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A new production of gas turbine engine blades opened in Rybinsk

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A new production of gas turbine engine blades opened in Rybinsk

A new largest production of turbine blades for aviation, marine and industrial gas turbine engines based on PJSC "UEC-Saturn" in Rybinsk. It is reported by the United Engine Corporation (UEC).


The largest production of gas turbine engine blades begins to work in Rybinsk. According to the UEC, the new production will allow annually producing components for more than two thousand aircraft engines, not only Russian but also foreign. At the same time, an innovative technology was introduced - single-crystal casting in ceramic molds according to investment casting. This technology does not require further manual polishing of products.

Production was deployed on an area of ​​20 thousand square meters. meters, installed more than 180 units of modern high-tech equipment. It is planned that in 2020, production volumes reached up to 280 thousand blades per year, and by 2024 - up to 800 thousand.

The turbine blade is one of the most knowledge-intensive and difficult to manufacture components of gas turbine engines for aviation, marine vessels, and energy. Only six countries in the world produce such products. It requires complex calculations in the design and very high precision in manufacturing

- said the first deputy general director of the State Corporation Rostec Vladimir Artyakov.

It is emphasized that the production is certified according to international standards and can work as part of chains to create both Russian and foreign engines.
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  1. We_smart
    We_smart 7 December 2019 13: 24
    +7
    I wonder how many jobs will be occupied in production?
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 7 December 2019 13: 29
      +38
      The number of jobs will clearly increase as production increases. It is important that the production is launched.
      1. private person
        private person 7 December 2019 13: 47
        -25
        Will it not work out as well as with LED lamps? The production is supposedly Russia, but in fact all the insides are China. And why all the "proizvodstvo" and hence the jobs is the Moscow region and St. Petersburg, and the rest of Russia is a forest.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 7 December 2019 13: 54
          +48
          Quote: private person
          jobs this suburbs and Peter

          belay Rybinsk - this is actually not Moscow, Moscow region or St. Petersburg. This is the Yaroslavl region. And you’ve definitely gone too far about the Chinese component in this production: they still cannot normally copy aircraft engines. hi
          1. 210ox
            210ox 7 December 2019 14: 35
            +13
            Pasha, good afternoon. In Rybinsk, it was possible to maintain some Soviet groundwork for the production of gas turbines (for the same aviation) and specialists. Unfortunately, there are few such places.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 7 December 2019 14: 42
              +12
              Hello, Dima! hi In Rybinsk there lives a man whom I consider my brother. Because a lot, a little in the know. wink
              Quote: 210ox
              Unfortunately, there are few such places.

              I share your regret ...
            2. TermNachTer
              TermNachTer 7 December 2019 18: 31
              +2
              Shoveling is complicated. Interestingly, manual polishing is provided, or some other technologies?
              1. Ponchik78
                Ponchik78 7 December 2019 21: 46
                +1
                https://rostec.ru/news/rostekh-otkryl-krupneyshee-v-rossii-proizvodstvo-lopatok-turbin-dlya-dvigateley/ тут подробнее.
                1. TermNachTer
                  TermNachTer 7 December 2019 22: 03
                  +3
                  Interesting enough. I work at the aircraft engine factory, the profession of polisher blades is quite harmful, although quite well paid. But still there are doubts about the cleanliness of the surface.
                  1. Zhelezyakin
                    Zhelezyakin 9 December 2019 10: 31
                    +3
                    What nonsense, friends! Monocrystalline turbine blades have been cast for a long time. This technology is rooted in the 70s. No one polishes turbine blades after melting (at least the aerodynamic feather). Mostly compressor blades are polished. If you go back to the turbine, then only the surfaces of the trees and the side surfaces of the shelves are machined there. And this is never an innovation ...
                    1. TermNachTer
                      TermNachTer 9 December 2019 16: 50
                      0
                      Consulted with knowledgeable people. Polishing is still needed, both compressor and turbine. When applying protective coatings in general - definitely.
                      1. Zhelezyakin
                        Zhelezyakin 10 December 2019 14: 20
                        +1
                        Excuse me, I don’t believe it.
                        First, let's clarify some details:
                        A turbine blade made of a single-crystal heat-resistant alloy, it is usually a blade of highly loaded turbine engines, gas turbine engines not lower than the 4th generation (excuse me for using terms in all the media hacked by our media, but they have not lost their technical significance).
                        So it should be a cooled turbine radar, and then ->
                        That the bourgeoisie, that we polish the turbine blades in the part of the aerodynamic profile, we allow only in case of deviations of the geometry from the originally set (and this is not an ordinary situation, it is almost a marriage where the possibility of improvement is considered separately in each case). For compressor blades, this is not critical, there are no internal cavities and processing is carried out on the line by copying the nominal geometry. But for turbines, on the contrary. Polishing - read the mechanical processing of the profile, will lead to the removal of part of the material, thinning of the walls of the blade and, as a result, to the loss of its bearing capacity.
                        In the case of uncooled turbine blades, polishing is acceptable, because in fact the production technology of such blades from compressor blades differs only in that they are cast from heat resistance, while compressor blades are forged / stamped from titanium or steel. But polishing is also preceded by grinding and dressing operations, and this is due to the fact that significant allowances of material are necessary for the subsequent mechanics (stamping or forging, this is not the most accurate method of obtaining the final geometry, although motorists may not agree with me). But this is not a single crystal or even directed crystallization. This technology is not even from the middle of the last century, but from its beginning.
                        At the moment, I don’t presume to say which specific single-crystal turbine blades are cast in Rybinsk, more precisely, for which engines ... But when I was a design engineer of one of the enterprises directly connected with the plant (2003-2012), they are nothing like that for military engines did, although Ufa coped with this task in Cheers, as I think Salute! But again, I do not see any innovation in this article.
                        I apologize for being verbose!
                        Sincerely ...
                      2. TermNachTer
                        TermNachTer 10 December 2019 19: 54
                        0
                        Sorry, I'm not an engineer. I just know that the blades on TV - 3 - 117, AI - 222, AI - 25 TL, all are polished. Especially those that are then coated with protective coatings.
            3. GUSAR
              GUSAR 7 December 2019 18: 33
              +1
              That's it, some, the bulk of the production simply ceased to exist
          2. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 7 December 2019 14: 35
            +21
            Greetings Pasha hi So you caught a man on the fact that he does not even live in Russia. And there are many of these on the network, especially in YouTube. They seem to care for Russia, and they themselves work in 72 CSOs (Ukraine).
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 7 December 2019 14: 40
              +14
              Hi, hello! hi
              Quote: Sith Lord
              caught a man on the fact that he doesn’t even live in Russia

