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“He has a different natural biomechanics”: Zelensky spoke about Putin and the gas talks

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It became known about the agreements reached on gas transit between the Russian and Ukrainian sides in Paris. Recall that the so-called Norman summit was held in the French capital, in addition to the heads of state, very large delegations participated. These delegations included representatives of energy departments and companies of the two countries.


According to Vladimir Zelensky, at a meeting with the Russian president, issues of “compensation by Gazprom in the amount of 3 billion dollars” were discussed. In Ukraine, they claim that this compensation was allegedly “awarded” by the Stockholm arbitration.

Zelensky said, "as it seemed to him," the question regarding 3 billion dollars, "which Ukraine won," is removed.

President of Ukraine:

We are ready to take gas. This is the compromise we are ready to make.

Further, the Ukrainian president said that gas transit through Ukraine would continue after January 1 2020. Moreover, according to Zelensky, the contract "will be concluded for more than one year."

The conversation between Putin and Zelensky lasted about an hour, although initially it was allotted about 20 minutes. Then a general press conference was held.

Zelensky about Putin:

It’s difficult to negotiate with him, but there were moments when we agreed. He parses every question into details. And we have settled every word. It's complicated. I am a different person: once and once - and agreed. And he has another natural biomechanics.

Against this background, activists in Kiev announced that they were "curtailing the camp on the Maidan and on Bankovaya, since Zelensky did not cross the marked" red lines ".
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  1. GRF
    GRF 10 December 2019 06: 13
    +7
    let's wait ...
    let's see ...
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 10 December 2019 06: 19
      +31
      I think that when the pipe is empty and they begin to disassemble it, it will be much easier to negotiate on gas and debt, time does not work on Ze.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 10 December 2019 06: 39
        +35
        The pipe is still needed. And workable. We close the pipe, it will collapse ... But really the Germans will not seize the moment? Then THEY will become monopolists in the transit of Russian gas to Europe !!! And how to deal with them then? The alternative route must be kept in the "smolder" mode, well, so that the eggs do not lie in one basket.
        1. bessmertniy
          bessmertniy 10 December 2019 06: 46
          +16
          I think that Gazprom will no longer spoil Ukraine especially strongly in transit. Since the partner is problematic, preferences will be given to more profitable options.
          1. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 10 December 2019 06: 49
            +9
            Quote: bessmertniy
            Gazprom will not spoil Ukraine in transit

            I also meant it. Do not pamper at any time, but the OPPORTUNITY to save. So that the "partners" behave in moderation.
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 10 December 2019 07: 33
              +9
              he has another natural biomechanics

              And the grenades he has the wrong system ...
              laughing
              1. Vladimir16
                Vladimir16 10 December 2019 08: 44
                +18
                And he has another natural biomechanics.

                Something a lot recently zoologists divorced. Posner, Zelensky ...
                It’s good that Putin is different.
                Posner, said that he as a zoologist wassat sees around 10 percent of buggers.

                It is good that Putin is not with Posner and not Zelensky in these ten percent.

                That's why, Zelensky, Putin has a different natural biomechanics.

                Putin is the way God invented him. He’s a man. Uncle with Faberge.

                And you stay at "ten percent". laughing
                1. Cherry
                  Cherry 10 December 2019 10: 37
                  +2
                  Moreover, with steel Faberge, and not with what kind of pants and trinkets.
                2. dSK
                  dSK 10 December 2019 11: 21
                  -1
                  Quote: Vladimir16
                  Putin is the way God invented him. He’s a man. Uncle with Faberge.
                  He is real Orthodox not an atheist.
              2. Amin_vivec
                Amin_vivec 10 December 2019 21: 41
                0
                “He analyzes every question into details. And we have settled every word” - Monika Zelinskaya is used to the comedy genre, where every phrase is ambiguous, and then interpret it as you want. It didn't work.
          2. antivirus
            antivirus 10 December 2019 10: 48
            +5
            here and see whose eggs are cooler.
            PRESENT THE IDEA - TO ADOPT THE FZ "ON COUNTERING THE GEROIZATION OF FASCISM AND THEIR ASSOCIATORS" - with economic sanctions against the "heroizers" countries.
            The foreign trade of the Russian Federation should serve the interests of the people who have defeated FASCISM. And against the hangers-on, including Bandera.
            Let them go to the EU to trade and so on, and the tax on "compensation to victims of fascism and their accomplices", which the Russian Federation recognizes as such, should be levied from the supplies of all countries to and from Russia to the sanctioned countries.
          3. Amin_vivec
            Amin_vivec 10 December 2019 21: 46
            0
            Putin talks about cost-effective transit. And for the benefit, try to compete with SP2 and UP - can Ukrainians offer competitive conditions?))) But there is still Belarusian transit, about which little is said ...
        2. Pessimist22
          Pessimist22 10 December 2019 06: 47
          +11
          They will be the monopolists and the Turks, the Ukrainian pipe is essentially no longer needed, two branches of Sp2 and TP are quite enough for Europe, but Europe does not want to pay Ukraine and two billion is a decent amount and thousands of jobs will be lost, so Pu is playing a game with them like transit must be continued, but on new conditions, it’s kind of like a sign of courtesy to Europe and the non-brothers.
          1. antivirus
            antivirus 10 December 2019 10: 51
            0
            Are you a pessimist !, and believe in a "cunning plan"?
            1. Pessimist22
              Pessimist22 10 December 2019 12: 32
              +2
              A pessimist is a well-informed optimist.
          2. Lelek
            Lelek 10 December 2019 12: 43
            +1
            Quote: Pessimist22
            ...therefore, Pu and leads a game like transit with them must continue, but under new conditions...

            hi
            We must think (IMHO) that one of the conditions of Gazprom, voiced by Putin, was - the calculation for the gas delivered by Russia to Europe for Russian border control station with the former Ukraine. But this issue is more related to the EU since then it should pay for the transit (EU). For Ukraine, the situation with gas is becoming even more complicated and (finally gave birth) to the decision of Bulgaria to join the TP pipe.
            1. Brturin
              Brturin 10 December 2019 13: 36
              +2
              Quote: Lelek
              Bulgaria’s decision to join the TP pipe.

