WADA introduces new sanctions against Russian sports

Urgent messages come about the decision of the World Anti-Doping Association on new sanctions against Russian sports. The reports said that WADA functionaries, "having discussed the application of the college of athletes", decided to remove Russia from hosting the World Championships, the Olympics and from submitting applications for their holding for a period of 4 years.

It is further noted that the WADA commission decided to ban Russian officials (including representatives of the Russian Olympic Committee) from attending international sports tournaments for the same period.

Moreover, WADA Vice President Linda Helleland literally stated the following:

In my opinion, all Russian sport deserves the most severe sanctions from the World Anti-Doping Association.

It is noteworthy that earlier WADA itself completely restored the rights of RusADA - the Russian Anti-Doping Association. And now, without actually offering any explanation for its decision to ban the Russian Federation from accepting world championships and submit applications for their holding, it broadcasts a statement from the same Helleland, which says:

The decision to restore RusADA in rights was a mistake.

The WADA claims that some manipulations were allegedly detected in reflecting the results of doping tests. And again we are talking about the time when Mr. Rodchenkov worked at RusADA.

It turns out that Russia is going to be punished again for violations, if there were such violations at all. This is an amazingly absurd precedent in international jurisprudence, not to mention sport.

Comments

[Rusj]

You have to do your Championships! In vain they do it, I think they will soon get tired and they will already begin to soar already unbearably endure this hat. Pure policy.

[Civil]

Very sad and not good. It is necessary to conduct a debriefing, or rather crashes with sports officials.

[carstorm 11]

but what will it give?) you do not understand? we are punished for the same thing that was before this but in a new way) that says only one thing. they were looking for something but couldn’t find it and again twisted their own rules and laws) it’s called strangling) you’ll at least put someone there, everything will be the same. they are openly fighting with us and are ready for this even for that.

[Civil]

Quote: carstorm 11

but what will it give?) you do not understand? we are punished for the same thing that was before this but in a new way) that says only one thing. they were looking for something but couldn’t find it and again twisted their own rules and laws) it’s called strangling) you’ll at least put someone there, everything will be the same. they are openly fighting with us and are ready for this even for that.

Nobody denies the share of politics; this is, of course, primarily a political and Russophobic decision. BUT it was not necessary to substitute.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Mutko was the Minister of Sports, now Deputy Prime Minister, oversees the aftermath of the floods in Tulun. Money is transferred, compensation has not yet been paid.

[Vladimir16]

Yes, do not care about professional sports and officials and athletes who eat wheels. And for those athletes who perform without a flag.
I would still recover from them all the money spent from the budget.

What the hell should we pay for their reptile?

You can’t play football in Crimea because FIFA does not allow it.

The flag of Russia cannot be raised at the Olympics because the Olympic Committee forbids.

Does anyone have pride there?

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Vladimir16

I would still recover from them all the money spent from the budget.

Well, yes, who will give you back EVERYTHING, and a small share to those who need it? Are you also going to take away from the "orphans"? For this you, these same "orphans" and in powder and in a ram's horn can, that would not covet the "acquired back-breaking labor."

[Tatyana]

earlier, WADA itself fully restored the rights of RusADA - the Russian Anti-Doping Association. And now, without actually offering any explanation for its decision to ban the Russian Federation from accepting the world championships and submit applications for their holding, it broadcasts a statement by the same Helleland, who says:

The decision to restore RusADA in rights was a mistake.

Quote: mark1

You don’t have to give yourself an insult And you need to respect yourself and your country, and not try to penetrate even a carcass with at least a scarecrow assuring everyone that somewhere deep in themselves they sing the Russian anthem and twist figs to enemies.

This RF should have been done last time - i.e. at past JOIs!
And then the Russian government convinced the Russians that:
1. If the Russian Federation does not take part in the then Olympic Games, Russia will not be allowed to the next Olympic Games (!). And we see that Russia is not allowed to the next Olympic Games in an even tougher version!!!
2. That therefore the Russian Federation must also pay an additional $15 million to WADA in order to cover for WADA members their financial “expenses” in investigating doping “violations” of Russian athletes and in order for at least some Russians to be allowed to participate in the Olympic Games under the Olympic flag.

Money - $ 15 million. - The Russian Federation paid for WADA, thereby recognizing its “rogue” CAPITULATION in front of other countries of the world by the WADA flag /

What do we - Russia - now have?
And we have that from Russia WADA members and those who stand behind WADA will drink blood until TMV begins!

All this is and is called the FOREIGNER of the Great War - TMF!
There is no need to go far for historical examples.

August 1, 1936. Opening of the XI Olympic Games in Berlin. Documentary filming of German filmmakers (excerpt lasting 4:57).

[Guillon]

5 years before the Second World War! Well, let's wait 2025, but it's time to end with such an Olympics !!!

[Tatyana]

Quote: Gillaton

5 years before the Second World War! Well, let's wait 2025, but it's time to end with such an Olympics !!!

There is nothing to argue! Russians need to prepare for the TMV war the way the Soviet population Stalin prepared for it!

[Tatyana]

WADA introduced new sanctions against Russia.
On top of that, WADA’s decision is simply a manifestation of UNFAIR sports competition of the West under the protection of WADA against the PF!

On December 8, 2019, 3 Russian flags rose above the ice in Turin. Alena Kostornaya, Anna Scherbakova and Alexandra Trusova climbed the podium after the final of the Grand Prix in figure skating in Turin. This time he is completely Russian.
The Grand Prix finals ended in Turin, in total, the Russian skaters won 4 medals, one of which is gold. Most of Russia's awards were brought by coaches of the coaching group Eteri Tutberidze (she “raised” Olympic champion Alina Zagitova), who won the entire podium.

Now our outstanding West-winning athletes - Russian figure skaters and swimmers - 4 years will not be able to compete in international competitions under the flag of the Russian Federation.

The success of skaters with swimmers and the threat looming over Russia - Russia 24
8 Dec 2019

[Tatyana]

I ask everyone to apologize! For all my several attempts, the right video to illustrate my comment, alas, did not go away.

This page "VO", apparently, is heavily overloaded - for there are already 352 comments to this article from caring members of the site "VO"!

[Oleg Zorin]

Let me remind you how the preparation ended: "After the loss of Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltic States, Donbas and other regions, we have much less territory, therefore, there are much fewer people, bread, metal, factories, factories. We have lost more than 70 million people, more than 800 million poods of grain a year and more than 10 million tons of metal a year. We already have no predominance over the Germans either in human reserves or in grain reserves. " (from). As a result, more than 20 million of our citizens went to the land. Do you want to repeat? You have neither mind nor conscience.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Oleg Zorin

You have neither mind nor conscience.

No, it's your political and historical eclecticism in your head - i.e. you mixed everything together! Namely.

In 1991, the USSR lost to the West / USA Cold War. After the defeat in Kholodnaya, Russia is not sovereign, but only seems to rise from its knees.
Ahead of the hot war - TMV.
And what do you suggest?
Do you at least understand the essence of the upcoming attack on the Russian Federation by Western countries, which cannot be avoided, what are you telling me about some kind of "conscience" in general ?!

And since this article is about professional sports in the Russian Federation, in this case I mean the need to develop, first of all, mass physical education and amateur sports, as it was in the USSR before the Second World War - under Stalin. Namely.

November 1930 - the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet Armed Forces of the USSR considered the draft “Regulations on the GTO complex”, and in March 1931 approved the 1st degree complex “Ready for Labor and Defense of the USSR”. The standards for 15 types of FU are included - running, jumping, throwing a grenade, skiing, swimming, pulling up, etc. And 6 requirements, for the fulfillment of which it was necessary to know the basics of the physical culture movement, military affairs, self-control, PHC, sanitary and hygiene rules. To pass the TRP standards admission - men are not younger than 18 and women are not younger than 17. All those who passed received the badge “Ready for work ....” and certificate of the All-Union Supreme Council of the USSR. January 1933 - 2nd degree of the TRP. Included standards for 22 species plus 3 theoretical requirements. The first badges of the 2nd degree were cadets and commanders of the Military Academy. M.V., Frunze. 1934 - at the suggestion of the Komsomol Central Committee, the BSTU (Be prepared ...) was approved for schoolchildren, which included 16 standards of a sports-technical nature. In 1934, 2,5 million people passed the standards of the TRP at all levels. With the introduction of the BHTF, work was completed to create the regulatory framework of the Soviet PV system. The creation of the physical culture complex of the TRP was an important step on the way to improving the Soviet PV system. It was intended to solve the problems of improving the population, its comprehensive FR, preparing for productive work and protecting the homeland. Consequently, the complex was the programmatic and methodological basis of the Soviet PV system.

TOTAL Your commentary in itself is liberal in nature with the West in relation to the enslaved USSR / Russia.

[Vladimir16]

Play hockey friends!
Winter is in the yard.
Play it yourself. Take the children and blow to the rink.
In the summer, by all means, play football at the stadium.
Do not forget about athletics.
And without fail to the pool. Both in the summer and in the winter !.

Sport is needed for people's health.

The Olympics apparently has outlived itself. Well, let him rest in peace.

[Wolverine]

Quote: Vladimir16

Sport is needed for people's health

A little bit wrong - physical education is needed for health ...

[DMB_95]

Quote: Vladimir16

Sport is needed for people's health.

The Olympics apparently has outlived itself. Well, let him rest in peace.

"High performance sport" has long had nothing to do with human health.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: DMB_95

Quote: Vladimir16

The Olympics apparently has outlived itself. Well, let him rest in peace.

"High performance sport" has long had nothing to do with human health.

And the photo to the article confirms this. This is green, who is it?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Vladimir16

The Olympics apparently has outlived itself. Well, let him rest in peace.

The new motto of the Olympic movement: Oh sport, you are the cache!

[Alex Justice]

The Olympics apparently has outlived itself. Well, let him rest in peace.

And we’ll save money on sports officials.

[iConst]

Quote: Vladimir16

Does anyone have pride there?

The fact that nothing changes says a lot. In sports, muddy came to take money. And not to raise the country's prestige. All! Goals are set.

Now in the networks you can, if you want, raise public opinion. At least write a letter to the Kremlin’s website and encourage people to vote for it. Against the muddy and others. That’s all you need to do at least an hour every day in the evening — look for like-minded people through the network and sign up your acquaintances and colleagues to sign up for acquaintances as well. Everything is within the law.

But ...

I tried to organize several houses against dog lovers who don’t clean shit and mess up the whole yard - everyone clicks with their tongues, expresses solidarity and ... they do nothing at home. Watch the zombie.

Every nation has a government in the poses that the people allow it.

[210ox]

You are probably very naive. After all, Putin himself said that there is NECEM to change officials. As for the government and the people, I completely agree. We deserve this government.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: 210ox

officials to change some.

And what kind of garden vegetables do you need such officials sitting at their posts and receiving considerable money for this AND NOTHING DOING ANYTHING to defend the participation of Russian athletes at the Olympics!

WADA commission decided to ban Russian officials (including representatives of the Russian Olympic Committee) from attending international sports tournaments for the same period.

So let them now watch other people's competitions at home in their zombies, and do not travel abroad!

[Aleksandr1981]

I fully agree. Everyone is just waiting for something, but nobody wants to do it. In the factories of unit specialists, the majority only create the appearance of activity and scratch their tongue. We produce nikama unnecessary trash and complain about the low salary.

[Alex Justice]

Now in the networks you can, if you want, raise public opinion. At least write a letter to the Kremlin’s website and encourage people to vote for it. Against the muddy and others. That’s all you need to do at least an hour every day in the evening — look for like-minded people through the network and sign up your acquaintances and colleagues to sign up for acquaintances as well. Everything is within the law.

We have https://www.change.org/ Everyone can write a complaint. It works very effectively if it gains a lot of votes. For Julian Asange, more than 200000 signed up. The government stirred.

[astronom1973n]

Quote: Vladimir16

Does anyone have pride there?

What pride! They got involved ... as in a joke. They knew that they were closely watching doping, so they could not even present a report. Who will answer from the officials? Again, nobody. In my opinion, the bureaucrats from sports in their places have become too hungry, they need to be driven for what happened. there is no need to go to the Olympics and other doping "crush" under any circumstances, there is nothing to be disgraced, and money should not be paid to these "international" organizations.

[qQQQ]

Quote: Vladimir16

Does anyone have pride there?

As Churchill said: if you choose shame between war and shame, we get both war and shame. What we came to, it was necessary for the very first time to get involved in a fight, and not to kiss the master's boot.

[Alex Justice]

What we came to, it was necessary for the very first time to get involved in a fight, and not to kiss the master's boot.

It was necessary to organize a doping Olympics. Let the athletes swallow whatever they want. It will be fun to look at the stoned athletes.

[qQQQ]

Quote: Alex Justice

It was necessary to organize a doping Olympics. Let the athletes swallow whatever they want. It will be fun to look at the stoned athletes.

Sport without doping cannot exist, the body must recover from overloads, it’s just that in the West the process of covering the fifth point with a piece of paper with a diagnosis has been debugged, we have nothing to do with this for officials. Everyone should be on an equal footing, or everyone can, or for asthmatics, the Olympiad.

[Grigory b]

Quote: qqqq

Sports without doping cannot exist

But how did olympiads take place in ancient Rome? How did athletes recover then? I also understand skiers and biathletes of asthmatics, why do dignitaries eat dope, for example, and jumpers with a pole sixth from dizziness restore their body?

[qQQQ]

Quote: Grigory B

But how did olympiads take place in ancient Rome? How did athletes recover then? I also understand skiers and biathletes of asthmatics, why do dignitaries eat dope, for example, and jumpers with a pole sixth from dizziness restore their body?

In ancient Rome, sport was not professional, a sleigh rider, for starters, it is necessary to accelerate, among jumpers with a pole, some of the highest loads. Doping should support and restore, the ban should be stimulation, I don’t even know how to express it, excitement, increase in the pain threshold, in general, everything that leads to overloads that will lead to the destruction of the body.

[Alexga]

Bravo, Vladimir, you were the first to say who said about the pride and dignity of the state in these conditions. Thank!

[Victor N]

"Pride", "honor of the country" - all this is not for sports showmen.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Vladimir16

sports and on officials

So they struck the sickest for officials, on their trips abroad, for the sake of this they crawled. It was high time to ward off these parasites from freebies.

[Tatiana]

How great you said about pride. Mayakovsky's poems are instantly recalled .... the Soviets have their own pride, they look down on the bourgeoisie. "And the other day I read an article where the author said, in my opinion, very correctly ... while Russia is concerned about its reputation in the eyes of the Western world, its indispensable participation in structures in which the Western world has an advantage, it will always be punished by this Western world, if there is its will and desire.

[kjhg]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

Money is transferred, compensation has not yet been paid.

There is a game against the governor-communist. By all means, the oligarchic system is trying to get rid of the popular leader.

[tralmaster]

Not against the Communists, you do not deserve this title. And against Zyuganovschina if this happens. The most convenient to steal and dump on another.

[kjhg]

Quote: tralmaster

you do not deserve this title.

For your information, I am not a communist, but also against the ruling thieves' system in the country.

Quote: tralmaster

The most convenient to steal and dump on another.

As you precisely put it in relation to Putin's officials who steal billions.

[qQQQ]

Quote: kjhg

There is a game against the governor-communist.