              I did not set myself such a goal. But I do not like frankly provocative comments, and even denouncing ignorance of the essence of the issue by the commentator.
          3. vovanpain
            vovanpain 7 December 2019 14: 46
            +28
            [/ quote] [quote = bouncyhunter] Rybinsk is actually not Moscow, Moscow Region or St. Petersburg. This is the Yaroslavl region

            Be Healthy Brother! I didn’t know that my Rybinsk was renamed to Moscow and St. Petersburg and “Saturn” on which I have been working since 1995 in the Moscow region ended up. Oh, now let's screw it up !!!! wassat wassat wassat How many times before the bath did he write about the construction of the 140th foundry building. They started working there in the spring, now they only opened it with fanfare.

            in the foreground is the new 140 building, followed by 49 heat-resistant castings, and this is where I work. wink drinks
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 7 December 2019 14: 50
              +10
              And you don’t get sick, Brother! hi drinks
              Quote: vovanpain
              I did not know that my Rybinsk in Moscow and Peter was renamed and "Saturn" on which I have been working in the Moscow region since 1995

              Well, apparently, gaps in education? wassat
              1. vovanpain
                vovanpain 7 December 2019 15: 04
                +23
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                Well, apparently, gaps in education?

                Most likely in geography, Moscow is certainly not so far from us 360 km of everything to it. but Rybinsk has always been in the Yaroslavl region or province. laughing He’s right about the Chinese, we put a Chinese crucible furnace in our area last year, started working on it in February, in March she already started to fool, in June she grunted, in September there was only a Chinese case left in the furnace, everything else is our. wassat
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 7 December 2019 15: 12
                  +12
                  Given that Baranavichy (where I live) is 155 km from Minsk and 205 km from Brest, this does not mean that Baranavichy belongs to the Minsk region, but to Brest. lol
                  As for the Chinese equipment - I'm not very surprised.
                2. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 7 December 2019 21: 50
                  +10
                  Volodya, my respect hi I really wanted to call, but I read it and you look here. So to speak - infa from the scene. Moreover - reliable. good drinks
                  1. vovanpain
                    vovanpain 7 December 2019 22: 54
                    +2
                    So to speak - infa from the scene.

                    Sergey Hello! So an article about hometown and hometown. And I’m waiting for a call.! drinks drinks
            2. g1v2
              g1v2 7 December 2019 15: 31
              +4
              The only question is whether they are going to you from Snezhnoye, who in the DNI to lure people? There, for the Motor Sich engines, just the blades were made. The idea is that the pr-in is unlikely to work, which means that people working in a specialty in the Russian Federation are just the topic. Have not arrived yet? hi
              1. vovanpain
                vovanpain 7 December 2019 20: 12
                +5
                [/ quote] [quote = g1v2] Have not arrived yet?