              From January 1, this accession will allow gas to be supplied to Bulgaria, Greece itself and what is now called Northern Macedonia, but the laying of pipes to the border with Serbia will be completed only by May 31. The fact that the Bulgarians dragged on this did not go away .... Now it’s more interesting what will happen with the reverse of the Trans-Balkan gas pipeline, the Romanians and the Bulgarians have already announced a tender for booking power ...
        3. Flooding
          Flooding 10 December 2019 08: 05
          +4
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          The pipe is still needed. And workable.

          I agree. One of the elements of Ukraine’s dependence on Russia. Although it is not yet possible to brag about the fact that this fact was skillfully used by the Russian side.
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            1. antivirus
              antivirus 10 December 2019 13: 41
              -1
              I’m many times - in SP and SP2, Russians in special spacesuits (in a gas environment) will transfer GRU special forces to Berlin and Hamburg.
              overpowered ... and the United States will not save Europe from the Buryat horsemen
        4. Machito
          Machito 10 December 2019 09: 01
          +3
          The pipe is useful in any case: either for gas, or for scrap metal, or for emigration to the European Union.
        5. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 10 December 2019 09: 35
          +9
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Isn’t the Germans taking advantage of the moment? Then they will become the monopolists for the transit of Russian gas to Europe !!! And how to deal with them then?

          Reducing the pumped volume of gas, reducing the gas pressure in the pipe. And who generally draws up international commercial contracts ?! It seems that crowds of lawyers and accountants have been learning at least 20 years of age, and competently drawing up a contract, without harming oneself, is weak Oh ?! What turns out - any country that does not like the position of Russia goes to international courts and claims are constantly won, but pay the people ?! What nonsense ?! Again, Bulgaria and the South Stream! Was there a contract? Why the Bulgarians do not comply and do not pay penalties for failure to comply ?!
          In short, everything is turned upside down!
          1. Brturin
            Brturin 10 December 2019 13: 12
            +1
            Quote: Starover_Z
            Again, Bulgaria and the South Stream! Was there a contract? Why the Bulgarians do not comply and do not pay penalties for failure to comply ?!

            Gazprom will not have to demand compensation from Bulgaria for the cancellation of the South Stream gas pipeline project, according to a statement issued by the European Commission following the settlement of the EC's antitrust investigation against Gazprom. Lawyers no matter how powerless they are if politics interferes ...
        6. Lelek
          Lelek 10 December 2019 12: 26
          +2
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          The alternative route must be kept in the "smolder" mode, well, so that the eggs do not lie in one basket.

          hi , Eugene.
          An alternative project offers Novak:
      2. 210ox
        210ox 10 December 2019 07: 52
        +10
        The pipe will not empty. Cheeks have only been guessing for a year in Gazprom and on sites. Who wants to lose the loot. And patriotism, principles and the history of relationships can be shoved away.
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 10 December 2019 08: 07
          +2
          Quote: 210ox
          The pipe will not empty. Cheeks have only been guessing for a year in Gazprom and on sites.

          It's not just about money. Losing is always easier than finding. The gas pipeline has also become one of the elements of politics. Are you sure that Russia's position in the Russian-Ukrainian dispute is so strong that you can abandon it overnight?
      3. New Year day
        New Year day 10 December 2019 10: 17
        +5
        Quote: Pessimist22
        I think that when the pipe is empty and they begin to disassemble it, it will be much easier to negotiate on gas and debt, time does not work on Ze.

        The EU has calculated that even if Ukrainian transit is completely closed in 2020, only Romania, Bulgaria and Greece will suffer. Moreover, they will suffer very moderately - the price of gas in these countries will rise by 5-10%.
        Europe, after supply disruptions in 2006 and 2009, upgraded its energy system by building a powerful infrastructure for LNG reception, and this fall filled underground gas storages to the eyeballs.
        In fact, Europeans have been pursuing a line of complete independence from Russian supplies for at least 10 years. The European energy system allows you to transfer energy in various directions. Plus - widely uses energy saving technologies. Gradually, this system will become completely closed. And then the Ukrainian transit will become Europe not needed at all.
        Europe needs transit through Ukraine only as an instrument of influence. As long as transit exists, Europeans have all the trump cards in their hands. In fact, both the Ukrainian pipe and Nord Stream-2 play the role of a backup infrastructure for them, allowing us not only to keep us hooked by the Third Energy Package rules and arbitration decisions, but also provide an excellent opportunity for trading with LNG suppliers
    2. Civil
      Civil 10 December 2019 06: 47
      +9
      Quote: GRF
      let's wait ...
      let's see ...

      What to wait for?
      1. Gas transit will continue in a year.
      2. For lost courts - Gazprom will give gas.
      3. Russia will not transfer control of the border.
      4. Ukraine does not recognize the election.
      5. Transnistria 2.
      1. GRF
        GRF 10 December 2019 07: 06
        -11
        probably it’s boring to live when you know everything ... (by the way, not the whole list has been announced)

        I personally wonder if the population of Russians in the Donbass will decrease
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 10 December 2019 10: 26
          +6
          Quote: GRF
          I personally wonder if the population of Russians in the Donbass will decrease

          The population of animals. The word is applicable to people - population and number.
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            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 10 December 2019 12: 15
              +2
              Quote: GRF
              you explain this to civilized homosexuals ..

              So I explain to "homosapens" that it is incorrect to apply the word population to Russian people. The correct options are "Russian population" or "number of Russians". You still apply the "habitat".
              Quote: GRF
              and preferably not in Russian ...

              On mov or what?
              1. GRF
                GRF 10 December 2019 14: 07
                -3
                Why are you, referring to me "homosapiens" in quotes? do you want to do it? I, to the extent of my depravity, try to understand the meaning.
                and words like ok do not bother you online? in vain, they will be used, one of the reasons is shorter

