US accuses Russian air defense systems of destroying American drone in Libya

An American drone flying over Libyan territory at the end of November was shot down by Russian air defense systems. This statement was made by the commander of the African Command of the US Armed Forces (AFRICOM) Stephen Townsend, reports Reuters.

The AFRICOM command believes that a drone that disappeared in the sky over Libya at the end of November was shot down by Russian air defense systems. However, on the basis of what data such a conclusion was made, AFRICOM refused to explain. Commander Stephen Townsend demanded that the wreckage of the downed apparatus be returned to the American side. He stated that those who opened fire on drone did not know about his belonging to the United States.

They did not know that the unmanned aerial vehicle belonged to the United States at the moment when they opened fire on it. But now they probably know who it belongs to and refuse to return the wreckage. They say they don’t know where they are, but I won’t buy it.

- he said.

In turn, the official representative of the AFRICOM command of the US Armed Forces Christopher Carney blamed the "Russian mercenaries" for the downed drone.

According to US estimates, which were not disclosed previously, the air defense complex firing the drone was controlled by either fighters of the Russian private military company (PMC) or the Libyan National Army (LNA), led by Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar

- says Carney.

Earlier it was reported that the African command of the US Armed Forces lost the American reconnaissance vehicle MQ-9 Reaper in the Libyan capital of Tripoli, 21 November, a day earlier the Italian drone MQ-9A Predator-B was lost there. It was alleged that both drones were shot down by the Russian Pantsir-S1E air defense system, armed with the army of Khalifa Haftar. The complex was previously delivered to Libya from the UAE, who purchased them in Russia.

Comments

[Aliken]

Some kind of kindergarten, it’s necessary to think of it, to demand the destroyed equipment back, by what rules they fight, clowns.

[ltc35]

Maybe they also file a lawsuit in an international court? It would be completely epic.

[Mountain shooter]

And what did the American drone do there - they don’t want to explain?

[maxim947]

Better advertising for our weapons and you can imagine)

[AlexG83]

Yes, not particularly in this case, the target is quite easy - a slow cuttlefish flying in a straight line. Normal advertising for "Pantsir" is the destruction of all sorts of mega-fast and fidgety missiles, like in Syria, for example, where they advertise themselves well. Well, this ... just got to the bottom a little)

[Shurik70]

Commander Stephen Townsend demanded to return the wreckage of the downed device to the American side

Cool.
Imagine that a thief sneaks into someone else's house, is caught by the owner, and, fleeing, loses his passport.
After which he will demand to return the passport to him.

[Charik]

so if you don’t steal something , there is a real case - the guy climbed up to the neighbor above, stole jewelry and lost glasses in the hut, and then the neighbor came, he looks without glasses -drunk stole in prison

[Shurik70]

I live in Kaluga. The cradle of space.
We have thieves of just the Cosmic mind and luck.
Over the past five years, twice in the regional media there have been reports of loss by thieves your passport at the scene of the crime.

[Saxahorse]

Quote: AlexG83

advertising for "Pantsir" is the destruction of all kinds of mega-fast and fidgety missiles, as in Syria, for example, where they advertise themselves well.

In Syria, just the Shell showed itself poorly. Unlike our own TOP-a. It is no coincidence that after the New Year's bombing at the Khmeimim base, it was the TORs that were urgently transferred by air.

But with marketing, Shell is very good. On each post on an advertising post.

[maxim947]

Is this a bad job?))

[PCF]

very characteristic sound from something six-barrel
Is the new Shell, without rockets, well, just like a mattress Vulcan?
PS funny cartoon, apparently from Arm3

[Vol4ara]

Quote: maxim947

Is this a bad job?))

Very good, that's just the American phalanx

[maxim947]

And I believed. The crap came out, to blame.

[sivuch]

Thor appeared in Syria only in April 2018. Before that, they somehow managed.
ZRPK "Pantsir" of the Russian Aerospace Forces intercepted two missiles of the MLRS "Grad" fired by militants in the province of Hama - October 3, 2017

[Saxahorse]

Quote: sivuch

Thor appeared in Syria only in April 2018. Before that, they somehow managed.

Managed badly. With problems and losses.

On December 31, militants of one of the terrorist groups fired mortars at the Khmeimim airbase, killing two soldiers. A week later, ten attack UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicles) again attacked Khmeimim and three more - the logistics point of the Russian Navy in the city of Tartus. The Russian military managed to intercept control of six drones. Seven UAVs were destroyed by Pantsir-S1 anti-aircraft missile systems of Russian air defense units. Nobody was hurt, no damage was done to the objects.

