Initiative: Commentator of the Year Contest

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So, dear readers and commenters, since the year 2019 is slowly everything, we decided to hold such a competition: “Commentator of the Year” at the end of it.

In general, it is no secret that we have readers who are able to write another article in the comments. And very often this is not an attempt to tell everyone that borscht (in the sense of the article) did not come from the word “completely”, but a real supplement based on personal experience or in-depth study of the issue in the rank of a hobby.

Yes, there are fewer such people, but they still exist. Therefore, we would like to ask your opinion and mark these readers with memorable gifts. Like in a normal competition.

Why "readers"? Because we have several sections. Of course they are as different as historical part may differ from the analytical. But both there and there are their "piranha feathers." Why not make several nominations, more precisely, three? “Analytics”, “Armament”, “History”. Each can have its own “Commentator of the Year”.

How do we propose to do this?

In your comments you fill out three points:
1. Nick on the site.
2. The section in which the author commented.
3. Why and how you liked the author (3-6 sentences, brief description).

Next, we carefully study what your candidate wrote about and how, and in the absence of any doubt, we submit the candidate for further consideration.

I especially draw attention to the fact that we have a certain number of visitors who love to catch up with our ratings and reduce to others. Gentlemen from the Order of Poking in the Minus, I ask you to be prudent and not spoil the New Year's mood to others.

So we do not catch up with our "pluses" (in the sense of recommendations), especially since the comments will be carefully studied by the authors from the relevant sections and the decision will be made collectively.

We hope that this initiative will appeal to all lovers of good and useful posts. We are waiting for your opinions.

The results will be announced on December 30 and announced in a separate material.
  • Gerd Altmann
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  1. +16
    11 December 2019 05: 59
    I welcome the initiative! Yes literate diminished, where is Domoki, where is Ascetic? Lopatov sometimes appears, I give my vote to Lopatov in the "Armaments" section
    1. +11
      11 December 2019 06: 47
      Totally agree with you! Without our master, BO is boring! I AM FOR LOPATOVA!
      1. +6
        11 December 2019 10: 45
        I am also for Lopatov! To the chief artilleryman of the site - honor and respect!
    2. +2
      11 December 2019 11: 40
      I give my vote to Lopatov in the "Armaments" section

      In my opinion Donavi definitely number 1
      1. +8
        11 December 2019 12: 06
        The nickname Donavi49 will be correct. He really in the news section mainly comments correctly and competently.
        1. +12
          11 December 2019 13: 06
          Good afternoon! I offer MICHMAN (Yuri Grigorovich Shatrakov, Professor, Doctor of Technical Sciences, Member of the Russian Academy of Sciences. Cavalier of many Orders and Medals, Laureate of Two State Prizes, author of many scientific articles, holder of several Patents, Honored Worker of Science! (Maybe I forgot all the regalia).
          Michman - writes interesting, thoughtful comments, I always read them with interest! Especially stories about his own life and meeting interesting people.
          He made a huge contribution to the defense of our country (USSR, RUSSIA). Such a forum member - The site should be proud! soldier
          ps Michman - wrote more than three thousand comments on the site!
          1. +5
            11 December 2019 16: 35
            Aristarkh Ludwigovich, your comments are also interesting to read. You can agree, you can hold a different opinion, but I am interested in reading your comments. Often I learn a lot for myself.
            From me to you good
            1. +4
              11 December 2019 17: 47
              Vladimir hi Thank you drinks This year, two of my articles were published by the site administration after editing, thanks to them for supporting such undertakings. Writing for me is just a hobby, a hobby, but no more.
            2. +8
              11 December 2019 18: 32
              Quote: Vladimir16
              Aristarkh Ludwigovich, your comments are also interesting to read.

              I join, all on business and without emotions hi
              1. +3
                11 December 2019 23: 34
                And I will vote for the cat-dog. Golovan Jack = Cat Man Null = Consultant = Not bad = Rusland. And that's not all. Or for Meehan in all his guises, the last Starper 777. Today they are the face of the site, or ... It doesn't matter. But such obstinacy definitely deserves the "Order of the Burnt Sofa".
                1. +10
                  12 December 2019 01: 10
                  Quote: lexus
                  Today they are the face of the site, or ... It doesn't matter. But such obstinacy definitely deserves the Order of the Burnt Sofa.

                  pot calls the kettle black!!! wink wassat wassat lol lol lol
                2. +4
                  12 December 2019 07: 55
                  Quote: lexus
                  Golovan Jack = Cat Man Null = Consultant = Good = Rusland

                  You, my friend, are a kind of persecution mania.

                  Cat Man Null in a perpetual bath, and nothing can annoy you.
                  The other two have nothing to do with me.
                  If you still have questions - you can always ask their site administration.

                  But you out of habit continue to breed haze on the forum. Not good. Indiscriminately.
          2. -3
            12 December 2019 17: 20
            Quote: Hunter 2
            ps Michman - wrote more than three thousand comments on the site!

            yomayo
            3 kilos?
        2. +10
          12 December 2019 02: 37
          Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
          The nickname Donavi49 will be correct. He really in the news section mainly comments correctly and competently.

          One of the most interesting and professional commentators on the site, I, if not the oldest on the site, then one of the few remaining (registered at VO when he was half a year old), I will express my humble opinion ... this is VAF (later Ancient) , Rudolph, NN52 (although he is unpleasant to me as a person, but a good knowledgeable pilot), Andrey from Chelyabinsk, and probably Lopatov, at least often argued with him.
          But I will not vote for anyone, considering it stupid. The value of wise and efficient commentary, opinion is not in the pluses and not in the titles, but in the discussion potential, both of the opinion itself and in the commentator. Now, very often a thread in a topic turns into a set of slogans, frank srach, snapping trolls, well, crying why do we live so badly in Russia. When VO just started, there were a lot of really professionals who could share their knowledge, their opinions, debate without rushing into a skirmish. It was interesting to read branches with sensible articles and clever comments. But almost all of them left VO. Alas, there is no longer that cool, interesting, informative VO site, and apparently will not be anymore. Which certainly upsets me.
          Now, alas, I must admit that when reading today's articles on the site, you understand that once a cool site where people with interesting opinions, fates, experience and knowledge (which made VO unique) gathered, it disappeared forever.
          It will probably be stupid ... but with both hands I would vote for that VO, the sample of 2012.
          1. +3
            12 December 2019 11: 45
            Quote: NEXUS
            Now, alas, I must admit that when reading today's articles on the site, you understand that once a cool site where people with interesting opinions, fates, experience and knowledge (which made VO unique) gathered, it disappeared forever.
            It will probably be stupid ... but with both hands I would vote for that VO, the sample of 2012.

            Stopudovo good drinks
          2. -2
            19 December 2019 20: 33
            Quote: NEXUS
            It will probably be stupid ... but with both hands I would vote for that VO, the sample of 2012.

            2013 was a time .. I read avidly. And then the Professor appeared ".. (joke))))
  2. +31
    11 December 2019 06: 02
    If, in fairness, Mikhan will collect all the titles for all years
    1. +8
      11 December 2019 06: 04
      I'm sorry, I forgot about Mikhan
    2. +12
      11 December 2019 10: 05
      Quote: pru-pavel
      If, in fairness, Mikhan will collect all the titles for all years


      Here I agree. unconditional leader. Except for one section. In the topic "Cannibalism in the USSR" I would nominate Olgovich.
      1. +9
        11 December 2019 10: 35
        Quote: sergo1914
        In the topic "Cannibalism in the USSR" I would nominate Olgovich.

        good I support. I have never met such an anti-Soviet mood anywhere. hi
        1. +7
          11 December 2019 10: 41
          I propose, as applicants for the title, the best commentator on the VO site, the following people: Parusnik and Tatyana. I like their comments.
          1. +3
            13 December 2019 05: 31
            Quote: solzh
            I propose, as applicants for the title, the best commentator on the VO site, the following people: Parusnik and Tatyana. I like their comments.