Do you seriously believe in the integrity of the governor-communist? Yes, we have nowhere to put on any test, Grudinin is an example of this.

[ltc35]

They simply got rid of Grudinin. And they got rid of it clumsily. They drew accusations, made "proofs", found "deceived and dispossessed". There are many more examples like this. Thus, we got rid of charismatic personalities and potential leaders in the country and in sports in particular. And now to the question: Who should be in charge? Most will throw up their hands. Everything is cleaned up. So in sports, mediocrity and mediocrity are now driving, helping to cut sports money. Therefore, there is simply no one to defend the honor of our sport, our country. It's sad.

[qQQQ]

I completely agree with what was written above, besides the fact that they worked clumsy, Grudinin was allowed to do so because he already had a noose, and he threw it on himself, I don’t believe in honest and decent millionaires from the 90s.

[Boris Chernikov]

how about his “forgotten millions?” which he eventually recognized?

[ltc35]

This one at least admitted. Others are not.

[Den717]

Quote: kjhg

There is a game against the governor-communist. By all means, the oligarchic system is trying to get rid of the popular leader.

Is there only one communist governor in the party? That the party does not provide organizational assistance? Zyuganov has a "worthy" replacement for every post in the government. Long ago I would have sent a "crisis" team to help my partaigenosse. But Zyuganov either spit on a party member, or there is no one to send.

[Vovser]

What is popular among the people? Do you know anything about him? The real one. Which, when he was mayor of Angarsk, showed his incompetence as a manager, and for which the people did not vote, including in Angarsk. I don’t know how many grandmas he poured into the election and the result on his face. Voila and he is the governor. Salvage and not people voted for him. But in fact, at best, the prison cries.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

Mutko was the Minister of Sports, now Deputy Prime Minister, oversees the aftermath of the floods in Tulun. Money is transferred, compensation has not yet been paid.

But the bonuses were paid to the officials "who participated" in the elimination of the consequences in a timely manner ...

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Civil

Quote: carstorm 11

but what will it give?) you do not understand? we are punished for the same thing that was before this but in a new way) that says only one thing. they were looking for something but couldn’t find it and again twisted their own rules and laws) it’s called strangling) you’ll at least put someone there, everything will be the same. they are openly fighting with us and are ready for this even for that.

Nobody denies the share of politics; this is, of course, primarily a political and Russophobic decision. BUT it was not necessary to substitute.

Tell Norwegian "asthmatics". To the Williams siblings. Down Pellps the hysterical Bizle. This one in gymnastics in the USA drinks for fear that doctors are discharged.

[knn54]

What is doping for Russians, then is a medicine for western athletes.
And it's high time to "overcoat" domestic officials from sports.

[Sfurei]

One question: why only for 4 years? Let’s go for 30 years right away, until the new athletes grow up ... Do not smack nonsense: they have already been punished once (and even more than once), and then the farce begins ... like the OBS ..

[d4rkmesa]

Kolobkov fell into a typical western trap. Usually, it’s enough to apologize and admit guilt, and there shouldn’t be any complaints against you, well, like that. This is how Musk called the dude a pedophile, then deleted the tweet and apologized. But not this time, and not for the Russian [officials]. This booth will continue for a long time.

[Leeds]

Quote: Neznaika

This is not about a single use of doping or a specific athlete. We are talking about the unpleasant sports policy of the state. In this case, Russia.
And she, Russia, has already officially recognized the fact of state doping. And now you don't need to ask "why?"
Here's the thing.
If anyone has forgotten, at one time the President of the World Anti-Doping Agency WADA Craig Pischi received a letter from the sports authorities from Russia, which expresses regret in connection with the manipulation of doping tests.
The letter was signed by Russian Minister of Sports Pavel Kolobkov, President of the Russian Olympic Committee Alexander Zhukov and President of the Russian Paralympic Committee Vladimir Lukin.
Direct quote from the letter:
“The serious crisis that affected Russian sport was caused by unacceptable manipulations in the doping system, which were revealed during the investigation of independent commissions led by Richard Pound and Richard McLaren, as well as the IOC commission Samuel Schmid. On behalf of the organizations we represent, we We sincerely regret that these manipulations took place in Russia. We want to assure that all interested organizations have taken the necessary steps to comply with anti-doping rules. We want to assure you that we have learned a lesson from this crisis. Significant reforms are underway that will make the fight against doping in our country more effective ", 
Questions?

Maybe this is a fake letter? Or a wrong translation. We are told differently from the screens.

[New Year day]

Quote: Leeds

Maybe this is a fake letter? Or a wrong translation.

[ZAV69]

And what is incomprehensible here, our bureaucrats caved in. Well, what could Mclaren investigate while sitting in his hut at the writing desk? Where could he get the data if they were locked in the UK? Everything was sucked out of the finger. And there was a political order to lower the Russian team. So we got what we have, plus bent bureaucrats. Well now, then finally it’s all ..... If only these moron athletes from Russia with doping do not get anywhere.

[Alex Justice]

Craig Pischi, President of WADA World Anti-Doping Agency, received a letter from sports authorities from Russia expressing regret over the manipulation of doping samples.
The letter was signed by Russian Minister of Sports Pavel Kolobkov, President of the Russian Olympic Committee Alexander Zhukov and President of the Russian Paralympic Committee Vladimir Lukin.

There were manipulations. And he read the Chekist’s memoirs published long before the scandal. He mentioned that in the USSR, the KGB was involved in counterfeiting samples. Probably, everything worked perfectly until they grabbed by the hand.

[Boris Chernikov]

lol, "memoirs" .. it is also written on the fence .. and behind the fence there is firewood .. in fact, all the accusations were originally based on the words of Rodchenkov and his notes + a few scratches, that here, "samples were opened" .. and Rodchenkov, who is supposedly active he contributed to this and could not explain the principle of opening the samples and where did Russia get similar containers for samples ... in general, the topic was hushed up ... then, according to his records, 42 athletes were accused and deprived of their awards ... they filed a lawsuit ... the court eventually decided consider 39 cases, and the restriction was purely artificial ... of which 28 were justified ... moreover, even those about whom Rodchenkov shouted that he personally forged samples ... and 11 more sentences were reduced ... And all that the athletes did not were able to provide serious evidence that they did not take doping .. The current accusation is based on the fact that the transmitted database has traces of data substitution, and the traces are purely childish- "after the substitution, the admin introduced the wrong date format, introduced the American format, inAs a result, the date turned out to be incorrect, which made it possible to detect the substitution ".. Therefore, they named new 113 surnames .. they say we see that they changed something in the database ... They are accused of replacing the regular administrator ... When asked what Rodchenkov knew the login-password of this admin and that a large number of entries to the database from Western IPs were recorded WADA said: we do not think that this is Rodchenkov .. Well, this is not to mention the "ingenious" .. Rodchenkov allegedly allegorically discussed whose samples to clean in the program messenger. ...

[Alex Justice]

And here is Rodchenkov? Everything was long before him.

[Boris Chernikov]

oh? just all the accusations are based on his words

[qQQQ]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Tell Norwegian "asthmatics". To the Williams siblings. Down Pellps the hysterical Bizle. This one in gymnastics in the USA drinks for fear that doctors are discharged.

The problem is that all of their athletes are covered by a wagon of pieces of paper, and our officials only go abroad and do not want to work. There is a piece of paper, it means medicine, but no, then dope. I think that foreigners sincerely do not understand that there is a legal way to use doping and that we have little developed it, this is a jamb of officials.

[mark1]

You don’t have to give yourself an insult And you need to respect yourself and your country, and not try to penetrate even a carcass with at least a scarecrow assuring everyone that somewhere deep in themselves they sing the Russian anthem and twist figs to enemies.

[Leeds]

Quote: mark1

You don’t have to give yourself an insult And you need to respect yourself and your country, and not try to penetrate even a carcass with at least a scarecrow assuring everyone that somewhere deep in themselves they sing the Russian anthem and twist figs to enemies.

Such comments are issued by people absolutely far from sports. Who do not understand that athletes put their lives into Olympic results - the main starts that perpetuate both the name and the flag. And it is not their fault that someone was engaged in garbage.
You do not understand anything in sports, since you think that they are guilty of their desire to realize themselves.
And athletes must be appreciated, otherwise Sasha Barkova will continue to shine for the Finnish national team ...

[mark1]

Quote: Leeds

which perpetuate both the name and the flag.

Which flag? White?

Quote: Leeds

You do not understand anything in sports, since you think that they are guilty of their desire to realize themselves.

Yes, let them be realized for the sake of God, only if under the white flag - then this is their private affair! And I am rooting for my country and my flag and not for the fate of the conditional Pupkin and his personal sports lusts.
In general, we do not have enough good welders, that’s who we need to cultivate and not let go to Finland!

[not main]

Quote: mark1

Yes, let them be realized for the sake of God, only if under the white flag - then this is their private affair! And I am rooting for my country and my flag and not for the fate of the conditional Pupkin and his personal sports lusts.

I totally agree! I saw this white flag for the first time in Lillehammer 1992! And it became not interesting to watch and even more to "get sick"! Instead of the Red Banner ... a sheet with rings ...

[carstorm 11]

but it’s impossible not to substitute) it basically doesn’t happen) just when the Rodchenkovs begin to appear and on the basis of his statements do conclusions are made that can be opposed?) they don’t need proof) they have enough statements from someone. if he hadn’t bought another, that’s all. I repeat this war. and what’s more lousy is that I persistently don’t understand who will benefit from all this. so threw out the World Cup or something that people quietly went here? nervous reaction?

[Oden280]

What has to do with substituting? Doping in "big sport" is devoured by everyone, without exception. And here is just an order and a team for execution. Yes, if nothing was there, they would still find everything they need. You just need to send both wada and mok and everyone else. The prestige of the nation is not a bunch of mutants who gobble up any chemistry, but the health and physical culture of the entire population. This is what you need to spend money on.

[Terenin]

Quote: carstorm 11

they are openly fighting with us and are ready for this even for that.

You're right . Anglo-Saxons are with us are fightingaccording to the rules of war (informational, ideological, economic ... fifth column ...) in all directions, and we are all with them are working Well, who will win !? Going to war or going to work?

[Kronos]

In general, Russia found it and paying fines

[Simargl]

Quote: carstorm 11

and what will it give?

The current state of affairs with a doping agency, 90% - the result of unprofessionalism, weak will and character, greed of functionaries from sports!
There would be a tough and correct reaction to the first accusations - they would not drive a wave on us now (or to a lesser extent). And now, having felt their impunity, they will press harder, it will cost us more and more (and financially including).

So I agree:

Quote: Civil

It is necessary to conduct a debriefing, or rather crashes with sports officials.

[Revival]

Judging by the statement of the director of Rusad, who himself admitted repeated (new) violations, we are not punished for the same thing.
The author either did not understand the issue or intentionally did not mention the essence of the new claims

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: carstorm 11

but what will it give?) you do not understand? we are punished for the same as before

We (Russians) are not being punished. It is only in the film that a certain cardinal can declare that:

There is no people that can not be put in the Bastille

The people of Russia showed weakness. The people of Russia chose such a government when they became a slave in their own country. But recently they warned:

... the enemies of the people set as their main task the overthrow of the Soviet system, the restoration of capitalism and the power of the bourgeoisie in the USSR, which in this case would turn into a raw materials appendage of the West, and the Soviet people into miserable slaves of world imperialism. An important place in the plans of the enemies of the people was occupied by: undermining the economic and military power of the USSR, assisting foreign aggressors in attacking the USSR, and preparing for the military defeat of the USSR.
Having seized power and established Bonapartist orders in the country, relying on the counterrevolutionary arsenal armed with them, on criminal and declassified elements, these despicable and miserable traitors intended first of all to abandon socialist property by selling privately owned capitalist elements to our economic facilities that are economically important. Under the guise of unprofitable liquidate state farms and dissolve collective farms. Transfer tractors and other complex agricultural machines to individual peasants, called by them farmers, for the revival of the kulak system in the village. To enslave the country by obtaining foreign loans. To give our industrial enterprises important for the imperialist states for concession. Give Japan Sakhalin oil, and Ukraine -Germany. At the same time, the condemned enemies of the people sought by all means to undermine the combat effectiveness of the Soviet armed forces.
Here is what, for example, one of the active participants in the anti-Soviet conspiracy, Sokolnikov, said about the plans of the enemies of the people at the trial: “... We understood that in our program guidelines we need to return to capitalism and put forward a program of capitalism, because then we will be able to rely on certain layers in the country - to create a small capitalist environment, small traders, a petty bourgeoisie. " And further: "The path to power lay through the gradual restoration of capitalist elements, which would have crowded out and, to a certain extent, replaced the socialist elements."
At the trials, the enemies of the people admitted that they "directed their efforts to" break the backbone of the party "and at the same time" break the backbone "of Soviet power."
The roots of this company, this gang had to be found in the caches of foreign intelligence, who bought these people, took them for their maintenance, paid for their faithful servile service. And we found these roots.
Foreign intelligence worked tirelessly, looking for and finding, unfortunately, allies in our country, helpers among, however, decomposed people hostile to the Soviet system ...
...two programs fought in the country - implacable, like deadly enemies, facing one against the other. Two programs, two camps.On the one hand, a small group of people divorced from the people and hostile to the people, who became agents of foreign intelligence, on the other hand - working people, building a bright socialist society, providing them with a free and well-fed life.
I. Stalin. Speeches at an enlarged meeting of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU (B.)

Guess who won? Now answer for yourself - are they so interested in the prestige of the country that they betrayed and sold?

[Doliva63]

Quote: ROSS 42

Quote: carstorm 11

but what will it give?) you do not understand? we are punished for the same as before

We (Russians) are not being punished. It is only in the film that a certain cardinal can declare that:

There is no people that can not be put in the Bastille

The people of Russia showed weakness. The people of Russia chose such a government when they became a slave in their own country. But recently they warned:

... the enemies of the people set as their main task the overthrow of the Soviet system, the restoration of capitalism and the power of the bourgeoisie in the USSR, which in this case would turn into a raw materials appendage of the West, and the Soviet people into miserable slaves of world imperialism. An important place in the plans of the enemies of the people was occupied by: undermining the economic and military power of the USSR, assisting foreign aggressors in attacking the USSR, and preparing for the military defeat of the USSR.
Having seized power and established Bonapartist orders in the country, relying on the counterrevolutionary arsenal armed with them, on criminal and declassified elements, these despicable and miserable traitors intended first of all to abandon socialist property by selling privately owned capitalist elements to our economic facilities that are economically important. Under the guise of unprofitable liquidate state farms and dissolve collective farms. Transfer tractors and other complex agricultural machines to individual peasants, called by them farmers, for the revival of the kulak system in the village. To enslave the country by obtaining foreign loans. To give our industrial enterprises important for the imperialist states for concession. Give Japan Sakhalin oil, and Ukraine -Germany. At the same time, the condemned enemies of the people sought by all means to undermine the combat effectiveness of the Soviet armed forces.
Here is what, for example, one of the active participants in the anti-Soviet conspiracy, Sokolnikov, said about the plans of the enemies of the people at the trial: “... We understood that in our program guidelines we need to return to capitalism and put forward a program of capitalism, because then we will be able to rely on certain layers in the country - to create a small capitalist environment, small traders, a petty bourgeoisie. " And further: "The path to power lay through the gradual restoration of capitalist elements, which would have crowded out and, to a certain extent, replaced the socialist elements."
At the trials, the enemies of the people admitted that they "directed their efforts to" break the backbone of the party "and at the same time" break the backbone "of Soviet power."
The roots of this company, this gang had to be found in the caches of foreign intelligence, who bought these people, took them for their maintenance, paid for their faithful servile service. And we found these roots.
Foreign intelligence worked tirelessly, looking for and finding, unfortunately, allies in our country, helpers among, however, decomposed people hostile to the Soviet system ...
...two programs fought in the country - implacable, like deadly enemies, facing one against the other. Two programs, two camps.On the one hand, a small group of people divorced from the people and hostile to the people, who became agents of foreign intelligence, on the other hand - working people, building a bright socialist society, providing them with a free and well-fed life.
I. Stalin. Speeches at an enlarged meeting of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU (B.)