                R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ hi To be honest, not in the courses, the 140st workshop and the 41nd experimental moved from the old premises to the 722th building, if specialists came from Snezhnoye unequivocally, Ts 41 and 722 are expanding. To us at 49 they will not take the staff is fully equipped. I don't know about the fur workshops. hi
        2. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 13: 59
          -2
          So what? The same Apple manufactures its products in Chinese territory and from Chinese components. And Apple, wait a minute, is one of the most high-tech companies in the world. And in terms of capitalization ahead of the rest. And no one, for some reason, does not ache about this.
          1. Berkut24
            Berkut24 7 December 2019 14: 19
            +19
            And Apple, wait a minute, is one of the most high-tech companies in the world.

            Stop speaking the language of American advertisers and marketers. There is nothing high-tech about Apple products to be distinguished from others. High technologies are breakthrough technologies in physics, chemistry, etc. as it is fashionable to ruin now - on new principles. The type of quantum solutions, the use of newly discovered plasma properties, new approaches to nuclear fission, etc.
            "High-tech companies" are a product of the promotion of securities on the stock exchange. How can you call Apple a high-tech company when their products are a set of components from other companies, combined in one device by unqualified pens of 13-year-old Chinese women? What have they created themselves? The matrix and memory are from Samsung. The microcircuits are also taken from the side. maybe they came up with an advanced process technology for microcircuits? Also no. Operating systems are also written to order
            80 percent of American "high-tech companies" are not by definition.
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 14: 24
              +2
              The concept, the operating system (at least based on FreeBSD), Apple’s ecosystem are their own. What is the difference who makes matrices and strapping for them and with whose hands it is assembled? The logo speaks for itself. Well, it’s also necessary to be able to promote a brand.
              1. UserGun
                UserGun 7 December 2019 17: 15
                -5
                That's right. I can’t wait for Apple to be called Russian development here))) Judging by the clownish tricks of your opponents and their crow, it’s not so long to wait)))
                1. AU Ivanov.
                  AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 17: 35
                  +2
                  The fastest way Apple will be called the Chinese brand. But how - they do it in the Middle Kingdom from their own komplektuhi. Then, apparently, it is worth recognizing some Volkswagen models as Russian. After all, they were made in Kaluga, and with a high degree of localization.
                  1. UserGun
                    UserGun 7 December 2019 21: 13
                    -1
                    Huh! Yes Yes. Yes )))
            2. UserGun
              UserGun 7 December 2019 16: 55
              -7
              Quote: Berkut24
              Stop speaking the language of American advertisers and marketers.


              Oh how !!! ))) And how can you call NPO Saturn a high-tech company, if practically the entire machine park, on which its products are made, is, to put it mildly, not of its production ?! Remove all means of production, starting with computers at the designers' workplaces and ending with the machine tool park, and where will this NPO Saturn be, according to your sophisticated logic in terms of technology? ))) laughing laughing laughing
              1. Berkut24
                Berkut24 7 December 2019 17: 20
                +6
                It doesn't matter what the Saturn engines are based on. What matters is what they create on it. With their pens and their engineers. The Saturnites themselves work on the equipment, they themselves introduce new technical solutions. There is no need to compare household appliances with serious equipment.
                And yes, Apple's ecosystem ... be careful with sects.
                1. UserGun
                  UserGun 7 December 2019 21: 11
                  -1
                  Quote: Berkut24
                  With their pens and their engineers


                  So you, like Kant))) proved that there is a God and immediately proved in another post that there is no God))) Klap, klap !!! This is why I "love" such ovs for their mutually exclusive loud KUKAREKU)))
                  1. Svarog51
                    Svarog51 7 December 2019 21: 57
                    +6
                    And you, therefore, did not read the comments above from the place of the event. Are far away and your loud COOK - is audible? Can you think it’s worth it?
        3. 210ox
          210ox 7 December 2019 14: 32
          +3
          Of course, the equipment will be mostly foreign. Regarding the Moscow region and the Leningrad region (in Moscow itself, the industrial enterprises cried out) - yes, there are a lot of them. In the rest of the country, the question is how the "provincial masters" attract investors. Example-Smolensk region. When it was necessary to interest the investor in the automotive industry, the local king was hunting and his subordinates demanded kickbacks. As a result, the production went to Kaluga. We need to work to attract money.
        4. maidan.izrailovich
          maidan.izrailovich 7 December 2019 14: 44
          +4
          Production would be Russia, but in fact, all the insides of China.