            I will join your opinion laughing
          2. -1
            19 December 2019 20: 36
            Quote: solzh
            Tatyana. I like their comments.

            Tatyana is our clever, so everything is short and boldly writes .. love
      2. +2
        12 December 2019 04: 24
        Quote: sergo1914
        In the topic "Cannibalism in the USSR" I would nominate Olgovich.

        I'm in the subject: "Sausage train from the USSR" - I vote for Ivanov. laughing
        1. +2
          12 December 2019 08: 10
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Quote: sergo1914
          In the topic "Cannibalism in the USSR" I would nominate Olgovich.

          I'm in the subject: "Sausage train from the USSR" - I vote for Ivanov. laughing


          “Throw the ram on the fan” - Shpakovsky
  3. +12
    11 December 2019 06: 11
    what was observed 3-4 years ago and what is now - earth and sky, some smiles, slogans and nagging ... the one who will shout the loudest and create the flood sea will win
    1. +12
      11 December 2019 07: 37
      It seems that the site administration has found an opportunity to quarrel all of us. what Of course, I have my own preferences, but I think I’d better leave them secret.
      1. +7
        11 December 2019 09: 46
        Quote: bessmertniy
        It seems that the site administration has found an opportunity to quarrel all of us.

        --------------------------
        Victor, why do we quarrel? Everyone has their own opinion and manner of presentation in the comments. We discuss social and political events as we see them, and not propagandists paid by someone. Of course, we can both agree and disagree.
        1. +3
          11 December 2019 16: 39
          Quote: bessmertniy
          It seems that the site administration has found an opportunity to quarrel all of us.

          Well, not the children, indeed.
          He quarrels over the fact that someone has an opposite opinion, this is the exclusive right of the child.
          1. +8
            12 December 2019 01: 32
            Quote: Vladimir16
            Well, not the children, indeed.
            He quarrels over the fact that someone has an opposite opinion, this is the exclusive right of the child.

            at you underestimate the podvdokommunistov and pseudo-liberals !!! wink laughing laughing
        2. +3
          15 December 2019 22: 59
          Quote: Altona
          We discuss social and political events as we see them, and not propagandists paid by someone.

          what and nothing, that it is not a socio-political "resource" ?? recourse so he seems to be military !!! wink wassat wassat wassat
          1. -4
            17 December 2019 10: 16
            Quote: Nikolai the Greek
            so he seems to be military !!!

            ----------------------
            Ahh, well, yes, our army has been "out of politics" for quite some time now, a bunch of beneficiaries and early retirees, not "to die for their homeland," but they put on shoulder straps in the end. So why, in fact, are there some kind of politota to breed? They will tell the enemy to beat, on the line of fire, so on the line of fire. If they say to punish the protest population, then go there. They will say that it is necessary to guard the oil rigs there.
            1. +4
              17 December 2019 18: 01
              Quote: Altona
              Quote: Nikolai the Greek
              so he seems to be military !!!

              ----------------------
              Ahh, well, yes, our army has been "out of politics" for quite some time now, a bunch of beneficiaries and early retirees, not "to die for their homeland," but they put on shoulder straps in the end. So why, in fact, are there some kind of politota to breed? They will tell the enemy to beat, on the line of fire, so on the line of fire. If they say to punish the protest population, then go there. They will say that it is necessary to guard the oil rigs there.

              what DE-MA-GO-GI-YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA !!! wassat wassat wink
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      2. +6
        11 December 2019 11: 01
        Quote: bessmertniy
        It seems that the site administration has found an opportunity to quarrel all of us.


        Of course, we have nothing more to do, so, they came up with ...
        1. +4
          11 December 2019 11: 17
          You are here, so to speak, "power", and we are "people."
          Here, one of the sides of the government is to listen to the opinion of the people.
          1. +6
            11 December 2019 11: 19
            Quote: Mestny
            Here, one of the sides of the government is to listen to the opinion of the people.


            We are subtracting. Your flood as well.
            1. +5
              11 December 2019 11: 20
              Well, see?
              Thank you very much for your attitude to the people.
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              2. +12
                11 December 2019 13: 22
                I’m very interested ... what kind of battle of the Titans took place in such an innocuous article that 30 comments were deleted ??? request
                No way American spies, agents of world Zionism and non-brothers - Myself in the Commentators of the Year offered ??? belay
                Sorry - I missed it ... maybe at least someone will hint ??? what
                1. +5
                  11 December 2019 16: 42
                  And there’s nothing to do, Alexei laughing
                  The most interesting thing is why you actually missed the contest. laughing
                2. +4
                  12 December 2019 07: 11
                  Quote: Hunter 2
                  what a battle of the Titans

                  Nothing special, they just discussed the activities of the moderators, so they didn’t like it.
                  1. +8
                    17 December 2019 19: 55
                    Vyacheslav hi Alexei is not interested in moderators, but in the activities of the Order of Torquemada, which is reflected in the corresponding article. request
                    1. +1
                      17 December 2019 20: 01
                      Quote: Svarog51
                      and the activities of the Order of Torquemada

                      hi please explain what is it?
                      1. +8
                        17 December 2019 20: 08
                        Sorry, Vyacheslav. They can put me away for this for another year, I am in charge of the Special Division at the head. Well, let it be, what will be, here is a link to the article.
                        https://topwar.ru/147405-orden-torkvemady-na-voennom-obozrenii-smeh-skvoz-slezy.html
                        Decide for yourself who is right and who is wrong.
                      2. +2
                        19 December 2019 16: 29
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        Decide for yourself who is right and who is wrong.

                        Sergei! I read the article and comments ...
                        I suppose that the admins calculated you at the very beginning of the hobby group, but decided to pump the topic because of the hype, which we actually achieved. They also have their own struggle for rating.
                        With regards to the actions of your group, of course, joining together easily drive any commentator into a minus.
                        You took on the authority of a moderator.
                        But we are a site for communication, and not for struggle, for expressing our point of view and for pleasant leisure and relaxation.
                        Question.
                        Why do you need it?
                        Is monetization of group actions possible?
                        What is the benefit? Or is it not a matter of profit, but of getting pleasure from making commentators minus and the ability to influence the actions of their followers?
                        Special thanks for the link to the article. hi
                      3. +7
                        19 December 2019 19: 57
                        Vyacheslav hi The point here is that people in uniform understand the power of unification. Pros and cons - production costs. The moderators were also in the know. One of them paid for the job. There was no and no monetization from the word - at all. Only voluntary and non-refundable participation. Benefit? Well, how can I tell you? I personally have made so many new friends across all the expanses of our country and even abroad. Probably - it was worth it. Influence on friends - not, not mine. They are already successful people and have their own point of view, but to prevent skirmishes between them - yes. Let them respect the opinions of others, and not just their own. The rest is no different from the Army Charter, everyone knows who has joined. Violations are punished more strictly than on the site. Until expulsion from the Order. Well, since we were rehabilitated, then we do not pose a threat to the site. Rather, we protect it from completely frostbitten. Something like that.
                      4. +2
                        19 December 2019 20: 16
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        Well, since we were rehabilitated, then we do not pose a threat to the site. Rather, we protect it from completely frostbitten.

