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Turkey ready to send army to help Libyan government

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Turkey ready to send army to help Libyan government

Turkey can send its armed forces to Libya to assist the legitimate government of the country located in Tripoli. This was stated by Turkish President Tayyip Recep Erdogan.


The Turkish leader did not rule out the sending of the Turkish military to Libya at the request of the government of this country. In late November, Erdogan and the head of the PNS (Government of National Accord) Fayez Sarraj signed memorandums of cooperation in the military sphere and of mutual understanding on maritime zones.

If such a proposal (about sending the Turkish military to Libya - approx.) Comes from the Libyan people and the leadership, we will have the right ... The UN has introduced a ban on the sale weapons Libya. However, the sending of the military to Libya cannot be regarded within its framework. If such an invitation is received, Turkey itself will decide, it will not ask anyone for permission

Erdogan said, adding that Turkey "is ready to provide any support to Libya."

There is a dual power in Libya at present: in the east of the country there is a parliament elected by the people, in the west - a government of national accord (PNS), supported by the UN and the EU. The Libyan national army of Khalifa Haftar, supported by parliament, has been attacking Tripoli since April, where the PNS has settled. It was previously reported more than once that the PNS is supported by Turkey, Turkish-made military equipment was seen in service with tribes and military units fighting on the side of the government. Parliament and the LNA, in turn, support the UAE, Egypt, and a number of other Arab states.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 10 December 2019 13: 19
    +9
    Erdogan walks wide, will the trousers stand?
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 10 December 2019 13: 25
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      Erdogan walks wide, will the trousers stand?

      The Sultan decided to enter into direct confrontation with the Saudis, the UAE, Egypt and others like them (under the auspices of the mattresses)? However, he overestimates his military genius! yes
      1. svp67
        svp67 10 December 2019 13: 26
        +11
        Quote: Hunter 2
        The Sultan decided to enter into direct confrontation with the Saudis, the UAE, Egypt and others like them

        And doesn’t he enter against the position of Russia there too?
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 10 December 2019 13: 43
          +4
          As far as I know, Bogdanov. M - Deputy Foreign Minister - Haftar conveyed Russia's wish for the establishment of a peaceful dialogue and the cessation of hostilities! hi
          Well, how is it really - the question !?
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 10 December 2019 19: 14
            +2
            Quote: Hunter 2

            The Sultan decided to enter into direct confrontation with the Saudis, the UAE, Egypt and others like them

            If he tries to restore order in Libya, then his main opponent is Israel.
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 10 December 2019 17: 21
          +3
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Hunter 2
          The Sultan decided to enter into direct confrontation with the Saudis, the UAE, Egypt and others like them

          And doesn’t he enter against the position of Russia there too?

          Performs. Russia and France are tacitly on the side of Haftar. Not entirely clear about the Turkish interest in supporting the government of national accord? If this is oil, which is controlled by the PNS, then the Americans, British and Italians had their eyes on this pie, and even if Haftar was defeated, the Turks would get little from this pie. Even if Edik and Saraji had a get-together during which the latter promised Edik what it's a share, not the fact that Americans will want to share. In the event of Haftar's victory, this pie will be cut in a new way and the Turks would not hurt to take this fact into account in order to play along with the Haftarists, who currently control most of Libya and are not strongly influenced by mattresses. And it so can happen that having entered Libya "well", the Turks can get a surge of Kurdish activity along the entire border of Iraq and Syria with internal "reeling of the Turkish pipe" by the PKK forces at home, and this is a war on two fronts. Will it pull?
          1. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 10 December 2019 19: 39
            +2
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip8EZTvBkaI С 12 минуты на этом видео есть информация по карте о положении в Ливии.Розовый свет зоны контроля Сараджа,зеленый свет у Хафтара.Ливия пустыня,потому такая карта)
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 10 December 2019 19: 55
              +3
              Quote: Oquzyurd
              From 12 minutes on this video there is information on the map about the situation in Libya. The pink light of the Sarajah control zone, the green light at Haftar. Libya is a desert, because such a map)
              Thanks for looking. Whatever one may say, but as of 5.12.19/XNUMX/XNUMX, the Haftaravites territorially control most of Libya. It is difficult to say what the distribution of population density on both sides is, and therefore it is difficult to assess the capabilities of the warring parties in recruiting. There seems to be quite a few mercenaries and the support of the UN on the side of Saraja, on the side of Haftar, the legitimacy and support of the people. he won the election. But the right thing is who in the US or Great Britain was embarrassed by the fact that the people chose this or that leader as a result of an official democratic procedure. The mattresses said that in Venezuela Guaido is the president, not Maduro, and all the American sixes immediately supported Guaido. True, where is this recognized "president" Guaido now and how does he get his presidential salary? - nobody remembers.
              1. protoss
                protoss 10 December 2019 20: 35
                0
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                on the side of Haftar, the legitimacy and support of the people as he won the election.