          Judging by the stupidity you voiced, you are not at all in the subject. crying
          What are the "entrails from China" in the shoulder blades?
          1. UserGun
            UserGun 7 December 2019 16: 59
            +1
            Actually, I was at this production, about 5 years ago, on a business trip to launch and set up Akira CNC machines, manufactured in Taiwan (they are often confused with China, although these are completely different states). So your opponent is not so stupid.
        5. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 7 December 2019 17: 44
          +5
          Quote: private person
          in fact, all the insides of China.

          laughing Exactly: the metal, it seems, is domestic, but the crystal lattice in it is Chinese. fellow wassat The trouble is the trouble ...
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 7 December 2019 22: 05
            +8
            Alexander hi Yes, there will be a Chinese lattice, the main thing is that the "suit is sitting", that is, it corresponds to the intended one. good It doesn’t matter, it’s a kick for progress. Well, like flying for penguins. wink
            P.S. Sorry, I recommended you to our colleague, Ivan Stroybat, who is also engaged in bench modeling. Ready to be punished for uncoordinated actions. So I agree.
            1. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 8 December 2019 06: 26
              +2
              Quote: Svarog51
              So I agree.

              That `s all right. Sergei, hi
      2. Orkraider
        Orkraider 7 December 2019 13: 48
        +10
        The fact that production is launched is important

        I support! Very good news, positive. And again, Rostec, by the way. In many places, he is involved.
      3. 4ekist
        4ekist 7 December 2019 14: 16
        0
        Is it worth it to send Russian titanium for export abroad when we are blocked from access to technology?
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 14: 26
          +3
          Will we close the titanium production enterprises and the workers behind the gates?
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 7 December 2019 15: 09
            +3
            Or he can embargo the passenger Boeing and Airbus, oblige all air companies to buy their planes - there will be a demand, and additional jobs. And there is a use for titanium. wink
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 15: 15
              +2
              Where will you find your planes? It makes no sense to revive the production of obsolete types, they are uncompetitive (they were uncompetitive before) New, so far in development. Obliging to buy operators, of course, you can, as well as obliging citizens to buy AvtoVAZ products, but what will be the tariffs for air transportation?
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 7 December 2019 15: 53
                -2
                Ie do you think there is no point in developing new aircraft and their release?
              2. Plantagenet
                Plantagenet 8 December 2019 10: 16
                0
                “And the Government will probably have to make a very difficult decision on this issue, because it’s so impossible next, with such a park. The value of human life is higher than all other considerations, including the support of a national producer. This is obvious, we must support our own. If ours are not able to unwind, we must buy aircraft abroad. But this is a separate topic, I will formulate it, this position, and I will give instructions to the Government. It will be necessary to find money. It should be a great program. ”

                from a speech by Russian President Dmitry Medvedev after the Yak-42 accident September 7, 2011
                PS 44 people died in the crash (36 passengers and 8 crew members).
            2. Storekeeper
              Storekeeper 7 December 2019 18: 05
              0
              There will not be. The late "Transaero", at the huge request of the government, ordered 10 carcasses (204 or 214) in the 8s, they made only three and that's all, more "Aviastar" did not master. Everybody in the world rejects our superjets because of the price and speed of spare parts supply. Boeing or Airbus spare parts run for 12-214 HOURS, our SIX MONTHS if you're lucky. A year ago, one of our companies refused to operate that 10 spare parts are still undergoing repair (YEAR !!!!). The price of spare parts with delivery and customs clearance of them and ours is comparable. The difference is 30-21 tr. Our government REALLY forces our airlines to buy and operate domestic aircraft. Such proposals are put forward which cannot be refused. The state is really trying to support domestic aircraft manufacturers. But alas, it is practically impossible to support what is. We are waiting for MCXNUMX and hope for the best !!!
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 7 December 2019 18: 14
                +2
                Trying poorly. It is necessary not to hand out fish, but fishing rods, and to encourage fishermen and not eaters.
                1. Storekeeper
                  Storekeeper 7 December 2019 18: 26
                  +2
                  The system is so built that you need to plant. The airline does not want to wait half a year for details; pay a roll driver for a month (for bourgeoisie half a day); if you want to fly this month, then rent it! Lease of thousands of 100-300 rubles per day (!!!!!) How much you need to fly into a day to beat off such a lease!
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 7 December 2019 20: 48
                    +2
                    Yes, it’s not necessary to plant, but to shoot like in China.
                    1. Storekeeper
                      Storekeeper 7 December 2019 20: 59
                      +2
                      I agree one hundred percent
          2. 4ekist
            4ekist 7 December 2019 15: 38
            0
            And these are complaints to our business and management, if our economy is focused on the export of resources and raw materials.
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 15: 57
              +4
              I’ll tell you a little secret: we have never produced competitive civil aircraft since the late 60s. So, do not be surprised that we have neither a school, nor a design culture for modern civil aircraft.
              1. 4ekist
                4ekist 7 December 2019 15: 59
                -1
                I agree, even paint the finished plane is not able.
                1. Storekeeper
                  Storekeeper 7 December 2019 18: 17
                  +1
                  In a state of just money and time they ask a lot, it’s faster and more profitable to fly there and do everything!
              2. Storekeeper
                Storekeeper 7 December 2019 18: 15
                +1
                In terms of quality and reliability, our aircraft are no worse than theirs. Our "oak", not killed and more "protection from the fool"! The pilots who flew on ours and now transferred to Boeings and airbuses say that their technique is more comfortable on ours. Techies say the same thing.
                1. AU Ivanov.
                  AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 18: 43
                  +4
                  For reliability head to head. In terms of fuel consumption and, accordingly, range and payload, they lagged far behind. Avionics are more primitive, therefore 3-4 member crew. Although, as a former pilot, analog dial gauges - "alarm clocks" are more familiar to me than a "glass cockpit"
                  1. Storekeeper
                    Storekeeper 7 December 2019 18: 51
                    +1
                    I won’t argue about fuel. You’re right for 100℅. And the arrows and they have enough on the aircraft 70, 80 and 90 years of production. On new versions, they have almost no arrows. But carcasses are a product of the 80s of the 20th century. So not much behind. Many of our elements and their visually differ only in the inscriptions we have Russian, they have English.
              3. Flatter
                Flatter 7 December 2019 23: 04
                0
                Not because they couldn’t, but because they didn’t enter the common market. And barter was exchanged with the developing countries of Africa and Asia. The West was against the USSR entering the common market.
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      5. Botanologist
        Botanologist 7 December 2019 22: 31
        0
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        The number of jobs will clearly increase as production increases.


