was spinning ONLY in Moscow, so crap is that, in fact, Moscow lived a CRUCH! Well, a hundred fat bankers and tens of thousands of brokers and Mavrodey were fat. And the rest with cancer in the beds of vegetable marrows for the winter, so as not to die of hunger
        1. Revival
          Revival 12 December 2019 01: 05
          0
          It’s not good to develop the outskirts at the expense of the center!
          Outskirts developed.
          About the results here in the article, in particular.
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 12 December 2019 03: 20
          0
          Quote: Uhu
          ONLY in Moscow, so crap is that, in fact, Moscow lived a CRUCH! Well, a hundred fat bankers and tens of thousands of brokers and Mavrodey were fat. And the rest with cancer in the beds of vegetable marrows for the winter, so as not to die of hunger

          Faq Is it because of the zucchini we go there?
    3. Million
      Million 11 December 2019 20: 02
      +7
      As for "working", you got excited ...
    4. Irina
      Irina 11 December 2019 21: 29
      -8
      God grant! But the feeling is ripening that as long as Putin is there, there is Russia. What will happen then - who knows .. It’s not calm somehow.
    5. Sadam
      Sadam 11 December 2019 21: 58
      +5
      I think so far they are kept in hedgehogs and paid to Kolyma they are peaceful heroes of Russia. how will the conjuncture change again, the members will be cut off and the eyes will be pulled out with a spoon. I do not believe that in one generation such a migration of souls. the beast ...
    6. Revival
      Revival 12 December 2019 00: 47
      0
      It is naive. Very naive.
      But let's hope
    7. Revival
      Revival 12 December 2019 01: 06
      +1
      Are you serious about the referendum?
  16. seacap
    seacap 11 December 2019 19: 08
    +6
    Quote: Andrey VOV
    I will clarify a little ... if in abbreviated form, then the First War was called by officials as "Guidance and restoration of constitutional order"

    As well as connections with a similar name, "combat" were not counted in the pay, as well as the term of service, only business trips "field" were paid, as in the field exit.
  17. Starper-xnumx
    Starper-xnumx 11 December 2019 19: 11
    +16
    Forgive us boys who were killed, crippled Eternal memory of the soldiers of Russia! .. They threw YOU into the heat of the collapse of Russia and "NASHI's media" showed how they kill you and how demonic neoliberals around the world were anti-Russian ....
    But you were betrayed and betrayed, you turned into a product at that time ..
    Well, we all remember nothing and avenged you well, but not completely yet ... soldier
    1. VeteranVSSSR
      VeteranVSSSR 11 December 2019 20: 27
      +4
      Eh, three sevens, allow me to correct the last paragraph?
      -Well, we remember everything and nothing, and NEVER forget ..... (hereinafter)
      Land in peace for soldiers ...
  18. anjey
    anjey 11 December 2019 19: 28
    +6
    Ebe-n in the damp earth together with Rook and Gorbi labeled is still alive, so that this fat face will be judged, it was he, the bald hoop, who launched the destructive processes.
  19. Shock.
    Shock. 11 December 2019 19: 39
    +5
    Eternal memory to the soldiers who fell in battles with bandits!
    If not for them, who knows, maybe there would be no country today?
  20. Horst78
    Horst78 11 December 2019 19: 45
    +4
    In January 1995. after school holidays (grade 11) Our class teacher (in Russian language and literature) walked around the office for a long time and could not start the lesson. Then she stopped and said, “I don’t know how to feel about“ this war. ”After all, my maiden name is“ Dudueva. ”“ It's scary to think what was happening to her in her soul. But we were released from school as "normal". Someone managed to serve in the "first" (even with two business trips)
  21. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 11 December 2019 20: 16
    -1
    Quote: Karabin
    Quote: Vkd dvk
    The people of Chechnya understood that to be part of Russia is to build mosques. This is work. It is to have housing, food, guaranteed to have health care and a future.

    Until Allah Vladimirovich gives money. Big money that other regions never dreamed of. Put the Chechen Republic on funding comparable to the Russian regions, you will see how they will "build mosques" and "work". Financial relations between Chechnya and the Center are more like the payment of reparations or tribute. Victor, are you really that naive? or at work?

