Sohu: Testing C-400 radars at F-16 Turkey "tugging an American tiger's mustache"

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Chinese military experts commented on Turkey’s decision to ignore US threats related to the purchase and deployment of C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems. In the Chinese edition of Sohu, using a saying, they note that Ankara, by testing the C-400 air defense radars on the F-16 and F-4 fighters (quote), "pulled the American tiger's mustache."

The publication appreciated the determination of the Turkish authorities, noting that they are few of the authorities of NATO countries that are not afraid to speak openly about protecting their national interests to US military and officials.



From the material:

The United States has repeatedly warned of the consequences, they constantly threatened. But the Turkish leader challenged the Americans.

It is alleged that Turkey decided to test the S-400 radars, which (the tests) were "even much more complicated than Russia had proposed." The material says that S-400 radars were also tested in a helicopter. With this means aviation tried to use the capabilities of electronic interference against the S-400, but to no avail.

From the article:

This suggests that Turkey is determined. And after the refusal of the Americans to deliver them the F-35, such determination becomes even more tangible.

It goes on to say that the biggest challenge for Turkey could be an attempt to integrate the Russian Tri-S-400 air defense systems into a single NATO air defense system - "in the United States, new attempts can be made to counter this."
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  1. -2
    11 December 2019 11: 22
    Well, the US Erdogan pulled his mustache, laughing and why would he pull NATO, what introducing the S-400 into the common air defense system !?
    1. +4
      11 December 2019 11: 27
      For Faberge ...
    2. +3
      11 December 2019 12: 03
      Will they give us the results? Even if they drag a tiger with a hook, the main thing is to find out the parameters.
      1. +9
        11 December 2019 12: 42
        I think that most of the parameters obtained by the Turks, we already have from Syria. And not only in F-16, F-4, but also in stealth. All measured, and entered into the relevant data archives.
        1. +2
          11 December 2019 13: 54
          Something happened when the Syrian aircraft pulled fu22 on our radars
        2. +1
          11 December 2019 23: 23
          From here, I, couch general, I think that you are wrong, regarding penguins. The mattresses themselves said that penguins in Syria flew with an additional canopy, which significantly increased their signatures. But I may be wrong, maybe our equipment, through additional awnings, considered what was required? request
      2. +2
        11 December 2019 14: 47
        Quote: Civil
        Will they give us the results? Even if they drag a tiger with a hook, the main thing is to find out the parameters.

        It seems that our specialists were present during these tests or, moreover, were managing the complexes at that moment.
      3. +2
        11 December 2019 19: 25
        In Russia there is a special scientific institute where all stations are tested. And they know the radar signature of the F-16 perfectly well. So the Turks "amused themselves" for themselves.
    3. +4
      11 December 2019 12: 03
      In the Chinese edition of Sohu ...

      To make it clear - Sohu is the Chinese analogue of Yandex Zen .... with the same "military experts" ... Whoever comes to mind, then writes ...
      1. +3
        11 December 2019 13: 23
        Quote: Nasr
        In the Chinese edition of Sohu ...

        To make it clear - Sohu is the Chinese analogue of Yandex Zen .... with the same "military experts" ... Whoever comes to mind, then writes ...

        The Chinese themselves in January 2019 carried out tests of the S-400, shooting down at a maximum distance two targets moving at a speed of 600 m.v sec. Two targets, two missiles. Therefore, they have a fake interest in the Turkish trials. The Turks did not conduct practical shooting, but they crawled out all the airspace around in order to search for the dead zone. Not found. And who voiced, in my opinion, is secondary, if the test results are confirmed at the official level.
        1. +2
          11 December 2019 13: 43
          I gave information on Sohu ... so that the comrades had an idea of ​​what this publication was like ... The administrators of the VO site began to often post articles from this resource ... Each draws its own conclusions.
          Good luck! ...
          Say, the admins of VO never cite the articles of the official Chinese publication Renmin Ribao ...
          1. +1
            11 December 2019 15: 27
            Evlampy Spiridonovichmaybe you fill this gap?
          2. 0
            11 December 2019 21: 52
            Excuse me, who is it?
        2. -2
          11 December 2019 13: 55
          If there were no dead zones, then the c400 would not require cover with the help of Tor, etc.
          1. +2
            11 December 2019 14: 18
            Quote: Stalllker
            If there were no dead zones, then the c400 would not require cover with the help of Tor, etc.

