The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry called the "requirements" that Zelensky will put Putin

Today in Paris a meeting will be held in the so-called Norman format. It will discuss a peaceful settlement in the Donbass. It is noteworthy that some representatives of Ukrainian political elites a few days before the "Norman Summit" announced that it would be better for Ukraine if it does not actually end in anything.

From Ukrainian statements:

Otherwise, it will become surrender.

Against this background, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry announced a “list of requirements” that President Vladimir Zelensky will “put forward” in Paris to Vladimir Putin. Some of the items on this list are: “a complete and permanent ceasefire, complete disarmament of illegal armed groups, their withdrawal, ensuring border control for the Ukrainian security forces, and the holding of elections in the Donbas according to Ukrainian law.”

Such requirements were described on Twitter by Vadim Priestayko, the head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry. According to Priestayko, it doesn’t matter of principle, "in what format it will be possible to achieve - perhaps at a personal meeting between Zelensky and Putin."

The very format of “requirements” looks, to put it mildly, strange.

If Kiev considers LDNR to be its territory, then a complete ceasefire should be started there with demands on its own troops, including the so-called national battalions, which are not openly subordinate to the president. "Withdrawal of illegal groups." The conclusion of whom specifically and where? First, Kiev will have to sit down at the negotiating table with the leaders of the people's republics in order to solve all these issues, rather than try to put ultimatums to Russia, in order to later declare that the Russian Federation "does not fulfill the requirements and obligations."

Comments

[Spartanez300]

As always, they try to demand something impossible or ask for handouts.
It is clear that the meeting will actually end in nothing. Zelensky will begin to bear the usual unimaginable nonsense about the fact that Russia is to blame for everything and what dill they are poor and slaughtered.
First, order in the country needs to be put in place, and only then at the negotiating table and timidly asking for something.

[Uncle lee]

the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry announced a “list of requirements”,

Nobody will fulfill these "requirements", Ze will grumble an offended face and go home .... The rest will talk to each other and that's EVERYTHING!

[bessmertniy]

Artist. He will take the stage, jump the bunny, and will be glad that he earned pennies from the sponsors of the performance.

[Thrall]

The intrigue of the meeting is only whether the Zelensky piano will bring

[hydrox]

Do you think that Zelik will get a standing ovation for his number "with pens"? Or will the Europeans send him denyuh? Or will they apply for the Golden Gramophone? Oscar awarded?
Something is hard to believe in it ...

[Vladimir16]

Fenita la comedy.
Ze went out to shit.
In Ukraine, the Nazis and fascists rule.
Russian is illegal.
Russian people are illegal.

More and more people here and there are seeing and realizing that it was a mistake to stop at Mariupol.
It was necessary to drive the Nazis from Mariupol.
And further to liberate Ukraine from scum.

[cniza]

Quote: bessmertniy

Artist. He will take the stage, jump the bunny, and will be glad that he earned pennies from the sponsors of the performance.

Not that case, he will not get off with dancing, but something that will hurt him for a long time.

[Lelek]

Quote: hydrox

Or the Europeans will send him denyuh to him?

The EU seems to be defrosting its loan to Ruin at $ 500 thousand, and the IMF confirms its loan at $ 5,5 billion .. Total = $ 6 billion .. Of this money, $ 2,5 billion will immediately go out of the money to repay previous loans + %%% .. Those. The ruin for 3 years (until 2022) remains $ 3,5 billion, which it will have to return with interest. As in a joke with boiled eggs and broth after cooking. And this despite the fact that the total external debt is non-stop ~ $ 40 billion .. Ufff and Oops!

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Thrall

The intrigue of the meeting is only whether the Zelensky piano will bring

the most valuable thing that Ze can do.

[major147]

Quote: SASHA OLD

The intrigue of the meeting is only whether the Zelensky piano will bring

If he plays on the “master's”, then the owners will have to burn the piano!

[venik]

Quote: Thrall

The intrigue of the meeting is only whether the Zelensky piano will bring

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a piano - most likely it will NOT bring you .... But "overture"- seems to be going to perform!

[hydrox]

Quote: venik

But the "overture" seems to be going to be performed!

Aha: and this overture will be called: "Interview with a noose around the neck" (c)

[zloybond]

more and more I come to the conclusion that the real topic of the meeting is gas to Europe. The rest is ... tinsel.