                in which such elections did Haftar not remind? is not the CIA elections held?
                1. Nyrobsky
                  Nyrobsky 10 December 2019 21: 00
                  +1
                  Quote: protoss
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  on the side of Haftar, the legitimacy and support of the people as he won the election.

                  in which such elections did Haftar not remind? is not the CIA elections held?

                  laughing There is a jamb. I admit hi I misinterpreted the event. "In 2016, the House of Representatives of Libya was elected the Supreme Commander of Libya and appointed Field Marshal."
              2. Oquzyurd
                Oquzyurd 10 December 2019 21: 33
                +2
                "It is difficult to say what is the distribution of population density on both sides." The population of Libya mainly (estimated at 90%) live on the line along the sea. Considering that the population of Libya is estimated at 7 million 200 thousand people (2018) and given that the capital of Saraj, then either an approximately equal alignment, or Saraj has more people, most likely.
                1. Nyrobsky
                  Nyrobsky 10 December 2019 21: 52
                  +2
                  Quote: Oquzyurd
                  Libyan people mainly (estimated 90%) live on the line along the sea, taking into account that the population of Libya is estimated at 7 million 200 thousand people (2018) and given that the capital of Saraj, it’s either approximately the same alignment, or Saraj more people are likely.

                  Clear. But, the people seem to have drank "democracy" and the Gaddafi family no longer seems to him as bad as in the period when he was overthrown, and therefore the majority do not mind if one of his children, Seif or Aisha, comes to power. Haftar, in spite of the fact that he had disagreements with their dad, does not seem to exclude the possibility that he will support them in case of victory. It turns out that Haftar's actions intersect with the interests of the people.
          2. mammadov teymur
            mammadov teymur 11 December 2019 07: 41
            0
            the whole point is the gas in this situation, the gas produced there will not flow to Europe not through the Turkish water area or through its territory; other options, if any, are not serious. Russia is somewhere on hand
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 11 December 2019 07: 51
              0
              Quote: mammadov teymur
              the whole point is the gas in this situation, the gas produced there will not flow to Europe not through the Turkish water area or through its territory; other options, if any, are not serious. Russia is somewhere on hand

              You probably mean Syria? And talking about Libya. If you drive gas from Libya to Turkey, then this is the shortest route for more than 600 km. It's easier to throw a pipe to Greece (300km) or to Italy (400km). winked
              1. mammadov teymur
                mammadov teymur 12 December 2019 07: 59
                0
                about Mediterranean gas which, after production, they want to deliver to Europe through pipes along the bottom of the Mediterranean to Europe such countries as Egypt, Israel, Northern Cyprus, but after the agreements of Libya and Turkey, this issue will have to be coordinated with Turkey
        3. SERGOL
          SERGOL 10 December 2019 18: 39
          0
          Performs. Even how it performs. We play with the Turks.
      2. Gennady Fomkin
        Gennady Fomkin 10 December 2019 14: 28
        -2
        Erdogan himself, who do you want to beat out of these, and the United States, along with its partners in calorie, who are they? feel
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 10 December 2019 17: 52
          +3
          Quote: Gennady Fomkin
          Erdogan himself, who do you want to beat out of these, and the United States, along with its partners in calorie, who are they? feel

          Do not overestimate the fart !!! wink wassat wassat crawls everywhere with his army ... they will crumble it and will not have time to look back !!! laughing laughing laughing
    2. cost
      cost 10 December 2019 13: 39
      +8
      There is a whole bunch of contradictions. Mostly Turkish-Greek. Earlier, the Greek authorities declared the persona non grata of the Libyan ambassador and gave him 72 hours to leave the country. The reason for such actions was the memorandum on maritime zones, which was signed by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the head of the terrorist Government of the National Accord of Libya, Fayez Sarraj. The document provides for the creation of new maritime borders and deprives Greece of the right to maritime zones in the region of Crete, Rhodes and several other islands. However, the agreement concluded with the terrorists is illegal and has no legal force.
      Turkey has previously engaged in the transfer of terrorists and PNS Libya militants and mercenaries from the de-escalation zone in Syrian Idlib and is supplying the PNS with might and main. Despite this, the LNA under the command of Khalifa Haftar inflicts significant damage to the PNS fighters. Erdogan understands this, and is now forced to openly declare his intention to send Turkish troops to Libya.
      1. svp67
        svp67 10 December 2019 13: 42
        +3
        Quote: Rich
        Head of the Libyan National Accord Terrorist Government Fayez Sarraj.