        300 people
    2. Bar2
      Bar2 7 December 2019 13: 36
      +6
      the stool had a whirlwind career, then he made stools, then the minister of defense, he just stepped in, and now look at the airplanes he is doing. Where else to put him?
      1. pexotinec
        pexotinec 7 December 2019 13: 41
        +4
        He is also married to a criminal laughing
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 7 December 2019 13: 59
          0
          Quote: pexotinec
          He is also married to a criminal

          She just covered him. Approximately as the wife of the Decembrist in 1825.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 7 December 2019 13: 45
        +17
        Yes, the presence of Serdyukov and Artyakov at the opening is alarming. Artyakov first killed AvtoVAZ, then the entire Samara region, when he was the governor. Although Titov was a thief, money remained in the region, and Artyakov exported everything to Moscow.
        Another cut, not otherwise. I do not believe that these people can create something, even kill. request
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 7 December 2019 14: 01
          +1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          I do not believe that these people can create something, even kill.

          Let's paraphrase the adage "Born to saw, cannot create."
        2. 4ekist
          4ekist 7 December 2019 15: 21
          +2
          Yes, the power vertical is built on conscience.
        3. faterdom
          faterdom 7 December 2019 17: 22
          +3
          Sew up Serdyukov's pockets and demagnetize his fingers - and you can, under the supervision of your elders, be allowed to attend special events. After all, "should he"? "Somewhere to work?"
      3. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 13: 46
        +2
        If Taburetkin will carry out the same reform in the aviation industry as in the Moscow Region, he will not eat his bread for nothing. Even with black caviar.
        1. Bar2
          Bar2 7 December 2019 13: 50
          0
          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          If Taburetkin will carry out the same reform in the aviation industry as in the Moscow Region, he will not eat his bread for nothing. Even with black caviar.


          one hundred percent put it there not so that our aviation industry would flourish, but just the opposite, in order to ditch it, that’s exactly what he does well.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 13: 56
            -1
            However, he did not ditch the army. Shoigu has already come at all ready. And he will not destroy the aircraft industry, but will clean it up.
            1. Bar2
              Bar2 7 December 2019 13: 58
              +4
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              However, he did not ditch the army. Shoigu has already come at all ready. And he will not destroy the aircraft industry, but will clean it up.


              how can he "prepare" something if he is a thief?
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 14: 01
                0
                It does not interfere. No one will penniless powerful enemies for himself.
              2. Tiksi-3
                Tiksi-3 7 December 2019 15: 02
                +1
                Quote: Bar2
                how can he "prepare" something if he is a thief?