Guess who won? Now answer for yourself - are they so interested in the prestige of the country that they betrayed and sold?

I am surprised at you!

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: carstorm 11

they are openly fighting with us and are ready for this even for that.

They are ready for any muck, in all areas. It is necessary to peel ahead and extremely hard. Also give officials nuts for ..

[syndicalist]

we are punished for the same as before but on a new one)

Not certainly in that way. Now they are punishing for falsifying the database transferred to WADA in January of this year.

[orionvitt]

Quote: carstorm 11

we are punished for the same as before

The fact of the matter is that before "this", there was nothing. The whole story with Rodchenko has been sucked from the thumb. It was he on American TV channels, who talked excitedly about the universal doping in Russian sports. And at the American court, where he was summoned as a witness, he briskly changed his shoes, began to mumble, and in the end declared that he had not seen anything, knew nothing. And all his talk about doping, this is how he "thinks". They asked about the "Rodchenko formula," he lowed for a long time, then he gave birth to an excellent wording that he "did not remember." And before that, based on the fairy tales of this individual, the Russian national team was turned off. Where is the west heading? I hope the whole world sees everything perfectly and draws appropriate conclusions. Not in the sense that America should be feared, but that it is high time to do something. And some are already kicking up, even among the most loyal allies of the United States in the past.

[Puss in Boots]

Rusada was recognized as one of the best anti-doping agencies in the world this year, so what? Wada purely punitive organ of the Democratic Party of the USA

[carstorm 11]

I think athletes should make their own choices. they want to let them go wherever they want. I personally vote that I do not watch such competitions and that’s it.

[Roten roten]

Not only the Russian Federation, but the world has not seen such a shame! And officials from the Russian Federation are to blame for the removal! Two-time Olympic champion, former leader of Rossport Vyacheslav Fetisov commented on the situation with possible sanctions against Russian sports in connection with the recommendation of the committee of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA).
The committee recommended that the executive committee for 4 years deprive Russian athletes of the opportunity to compete in international competitions under the flag of the country, as well as prohibit holding major international tournaments in Russia.
“I am worried about young athletes who have reached a serious level and may not be allowed because of someone else’s mistakes.

There is minimal hope that WADA will make a different decision, but we are the most disgraced country in the history of world sports, and, apparently, the world sports community is radical, ”said Fetisov. And the Head of Rusada admitted the substitution https://sportrbc.ru/news/5da5bdba9a7947bb4eb5c9e8?ruid=NaN So what does the politics have to do with it?

[Nastia makarova]

Yes, do not care for the Olympics, we must generally get out of the Mok

[Oleg Zorin]

Cat, do not distort. There are no complaints about RusADA. This was confirmed today by Ganus. But to officials, and specifically to the Minister of Sports Kolobkov there. And officials are a state.

[GKS 2111]

Well, will we wash ourselves again and take part under a white neutral flag? Yes, they all go through the woods ... We are at the door, we are out the window, so it looks ... Must we have pride or not?

[The leader of the Redskins]

Not deadly, but very unpleasant ...

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Not deadly, but very unpleasant ...

This is deadly for Russian sports ...

[Terenin]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Not deadly, but very unpleasant ...

Nazarii so if we compare it with death, then this is our "lucky ticket" . Why do we, for our bureaucrats at the Ministry of Sports and the IOC, come up with excuses?
We will see how they, reluctantly and offended, will trample asses over the courts and arbitrations.

[Revival]

Most likely they will not trample, the director of the Rusada himself admitted that there were again violations, some changes in the databases on doping samples before transfer. But apparently arrogant or clumsy, and it immediately became clear.
It turns out that since he immediately admitted with a view that they say I was powerless here, he apparently hinted that there was nowhere to go, I say the man himself is a little, I have nothing to do with it

[vvvjak]

Quote: GKS 2111

What, again, wash ourselves and take part under a white neutral flag?

I propose for citizens of the Russian Federation and Belarus to introduce dual citizenship: both the integration of peoples and athletes under the flag of the Republic of Belarus will be able to speak.

[Oleg Zorin]

Dear, why does your thought work in the direction of how to deceive your neighbor? Maybe it’s better to let the IC understand who and what data was transmitted to WADA, whether there were any changes, etc. Ganus believes that Minister Kolobkov transferred the changed bases.

[Same lech]

Our sports officials chose exactly that and paid this shame at our expense ... I am deeply outraged by the toothless position of the sports leadership of Russia ... a disgrace.

[GKS 2111]

I agree. We chose both war and shame. It’s disgusting to look at it ... In Soviet times, they tried to bend us at 80, and we bent them at 84. Now the game is in one goal, damn it ...

[Doliva63]

Quote: GKS 2111

I agree. We chose both war and shame. It’s disgusting to look at it ... In Soviet times, they tried to bend us at 80, and we bent them at 84. Now the game is in one goal, damn it ...

Well, that’s not Soviet time, alas

[Oleg Zorin]

Actually, this is from a poem by Rudyard Kipling.

[zloybond]

On the day of negotiations - this is so that the president is more accommodating today - we are for you - you are for us. They need gas and transit through non-gas. War is war - but it is necessary to crush something.

[Vadim237]

And what about gas transit here?

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Civil

It is necessary to conduct a debriefing, or rather crashes with sports officials.

Yeah - WADA must be dealt with once and for all! As well as the IOC, if also these get bored ...

[Gray brother]

Quote: Civil

It’s necessary to conduct a debriefing,

A boycott must be announced for the same period.

[Shelest2000]

If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it receives both war and shame (s)
This I mean that something like that was expected and even there was confidence in it. It was necessary even then, at past games, to slam the door and refuse to play under the white capitulationist flag. How's Cord - "I don't play with goats!" This is how it was necessary to do, and not constantly erase the spit in the face.
But ... But the current "rulers" do not care about the honor and conscience of the country.

[georggy]

YOU ARE Mutko?

[cost]

Once caved in, now there will always be a hundred reasons not to allow our country anywhere. Everything needs to be done, otherwise we pay, and we are also bent. The USSR in this respect was tougher and right, everyone respected !!!!

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Rusj

You have to do your Championships! In vain they do it, I think they will soon get tired and they will already begin to soar already unbearably endure this hat. Pure policy.

It’s necessary, but who will come? It’s not clear what will happen to Syria, Iran, Venezuela and some representatives of Africa. And the organizer to appoint a new face - Mutko! Why new? Well, now he is managing another, which means it will be new for today's sport. You are absolutely right that world sport is politics. Now evaluate the impact on sport (i.e. politics) of Putin's RF.
No, here it is not already necessary to start with sports, sports are just a consequence. A consequence of the complete dependence and agreement of the "elites" of the Russian Federation with the West. As V.V. Putin:
Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting of the Valdai International Discussion Club said that the possible removal of the national team or the performance of Russian athletes flying a neutral flag at the 2018 Olympic Games in South Pyeongchang will be a humiliation for the country.
And-and-and ....? It's scary for the first time, unpleasant, and then nothing, a person is not a pig, he can get used to everything. Especially if you explain to him all the time that it's okay, you can do that, the flag is not so important, participation is important. For this, then and gifts from the state are valuable. But what, the current "patriotism" from the state, he does not have a flag or belonging. However, the current "elite" of the Russian Federation has a flag that it will never change, whatever you do with it, here it is:

PS And there is no longer any policy, pure profit and cash. But in these matters, the "elite" of the Russian Federation is as strong as few.
I do sports regularly, even in my own, not young years. But for the competitions, especially the world ones, I have not watched or watched for a long time, I can not make myself admire the state shame.

[Vadim237]

At least over 20 countries will certainly be.

[Black_Vatnik]

There are already championships. But who are they interested in besides ourselves?
The funny thing is that soon the IOC will say that Russian athletes can participate under the white flag.
Well, you know these miraculous properties of a white rag. Under the tricolor, the athlete is a malicious chemist, and having raised the white flag above himself, he cleans himself of contamination. Logic, live)

[opus]

Quote: Rusj

You have to do your Championships!

among 140 million people?

Quote: Rusj

Pure policy.

?
2018 Doping officers arrived in Irkutsk. 36 athletes immediately starred

13 people submitted certificates of illness,
23 did not appear.
11 adults, 4 athletes under 23 years old, 14 juniors under 20 years old, 7 girls under 18 years old have withdrawn from the tournament.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: opus

2018 Doping officers arrived in Irkutsk. 36 athletes immediately starred

Probably thumped on the eve)))))))

[opus]

Quote: Stroporez

Probably thumped on the eve)))))))

Disputes
thumped ... then I pass.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: opus

Disputes
thumped ... then I pass.

There is still an assumption that they were poisoned to diarrhea by sauerkraut, but to dope Nah, I can’t think so, since these are the intrigues of the gas department !!!

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Stroporez

Probably thumped on the eve

This could be written only by a person who has never been involved in sports (professionally) ... Or, an amateur "to put the collar".

Quote: opus

11 adults, 4 athletes under 23 years old, 14 juniors under 20 years old, 7 girls under 18 years old have withdrawn from the tournament.

Everyone has long known that pure sport does not exist. There is a competition of pharmacologists. In which, we are losing.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: LiSiCyn

This could be written, only a person himself has never been involved in sports (professionally) ..

Do you perceive humor or?
And about the competition of farmers, I will tell you that any stimulant is a kind of drug. I personally knew two professional cyclists who, after the end of their sports career, became real jokes, I think that such cases are not isolated. Therefore, the whole world began to fight doping.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Stroporez

Do you perceive humor or?

Such "specific", no. You happen to be here, you start to push this ... What the impression is, constantly on "doping". Be careful with this, my advice to you.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: LiSiCyn

What is the impression

Do you know a joke about a girl with a panama hat? Here you do nehru, you add up, although it seemed as an adequate person.

[VeteranVSSSR]

Quote: LiSiCyn

Quote: Stroporez

Probably thumped on the eve

This could be written only by a person who has never been involved in sports (professionally) ... Or, an amateur "to put the collar".

Quote: opus

11 adults, 4 athletes under 23 years old, 14 juniors under 20 years old, 7 girls under 18 years old have withdrawn from the tournament.

Everyone has long known that pure sport does not exist. There is a competition of pharmacologists. In which, we are losing.

About forty years ago there was a saying - ,, athletes do not smoke, but ... how they (athletes) drink !!!

[Vladimir16]

Quote: opus

among 140 million people?

Anton, we organized competitions at school among classes.
In the city among schools.
There were regional and regional competitions.

Do you live recently in this world?

140 million people is a lot. Lots of. Try to count to this figure. You’ll count the year, if fast. Neither sleep nor eat. Just take it.

But most importantly, 140 million people are the population of OUR COUNTRY.

What did our people not please you?

[opus]

Quote: Vladimir16

we organized competitions at school among classes.

I myself CCM for LA.
BUT!
1. then there was the USSR (280 million people?) + CMEA countries (311-280 million =) + sympathizers and non-affiliates (all sorts of Cambodia and Africa)
CMEA total GDP was 3 trillion dollars.
and chichas?
2. Previously, the athletes were different (honor, country, Volga / apartment)

and chichas?
Elena Isinbaeva = the athlete’s largest advertising contract brought her $ 1,5 million (96,1 billion rubles) for the year. For one contract, Elena Isinbayeva receives from 200 thousand euros (14,4 million rubles) "clean".
I do not consider her money ....
But

What Russian athletes live abroad (2013)

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Tennis player Maria Sharapova lives and trains in the United States from the age of seven. Her home is in Bradenton, Florida.

Tennis player Nadezhda Petrova has been living in Miami (USA) for the last three years, where, according to her, “the climate is excellent, there are no traffic jams, and all conditions have been created for playing tennis”.

Russian swimmer Vladimir Morozov, a bronze medalist at the London Olympics, has been living in Los Angeles (USA) for 14 years, where he trains with renowned mentor David Salo.

Swimmer Julia Efimova also moved to Los Angeles to train David Salo.

Swimmer Andrei Grechin moved to Switzerland, where he trains with the famous Russian specialist Gennady Turetsky.

Cyclist Irina Kalentyeva, bronze medalist at the Beijing Olympics, in 2003 moved to Germany, to the city of Aalen.

Maxim Belkov, a Russian cyclist from the Katyusha team, lives in Italy, in the Tuscan town of Prato, where he moved from Izhevsk.

Jumping in the water Anastasia Pozdnyakova, Beijing silver medalist, lives and trains in the city of Houston in the United States.

Russian professional boxer Sergei Kovalev, a light heavyweight champion, lives and trains in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

Skater Lyubov Ilyushechkina, world champion in 2009 among juniors, in 2012 broke up with her partner Nodari Maysuradze and moved to France. She plans to perform with the French athlete Yannick Cocoon.

Irina Rodnina is famous, first of all, as a three-time Olympic figure skating champion.
joined the faction "United Russia" + deputy, but dual citizenship, hthen for politicians is prohibited by the law of the Russian Federation.

Quote: Vladimir16

What did our people not please you?

I did not say this, I myself live here and rest in peace

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Vladimir16

Try to count to this figure. You’ll count the year, if fast.

If fast - 4 and a little years.
As for the competition, the Russian team must appear under the national flag (even if the USSR) and listen to their own anthem.
Russian athletes have the right to go to international competitions. But, if they ride them outside the national team, then it is their business, the flag of which country will be raised and which anthem will be played in honor of their victory ...
The situation was fair when sports functionaries were responsible for their affairs "in full", and not by transplanting from one chair to another.
Selling, incompetent leadership - this is the reason for all the failures in the sport, and not only ...

[opus]

Quote: ROSS 42

Russian athletes have the right to go to international competitions.

there is such a question .. at whose expense "ride"?
Athletes are not going on their own?

Training for Olympians is carried out in sections of the article “Sports of the highest achievements”

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Under this budget item of the Ministry of Sports in 2014–2018, the state spent annually from 46,7 billion to 80,7 billion rubles. More than half of the costs in this section are financing the program for preparing for the 2018 World Cup in Russia - for the construction of stadiums, infrastructure, etc. Excluding the costs of preparing for the World Cup, the annual federal budget expenditures on top-level sports are 22-25 billion rubles.


funds for the payment of “presidential scholarships” to former and current members of the Olympic national teams (1,152 billion rubles annually.). Scholarship in the amount of 32 thousand rubles. 3 thousand people get monthly.
Through the Ministry of Sports, Russia annually pays contributions to UNESCO and WADA to combat doping. UNESCO annually receives € 150-200 thousand for these purposes. Before annulling the Russian anti-doping agency RUSADA of accreditation with WADA, Russia annually expelled this the organization has more than $ 1 million and was one of the largest payers in it.

