Turkish air defense radar: will they ensure the safety of air borders?

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Turkish air defense radar: will they ensure the safety of air borders?

Radar Center in the vicinity of Diyarbakir

Once again, I am convinced that comments on individual articles published on Military Review can be an inexhaustible source of inspiration. The statements of some visitors on some issues are so “masterpiece” that sometimes there is a desire to tell more about this. It’s a pity that readers who constantly “graze” in the section “News", They often do not consider it necessary to get acquainted with what goes out in the Armament section, and they continue to pile up in their posts one absurdity over another. And this time, I suspect, this publication, addressed primarily to lovers of wilderness, will shoot idle, and a very modest circle of readers interested in air defense issues will once again familiarize themselves with it.

In the recent past, Military Review published several articles on the delivery to Turkey of Russian long-range C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems and how this affected Russian-Turkish and Turkish-American relations. It was believed that the deployment of C-400 on Turkish territory would put an end to Ankara’s military cooperation with Washington, which could potentially lead to Turkey’s withdrawal from NATO. Some readers even stated that only now Turkey has become a truly independent state, since before that Ankara had no air defense at all and the country was completely defenseless from air strikes. Is this really so and what before was the Turkish air defense system? We’ll talk about this today.



Turkey's role during the Cold War


During the Cold War, Turkey was the closest ally of the United States and held key positions on NATO’s southern flank, controlling the Bosporus and the Dardanelles. The Turkish armed forces have always been one of the largest in NATO and equipped with fairly modern technology. As a member of the North Atlantic Alliance since the 1952 of the year, Turkey contained armed forces of more than 700 thousand people (now there are about 500 thousand people in the Turkish army).

The military cooperation of Ankara and Washington was very close, as evidenced by the deployment of medium-range ballistic missiles in Turkish territory. In 1961, in the vicinity of the Turkish city of Izmir, 5 positions were prepared for the 15 BRMD PGM-19 Jupiter. The deployment of Jupiter missiles in Turkey was one of the causes of the Caribbean crisis, which put the world on the brink of a nuclear disaster. In addition, an over-the-horizon AN / FPS-17 radar with a range of 1600 km was built in Diyarbakir in southeastern Turkey, designed to track the test launches of Soviet missiles at the Kapustin Yar training ground. American experts participated in the creation of the Turkish airborne tracking radar network. Particular attention was paid to the areas adjacent to the Turkish-Bulgarian and Turkish-Soviet borders.

American reconnaissance aircraft operated from Turkish air bases, and nuclear bombers could also use them as jump airfields weapons on board. Moreover, highly protected "nuclear bunkers" were built at the Turkish Incirlik airbase, where about 50 free-falling B61 ​​thermonuclear bombs are still stored. According to the plans of the NATO command, in the event of a full-scale military conflict with the Warsaw Pact countries, Turkish fighter-bombers could be involved in nuclear attacks. From the beginning of 1950 to the second half of the 1980s, Turkish aviation regularly made reconnaissance flights over the Black Sea; there were also violations of the state border with the USSR and Bulgaria.

During the Cold War, Turkey, which had a common border with the USSR and Bulgaria, was considered a likely opponent of the Warsaw Pact countries, and from the south neighbors were not friendly Iraq and Syria. With this in mind, the Turkish top military-political leadership paid great attention to improving air defense, in order to prevent a breakthrough in air attack to important administrative, political, industrial and military facilities. Very significant by the standards of poor Turkey resources were invested in the development of a radar network, the construction of airbases with capital runways and concrete shelters, the purchase of jet attack aircraft, fighter interceptors and anti-aircraft missile systems. The Turkish Navy was tasked with countering the united fleets USSR, Bulgaria and Romania on the Black Sea, as well as preventing the breakthrough of enemy warships through the straits.

Ground-based radars for airspace control


As in other NATO countries, control of the airspace of Turkey and the border territories of other states is carried out using radar posts organizationally subordinate to the command of the Air Force. In the past, Turkish forces were mainly equipped with American-made radars. Since the second half of the 1960-ies, AN / TPS-44 radars operating in the 1,25 frequency range up to 1,35 GHz have been operated in Turkey. These two-axis radars are usually paired with the AN / MPS-14 radio altimeter and are able to control airspace at ranges up to 270 km. At present, the AN / TPS-44 and AN / MPS-14 radars are considered obsolete and are decommissioned as new equipment arrives.


Antenna post radar AN / TPS-44

At the end of the 1980, the Turkish military appeared at the disposal of the US Hughes HR-3000 long-range stationary stationary radars with a phased array 4,8 size at 6 m.The radar operating in the 3 frequency range up to 3,5 GHz is capable of detecting a large high-altitude air target at a distance of up to 500 km. To protect from adverse weather factors, the antenna post is covered with a plastic dome with a diameter of 12 m.


To replace the obsolete American-made radars, the Turkish state corporation Havelsan in the past carried out the licensed assembly of the TRS 2215 Parasol three-coordinate radars.


Radar TRS 2215 Parasol

A stationary radar operating in the 2-2,5 GHz frequency range is capable of controlling airspace within a radius of 500 km. It was created on the basis of the French SATRAPE radar developed by Thomson-CSF in the early 1980's, and has been in operation since the mid-1990's.