                please do not reply to this automatically generated message.
      2. nikolai.kolya
        nikolai.kolya 10 December 2019 10: 32
        -2
        Yes. Donbass in the current situation for a long time ....
        For that fought for it and ran..
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    3. Paul Siebert
      Paul Siebert 10 December 2019 10: 16
      +6
      Yes - different biomechanics ...
      "Once, once - and agreed ..."
      Great approach ...
      Once, once - and the main square of Kiev in the blood.
      Once, once - and Crimea is no longer part of the state.
      One, one - and the bombing of the Donbass, the war for five years ...
      Bullied these cyborgs and androids with Svidomo biomechanics.
  2. Obstacle
    Obstacle 10 December 2019 06: 19
    +6
    Is Nelokh from the booth already versed in biomechanics? Maybe it's himself - "of the wrong breed" ...
    1. GRF
      GRF 10 December 2019 06: 20
      +4
      as if not "bam bam yes by" ...
      the terminator is straight however ...
      but maybe the straw? )
    2. Gunxnumx
      Gunxnumx 10 December 2019 07: 39
      +1
      Trump, and some of the media behind him, loved to talk about some kind of "chemistry" in the relationship. Soon, with such a dynamic of hatred and hysteria in Ukrainian society, any relationship with Ukrainians will become "toxic")). Although all these turns are probably just tracing paper from English.
  3. Aliken
    Aliken 10 December 2019 06: 22
    +19
    That’s the difference in approach, Zelejskiy’s blunder and done, and Putin’s every word is thought out. Zelensky child is still, like the whole Kiev gang of idiots.
    1. GRF
      GRF 10 December 2019 06: 25
      -10
      Well, where is the difference, and where is yours on the board ...
      for they have gone ... nadolgol?
      1. GRF
        GRF 10 December 2019 06: 45
        +1
        Quote: GRF
        Well, where is the difference, and where is yours on the board ...
        for they have gone ... nadolgol?

        I clarify that I am comparing activists with Mr. Ze ...
        purely in order to laugh louder ...)
  4. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 10 December 2019 06: 22
    +9
    Hooray! Another expert on Putin has appeared. I thought that only Venediktov knew what Putin was thinking. But then another Putin expert appeared. Oh oh No wonder Putin has the darkest nickname
    1. GRF
      GRF 10 December 2019 06: 40
      +3
      Poroshenko knew Putin well ...
  5. Far B
    Far B 10 December 2019 06: 25
    +8
    We are ready to take gas.
    Are you ready for greyhound puppies? Damn, this topic has bothered with Ukraine. Cut off oxygen (gas) for them - they will become much more accommodating. But "these are not our methods." Our methods, apparently, are that the loot is above all.
    1. GRF
      GRF 10 December 2019 06: 27
      0
      strangle dough!
      it's probably creepy ...
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    3. Cananecat
      Cananecat 10 December 2019 11: 39
      +2
      Quote: Far In
      We are ready to take gas.
      Are you ready for greyhound puppies? Damn, this topic has bothered with Ukraine. Cut off oxygen (gas) for them - they will become much more accommodating. But "these are not our methods." Our methods, apparently, are that the loot is above all.

      Do not believe it, they will not become more accommodating, foreign countries will help them ... the fact is that abroad, like us, in the form in which they exist, they are not needed. Even if you still offer land to the load. Europe understood what they had done, and will try to push the 404th to us for correction ... but do we need it?
  6. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 10 December 2019 06: 26
    +4
    I have long suspected that biomechanical robots are taking over the earth ...
    1. Vladimir16
      Vladimir16 10 December 2019 06: 30
      +6
      We are all created by God.
      1. Pessimist22
        Pessimist22 10 December 2019 06: 39
        +5
        I am embarrassed to ask, do you really believe that we were fashioned from clay, and women were made from our rib?
        1. Nick Russ
          Nick Russ 10 December 2019 11: 37
          0
          Are you a descendant of a gorilla or an orangutan? smile
          1. Pessimist22
            Pessimist22 10 December 2019 12: 27
            0
            I’m a descendant of my ancestors, I read and looked a lot of information, I made my conclusions on the basis of scientific theories, and when I say to children that they made us from clay, and women from the ribs, they laugh, they understand that this is stupidity, I understand if it’s about that They spoke in the 10th century, but already in the 21st century, the century of information and technology, and when adults say such game to me, my ears hurt.
            1. Nick Russ
              Nick Russ 10 December 2019 12: 57
              -2
              And the ancestors of the monkey? You did not answer. smile
              1. Pessimist22
                Pessimist22 10 December 2019 13: 03
                0
                I have no idea how my ancestors happened, but I said that I made conclusions for myself, but I can’t say anything, because I always doubt it, but as I understand it, you know for sure that we were blinded from clay? From the book that the Jews wrote and re-wrote the Greeks several thousand years ago, yes, serious facts.
                1. Nick Russ
                  Nick Russ 10 December 2019 13: 51
                  -3
                  Reading this book you missed a very important point. Namely, the fact that God creating man (unlike animals and monkeys as well) breathed the breath of life into him:
                  "And God created man, a finger [take] from the earth, and breathe in his face the breath of life: and man swiftly live into the soul."
                  That is, in every person there is a divine principle. And this, among other things: immortality of personality, conscience and creativity.
            2. Nick Russ
              Nick Russ 10 December 2019 13: 00
              0
              I, now, like the origin from God more than from the monkey. wink
              1. Pessimist22
                Pessimist22 10 December 2019 13: 06
                0
                Well, this is your right, the Chinese say that they are children of the dragon, this is also their right to believe in it, I wonder where did you draw such conclusions?
              2. Voyager
                Voyager 10 December 2019 14: 24
                +1
                Do you understand that you deny scientific facts to please your personal preferences and upbringing? wink The world is too complex, large and old, to entrust its entire (and man in particular) history of origin to a story from one book, the age of which in relation to humanity since its proven existence is pah. smile
                1. Nick Russ
                  Nick Russ 10 December 2019 14: 43
                  -2
                  You do not vote, but give at least one fact proving the absence of the existence of God.
                  1. Voyager
                    Voyager 10 December 2019 15: 11
                    +1
                    There is such a thing as the law of sufficient reason. So, I’ll tell you that I don’t have to prove the absence of what is not - it’s pointless as much as I would prove to you that I’m not a camel. But if you look the other way around, then there is a need prove the existence of God. This is a very logical construction of the question, don’t you?