[major147]

Quote from Uncle Lee

These "requirements"

"Bankrupts cannot demand, they can only ask!" (c) S.V. Lavrov

[bouncyhunter]

The requirements of the skakuas are formed in such a way that the summit ends with nothing.

it will be better for Ukraine if it does not actually end in anything

[major147]

Quote: bouncyhunter

The requirements of the skakuas are formed in such a way that the summit ends with nothing.

it will be better for Ukraine if it does not actually end in anything

For that there will be a cry about the next "peremog" over Russia, like "did not surrender" to Putin!

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: major147

For that there will be a cry about the next "peremog" over Russia, like "did not surrender" to Putin!

Undoubtedly! There is a tendency: they scream about "overcoming", but then for some reason it turns into "zrada". Will it not be so this time?

[major147]

Quote: bouncyhunter

yell about "peremog", but then for some reason it turns into "zrada"

As Julius Caesar jokingly said: "Defeat is such a special kind of victory!"

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: major147

"Defeat is such a special kind of victory!"

Yeah, and there’s a good historical example - Pyrrhic victory.

[major147]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Quote: major147

"Defeat is such a special kind of victory!"

Yeah, and there’s a good historical example - Pyrrhic victory.

Yes, yes! But here is more about the price of a real victory.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: major147

real victory

Something Ukraine has victory in words and on paper ...

[major147]

Quote: bouncyhunter

victory in words and on paper ..

I meant Pyrova.

[bouncyhunter]

Guilty, I’ll correct it.

[major147]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Guilty, I’ll correct it.

[mikh-korsakov]

Major! The Norman format is empty chores in a state house. As for the sonata "Peremoga" for radicals with tires, it has already been rehearsed and all the musicians and singers are already in place.

[major147]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

Norman format - empty troubles in a state-owned house.

I have no doubt a single gram!

[Lelek]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

As for the sonata "Peremoga" for radicals with tires, it has already been rehearsed and all the musicians and singers are already in place.

It was assumed that today a provocative action will be held under the leadership of Chubarov on the border with the Crimea. Something is not heard from the border guards that this took place.

Except for the screams of Valtsman, Tyagnybok and the moron Parubiy in front of a paid crowd of pots-heads and promises in posters to execute the "green idol" - no movement. Valtsman's "accomplices" (Timoshenko and others like him ...) acted far-sightedly, they simply did not appear either on Bankovskaya or near the presidential "bungalow".

[mikh-korsakov]

A lion! I thought so. As we were taught by mathematicians. QED quod erad demonstrandum ..

[hydrox]

What to do :: the specific gravity of gray matter per one head is obviously not enough to consider this power even advanced, and to call it outstanding or worthy - that’s not even the point
And by the way, it is very interesting who these lyudyns were "in their past life", before they took up positions in Prospect and the State? Whoever would take up this issue, and it is necessary to separately take into account the nature of the work (creative, design, management in pr-ve, scientific, pedagogical ...) and separately register the education received and the correspondence of education to the work performed - I would very much like millions of readers to get acquainted with the managers of their native and a neighboring country.
I foresee that it could be SUCH a BOMB ...

[Hto tama]

You are right, the meeting will end in nothing. And given the fake scandals that inflated the okurat before the meeting, it may end more dramatically (I mean the Georgian militant killed in Germany and the so-called spy base in the Alps). Merkel and Macron will put pressure on VVP, not on Zelensky. But even if there will be a zero option, when everyone comes to the conclusion that it is necessary to observe the Minsk agreements, then for the LPNR this is again the same "jaded record", because
nothing will change for the republics. It is not clear why Kiev does not have a time frame, such and such a time for the withdrawal of troops, so much for the political part, etc., etc. No, everything is clear from the west, they don’t need the world , the position of the Russian Federation is not clear. Well, as they say in the evening everything will be clear, we’ll see concerts on all TV channels: well, I couldn’t ... Somehow

[Lelek]

Quote: Hto tama

It is not clear why Kiev is not given a time frame, such and such a time for the withdrawal of troops, so much for the political part, etc., etc.

And what is incomprehensible. If we take the events in the Donbass in time brackets, it means to recognize that these events are purely Ukrainian corps de ballet and that Russia is not here, that the West was deceiving itself and erroneously imposing sanctions on Russia. Do you feel what chain? Therefore, both the EU and the US with NATO will observe their ONCE ONCE accepted status quo.