Dmitry Sablin, coordinator of the parliamentary group for relations with the Syrian parliament, told Interfax, citing his own sources, that 31 drones were involved in the raid on Khmeimim and Tartus, not 13.

After the attack on December 31, 1917, photos of aircraft damage appeared on the network, for example, the destroyed Su-24 stabilizer. It immediately became clear that this was never a mortar, but light UAV bombs. By the way, it was after this that smartphones were banned in the army. So as not to be scorched ..

At the same time, it became clear that the Shell against the UAV works very poorly. He does not see them, and even if he sees, he doesn’t get them the first time. This was the reason for the appearance of TORs in Khmeimim and Tartus. Here are the TOPs immediately.

[sivuch]

And is this a link to your own sources?
Those. The carapace does not see, but knocks down - at your own link?

[sivuch]

Only in the period from March 23 to July 6, 2017, the Russian military shot down six unmanned aerial vehicles, four unguided missile shells, a drifting balloon and a small balloon - a total of 12 targets - with a cost of 15 SAMs.
maliciously lie?

[Saxahorse]

Quote: sivuch

maliciously lie?

Did the two dead just eat mushrooms?

that in the raid on Khmeimim and Tartus 31 drones participated, and not 13.

Have you noticed this part of the quote? It turns out that two-thirds of these stupid plywood drones still bombed somewhere. It’s good that the plastic bombs, you won’t break so many ..

[sivuch]

and that 31 - from reliable confidential sources, yes, I believe, I believe

[Saxahorse]

Quote: sivuch

and that 31 - from reliable confidential sources, yes, I believe, I believe

Why confidential? Name of the source just specifically indicated.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Saxahorse

After the attack on December 31, 1917, photos of aircraft damage appeared on the network, for example, the destroyed Su-24 stabilizer.

That's just the author of this stuffing then apologized for being misled.
Because the same board the next day cheerfully rolled around the airfield. Au of the original photo found with a damaged plane in the date was 2012.

[Saxahorse]

Quote: Alexey RA

Because the same board the next day cheerfully rolled around the airfield. Au of the original photo found with a damaged plane in the date was 2012.

I remember, I remember, they refuted it. Especially about 2012 sounds "convincing". Our then videoconferencing in Syria only appeared in September 2015. It looks like Voronezh was bombed again but we didn't notice.

[Saxahorse]

The truth is why we are arguing. I just recalled where the opinion grew that the TOP is more reliable than the Shell in air defense.

[Alexey LK]

Quote: AlexG83

slow cuttlefish flying in a straight line

Yes, but flight altitude is also important. So they could get it!

[Evil543]

No, well, I immediately said that they would blame us, they harnessed us for a long time ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Evil543

No, well, I immediately said that they would blame us, they harnessed us for a long time ...

The trouble is that mattresses are not at all friendly with their feet. After the drone landed, Marshal Haftar apologized to the mattresses, they say - "Sorry guys, they didn't know that this was your stray. The next time you decide to fly, agree with me on your wishlist" (not literally, but something like that) And those on - mattresses took offense at Russia. At the same time, they do not even take into account the fact that the "fly swatter" (true of Russian production) with the help of which the drone was shot down was kindly brought to Haftar from the UAE

[Glory Ponomarev]

To set ultimatums of the United States to this hactor is certainly not handy, if the Americans want to, then these shells will take out two times and his whole army at the same time.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Glory Ponomarev

To set ultimatums of the USA to this havtor is definitely not handy

And he did not issue ultimatums. He "offered" to coordinate their flights with representatives of his armed forces, so as not to fall into confusion. This Haftar is a very cultured person.

Quote: Slava Ponomarev

if the Americans want, then these shells will take out two times and his whole army at the same time.

Yeah. That is why, when the army of Haftar launched an offensive on Tripoli, the Americans boarded the retreating "parachute" and left the danger zone. Well, they don't like situevin mattresses when they can be killed. They prefer to pound the enemy from far away while out of reach. And in order to beat Haftar they have no authority. They have already "established" "democracy" there and are not currently at war with Libya.

[Solieri]

If UAV with the image intensifier approaching the image intensifier F-35, shot down the Shell-C1, then F-35 can be easily shot down by our Russian air defense system...

[Glory Ponomarev]

This UAV is not invisible, it has no stealth coverage.

[Solieri]

Glory Ponomarev (Slavka)! Stealth coatings do not exist in nature. Invisibility does not happen in nature, there are subtle. There are coatings that reduce the image intensifier, and not stealth coatings. Look carefully on UAV form - immediately see the application of the principles of reducing the image intensifier, and there is no information about the use of coverage. However, the principles of stealth dictate the presence of coverage for such UAVs, so they are very likely to have it ...