            They did not find, and hence the conclusion that the test results exceeded expectations. Building a layered defense defense is normal practice. Thor also serves as a positional cover in case of massive use of enemy missiles. Yes, and he will have cheaper rockets than the S-400 fend off. The military economy also knows how to count.
          2. +1
            11 December 2019 15: 28
            Cover is more needed with misses, Stalllker , I think.
          3. 0
            11 December 2019 15: 38
            I wonder how you will be a rocket weighing from 400 kg to 1900 kg to shoot at small targets.
        3. 0
          11 December 2019 14: 45
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          The Turks didn’t carry out practical shooting,

          Not a single air defense system arrives to the customer, no matter who it is our army or foreigners, without firing it at the firing range. Moreover, the shooters carry out calculations which will serve this air defense system in the future.
          Turks were shooting
          1. 0
            11 December 2019 15: 56
            Quote: YOUR
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            The Turks didn’t carry out practical shooting,

            Not a single air defense system arrives to the customer, no matter who it is our army or foreigners, without firing it at the firing range. Moreover, the shooters carry out calculations which will serve this air defense system in the future.
            Turks were shooting
            If they fired, their planes and the helicopter participating in the testing of the system landed not where they took off, but where their "hello" from the S-400 was overtaken. Perhaps somewhere at the test site the Turks were shown demonstration launches, but not this time.
            1. 0
              12 December 2019 02: 58
              Check the shooting weapons at the ranges. They shoot and test at the Kapustin Yar training ground. All without exception.
        4. -4
          11 December 2019 16: 49
          Due to the curvature of the earth’s surface, the c400 does not see beyond its own nose; therefore, cruise missiles cannot be reached. From 400 one benefit it can be turned into scrap metal for good money and buy firewood for Russian grandmothers so that they reach the summer. No article in sohu
          1. +1
            11 December 2019 16: 58
            Quote: Check Z
            Due to the curvature of the earth’s surface, the c400 does not see beyond its own nose; therefore, cruise missiles cannot be reached. From 400 one benefit it can be turned into scrap metal for good money and buy firewood for Russian grandmothers so that they reach the summer. No article in sohu

            Yeah. So that's why the mattresses squeal like frightened pigs, and threaten with sanctions all those who want to buy "scrap metal" !!! Thanks, enlightened. fool
            1. -3
              11 December 2019 17: 14
              This is all theory, in practice, an avionic comes to the Syrian coast and launches rockets while the c400 sees the tenth dream, and when it wakes up if it is not the target of the missiles around then everything is destroyed. This was a year ago, so there is no need for illusions. Everything in this world is relative.
      2. +1
        11 December 2019 14: 39
        After the air defense system is put in position, it is circled. What are the real goals of the Turks will train the calculations of the air defense systems and specify the affected area, they have no other aircraft.
      3. +1
        11 December 2019 15: 10
        Quote: Nasr

        That would be clear - Sohu is a Chinese analogue of Yandex ze

        worse!!!
        The National Interest and Dave Majumdar = just samples of encyclopedia
        Quote: author
        Sohu: Testing C-400 radars at F-16 Turkey "tugging an American tiger's mustache"

        there is no such article in this garbage bin

        the author sucked out of his finger (probably wants to distract the electorate from pension reform belay )

        and the igers are not there, the more military
        1. -2
          11 December 2019 15: 58
          And you were looking well, you are just a troll, and where does the pension reform, uncle. She already held the topic closed
          1. +1
            11 December 2019 16: 13
            Quote: Eduard Egorov
            And you were looking well

            Edik !! prize in the studio show the article then in Sohu!
            Quote: Author
            Sohu: Testing S-400 radars on F-16 Turkey "pulled an American tiger's mustache"

            and discussion of military iksperds sohu of this topic?
            Or weak?
            Quote: Eduard Egorov
            you are just a troll

            Why does the interlocutor, who has nothing to say, become personal: like "you troll"? Is it self-defense or stupidity?