[antivirus]

Kokhly are right, ask for more, counting on the minimum necessary.
it all depends on the concessions of the outskirts of the EU, they put in a word to GDP.
we will see how firm the will of the Guarantor is "not to feed the hostile state" (from 2014)

[hydrox]

What a delight, after all, to read babble, written, it seems, not in a psychiatric hospital and, it seems, by people endowed with great state powers, but to call it written is nothing but dog’s nonsense.
Where did these people come from, from which virgin corner of the taiga did they leave, and where is this piece of taiga m. located not somewhere, but in Ukraine - such a wonderful place that civilization couldn’t get to, and these human-like clothes are dressed in unpainted skins of wild animals - oh, and the scumbags should be there !!!
Interestingly, do these homogenous people even have a written language?
How can they also read?
Can not be!!
And in what language? On the move? And this is the language of which linguistic group?
Ah, Slavic !?
Excuse me, how is it possible in the Slavic language to yell at fascist slogans and call for the murder of Russians !?
Ah, you don't know either?
So spruce trees, where is it possible for these human-like to find a place for their resettlement, even if their proximity carries a danger to life!
Well, at least they don’t eat human meat - and then all right ...
But the UN Extraordinary Assembly on the issue of resettlement must be assembled: this homo-like has no place among people at all.

[bessmertniy]

It is painful to read what the last gangsters who genocide of Ukraine turned into normal Soviet people.

[Donald72]

So let them demand what they see fit. Russia is here with all questions to the DPR and LPR, our country is located to the east. Let the map look.

[samarin1969]

Ukraine is moving its demands pawn further down the board. Prystaiko expressed himself categorically: first - the border, then - elections + "recognition" of "OSCE".

ps This meeting has an unusual information background. On New Year's Eve over the past 30 years, there have been many betrayals of Russia's interests.

[hydrox]

Yes, you know, somehow you’ll no longer get used to it ...
These scoundrels consider Russia to be the embodiment of the dark forces of the world, but no one bothers us to believe that it is there, in the West, that hatred for people, malice towards neighbors, incontinence of words and obligations to "not our own" and generation of all sorts of meanness towards Russia are nesting. And yet, on the basis of what data do they allow themselves to consider their civilization higher than ours? A thousand years ago, Russia already had a state, when the Europeans were still taking away land from each other in small bands, and they had no idea about the uniting force of a single state!

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: hydrox

on the basis of what data do they allow themselves to consider their civilization above ours? A thousand years ago, Russia already had a state, when the Europeans took away land from each other in small gangs, and even had no idea about the unifying power of a single state!

Hand on heart, and in Europe then there was a huge state - the empire of Charlemagne. Even a little earlier than Kievan Rus ...
This in no way justifies the position of the banderlogs, who have nothing to do with Ancient Russia than the current inhabitants of Egypt to the Egyptian pyramids.

[hydrox]

I can only partially agree: the empire of Charlemagne was not centralized, but a vassal state-government, which did not have a unified policy in each of its parts and a purposeful civilizational policy directed outside the state-government (this was the characteristic of the corresponding policy of the Russian state-government).

[rotmistr60]

Foreign Ministry of Ukraine announced a “list of requirements”

Apparently everything seems to be even dumber and more radical than Klimkin. Better send an additional doctor with Zelensky. But it would not have happened that he had not yet begun to make demands, but had already fainted.

[hydrox]

They don’t need a doctor there, but a healthy man with an armful of rods, and this event should not be held in Porizh, but in the back yard of the stable, and not the doctor should be assigned to him, but to prepare shackles (hand and foot, so that the deplorably vulgar slop platitude with pho-no longer showed the civilizer crap!)
And to give away the whispered granny whisperer :: with a rushnykin he’ll dunk, sprinkle with lycopodia, he will spit once or twice - he will not die, he will survive!

[rocket757]

The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry called the "requirements" that Zelensky will put Putin

The minister who is especially consonant with "echoing metal" is no longer there ... but from a change of places there, too, nothing changes.

[RussianUzbek]

And the face will not crack from Wishlist ?!

[Vladimir61]

Healed the wounds and decided that it was already possible to demand. Or maybe the leadership of the D / LPR, in response to this, start demanding a full restoration of the legal status quo of Ukraine as of 2013, before the coup in February 2014, and only then, to talk about the status of the Republics?