                        I believe that your group has entered into an agreement with the site administration.
                        Obviously, some of the obligations you made to the administration of the HE have become the price of rehabilitation.
                        Well, okay, this is your business, the main thing is that the principles of freedom of speech and opinion are not unshakable on the VO site. hi
                      5. +6
                        19 December 2019 20: 23
                        No, there was no conversation and no obligations either. The rules of the site are unshakable, the rest is according to the rules, and they have changed significantly since then. Now I can pay the epaulettes for deliberate plusing, even if I consider you my friend and associate. And for the minus - the punishment has not changed.
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            3. +6
              17 December 2019 21: 16
              Novel hi Many human thanks for the reserved word. good For myself, I was somehow not worried, can I ask for the fate of Alexander vorobey?
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    2. +8
      12 December 2019 01: 29
      Quote: Not a liberoid Russian
      what was observed 3-4 years ago and what is now - earth and sky, some smiles, slogans and nagging ... the one who will shout the loudest and create the flood sea will win

      it's all the election of the President of the Russian Federation to blame !!! wink if breastilin won, there would still be songs and dances !!! wassat lol lol lol
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          2. +14
            11 December 2019 11: 15
            I first found out about the site in 2013 and visited it solely for the sake of articles on military equipment. Politics was then mundane and, in its own way, boring. I looked into that section a couple of times and that's all ...
            I registered three years ago when I accidentally read some opus about Ukraine and realized that it was mostly a lie.
            My father is near Kiev. Some of my acquaintances from childhood remained. All normal, adequate people against the vilification of which I often stand up. Probably, I received the "general" only a few days ago, when those who registered at the same time with me are already "marshals" laughing
            But interesting and high-quality articles on technology have become less ... much less ...
            1. +3
              11 December 2019 16: 50
              Leader of the Redskins, congratulations on the general's red bloomers!
              No one denigrates anyone.
              People are rather indignant over the mess and lawlessness that the humpbacked and his surrounding Codla arranged.
              In Kiev, the same villains were at that time at the top, as in Moscow.
              Otherwise, they would not have cut the country into pieces.

              People always want to live better, and some on this make their careers and loot. They probably think that they are immortal. It struck my head that, having divided into parts, we will enter paradise.
              It turned out - nonsense.

              At least here, on the site, we can discuss and listen to each other.

              Now choose the most popular speaker! good

              Hooray! to everyone who is here, and to everyone who is here! soldier
            2. +6
              12 December 2019 01: 34
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              I registered three years ago when I accidentally read some opus about Ukraine and realized that it was mostly a lie.

              and what opus was ??? what
      3. +14
        11 December 2019 09: 35
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        There were commentators giving balanced, but often "inconvenient" comments, so what? "There are no others, but those are far away

        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        More often, apparently, "they are gone"

        Kamrad! Bro! fellow Not only I subscribe to these words with both hands (left and right ...), but I also put my stamp IP! You speak the truth! Yes
    2. +15
      11 December 2019 08: 24
      Quote: Gardamir
      Why are there fewer such people? This is not the merit of the site administration.

      --------------------------------
      Yes, Gardamir. All militaristic sites actively nurture all types of censorship, grow their own room analysts and historians, start their own bots, and strive to be as loyal to official opinion as possible. This site is no exception. Otherwise, revenues will fall and there will be claims from regulatory authorities.
      1. +3
        11 December 2019 11: 44
        Probably, the answer for your post may be the comments deleted above))) And you didn’t write anything seditious.
        1. +5
          11 December 2019 12: 09
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          Probably, the answer for your post may be the comments deleted above))) And you didn’t write anything seditious.

          ---------------------
          Nazarius, I generally write the most herbivorous comments. And yet. laughing
          1. +6
            11 December 2019 17: 00
            Quote: Altona
            Otherwise, revenues will fall and there will be claims from regulatory authorities.

            And you're all about the dough.

            The creators of the site fellows! good
            I largely disagree for example with Skomorokhov.
            But sometimes he writes what I think. winked

            Because we are all living people.

            And apparently the number of people communicating through this site is growing.

            Thanks to the creators of the site. Editors, journalists and just writing people.

            Editors are great. Followers of commentators and remove what turns other resources into a garbage dump.

            Hurray to all!
            1. +2
              11 December 2019 17: 52
              Quote: Vladimir16
              And you're all about the dough.

              The creators of the site fellows! good
              I largely disagree for example with Skomorokhov.
              But sometimes he writes what I think.

              --------------------------
              Sometimes I also agree with Skomorokhov, but what I wrote in my post about the dough was almost literally told to me by Skomorokhov. I would post the screen of our correspondence, but for ethical reasons I will not do this. So what about the loot is not for me, but to the site administration.
      2. +9
        11 December 2019 14: 00
        Quote: Altona
        . All militaristic sites actively nurture all types of censorship, grow their own room analysts and historians, start their own bots, strive to be as loyal as possible official opinion. This site is no exception.


        In my opinion, there are quite a few articles on the site that criticize official points of view.
        And they support Something.

        So, I think it should. And interesting. And in the comments you can do this and that.
        1. +3
          11 December 2019 17: 54
          Quote: Olgovich
          In my opinion, there are quite a few articles on the site that criticize official points of view.
          And they support Something.

          -----------------------
          It turns out because the social temperature of society rises. Six months ago, the site administration harassed me for more innocuous comments. She is still pursuing, people see are very touchy and vindictive. laughing
        2. +4
          12 December 2019 01: 39
          Quote: Olgovich
          In my opinion, there are quite a few articles on the site that criticize official points of view.

          I would say a lot !!! wink
          Quote: Olgovich
          And they support Something.

          I would say that there are practically no such !!! wassat lol lol
    3. +17
      11 December 2019 09: 22
      Quote: Gardamir
      Why are there fewer such people? This is not the merit of the site administration. Those people were not interested and they left, or they left.

      The level of discussion in the comments has frankly fallen in recent years, you can’t argue. It is felt that whole detachments of minusculeters wander from topic to topic. You can completely agree with your opponent, and after a few hours you can see that you have 5-10 minuses, and he has one. Therefore, to comment is already lazy.
      So I agree with the above. Meehan - this is the main commentator on the current site! He has continuous slogans, but at least everything is honest and open, without pretense of a certain intellect. Therefore, it is perceived with humor more
      1. +16
        11 December 2019 09: 37
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        The level of discussion in the comments has frankly fallen in recent years, you can’t argue. It is felt that whole detachments of minusculeters wander from topic to topic. You can completely agree with your opponent, and after a few hours you can see that you have 5-10 minuses, and he has one. Therefore, to comment is already lazy.

        --------------------
        Yes, many old-timers of the site say that they are openly rotten by "troll factories". This fate did not escape me either, so I completely agree with the comment thread under this article. I am very pleased that such a sincere discussion about the shortcomings has turned out. Thanks to all the commentators.
      2. +4
        11 December 2019 18: 18
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        Meehan - this is the main commentator on the current site

        I apologize for my low awareness, not in view of the long presence on the site, but what is his nickname?
        1. +3
          11 December 2019 18: 58
          Quote: WIKI
          I apologize for my low awareness, not in view of the long presence on the site, but what is his nickname?

          Now I don’t know, they regularly banyat him hi
          1. +2
            11 December 2019 20: 30
            Good people explained in the comment below https://topwar.ru/user/MIKHAN/
        2. 0
          12 December 2019 20: 48
          Starper777
          1. 0
            12 December 2019 23: 24
            I already guessed from the photograph.
          2. 0
            19 December 2019 20: 41
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Starper777

            I'm zer buzzing .. laughing crying
            1. 0
              19 December 2019 20: 42
              Burn Meehan, it’s boring without you! drinks
              1. -1
                19 December 2019 21: 00
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Burn Meehan, it’s boring without you! drinks

                Trying Igor. drinks Here they shoot only aptly heh heh soldier
    4. +4
      11 December 2019 10: 45
      Why are there fewer such people? This is not the merit of the site administration. Those people were not interested and they left, or they left.