By order of Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, 237,7 million rubles were allocated. from the reserve fund “for financial support of activities related to the purchase of foreign currency for sending members of the sports teams of the Russian Federation to training events abroad and to participate in sports events abroad”

All these billions of rubles and millions of dollars are paid out of pocket by Dmitry Anatolyevich, and non-members of the presidential administration are discounted, right?

[Revival]

Well, that’s the reason, and the rest is only a consequence.
Reason: dope
Consequence: they beat because of political motives.
Everyone uses doping, but they beat us because of politics.
And the desire to beat us is growing, as we react "correctly": we humiliate ourselves, wipe ourselves

[opus]

Quote: Revival

Consequence: they beat because of political motives.

if there were no doping, they would not have beaten.
It’s just that someone (we won’t say who it was Mudko and the team) wanted to please (show that it was not in vain that we spent $ 50 billion on Sochi) we won’t tell anyone, although everyone knows who it is and went to all sorts of shur -Mura, then there would not be this problem.
There is no court.
It is necessary to do according to the mind. Like Norwegians: since childhood, "Asmatics" and dope drugs and everything in a bunch
A "Let mi spik from may hart"

for some reason I did it (we look at the faces of talking people)

This has never happened, and here again

who suffered the punishment? As
Promotion yes got

[Revival]

Well, here I have nothing to add ...

[Revival]

Well, that’s the answer to everything.
And it remains only to add policies to understand why we were chosen for whipping

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Rusj

You have to do your Championships!

So we have the Championships of Russia

[RUSS]

Quote: Rusj

You have to do your Championships! In vain they do it, I think they will soon get tired and they will already begin to soar already unbearably endure this hat. Pure policy.

You, without knowing the matter, have drawn politics, do you generally know about the problem of doping in Russian sport?


The head of RUSADA called for radical changes in Russian sport
15.11.2019

Doping control at the Sochi Winter Olympics (Photo from archive)
In Russian sport, nothing will change if the old guard of functionaries who worked by dirty methods does not leave, Yuri Ganus said. WADA Executive Committee will receive recommendations determining the fate of RUSADA, November 17.
The head of the Russian Anti-Doping Agency (RUSADA) Yuri Ganus again called for radical changes in the sport of Russia. The old guard of officials, functionaries working with dirty methods "must leave the ministry and the sports federations, otherwise nothing will change," Ganus was quoted as saying on Friday, November 15, by the online edition Spiegel Online.

For the past few years, Russia has constantly featured in the headlines on doping scandals, the newspaper notes. Now the Russian Federation is again suspected of falsifying the data of the Moscow anti-doping laboratory. The country's sports minister, Pavel Kolobkov, says there was no manipulation, citing technical problems. "This is nonsense," says Ganus, adding that the sports minister lives in a world of illusion.

Earlier in an interview with The New York Times, the head of RUSADA said that the results of thousands of doping tests of an indefinite number of athletes were changed in Russia. According to him, the data on doping tests were "hidden and replaced" to protect the reputation and current position of former outstanding athletes who today hold various positions in the Russian government or are high-ranking sports officials. For his position, Spiegel Online notes, Ganus in Russia is subjected to slander and threats.

[Revival]

I just for such a comment about this interview attacked silently minus.
Well, people like to think that we have all the rules and attacked us only because of politics and they invented everything against us.
It’s unpleasant for people to admit the idea that our responsible for this issue themselves were framed, and we were caught with such talents as May Speak ...

[Voyager]

In vain they do it, I think they will soon get tired

Do you really believe that they will get tired of getting paid for it?

[sniperino]

Quote: Rusj

You have to do your Championships!

Refuse any payments to OK, wada and others, and bring countries together for competitions like "sport - a world without politics", alternative to the Olympic Games? Unlikely because politics will be written on their foreheads, but there is no other way in sight.

[not main]

Quote: Rusj

You have to do your Championships! In vain they do it, I think they will soon get tired and they will already begin to soar already unbearably endure this hat. Pure policy.

That's just pure politics! Here's just a question: Why the heck should have joined this WADA, WTO and other "organizations"? Do we still believe in fairy tales? Good must be with iron fists! Only then can it defeat evil!

[Roten roten]

Correctly! It is necessary to hold the All-Russian Olympiad and compete only by themselves! Moreover, Russian athletes are the strongest in the world, and never use doping!

[Oleg Zorin]

What are "their" championships? Courtyard team tournaments are of no interest to anyone. With open borders, any talented athletes will leave. Do you not understand the obvious things or out of despair?

[Tatiana]

And Peskov said that the holding of alternative international competitions in the Kremlin is not discussed (

[cniza]

It is further noted that the WADA commission decided to ban Russian officials (including representatives of the Russian Olympic Committee) from attending international sports tournaments for the same period.

They do not have this right, they can only recommend ... this is the work of the CIA and others from the United States.

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: cniza

They do not have this right, they can only recommend ... this is the work of the CIA and others from the United States.

The decision of the Executive Committee of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) on possible sanctions against Russian sports, which will be adopted on December 9 at a meeting in Paris, will be binding on the International Olympic Committee (IOC).

This was announced at a press conference following a meeting of the IOC Executive Committee, President of the organization Thomas Bach.

"It (the decision) will be mandatory. The Olympic Charter says about the adoption of the anti-doping code, so if the decision is made in accordance with the anti-doping code, then it will be mandatory for the IOC," - quoted by Baja TASS.

More details: https://www.newsru.com/sport/05dec2019/ioc.html

[polar fox]

they still have to throw grandmothers ... and raise the pension, or remove pensions altogether.

[Rusj]

Without Russia, all this turns into a squabble between asmatics and drug addicts of the West. Laughter !!!

[IGOR GORDEEV]

Quote: Rusj

Without Russia, all this turns into a squabble between asmatics and drug addicts of the West. Laughter !!!

To whom laughter, and to whom grief.

[Vladimir16]

And to whom grief? Can you tell us more?

[Avior]

Athletes who have trained since childhood, but cannot perform

[yfast]

Why can't they speak? Doping tests do not pass under a neutral flag? The ban on World Cup in Russia should not interfere. In general, it was necessary to cover up this doping business for a long time, and not to pretend that they covered up.

[Voyager]

So you read what they write with us right now (the same as they wrote in the past OI). In a nutshell, many citizens blasphemed our athletes performing under a neutral flag, they say, no pride and what for they are needed. And the donors, these couches, seem never to think that for athletes these medals are the main goal of all life at this stage.

[Avior]

will not be able to take samples in Rusada
Athletes have long taken doping samples not only before the competition, but at any time

[Revival]

A country that is disgraced, those who make decisions about our reaction on her behalf

[Snarkxnumx]

I am sorry, my friends, citizens, it hurts to watch how athletes without a flag and homeland perform. Somehow not far away you think. Aren't you keen?

[PValery53]

It was a mistake to pay huge fines for alleged violations by Russia. WADA, sensing this, became completely insolent. The entire composition of WADA should be limited in freedom and put on trial in Russia. For starters, at least one WAD little soul! - They are completely overwhelmed !!

[Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)]

put on trial in Russia

Mutkoy already convicted by a Russian court?

[Snarkxnumx]

Mutko even promoted. Will utilities crush))))

[Kronos]

So international law does not work, even the United States will not drag the court for a court decision that they did not like

[Revival]

Well, the United States may perhaps drag it.
But above themselves, they do not officially recognize any international courts

[Fibrizio]

We don’t just pay, if memory serves, they also admitted publicly that there were violations.
So how did it happen, our officials cheated, admitting that they were cheating on WADA?
Not beating.
And it will end up with all the promising guys going to speak for those who are more interesting and who have more opportunities. They do not care about politics with Vova. They have 10 years of career, well maybe more. Did not have time - free.

[askort154]

".... the WADA Commission decided to ban Russian officials (including representatives of the Russian Olympic Committee) from attending international sports tournaments for the same period ..."

And. Russian citizens should not be allowed to watch sports reports on TV. Since, they do not watch them without doping.

[igorra]

Like the classics - they wanted peace, they got a war. Thinking people talked about this when officials, led by a guarantor, with foam at the mouth defended athletes who laid on us and wished to appear under a neutral flag. Why cry, look above.

[figwam]

Quote: igorra

As there with the classics - they wanted peace, got a war

Choose a shame, now get the war.

[Fibrizio]

Their job is to be an athlete.
If the state screwed up, why should they suffer?
Their goal is a place at the Olympics in the top three winners. Why do honest athletes have to suffer because of someone who took doping and slept, and those who allowed taking dope and could not cover up?

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Well that's to be expected. "Surprise" before the Normandy format. Maybe we'll be more accommodating. Oh well.
When are we starting to answer ?!

[Rusj]

Worth for this, it’s not exactly what kind of mowing. The farmers got stuck along the way and also get a gzk

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Rusj

Worth for this, it’s not exactly what kind of mowing. The farmers got stuck along the way and also get a gzk

I would like to believe.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Well that's to be expected. "Surprise" before the Normandy format. Maybe we'll be more accommodating. Oh well.
When are we starting to answer ?!

After the denunciation of the Bialowieza conspiracy, not earlier.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Doliva63

After the denunciation of the Bialowieza conspiracy, not earlier.

A colleague, from the point of view of the laws of the USSR, the Bialowieza conspiracy is an insignificant agreement. The collapse of the USSR is the largest scam in the history of mankind.
By the way, even look at the codes, then all state institutions are LLC or aozt, starting from justices of the peace and ending with ministries. The question is really serious, because according to the laws of the USSR, the same Gorbachev, ebna and others scrambled state treason and forehead in the green. But there seems to be no country and no responsibility, and now the situation is repeating itself. By the way, the ladies at the moment is the general director. aozt rf, hence the elimination after 30 years legislative acts of the USSR, and since they are trying to cancel them, then they are acting !!!

[soldat tv]

Suspended for four years. It will take three, then they will remove another four. This is all politics.

[Naive]

Maybe this is not bad? Maybe it will reach the top faster that they are NOBODY there! And here they will begin to create conditions for life and defend the interests of the country more firmly.

[Terenin]

Quote: Naive

Maybe this is not bad? Maybe it will reach the top faster that they are NOBODY there! And here they will begin to create conditions for life and defend the interests of the country more firmly.

Well, this part is certainly not bad :

In addition, the WADA Executive Committee imposed a four-year ban on attending international sporting events by Russian civil servants and the leadership of the Russian Olympic Committee (ROC)

[Alexey from Perm]

How do you want? Have caved in once, now get it in full! Big sport is big politics, that's where the "dear partners" beat us. Right now, apparently we'll pay the penalty and compensation again?

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Alexey from Perm

How do you want? Have caved in once, now get it in full! Big sport is big politics, that's where the "dear partners" beat us. Right now, apparently we'll pay the penalty and compensation again?

Not at all. In the course of money, Mok will not receive more. Not a horse feed. How many do not give them. Devour and do not choke.

[Revival]

The European Parliament has received.
Mok got it.
And again they will receive, there is no reason to think otherwise.
We wiped ourselves wherever we said ...
And what statements were loud for every occasion!
As a result, before each wipe ...
No one has the right to dishonor the country!

[Thrifty]

This is a game in a circle, for Russia's attempt to become an independent country, for unwillingness to dance to the tune of the same USA. It will last forever as long as there is the United States, which command the whole world with one snout. There will be an imitation of attempts to "improve relations with Russia", and then on new wagons of sanctions! They will try to strangle us just because we are on this planet! Now Putin needs to immediately return to Russia, remove the US embassy from Moscow, lower the status of their embassy to a representative office, demand the immediate creation of a new anti-doping agency, recognize WADA as illegitimate because of the constant populist anti-Russian political decisions that have nothing to do with sports! No neutral flags, WADA2 must be in a neutral European country.

[den3080]

better in neutral Asian - in China, for example.

[BARKHAN]

Plus to you. But this is not enough. This is an attack on Russia. A terrorist act. There must be a court. And the intelligence services to drag these officials to prisons to shove. Stop any broadcast of competitions where there is no Russia.
I was categorically against neutral flags. Well, and now, having felt the slack, they will be led by the childbearing organ along the rye ...
This is the result of weakness and toothlessness, yes, that there is an incompetence of our government. Our government humiliated the country. I have mourning. And anger.

[vvnab]

for Russia's attempt to become an independent country, for its unwillingness to dance to the tune of the same usa

The fact of the matter is that Russia is not an independent country, but is only trying to appear as such. At first, we were struggling to integrate ourselves into the world economy on third roles, and now we are trying to pose as a world leader. Not a hat for Senka. That's what they beat for.

[balunn]

No one will do it. Ryltsa in the gun

[Alex Justice]

It’s easier to be honest, not to fake doping samples.

[svp67]

The reports said that WADA functionaries, "having discussed the application of the college of athletes," decided to remove Russia from hosting the World Championships and from submitting applications for them for a period of 4 years.

I'm wondering how many people in this "college of athletes" have "therapeutic exceptions"? In general, I did not expect anything else. The more we sing to the tune of the West, the more they will become impudent ... They don’t want to see us at their competitions, let’s direct all the money to the development of physical culture and sports in the country, let’s tear children away from computers and smartphones.

[dr.mel51]

I support the killing of people by sports should stop with doping, whether it is or not, or in any case, the state support should be removed from professional sports and returned to physical education.

[demo]

It turns out that Russia is going to be punished again for violations, if there were such violations at all. This is an amazingly absurd precedent in international jurisprudence, not to mention sport.

Absurdity is not in this decision.
Absurdity consists of two things.
1. We look forward to a fair and impartial hearing.
2. Putin couldn’t get rid of a trembling loving father of his unreasonable children-friends.

[Operator]

The overwhelming majority of votes in WADA are with Western countries and always will be.

Four years will pass and Russia will be banned from playing at the world championships under any other pretext. On the other hand, sports associations and individual US athletes, if necessary, send WADA far and long and they never do anything for it.

Therefore, the sooner Russia leaves the WADA and starts hosting its own world championships and sports events, the better.

And let the International Olympic Committee scratch its turnips and hold its doping Olympics under the control of WADA without us.

[UserGun]

Quote: Operator

The overwhelming majority of votes in WADA are with Western countries and always will be.

So they UNANIMOUSLY voted ... What does the overwhelming have to do with it? You see ALL! And with this you will reckon. What is there to be offended if one way or another, WADA includes almost all the countries of the world.

[Operator]

Let "everyone" and go to the ass with their doping sport - one (USA, Norway, etc.) can do everything, others nothing.

We ourselves will conduct open championships of Russia in various sports with commercial prizes - these "all" will flock like flies to honey.

[UserGun]

Quote: Operator

Norway

And what about Norway?

[Operator]

Norwegian skiers - "asthmatics" - really have not heard?

[UserGun]

in 2015 year 25 Russian athletes received appropriate permits from RUSADA to taking drugs against asthma http://www.sportfakt.ru/others/95512/....Не было что ли этого?

[Operator]

How many permits did Russian athletes receive in 2019?