    And you put MOSCOW on the usual financing. PETERSBURG. How are these entities more deserved than the ones destroyed by the war in Chechnya? They are no longer Russian citizens, and let them disentangle themselves? Do not, believe me. A couple of thousand boys sent to the Saudis and here you are, the blown up metro, new thousands of corpses in distant and not very distant Russian cities. Ready to separate Tataria, Bashkiria .... Bubbling DAGESTAN. On the same ground of fundamental Wahhabism. You don’t know how many priests - the mullah died in the center of Russia from bandit knives? IT NOT to notice and forgive? My family and I fled from Dushanbe in 1990. He lived there for only 7 years, moved from Siberia on the recommendation of doctors, to change the climate for his wife. in 1983. So, national affairs are a delicate matter and are not subject to regulation on the Internet between absolutely damn shustrikas. Of course, destroy, and, preferably, much earlier. And restore the destroyed. Destroyed inevitably, war is war. Or do you want penguins to shit, like they shit in Vietnam, and to the bushes?
    I’m not happy, sorry, I can’t express how sorry both ours and the Chechens are. They were the first to fall victim to the fundamentalists. Khattaba and other bastards. It’s a pity your soul does not hurt.
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 11 December 2019 20: 41
      0
      Your words to everyone would be in the soul hi
    2. dmmyak40
      dmmyak40 11 December 2019 22: 18
      +9
      And who slaughtered Russians, Armenians, Greeks in Chechnya? Admiral Kruzenshtern? I remember everything perfectly in the 90s: every day on the radio or someone said: an attack on shepherds, a flock to Chechnya, an attack on UAZ cops, robbery of a store on the border with Chechnya? Did the Saudis do this? Jordanians? Mercenaries? Do not carry nonsense. This was done by those Chechens whom you are so sorry. They felt impunity and began to do what they had in their blood - to kill and rob.
      And I am sorry for my friend auto mechanic, Yuru Voskanyan, who managed to dump almost empty-handed from Grozny at his last Moskvich at the very last moment. Or Ruslan’s lifeguard from my Ministry of Emergency Situations. Which came from Chechnya with the Order of Courage, scars and a half-gray head.
    3. Revival
      Revival 12 December 2019 00: 58
      +1
      That is, one method to appease and persuade?
      No more options?
      And if everything is small and small? All dead end!
      Any problem can be solved reliably and in different ways.
  22. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 11 December 2019 20: 27
    -2
    Quote: Million
    As for "working", you got excited ...

    And who made it possible for these people to survive in these harsh conditions? Hundreds of years, not one hundred. It was you who built everything there, or yourself, pulling stones out of the gardens and sowing bread. Building houses from these stones, sheds, raising livestock in conditions in which you never dreamed. Where there is no grass, where there is no firewood, where there is nothing? Do you judge by scum riding in expensive cars on the streets of Moscow? And who is stopping you from starting the business that IM allows you to have such cars? Take it. Report the results here.
    1. Slavs
      Slavs 12 December 2019 01: 29
      +3
      Quote: Vkd dvk
      And who made it possible for these people to survive in these harsh conditions?

      Russian Empire, USSR, RF.
      Quote: Vkd dvk
      That you built everything there

      Who do you think built Grozny?
      Quote: Vkd dvk
      And who is stopping you from starting the business that IM allows you to have such cars

      Not "who", but "what. The Criminal Code of the Russian Federation is in the way.
  23. Glory1974
    Glory1974 11 December 2019 20: 32
    +2
    Our generals overwhelmed the matter. Many parts of the Ministry of Defense were introduced into Chechnya without any live ammunition at all. How could the operation be prepared like this!
    As in the year 41, after bloody battles, soldiers and officers awoke a genetic memory.
    as it should, and according to Maskhadov himself, by the spring of 95 they won a complete victory in the mountainous part of Chechnya, despite the fact that they were opposed by the international terrorist international.
    Good memory to the dead guys! On the monument in our division after the 1st war, 273 surnames.
  24. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 11 December 2019 20: 45
    +1
    Quote: glory1974
    Our generals overwhelmed the matter. Many parts of the Ministry of Defense were introduced into Chechnya without any live ammunition at all. How could the operation be prepared like this!
    As in the year 41, after bloody battles, soldiers and officers awoke a genetic memory.
    as it should, and according to Maskhadov himself, by the spring of 95 they won a complete victory in the mountainous part of Chechnya, despite the fact that they were opposed by the international terrorist international.
    Good memory to the dead guys! On the monument in our division after the 1st war, 273 surnames.