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Salieri

If UAV with the image intensifier approaching the image intensifier F-35, shot down the Shell-C1, then F-35 can be easily shot down by our Russian air defense system...

Undoubtedly, if the F 35 flies to him about 5 km. I’ll tell you more, if the F 35 will fly to me 20 m and hangs, even I will knock it down, throw a cable and a turf with a tractor

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And what did the American drone do there - they don’t want to explain?

But what for the gendarme should explain something? Blaming and punishing is his task. With such successes, the Russian Federation and the non-existent USSR can be blamed for the death of all those who were killed from AK or SVD.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: bouncyhunter

With such successes, the Russian Federation and the non-existent USSR can be blamed for the death of all those who were killed from AK

So they do just that, the journalists help them. Substitution of concepts in full growth: month was in fact shot down by Russian air defenses ... He told the truth - yes, the system is Russian; he said nonsense - yes, the system did not belong to the Russian Federation. And then he declares that Moscow's increasingly muscular role in the energy-rich nation, where Russian mercenaries are reportedly intervening on behalf of east-based Libya commander Khalifa Haftar in Libya: talk about mercenaries, and automatically accuse the Russian Federation. Moreover, the Russian Federation has old interests there and oh, how striped I want to move. According to such signs, the states simply need to be moved to the Hague Tribunal.
In the same way, the Clintoness commented on the downing of -777 over Dombas. All by template.
Passively, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs fights off, would cooperate with the security forces and introduce Amer mercenaries

[cniza]

With such successes, the Russian Federation and the non-existent USSR can be blamed for the death of all those who were killed from AK or SVD.

They do so ...

[bouncyhunter]

God forbid - finish it. It will turn out to be crap in all respects.

[cniza]

Here is another more interesting one: this UAV is presented to them as an invisibility, how could it be brought down?

[bouncyhunter]

Not so long ago, someone gave an excellent example about the Fu-117.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: cniza

they are presented with their UAVs, like an invisibility, how could it be brought down?

Quote: bouncyhunter

Not so long ago, someone gave an excellent example about the Fu-117.

The guys on earth didn’t know anything ...

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

The guys on earth didn’t know anything ...

Are you talking about anti-aircraft gunners, my friend?

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Are you talking about anti-aircraft gunners, my friend?

Of course: they sat, didn’t touch anyone, suddenly flies, they don’t go here, it’s wet ... and some little things about invisibility, it makes no difference to them. Murphy’s law for air defense: bring down all, counting on earth. Shoot them down, count on the ground ...

[bouncyhunter]

I was not going to touch anyone ...

[Pete mitchell]

If you were sitting at the controls, I think no one would fly there for a long time without permission - everyone would have behaved in a disciplined way. Not you ?

[Vol4ara]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Not so long ago, someone gave an excellent example about the Fu-117.

Do you mean 1 downed plane in several military campaigns?

[bouncyhunter]

There are many things I don't understand in life, buddy. But I understand even less in a hypocritical play called "Politics". I know one thing for sure: queens make their moves without asking for pawns. However, you understand me, I think ...

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: bouncyhunter

I understand even less in the hypocritical play called Politics. I know one thing for sure: queens make their moves without asking for pawns ...

Probably everyone who is not directly involved in this staging, do not really understand how it is possible to gather in one place as much hypocrisy, cynicism, not respect ....
And in a specific action called Libya, state and French politicians demonstrated their “best” aspirations: they do not give a damn about the allies, the right and all other decency rules - they simply ripped off a successful country. And now they will invent the guilty for any reason

[Lelek]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Blaming and punishing is his task

Blame the rocket that shot down the drone? Well, let them make her a-ta-ta by the nozzle (if they find it). There is nothing to climb where you do not need. In fact, Sam should adhere to the commandments of his guru-president A. Lincoln:

[bouncyhunter]

a lion
Sam has not seen the shores for a long time, but I would advise them not just to write down the words of Abraham - knock them on his forehead!
Do not think that I am bloodthirsty: I am the way my parents and the country raised me. And I'm proud that I was born in the USSR.

[Lelek]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Do not think that I'm bloodthirsty

Pavel, I thought, thought, and yet, excuse me, I leave this prerogative for Mrs. Farion and her wards, who bake pies "quilted jacket brains" and drink fruit drink "blood of Donetsk babies". Well, ukronatsikam, essess.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Lelek

Quote: bouncyhunter

Blaming and punishing is his task

Blame the rocket that shot down the drone? Well, let them make her a-ta-ta by the nozzle (if they find it). There is nothing to climb where you do not need. In fact, Sam should adhere to the commandments of his guru-president A. Lincoln:

Phew, it’s good that we didn’t have Lincoln, everything is possible with us. And it would be insulting

[Lopatov]

Well ... They’ve been there for the ninth year overthrowing a bloody tyrant to establish democracy. Very soon, in fifty to sixty years, the first elections will be held.