Antenna post radar TRS 2230

A mobile option is 2230 TRS with a detection range of about 350 km. The TRS 2215 and TRS 2230 radars have the same transceiver systems, data processing tools and components of the antenna system, and their difference is in the size of the antenna arrays. Such unification makes it possible to increase the flexibility of the logistics of stations and the quality of their service.

In the 1980-1990, the Turkish Air Force received AN / FPS-117 radars and mobile versions AN / TPS-77 from the United States. Three-coordinate radars with a phased antenna array operate in the frequency range in the frequency range 1215-1400 MHz and can see high-altitude air targets at ranges up to 470 km.


Antenna post radar AN / TPS-77

AN / TPS-77 mobile radars are usually located in the vicinity of air bases, fixed AN / FPS-117 radars are installed at key points on high ground, and are protected by a radio-transparent dome.

Google Earth satellite image: radar post near the Turkish-Bulgarian border

The most modern of the stationary ones are two Selex RAT-31DL radars from the British-Italian consortium Leonardo SpA. These are the latest three-coordinate radars operating in the 1,2 frequency band up to 1,4 GHz, with an active phased array and a detection range of altitude targets of more than 500 km. In addition to Turkey, the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland have become buyers of these powerful modern radars that can also fix ballistic targets.


Radar Selex RAT-31DL

The AN / MPQ-64F1 radars are intended for tracking low-altitude targets, issuing target designation of short-range air defense systems and anti-aircraft artillery. This station was developed by Hughes Aircraft and is currently manufactured by Raytheon Corporation.


Radar AN / MPQ-64

The upgraded three-axis pulsed-Doppler radar AN / MPQ-64F1 with a phased array operating in the 8-9 GHz band ensures the detection of targets such as a bomber at a distance of up to 75 km, a fighter - up to 40 km, a cruise missile - up to 30 km. For transportation of the antenna post of the AN / MPQ-64F1 radar, an army cross-country vehicle is usually used. The operator’s workstation is located inside the machine. The upgraded low-altitude station is capable of seeing air targets at an altitude of up to 12000 m, and also, by constructing a trajectory, to pinpoint the coordinates of artillery and mortar positions. AN / MPQ-64F1 radars usually do not have constant combat duty, some of them are on standby at large military bases and in the vicinity of airfields.

AN / TPY-2 ballistic missile detection radar


Special mention should be made of the AN / TPY-2 radar located at a military base located 5 km southwest of the village of Durulova in the province of Malatya. AN / TPY-2 radar deployed in southeast Turkey is designed to track missile launches from Iran and is serviced by the American contingent. However, according to the agreement concluded in 2011 between the USA and Turkey, the facility is managed by the Turkish military, they are also responsible for security.


Google Earth satellite image: military base in the province of Malatya, on the territory of which the AN / TPY-2 missile defense system is deployed
The radar information received from the anti-ballistic missile radar is transmitted in real time via satellite channels to the regional NATO air defense / missile command posts, and to the Turkish command center located at the Diyarbakir air base. A number of sources say that the Israeli military also has access to data from radars in the province of Malatya, but the parties do not comment on this issue.


Radar AN / TPY-2

The AN / TPY-2 mobile missile warning radar deployed in Turkey is located at an altitude of 2000 m above sea level, and approximately 700 km away from the border with Iran. According to information published by Raytheon Corporation, a radar operating in the 8,55-10 GHz frequency range is capable of fixing ballistic targets over the horizon at a distance of up to 4700 km.

Turkish Long Range Radar Aircraft


Taking into account the fact that part of the territory of Turkey and neighboring states has mountainous terrain, ground-based radars do not provide a view of the airspace at low altitudes. For complete control of the adjacent airspace, guidance of the actions of combat aviation and the issuance of target designation of air defense systems, the Turkish military decided to purchase AWACS aircraft. In July 2003, Boeing was awarded a $ 1,385 billion contract for the delivery of four Boeing 737 AEW & C Peace Eagles. During the negotiations preceding the conclusion of the contract, the Turkish side managed to achieve the transfer of critical technologies and participation in the construction of AWACS aircraft to the Turkish Aerospace Industries national aircraft building corporation. Another Turkish subcontractor, Havelsan, is responsible for data processing hardware and software. Havelsan Corporation became the only foreign contractor to which the American company Northrop Grumman Electronic Systems transferred the initial software for the control system of the radar and the equipment for analyzing the initial radar information.


Aircraft AWACS Boeing 737 AEW & C Peace Eagle Turkish Air Force

Aircraft AWACS with a maximum take-off weight of 77600 kg has a cruising flight speed of 850 km / h, and can be patrolled without refueling in the air for 7,5 hours. Crew: 6-9 people. A radar with a fixed flat active phased antenna array located above the fuselage has a detection range of large altitude targets of more than 600 km. Side view zones are 120 °, forward and backward are 60 °. Equipment for processing primary radar information and a central computer are installed directly below the antenna. The maximum detection range of aircraft on the background of the earth is 370 km. Sea targets - 250 km. The on-board computer system allows you to simultaneously track 180 targets and issue targeting on 24 targets. It is reported that on the next three aircraft, specialists from the Turkish Havelsan corporation installed Israeli-made electronic equipment, which should improve the capabilities in terms of the number of simultaneously tracked targets and fighters aimed at them. Also, it became possible to classify and determine the coordinates of ground-based sources of high-frequency radiation.