    Well-trained on the laws of reports, bravura cod, parquet servility. , in the name of everything, even to the detriment of the cause. And how many corrupt creatures selling weapons, ammunition, other military secrets?
  25. seacap
    seacap 11 December 2019 22: 01
    +2
    Quote: glory1974
    Our generals overwhelmed the matter. Many parts of the Ministry of Defense were introduced into Chechnya without any live ammunition at all. How could the operation be prepared like this!

    There is no need to distort and PR here, to put it mildly, there is no need to lie, why are you trying to pump up the negative here? The battalions were staffed with personnel and weapons, ammunition without restriction. Errors and miscalculations, yes, the lack of intelligence data, calculations, and most importantly, the complete lack of experience of middle and senior commanders who served in internal "calm" districts and prepared their whole life for another war. And most importantly, the devastation of the country, which also affected the army as a unit of his people, and at that time spat upon and discredited by all the media and the authorities.
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 12 December 2019 10: 46
      -1
      how was this equipment..with a pine world, prefabricated hodgepodge..yes, there were plenty of cartridges, just didn’t know how to shoot, we studied in the process .. I threw a combat grenade for the first time there ... everything is right right now done...
  26. Sadam
    Sadam 11 December 2019 22: 21
    0
    guys go to youtube remember remember memory
  27. TARS_LOL
    TARS_LOL 11 December 2019 22: 39
    -2
    Quote: Orkraider
    Silence ... I grieve for all the fallen there. Remember. Mourn
    And I remember everyone who helped our enemies! I can’t forgive neither Georgians nor Ukrainians for those times. My bros were filmed by mercenaries who went to Georgia and it was impossible to pursue beyond the border. I remember everything well. And the cries from abroad glorifying the "rebels" .. since then I have ceased to believe in the West and became a fierce patriot.

    Did Georgians and Ukrainians do the same, handed over with gratis and sent for slaughter the soldiers of the Russian army? Or did you intentionally miss the fact that the main killers were at the very top?
    1. Slavs
      Slavs 12 December 2019 01: 32
      +2
      Quote: TARS_LOL
      Did Georgians and Ukrainians do the same, handed over with gratis and sent for slaughter the soldiers of the Russian army?

      No. They killed soldiers of the Russian army.
  28. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 11 December 2019 23: 39
    +2
    For the third year now I've been listening to a series of programs about the 1917 revolution and the subsequent civil war. Short programs, about what happened on the same day 100 years ago. I compare it with what I remember and then I read about the events of the period of the collapse of the USSR. The logic of the development of events is the same as the types born of these events.
    And he came to the conclusion that this war could not fail. And with the state of the country as in '94, it could not go otherwise than it was. Because part of the system (army) cannot be in a different qualitative state than the whole system (state). And we are all lucky that the civil war did not happen on the same scale as it was a century ago. And only one Dudaev appeared on the territory of modern Russia, and not a whole galaxy: Wrangel, Denikin, Makhno, Ungern, Petlyura, Yudenich, Kornilov.
    But the prerequisites for this were very serious both in crushing and in the civil war - the events of 1993. And the names of Rutskoi, Makashov ....
    These events must be remembered, reminded and told. Especially to our non-systemic revolutionaries born in the zeros.
    And even more so the authorities.
  29. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 11 December 2019 23: 50
    +1
    Quote: dmmyak40
    And who slaughtered Russians, Armenians, Greeks in Chechnya? Admiral Kruzenshtern? I remember everything perfectly in the 90s: every day on the radio or someone said: an attack on shepherds, a flock to Chechnya, an attack on UAZ cops, robbery of a store on the border with Chechnya? Did the Saudis do this? Jordanians? Mercenaries? Do not carry nonsense. This was done by those Chechens whom you are so sorry. They felt impunity and began to do what they had in their blood - to kill and rob.
    And I am sorry for my friend auto mechanic, Yuru Voskanyan, who managed to dump almost empty-handed from Grozny at his last Moskvich at the very last moment. Or Ruslan’s lifeguard from my Ministry of Emergency Situations. Which came from Chechnya with the Order of Courage, scars and a half-gray head.