        And who recognized them as "terrorists"?
        1. cost
          cost 10 December 2019 13: 45
          +3
          The PNS is directly linked to terrorist groups like the Islamic State and Al Qaeda (both banned in Russia).
          1. svp67
            svp67 10 December 2019 13: 47
            +2
            Quote: Rich
            The PNS is directly linked to terrorist groups like the Islamic State and Al Qaeda (both banned in Russia).

            This is a very slippery question, especially when looking at Syria.
          2. Altai72
            Altai72 10 December 2019 16: 36
            +1
            How? Can I ask for a link? It will be interesting ..
          3. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 10 December 2019 17: 30
            +2
            Quote: Rich
            The PNS is directly linked to terrorist groups like the Islamic State and Al Qaeda (both banned in Russia).

            If the PNS is supported by the UN, then it is not officially included in the status of "terrorists". Now the UN, like mattresses, suffers from squint, and therefore, on the terrorists themselves and the forces maintaining contacts with them, they cannot focus their eyesight, but they see around all those who are fighting them and rank them as terrorists.
          4. protoss
            protoss 10 December 2019 20: 44
            0
            Quote: Rich
            with terrorist groups like Islamic State and Al Qaeda

            what are these groups sort of listed - hezbollah, ira, aum shinrike? Are there any documents confirming the connection between the PNS and such groups, or is it just statements from opponents from Tobruk or Benghazi?
        2. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 10 December 2019 16: 26
          +1
          He does not understand that this government is officially recognized by the UN, and Haftar is an oppositionist, only with weapons.
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 10 December 2019 13: 44
        0
        it would be better if you climbed into Tunisia - you can salt the francs
        1. svp67
          svp67 10 December 2019 13: 46
          +1
          Quote: antivirus
          it would be better if you climbed into Tunisia - you can salt the francs

          It will turn out in Libya and climb there, but no, no
          1. Hunter 2
            Hunter 2 10 December 2019 13: 50
            +4
            Quote: svp67
            Quote: antivirus
            it would be better if you climbed into Tunisia - you can salt the francs

            It will turn out in Libya and climb there, but no, no

            Tunisia - The country is poor ... and here is MALI ... with their reserves of Uranus and Gold, and much more - Here it would be for the French, It’s definitely not only annoyed but also peppered! good
            1. svp67
              svp67 10 December 2019 13: 51
              +4
              Quote: Hunter 2
              and here is MALI ...

              The Chinese comrades are already working "fruitfully" there ...
              1. Hunter 2
                Hunter 2 10 December 2019 14: 01
                +5
                Quote: svp67
                Quote: Hunter 2
                and here is MALI ...

                The Chinese comrades are already working "fruitfully" there ...

                Well, so far armed - only the French with comrades ...
                Miratvorets damn, as soon as they found the reserves of Uranus and confirmed the reserves of Gold in Mali - they rushed to help their former colony! am
                1. svp67
                  svp67 10 December 2019 14: 17
                  +4
                  Quote: Hunter 2
                  Well, so far armed - only the French with comrades ...

                  Actually, SIX AND A HALF MILLION ETHNIC CHINESE live in Mali, this may already serve as a reason ... "ours are beaten" has not been canceled yet
                  And there already now there is a contingent of Chinese PEACEKEEPERS and they are definitely not armed with slingshots
                  1. Hunter 2
                    Hunter 2 10 December 2019 14: 25
                    +4
                    I agree! Yes, there are Chinese! Do you think they have a snack with NATO in Mali?
                    The Chinese - stupidly thrown! Exploration work - they did !!! And gesheft - the French wished to receive themselves!
            2. antivirus
              antivirus 10 December 2019 14: 19
              0
              Nato's collapse is worth it
              1. svp67
                svp67 10 December 2019 14: 29
                +2
                Quote: antivirus
                Nato's collapse is worth it