      What are you like grandmas at the entrance. Or do you need a closed cabal?
      The site, over the past year, has probably doubled its audience. It means that there is development and people are interested - no one will just go to the trash site, a la Lenta.ru.
      It would be nice, by the end of the year (or at the beginning of the next), the authors to upload statistics on attendance over the past three years.
      1. +8
        11 December 2019 17: 55
        Quote: lucul
        The site, over the past year, has probably doubled its audience. So there is development and people are interested

        --------------------------
        Nobody has yet canceled the manipulation of opinions and the casting of shadows on the fence. Pounding water in a mortar and making money on it now has sharpened many resources.
      2. +3
        11 December 2019 23: 43
        Quote: lucul
        The site, over the past year, has probably doubled its audience. It means that there is development and people are interested - no one will just go to the trash site, a la Lenta.ru.
        It would be nice, by the end of the year (or at the beginning of the next), the authors to upload statistics on attendance over the past three years.

        In my opinion, half a year ago, somewhere here the figure of 20 million visits per month appeared. In three years there will be a lot winked
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  5. +17
    11 December 2019 07: 00
    DD!
    Because we have several sections:
    ,,, even in the sections themselves there are forum users of a narrow orientation, so to speak. And sections need to be divided into subsections laughing

    Olgovich (Andrey) on the history of RI. Whatever the attitude to him in disputes about pre-revolutionary Russia, he defends his point of view with reason, without rudeness and to the end.

    Trilobite Master (Michael) on the history of ancient Russia (and not only), will give odds to many commentators.

    Undecim (Victor) we can say "omnivorous" "electronic archive" Yes Sometimes there is nothing to object to his comments. request

    Dooplet11 (Alexander) weapons → aircraft. According to the characteristics of the aircraft, his specifically specific in-depth comments give him the person who saw the planes not only in the sky. winked
    ,,, here is my opinion Yes in the remaining sections did not take an active part, did not belong, was not involved hi bully
    1. +7
      11 December 2019 07: 07
      Good morning everyone! Sergey, and let me join in. I agree on all points.
    2. +14
      11 December 2019 08: 22
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk would add weapons to the section; his comments on the topic of the Navy are always weighted and reasoned.
    3. +17
      11 December 2019 12: 34
      Quote: bubalik
      Olgovich (Andrey) on the history of the Republic of Ingushetia. Whatever the attitude to him in disputes about pre-revolutionary Russia, he defends his point of view with reason, without rudeness and to the end.

      Unfortunately, I can’t vote for him, because I think that this character is not objective, and does not even try to be one. He has a wealth of knowledge, yes. But he drives this knowledge under his own predilections. He never questions his own point of view, which is completely unacceptable for an objective researcher. He is not trying to get to the bottom of the truth. In addition, in relation to the characters he dislikes (the Bolsheviks and the whole Soviet period of history), he releases completely unacceptable boorish formulations, emphasizing his squeamish and biased attitude. And that would be bearable if it was not about our people, but about some fascists. But in this case we are talking about a significant part of our Russian people. Maybe the actions and beliefs of these people in the modern sense are far from correct, but this does not give us the right to interfere with the dirt. Among these people are our fathers and grandfathers. Many of them were ideological communists. These are their beliefs, and they must be respected, because these are first of all our ancestors and our countrymen.
      1. +8
        11 December 2019 12: 57
        It should be noted that people then in the first few decades of the USSR worked practically for nothing, for the sake of an idea, for the sake of future generations, they really endured all the hardships and hardships, increasing the heritage of their ancestors, and then the nomenclature, stagnation and what we have at the moment ...
      2. +3
        11 December 2019 14: 38
        Quote: Alex_59
        about this knowledge he drives under his own predilections. He never questions his own point of view, which is completely unacceptable for an objective researcher.

        No, not like that: I already had another point of view. Which is under pressure facts , turned into the opposite.
        Quote: Alex_59
        He is not trying to get to the bottom of the truth.

        The truth, of course, is the same for everyone, but for everyone it is different.

        I respectfully accept the objections of any opponent (in normal form) and am always ready to agree with them, but only if they prove to me that I am wrong. I write then: "I'm to blame, I was wrong"
        Quote: Alex_59
        In addition, in relation to the characters he dislikes (the Bolsheviks and the whole Soviet period of history), he releases completely unacceptable boorish formulations, emphasizing his squeamish and biased attitude.

        for example, just from memory? request recourse

        Recall, by the way, the wording of comments on the state power of Russia BEFORE 1917. There you will find wow what! And, is that already normal?
        But she, together with the people, at the very least, built the largest country in the world, they fought in countless wars for it, it was then that our people formed
        Quote: Alex_59
        And that would be bearable if it was not about our people, but about some fascists. But in this case we are talking about a significant part our Russians of people. Maybe the actions and beliefs of these people in the modern sense are far from correct, but this does not give us the right mix them with dirt.

        What are you saying? Our Russian people are holy peoplethe best in the world- regardless of time and ticket.

        The party (any) is NOT obliged to love.
        1. +6
          11 December 2019 15: 10
          Quote: Olgovich
          And, is that already normal?

          This is not the norm, and my proposed candidates for the title of the best commentators did not allow such attacks both in the direction of the tsarist government and in the direction of the Soviet one. That is why I believe that you should not be among the applicants.
          For the remaining comments, I think it does not make sense to continue the debate, so that it does not develop into another srach. If you consider this my refusal to surrender and the lack of arguments - so be it. And I believe that the site admins will judge us.
          1. 0
            11 December 2019 15: 26
            Quote: Alex_59
            This is not the norm, and my proposed candidates for the title of the best commentators did not allow such attacks both in the direction of the tsarist government and in the direction of the Soviet one. That is why I believe that you should not be among the applicants

            And I, just the same, insist on NOT including me in any "applicants". Yes

            Private VO- an honorary title for me.
            Quote: Alex_59
            I think it’s pointless to continue the debate about the remaining comments, so that it does not develop into anotherthe crustacean. If you consider this my refusal to surrender and the lack of arguments - so be it. And I believe that the site admins will judge us.

            I agree with everything, except for the soft sign in the word "srach" Yes
            1. +3
              11 December 2019 15: 35
              Quote: Olgovich
              I agree with everything, except for the soft sign in the word "srach"

              Sorry, typo. I’m writing on my knee.
      3. Alf
        +17
        11 December 2019 18: 45
        Quote: Alex_59
        In addition, in relation to the characters he dislikes (the Bolsheviks and the whole Soviet period of history), he releases completely unacceptable boorish formulations, emphasizing his squeamish and biased attitude.

        So the Caliber (Shpakovsky) does not just sin, but directly gushes.
        Any of his articles can be divided into four parts:
        1. A little bit about the case.
        2. I am the smartest, because I have published many books.
        3. All the rest are stupid, because they have not written books.
        4. The communists are bad because the communists.
        1. +6
          11 December 2019 19: 44
          Quote: Alf
          it does not just sin, but directly gushes.

          ---------------------
          Vasily, today old-timers simply shine with wit. This article and comments on it literally made my day. So many revelations. laughing hi good
          1. Alf
            +4
            11 December 2019 19: 45
            Quote: Altona
            Quote: Alf
            it does not just sin, but directly gushes.

            ---------------------
            Vasily, today old-timers simply shine with wit. This article and comments on it literally made my day. So many revelations. laughing hi good

            Yes, those old-timers are left ... One and a half digger.
            1. +5
              11 December 2019 19: 47
              Quote: Alf
              Yes, those old-timers are left ... One and a half digger.

              --------------
              Well, yes ... You, yes I, yes you and I ... laughing
        2. +5
          12 December 2019 04: 34
          Quote: Alf
          I am the smartest, because I have published many books.

          Here Shpakovsky and need to give a prize. According to the law of Parretto. He is not 20%, he is at one percent. feel
          1. Alf
            +1
            12 December 2019 18: 37
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            He is not 20%, he is at one percent.