    Did I say that there was no need to restore order? I answered the condemning Yeltsin for the war. LATE he started. And he did not prepare the army for this.
    It was necessary to judge him not for the beginning, but for the late beginning. False advice notes, money dragged from the banks of Russia by trains. Banditry on the road. How many hostages were taken and taken to the mountains? Intervene earlier, many issues would be resolved more bloodless. Until so many bastards from around the world flocked to Chechnya.
  30. storm
    storm 12 December 2019 00: 16
    +2
    The war, which initially had to be waged according to the "Iraqi" scenario with the help of bombers destroying the bases of militants and targeted actions of special forces to clean up the remnants of terrorists ...
    1. Slavs
      Slavs 12 December 2019 01: 45
      +1
      Quote: assault
      with the help of bombers destroying militant bases

      In 94? Ie immediately to dismantle Grozny with a peace? Each village was a base ...
      Quote: assault
      spot actions of special forces to clean up the remains of terrorists ....

      The united group until the summer of 94 took control of the territory ... But there is still enough work to clean up .... True in Dagestan ...
  31. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 12 December 2019 01: 25
    0
    Quote: assault
    The war, which initially had to be waged according to the "Iraqi" scenario with the help of bombers destroying the bases of militants and targeted actions of special forces to clean up the remnants of terrorists ...

    I don’t think you are right. Base in the mountains, with a small number of cadets. The main formations in the cities. Otherwise, how did it happen that such a group broke up about Grozny if the militants, according to your statement, should be in the mountains? No intelligence. Destroyed KGB infrastructure in Chechnya. The GRU, by its function, did not have its own agents there. She is a specialist in military intelligence abroad. A strong influence, characteristic of nationality, of the elderly on the young. Which was easy to intimidate, taking relatives hostage at the base of the bandits. No help to the Russian military by the local population.
    War in the mountains, and even with their own citizens, when NOTHING IS ANYTHING. With brave guys, real warriors, putting civilians ahead of them. Any mistake immediately increases the number of supporters of bandits. Remember the story with Budanov.
  32. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 12 December 2019 01: 35
    0
    Quote: Kazbek
    The amounts of subsidies are large, but Chechnya is not in the first place. Here are the data for 2018. Chechnya is in fifth place.
    https://www.rbc.ru/economics/11/10/2017/59db751d9a794738f67da77e

    Yes, there are already comments saying that one must also take into account the population. And let such tables exist in different interpretations. Nearby. And let one explain and complement the others.
    I think that with a change in the situation, and an increase in the welfare of Chechnya, the size of subsidies will decrease.
    A people who consider themselves to be real people cannot sit on the neck of the state. We will restore together cities, mosques, infrastructure, and then, let's work, brothers. (As said
    Magomed Nurbagandov, Kingdom of Heaven to his soul).
  33. Slavs
    Slavs 12 December 2019 01: 48
    +3
    The blessed memory of the fallen ... A bow to the earth alive ...
  34. seacap
    seacap 12 December 2019 13: 00
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    Quote: Andrey VOV
    how was this equipment

    According to the OSCE "order", we had no right to move units larger than a battalion across our territory. Commanders who really imagined what awaited their subordinates, those who went through it themselves, and did not receive stars for their ability to bow and bow, as well as for the ability to organize a meeting of commissions and inspections, as, for example, in the same Maykop brigade ( military mafia), those commanders like ours, a month before these events, drove us to the range in full force from 4 am to 24, cleaning weapons and maintenance of equipment, and again, seven days a week and holidays. Bikes about unintentional recruits, too leave it for personal use, the consolidated battalion was formed by the rank and file on a voluntary contract basis, moreover, from among the rank and file who served at least a year in this position, in the presence of a letter certified by the military commissar at the place of conscription with permission from the parents (guardians). After that, more than one combat review and conversations of commanders were held, where there was an opportunity to refuse. Tired of listening to this nonsense, originating from various so-called. committees of soldiers' mothers whose members, the loudest screaming then, did not have a single son, but they saw and built their "future" for overseas grants in the state, whose interests were so zealously defended. If you did not "shoot and throw grenades", then according to your regular position, this was not necessary.
  35. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 12 December 2019 17: 02
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    2500-2700? 25-27 thousand do not want? In the second order, 80 thousand were ground. Everyone was there: Chechens, Arabs, Negroes, Ukrainians ...