                    But purely out of courtesy (and for fun) I can accept your game and give a couple of examples. What religion do you profess, so that I know what mistakes you bring in it? smile And then there are many options and almost all contradict each other smile
                    1. Nick Russ
                      Nick Russ 10 December 2019 15: 16
                      -2
                      You are talking about facts, but you cannot bring them. Some kind of presumption has been dragged along. "Said say a and b" laughing
                      1. Voyager
                        Voyager 10 December 2019 15: 18
                        +1
                        I said that I will give the facts. You answer the question, so that I know what kind of God to speak about. Suddenly, you do not believe in Shiva or Buddha, and I will in vain crucify about them? laughing
                      2. Nick Russ
                        Nick Russ 10 December 2019 15: 38
                        -1
                        First, the Buddha is not God, and Buddhism is not a religion, but a philosophy. And secondly, we are not discussing which religion is right now, but are talking about whether there is God and, accordingly, He created man, or are the monkeys wiser. And the creation of man by God is confessed by at least three Abrahamic religions. Although I consider myself an Orthodox Christian, but in this case it does not really matter.
                      3. Voyager
                        Voyager 10 December 2019 17: 12
                        +1
                        Firstly, I did not call the Buddha God, and about philosophy you got excited, because the debate about what it is a long time wink
                        Quote: Nick Russ
                        but in this case it does not really matter.
                        And secondly, it just has quite significant significance, because we will talk about the Bible, which is the only source of information about God that you are talking about.

                        So in the Bible, as in the Qur'an or in the five books of Moses - in all these and other scriptures that I had to study on the history of religion in high school, from the very first pages you can find a lot of contradictions with the real state of affairs. Everywhere in different ways, of course, and I will not find fault with the rib and clay. However, in the case of the Bible, we are dealing with catastrophic and unscientific ignorance regarding astronomy and nature. What did the first chapter say, remember? And I remember. If in free language, then God created the Earth, the Sun, the Moon and stars. And everything else, excuse me, where? Not created, or just the authors of the book wrote to the best of their knowledge? That is, it turns out that the Bible is not a revelation of the all-knowing super-being, but Hebrew mythology, which, I emphasize, was created by ordinary people and very distant even from ancient science. There are many similar moments, especially about the laws of nature. Earth age for example and its origin? It contradicts the scientific works of cosmology and the current model of the Universe. And when did the person appear there indicated? smile But a certain focus of various sciences called anthropology has irrefutable evidence that a reasonable person appeared a couple of hundred thousand years ago and an ancestor (one of which, as a result of crossing, which was also provided by DNA analysis) was a skilled person who existed for another couple million years back. If interested, I can recommend authors and scientific literature on this topic. smile Total contradiction? Yes. Say: little things? But we have the first conclusion: the Bible is trying to describe those obscure phenomena that can be verified by scientific work and does so with errors. With human errors, therefore, there is no divine in her and there is no sense in trusting her in other things. But science has a sense of trusting if a person is friends with the laws of logic: everything that we say and think, we should express only on a sufficient basis. If your (or my) judgment has no basis, then there is no logical right to consider this the truth. Therefore, next I mention such theses as the development of a hypothesis and the procedure of proof. That is, a person who defends his judgment must prove its truth. This is what science is doing, anthropology in particular. Religion is not. Rather, there are attempts, but they are themselves illegitimate because they are blasphemous, and all because they contradict the concept of faith hi
                      4. Nick Russ
                        Nick Russ 10 December 2019 18: 29
                        0
                        And where did you read about specific numbers?
                        Second Cathedral Epistle of St. Peter
                        CHAPTER 3 Verse 8
                        "That one thing 'must not be hidden from you, beloved, that the Lord has one day as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."
                        No one can say exactly how long (in human terms) the creation of the world took. Maybe a million years. Now in the understanding of Christianity is the seventh day of creation.
                        This is a debate not in wo format. If you are interested, you can find the answers to all the contradictions that interest you even without me. It’s just that, usually, people think in a limited way within the framework of what they once told, but do not bother looking for answers. And you look and be sure to find answers to all questions.
                      5. Voyager
                        Voyager 10 December 2019 18: 57
                        0
                        No one can say exactly how long (in human terms) the creation of the world took. Maybe a million years.

                        And what do you mean by the word peace. The planet on which we live or the universe? But in any case, there is not even a million and not a billion years, much more, although I understood your message about time. The vast expanses, bodies of matter and physical processes are so fleeting that it cannot be said whether they existed at all or not, gravity ... I personally see humanity as an intangible insignificance against the background of everything that is still known today and once again trying to explain the main idea: the problem is that the Universe is incommensurably larger and more complex than described in the scripture we are discussing. As in relation to our planet to everything else. Trillions of times.

                        This is a debate not in wo format.

                        I will tell you more, this is not a dispute, but the reasoning that you asked me to give smile I do not pretend to be the ultimate truth and insult you or your worldview, if anything, I have no goal. And yes, I’m always on the lookout and I think it’s right, thanks for the wish hi I’m not even ashamed to share the fact that I once called, thought and felt like a believing Christian, until I met acute reasons to change my mind on this subject. My conscience demands it.

                        And what about numbers and literature, if you are interested, then I refer to the knowledge obtained, for example, from "The Making of Mankind" by Alekseev and "Prehistoric Man." (Lambert David). Although in the current conditions it is easier and more convenient to study resources like anthropogenesis.ru. Good luck! hi
                      6. Nick Russ
                        Nick Russ 10 December 2019 19: 21
                        0
                        The world in the understanding of creation is the visible and invisible world. That is, the entire universe is material and immaterial ("parallel," the world where angels live).
    2. GRF
      GRF 10 December 2019 06: 31
      +2
      and before they were called puppets ...
  7. Aliken
    Aliken 10 December 2019 06: 33
    +12
    Ukraine is choking with delight that Zelensky did not lose consciousness from fear of seeing Putin up close, probably, he will receive a "hero of Ukraine".
    1. GRF
      GRF 10 December 2019 06: 37
      0
      But he already said thanks to the EU representatives?
  8. 30143
    30143 10 December 2019 06: 43
    +9
    People, People. .. Do you and I, both on the one hand and the other, get something from this pipe? It seems that this is personally your gas and pipe.
    1. GRF
      GRF 10 December 2019 07: 12
      -2
      Quote: 30143
      People, People. .. Do you and I, both on the one hand and the other, get something from this pipe? It seems that this is personally your gas and pipe.