[UserGun]

Sorry, but it sounds so funny in such a bureaucratic country))) 2019 will end, then it will be known. Previously, officials from sports, and indeed ANY officials, could not do it in a single rush))) After all, they must upload the data, in the public domain, but only after the next calendar year, in the ANNUAL report.

[Operator]

Well, name the data for 2018, 2017 or 2016.

[UserGun]

Am I your student or something ?! ))) RUSADA is a public organization and you should not look at its reports. At least here: https://rusada.ru/about/reports/

[iaaf73]

Norwegian sports medics imported 2018 doses of asthma drugs in the form of injections and sprays for their, unfortunate, skiers and biathletes at the 1800 Olympic Games in Pyeongchang .... And ??? .

[svp67]

Quote: iaaf73

Norwegian sports medics imported 2018 doses of asthma drugs in the form of injections and sprays for their, unfortunate, skiers and biathletes at the 1800 Olympic Games in Pyeongchang .... And ???

For such a time, it is time to organize SEPARATE competitions, so let them compete among themselves.
And who will tell you how the blood transfusion "scandal" ended? There seem to be several HUNDREDS of Western athletes "under suspicion", not to mention "doctors" and sho?

[maden.usmanow]

Listen to this. 21 century. You can read perfectly what asthma is.

https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/astma-fizicheskogo-usiliya-u-sportsmenov


This is professional asthma in athletes.
This is not ordinary bronchial asthma.

[Rzzz]

Well then, they should perform in a separate category for asthmatics at the Olympics.

[Same lech]

Composition of the WADA Commission:

Craig Reedy (UK)
Linda Helleland (Norway)
Danka Bartekova (Slovakia)
Ingmar De Vosch (Belgium)
Ugur Erdener (Turkey)
Jiri Keival (Czech Republic)
Francesco Ricci (Italy)
Witold Bank (Poland)
Richard Colbeck (Australia)
Amira El Fadil (Sudan)
Andrea Sotomayor (Ecuador)
Kameoka Yoshitami (Japan)


And where is the whole world ... some Russophobes.

[prior]

All listed to the highest degree ....

[UserGun]

And you better first take an interest in the internal structure of WADA, its charter and other physical education. Everything is far from simple and is not limited to one commission.

[Same lech]

The key decision is made by this commission anyway ...

[UserGun]

Based ... And yes, the decision is made EXECUTION. There is also the Committee of Athletes Do you still need to list or google yourself for the common development?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: UserGun

What is there to be offended if one way or another, WADA includes almost all the countries of the world.

You do not duplicate crap here!

The composition of the WADA Executive Committee, which will decide the fate of Russian sports on December 9, consists of representatives of 12 countries. Among them are citizens of Great Britain, Norway, Slovakia, Belgium, Turkey, the Czech Republic, Italy, Poland, Australia, Sudan, Ecuador and Japan.

With this situation at the moment, the chances are 50 to 50, as there are those who support Russia. Until December 9, two more weeks. Obviously, the leak was made exactly so that this dozen would be under the most powerful information pressure and attacked by leading world media for 14 days (which started yesterday).

Composition of the WADA Commission:

Craig Reedy (UK)
Linda Helleland (Norway)
Danka Bartekova (Slovakia)
Ingmar De Vosch (Belgium)
Ugur Erdener (Turkey)
Jiri Keival (Czech Republic)
Francesco Ricci (Italy)
Witold Bank (Poland)
Richard Colbeck (Australia)
Amira El Fadil (Sudan)
Andrea Sotomayor (Ecuador)
Kameoka Yoshitami (Japan)

[Sayan]

There is a simple solution - to declare your withdrawal from the IOC and other organizations and stop paying non-weak such contributions, having lost these enormous funds, they will sing to a friend, because money is stronger for them than politics, because politics make money, and not vice versa.

[Revival]

Yes, the story of the European Parliament confirms your innocence! Oh! or vice versa?

[Warrior-80]

And what about the European Parliament, they asked back with the restoration of all rights and sent a forest of Ukrainians who began to yell

[Revival]

And with the European Parliament, that they paid everything for the time while we were not there, doing what they demanded

[UserGun]

But what about the show-off ?!

[Prisoner]

Yes, do not care! Let the sports functionaries itch. There are enthusiasts to develop amateur sports at home.

[UserGun]

That's right. I don’t understand why here the wrestlers come up with saliva))) Well, they crap one's pants with the electronic database, together with the loyalty, the sysadmin’s hands grow out of his ass, it happens))) The money for professional sports and feeders should go to amateurs who are MUCH more helpful, all the more so since the state raised our retirement age and we should all do physical education as one))) Which is much more useful than from inflated tsyfirek and cheap show-offs.

[aleks.29ru]

There has never been such a thing, and here again. (C) They bent the victim. The logical result of a toothless policy.

[Rusj]

Toothless yes you raving friend! This is an echo of the damned 90s stinky Ebna and the damned Humpback. This is squalid from the EU and the USA) LGBT people are not restless that we bend them everywhere. There remains one sore spot SPORT, but Putin will decide on this as well. I’m sure if this happens in real life, then something will be very serious. In the meantime, these are recommendations of an incomprehensible office that lies under the USA
They will return this with great sorrow and seriously.

[Roman070280]

Write on your wall on the toilet - Putin = Yeltsin ..
And then you still have a stratification of consciousness ..))

[Varyag71]

Roman, these people are constantly shouting that GDP is just cool in foreign policy. You just watch how they constantly poke us and poke us like babies.

[Rusj]

You have written in the toilet Bulk Sable or maybe Venidikt or maybe Yeltsin, but most likely there you have the Rainbow flag and the US flag.

[Roman070280]

Under such a flag as the United States, I would boldly write and Yeltsin, and Putin, and Navalny ..
And yes .. place in the toilet just right ..

[Revival]

Yes, I also read it and was dumbfounded, I think it’s a million-level sarcasm or finished off a wifi from a neighboring magdak to a closed institution?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Rusj

It’s still a big sadness for them to come back and seriously

Do you think it’s time to start smelling? The whole world is in ruin? So it’s normal, they’ll just die, and we’ll go to heaven!
I think it's better to wait for Yellowstone to explode!

[Voyager]

Where do we bend them? In economics chtol?

[kaplei]

I completely agree. You cannot be "patient" ... in politics for your Motherland, your sport.

[vvnab]

The logical result of a toothless policy.

Politics is a concentrated expression of the economy. Russia does not have objective opportunities to pursue an aggressive policy, while our place in the world system of division of labor is mining.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: aleks.29ru

There has never been such a thing, and here again. (C) They bent the victim. The logical result of a toothless policy.

Never say that again, we only have a little internal. politics is lame, and the external hoo, a lot of strong, even powerful!

[Revival]

Yes already! (with))))

[GRIGORIY76]

Of course, there is politics and global competition in this decision. But our bureaucrats are robustly smeared, remember the words of Ganus.
What matters is not the failure of doping, but the reaction of our authorities to this.

[DAC scratch]

and what it did muddy wrong, I just do not understand

[Million]

They found a weak spot and beat there. But our politicians either cannot or do not want to do anything in this situation.

[Barmaleyka]

If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it gets both war and shame

[New Year day]

Actually, why blame the mirror. when is the erysipelas curve?
Was the database spoofing? - It was.
The head of the Russian anti-doping agency RUSADA Yuri Ganus: Russia, at the request of WADA, handed it over its database of analyzes, but the agency's representatives found in it "traces of outside interference", that is, the substitution of "thousands" of doping samples. The database received by WADA contains scattered changes in various parts of the software package and content. They say that in fact, these changes are made intentionally, man-made. The changes that were carried out in the database were carried out including a few days before the transfer of the database, in January 2019.
The Investigative Committee was responsible for these bases, it is very important to understand (the Investigative Committee opened a case against Rodchenkov in 2017 and accused him of "remote manipulations" with the base - NV). Control by the Investigative Committee should have been, and they had to ensure this safety.
What questions? They themselves screwed up, they themselves got caught, but to answer for it? It's easier on WADA to move arrows and blame the CIA, they say they are bad. and we are white and fluffy.
One must accept reality as it is

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Silvestr

Actually, why blame the mirror. when is the erysipelas curve?
Was the database spoofing? - It was.
The head of the Russian anti-doping agency RUSADA Yuri Ganus: Russia, at the request of WADA, handed it over its database of analyzes, but the agency's representatives found in it "traces of outside interference", that is, the substitution of "thousands" of doping samples. The database received by WADA contains scattered changes in various parts of the software package and content. They say that in fact, these changes are made intentionally, man-made. The changes that were carried out in the database were carried out including a few days before the transfer of the database, in January 2019.
The Investigative Committee was responsible for these bases, it is very important to understand (the Investigative Committee opened a case against Rodchenkov in 2017 and accused him of "remote manipulations" with the base - NV). Control by the Investigative Committee should have been, and they had to ensure this safety.
What questions? They themselves screwed up, they themselves got caught, but to answer for it? It's easier on WADA to move arrows and blame the CIA, they say they are bad. and we are white and fluffy.
One must accept reality as it is

Are you either deaf or blind !!!!!! What alone do we use dope ?! Only on ours you roll a barrel, and to the west have scored water in a mouth. Is there any conscience ?! Although what I mean ...

[Roman070280]

Really .. what are you talking about ??

What alone do we use dope ?!

Do you justify yourself before traffic cops ??
Or maybe in front of communal services ?? Before tax ??)

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Roman070280

Really .. what are you talking about ??

What alone do we use dope ?!

Do you justify yourself before traffic cops ??
Or maybe in front of communal services ?? Before tax ??)

Oh ... Tykalshik came in. Rave

[Roman070280]

Contact your attending psychotherapist .. he will be happy to talk with you about delirium ..
And here the topic of conversation is completely different ..

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Roman070280

Do you justify yourself before traffic cops ??

the comparison is not entirely correct, the policeman is OBLIGED to prove your guilt, in addition, based on your comparison, if your dad was caught drunk while driving, then your mum, brother, sister, you and even the cat and dog should be deprived

[New Year day]

Quote: Barmaleyka

the traffic cop MUST prove your guilt

So, after all, WADA proved, unfortunately. After all, ours are silent. Overslept for 3 weeks on appeal. This is where to put it?
Although it is clear that foreign agents in ministries will not tear the vest for Russia, "hatynki" and money in the EU

[New Year day]

Quote: Barmaleyka

... our dEbils could not change the remote access passwords and the changes were made from the outside

it’s possible, but the question is, who took these job-seekers and keeps them?

Quote: Barmaleyka

We ourselves ask .... the situation, starting with Zepelt and ending with WADA's machinations, the lack of professionalism of our bureaucrats is simply amazing, and their disregard for the case infuriates

so about the same thing! Athletes are not to blame, but those who did it are to blame. Do you think they are tormented by conscience for this? By no means

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Silvestr

only a question - who did these dEbilov accept and keep for work?

I agree as long as space is controlled by journalists, and sports engineers of river transport mechanics will
what it was all about was clear from the very beginning back in 15 year and everything could be "extinguished" even then by screwing on the sepelt

[Roman070280]

proceeding from yours comparisons if your dad was caught drunk while driving then great must deprive your mom

This is in what place did this comparison sound?

I answered a very specific phrase

What alone do we use dope ?!

Here, man did not write about innocent brother / matchmaker etc ..
And that guilty is justified by the fact that "he was not the only one who stole"

[Barmaleyka]

Do you justify yourself before traffic cops ??

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Barmaleyka

Here the man did not write about innocent brother / matchmaker, etc ..
And that the guilty person is justified by the fact that "he was not the only one who stole"

by the way, having discarded all reverence, we had time to make a fuss about the removal of the USA and Norgov if successful, WADA could itself backtrack, but as usual we took ostrich politics and got another kick in the ass

[New Year day]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

What alone do we use dope ?! Only on ours you roll a barrel, and to the west have scored water in a mouth. Is there any conscience ?! Although what I mean ...

iron logic!
"For decades all over the world - not only in Russia, but also in Germany, and in the USA, and in Kenya, and in China - the history of doping is the history of doping coverage. And this does not concern just some individuals - they are engaged in it whole systems So, in my opinion, there has always been a struggle not so much with doping as with people who talk too much about doping. Talking about doping means destroying business.
We question the existing business model of many sports federations all over the world - not only in Russia, as I said. This year we did a big investigation about doping in Germany and Austria. This is a pan-European investigation and is not over yet. "

From an interview with Hayo Zeppelt, a German investigative journalist.
Rodchenkov is far from an angel, WADA is not the focus of justice, but the mind must also be included.

[Revival]

You do not seem to understand.
The fact that we DECIDED to beat because of the political motives of this, no one denies.
But, they beat for the real deal.
And supposedly everyone takes dope (everyone knows that), as it doesn’t sound

[Dym71]

Quote: Silvestr

Actually, why blame the mirror. when is the erysipelas curve?
Was the database spoofing? - It was.

So we raked in full, because we are talking about the fact that:

The WADA claims that some manipulations were allegedly detected in reflecting the results of doping tests. And again we are talking about the time when Mr. Rodchenkov worked at RusADA.

Lets mi Speak From May Hart, how long?

[New Year day]

Quote: Dym71

Quote: Silvestr
Actually, why blame the mirror. when is the erysipelas curve?
Was the database spoofing? - It was.

So we raked in full, because we are talking about the fact that:
The WADA claims that some manipulations were allegedly detected in reflecting the results of doping tests. And again we are talking about the time when Mr. Rodchenkov worked at RusADA.

Lets mi Speak From May Hart, how long?

well no.

Changes that were made to the database were made, including several days before the transfer of the database, to January 2019 of the year.

After Sochi 2014, Rodchenko was awarded the Order, and was considered extremely useful to “our villain” for the authorities until the end of 2015. It turns out 4 years Rodchenkov continued to harm? In July 2016, the database was sealed by the RF IC.

Or do you like the NTV investigation that Rodchenkov, while in the United States, made changes to the database under the protection of the UK?
Do you think Ganus is also a spy and a liar?

[Dym71]

Quote: Silvestr

well no.

As it is not, about this we have already made a patty!

Quote: Silvestr

Or do you like the NTV investigation?

Yes, I don’t care about the NTV investigation, because after a fight they don’t wave their fists, but when they start biting cola, it’s not getting into any gates anymore, you have to give an answer.

[New Year day]

Quote: Dym71

they don’t wave their fists after the fight, but when they get bastard on the stake, it’s not getting into any gates anymore, you have to give an answer.

what is the answer?
Ganus confirmed the fact of substitution! The head of the Russian anti-doping agency admitted fraud. Recognized by sports functionaries! Fetisov - and he recognized. Why are you breaking through open doors?

[Dym71]

Quote: Silvestr

what is the answer?

Honest, without coping, clean out your shit, protect the athletes.

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Silvestr

under the protection of the UK?

mm, but how do you imagine this protection, I'm not talking about complete unprofessionalism at all levels of government in the country, but still more about the "protection"

[New Year day]

Quote: Barmaleyka

about all the same about the "protection" in more detail

for comments in the UK

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Silvestr

for comments in the UK

And still

[Barmaleyka]

who ran and placed the "brilliant" cons

[Not served]

There was information that Rodchenkov had access to the database after his flight.