In short, work for the "birds of the world" is just the sea.

[zlinn]

the elections there were already held in the 12th and 14th years. and indeed the UN Security Council’s mandate to monitor Libyan airspace in establishing a no-fly zone has not been canceled. nak that there are all sorts of completely legitimate fly there. And Medvedev at one time was not against all this badminton

[Lopatov]

Quote: zlinn

the elections there were already held in the 12th and 14th years.

No.
Elections can be made after the adoption of the Constitution. Which exactly from the elections to the Constitutional Assembly in 1914 is still constituted. In March, the sixth year will go.

So at the moment, impostors rule Libya. Sorry, they are approved by the State Department, because they are self-appointed.
However, democracy, as far as I remember, clearly does not provide for this.

[zlinn]

can not agree

[Shelest2000]

And what did the American drone do there - they don’t want to explain?

Democracy infected.

[sniperino]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And what did the American drone do there - they don’t want to explain?

They could easily explain the fight against terrorists, but they won’t, because they are bulls, they shouldn’t have blown themselves up in vain, they carried out unscheduled repairs to the Pentagon ...

[Vlad.by]

And what did the American drone do there - they don’t want to explain? wassat

Like what? Struggled with anti-democracy!
They have a universal answer.
Whatever they do, they do it for the glory of "democracy"

[Hunter 2]

What was that? African Command, led by Stephen Townsen, celebrate some kind of holiday? you need to look at the calendar!
Found!!! Today is International Civil Aviation Day!

[Lopatov]

Quote: Hunter 2

celebrate some holiday? request you need to look at the calendar!

From Thanksgiving can’t move away. 8)))

[PalBor]

And let them serve. In the UAE. And their sanctions, sanctions ...

[knn54]

If there is an AMERICAN drone, then why can not there be Russian air defense?
Cynicism rolls over.

[Sofa expert]

Not a democratic shell landed 2 democratic drones, even an export shell works wonders

[Thrifty]

Yankees, be afraid, breathe more evenly, your drone was shot down by a rare variety of humanitarian-democratic missiles. ...

[Dmitry Donskoy]

And we can cross stitch

[Lord of the Sith]

And what did the Russian air defense tell them in response to the charge?))

[ltc35]

"Well, well, well!" - says the machine gunner
"Well, well, well!" - says the machine gun.

[swnvaleria]

Russian air defense said: come, let's talk.

[poquello]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

And what did the Russian air defense tell them in response to the charge?))

so that they teach geography, they are told that they will shoot down in Syria

[Lord of the Sith]

They are being shot down, in Syria and the Donbass, now in Libya))

[poquello]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

They are being shot down, in Syria and the Donbass, now in Libya))

Duc in Libya, the Libyans, which they harassed our air defense, dreamed of what

[Sayan]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

And what did the Russian air defense tell them in response to the charge?))

Site rules prohibit quoting an answer

[Well done]

That's why they and air defense to bring down all evil spirits. Christopher Carney thought he was in a fairy tale? This is Russian air defense! Let them feel ...

[Fedorov]

With such success, everyone forgive the person killed from Kalash should be reckoned with on the account of the USSR and Russia.
Well, they bought "Armor, learned, now they are lupashat .. It's their business ...

[Vladimir_2U]

Let them show first an invitation, but flying in a strange sky.

[Glory Ponomarev]

And who has an invitation to ask? Both Haftar (LNA Commander) or Mohammed Eve (STA Representative) both consider themselves the legitimate authority and are biting among themselves

[Vladimir_2U]

Muammar naturally, and personally!

[Vladimir61]

Here are the barbarians, they took and killed the "dove of peace" and even outside the hunting season. What to do, Africa sir!

[rocket757]

Someone knocked something, someone said something, someone wrote something? What to become about? Who made claims?
OBS .... there is nothing more to write about?

[Fedor Sokolov]

Better, Townsend will demand from his wife (or husband) who the Yankees will understand, so that he (a) makes a hamburger for him and let him eat and calm down.

[Guards turn]

TULAN "PANTSIER" ANNOUNCED AN AMERICAN UNMANNED ERROR. The MQ-9 Reaper, shot down by the Pantsir-S1E air defense missile defense system, was damaged by the Khalifa Haftar army on November 20 "by mistake". This was reported by The Associated Press with reference to a representative of the Libyan National Army.