            And thank God that one. Bolivar cannot stand two.
    4. +3
      11 December 2019 12: 44
      Colleague, subscribe to your words. hi
  6. +20
    11 December 2019 07: 20
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk Always makes balanced and correct comments on the history of the Navy. If he is mistaken, he always admits, for we are all human. And even disputes with him take place in a constructive manner, without squabbles and on a scientific basis, so to speak.
    1. +6
      11 December 2019 09: 35
      I absolutely agree, and not only in topics about the history of the Navy and shipbuilding. In general, I personally sometimes go to the site in search of new products from Andrei. And the comments are also regarding ...
    2. +10
      11 December 2019 10: 04
      Quote: Alex_59
      Andrey from Chelyabinsk Always makes balanced and correct comments on the story.

      He is generally always correct and polite to match his articles.
      In general, the main nominee on the topic of Armaments. I read his series of articles with pleasure. And the commentator is everywhere excellent.
      Shpakovsky on the topic of History is not bad.
      Analytics is generally bad ... This section is weak compared to Armament and History.
  7. +8
    11 December 2019 07: 32
    Alexey RA - Always thoughtful and adequate comments from which sometimes you can find out a lot of new information, or information guides in order to later unearth a new topic on your own. A man with knowledge of technology.
    1. +3
      11 December 2019 12: 45
      Ava, he only ... doubtful laughing
      1. +3
        11 December 2019 13: 00
        Quote: Okolotochny
        Ava, he only ... doubtful

        And I have? laughing
        1. +3
          11 December 2019 13: 22
          You have ours, .... dear. hi
  8. +15
    11 December 2019 08: 24
    we have a certain number of visitors who love to catch up with ratings and lower others

    Remove the opportunity, opening the list of comments of one user, right there to put ratings for them. Comments of a specific user on topics to seek out and "evaluate" will only want to absolutely frostbitten. This is the way out.
    1. +4
      11 December 2019 11: 53
      Or, as an option, make it possible to track who exactly minuses. Then it is banal to trace the group of the "order of" minus players "and contact the site administration, let them take action.
      1. +5
        11 December 2019 14: 52
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Or, as an option, to make it possible to track who exactly is minus.

        As I understand it, someone has such an opportunity. Otherwise, where would such screenshots come from.
        1. +3
          11 December 2019 14: 53
          Maybe the moderators or site administration?
          1. +2
            11 December 2019 15: 11
            But who knows who the administrator is and who the moderator is.
            Author - Golovan Jack
            Party
            The original is here:
            https://topwar.ru/164864-ocherednoj-zasvet-posejdona.html#comment-id-9868250
            1. +7
              11 December 2019 15: 29
              Quote: u-345
              Author - Golovan Jack

              Right. I received such a picture only once, in support of my "demotion to the rank and file".

              Those interested, from "major general" and above, can try laughing

              So see? wink
              1. +3
                11 December 2019 17: 55
                Sorry, I looked at the screen, but did not understand why you were demoted to the rank and file. You seem not to be there ?!
                1. +2
                  11 December 2019 20: 27
                  Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                  You seem not to be there ?!

                  Paint I'm still a programmer, not a laundress laughing

                  Column "Against" - erased, there are other people. I didn't need it at that moment Yes
            2. +4
              12 December 2019 02: 18
              Quote: u-345
              But who knows who the administrator is and who the moderator is.
              Author - Golovan Jack
              Party
              The original is here:
              https://topwar.ru/164864-ocherednoj-zasvet-posejdona.html#comment-id-9868250

              moderator registered in the profile !!! lol lol lol
          2. +7
            11 December 2019 15: 17
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Maybe the moderators or site administration?

            Exactly.

            By the way, one of the "interest groups" is marked in the picture. In this case, the fans of "Svarog".
            1. +7
              12 December 2019 02: 17
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              By the way, one of the "interest groups" is marked in the picture. In this case, the fans of "Svarog".

              I don’t touch those ... the idea was about minus shakers ... it’s straight pret justice !!! request wassat wassat lol lol lol
          3. 0
            11 December 2019 18: 37
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Maybe the moderators or site administration?

            Some have the opportunity to make changes to the account, and block the normal operation that they experienced on themselves. Together with the administrator, they figured out two days.
            1. -1
              17 December 2019 14: 45
              Please tell me how it was expressed? Did anti-virus work or something else?
              1. 0
                17 December 2019 15: 12
                The VO page has taken on the appearance that I am not authorized on this site. The nickname has changed. I could not write comments. In short hacked.
                1. -1
                  17 December 2019 15: 34
                  Thanks for the info, I'll be in the know. And I did the simplest password (
                  1. 0
                    17 December 2019 22: 47
                    It is also possible with a simple password. Just do not cross the road to influential persons, such as a "programmer". There are such people here.
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      3. +8
        12 December 2019 02: 15
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Or, as an option, make it possible to track who exactly minuses. Then it is banal to trace the group of the "order of" minus players "and contact the site administration, let them take action.

        recourse and at plyusovalschikov some kind of indulgence or something ??? what wassat laughing laughing laughing
        1. +2
          12 December 2019 07: 55
          Well, they probably don’t complain about those!)) laughing
          1. +5
            12 December 2019 16: 00
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Well, they probably don’t complain about those!)) laughing

            and who are the judges ?! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
    2. +7
      11 December 2019 12: 18
      Quote: Geo⁣
      Take away the opportunity by opening a list of comments of one user, right there to put ratings for them.

      Very sensible offer.
      1. +1
        12 December 2019 08: 39
        When my account was hacked, I offered the administrator such an option, but it was rejected.
  9. +3
    11 December 2019 10: 32
    Please tell me what kind of rating and where to see it?
    1. +5
      11 December 2019 13: 04
      In your profile
      1. +4
        11 December 2019 13: 17
        Thanks it turns out there is still a picture you can add
    2. +1
      11 December 2019 15: 19
      Quote: awdrgy
      where to see him

      https://topwar.ru/user/awdrgy/
  10. +2
    11 December 2019 10: 44
    Or maybe in this thread they will write a comment article and win the contest?)))
  11. +10
    11 December 2019 10: 55
    How do we propose to do this?

    In your comments you fill out three points:
    1. Nick on the site.
    2. The section in which the author commented.
    3. Why and how you liked the author (3-6 sentences, brief description).
    According to the scheme proposed by the editors, I did not find anything like this in the comments already made, no three points. Is a new poll supposed, which I did not catch, or is the editorial initiative doomed from the outset under such conditions? Probably, any opinion of "readers" will be subjective, will not give an objective picture. In my opinion, the editorial board itself should propose applicants for these points, and the rest would have voted or already added. Also, personally, I would like to see a clear difference where is "Armament" and where is "History", which fits in the section "Opinion", that in "Analytics".

    Speaking about comments, you need to distinguish between a direct comment on an article and a comment on a comment. In any case, argumentation is important, both in terms of supplementation and objection.
    1. +3
      11 December 2019 11: 29
      Quote: Per se.
      According to the scheme proposed by the editors, I did not find anything similar in the comments that have already taken place, no three points


      Well, yes, apparently, a very difficult task turned out. Can not in three points.

      Quote: Per se.
      A new poll is supposed, which I did not catch, or is the editorial initiative initially doomed under such conditions?


      I think somehow dodge. There will be no new poll, just choose what people write. The main thing here is that they express themselves on the topic, rather than whining as if everything is bad.

      Quote: Per se.
      Probably, any opinion of "readers" will be subjective, will not give an objective picture.


      To a certain degree. But nevertheless, it will be an opinion. The man said, for example, about Andrey from Chelyabinsk. It is a little incorrect, Andrey is still the author, although he is also a commentator. Why not? This statement is supported by "pluses" by 6 more people, for example. That is, already seven. Subjectively? In my opinion, no.

      Quote: Per se.
      the editorial office itself should propose applicants on these points, while the rest would vote or have already supplemented.