      I’m surprised that you haven’t gotten sick yet ...
      this usually happens when I argue that the state is obligated to pay dividends from each state-owned enterprise to the personal account of each citizen of this state ...
      1. tracer
        tracer 10 December 2019 07: 24
        +5
        You don’t smoke in lengths of drag. The state has other mechanisms of investment in the population. Damn ... a man in bright ridiculous clothes in a circus .. it’s necessary as he gazanul ..
        1. GRF
          GRF 10 December 2019 07: 29
          +3
          this is not an investment, but a state debt to its citizens, which for some reason, is not considered a debt ...
          (and therefore "effective" private owners are trying to privatize it intensively and quickly)
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 10 December 2019 10: 19
          +1
          Quote: tracer
          The state has other mechanisms of investment in the population.

          judging by matters in the internal life of the country, they do not work
      2. GRF
        GRF 10 December 2019 09: 02
        -1
        t.d.
        how to protect gas, sorry, the state, so ...
        but like ... so like that ...
        sorry, the Motherland is sacred ...
      3. vitvit123
        vitvit123 10 December 2019 09: 11
        +4
        A Gazprom state. Has become an enterprise!? I thought public ... counter. The package does not mean state. An enterprise like ...
        1. GRF
          GRF 10 December 2019 09: 15
          +1
          Quote: vitvit123
          A Gazprom state. Has become an enterprise!? I thought public ... counter. The package does not mean state. An enterprise like ...

          Yes, it was not accurate, I’ll correct it: with a state share ...
          effective owners do not sleep, unlike the people, who are "ashamed" to have their share of theirs ...
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 10 December 2019 10: 23
            +1
            Quote: GRF
            yes, there was ...

            Formally, a little more than half, and to be more precise, 50,23 percent of the shares belong to the Russian Federation and domestic structures. This figure is given in the reports of PJSC GAZPROM. This distribution is as follows:
            The Federal Agency for State Property Management owns only 38,37 percent;
            Rosgazification - 0,89 percent of the shares;
            Rosneftegaz - 10,97 percent.
            The shareholder of these companies is also the Russian Federation, only due to this the figure of 50,23 has been reached.
            The remaining share of the domestic corporation engaged in the development of our natural resources is divided among themselves:
            ADR - behind this abbreviation The Bank of New York Mellon is hidden - it is an American issuer bank. He owns a package that includes 25,20 percent of the shares of "our" state corporation.
            24,57 percent belong to the rest of the participants. Owner data could not be established.
            1. dSK
              dSK 10 December 2019 11: 33
              0
              Quote: Silvestr
              ADR - behind this abbreviation is The Bank of New York Mellon - it is an American bank issuer. He owns the package that includes 25,20 percent shares of "our" state corporation.

              This is a "blocking" packet.
          2. vitvit123
            vitvit123 10 December 2019 16: 59
            +1
            Sorry, why ashamed? I have several acquaintances who have Gazprom shares (and they don’t feel ashamed). Now everyone can buy them, like ... why if I would buy Gazprom shares, could I be ashamed?
    2. Den717
      Den717 10 December 2019 08: 51
      +7
      Quote: 30143
      Do you and I, on the one hand or the other, get something from this pipe?

      For every cube of gas produced, Gazprom pays MET to the budget. And the more domestic consumption and exports, the greater the transfer to the budget. This is not counting all other indirect payments. Now repeat your question, and answer yourself.
      1. GRF
        GRF 10 December 2019 09: 07
        -1
        Quote: Den717
        Quote: 30143
        Do you and I, on the one hand or the other, get something from this pipe?

        For every cube of gas produced, Gazprom pays MET to the budget. And the more domestic consumption and exports, the greater the transfer to the budget. This is not counting all other indirect payments. Now repeat your question, and answer yourself.

        Well, of course! you're right! taxes then he sees, like you!
        1. Den717
          Den717 10 December 2019 09: 27
          -2
          Quote: GRF
          Well, of course! you're right! taxes then he sees, like you!

          Do you have something to rebut? Gazprom with revenues of 4313 billion rubles. In 2017, he paid 2200 billion rubles to the country's budget. Something from there and you fell ....
          1. GRF
            GRF 10 December 2019 09: 39
            -1
            taxes? Of course they did. I personally pay 13% + per month, so this is necessary and useful, I don’t argue with this, how could it be without this, for example, that the army would be updated ...
            but, unfortunately, it’s you who don’t want to see the difference between tax and dividend, this is a school cant. for it is in school that the main compulsory subjects should be money management and law ...
            capitalism is in the yard, it’s like sales of a country for it, it was destroyed, but what was of interest, they didn’t understand ...
            1. Den717
              Den717 10 December 2019 09: 53
              +2
              Quote: GRF
              you don’t want to see the difference between tax and dividend

              And who do you want to receive dividends from? What institution are you a shareholder in? Something early you started talking about shoals ...
              1. GRF
                GRF 10 December 2019 10: 16
                -1
                Quote: Den717
                Quote: GRF
                you don’t want to see the difference between tax and dividend

                And who do you want to receive dividends from? What institution are you a shareholder in? Something early you started talking about shoals ...

                I have shares in many enterprises, but now we are not talking about personal money, but public money ... I’m on a personal basis, I haven’t gone too far and will not burrow.
                Do you really think that only money can enter equity?
                the authorized capital is not only money, but also selfless work (did you hear about Maria Vasilyevna about Oktyabrskaya? I bought a tank for my own and went to fight on it) there were also those who invested their money in enterprises (though many didn’t voluntarily, dispossessed, but )
                and you think that the descendants of these heroic people do not have the right to a share created by their relatives? Or is it yours, only the inheritance of the rich, who has something to inherit? so know we are not poor! and ours should work for us ...
                by the way, by us, I mean you too (if the same citizenship ...)
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 10 December 2019 10: 29
        0
        Quote: Den717
        And the more domestic consumption and exports, the greater the transfer to the budget.


        Sales revenue decreased by 203,3 billion rubles, or 3% for the 9 months of 2019, compared to the same period last year and amounted to 5 billion rubles. The decrease in sales revenue was mainly due to changes in sales volumes and average prices. In the III quarter amounted to 698,3 billion rubles.

        Operating expenses increased by 3,8% for the 9 months of 2019, compared to the same period last year and amounted to 4 618 billion rubles. In the third quarter, operating expenses amounted to 1 billion rubles, which is 421,3% higher than the same indicator for the third quarter of 0,5.
        The net profit of shareholders for the III quarter amounted to 211,8 billion rubles, which is 45% lower than the same indicator for the III quarter of 2018.