                is he already in prison? ... no? .... then he is not a thief, as a thief is sitting! "!!!
            2. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 7 December 2019 14: 03
              +2
              Didn’t ditch the army ??? belay He in her future made three buckets. How many military universities have been closed, you will count?
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 14: 05
                0
                Most importantly, he severed all stable ties in the Defense Ministry and General Staff, without which army reform would not have been possible.
                1. Tiksi-3
                  Tiksi-3 7 December 2019 15: 03
                  +1
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  Most importantly, he broke all stable ties in the Moscow Region and the General Staff,

                  he separated flies from cutlets .... I translate .... pushed red stripes (general) from the budget allocated
                2. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 7 December 2019 15: 04
                  0
                  Gorbachev also destroyed the system at first, but it didn’t work out with the construction of a new one.
                  1. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 15: 07
                    0
                    It did not work out, and could not work out, because after the Gorbachev the Communists came to power again, only under a different sign.
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 7 December 2019 15: 44
                      0
                      So Putin is a communist ??! belay
                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 7 December 2019 15: 52
                        -2
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        So Putin is a communist ??!

                        Do not rock the yachts !!! Pynapuhe is my president! good
                      2. Svarog51
                        Svarog51 7 December 2019 22: 10
                        +11
                        Korean, or what? How many dogs did you eat?
                      3. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 7 December 2019 23: 08
                        -4
                        Just the Pied Piper will come to you including
                      4. AU Ivanov.
                        AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 15: 54
                        0
                        And who is he? Member of the CPSU since 1974, joined it as a student. And he didn’t leave the party. As long as the shell-shocked communist ideology is in power, we will not see anything good. Another thing is that GDP, at the moment, there is no replacement and is not expected.
                      5. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 7 December 2019 15: 58
                        -1
                        You know, five or six years ago, I would agree with you. But now I do not agree, because every year this fraternity harms the country more and more. And the only way out now is a rollback to the red idea, because no one now offers anything sane, except for the Communists. Grudinin, Platoshkin.
                      6. AU Ivanov.
                        AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 16: 04
                        +1
                        I’m afraid that the country will not stand another pullback. Socialists - wherever it goes, but we don’t have them. Like all without halftones: either liberals or communists. And I would like a middle ground.
                      7. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 7 December 2019 16: 05
                        +2
                        Grudinin did not offer to change the system. wink
                      8. krillon
                        krillon 7 December 2019 20: 26
                        -2
                        There are few real violent ones, and there are no leaders ... There was one, they called him Nemtsov, Navalny was far from him.
            3. 4ekist
              4ekist 7 December 2019 15: 24
              +1
              And what do you call everything ready? I do not see point blank.
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 7 December 2019 14: 02
            -2
            Quote: Bar2
            one hundred percent put it there not so that our aviation industry would flourish, but just the opposite

            "Who orders the tune, he dances with the bride."
          3. tarakan
            tarakan 7 December 2019 16: 07
            0
            He ditched the army ?????
        2. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 7 December 2019 14: 09
          +3
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          If Taburetkin will carry out the same reform in the aviation industry as in the Moscow Region, he will not eat his bread for nothing. Even with black caviar.

          Only at your expense. I did not subscribe to pay for his food.
      4. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 December 2019 13: 57
        0
        Quote: Bar2
        Where else to put it?

        Soon the vice premier will be.
        1. Bar2
          Bar2 7 December 2019 14: 00
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Bar2
          Where else to put it?

          Soon the vice premier will be.


          what to say? the guarantor is hello.
        2. 4ekist
          4ekist 7 December 2019 15: 27
          0
          I won’t be surprised.
      5. 4ekist
        4ekist 7 December 2019 15: 15
        0
        Helicopters, my dear.
      6. tarakan
        tarakan 7 December 2019 16: 03
        +1
        Taburetkin brought the military-industrial complex to a new level, but with tough measures, but when all the means are pulled out of the swamp.
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 7 December 2019 13: 44
      +1
      Person 200 - 250.
      1. Genry
        Genry 7 December 2019 14: 43
        +1
        Quote: Vadim237
        Person 200 - 250.

        Original news:
        The new workshop will provide jobs for 300 people.

        https://rostec.ru/news/rostekh-otkryl-krupneyshee-v-rossii-proizvodstvo-lopatok-turbin-dlya-dvigateley/
    4. Piramidon
      Piramidon 7 December 2019 13: 50
      +5
      Quote: We_Smart
      I wonder how many jobs will be occupied in production?

      The manufacture of such blades is, as a rule, highly automated production, so you can not count on a large number of jobs. hi
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 7 December 2019 14: 06
        +2
        Quote: Piramidon
        and a large number of jobs do not have to count

        Yes, but if such a volume, then subsequent productions can increase the number of their employees (innovative production will make it possible to produce components for more than 2 thousand aircraft engines annually) + new productions - news from the same Rybinsk about the production of a high-power gas turbine GTE -110M in 2020 - "The production site and the production itself are now ready to be mass-produced" - Deputy General Director of the Rostec State Corporation Vladimir Artyakov. Let's hope that this time all tests will be successful.
    5. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 7 December 2019 13: 53
      +5
      180 pieces of equipment, 3 shifts plus a repair team. Well, I think the person is 700-800.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 December 2019 14: 04
        -4
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        180 pieces of equipment, 3 shifts plus a repair team. Well, I think the person is 700-800.