            Quote: Eduard Egorov
            She already held the topic closed

            fool
            The transitional period of the pension reform started on January 1, 2019 and will end in 2028.

            Government intends to discuss pension formula transformation with 2025 yearssaid Tatyana Golikova.
            Pension calculation system in Russia will be modernized after 2025, said Deputy Prime Minister Tatyana Golikova. The “point” pension formula will be maintained over the next six years

            Eddie ... you are not the case with the eyebrows in expensive clothes for several million rubles?
            or granddaughter?
  2. 0
    11 December 2019 11: 26
    It goes on to say that the biggest challenge for Turkey could be an attempt to integrate the Russian Tri-S-400 air defense systems into a single NATO air defense system - "in the United States, new attempts can be made to counter this."

    In fact, nothing false ... any whim for your money.
  3. 0
    11 December 2019 11: 27
    "Pulled the American tiger for a mustache" Pleased enough wonder how it all ends? The tiger is not paper.
    1. -1
      11 December 2019 11: 42
      Quote: Sergey 23
      The tiger is not paper ...

      Cardboard.
      This "tiger" has already tried to kill Erdogan.
      In addition to death from the Americans, there is nothing to expect.
      Isn't it easier to send such "tigers"?
      You need to stay away from such "partners" having a reliable defense at hand.

      Why are you so referring to the Americans? request
      1. 0
        11 December 2019 14: 14
        The question in my comment was rhetorical. YOU didn't need to answer it, and even more so, you didn't need to be rude. Are you so fearsome? And here is your quote (addressed to me) himself "s.sy.teste" in front of the moderator !!?
  4. +1
    11 December 2019 11: 37
    In order to introduce the S-400 into the common NATO air defense system, it is necessary to assemble TOGETHER of Russian and NATO developers
    1. +1
      11 December 2019 17: 25
      It is enough to know the exchange protocols with the time diagram ...
      But NATO should not allow introducing into the NATO system under any pretext - it will be an autobahn for Russian hackers. laughing
  5. +1
    11 December 2019 11: 37
    The material says that the S-400 radars were also tested in a helicopter

    Now the pro-American conspirators will think (many times) whether it is worthwhile to bombard the residence of Erdogan from a helicopter.
  6. +4
    11 December 2019 11: 39
    But the Turkish leader challenged the Americans.
    It's just that Erdogan once ran to ask for help from NATO, but they turned away and pretended not to hear. Therefore, he, like no one else, understands that "the salvation of the drowning is the work of the drowning themselves."
    1. 0
      11 December 2019 12: 07
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Erdogan just once ran to ask for help from NATO

      Yeah ....
      But there everything was even more unsightly. Erdogan asked to sell. However, he was refused
      And only then was "Operation Active Fence" discontinued, terminated by a strange coincidence before the putsch. Despite all the requests of the Turkish side
  7. 0
    11 December 2019 11: 48
    Turkey "pulled an American tiger for a mustache"