                Quiet, maybe yes, but "with thunder and lightning", somehow scary. They have so many weapons that two planets like Earth can be destroyed without any problems.
    3. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 10 December 2019 13: 41
      0
      The memory of the greatness of the Ottoman Empire does not give him peace. He wants to go down in history as Erdogan the All-conquering!)))
    4. Finches
      Finches 10 December 2019 13: 54
      +6
      I read through the prism of a faceted glass - Turkey is ready to send an army to help the government of LATVIA ...! I think, not a fig Erdogan handsome - perhaps the doctors forgot to put a sedative shot in the morning, so he began to turn into a sultan! laughing

      And so yes - there is oil - or you will help Libya or the United States will help - in this case there are more than enough assistants!
    5. Alien From
      Alien From 10 December 2019 14: 19
      +4
      Sultan’s trousers will withstand) He has both money and charisma for his eyes! The Yankees have experienced it.
    6. venik
      venik 10 December 2019 16: 05
      0
      Quote: svp67
      Erdogan walks wide, will the trousers stand?

      =======
      Duc "wide trousers" - they are "wide" - will stand!
      The question is: "Will it withstand"crotch"???) ..... Here it is she maybe "to tear"..... request
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 10 December 2019 13: 19
    +2
    Turkey is ready to send an army to help the Libyan government

    Actually, however! Sultan in his role.
  3. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 10 December 2019 13: 19
    +2
    There, joint patrols with the Russian air force, the Turks will not succeed in stirring up. And very good.
  4. bessmertniy
    bessmertniy 10 December 2019 13: 23
    -5
    The Turks climbed into Syria without invitation. So this is not enough for them - they are ready to plant firewood in the civil war in Libya. It is noticeable that the West also aims to ensure that this conflict continues.
  5. Saboteur Holuy
    Saboteur Holuy 10 December 2019 13: 23
    -7
    The Turks there will quickly roll out this marshal ...
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 10 December 2019 13: 26
      +4
      Well, they are even limited in supply (armored cars, anti-tank systems, shells, mortars, etc.) + UAVs + probably the detection / destruction means of aviation were brought in and repaired = they stopped the attack on Tripoli. And that’s all, it’s already about six months in minus for Haftar. For he really can’t advance forward, and here and there he has to roll back.

      Still, Turkish specialists> UAE specialists + Sudanese tourists.
    2. svp67
      svp67 10 December 2019 13: 56
      +1
      Quote: Saboteur Holuay
      The Turks there will quickly roll out this marshal ...
      Aha ... "we would give them if they caught up with us ..."
    3. Leshy1975
      Leshy1975 10 December 2019 15: 40
      -5
      Quote: Diversant Holuy
      The Turks there will quickly roll out this marshal ...

      There is a small problem here, namely that we (the Russian Federation) support this particular marshal. We support arms deliveries, participation of PMCs and, probably, military advisers. So in this case, there is another point of confrontation between the interests of the Russian Federation and Turkey. And it is not yet clear how exactly, on what scale all of this can affect the Russian military in Syria, if we are forced to actually conduct a database in Libya against Turkey. And here it is necessary either to increase our participation, or it will be necessary to merge Haftar, because on his own he certainly will not survive against Turkey.

      PS Well, a mess in the foreign policy of Putin’s government, this is another big story. hi
  6. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 10 December 2019 13: 34
    +3
    in the west - the government of national accord (PNS), supported by the UN and the EU.

    These are not the UN and EU, with the assistance of which they killed Gaddafi? belay
  7. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 10 December 2019 13: 37
    -3
    Apparently, Turkey, in agreement with the Russian Federation, is beginning to play an active role in the Middle East, crowding out the states and their oil fodders. The Sultan is still that Imperial ... Imperial)))) The great Persian past haunts. No wonder he gathered the 2nd strongest army in NATO. Now you can play cards too near your borders.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 10 December 2019 13: 53
      +1
      "Apparently, Turkey in agreement with the Russian Federation" ///
      ----
      What was agreed? belay
      Russians in PMCs are fighting on one side - Marshal Hartaf,
      And the Turks on the other are governments in the capital of Tripoli.
      Shoot each other.
      1. Mainbeam
        Mainbeam 10 December 2019 13: 56
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Russian PMCs are fighting on one side ... And the Turks on the other

        So the situation is similar for the Kurds in northern Syria. In Libya, the very conceptual pro-government confrontation between the Russian Federation and Turkey is interesting, and, therefore, the coordination of interests in order to avoid direct armed conflict.