Satellite image of Google Earth: AWACS aircraft Boeing 737 AEW & C Peace Eagle of the Turkish Air Force parked at the Konya airbase
The first Turkish long-range radar aircraft was handed over to the Air Force in February 2014 of the year. Judging by satellite imagery, all aircraft reached operational readiness in the 2016 year. Currently, they are permanently deployed at the Konya airbase in the southwestern part of the country. The Turkish Air Force AWACS aircraft are operated quite intensively, making patrol flights along the border with Syria, Iraq and Iran, and over the Aegean and Mediterranean Seas.


Google Earth satellite image: Turkish and American AWACS aircraft at Konya airbase

In addition to Turkish AWACS aircraft, 1-2 American E-3С Sentry aircraft, AWACS systems are constantly present at Konya airbase. U.S. Air Force long-range radar patrols mainly patrol the southern direction, coordinating the actions of American combat aircraft over Syria, and control the Mediterranean.

Status and capabilities of Turkish radar airspace control


In Turkey, 9 stationary radar posts are currently deployed, integrated into the NATO air defense information system, whose command post is at the Ramstein airbase in Germany.


Layout of stationary radar posts in Turkey, which are part of the unified NATO air defense information system
In total, the Turkish Air Force command has more than 40 stationary and mobile radars, of which about half are on constant combat duty. The average running hours for stationary radars is 16-18 hours per day. Turkish radars carry round-the-clock duty and provide a continuous radar field over the entire territory of the country. Powerful radar stations located on the coast and in the border areas provide detection of aircraft at medium and high altitudes outside the territory of Turkey at a distance of 350-400 km. Thanks to the use of AWACS patrols over neutral waters, it becomes possible to fix low-altitude targets at a distance of more than 1000 km from the Turkish border.


The layout of permanent radar posts in Turkey

In addition to air traffic control, radio units are entrusted with interaction with civilian air traffic controllers regarding air traffic regulation. The existing stationary radar posts are connected into a single network by digital cable communication channels; a radio network is used for duplication. The central air traffic control point is located in the vicinity of Ankara.


Google Earth satellite image: post-radar air defense command post at 20 km south of Ankara

From the foregoing, we can conclude that Turkey has a developed network of radar stations that allows around-the-clock control of airspace over the entire territory of the country, timely issuance of target designation to ground-based air defense systems and direct fighters at violators of the air border. In addition to quite numerous radars for detecting air targets, the Turkish military has at its disposal supersonic fighter-interceptors and anti-aircraft missile systems. But we will talk about them in the next part of the review.

To be continued ...
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  1. +2
    9 December 2019 07: 23
    A good review article, it would be nice to find out about the likely scenario of the confrontation between Turkey and the United States, from the point of view of Turkish air defense. But what will be continued will be.
    1. +3
      9 December 2019 08: 05
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      it would be nice to learn about the likely scenario of the confrontation between Turkey and the USA, from the point of view of Turkish air defense

      Do you believe in a possible military confrontation between Turkey and the United States?
      1. 0
        9 December 2019 08: 09
        There is a potential adversary, but there is a likely adversary. States are increasingly pushing Turkey into their likely opponents. And as for faith ... If there is a non-zero probability, then it is worth considering.
        1. +5
          9 December 2019 08: 21
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          There is a potential adversary, but there is a likely adversary. States are increasingly pushing Turkey into their likely opponents. And as for faith ... If there is a non-zero probability, then it is worth considering.

          There are no serious prerequisites for a military clash between the United States and Turkey. Erdogan, for all his hops, is not so stupid as to dig his own grave. In addition, do not discount the very deep and longstanding ties between the American and Turkish military. Most of the equipment in the Turkish Armed Forces is American-made, all Turkish high-ranking military men studied in the USA. There are several American military bases in Turkey. In terms of long-term prospects, Turkey is even more needed for the USA than Turkey for the Americans. What is now observed in US-Turkish relations is blackmail by the Turkish leadership. Sooner or later, the Turks bargain for themselves additional preferences, and between them again there will be love.
          1. +3
            9 December 2019 08: 23
            Well there is no way. For a simple review article is not bad.
            1. +5
              9 December 2019 08: 33
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Well there is no way.

              It is a personal matter for everyone whether or not to believe in the possibility of lasting allied relations between Turkey and Russia. Based on my knowledge and experience, I do not believe. No.
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              For a simple review article is not bad.
              hi
              1. +2
                9 December 2019 17: 44
                Quote: Bongo
                Based on my knowledge and experience, I do not believe.