        “Decrease in revenue and operating profit in the III quarter. was the result of a 6% drop in exports to non-CIS countries and a decrease in fuel prices by about 32% in dollars and rubles. ” Expert BCS Express Konstantin Karpov.
        1. GRF
          GRF 10 December 2019 10: 38
          +1
          Sylvester, would you be more indignant at the enterprise if you knew that a pretty penny is falling from you?
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 10 December 2019 10: 43
            +4
            Quote: GRF
            would you be outraged more vehemently for the enterprise

            where is the indignation? Only a statement of facts from BCS Bank. Minimum emotion when counting money
            1. GRF
              GRF 10 December 2019 10: 45
              +3
              the correct school affects ...)
        2. Den717
          Den717 10 December 2019 10: 52
          0
          Quote: Silvestr
          Decrease in revenue and operating profit in QXNUMX

          So what? I gave a diagram showing the relationship between the volume of extracted natural resources and the welfare of the state. Market fluctuations have not been canceled, they are not always pleasing. But this is the norm today. And you, when you bring your pictures with dubious signatures, think about the contribution that all those figures from the picture who have foreign citizenship make, and what contribution they make to the activities of enterprises. You are not there, probably because there would be no sense in your presence there. It is so? And today what is good for Gazprom / Rosneft is good for the state as well. And then, keep in mind that Gazprom and Rosneft are legal entities, entities that have their own profits from their activities and pay taxes. And all their benefit to the state is precisely in this, in the amount of taxes, as from a "bakery" around the corner. No more. And if they put the elephant in the chair of the general, then this is their business. Not mine or yours.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 10 December 2019 10: 56
            +2
            Quote: Den717
            So what? I have given a diagram that shows the relationship between the volumes of extracted natural resources and the welfare of the state.

            I do not argue, but it is about that. that gas sales are declining and this is a trend. And then, you are right about the role of mining and the welfare of the state
            1. Den717
              Den717 10 December 2019 11: 29
              0
              Quote: Silvestr
              but it's about that. that gas sales are declining and this is a trend

              If you follow the truth, then the question from a friend sounded something like this
              Do you and I, on the one hand or the other, get something from this pipe?
              .
              I will not argue with trends. They are volatile things. Today they are falling, tomorrow they are growing. To us, the rise in gas prices is also not entirely and always useful. Today, shale products serve as a kind of barrier to rising energy prices. Slightly jumped the upper bar, immediately received a surge in activity in a competitive environment.
    3. vitvit123
      vitvit123 10 December 2019 09: 08
      +2
      Well, on the one hand, taxes exactly fall. No ?
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 December 2019 06: 47
    +2
    He has other natural biomechanics
    Wow what words he knows, and most importantly how he applies them on time. It is strange that I was surprised that the GDP parses each question in detail, delving into the little things. Not accustomed to Ukraine so carefully approach the solution of interstate problems. This is not to ride under the anti-Russian chants, here it is necessary to think. Therefore, no matter the day, then a new statement, from which ears wither and anger boils.
  10. Leonidych
    Leonidych 10 December 2019 06: 52
    0
    If he tried to cross the red lines from Paris, he would not return as president. If I came back at all. Avakov did not fly with him for nothing. Avakov strength and power. And Ze clown. He can not and will not be able in the future Will be the "wedding general" of the Nazis.
  11. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 10 December 2019 06: 54
    +1
    It’s difficult to negotiate with him, but there were moments when we agreed. He parses every question into details. And we have settled every word. It's complicated. I am a different person: once and once - and agreed.


    "I'm a different person, chiki-bunches and it's in the bag"

    Zelia, you are not a fraer at the entrance, you are not buying fish, but you are conducting serious negotiations with dangerous people who, if something happens, will tear the marriage to the root))
    1. GRF
      GRF 10 December 2019 07: 22
      -2
      just
      three four - done
      this is from another opera ...)
    2. tracer
      tracer 10 December 2019 07: 26
      0
      Look how happy he is on a selfie with such people .. I didn’t throw myself in a hug and didn’t sit on my knees anymore.
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 10 December 2019 07: 27
        0
        Looks like a candy treat, that’s happy))
      2. GRF
        GRF 10 December 2019 07: 36
        -4
        Quote: tracer
        Look how happy he is on a selfie with such people .. I didn’t throw myself in a hug and didn’t sit on my knees anymore.

        yes, you need to sit on your knees in a different suit,
        well, so that others are also happy ...)
  12. acetophenone
    acetophenone 10 December 2019 07: 00
    +2
    Zelensky has the same biomechanicsas with Khlestakov:
    “He is not able to stop constant attention on any thought” - he is not able to concentrate, to bring to the end any of his thoughts, none of his feelings. He <...> "lost all his ends and beginnings", he is the embodied denial of all ends and beginnings, the embodied moral and mental mean, mediocrity
    .(from)
    1. GRF
      GRF 10 December 2019 07: 18
      -1
      everything is simpler, there are just prompters buzzing ....
  13. Air force
    Air force 10 December 2019 07: 19
    +9
    As for me, the compromise on gas and three billion dollars looks like this: Russia will again supply gas on a direct line at 25% cheaper (as Putin said about such a possibility) than Ukraine buys on the alleged reverse, that is, at the usual price without Slovak reverse wrapping. Zelensky will be presented as a peremogy, and if it is possible to reduce the price for the population by at least 2-3%, it will be a super peremoga, and he should be perceived as a guardian of the disadvantaged. The Nazis will also have nothing to show him, because he kind of "bent" V.V.P. and took off 3 lard from Russia with gas and lowered the price laughing for "Witnesses of the Reverse" a clear victory. The contract will probably not be renewed for a year either, it may be prolonged for two or three years, so that SP2 can be launched without fuss. Taking into account the fact that Ukraine most likely will not have time to conclude an agreement on European rules this year as it wishes. By the way, according to these rules, Naftogaz will move away from the transit feeder, so here only it is in the red, and otherwise it is a continuous overload, but in fact it will simply start buying gas straight again.
    1. GRF
      GRF 10 December 2019 07: 45
      +1
      A politician should be able to predict what will happen tomorrow, in a week, in a month, in a year. And then explain why this did not happen.
      (c) Churchill
      prepared ze zealously ...
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 10 December 2019 10: 43
      0
      Quote: Air Force
      As for me, the compromise on gas and three billion dollars looks like this: Russia will again supply gas on a direct line at 25% cheaper (as Putin said about such a possibility) than Ukraine buys on the alleged reverse, that is, at the usual price without Slovak reverse wrapping. Zelensky will be presented as a peremogy, and if it is possible to reduce the price for the population by at least 2-3%, it will be a super peremoga, and he should be perceived as a guardian of the disadvantaged. The Nazis will also have nothing to show him, because he kind of "bent" V.V.P. and took off 3 lard from Russia with gas and lowered the price laughing for "Witnesses of the Reverse" a clear victory. The contract will probably not be renewed for a year either, it may be prolonged for two or three years, so that SP2 can be launched without fuss. Taking into account the fact that Ukraine most likely will not have time to conclude an agreement on European rules this year as it wishes. By the way, according to these rules, Naftogaz will move away from the transit feeder, so here only it is in the red, and otherwise it is a continuous overload, but in fact it will simply start buying gas straight again.