      Well, no, it's the readers choice, not the editorial board. If we wanted to choose for ourselves, we would have done so, and we would have no need for additions. The question here is exactly what those who read should choose.
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        1. +13
          11 December 2019 12: 32
          Quote: Altona
          Vitalik for many years of hard visit to the site, we cast our vote.

          The VO administration could mark Vitaly with a message to him, by means of a personal, a login and password to enter the profile "Mikhan" (https://topwar.ru/user/MIKHAN/) which has already been taken out of the ban a long time ago, but Vitaly is not used, for a reason forgetfulness because of the constant occupation of his thoughts with thoughts about Russia!

          1. Nickname on the site - "MIKHAN"
          2. The section in which the author commented - "Opinion"
          3. Why and how you liked the author (3-6 sentences, brief description).
          Mysterious Russian soul…
          What could be more generous and richer?
          Laughs heartily, crying, crying miserably:
          Is there money or not a penny.

          With a hole in your pocket
          She sings, walks, plays tricks.
          A heart particle in grams weighs little,
          But the whole world will open before you.

          Mysterious Russian soul…
          He knows how to be sad, tearfully, quietly.
          It happens weak, little coward
          And the body is warming, barely breathing.

          And it can take off in full breadth,
          Free song pour in the open,
          Raging like a stormy sea
          And to be calm, affectionate, like calm.

          Mysterious Russian soul…
          There is nothing dearer, sweeter in the world
          She, like a beacon, shines in the fog.
          Mysterious Russian soul.

          For Mikhan! good
          1. +6
            12 December 2019 02: 30
            Quote: Dym71
            but Vitaliy is not used, due to forgetfulness

            if Meehan is at least slightly friends with the browser settings, let him look for the username and password in the "Passwords and Cards" section (this is in the Yandex browser) !!! request soldier soldier soldier
          2. -1
            19 December 2019 20: 48
            Quote: Dym71
            The VO administration could mark Vitaly with a message to him, by means of a personal, a login and password to enter the profile "Mikhan" (https://topwar.ru/user/MIKHAN/) which has already been taken out of the ban a long time ago, but Vitaly is not used, for a reason forgetfulness because of the constant occupation of his thoughts with thoughts about Russia!

            I’m blocked there forever .. And in general, even the word and association with the nickname MIKHAN is strictly forbidden ..! Checked more than once and not two
            so don’t touch my soul men and so my heart is weak. he he
            I’m so comfortable with everything that I’ve got used to for an illegal queen for five years ..
            Who knows, they know ... that's enough for me!
            Once again he burned))))
          3. -2
            20 December 2019 19: 21
            Quote: Dym71
            Quote: Altona
            Vitalik for many years of hard visit to the site, we cast our vote.

            The VO administration could mark Vitaly with a message to him, by means of a personal, a login and password to enter the profile "Mikhan" (https://topwar.ru/user/MIKHAN/) which has already been taken out of the ban a long time ago, but Vitaly is not used, for a reason forgetfulness because of the constant occupation of his thoughts with thoughts about Russia!

            1. Nickname on the site - "MIKHAN"
            2. The section in which the author commented - "Opinion"
            3. Why and how you liked the author (3-6 sentences, brief description).
            Mysterious Russian soul…
            What could be more generous and richer?
            Laughs heartily, crying, crying miserably:
            Is there money or not a penny.

            With a hole in your pocket
            She sings, walks, plays tricks.
            A heart particle in grams weighs little,
            But the whole world will open before you.

            Mysterious Russian soul…
            He knows how to be sad, tearfully, quietly.
            It happens weak, little coward
            And the body is warming, barely breathing.

            And it can take off in full breadth,
            Free song pour in the open,
            Raging like a stormy sea
            And to be calm, affectionate, like calm.

            Mysterious Russian soul…
            There is nothing dearer, sweeter in the world
            She, like a beacon, shines in the fog.
            Mysterious Russian soul.

            For Mikhan! good

            Straight to tears and a lump in my throat .. crying Thank you guys! hi
            While the patient’s heart is beating, I am with you for Russia! ..And hell is not my brother!
    2. +4
      12 December 2019 02: 25
      Quote: Per se.
      A new poll is supposed, which I did not catch, or is the editorial initiative initially doomed under such conditions?

      lol lol good good good
      Quote: Per se.
      In my opinion, the editors themselves should propose applicants on these points, while the rest would vote or have already supplemented.

      it will be too subjective, taking into account which side the topvar revealed during the presidential campaign !!! wink laughing laughing
  12. +4
    11 December 2019 11: 20
    Good start-in a good way !. But immediately the question on the regulation is (in the absence of any doubt, a quote), Can I announce what exactly is the doubt for you? And then I constantly fly into the ban due to the fault of one (one) hz the admin of your site according to the absolutely personal preferences of this admin. So tell us what exactly will be doubtful for you. And then it is unfair and biased looks. Although the idea is really gorgeous.
  13. +10
    11 December 2019 12: 25
    1. Nick on the site.
    2. The section in which the author commented.
    3. Why and how did you like the author (3

    1. Alexey R.A.

    2. History.

    3. Encyclopedic knowledge, powerful "impenetrable" argumentation, calm and balanced assessment of articles and comments, an interesting conversationalist.

    2.1 bubalik

    2.2 History

    3.3 Unusual comments: as a rule, these are interesting ORIGINAL sources: documents, photographs, maps, in the form of scans from real carriers. Where does he get them? recourse
    In addition, bubalik - Sergey, like me, on the morning of January 1 of the New Year -sober and eat cake. Yes

    ps 1 Since there was an opportunity to speak out, I would like to urge everyone to be more tolerant and respectful of each other, to discuss the topics of articles, and not the qualities of opponents, to cite documents as arguments, not emotions.

    ps 2. But the editors of VO want to say BIG THANKS for their work: best site (orientation, authors, tools), as I did not search, I did not find it! Yes

    Yes, and we all, I think, often read / understand-oooohogo and angelic patience must have ..........
    Yes
  14. +3
    11 December 2019 12: 38
    1.aktoR
    2. Opinions
    3. capacious and accurate comments, citing the mass of primary sources.
  15. +2
    11 December 2019 12: 42
    To spite everyone, I want to name three people worthy of the promotion of the Opus website, Kaptsov, and Andrey from Chelyabinsk! Maybe the site administration will separately encourage them?
  16. +18
    11 December 2019 13: 03
    I don’t know why to fence a garden with the definition of nominees, discussions, etc.
    Do you want to know the commentator of the year according to users - divide the rating points scored during the year by the number of comments (who has it at least, say, a hundred or two, three, at the discretion), which is easier? The average mark for a comment is objective and impartial. The top ten results are in the studio.
    Plus, I would also introduce the "Comment of the Year" nomination, i.e. the comment with the highest positive rating on the plus or minus system. Naturally, the comment itself should be quoted.
    I also propose to introduce the nominations "Most Popular Commentator" and "Most Popular Commentary", where the assessment will be carried out by adding the pros and cons, i.e. if the comment received five pluses and three minuses, then it receives eight points under this system. Naturally, also take the arithmetic mean of the commentators and the absolute value of the comments. It would be interesting to see the results.
    The same can be done with authors - nominations "Author of the Year" and "Most Popular Author". Author of the Year - Average number of pluses per article. Most Popular Author - Average number of views per article. There are not many authors, so you can consider all of them.
    Divided into sections ... Well, it is also possible, of course, but this is, in my opinion, delights. We need an absolute champion! good
    And what is being offered here and now is some kind of democracy. wassat So only the president can be chosen, and not engage in serious affairs. smile
    1. +3
      11 December 2019 19: 20
      The average mark for a comment is objective and impartial.