[New Year day]

Quote: Didn't serve

There was information that Rodchenkov had access to the database after his flight.

This is from an NTV investigation. Question: how did the database under the protection of the UK become accessible from behind the hill? Or did something become guarded?
After all, the substitution in thousands of files! In thousands!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Silvestr

Question: how did the database under the protection of the UK become accessible from behind the hill?

Answer: no way. We are talking about adjustments to the copy of the database that VADA has.

Quote: Silvestr

After all, the substitution in thousands of files! In thousands!

Yes, even in millions. I repeat - VADE is simply more convenient (can afford) to consider the information that is in her hands correct. Moreover, having the ability to arbitrarily correct this information.

So that I live so what is called

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Silvestr

Question: how did the database under the protection of the UK become accessible from behind the hill?

just like your computer, another question is why no protection measures were taken

[Liam]

Quote: Dym71

And again we are talking about the time when Mr. Rodchenkov worked at RusADA

Falsifications occurred in December 2018-January 2019. Do you have infa that Rodchenkov worked in RUSADA during this period?

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Liam

Do you have infa that Rodchenkov worked in RUSADA during this period?

and where did he work, didn’t work ?!
if the access passwords have not been changed, then by whom he worked and where he was located is absolutely not important

[Liam]

What passwords ... what access?. The base was arrested by the UK and disconnected from the Internet since June 2016. Then the investigators physically removed the hard drives from the database. Stop telling these stories already. Adult people

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Liam

The base was arrested by SK and disconnected from the Internet since June 2016

can a reference to the Old?

[Avior]

the article is distortedly written to confuse the reader
in fact, claims that the substitutions were at a time when the samples were arrested by the Investigative Committee

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Avior

the substitution was during the period when the samples were arrested by the Investigative Committee

substitutions of what ?!

[Avior]

Information and sample databases
Changes to the database and the disappearance of some samples

[Barmaleyka]

about samples it’s interesting, I heard about the mismatch of one of the databases, but what about samples, can I link to the source?

[Avior]

There is an interview with the new director Rusad about the charges, someone brought already at the bottom of the branch

[Barmaleyka]

- In publication The New York Times it was said that thousands of samples were manipulated.
- The question concerns thousands of changes, not units, not hundreds, but thousands. This is scattered information that has been removed from various blocks.

and now explain to HOW and HOW the sample changes were made, I can accept the changes in the database and understand how this was done, but the samples themselves

moreover

The CRC's 26-page advisory outlines key facts that are derived primarily from reports from WADA I&I and forensic experts. These reports conclude that Moscow data was intentionally altered prior to and during WADA's forensic medical examination in January 2019.

this is a direct quote from the WADA site - NOT A WORD ON THE REPLACEMENT OF THEIR SAMPLES

[region58]

Quote: Silvestr

Was the database spoofing? - It was.

Well, excuse me, as from the very beginning all this is muddy ... There are many technical nuances here. Starting from the form in which the database was transferred (it matters), and ending with the fact that our programmers, it turns out, are not aware of transaction logging (change logging, log files), that it was substituted (if something happened, of course)? But, sorry, this is the level of computer science lessons in elementary school ... Not Stanislavsky, but - "I don't believe" (c). This is me, so, if you do not go deeper, on the edge ... There are more serious questions, but again - there is no information. Although what's so secret ...
PS About the fact that, in fact, two times for the same thing - this I do not touch.

[New Year day]

Quote: region58

what form the database was transferred (it matters), and ending with the fact that our programmers, it turns out, are not aware of transaction logging (change logging, log files), that this was substituted (if something happened, of course)?

I think that those who MUST have been thinking about it

[region58]

Quote: Silvestr

should have thought those who MUST have thought

It goes without saying. But many questions follow from this, and even more answers, one worse than the other ...

[DAC scratch]

but where about the news can be read, and this statement is for sure? have we already been removed?

[Phil77]

RIA Novosti, Sport-Express, Championship ru. All this is sad, expected and instills fierce malice. Sorry, if that.

[DAC scratch]

Thank you, I’m an athlete myself, even though I won’t get to the Olympics, I’m very sorry for those people who tried and it all happened, I don’t understand those people who say that we don’t need sports, then why all this, why the Sochi Olympics? no it's not right

[Phil77]

Stuffed up. Stupidly, stupidly set up. Personally, I am most offended by our hockey players. And those who brought all this up are scary and scary !!! Tarpishchev, Tyagachev, Ivanyuzhenkov, Rozhkov, Fetisov. MUTKO! Stages of great sports humiliation.

[Altona]

Quote: Phil77

Framed. Stupidly, foolishly framed.

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Well, how to say there? Not the fact that the UK was "manipulating" something there. Rodchenkov also had remote access to the database, and he also had an early version of that database. Incidentally, WADA did not provide material on this topic of "who accessed the database". In general, it is clear that we are not angels either, officials are above all, but "judges" are also with a clearly ordered sentence.

[region58]

Quote: crap scratch

very sorry for those people who tried

Listen, we have a lot of people who give their best to athletes. Just such a job. And no one pays special attention to them and does not give apartments and cars. And nothing. Why don't they feel sorry for anyone?

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: DAC scratch

but where about the news can be read, and this statement is for sure? have we already been removed?

There are many digressions. The flag will definitely be banned. Not being discussed. And about pure athletes, again, our need to go through all the circles of hell. Prove that we are clean. The bullying is shorter.

[Altona]

Well, the decision itself is not surprising of course. Manipulations with samples there are not some global value, but something within 0,5%. Meanwhile, in the Alps, Austrian, German, Italian and some other European athletes in special boarding houses calmly did a massive blood transfusion. Second, Russia has already been punished for these manipulations with samples by depriving them of 4 medals in Sochi and removing them as a country in Pyeongchang. And in general, the flag of the country is the right of the athlete, and not a privilege. Well, since the descendants of the Nazis from WADA and the IOC want to be weird, then who will forbid them? Absurdity nowadays replaces truth, justice and justice.

[rocket757]

Well, they said well that the choice between war and shame always ends unambiguously ....

[1536]

One of the clearest examples of what the connivance of the aggressor, in this case WADA, can lead to. We did not give these filibusters a proper rebuff, now we will lose a whole generation of athletes who will simply leave the country. And it's not a fact that anything will change in years. And does it need to be changed ?! Nobody has proven the massive use of doping in Russian sports.
In the 1990s, Russia lost a significant part of the scientists who went to the West on the "vouchers" of foreign firms and concerns, foreign universities and laboratories; now we are losing athletes. This is how the gene pool of the country, state, people is destroyed. This is what we need to protest against, to take to the streets against those who support such decisions. But we will calmly swallow this disgrace, because no one will sanction such rallies. And no need to wonder why.
But Russia will not be disconnected from SWIFT, no matter how anyone is “afraid” of this today and makes loud statements, because this can break through the entire resulting abscess?
PS On good today, it would be necessary in Paris to declare the independence of the Republics of Donbass, and that Russia supports this decision.

[Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)]

No one has proven the massive use of doping in Russian sports.

The Investigative Committee will not lie, huh.)

[Altona]

Quote: 1536

They were not given due rebuff to these filibusters

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And they won’t give. Our officials have second passports and residence permits in Europe. They will not risk them. And they need athletes as buffoons and showmen to distract the masses of people.

[mark_rod]

Quote: PValery53

It was a mistake to pay huge fines for alleged violations by Russia. WADA, sensing this, became completely insolent. The entire composition of WADA should be limited in freedom and put on trial in Russia. For starters, at least one WAD little soul! - They are completely overwhelmed !!

Who will bring to trial? Those with real estate in NATO countries and children studying?

[anjey]

As grandfather Lenin would say in two words about this "vada",

political prostitutes

and not a drop of sport.
In the West, there has been no fair sport for a long time and this is yet another confirmation of the decline and decay of the Olympic movement. Our athletes hold on and show character, Salvage and not the most important thing in life, and to assert oneself in triple, after such unfriendly passages and make a career on the world stage, you still to be.

[1536]

IN AND. Lenin, when he was Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars, put forward somewhat different slogans, for example: "All for the fight against Denikin!" or "Everyone to defeat Kolchak!" The most important thing is that these slogans were famously and enthusiastically embodied in real deeds.

[kaplei]

This is of course politics and has nothing to do with sport. We, Russia will always be strangled and so treated. Initially, we are a loser ... Well, you can’t respected authorities and ordinary compatriots constantly grovel! It is not right to compromise in such situations. I am sure that our country has the necessary LEVERS of influence on the IOC, WADA, etc. We need to develop a strategy and beat them in response to the most painful .. money !!! (Broadcasts, contributions, sponsorship, accreditation in the Russian Federation, any visits by responsible and irresponsible representatives of all these countries, organizations ...). I am sure we can WIN this. It is better to back up all their actions with alternative competitions in Russia, the CSTO, etc. There must be an iron, political will. And alas, there will always be losses ... Sincerely sorry for our athletes, BUT we must adequately answer ... Otherwise, the darkness will be complete ....

[Ronald Reagan]

Where does such a desire to get to someone else's party come from?

[Fantazer911]

Russia to compile a list of all zapodnom athletes who have violations in taking doping, even from the general information about the violation of their athletes and taking doping and pour as slops on public display, the only way kittens soak in a bowl with milk!

[_TANKIST_]

Thanks to our officials = slovens, for our "great sport" !!! Symbolically, Fetisov's statement the other day, that this scandal is an indelible stain of shame on our sport!

PS>
I would have seen what would happen to such "officials" (meaning our "alcohol committee") in North Korea!

[Graz]

firstly, to recognize all officially voted against us by the Nazis, to prohibit them from entering the Russian Federation for life, to make their names and places of residence public. let Mercador with an ice ax come to their house
secondly, it is necessary to leave all sports Russophobic organizations such as Wada, Jaaf, Mok
thirdly, to do with all interested parties alternative international sports organizations

[Varyag71]

Who will do this? Those with homes, families, parents living abroad?

[pexotinec]

And there are still no perpetrators. Well, at least for four years everything will calm down with this Wadai. Now the Americans will eat dope by the handful and win everyone.

[Million]

So they eat it in buckets anyway! Some American athletes can only determine their gender by looking into their underpants!

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Million

So they eat it in buckets anyway! Some American athletes can only determine their gender by looking into their underpants!

Duc, the father of the son scolded not for stealing, but for getting caught!

[Sky-75]

Russia, not the USSR .... swallow silently, snot chewing, like, hopefully, expect, take into account, are always open for dialogue. On the contrary, .. but ... what kind of toothlessness ?!

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Skay-75

Russia, not the USSR .... swallow silently, snot chewing, like, hopefully, expect, take into account, are always open for dialogue. On the contrary, .. but ... what kind of toothlessness ?!

As you don’t understand simple things, mongers do not care about the prestige of the country, athletes, people, everything except dough, they practically all have a second passport. After all, cosmonautics, sports, and even the little things that they didn’t saw, remained from the backlog of the USSR, so they got it right here. But the plebs will be told that these are the machinations of the gas department, the masons, the Ukrainians, goblins, aliens, climate weapons and the abama.

[Sergej1972]

And someone in the know, does this decision apply to the World and European Football Championships? Maybe a stupid question, but I just do not own the information.

[Not served]

No way, UEFA has already made a statement on this issue that they will not remove the Russian team.

[Phil77]

Just. In the final part of the champion 22, the Russian team / if / participates in a neutral form! Football.

[Phil77]

FIFA is a slightly different organization, if you don’t bend them, then everything will be fine. With a flag and in your form. It’s difficult to bend them, but ... Yes, UEFA did not mention it.

[Grigory b]

[quote] [/And someone in the know, does this decision apply to the World and European Football Championships? Maybe a stupid question, but I just do not own the information.quote] They were removed from the World Cup-2022, but this does not affect the European Championship and there will be games in St. Petersburg.

[Grigory b]

The head of the committee of the World Anti-Doping Agency for Compliance, Jonathan Taylor, said that sanctions against Russia will affect only the final stage of the 2022 World Cup, reports Dmitry Egorov, a correspondent for the Championship.

Thus, in the qualifying round of the World Cup, the national team will be able to make the national flag and anthem, and players will not need to seek individual access to participate in the tournament through the sports arbitration court.

More details at the “Championship”:
https://www.championat.com/football/news-3920153-sbornaja-rossii-vystupit-s-flagom-i-gimnom-v-otbore-chm-2022.html?utm_source=champfb&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR1GLqz5J_2h8SPKXOyCeC4IONgI02RRQdwKUfhFd5xPeYSVzyLH-xFkfLk?utm_source=copypaste

[rotkiv04]

And what is there to be surprised, all past humiliations were put on the brakes, money and fines were paid, they agreed to be gray rats at the last OI, if they allow you to spit in your face and constantly substitute the right, then the left cheeks, which means they will continue to kick. And the one who beats with the feathers will quietly say again that the athletes were preparing and should go to the Olympic Games, although they will not be clear who they are

[Dizel200]

No need to shake the air idle talk))) Everything will be gut. Wait and see what and how and where the GDP will respond)))

[Varyag71]

She is already running away

[Sergej1972]

Can you give the figures of mass emigration of youth from Russia? Just not from Internet trash such as yaplakal, pickab and poraval?

[edeligor]

So what? Wiped off the first time, get a new one. Who shouted about athletes, they say, they were preparing all their lives for the result, who put their last health ... what's the difference, under what flag ... No, dear ones, we don't respect ourselves, no one around will respect! A purely political decision. More recently, WADA wanted to establish its own rules in the NHL, so what? Peace and quiet. And then the relocation of athletes to other "correct" countries will begin, claims against the state and new Judas Rodchenkovs.

[Graz]

where will they go, they are mostly on state funding

[bars1]

For good, it is generally necessary to legalize doping. The limit of the human body has already been reached, everyone accepts it (not everyone manages to catch it). Big sport has already become a part of show business. And let the super people compete at their own peril and risk and for a lot of money.

[Alex Nevs]

AND EVERYONE ascribe the indication of DOCTORS !!!!! All athletes must be sick ... asthmatics, allergy sufferers, drug addicts, depressants .... and everything is possible.

[smaug78]

Hurray, patriots, give the answer: "The fact that the database was corrected is recognized by RUSADA. Moreover, the management of RUSADA says that it does not know what its rules are. And that the management of RUSADA found out that it was corrected after the database was transferred.

And you know: I believe them.

But let them tell us who ruled her? As I understand it, the Investigative Committee acted as the guarantor of its preservation. It is not necessary that they ruled.

But let them tell us: WHO? "

Personally, this is important to me. This is important for Russia.

And do not give a shit about vada.

[Altona]

Quote: smaug78

But let them tell us: WHO? "

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Who is who? It is highly probable or highlighted that Grisha Rodchenkov is wearing a coat. He had in his hands attendance passwords. The UK does not even know how to approach this matter. Vaughn recently "investigated" the plane crash and immediately blamed the pilot. Although the UK does not have any competencies to investigate accidents, the IAC should deal with this.

[edeligor]

Quote: smaug78

But let them tell us who ruled her?

And what, in principle, is the difference? Mudko, amateurs from the special services, in the end, even though the guarantor himself with an eternal deputy cannot be punished for one crime TWICE! This contender is punishment for the sake of punishment. And this will not end after the expiration of the new term. I don’t know why this is being done, against Putin or to show the significance of the WADA organization itself ... We have worn ourselves out and we have suffered, we got it.