                Historical experience says the same thing! drinks
          2. -1
            9 December 2019 19: 14
            Quote: Bongo
            There are no serious prerequisites for a military clash between the United States and Turkey.

            clear stump

            Will Lithuania unfasten almost 90 billion Euros by nature?
            Then only Turkish Maidan can help

            Enver Kiraz, head of the Provincial Opposition Republican People’s Party (ILP) in Malatya, said the government should announce the total number of US soldiers to be deployed.
            As local residents, we have the right to know the number of troops to be deployed here.
            . He also said there are rumors that three Israeli soldiers will be stationed at the radar center and will allegedly make key decisions there.
            Malatya's safety is in danger. We do not need this radar or US troops here. Our mission is not to protect Israel
            ,
            - said Kiraz.
  2. +2
    9 December 2019 07: 46
    From the foregoing, we can conclude that Turkey has a developed network of radar stations,

    In fact, the statement that Turkey has the second largest and most powerful army in NATO has always been repeated! To assume that this army does not have a developed air defense network would be on top ... naivety.
    1. +4
      9 December 2019 08: 13
      Quote: rocket757
      In fact, the statement that Turkey has the second largest and most powerful army in NATO has always been repeated! To assume that this army does not have a developed air defense network would be on top ... naivety.

      Victor, it’s for you to assume this is the height of naivety. request I took up this topic after being tired of reading in the comments on Military Review, like this:
      Quote: lucul
      So Turkey AT ALL did not have its own air defense ...
      wassat
      1. +2
        9 December 2019 08: 43
        Sergey welcome soldier
        I understand that we have here, for the most part, "couch troops", but over time it should be put off in our heads that to perceive TURKEY simply as "all inclusive" and "oriental bazaar" is the height of ... naivety!
        So many articles have been written, there’s more than enough information on the internet ... and nobody forbade self-education!
        It’s time to bury many stereotypes for a long time and not to remember more about them.
        1. +2
          9 December 2019 08: 51
          Quote: rocket757
          I understand that we have here, for the most part, "couch troops", but over time it should be put off in our heads that to perceive TURKEY simply as "all inclusive" and "oriental bazaar" is the height of ... naivety!
          So many articles have been written, there’s more than enough information on the internet ... and nobody forbade self-education!
          It’s time to bury many stereotypes for a long time and not to remember more about them.

          Victor, I generally took up writing on VO after I was tired of reading any nonsense in the comments. Although my wife still teases me about this. As for the "couch troops", many, having moved to the sofa from the position of the radar operator, the control panel of the air defense system, or from the pilot's seat, did not lose their knowledge. Remembering the same Ancient, how much he fought with "uryalka", trying to explain elementary things. Unfortunately, a significant part of the people do not want to engage in self-education, and propagandists from the first channel often defeat common sense.
          1. 0
            9 December 2019 09: 06
            Thoughtless "uryak" is more dangerous than criticism of the same principle! Because ANYONE does not withstand the test and is destroyed one, two, any unfavorable circumstances! And then what, emptiness, in contrast to reasonable, thoughtful support and even criticism ... there is knowledge, at least some, and this is no longer EMPTY! We need at least a basis, which can always be replenished, if desired.
  3. -2
    9 December 2019 08: 18
    There is one BUT. Turks, as a member of NATO, cannot deploy air defense systems on the borders with Armenia and Greece, as well as on the coast of the Aegean Sea - in an area where the problem of the delimitation of territorial waters and airspace between Turkey and Greece has not been resolved. S-400 can be placed ANYWHERE!
    1. +2
      9 December 2019 08: 31
      Quote: knn54
      There is one BUT. Turks, as a member of NATO, cannot deploy air defense systems on the borders with Armenia and Greece, as well as on the coast of the Aegean Sea - in an area where the problem of the delimitation of territorial waters and airspace between Turkey and Greece has not been resolved. S-400 can be placed ANYWHERE!

      Sorry, but I can not categorically agree with you. No.
      The picture shows the stationary position of the long-range air defense system "Nike-Hercules" in the vicinity of Urla.

      In the past, air defense systems "Rapira" and "Hawk" were repeatedly deployed in the border areas with Greece, Armenia and Georgia.
      1. -2
        9 December 2019 10: 27
        Sergey, the Nike Hercules air defense system was installed by NATO back in the days of the USSR. And mobile air defense systems were deployed during the conflicts with Greece. There are no STATIONARY, MODERN complexes ..
        1. +1
          9 December 2019 10: 42
          Quote: knn54
          There are no STATIONARY, MODERN complexes ..