        And about 200 manager journalists.
    6. knn54
      knn54 7 December 2019 13: 54
      +9
      The workshop will provide places for 300 people.
      Coma domestic consumers readiness to conclude a contract for 10 years, said the French-Safran Aircraft Engines ...
    7. maidan.izrailovich
      maidan.izrailovich 7 December 2019 14: 46
      -4
      . how many jobs .....?

      In this topic, the question is stupid. crying
      Such production is not created because of jobs. They are necessary to strengthen the country's defense.
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 7 December 2019 15: 20
        +4
        Quote: maidan.izrailovich
        In this topic, the question is stupid.

        Why is it stupid? Minor, but not stupid.
    8. opus
      opus 7 December 2019 15: 12
      +3
      Quote: We_Smart
      I wonder how many jobs will be occupied in production?


      The new workshop will provide jobs 300 people
    9. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 7 December 2019 15: 19
      0
      Quote: We_Smart
      I wonder how many jobs will be occupied in production?

      I do not think that a lot, even on the scale of the city of Rybinsk. = 180 units of modern = this is somewhere around 180 workers and plus a couple of hundred engineers and employees. wassat
    10. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 7 December 2019 21: 14
      0
      Quote: We_Smart
      I wonder how many jobs will be occupied in production?
      Put (-) for a clever question. It is clear that there will not be many jobs. 180 x4 = 720 people of machine workers with the most hard work + adjusters-repairmen + technologists, totaling 1000 people, but really 500. The most important thing is the creation of a competitive production. Throw Siemens off your neck.
      The turbine blade is one of the most knowledge-intensive and difficult to manufacture components of gas turbine engines for aviation, marine vessels, and energy. Only six countries in the world produce such products.
    11. Zhelezyakin
      Zhelezyakin 9 December 2019 10: 12
      +1
      Another thing is interesting, from which pineapple, whose technology has suddenly been called innovative for more than 20 years?
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 7 December 2019 13: 29
    +1
    What needs to be opened .... but there are enterprises that are closing down.
    Everything is ambiguous.
    1. Pavel57
      Pavel57 8 December 2019 10: 33
      0
      Everything is ambiguous ... this is from the daughter of an officer.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 8 December 2019 11: 45
        +1
        From the "officer's daughter" everything is bad and even worse.
        It is ambiguous from the one who knows .... a lot of things he knows and knows.
        When a new business opens, it’s good ... if we had it everywhere! But it is not so, unequal, ambiguous.
  3. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 7 December 2019 13: 33
    -4
    Who are the investors? Not without Euro-Chinese partners?
    1. GKS 2111
      GKS 2111 7 December 2019 13: 45
      +3
      They managed. Rostech, 3 lard. Ruble, of course, and 300 jobs ..
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 December 2019 14: 05
      -4
      Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
      Who are the investors?

      Oh, look at the root!
  4. mlad
    mlad 7 December 2019 13: 51
    +3
    In the DNI there is the city of Snezhnoye where there is just a factory for the production of blades, is there silence about it, does it work, or is it already in Rybinsk?
  5. Sayan
    Sayan 7 December 2019 14: 01
    +5
    Another answer to all the scouts
  6. Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 7 December 2019 14: 13
    +2
    Seeing Serdyukov there, you are immediately waiting for a dirty trick ..
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 7 December 2019 14: 28
      0
      Therefore, our army is a solid catch. Not like in the 90s.
      1. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 7 December 2019 15: 04
        +1
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        trick.

        catch - underwater hunter !!
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 7 December 2019 14: 32
      +12
      Quote: Alexey from Perm
      Seeing Serdyukov there, you are immediately waiting for a dirty trick.

      Yeah ... then Shoigu came, and in a couple of years everything went up like that! And no one knows who the military mafia "cleared"? So that Kozhugetovich was easier. Well, there are no simple explanations there! wassat
  7. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 7 December 2019 14: 44
    -2
    I saw Corporal Serdyukov in the photo and the whole mood disappeared from the good news!
  8. Arthur K
    Arthur K 7 December 2019 14: 46
    +3
    You know, I am civilian personnel of the Armed Forces, and I will say that with the "mebelshik" my salary was 2 times higher (due to the bonus). But now only old people and young people remain who need 1 or 2 years of experience.
  9. Svetlana
    Svetlana 7 December 2019 14: 53
    +2
    Quote: We_Smart
    I wonder how many jobs will be occupied in production?