    He tugs at their eggs, and soon they will fall off, as Uncle Sem ages and his methods become too stereotyped! laughing
    1. +1
      11 December 2019 12: 09
      There is nothing to pull there, they left them in Vietnam and Turkey confirmed this empirically.
  8. +3
    11 December 2019 11: 49
    Everything that destroys uniformity in NATO, whether it be weapons, principles, strategy, thinking, is to our advantage.
  9. +3
    11 December 2019 11: 54
    "The biggest test for Turkey may be an attempt to integrate the Russian S-400 Triumph air defense systems into a single NATO air defense system.", - exactly the opposite: the biggest failure of NATO will be the successful penetration of hackers of the Russian Defense Ministry into the automated air defense system of NATO after the Turks pass us the specification of the software interface of this system for interfacing with the S-400 air defense system bully
  10. 0
    11 December 2019 12: 09
    “The US has repeatedly warned of the consequences, they constantly threatened. But the Turkish leader has challenged the Americans. ”

    Well, what are the consequences, but almost none, f 35 will not give, there are others, they will not remain without airplanes.
    Still a couple of such countries, mattresses would understand their place. It is a pity that they forced the rest to grovel in front of themselves.
  11. 0
    11 December 2019 13: 09
    In response from the American "Sherkhan" neither WOW nor MNA.
    The teeth, however, are no longer loose.
    1. -2
      11 December 2019 15: 24
      Quote: prior
      In response from the American "Sherkhan" neither WOW nor MNA.
      The teeth, however, are no longer loose.


      archival opinion. Well, the fact that the lyre failed 40% is trivia
      1. +1
        11 December 2019 17: 40
        Ну и что?
        1. Not the first time, this has already happened.
        2. The Turkish economy has a more balanced base than ours - they will get out.
        1. 0
          11 December 2019 18: 40
          if you cut off your salary by 40% - will it be easy to get out?

          and yes. sanctions against Turkey have not really been applied. it is, only a promise ..
  12. 0
    11 December 2019 13: 27
    Why would Turkey integrate the S400 into NATO's overall air defense system? Ideally, for Turkey to have two air defense systems in general, one is integrated into NATO, the other, respectively, is not integrated, separate. This will allow us to protect ourselves from both NATO and Russian partners. But, the "Americans" will now resist and the "Patriots" will not sell them, it seems to me. By the way, in the color of attacks on the Saudi oil refinery and the complete silence of the Patriots' air defense, a funny situation may develop: we do not sell the F35, because we are afraid that the Turks will see that it is visible for the S400, but we do not sell the Patriot because we are afraid that Turks will see that "Patriot" is not much blind, so he just does not see F35 laughing this is precisely the opinion that may develop.
  13. -4
    11 December 2019 16: 17
    Something half a year ago when an Israeli f-16 bombed Syrian objects, such a fu stood on your 400 that he was frightened and shot down his reconnaissance aircraft. And then about the mustache they began to say this is probably the wet dreams of Shoigu or putler.
  14. 0
    11 December 2019 16: 37
    Not in vain the USA is directly hysterical of deliveries .. For this it was calculated in Russia! Nato bursts at the seams, which is what we needed .. But all the work is still ahead.
  15. +1
    11 December 2019 21: 22
    Quote: check Z
    This is all theory, in practice, an aircraft carrier comes to the Syrian coast and launches missiles ....
    Receives reciprocal lyuley and drowns, drowns and drowns. crying
  16. 0
    12 December 2019 00: 59
    Quote: Check Z
    Due to the curvature of the earth’s surface, the c400 does not see beyond its own nose; therefore, it cannot get winged missiles.

    All-height detector included in the Turkish S-400E

    TX radar 96L6E-1E

    Wavelength ranges:
    - centimeter

    Range detection of air targets:
    - sector mode - up to 400 km
    - circular mode - 5-300 km
    Sector Review:
    - all-height detection - in azimuth 360 degrees., elevation - 0-20 degrees.
    - sector detection - in azimuth of 120 degrees. elevation angle - 0-60 degrees.
    - low-altitude detection - in azimuth 360 deg., elevation - 0-1,5 deg.
    Goal speeds:
    - all-height detection - 30-1200 m / s
    - sector detection - 30-2800 m / s
    - low altitude detection - 30-1200 m / s
    The number of tracks followed simultaneously - 100