          So what? Do not confuse a stationary position with a stationary complex. SAM NIM Hercules MIM-14, although hopelessly outdated, but in Turkey this is the latest modification with radar AN / MPQ-43 and AN / FPS-75. Relocation of such a complex is possible.
          You write:
          Quote: knn54
          Turks, as a member of NATO, cannot deploy air defense systems on the borders with Armenia and Greece, as well as on the coast of the Aegean Sea - in an area where the problem of the delimitation of territorial waters and airspace between Turkey and Greece has not been resolved.
          Turks in any part of their territory have the right to deploy any kind of anti-aircraft systems.
  4. 0
    9 December 2019 12: 34
    Well, depending on who is being defended, it’s no secret that the Patriot quietly leaks out the data on the air situation (as the high-ranking regular turkish slider from the pool said in passing), the game with peeping at the opponent’s cards turns out, and the client will roll off the money himself so that he is divorced. According to the S-400, it is also possible (though they only yell about this possibility in the west, which confirms the saying about the thief and his shouts of the guard-koroch, they probably use this chip). Ours have stated and are declaring only truncated in comparison with their native TTXs, but they believe Turks or not, this is the tenth case, they won’t be sure to check on our planes whether or not their C-400 will be red. Bought and thanks for that.
    1. 0
      9 December 2019 13: 03
      Quote: evgen1221
      Well, depending on who is being defended, it’s no secret that the patriot quietly leaks out the data on the air situation (which a high-ranking regular turkish tilt from the puddle casually let slip), a game with peeping at the opponent’s cards turns out, and the client will roll the money himself so that he is divorced.

      Forgive me, could you eliminate my ignorance and explain what can "merge" the Patriot air defense system to the side if the Turkish long-range surveillance radars are already connected to the Link 11 and Link 16 data exchange networks, through which information is automatically transmitted in an automated mode to NATO command posts?
      Quote: evgen1221
      Ours declared and are declaring only truncated in comparison with their native performance characteristics,

      I am also very interested in what the S-400s delivered to Turkey are still "truncated", except for the state recognition system and the regimental / brigade level ACS?
      1. -3
        9 December 2019 17: 29
        You yourself answered the second question, the first one, although I’m not special, but in the light of 2014, when we glonass turned off at once and then clicked on it (it’s a coincidence that at that moment we agreed to Minsk-1 and the stop signal in Donbass agreed) then I’m almost sure that the bookmarks in the interests of the mattresses are in any of their complex weapons systems delivered abroad and the ally is not an ally in this case (they listen to Merkel for example), maybe such actions are right.
        1. 0
          10 December 2019 02: 57
          Quote: evgen1221
          You yourself answered the second question, the first one, although I’m not special

          Sometimes it is better to remain silent ... especially if "not special". Write about what you understand.
        2. +1
          10 December 2019 04: 14
          Quote: evgen1221
          You yourself answered the second question, the first one, although I’m not special, but in the light of 2014, when we glonass turned off at once and then clicked on it (it’s a coincidence that at that moment we agreed to Minsk-1 and the stop signal in Donbass agreed) then I’m almost sure that the bookmarks in the interests of the mattresses are in any of their complex weapons systems delivered abroad and the ally is not an ally in this case (they listen to Merkel for example), maybe such actions are right.

          You about Thomas, and you about Yeryoma .... request
  5. +4
    9 December 2019 13: 17
    Thanks Sergey hi Hello everyone.
    In the 1980-1990s, the Turkish Air Force received AN / FPS-117 radars from the United States ...
    ... and the mobile versions of AN / TPS-77.
    In July 2003, a $ 1,385 billion contract was signed with Boeing for the delivery of four Boeing 737 AEW & C Peace Eagle
    1. +5
      9 December 2019 13: 26
      Comrade Sanchez, thank you very much for the videos, I watched with pleasure!
      In Turkey, stationary AN / FPS-117 radars are all covered by radiotransparent domes protecting from meteorological effects.
      1. +2
        9 December 2019 13: 34
        You're welcome smile
        ... AN / FPS-117 are all covered by radiotransparent domes protecting from meteorological impact.

        As a precaution ... especially in today's weather drinks
  6. 0
    9 December 2019 13: 26
    The article is definitely a plus. It is nice to read articles by a competent person.
    I was somewhat confused by the possibility mentioned by the author of Turkish AWACS aircraft with fixed antenna arrays to provide visibility not only in the side but also in the front and rear zones. As far as I know, the overlapping of the 360 ​​degree viewing area in such systems is provided by maneuvering the aircraft (for example, flying a snake). It would be nice to know how the processes of collecting, processing and distributing data received from heterogeneous airborne detection systems, the level of automation of these processes, which ACS are used for this, etc., are organized in Turkey and other NATO. After all, without such ACS there is no echeloned and coordinated system You will not create air defense. I believe that such information is published very openly in foreign media.
    It is also advisable, when discussing such technical articles, to abandon speculations on the topic of who is whose ally and who will be bored with whom in the event of a mess. Moreover, the level of our awareness in these matters is very, very low. And if you really want to reflect on this topic, then do without toilet jargon.
    1. -1
      9 December 2019 13: 34
      Quote: gregor6549
      I was somewhat confused by the possibility mentioned by the author of Turkish AWACS aircraft with fixed antenna arrays to provide visibility not only in the side but also in the front and rear zones. As far as I know, the overlapping of the 360 ​​degree viewing area in such systems is provided by maneuvering the aircraft (for example, flying a snake).

      According to Northrop Grumman Electronic Systems brochures:
      The MESA radar antenna assembly, 10,8 m long and 3,4 m high, includes an array of electronic collectors with side radiation 7,3 m long and 2,7 m high, while the upper support grating provides 120 ° coverage from the left and starboard side, and the upper grille itself provides 60 °. back and forth, thus providing full 360 ° coverage.
      Quote: gregor6549
      It would be nice to know how the processes of collecting, processing and distributing data received from heterogeneous airborne detection systems, the level of automation of these processes, which ACS are used for this, etc., are organized in Turkey and other NATO countries.