Khalifa Haftar’s units took the UAV for Turkish, so they sent the Pantsir-S1E air defense missile system to it. Representatives of the Libyan army, according to the publication, admitted the mistake and contacted the US military to apologize.

[Ramzaj99]

The complex paid off.

[Kosh]

If the Americans have any claims, then they can only present them to their allies from the Emirates, since it was the UAE that deployed their Pantsir-C1 air defense systems and Hawk air defense systems in Libya, and not some "Russian mercenaries."

[awdrgy]

He just flew and carried a couple of small bombs to establish democracy. Who could bring down? -Only an evil Russian

[Vlad5307]

They did not know that the unmanned aerial vehicle belonged to the United States at the moment when they opened fire on it. But now they probably know who it belongs to and refuse to return the wreckage. They say they don’t know where they are, but I won’t buy it.

Uncle wants to get greens for his delirium? So he should turn to the Pentagon, and for espionage flights of his own aircraft will continue to have losses.

[7,62x54]

"If we knew what it is, but we do not know what it is" 

[Sibguest]

The answer of the Libyan boys (forgive me V. Chernomyrdin): firstly, we didn’t shoot them down (drones), and secondly, we won’t give up the wreckage.

[Nikolaevich I]

Sometimes "Americans" appear on VO ... if I could ask them to ask this "command" a question: until what age did the "commander" get into his pants .. or did he never stop ....?

[Rustic i ......]

"According to US estimates, which were not previously disclosed, the air defense complex that fired at the drone was controlled either by the fighters of a Russian private military company (PMC), or by the military of the Libyan National Army (LNA), headed by Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar."
Hee, hee, and who was driving an untouchable drone? That's annoyance, having determined that the drone is American, did not fall in front of him in a bow, but simply shot down. Horror, what a disrespect, exceptional excluded.

[Coconut]

claim back destroyed equipment

Now technology is not destroyed but captured

[cniza]

At the same time, it was argued that both drones were shot down by the Russian Pantsir-S1E air defense missile system, which is in service with the army of Khalifa Haftar. The complex was previously delivered to Libya from the United Arab Emirates, which purchased them in Russia.

And what are you doing over the territory of another state, without its permission.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

In!!! Americans are not involved in the theft of oil in Syria, because the stolen oil is exported to Chinese and Indian fuel trucks !!!

[Zaurbek]

Putin sat in a shell and pressed a button

[Wedmak]

Sue the Shell now ... just keep in mind that he has no lawyers, he will defend himself as he can. ))))

[Captain45]

Commander Stephen Townsend demanded that the wreckage of the downed apparatus be returned to the American side. He stated that those who opened fire on the drone did not know about his US identity.
Prikolnenko, Goering so in the year 1943 to the People's Commissar of the Air Force Novikov: "Herr People's Commissar, return the wreckage of my Messerschmites and Junkers. Bitte, Herr People's Commissar and I ask you nicht Schiessen - these are our planes."

[poquello]

Quote: Captain45

"Herr People's Commissar, return the wreckage of my Messerschmites and Junkers."

Duc after remelting all came to Berlin themselves

[K-50]

An American drone flying over Libyan territory at the end of November was shot down by Russian air defense systems.

and what did they have to wave flowers from below him?
Shot down and shot down, Maxim died and figs with him.
No, I understand, if our air defense drone were shot down over Fashinton, but where is Libya, to which no one called the dos dosniks, and where is Omeriga.

[Berkut24]

I would like to ask - and the last legitimate head of the country, i.e. Gaddafi, allowed to fly over independent Libya. "No? And then what kind of offense?

[Klingon]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Not so long ago, someone gave an excellent example about the Fu-117.

yes, then the Serbs apologized for not being aware that the F-117 was invisible
so the S-125 comes out too old lady did not know

[Klingon]

And where are all the comrades-in-Israel? Che nobody comments, the topic is not interesting? well of course it's not Hets advertise

[Mavrikiy]

They say they don’t know where they are, but I won’t buy it.

The price is final, bidding is not appropriate.

[Lone gunman]

ahhhh ... so what ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

He just fell

[Protos]

Quote: Glory Ponomarev

This UAV is not invisible, it has no stealth coverage.

There is no coverage, but it is 87% radio-transparent carbon fiber!
Also, a pushing screw shaded by stabilizers - almost without the Doppler effect.
A very difficult target for radars

[Charik]

can? air defense systems produced in Russia

[Ros 56]

It’s not good to fly where it’s not supposed to; over the White House or the Pentagon, train to drop bombs.