      Good comment, competent alignment. It is a pity that you can put only one +! hi
  14. bbtcs
    bbtcs 10 December 2019 07: 45
    -8
    One can only admire the political system of Ukraine. The best available. We would have such an election! We would have such a president! Zelensky - Ukrainian Charles de Gaulle.
  15. bbtcs
    bbtcs 10 December 2019 07: 47
    -3
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    you are not a fraer on the import, you are not buying fish

    And then in Odessa did not tear.
    1. comradChe
      comradChe 10 December 2019 10: 02
      0
      And how they burned ".... by the Black Sea." ?
  16. Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 10 December 2019 07: 48
    +3
    Zelensky about Putin:
    It’s difficult to negotiate with him, but there were moments when we agreed. He parses every question into details. And we have settled every word. It's complicated. I am a different person: once and once - and agreed. And he has another natural biomechanics.

    This is all a bitter experience. And Zelensky's "friends-comrades" have not yet "thrown", so
    one time - and agreed
    He is still ahead.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 December 2019 09: 33
      0
      Quote: Polite Elk
      He is still ahead.

      Yes, the horses have already been thrown so that there is nowhere to throw further.
      1. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 10 December 2019 09: 39
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Yes, the horses have already been thrown so that there is nowhere to throw further.

        There is no limit to perfection (duplicity and lack of principle). They have not yet been "turned" by the Marykan dad. I guess it's a matter of time.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 10 December 2019 10: 34
          0
          Quote: Polite Elk
          They have not yet been "turned" by the Marykan dad. I guess it's a matter of time.

          Now they will let off some steam from the Normandy Four, then Sam's tribesmen will turn around. Until the shale gas came out, they took up the ground. This is where the "kidalovo" will go.
  17. Moonsund
    Moonsund 10 December 2019 08: 03
    -3
    For inconsistency and excessive self-confidence, fate always clicks on the nose. “gazmyas” decided to conduct business as in the distant 2009, from the position of the masters of the situation. Only the external conditions have changed, and some "persons", lounging in expensive armchairs, were concerned not with the "national property", but with their own pockets. By the way, the pepsonazhs are all the same, as, however, in the situation with WADA. It is necessary to work, and not to shift dummies from one position to another! Enrages that for all this, we, ordinary people, will pay. By raising tariffs and prices, lowering the very "welfare" that the president so often mentions.
  18. rocket757
    rocket757 10 December 2019 08: 21
    +2
    What is in sight is not the fact that it is \ will actually be .... what is not in sight ???? see later.
    1. cniza
      cniza 10 December 2019 09: 31
      +2
      A lot of unpleasant things for banderlogs can come out there, but everything will be lowered as always ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 10 December 2019 09: 52
        0
        Quote: cniza
        A lot of unpleasant things for banderlogs can come out there, but everything will be lowered as always ...

        Can there be HELL?
        There schaz - s - s overwhelm how trample !!!
        1. cniza
          cniza 10 December 2019 09: 55
          +1
          They have math - minus minus gives a plus.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 10 December 2019 10: 05
            +1
            Quote: cniza
            They have math - minus minus gives a plus.

            Somehow I began to forget how it is known in the world of science ... however, it was the Soviet era, then everything was reasonable and moderate.
            1. cniza
              cniza 10 December 2019 10: 11
              +1
              But in any way, the language does not know such words, since it was marginal, and then they began to invent it ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 10 December 2019 11: 38
                +1
                Hard to say. Ukraine was already artificially tailored ... now the chimera can work out. Not viable.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 10 December 2019 14: 23
                  +2
                  Of course, there is no history, there is no experience of statehood, but there is only a desire to eat deliciously and sleep sweetly.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 10 December 2019 14: 49
                    +1
                    Quote: cniza
                    there is only the desire to eat deliciously and sleep sweetly.

                    "Modest" desire, not a crime ... but yanking at a big, strong neighbor, with such a desire goes very badly! Their independent choice!
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 10 December 2019 14: 53
                      +2
                      The owner forces and louder.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 10 December 2019 15: 03
                        +1
                        There, without a host, there are enough yapping, in the hope of cookies ... far from enough for everyone.
                      2. cniza
                        cniza 10 December 2019 15: 08
                        +2
                        Without money, they won’t be long, even the most malicious.
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 10 December 2019 16: 56
                        +1
                        Let not much remain, but the most .... spiritual.
  19. dobrik10
    dobrik10 10 December 2019 08: 34
    +1
    What kind of biomechanics is there when in Ukraine the right sector "beloved" will meet ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 December 2019 09: 31
      0
      Quote: dobrik10
      What kind of biomechanics is there when in Ukraine the right sector "favorite" will meet ..

      Then biomechanics will not come, but "biomass".
  20. kriten
    kriten 10 December 2019 09: 05
    +1
    Kolv Kiev did not find betrayal, so it is from Moscow - there is definitely.
    1. cniza
      cniza 10 December 2019 09: 26
      +1
      Quote: kriten
      Kolv Kiev did not find betrayal, so it is from Moscow - there is definitely.