        In some book I read the phrase "armed neutrality".
        I think this most accurately describes the political relations of Turkey and the Russian Federation.
  8. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 10 December 2019 13: 51
    +3
    Libya is the EU oil feeder, the transport shoulder is amazing, the oil quality is excellent, the production cost is low. Control over Libya is crucial for the EU. It is its soft underbelly, oh, how many dividends can be drawn from our influence in this place. Even Syria smokes here.
  9. knn54
    knn54 10 December 2019 13: 52
    +3
    The Turks flew with Syrian oil, decided to get the Libyan. The only thing the Libyans do not understand is that the occupiers got.
    One thing is the technique, but the regular units of the Ottomans. Although the army of the PNS consists of their fosterlings, Haftar will have a trump card. The Greeks will obviously begin to help the marshal.
  10. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 December 2019 14: 10
    +3
    laughing Nothing special happened - Erdogan Ottoman Empire revives. Let the Greeks complain to their EU partners or NATO partners, but rather let them write in sportloto ..... laughing
  11. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 December 2019 14: 24
    +1
    The memorandum of understanding on the demarcation of maritime zones, signed by Turkish President Recep Taype Erdogan and leader of the so-called Government of National Accord Fayez Sarraj, caused international discontent. Greece threatens to expel the Libyan ambassador if he does not disclose the content of the agreement. laughing Greek Foreign Minister Nikos Dendias called to his carpet the Libyan and Turkish ambassadors) and demanded to disclose the details of the agreement. If the requirements are not met, the Libyan ambassador Mayaz Gzlal, the Greeks promised to send. Nikos Dendias intends to raise the issue at the congresses of NATO and the OSCE.
  12. Graz
    Graz 10 December 2019 14: 51
    -1
    Well, the Turks will tear navel in both Syria and Libya to fight
    1. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 10 December 2019 16: 51
      +1
      In general, the concept of the Turkish army is formed in such a way that they can fight on 2 fronts, with all their components.
  13. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 December 2019 14: 51
    +1
    The Turks have an army like the Germans and the French combined: German forces, numbering 178 thousand people. At the same time, the country's defense budget is $ 49,1 billion. From 2005 to 2015, the French army has declined by 60 thousand people, currently the number of active military personnel in the French army is 205 people. With 000 active military personnel and a defense budget of 355 , 000 billion dollars Turkey is rightfully considered one of the strongest armies in the world.
    1. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 10 December 2019 16: 56
      +1
      The Turkish army is now actually more than 500 thousand people. But the main thing is that it has a 100 thousandth active part, consisting of special brigades. This is a huge figure, even the United States does not have so many active special brigades.
      1. Gennady Fomkin
        Gennady Fomkin 10 December 2019 17: 25
        +1
        Absolutely.
  14. Altai72
    Altai72 10 December 2019 16: 48
    +3
    Quote: MainBeam
    The great Persian past haunts.

    Here the Persians and does not smell)) It's about Arabs and Turks. Persons, where did you manage to find?
  15. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 December 2019 17: 34
    0
    The Fatih Turkish drilling vessel has begun work in the area south of the Karpas Peninsula in Cyprus. Fatih drilling ship embarked on a new mission in the Fr. Cyprus. The Vice President of Turkey F. Oktay announced this on November 15, 2019. The new place of work of the ship is in the area south of the Karpas Peninsula in Cyprus.
    This is confirmed by the Marinetraffic ship tracking service. When the smell of gas. wassat
  16. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 December 2019 19: 07
    0
    Quote: Nikolai Grek
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Erdogan himself, who do you want to beat out of these, and the United States, along with its partners in calorie, who are they? feel

    Do not overestimate the fart !!! wink wassat wassat crawls everywhere with his army ... they will crumble it and will not have time to look back !!! laughing laughing laughing

    Who? laughing Allies? laughing And who will cover NATO? laughing
  17. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 December 2019 19: 30
    0
    Quote: Nikolai Grek
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Erdogan himself, who do you want to beat out of these, and the United States, along with its partners in calorie, who are they? feel

    Do not overestimate the fart !!! wink wassat wassat crawls everywhere with his army ... they will crumble it and will not have time to look back !!! laughing laughing laughing

    He will quickly hurry up by releasing hordes of "refugees" who are not needed by anyone in Europe, will close the straits and tryndets all "world trade" laughing
  18. no better place for
    no better place for 11 December 2019 00: 50
    0
    Fine cho. At the invitation of a recognized United Nations legitimate government. Here in Syria they shout a lot that the Russians are there at the invitation of the legitimate government and that the Americans have lost there. But for some reason, this question disappears when they write about Libya. What did the Wagnerites lose there?