      Yes, yes ... "Professor" with "Voyaka" is not to be envied. Although there were in history Giordano Bruno and Copernicus. They were treated objectively, and mind you - also by a majority vote laughing It is a pity, the "professor" is not the same. The teeth must have fallen out. And Atalefa is not.
      They started nonsense, gentlemen, administrators. And the quality of "comments" has become thinner.
      1. +4
        11 December 2019 20: 09
        Quote: dauria
        Nonsense started, gentlemen admins.

        In general, yes.
        But I wonder how it all ends - who will choose. I would like to know who we have an informal leader ... laughing
        1. +5
          12 December 2019 02: 34
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          But I wonder how it all ends - who will choose. I would like to know who we have an informal leader ...

          who is the hardest and most aggressive to water the current government with a known substance and everything connected with it !!! wink wassat wassat wassat
    2. 0
      19 December 2019 02: 11
      All this is useless because the tops will be occupied by small comments with slogans and without useful information, and it would often be unrealistic to count sometimes it happened that one topic was spread over several articles with many branches, for example, this was with ships, tanks and aircraft with VVPZ (this is what I personally remembered, so there are more such cases). In general, comments are in principle unsuitable for adequate discussion (there are forums for this).
  17. +9
    11 December 2019 13: 36
    Another five cents to the transparency of the regulation - already in the discussion of this article can everyone see a long strip (comment deleted) in connection with this question? Who was deleted and what was there (flood and insults personally to commentators and site admins or the next deletion of a comment as not fitting into the worldview of a particular admin who deleted this comment? But what if this erased comment would have gained a lot of pluses from the erased comment agree with the author? How about this to be?
    And yet, what to do with some commentators who constantly sit and write comments, but there is nothing in them from the commentator’s own position, but only ctrl c ctrl v quotes from other sites with the same semantic errors of machine translation of the original? And from such a commentator at best, a couple of phrases from the series himself? And according to the rules, such a person has many times more chances to get a prize because he often writes and seems to be on business, but in fact it’s not him but someone else from the network?
    1. +4
      11 December 2019 19: 06
      Quote: evgen1221
      often writes and it seems to be the case, but in fact it’s not him, but someone else from the network?

      For me, it’s more informative and meaningful to read a short and concise commentary, with confirmation from online information, rather than a long and empty set of words. Figures and facts are the best arguments for confirming your opinion and refuting another.
      1. +3
        11 December 2019 19: 28
        So yes, I agree with you. But as they say, there are some nuances in relation to the initiative being discussed, and regarding the copies of quotes themselves, starting with the fact that on the network, if you wish, you can find a logically sound opinion confirming both for and against any fact, and ending with the question of the personal opinion of such authors, links I don’t need to post a lot of mind and education on this subject, and there are questions for some xeroxes. And in essence of your answer, I absolutely agree, brevity and conciseness in the matter is an extremely useful trait of a person’s character. It’s often necessary to write a lot of text so that the subscriber understands without discrepancies what they want to tell him about, and this is not bad and not good, it is a given.
  18. +8
    11 December 2019 14: 28
    I am for Michman.
    Feels like "Bison" Graninsky.
    Such people have something to be proud of and have something to say. They have something to read / listen to. Often, besides them, no one else will tell some important facts.
    He once rode on a train with his peer - a former driver S.P. Korolev, who later went to science himself and has long been working as the Chief for telemetry systems, got hooked in Plesetsk. We drove like that for a day - but I didn’t want to leave, I would listen and listen!
    That's how our Yuri Grigorievich (Warrant Officer) is somehow ... Although he is the same "warrant officer" like Tsar Peter - "bombardier".
  19. +10
    11 December 2019 14: 45
    I'm the best)))))
    1. +8
      11 December 2019 19: 43
      This is a turn! .. There is no reason to disagree. love
    2. +4
      11 December 2019 20: 56
      And nobody argues ...
    3. +6
      12 December 2019 02: 41
      Quote: Nastia Makarova
      I'm the best)))))

      still more clearly the photo !!! feel good love love love
  20. +4
    11 December 2019 14: 58
    Well, well .. You clean up objectionable comments, which turns fair and objective refereeing into “honest and objective” refereeing. Therefore, personally, I do not believe you.
    1. -1
      11 December 2019 15: 15
      Quote: Svetlana
      Well, well .. You are cleaning up unwanted comments

      Not objectionable, but violating the rules of the site - https://topwar.ru/rules.html
      Naturally, there are mistakes and at the same time I consider it necessary to add that the VO administration responds promptly and adequately to requests addressed to me, I write about this not by hearsay, but based on personal experience.
      Quote: Svetlana
      honest and objective "refereeing becomes" fair and objective "refereeing

      And you yourself try to start with the argumentation of your opinion, and do not throw empty presentations. hi
      1. +5
        11 December 2019 15: 30
        >> do not throw empty presentations
        Do you propose to make remote komenty and drugs on public display and discussion?
        1. -2
          11 December 2019 15: 39
          Quote: Svetlana
          Do you propose to make remote komenty and drugs on public display and discussion?

          This is an extreme measure, and you can start with how you gained confidence in the bias in relation to the site administration, I’m sure it won’t go to extremes. hi
          1. +4
            11 December 2019 16: 21
            This is an extreme measure, but you can start with how you gained confidence in the bias in relation to the site administration, I’m sure it won’t go to extremes

            Without fasting and drugs, all this is just a transfusion from empty to empty. And a discussion of personalities.
  21. +9
    11 December 2019 16: 23
    It's an interesting idea, but I usually don't have the habit of memorizing or writing down the authors of the comments that interest me. Yes, there are individuals who, due to the abundance of comments, are kept in memory, as for example (no offense, purely for example): Golovan Jack, Svarog, Olgovich, Gardamir, Sylvester. But this does not mean that their comments are among the "best" in my opinion. And to shovel the site in search of the author, whose comment "sunk into the soul" ... I think it would be more honest on my part to stand on the sidelines and see who the people choose hi
    1. +7
      11 December 2019 18: 29
      And I `` sunk into my soul '' Lipchanin and not comments, but their number about anything, but about everything.
      For a long time the truth has not been heard ...
  22. +5
    11 December 2019 16: 59
    1. Trilobite master (Michael)
    2. Story
    3. Excellent knowledge of history. Interesting and informative comments, often more interesting than the article itself. Politeness, decency.
  23. +4
    11 December 2019 17: 39
    Oleg Kaptsov
  24. -2
    11 December 2019 18: 53
    1. OLGOVICH (Andrey)
    2.History
    3.Russian patriot, scholar, hates Soviet Russophobia.
  25. +10
    11 December 2019 21: 05
    I have several nominees for the military branches.

    1. Artillery
    1. Shovels (Shovels)
    2. News, Opinions, Analytics, Armaments
    3. Familiar with both domestic types of mortars, self-propelled guns, self-propelled guns, MLRS, and with imported samples. Well familiar not only with the performance characteristics, but also with the tactics of use. He fought.

    2. Air Defense
    1. Nikolaevich I (Vladimir)
    2. News, Opinions, Analytics, Armaments
    3. Encyclopedic knowledge about different types of military and technical equipment. Just the last time I saw him in the topic about the Torah-M2. Able to cheer up not only the interlocutor, but also the reader.

    3. Strategic Missile Forces, strategic nuclear forces (Nuclear Triad)
    1. Old26 (Vladimir)
    2. News, Opinions, Analytics, Armaments
    3. Everyone who read his comments can confirm the level of his knowledge.

    4. Aviation
    1. As many as two applicants: NN52 (Dmitry), dauria (Alex)
    2. News, Opinions, Analytics, Armaments
    3. In the event of an incident with military aircraft in Russia from NN52, we always usually find out the final and, alas, not a comforting verdict in the event of the death of pilots. And, of course, his opinion for me is decisive in any discussion of MiG aircraft.
    dauria, in turn, is well acquainted with the Iranian Air Force, with the capabilities of its aircraft manufacturing and not only industry. Both are military pilots, with Alexei the son followed in the footsteps of his father.