[serg.shishkov2015]

I remember his performances in KVN - it was really cool! And now ,,, Textovik needs to be changed, but it’s unlikely to work out

[Kelwin]

elections in the Donbass under Ukrainian law

But nothing will crack? Well let's see. We will not say where to go, in theory they themselves know ...

[Graz]

Putin will send him with these requirements to the DPR and LPR, that's the whole conversation, let him go there and negotiate with people if he considers them to be his fellow citizens and residents of Ukraine

[BAI]

announced that it would be better for Ukraine if it does not actually end in anything.

So it will end in nothing. Mb agree on gas transit.

[aszzz888]

According to Priestayko, it doesn’t matter of principle, "in what format it will be possible to achieve - perhaps at a personal meeting between Zelensky and Putin."

Another ukrokaklovsky verbiage.

[Ros 56]

The main thing is that the demanding one is not torn off with the head.

[Guards turn]

They wipe their feet on the litter, but do not consult with it. Nobody is friends with the weak, they are finished off.

[Herrmakedon]

I am not an adherent of the Darkest, but: if the residents and guests of VO understand everything and the result of this meeting is known, is the GDP really so naive and does not know about ukrov’s wishes?
Just a ride to drink coffee is also not about him, so the focus will be, it remains to wait :)

[faterdom]

And already someone has allowed them to demand something? If they, together with the United States, cannot do anything, then all these "Wishlist" are just "Vera Pavlovna's eighth dream", which you can equally well share with your friends, or you may not.

[Berkut24]

I propose to list all these requirements on a grinder for a grinder and put it in a wonderful place, which is only for Ceyevropeans - a dupu.

[usr01]

Strange ... The clown is trying to demand something from the KGB officer ... (and the KGB officers and officers are not former)

[Sapsan136]

Let him demand in his circus, Russia owes him nothing, and Ukraine has never been to Donbass

[major147]

Quote: bouncyhunter

yell about "peremog", but then for some reason it turns into "zrada"

As Julius Caesar jokingly said: "Defeat is such a special kind of victory!"

[Andrey Kirilenko_2]

Lenka will demand his if not sucker

[BARKHAN]

When it’s interesting, the authorities will understand that the Nazis and Russophobes should be simply destroyed. Then, when will they be near Moscow again, and remember that it is your children and grandchildren who will die ... An entire generation of Bandera Natsiks is growing, nothing connects them with Russia

[Piramidon]

Against this background, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry announced a “list of requirements” that President Vladimir Zelensky will “put forward” in Paris to Vladimir Putin.

He’s stamping his foot, knocking his fist and Putin will surrender?

[Retvizan 8]

What?
Zelensky, put forward requirements to Putin?
In general, the meeting will be held within the framework of the Geneva format for the implementation of the Minsk agreements.
What does the new want Zelensky?
It's all the same that everyone will come to play volleyball, and he will bring a hockey uniform with a stick.))

[monster]

Burn, God, Svidomity can not be saved!

[high]

If Kiev considers LDNR to be its territory, then ensuring a complete ceasefire there must begin with demands on its own troops, including called national batswho frankly do not obey the president. "Withdrawal of illegal groups."

National Battles have long been gone ....

First, Kiev will have to sit down at the negotiating table with the leaders of the people's republics,

Kiev will never sit down with, “the leaders of the people's republics,” they decide nothing ....

[samarin1969]

Quote: hydrox

only no one bothers us to believe that it is there, in the West, that hatred for people, malice towards neighbors, incontinence of words and obligations to "strangers" and generation of all sorts of meanness in relation to Russia are nesting.

Regarding "no one bothers", unfortunately, not everything is so uniform. The opinion of the majority of VO participants always outweighs the opinion of some "posner" ...

[Lena Petrova]

It will end with the separation of the LPR - DPR. But at what border is the question?

[cat Rusich]

V. Zelensky may require a "bunch of snowdrops" in December ...

[PValery53]

Instead of presenting its absurd "demands and conditions," the Ukrainian side should have shown "servility and humility" in order to get at least something a little. And we have a very big "bolt" for the "requirements and conditions" of Ukraine. The question is about the fate of Ukraine, and in this case it should not fuss "under the riders" ...

[zenitovets]

The leader of the Papuans came with nothing, and left with nothing! richer with rumor ...