      I already had an article on NATO air defense, but you won’t find any special details. It is known that the exchange of information occurs using the MIDS system. Which is a tactical communications system that integrates various types of information platforms into a common tactical data network. According to the STANAG 5516 standardization agreement, the Link11 and Link 16 protocols are defined as MІDS digital services.
      1. -2
        10 December 2019 10: 32
        Uv. "comrade" Linnik, (sorry, by the way, the gentleman is not yet used to the word, but the comrade has already lost the habit) I read a large number of articles about this radar station, including an old article by a fairly well-known Australian expert Karl Kopp https: //www.ausairpower. net / APA-Wedgetail-Antennas.html for a large number of relevant graphics and photographs
        It also indicates that the radar under consideration provides an all-angle, and not just a side view of airspace.
        However, even a visual comparison of the apertures of the side antenna arrays of the radar with the "misunderstanding" that is the aperture of the forward and backward looking radar antennas raises serious doubts about its ability to detect targets in the front and rear sectors as well as in the side sectors.
        What do you think about this Sergey?
        And a few words about the ACS of the collection and processing of radar data. Indeed, digital data transmission lines play a huge role in these systems, but software-hardware of primary, secondary and tertiary processing and display of real-time radar data at various levels of air defense systems organization play an equally important role. And if digital data transmission lines have long been unified and standardized, then in terms of processing and displaying radar data, such unification and standardization has not yet been observed in either foreign or domestic systems.
        1. -1
          10 December 2019 10: 43
          Quote: gregor6549
          Uv. "comrade" Linnik

          Gregory, you can simply call by name ...
          Quote: gregor6549
          I read a large number of articles about this radar, including a long-standing article by a fairly well-known Australian expert Karl Kopp https://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Wedgetail-Antennas.html, which contains a large number of relevant graphic and photo materials
          It also indicates that the radar under consideration provides an all-angle, and not just a side view of airspace.
          However, even a visual comparison of the apertures of the side antenna arrays of the radar with the "misunderstanding" that is the aperture of the forward and backward looking radar antennas raises serious doubts about its ability to detect targets in the front and rear sectors as well as in the side sectors.
          What do you think about this Sergey?

          As deep as you I did not dig, I fully admit that the possibilities for viewing zones in the front and rear hemispheres are limited. But on the other hand, it makes no sense for the manufacturer to exaggerate the station’s capabilities either. This is primarily an export-oriented product, Israelis and Chinese also offer aircraft of a similar purpose.
          Quote: gregor6549
          And a few words about the ACS of the collection and processing of radar data. Indeed, digital data transmission lines play a huge role in these systems, but software-hardware of primary, secondary and tertiary processing and display of real-time radar data at various levels of air defense systems organization play an equally important role. And if digital data transmission lines have long been unified and standardized, then in terms of processing and displaying radar data, such unification and standardization has not yet been observed in either foreign or domestic systems.

          Who would argue ... request
  7. +2
    9 December 2019 13: 31
    Sergey, thanks, wonderful article. The issue of covering various dead zones remained unclear. AWACS planes are constantly hanging, or is it only during the threatened period?
    1. +2
      9 December 2019 13: 39
      Quote: Rafale
      Sergey, thanks, wonderful article.

      Thank you for your kind words! hi
      Quote: Rafale
      AWACS planes are constantly hanging, or is it only during the threatened period?

      Of course, they don’t hang constantly, it’s expensive, but they patrol regularly. In addition, NATO forces share information with the Turks, and a real-time radar picture comes from American ships in the Mediterranean Sea and AWACS aircraft. In general, the information awareness of Turkish air defense is quite high.
  8. +2
    9 December 2019 17: 24
    Sergey, thank you for the article. Everything is clear and intelligible, although it was possible to open the topic a little more. We will wait for the next part.
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    9 December 2019 19: 05
    According to information published by Raytheon Corporation, a radar operating in the frequency range 8,55-10 GHz is able to fix ballistic targets at a distance over the horizon to 4700 km.

    you gave them a lot. He is still "forward-based" (in this hole, in Kurechik, even more so)

    Kürecik Radar Station "stands" on Shat Tepe hill at 2085 m (6841 ft)(*)
    Even for a "horse" RCS of 10 m ^ 2 and more no further than 1300 km

    calculated RCS for different types of targets in "different" wink performance


    there is one but
    The upper range limit of the radars is due to radar horizon. The targets beyond this
    limit cannot be detected because of the curvature of the earth. The radar is assumed
    For a radar placed 3.5 meters above the ground, Fig. 3.5 shows how horizontal limit is affected by the altitude of the target.