[smaug78]

Dear, the first time for doping, the second time - the database ...
And my question was:
That the database has been amended is recognized by RUSADA. Moreover, the leadership of RUSADA says that it does not know its rules. And that it was corrected, the leadership of RUSADA found out after the base was transferred.

And you know: I believe them.

But let them tell us who ruled her? As I understand it, the Investigative Committee acted as the guarantor of its preservation. It is not necessary that they ruled.

But let them tell us: WHO? "

Personally, this is important to me. This is important for Russia.

And do not give a shit about vada.
And we wiped ourselves away because we were caught and we allowed it ...

[Not served]

Of course, our hands are not quite clean, but as they say, who are the judges ?????
I probably will not be able to quote verbatim, but somehow the late John McCain once said this:
"American athletes can eat doppings for breakfast, lunch and dinner, and woe to that official or other person who dares to encroach on this right!"

[Berkut24]

I’m not surprised. Everything fits into the logic of war and pressure on Russia. And this is not a sports punishment, it’s just another opponent’s move in a situation when there are no rules and decencies, and no one needs explanations and justifications.
In order to save nerves, life must be perceived as it really is. And to plan your response in the same style - no rules, decencies and regrets in the response. Nothing to explain or substantiate. Those who need it will understand without this.

[Flatter]

The long-term strategy of the West-Russia, as a national, geographical concept, should disappear from the map of the Earth. This offensive tactic has been carried out for hundreds of years.

[Varyag71]

I am for it!

[Maxwrx]

Unfortunately, not everything is so simple! The point is that wada requested documents for 2012-2015, we pulled as much as we could (they said that it was impossible to import uncertified equipment for inspection in Russia, etc.) as a result, when they did receive the data, there were changes (data substitution ) that occurred a month before their actual access, and not 4 years ago. Those. we actually tried to hide the information again. Actually, this is punished. Although it is very tough, but I agree with them. But in our country it is necessary to punish those responsible for this! Wait on TV, the West is strangling us, and we are white and fluffy.

[Altona]

Quote: MaxWRX

Those. we actually tried to hide the information again.

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In world sports, we are not the only ones with such sins actually, but for some reason they don’t take away the flag and the right from anyone. And we have already been punished for this. Or can you endlessly punish the same thing? Such cases are cars with small carts, nothing unique. WADA now wants to introduce a monopoly on its actions to decide who can and who does not. I would not be surprised if soon champions will be selected in the database, and not in the sports arena. And by the way, as I understand it, they are all looking for something in the urine, although they have blood tests.

[Maxwrx]

Many countries have problems. But instead of solving the problem (at least pretending), they are trying to hide the problem at our state level. As I understand it, access to the data was only with the Investigative Committee, although formally it was with RUSAD. Everywhere behind the violations are individual athletes, coaches, but not the state. This is the difference. This is a precedent in world sports, so it is so severely punished.

[Altona]

Quote: MaxWRX

But instead of solving the problem (at least pretending), they are trying to hide the problem at our state level.

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Well, maybe someone zealous of the officials is trying to hide? And again, Rodchenkov is involved in that case. And again they ALREADY punished. Or is it necessary to punish each time for the period 2012-2015? Adopted a law on liability for doping, a roadmap for reinstating RUSADA's rights, and WADA recognized RUSADA as compliant. And then opachki, "on the cola, start over again." Even if we admit that our officials are up to their elbows in feces and urine with doping, why are they punishing athletes collectively? This is pure fascism.

[Maxwrx]

Will you personally be concerned that some official will not go to the Olympics because he will be banned? They would not have noticed the sanctions, then the meaning of them? That is why they beat the most sick - athletes.

[Ural resident]

All of us scold "sports officials". Why scold them: an official is an official, he was told what he will do. The question is who appoints which officials where. If the top management considers it necessary, it puts in the position either an active "militant" person, or a person who is trying to solve everything by persuasion, or a "literal", etc. Officials were appointed in accordance with the tasks of the "higher gods". Do you not understand that we have built such a vertical power structure that not a single employee would dare to take the initiative, and there are no such people anymore - the selection of personnel has long been based on the principle of loyalty and not professionalism. I've listened to these "sports officials", what they say: they do not understand at all that it was possible to act differently - everyone laments that the documents were not submitted in such a way, that they were not so bent in front of WADA, what to talk about - they already have in their genes to serve.

[antiaircrafter]

In response, it is necessary to declare a moratorium on participation in the World Championships, the Olympics and from filing applications for their holding for a period of 15-20 years.
In this case, you can organize your championships.

[New Year day]

Quote: antiaircrafter

In this case, you can organize your championships.

with whom? What are the countries that will send their athletes?

[antiaircrafter]

They will not send a dog with them either.
So whoever came, he won.
And you don’t have to do anything. Only wear a sports suit.

[Freeman]

Quote: antiaircrafter

They will not send a dog with them either.
So whoever came, he won.
And you don’t have to do anything. Only wear a sports suit.

Ingenious! / sarcasm /
Only somewhere I already saw it ...
- And here!

[Not served]

A question of budget ..... Then you can ban in the country advertising with those athletes who appear under the flag of the IOC and WADA. You need to sell goods, so there will be a budget from advertising.
I also want to remind you that WADA is a private commercial organization with an undisclosed form of ownership.

[Xenofont]

As long as in Russia there will be "manual control" of the president in all spheres of life, large-scale problems will arise over and over again in the economy, in foreign policy, and in sports, and the protection of law and justice, and other.

[maden.usmanow]

at least someone said a sensible thing.

[Slavs]

ALL professional sports are on farm. EVERYONE knows this. WADA is just a farce.
And in this case it is a political instrument.

[PROXOR]

Quit all committees. Cut off their funding. And send them on a “naked” journey.

[Varyag71]

I think that we will soon see an outflow of athletes receiving citizenship of other countries. 4 years is a very long period, which can be extended.

[Operator]

The Ministry of Sports of the Russian Federation must sign an agreement with athletes that they will compensate for all expenses (coming from the budget or from federation sponsors) for their training if they refuse to comply with the decisions of the Russian sports federation (and not only when receiving foreign citizenship) with the provision of a bank guarantee.

And then everyone can go down the toilet.

[Kronos]

let the officials and their bosses start with all those who overslept

[New Year day]

Quote: Varyag71

I think that we will soon see an outflow of athletes receiving citizenship of other countries.

there are plenty of examples: Khorkina, Rodnina, Tretyak, Malkin, Mogilny, Sergei Fedorov, Markov, Afinogenov, Larionov, Nabokov, Gonchar, Bryzgalov and many others

[Varyag71]

I'm afraid that big sport is now lost.

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Varyag71

I'm afraid that big sport is now lost.

And to hell with it.
Physical education is everything!

[Altona]

Quote: Silvestr

there are plenty of examples: Khorkina, Rodnina, Tretyak, Malkin, Mogilny, Sergei Fedorov, Markov, Afinogenov, Larionov, Nabokov, Gonchar, Bryzgalov and many others

------------------------
Valuev, Fetisov.

[Kronos]

Yes, let them go in the end, they are just the latest in a long list of those who understand that they have no future in bourgeois Russia. Then the last doctors, teachers, engineers, scientists and IT specialists will leave

[Lord of the Sith]

They are afraid that we will win all the medals)

And in the photo, holding a poster, is it a boy or a girl?))

[Alex Nevs]

While the children live over the hill (do not study!!!) and the state is “hidden” there....

[sergo1914]

Let's leave this insignificant news. What's there in Ukraine? In addition, Malysheva will now popularly explain in the “Health” program that the dispute is harmful to health. It reduces the survival age. You should not engage in sports, but smear yourself with rose hips every day.

[Sibguest]

They go to shit - just to spoil Russia.
Only poor people do this (according to A. and B. Strugatsky).
It’s a pity for our athletes, but to give up and beg to compete under the flag.... For just anyone is a humiliation for our entire country.
Wasserman is right - it is necessary to revive the Goodwill Games.

[megadeth]

Don’t worry, all this is expected.. Now VVP will apologize again, call enemies “friends” and “partners”, pay $30 million like that to VADA and the IOC.. and that’s it. Shame on our toothless leadership, which cannot or is afraid to give an adequate response to the declared war. First of all, it is necessary to declare WADA in its current composition illegitimate (12 people 9 hours from NATO + Japan with which we are at war + Sudan and another banana republic). To announce that we have evidence that they all received a bribe from the United States or that they are libertines and pedophiles...it’s all the same, the main thing is to demand a trial. Isn't it beautiful? not ours? childish?, but how our friends treat us, for example, I’m offended..

[Altona]

Quote: megadeth

Isn't it beautiful? not ours? childish?, but how our friends treat us, for example, I’m offended..

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In general, do you have a Mercader with an ice ax for all occasions?

[Kronos]

But this will have to be proven, but they won’t take Russia’s word for it

[Dzafdet]

I have been writing for a long time that I need to hammer a big bolt into this wad. Don’t accept her decisions and that’s it. And tell the rest: do you want us to leave? We're gone forever.

[Altona]

Quote: Dzafdet

that you need to hammer a big bolt into this vada

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Now the idea is being discussed that the team will perform as a team of the Russian Olympic Committee, since the ROC is not under sanctions.

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Altona

ROC is not subject to sanctions.

Today it is not, tomorrow it is.

[Selin Andrey]

On the one hand, this is unfortunate. On the other hand, when democratic asthmatics and chronicles suffering from lack of attention burst into sports, there is nothing to do in this dispensary called the international arena. It is better to spend the money for all these trips on promoting a healthy, active lifestyle. Like: sport (for the sake of health) is fashionable.
And this whole panopticon with trances and sick people - it itself will degenerate.

[Pacifist]

100 people have already said that no one will do anything, they need to completely humiliate us, meet them and correct something wrong. Let them rule with the Williams brothers, asthmatic Norwegians, etc.
We need to organize our own competitions. And besides this, with the help of the Prosecutor General’s Office, the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation, conduct an investigation into the people involved in all this crap and bring it to a court decision, and replicate it on all Internet fences, in detail. Arrest/confiscation/blocking order.

[sabotage]

Quote: Pacifist

We need to organize our own competitions. And in addition to this, carry out using

Organize only at your own expense. Send text messages.

Quote: Pacifist

The Prosecutor General's Office, the Investigative Committee of the Investigative Committee, investigate the people involved in all this crap and bring it to a court decision.

Yeah, bees versus honey.

[prior]

Here are your democratic Western partners. They put Russia in a pose and fucked.

[Mishka78]

If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it gets both war and shame...
We should have boycotted the 2018 Olympics in Korea.

[shark]

Does anyone doubt that our athletes, whining about their short life, will happily parade under the white flag? They were getting ready. And so on. One country, one people, one president. One-for-all boycott of pseudo-sporting events. (they are pseudo-sports by default, since there is no Russia) That would be correct. Yes... And don't pay dues

[savage1976]

It is high time. There was no point in bending in the first place, now white flag athletes get used to lying down.

[atalef]

The whole article is a complete lie.
RUSADA was restored with specific conditions, one of which was the transfer of the Rusada archive.
Rodchenko no longer worked there and couldn’t fix anything, and how could he fix anything if the archive was in the Russian Investigative Committee.
The archive was falsified and continued falsification 2 days before transfer to WADA.

[BAI]

Rodchenko no longer worked there and couldn’t fix anything, and how could he fix anything if the archive was in the Russian Investigative Committee.

Rodchenkov is one of the developers of the database, and left the possibility of remote access to it. After his departure to the United States, more than 400 attempts were recorded to connect to the database from computers located in the United States.

[sabotage]

Quote: BAI

Rodchenkov is one of the developers of the database, and left the possibility of remote access to it. After his departure to the United States, more than 400 attempts were recorded to connect to the database from computers located in the United States.

Logs to the studio. What kind of database is this to which a dismissed employee cannot be denied access? This is not an organization, but a passageway. Besides, even if a noob like me tried to get into the database and falsify something there, I would get through VPN servers located anywhere, but not where I am.

[atalef]

Quote: sabotage

Quote: BAI

Rodchenkov is one of the developers of the database, and left the possibility of remote access to it. After his departure to the United States, more than 400 attempts were recorded to connect to the database from computers located in the United States.

Logs to the studio. What kind of database is this to which a dismissed employee cannot be denied access? This is not an organization, but a passageway. Besides, even if a noob like me tried to get into the database and falsify something there, I would get through VPN servers located anywhere, but not where I am.

Yes, only the base was in the Investigative Committee. Did they connect to the Internet?

[sabotage]

Why, they also loaded it onto SQL and allowed incoming connections to be accepted. And, of course, they forgot about the possibility of backup. Although, if by “base” we mean a document in Google-sheets, and the saved xlsx file was transferred to the investigative committee, then...

[BAI]

Has everyone shown off their erudition in IT technologies?
Then let's continue (message from December 5 2019):

A report by Russian experts on changes in the Moscow Anti-Doping Laboratory database has been published.

A group of independent Russian experts led by the rector of the Moscow State Law University (MSAL), Professor Viktor Blazheev, analyzed the database and came to the following conclusions:

— The creators of the database (LIMS), Timofey Sobolevsky and Oleg Migachev, who moved to the United States, still had the ability to remotely change and administer the database until June 2016. From August 2015 to June 2016, the base was essentially administered from Los Angeles, until it was disconnected from the Internet.

— Between November 2015 and June 2016, 2885 actions with the database were performed remotely.

— Scripts built into the database were discovered in LIMS, which automatically falsified pdf files, regardless of the results of the analysis of doping samples of athletes.

— The system administrator of the Moscow laboratory, Evgeny Mochalov, annually changed the date in the database to any date in 2015. This was done to ensure that the system worked stably, since the last working version was made precisely in 2015, and Mochalov did not have any documentation on LIMS.

— Mochalov could not format or “zero” one of the hard drives, since the format command was completed in just 17 seconds, and this time is not enough to destroy any data on a 1 terabyte disk.

— Grigory Rodchenkov, according to witnesses, in 2017 repeatedly offered money and emigration to the United States to the director of the Moscow laboratory in exchange for data on the initial results of testing athletes.

Thus, the experts came to the conclusion that WADA’s study of the database was incorrect and the conclusions drawn were incorrect, reports sports.ru.

[sabotage]

Group independent Russian experts under the leadership Rector of Moscow State Law University (MSAL) Professor Viktor Blazheev analyzed the database and came to the following conclusions

Either independent or state. So there is no confidence in these conclusions.

The creators of the database (LIMS), Timofey Sobolevsky and Oleg Migachev, who moved to the United States until June 2016, retained the ability to remotely change and administer the database. From August 2015 to June 2016, the base was essentially administered from Los Angeles, until it was disconnected from the Internet.

Well, okay, did they administer the database for money or just like that? Are they trying to pass off their regular work as some kind of fraud?

— Scripts were found in LIMS built into the database that automatically falsified pdf files, regardless of the results of the analysis of athletes’ doping samples.

How was it faked? In whose interests was it forged? In what situation were they performed? It's unclear, but very interesting.

— Mochalov could not format or “zero” one of the hard drives, since the format command was completed in just 17 seconds, and this time is not enough to destroy any data on a 1 terabyte disk.