      In what? , said A, say B ... and what can a crowd of pan-leg-eaters decide?
      1. kriten
        kriten 10 December 2019 09: 42
        0
        Riding only in order to hear the prepared ultimatums and agrees to consider them is possible only for the defeated side ...
        1. cniza
          cniza 10 December 2019 09: 46
          +1
          You talked about betrayal, in what?
          1. kriten
            kriten 10 December 2019 10: 03
            +2
            The betrayal began with the conclusion of the Minsk surrender agreements, thanks to which Russia turned a blind eye to the unpunished killings of citizens of the republics and was to blame for everything, since signing a paper with cheaters who immediately began to interpret it only with Kiev’s wishes was to follow the path of Gorbachev and Yeltsin. Once again stand on a rake and get on the forehead, and consciously ... is that ??? The state is nurturing Nazism and is already turning into fascism, mainly with our money and for transit and trade .. Yes, even our state-owned banks took part in competitions for financing ATOs, not to mention the supply of engines and fuel to tanks. Such a state should be economically strangled and prepared for partition. And again we decided to feed: we concluded an agreement on oil transit, we do not impede trade. In the case, ultimatums were to be presented to Kiev .... and not vice versa.
            1. cniza
              cniza 10 December 2019 10: 06
              +1
              You have complete porridge, start with Mamaia, then it may clear up.
              Although in many respects I agree with you, but you have not forgotten about ordinary people, and many relatives ... the Nazis must be crushed.
              1. kriten
                kriten 10 December 2019 10: 23
                +2
                Recently, the Nazis supported 10-12%, now it is already recognized by all -30. Remember how Hitler walked, the idol of today's Ukraine to power. Only the current regime in Ukraine will not be strongly supported by anyone. The goal is to bring the hungry population by hate propaganda to the point where millions of intoxicated people rush to fight. Guess who: Moskalyak on gilyaku. I have no porridge. Porridge for those who forgot how rich the Ukrainian land is watered with Russian blood in the fight against fascism. Yes, there is a basis for fascism from those times: SS divisions of grandfathers and great-grandfathers, policemen and teams to destroy the population, servants in concentration camps ... all Ukrainians. Today, all this evil is held in high esteem, and their followers have become brothers for the Kremlin ... and who need to be fed ...
  21. cniza
    cniza 10 December 2019 09: 25
    +1
    I am a different person: once and once - and agreed.


    Amused ... agreed, and what's next ...
  22. Igor Pa
    Igor Pa 10 December 2019 09: 25
    0
    Putin is not working on fart gas. Revelation for Ukraine.
  23. faterdom
    faterdom 10 December 2019 09: 27
    +1
    There is a plus. We did not promise anything new or leaked. Minus - you couldn’t even go for it, except to poke the nose of two Ms into Ze's inadequacy and incapacity.
  24. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 10 December 2019 09: 29
    0
    According to Vladimir Zelensky, at a meeting with the Russian president, issues of “compensation by Gazprom in the amount of 3 billion dollars” were discussed. In Ukraine, they claim that this compensation was allegedly “awarded” by the Stockholm arbitration.
    And when will the trial finally take place over Ukraine, which borrowed 3 billion from Russia in 2014. The IMF Board of Directors recognized the debt as sovereign, that is, payable by the Ukrainian state. The London High Court also ruled that Kiev was obliged to return the money to Moscow. Why do Ukrainian presidents not see their debts, but try to wrest non-existent debts from other countries? When will people come to power in / in Ukraine, and not clowns of "Berdichev's tailoring", when will Ukraine become an understandable country? People of Ukraine, you have just had an election, where were your eyes?
  25. monah
    monah 10 December 2019 09: 45
    0
    Quote: Den717
    Quote: GRF
    Well, of course! you're right! taxes then he sees, like you!

    Do you have something to rebut? Gazprom with revenues of 4313 billion rubles. In 2017, he paid 2200 billion rubles to the country's budget. Something from there and you fell ....

    It may be so, if we assume that Gazprom leases land to us and grows gas on it, and we pay interest on the lease, but it’s not really like that ?!
  26. awdrgy
    awdrgy 10 December 2019 10: 14
    -2
    Why sell gas? -It is necessary to sell energy For this, it is necessary not to sell energy carriers and complicate their supply from other countries (in some directions it is possible) to wait (tolerate) literally 10-15 years before the onset of an energy "famine" (and most likely even less) and live in "chocolate" Of course, this option implies a ban on the import of spent nuclear fuel into Russia (so that there is no hope for the nuclear power plant) A whole set of problems that in a short time will arise for countries that do not have energy resources will force them to reconsider their policy
  27. Operator
    Operator 10 December 2019 10: 37
    +3
    Monica Zelinsky, who was in Paris under the escort of the Minister of the Interior and Security Services of the Outskirts, seemed laughing

    When it seems, it is necessary to be baptized (or whatever the Jews have).
  28. 32363
    32363 10 December 2019 10: 41
    +1
    I am a different person: once and once - and agreed

    he’ll be a fool, he would sell seeds to him at the market, there wouldn’t be any competitors.
  29. VB
    VB 10 December 2019 10: 56
    -2
    And I'm more interested in the gasification of Russia, lower prices for gas and petrol, for housing and communal services in Russia. Something "Putin and his team" do not bother about this at all, they only raise prices, and they will pay 3 billion to the outskirts and prolong transit, since its western owners ordered it. Otherwise, their kids will have a bad time in the west, and real estate accounts will be under threat.
  30. svp67
    svp67 10 December 2019 11: 56
    +1
    “He has a different natural biomechanics”: Zelensky spoke about Putin
    Something it reminded ...
  31. Oleg133
    Oleg133 10 December 2019 13: 49
    -1
    Quote: Pessimist22
    I think that when the pipe is empty and they begin to disassemble it, it will be much easier to negotiate on gas and debt, time does not work on Ze.

    Russia will feed Ukraine until the last Russian
  32. Ax Matt
    Ax Matt 10 December 2019 16: 29
    0
    Once again ... head in the toilet. But thinking is generally "difficult"!
  33. frizzy
    frizzy 10 December 2019 17: 29
    0
    Zelensky loves his life very much and therefore goes on about Bandera. He does not care about his people. He doesn’t have much time left. It's a pity the man.
  34. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 10 December 2019 18: 41
    0
    Quote: Civil
    5. Transnistria 2.

    With one difference, but crucial, Transnistria does not have a common border with the Russian Federation.
  35. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 10 December 2019 18: 47
    0
    Quote: tihonmarine
    And when will there finally be a trial of Ukraine, which borrowed 3 billion from Russia in 2014?

    https://rg.ru/2019/12/09/v-londone-vozobnovilis-slushaniia-po-dolgu-ukrainy-pered-rossiej.html
  36. Comrade
    Comrade 11 December 2019 05: 33
    0
    Zelensky about Putin:
    It’s hard to negotiate with him. He parses every question into details. I am a different person: once and once - and agreed.

    KVN decided to wrestle with КГБ.
  37. Charik
    Charik 11 December 2019 19: 05
    0
    did this buffoon raise his voice on Lavrov?