    The upper limit of the range of the radar is due to the horizon of the radar. Goals for this
    the limit cannot be detected due to the curvature of the earth, Radar assumed
    should be placed 3,5 meters above the ground to increase range
    .For a radar located at a height of 3,5 meters above the ground (target height is assumed to be 100 km from the earth), in fig. Figure 31 shows how the horizontal limit depends on the height of the target.

    total we have

    maximum maximum 1300km, in theory
    in reality for AN / TPY-2 (10 GHz)
    Detection Range (km) ICBM = 1070 km, Tracking Range (km) ICBM = 730 km
    this is from him to the target, taking into account the elevation angle
    on the ground (projection on the ground of the distance to the target) it will be 946.0 /531.9 km for ICBM (**)

    taking into account (*) and technical specifications AN / TPY-2 Maximum Horizontal Radar Placement: well, for sure no more than 2000 - 2500km (taking into account the attenuation of Attenuation By Atmospheric Gases), and even that is unlikely

    and where did you get 4700 km? with Globalsecurity.com? They fantasized for the sea, for Japan. He just not enough power
    raytheon did not write this

    Note (**): For ballistic missiles that cannot reach a height of 100 kmrange will decrease
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      10 December 2019 03: 07
      Hello! I'm glad to see you! Didn’t the Crimean bridge have been completed, and you have free time? wink
      Quote: opus
      and where did you get 4700 km? with Globalsecurity.com?

      Indeed, I trust this resource, they usually do not lie much. Although, of course, my cant, especially since I imagined the range of AN / TPY-2. Probably the eyes were "blurred". As an excuse, I can say that I wrote practically "on my knee" (being on duty at the weekend).
      1. -2
        10 December 2019 10: 14
        Quote: Bongo
        Not really

        don't you watch TV?
        Now the most interesting time:
        it remains to knock out honestly earned from one of the main of 12 friends Ocean
        Quote: Bongo
        they usually don’t lie much.

        lied

        Here are its parameters: a 3,5-meter radar, the target of the combat unit, until the LH are separated.
        Detection range up to 3000 km (2700 km), with a target height of 500 km.
        you understand this condition is much more comfortable than in Kurechik (Van Alenna belts are far away, the atmosphere is only 70 km / cos (elevation angle)) - resort
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          10 December 2019 10: 29
          Quote: opus
          don't you watch TV?

          No No.
          Quote: opus
          Now the most interesting time:
          it remains to knock out honestly earned from one of the main of Ocean's 12 friends

          Predictably ... request
          Quote: opus
          lied

          Everyone lies, but they are still less likely than Channel One. wink
          Look, maybe it will be interesting to you, there are still other parts
          https://topwar.ru/164418-sovremennoe-sostojanie-sistemy-rannego-raketnogo-preduprezhdenija-i-protivoraketnoj-oborony-i-sredstv-kontrolja-kosmicheskogo-prostranstva-v-knr.html
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            10 December 2019 11: 49
            Quote: Bongo
            Predictably.

            I feel sorry for the simple electorate, and that, they managed to throw, simple cooks "- breadwinners.
            (90 people * 30 days to feed for "just like that")
            One old woman - the ruble, ten old women - is already a dime ...

            so oligarchs turn out
            Quote: Bongo
            Look, you might be interested, t

            later. I am with Novokuznetsk, I am mastering the word rockhopper intensively, I am struggling with Formalism in the West Siberian Railway. What a hell is it in the east of Russia! Already a mess.
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              10 December 2019 12: 55
              Quote: opus
              Zmoy on the West Siberian railway. What a hell is it in the east of Russia! Already a mess.

              Anton, so you drift east, and you will get to us. And the citizen "For Truth" claims that you are in Israel. lol Who to believe today? smile
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                10 December 2019 13: 31
                Quote: zyablik.olga
                Anton, so you drift east, and you will reach us

                Your time zone is painfully heavy. In order to clear the closet in Vladik when I was in St. Petersburg, I had to get up at 3:00 in the morning.
                I do not want
                Quote: zyablik.olga
                And the citizen "For Truth" claims that you are in Israel.

                he has everything in Israel and all schoolchildren, and all illiterate, a lot of words with "bi" and so on ...
                How to live when every second is preoccupied?

                already used
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                  10 December 2019 14: 01
                  Quote: opus
                  Your time zone is painfully heavy. In order to clear the closet in Vladik when I was in St. Petersburg, I had to get up at 3:00 in the morning.
                  I do not want

                  If you are going to build a bridge on Sakhalin, you have to get used to it. lol
                  Quote: opus
                  he has everything in Israel and all schoolchildren, and all illiterate, a lot of words with "bi" and so on ...

                  This character known as Go-Vasya appeared on the site about a year ago, and has since changed from a dozen accounts. Each time he was banned for rudeness, insults and incitement to national threat.
  10. 0
    10 December 2019 11: 37
    Quote: Sergey Linnik
    The statements of some visitors on some issues are so “masterpiece” that sometimes there is a desire to tell more about this.

    Dear author! Do not write illiterate. The word masterpiece in Russian is not and never was ... Some illiterate people from the Internet began to write the word masterpiece, however, the adverb cannot be formed from a noun masterpiece, so do not slide down to the level of the illiterate ...
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      10 December 2019 12: 29
      Quote: For the truth
      Do not write illiterate.