Database without RAID? This is already beyond the bounds. Why did he want to cancel? What traces of crimes did he try to cover up?

The system administrator of the Moscow laboratory, Evgeny Mochalov, annually changed the date in the database to any date in 2015. This was done to ensure that the system worked stably, since the last working version was made precisely in 2015, and Mochalov did not have any documentation on LIMS.

We recruited unknown people from an ad....

One way or another, the work in RusADA is disgustingly organized. Starting from organizing document flow and ending with hiring staff. Fire everyone. Overclock. Don't give a penny of government money to these eccentrics anymore.

[Altona]

Quote: atalef

RUSADA was restored with specific conditions, one of which was the transfer of the Rusada archive.

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And what? Everything was handed over. What's the problem? Should we be the most honest? Other athletes don’t give a damn about WADA, don’t take control tests, and nothing happens to them - these are athletes from kosher countries. Well, there’s a problem with 400 samples (that’s 5 years, that’s ugh). Russian athletes take about 12500 tests a year, 80 of which are bad. What percentage is this? Less than a percent.

[betta]

I will repeat the picture. I am against professional sports, so I don’t participate and don’t pay.

[Slavutich]

Great picture, that's right!

[Fibrizio]

Everything except “accessible to elitists” is also true for the military. Especially in peacetime.

[Operator]

A subsidiary of WADA under the title RUSADA is located in Moscow.

Since 2016, the Moscow unit has had no connection in the electronic database of doping test results, developed under Rodchenkov, arrested in 2016 by the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation as part of a criminal case and transferred by the Ministry of Sports of the Russian Federation in January 2019 to WADA.

However, the general director of RUSADA since 2017, Yuri Ganus (born 1964, Ukrainian SSR), has already publicly stated that the database was falsified in Russia before being transferred, despite the fact that he and his subordinates did not work with it at all.

This Russophobic vile is now screaming that he is under pressure in Russia, continuing to disseminate information to which he himself has never had anything to do.

[Flatter]

We will not give the Kuril Islands to anyone

[BAI]

ban Russian officials (including representatives of the Russian Olympic Committee) from attending international sports tournaments for the same period.

But what about the drinking parties in the “Russia House” during the Olympics?
In general, it was the right decision. Officials cover up their stupidity, inability and unwillingness to work as athletes. All the time they were hiding behind their backs - they say the athletes are suffering. And everything happened because of the officials. And now, I support the athletes’ decision to go and compete under a neutral flag. Sports will not suffer, and even more so without our officials it will manage.
The situation is very reminiscent of the end of the USSR. To remove Gorbachev, the USSR had to collapse. Now, in order to remove officials, Russian sports had to be destroyed.

[New Year day]

Quote: BAI

But what about the drinking parties in the “Russia House” during the Olympics?

Mutko and his comrades had a great time and didn’t bring home a single medal. And how much was drunk and eaten!

[depressant]

Why is there no Spartakiad of the Peoples of Russia? We are more than a hundred peoples and nationalities, we are an entire continent! We are the whole world! We have a ton of athletic talent! If other countries want to join, yes, please. And let there be medals of different denominations and champion titles. Summer Spartakiad, Winter. And these... Well, I'm really tired of them! Like chewing gum stuck to the sole. When you really don’t have time, it’s easier not to tear them off, but to change your shoes.

[New Year day]

Quote: depressant

Why is there no Spartakiad of the Peoples of Russia? We are more than a hundred peoples and nationalities, we are an entire continent!

Very good question!

[Sadam]

The site is patriotic and the presentation of news is somewhat different - they restored Rusada with the condition that it would provide a data base for 2013-2015, but our chemists relaxed their buttocks early and continued to play with fate ... well, now you can continue to bawle that this is a slander and everyone does it

[Slavutich]

Give me your finger, they'll bite your hand off

[Kamikaze19]

You know, until the Russian leadership has balls of steel, I am for such sanctions! How much can you uncle poo? It’s long overdue to get out of the vada mok mfla, etc. And so the pindoms are bending and we are bending over. A shame!!! ¡!!!!!!!!

[Dave36]

Handsome guys - they got the money, and beckoned with a loaf of bread, and fucked everyone en masse... Well, let's go without a flag, now sit at home... I give a standing ovation!

[Moskovit]

Our Olympic Tsushima could lead to very sad consequences for the authorities. And no talking heads on Channel One who are trying to blame everything on the Americans will help. Football fans have already begun a boycott of RFPL matches due to police lawlessness. Then another soldier runs, a sailor runs...

[Archivist Vasya]

What kind of sport or jurisprudence is this - politics? This is where all the swinging comes from. No one cares about doping or non-doping; decisions are made guided by the political interests of some states and large companies.
Something like that:
RF - we will soon finish the construction of the Nord Stream!
The EU and the USA means you will do without big sports and world competitions!
It's not fair, but somehow...

[7,62x54]

Let mi speak, from may hart

[Old bun]

Stop being patient already. It's time for Russia to respond harshly! suspended means refusing to compete at the Olympics. Although I feel sorry for the athletes, like people who have lost their jobs, even if they run away, the country will not notice it. These are not engineers and designers, not inventors and workers.

[midshipman]

In general, artists should not be allowed to go on tour abroad. And whoever went there to live would be deprived of citizenship.

[tochila]

They will meet in court!!!! Pull by the ears! Demand evidence! Punish with money and sanctions!

[Awaz]

In order to achieve something in court, you need to have good lawyers. Here even Gazprom uses Western lawyers and loses everything. Local “lawyers” don’t even have the brains to write a simple application to the COURT correctly and legally competently..

[Sapsan136]

It’s time for Russia to stop membership and paying contributions to organizations pursuing anti-Russian policies

[yfast]

All the athletes were sent to defend the flag of Belarus, they came out from everywhere, we don’t pay anything to any wads and mocks, the only sports shown on the box are poker and dominoes. I had a strange dream.

[nikolas 83]

Our authorities and government are lowering the country below the plinth in the international arena. How much can we fawn over Europe and mattresses? Once again they wiped their feet on our country. And our minister also admitted that he was guilty of using the iPhone. And we gave them a gas pipe and the Minsk agreements. Ugh, it’s disgusting to look at all this. Anyone who flies under the white flag should not come back.

[Awaz]

well, this was to be expected.
I don’t understand the guarantor here at all. Initially, all this fuss with doping was directed against him, and WADA even admitted this in a veiled manner.
And it’s not WADA and Western officials who are to blame here, but primarily sports officials in the Russian Federation.
The guarantor should disperse this whole gang and send them to work as physical teachers in village schools for five years, with the same salary that physical teachers are paid.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

The dog's tail begins to wag. WADA is a private American company with which the IOC and other sports federations have entered into an agreement. As a result, WADA is subject to pressure from the American administration, and its “consultants” often have business in the United States, from T-shirts to the sale of sports medications.
Come on, doctors from Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib are employed in VALA.

[NordUral]

There was no need to expose yourself, nor did you have to make excuses. The best defense is an attack, to reveal their lovers of victories under doping, fortunately there are more than enough of them there.
And it’s time to figure out which of “ours” set the country and the athletes up in this way.

[smaug78]

Quote: Altona

Quote: smaug78

But let them tell us: WHO? "

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Who is who? It is highly probable or highlighted that Grisha Rodchenkov is wearing a coat. He had in his hands attendance passwords. The UK does not even know how to approach this matter. Vaughn recently "investigated" the plane crash and immediately blamed the pilot. Although the UK does not have any competencies to investigate accidents, the IAC should deal with this.

Dear, before you shake the air, you should have strained your brains... We were accused of a discrepancy between the 2015 database and the 2019 database. Your Grisha Rodchenkov, who has been in the United States since 2015, edits the database, which is stored in the Investigative Committee. If we allow the cheers about Rodchenkov, then what happened is criminal negligence, which resulted in damage to the country. Under J.V. Stalin for such a VM.
PS This is what the deputy says. RUSADA about the database: “As I understand, the database that existed at the time of the court decision should have been disconnected from the Internet, access to it should have been limited, that is, completely mothballed.” But you continue...

[Altona]

Quote: smaug78

Dear, before you shake the air, you should have strained your brains... We were accused of a discrepancy between the 2015 database and the 2019 database. Your Grisha Rodchenkov, who has been in the United States since 2015, edits the database, which is stored in the Investigative Committee. If we allow the cheers about Rodchenkov, then what happened is criminal negligence, which resulted in damage to the country. Under J.V. Stalin for such a VM.
PS This is what the deputy says. RUSADA about the database: “As I understand, the database that existed at the time of the court decision should have been disconnected from the Internet, access to it should have been limited, that is, completely mothballed.” But you continue...

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I personally don’t care who is there and what continues to rule or prove; jingoism has nothing to do with this. Then who had access to the database? And what database is considered “virgin”? I don’t make excuses for our bureaucratic whiners; they were horsemen in the full sense of the word and probably did something weird. But WADA’s attack on ALL RUSSIAN ATHLETES is also, to put it mildly, unjustified. Information raids have already begun - to reconsider the London and Sochi Olympics, to declare Russia a “gangster state”, to punish collectively and without exception all Russian athletes. Here we can already see pressure on the world sports community, on CAS and on the world community in general. That is, purely political pressure, instead of punishing about 40-50 athletes, and then only with full proof of their guilt and the correct medical method. 40 athletes and such extensive sporting sanctions are proportionate values?

[Liam]

Quote: Altona

instead of punishing about 40-50 athletes

Actually, not 40-50, but 145. And this is not counting about 200 who have already been punished.
Question: Who should punish them? And why doesn’t Russia itself punish them? Well, so that clean athletes don’t suffer. So let Russia itself punish its dopers. Based on the original base of the Moscow laboratory, which is in the hands of the RF Investigative Committee. This will prove to everyone that it is fighting for clean sport and punishing its own cheaters. Armostrong was punished by the Americans themselves not WADA. For example

[Altona]

Quote: Liam

Actually, not 40-50, but 145. And this is not counting about 200 who have already been punished.
Question: Who should punish them?

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So the punishments are already through the roof. ARAF has long been punished, the Paralympians. Biathletes get wet in their tails and manes, and skiers. How many more times should I be punished? WADA will punish, the Investigative Committee will punish for the same thing. This is not just about punishment, but about the dehumanization of all Russian sports. Officials were also banned from coming to the Olympics. The punishments come in a stream. But do we need more punishments and collective punishments? Repress everyone if possible? IMHO, this is already too much, redundant.

[Liam]

Quote: Altona

But do we need more punishments and collective punishments?

So WADA said, give us the original database, punish the cheaters individually and close the topic. So what’s the result? Smart people can’t find anything better than falsifying the database before issuing it. How can we now determine who is clean and who is not? Or was this the intention? Since it is impossible to establish who is clean and who is not, we consider everyone clean so that they do not suffer undeservedly?). I did not channel the option

[Altona]

Quote: Liam

Smart people can't find anything better than falsifying the database before issuing it.

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Don’t distort, we are not talking about the entire database as such, but about several hundred samples, about 400.

[Nuclear_winter]

Well, what about WADA off the duck's back... unfortunately

[Kelwin]

It’s not necessary to do debriefings, but to restore the “L” control.

[cat Rusich]

An athlete who has been preparing for the Olympics at his own expense since childhood can compete under the “white flag”. Advice to Russian athletes - “pin” the Russian flag on their chest

[old_pferd]

https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-50712986

The investigation showed that some of the changes immediately before the transfer of the base were made by the husband of the director of the Moscow laboratory, Elena Mochalova, Evgeniy. He works as a system administrator for the database - now it is managed by Moscow State University.

According to WADA, on December 17, 2018, when experts first arrived at the laboratory, Mochalov “rolled back” the database to the 2015 state. In addition, he changed the dating of the base, but by mistake did it in the wrong format.

The Russian side agreed that Mochalov deliberately made the changes, but did so because he was transferring data to his personal computer to free up disk space. WADA did not accept this argument.

Ganus noted that those who made changes to the database had to bypass the restrictions of the Investigative Committee. In his opinion, this could have been done in the interests of athletes who, after leaving sports, began to work in government (the head of RUSADA did not name specific names)

[Kronos]

Even here they couldn’t help but send fools on missions

[Mr. Zoombye]

Well, yes, “they are all like that, but we are not like that”

[Avior]

subtlety and how to take a photo
and if so, for example

[yasvet]

[quoteAnd we are talking again about the time when Mr. Rodchenkov worked at RusADA.][/quote]
1. “The former head of RUSADA, Grigory Rodchenkov, said a few days ago: “I will make sure that I have 100 samples, and I will destroy all of Russia’s Olympic sports for the next 5 years!”[8].” (With)
2."The head of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), Craig Reedy, openly states that he cannot imagine sport outside of politics: “This is incredible, this is an impossible dream. Politics touches literally every aspect of our lives, and sport is the most important of all the unimportant things in our lives”[11].(c)
Such are the realities... such is the dirt.

[Grigory b]

[quote] [It is additionally noted that the WADA commission decided to ban Russian officials (including representatives of the Russian Olympic Committee) from attending international sports tournaments for the same period./quote] This makes me happy. But for the rest, it’s their own fault. “We don’t hand over our own,” but “our own” are the ones who are now sitting in the leadership of the party in the state fool. As they say, “what they fought for, that’s why they ran into it.” When for the first time from the Olympic Games the debriefing was suspended, heads rolled? Has anyone responded to Rodchinkov’s hiring and awarding him? Let’s pay the loot to WADA again and kill the goat. This is our path with our helmsmen.

[Second major]

I would be very grateful to WADA, IOC and other evil spirits if they FOREVER banned not only attendance at competitions, but also travel outside the Russian Federation to all officials and their households who repented, swore by the Sun and again shit themselves. In this case, things may change.
Yes, and one more thing... All Olympic medalists without the participation of the Russian Federation must be sent personalized wooden medals. So that they remember in what intense struggle they received Olympic awards.

[Sitearvi]

Someone please explain, violations were committed by RUSADA, changes were made to its database, our athletes compete abroad for a whole year, they are checked by WADA commissioners all the time, they won’t get caught for doping. What does this have to do with our athletes? If sports officials are guilty, deprive them of attending sporting events for life, do not touch clean athletes, what have they done wrong? This is very mean towards athletes.

[Mikhail Ivanov]

We are told that the violation was committed a year ago by our government agencies, represented by the Investigative Committee, who controlled the Rusadov database when prohibited changes were made to it a year ago. And athletes are punished to show that promising to provide an untouched database (to restore our sport’s rights in advance) and then deceiving is not good.

[VeteranVSSSR]

Quote: Alex Nevs

AND EVERYONE ascribe the indication of DOCTORS !!!!! All athletes must be sick ... asthmatics, allergy sufferers, drug addicts, depressants .... and everything is possible.

...and a little pregnant!!!!

[Grigory b]

“The punishment is humiliating for Putin, who personally oversaw the spending of tens of billions of dollars on the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi and the 2018 FIFA World Cup. His efforts were aimed at restoring Russia's image as a sports superpower, lost after the collapse of the USSR. After finishing first in Sochi, the most expensive Winter Olympics in history, costing at least $50 billion, Russia was stripped of 13 of its 33 medals due to a doping scandal. <...>

The Kremlin denies all accusations, calling them another anti-Russian campaign.”

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