    5. Tanks
    1.svp67 (Sergey)
    2. News, Opinions, Analytics, Armaments
    3. Well acquainted with all models of Soviet and Russian tanks, anti-tank weapons. Much of his opinion can be relied on.

    6. The fleet. Surface ships
    1. Aristarkh Ludwigovich
    2. News, Opinions, Analytics, Armaments
    3. Well versed in the current state and the near future of the NK of the Russian fleet. Recently I became an author at VO, with which I congratulate him.

    7. Fleet. Submarines.
    1.rudolff
    2. News, Opinions, Analytics, Armaments
    3. The participant who is known to me who actually went to autonomous duty on combat duty in a nuclear submarine. I try to listen to his opinion.

    1. I apologize both to the organizers of the survey (for changing the format) and to worthy participants, whose names I did not mention - although I could, I have a good memory.
    2. Most of the people I mentioned are career officers and write only about what they know. I did not see them in discussions about domestic politics and the Russian economy, but I try not to participate in them myself.
    3. Soon, apparently, generals of the army (and above) will appear on the site, "earning" hundreds of plus signs per day on politot, but have never had any relationship with the army and security services (maximum - conscription).

    I think the most unpopular commentator of this year: Saboteur Holuay (formerly Theme of the MTR (Theme of the MTR), Samara_63 (Vasya)) - rating: -68893. https://topwar.ru/user/Diversant+Holuay/
    1. +1
      12 December 2019 21: 10
      There are two more specialists in the tanks - Alex TV and Kars. Both unfortunately have not been seen for a long time.
      The story liked the comments by Wenda.
      The fleet is the best Andrei from Chelyayuinsk.
      I also like Dauria's comments.
      There are many good and competent, but unfortunately there are more trolls who are at work.
    2. +4
      13 December 2019 15: 20
      svp67 (Sergey) - absolutely incompetent in all matters except tanks. But for some reason he writes everywhere and leaves the impression of a very stupid person, which makes young people laugh and makes the old people angry ... He clearly deserves not encouragement, but condemnation for omnipresence!
      I also propose to leave him the position of "moderator" only for the section tanks. And it is better not to let him loose there.
  26. +2
    11 December 2019 21: 31
    I fully agree with you! The initiative is good!
  27. +1
    12 December 2019 07: 27
    I suggest "Andrey from Chelyabinsk" he had an interesting topic about the USSR, but it seems he was not allowed to develop it, which is a pity.
  28. +6
    12 December 2019 09: 35
    Dear VO site administration!
    I will explain why people leave - experts in their field, professionals, among other things, and as a result of high education who own a literary style. That is, those who are interesting to read.
    After all, why did they come to the site? Show how smart they are, knowing? Catch a fraction of the glory among people unfamiliar with them in reality and unfamiliar with each other?
    Нет!
    They came to the site and spent precious time of their lives on comments in order to change something in a positive way in our common. But, making sure that the authorities heard them, but did not listen, they left. And to be interesting and necessary is enough within the boundaries of direct contact with reality.
    Putin clearly and clearly indicated that there would be no review of the results of privatization. Hence all our troubles and misfortunes. Therefore, no matter what we say here, in VO, everything is useless. And useful people will not be wasting their time. There is no feedback from the authorities and, it seems, will no longer be. So why strum?
    Yes, and I would also like to add. Criticizing unjust power, patriotic people are forced to defend its actions in foreign policy. Cognitive dissonance arises. It’s hard to live in this state.
  29. +4
    12 December 2019 11: 48
    I have a counter offer
    Publish a weekly, or at least monthly review of posts that have scored the maximum plus sign in ratings
    There is a rating system, it is actively used, not to be lost in the results, why not show clearly which comments are most successful
    In any case, this will be a clear illustration of the preferences and views existing among the participants in the system.
    As an option, select separately the three most effective comments from different sections
    This will be an open and clear analysis, otherwise why do we need a rating system if the best comment needs to be selected manually?

    And specifically on the topic, I would call Undecim's Best Comments
    Comments are always very informative, the style is correct, but not dry
    1. +4
      12 December 2019 12: 52
      Avior, support.
      But who is Undecium? In my memory, a nick flashed only once. Please explain if this does not bother you. In the future I will pay attention to his comments. However, on topics of interest to me I read all the posts.
      By the way. Once I read a forum under an old topic posted on VO, it seems, for 2012 - one of those that are offered in additions to the main one. There was a man there, the one who, it seems to me, now goes under the nickname "Tatar". So, the forum amazed me with a huge number of grammatical and syntax errors, the rudeness and offensiveness of the posts, the lack of at least some factual arguments. Because I do not understand the cry of some forum users about the past, "hot" times in VO, a kind of nostalgia. However, I have been at VO for only a year, perhaps I have missed a lot.
      1. +2
        12 December 2019 21: 12
        Quote: depressant
        But who is Undecium?

        A person basically writes in the weapons section. hi
      2. +1
        12 December 2019 23: 50
        There is such a Lyudmila Yakovlevna, only with an Undecim account: https://topwar.ru/user/Undecim/
        You can read his comments, click on the number in his profile by the link I gave.
    2. 0
      13 December 2019 10: 49
      Quote: Avior
      Publish a weekly, or at least monthly review of posts that have scored the maximum plus sign in ratings

      I would expand: "typed, in total maximum number of pluses and minus signs "
  30. +3
    12 December 2019 15: 20
    Aviation:
    Ancient
    Fleet:
    Rudolph, Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    Artillery:
    Lopatov (special thanks for the educational program on personal requests)
    Tank forces:
    svp67
    Aleks tv

    Armed forces in general, including other states:
    Donavi49
    Altona
    Ascetic
    Undecim

    The above commentators are mostly practitioners, but I am very impressed by the articles and comments. Andrey from Chelyabinsk and erudition Undecim.
    Unfortunately, many rarely now appear or have disappeared altogether, but I can’t help but recall Kars, Vadivak .
    Interesting opinions and outlook of colleagues from other countries, such as, for example, Professors or voyaka uh.
    Well Meehan, in his reincarnations, but he is in each of us wassat , especially if you watch Channel 1 and the Star Channel for a long time drinks
  31. +1
    12 December 2019 21: 44
    Good evening everyone!

    My list. I want to note right away that the assigned numbering does not have a ranking goal, I just put down numbers for ease of perception and understanding when I should stop)))

    1. Andrey from Chelyabinsk. Historical excursions and fleet. Clear and substantiated articles, attention to detail, reasonable arguments.
    2. Bongo. Everything related to air defense. Knowledge of equipment and technology, a deep analysis of the topic. Completed loops.
    3. NM52. Aviation. Understanding and rooting for aviation, as they say, there are no former pilots. Very competent comments and ratings.
    4. Bober1982. Aviation.
    5. Pete Mitchell. Aviation.
    6. Donavia. Aviation.
    7. Rudolff. Submarine fleet. He says essentially a submariner, his opinions are priceless.
    8. Old 26. Strategic Rocket Forces. For me, his comments opened that side of the issue, which was not even thought of.
    9. Shovels. Artillery. Professionals always stand out.
    10. svp67. Armored vehicles.
    11. Aristarkh Ludwigovich. Construction, shipyards. Very rare photos sometimes spread)))
    12. voyaka uh. Interesting views on us from the “side” and at the same time remain within the bounds of decency. Disputes are pleasant with him, in which everyone remains within the bounds of decency.

    You can still list a lot of people, but more, probably, is not required, and so violated the rules prescribed for the presentation of the best.)))
    All good!
  32. -2
    19 December 2019 20: 26
    I am for Aron and Professor .. !!!! hi
    When they comment, people always rush, even the site freezes .. hehe

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