      I wonder how much you will live under this nickname until you are banned again? what
      1. +1
        10 December 2019 12: 47
        Quote: zyablik.olga
        I wonder how much you will live under this nickname until you are banned again?

        Oh, does it bother you so much? I like to teach many people on radiolocation and peak power in military schools, while patriots are fools ... However, when you start teaching others, they are not patriots (military and others ...), they begin to be offended!
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          10 December 2019 12: 51
          Quote: For the truth
          Oh, does it bother you so much? I like to teach many people on radar and on peak power on VO, patriots are same idiots ...

          I doubt that your moralizing usually ends with insults is interesting to someone. No. Because your reputation is "below the floor." negative
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            10 December 2019 13: 38
            Quote: zyablik.olga (Olga)
            I doubt that your lectures usually end in insults to someone of interest. no Because your reputation is "below the floor".

            What kind of reputation are you talking about? In my opinion, truth is important everywhere.
  11. +2
    10 December 2019 12: 25
    Quote: Sergey Linnik
    Since the second half of the 1960s, Turkey has operated in the frequency range 1,25 to 1,35 GHz. These two-coordinate radars are usually paired with the AN / MPS-14 radio altimeter, and are able to control airspace at ranges up to 270 km.
    .
    Dear author! The maximum range of the radar AN / TPS-44 Dmax = 534,8 km (Rimp = 1 MW), and not 270 km. For example, the radar P-37 D max = 400 km mode
    "Rare-2" (P imp = 780 kW). See the difference in pulse power and range?
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      18 December 2019 06: 45
      Quote: zyablik.olga (Olga)

      Quote: For the truth (For the truth)

      Quote: Sergey Linnik

      Since the second half of the 1960s, Turkey has operated in the frequency range 1,25 to 1,35 GHz. These two-coordinate radars are usually paired with the AN / MPS-14 radio altimeter, and are able to control airspace at ranges up to 270 km.

      Dear author! The maximum range of the AN / TPS-44 radar is Dmax = 534,8 km (Rimp = 1 MW), not 270 km. For example, radar P-37 D max = 400 km "Rare-2" mode (P imp = 780 kW). See the difference in pulse power and range?

      ... Before you teach other radars, ask how much power Turkish radars radiate, and why this is so. And please learn to spell my nickname correctly.

      zyablik.olga (Olga)! I bring you the data from the journal Foreign Military Review:

      Quote: Foreign Military Review
      Three-coordinate radar AN / TPS-43 (Fig. 3) and two-coordinate radar AT / TPS-44 collect airborne data. As noted in the foreign press, they operate in the frequency ranges 2900 - 3100 and 1250 - 1350 MHz and can detect targets at ranges up to 280 and 490 km; the weight of the stations is 1,59 and 1,78 tons, respectively.
      http://www.zvo.su/VVS/avtomatizirovannaya-sistema-upravleniya-takticheskoy-aviaciey.html

      The author of the foreign military review made a mistake of 40 km, and Sergey Linnik almost 2 times - 270 km, it would be correct D = 534,8 km.
      zyablik.olga (Olga)! You and Sergey Linnik are wrong! How so? Again, the patriot (idiot) is right.

      Quote: zyablik.olga (Olga)

      Your problem is that you consider yourself the ultimate "truth". no How old are these radars, do you think that the Turks operate them at maximum power? The article indicates the real range, not the passport for the new radars. The data was taken from the English-language resources describing NATO air defense.

      zyablik.olga (Olga)! It's ugly to try to get out! The maximum radar detection range is determined by the radar operating modes and is always provided during operation. Do not tell me a lie from English-speaking resources, according to your statements ...

      Quote: zyablik.olga (Olga)

      Where did it come from 4700 km the author wrote in the comments.

      I'm waiting for data. Judging by your dialogues on the air defense page, you do not know this, although I could be wrong!
      1. 0
        18 December 2019 20: 57
        Quote: Sergey Linnik US missile defense system. Part 2. March 29, 2016.

        Transportation of the AN / TPY-2 radar is possible by air and sea, as well as in towed form on public roads. At 1000 km warhead detection range and a scanning angle of 10-60 °, this station has a good resolution, sufficient to distinguish the target against the background of fragments of previously destroyed missiles and separated stages. According to Raytheon's advertising information, the AN / TPY-2 radar can be used not only in conjunction with the THAAD system, but also as part of other missile defense systems.

        Quote: Sergey Linnik Turkey's air defense radar: will they ensure the safety of air lines? December 9, 2019.

        The AN / TPY-2 mobile early warning missile radar deployed in Turkey is located at an altitude of 2000 m above sea level, and approximately 700 km from the border with Iran. According to information published by Raytheon Corporation, a radar operating in the frequency range 8,55-10 GHz is capable of fixing ballistic targets above the horizon at a distance of up to 4700 km.

        Dear author - Sergey Linnik! I want to know the truth in your contradictions. What is the true maximum range of the AN / TPY-2 radar?
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    10 December 2019 22: 12
    hi
    Excellent article!
    As always, photo materials and satellite images are perfectly selected!
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    12 December 2019 21: 59
    Very informative review, thanks to the author. As for the supply of S-400, this is only one move in a very long chess game ...
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