    If you were REALLY interested, then you would have hammered this question into a search engine.
    300 new jobs, he would answer.
  10. opus
    opus 7 December 2019 15: 11
    +5
    Rostec State Corporation Aviation Cluster Industrial Director Anatoly Serdyukov

    what an honest and open face of Anatoly Eduardovich. I would give him a loan, to be honest
    By 2024, the center’s income from this type of production is forecasted to be at least 5 billion rubles per year
  11. georggy
    georggy 7 December 2019 15: 20
    +1
    And in Soviet time they were delivered from a nearby galaxy? Have come.
    Opening.
  12. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 7 December 2019 15: 23
    +1
    Waited for the end. smile
    At the same time, production accuracy increases by 30%, the cost of blades is reduced by 50%, and labor costs are reduced by 40%. The project, without exaggeration, takes Russian engine building to a new level and allows it to claim a leading position in this high-tech segment, ”commented Vladimir Artyakov, First Deputy General Director of Rostec State Corporation.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 7 December 2019 15: 51
      +2
      Oh, you would listen to what he promised us in the Samara region! laughing
  13. Rzzz
    Rzzz 7 December 2019 15: 27
    +1
    I wonder if in the old fashion they will do separate shoulder blades, or newfangled shine?
  14. Mentat
    Mentat 7 December 2019 15: 58
    -2
    Quote: private person
    Will it not work out as well as with LED lamps? The production is supposedly Russia, but in fact all the insides are China. And why all the "proizvodstvo" and hence the jobs is the Moscow region and St. Petersburg, and the rest of Russia is a forest.

    Another opened account, you need to understand ...
    Take note.
  15. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 7 December 2019 16: 35
    -2
    Quote: 210ox
    Unfortunately, there are few such places.

    There should not be many such places. This is not to grow potatoes in the country. Let it be one, but number 1 in its field.
  16. steelmaker
    steelmaker 7 December 2019 16: 57
    -4
    That's when the products are released, then we will rejoice. And in the photo Serdyukov is very pleased, is it not good?
  17. Mentat
    Mentat 7 December 2019 22: 17
    0
    Quote: Mentat
    Quote: private person
    Will it not work out as well as with LED lamps? The production is supposedly Russia, but in fact all the insides are China. And why all the "proizvodstvo" and hence the jobs is the Moscow region and St. Petersburg, and the rest of Russia is a forest.

    Another opened account, you need to understand ...
    Take note.

    Well, have some fun. You can see a mile away from the scribble what you are and why you write it: selective comments for raising the rating on pop music, and then the standard set about Syria, S-400 Turks are unhappy, ratings are falling, pensions, “some oil pipelines to the West, they’re not building anything in Russia. ”

    You slept, “dear,” for a long time and in full.
  18. notingem
    notingem 8 December 2019 00: 38
    0
    Production is good. Confuse only the faces in the photo
    1. Pavel57
      Pavel57 8 December 2019 10: 29
      0
      If the result is, then what's the difference, what kind of person.
  19. Protos
    Protos 8 December 2019 01: 18
    0
    Suddenly, really laughing
    Prior to this, production was located in Lugansk ...
  20. zsdk
    zsdk 8 December 2019 05: 52
    -1
    And why was it necessary to destroy the turbine blade factory in St. Petersburg?
    1. Pavel57
      Pavel57 8 December 2019 10: 28
      0
      Some destroyed, others restore.
  21. Pavel57
    Pavel57 8 December 2019 10: 24
    0
    Blades for express, SNECME?
  22. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 8 December 2019 12: 42
    0
    I am not a specialist in the manufacture of turbine blades. But I have questions. In the article (source) they write that the tolerances on the shape of the scapula are at the level of 0,05 mm.
    Perhaps this is not enough, accuracy is needed much more severe. Further. The big question is how to understand monocrystalline casting? Crystals of this shape, the size of alloys consisting of dozens of components do not exist. Further. The working conditions of the blades provide for the highest coincidence of the center of gravity, mass, and almost zero imbalance of thousands of blades assembled into one turbocharger. That provides for additional mechanical underworking of each blade.
    Further. No injection operations give the surface cleanliness required for this product.
    The article is saturated with the desire to conduct PR activities, and does not contain technically sound truth.
    I would like to have good specialists connected not only with a pen, but also with knowledge of the subject of the description to the creation of such articles.
  23. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 8 December 2019 12: 50
    0
    Quote: zsdk
    And why was it necessary to destroy the turbine blade factory in St. Petersburg?

    Any production in THIS ANCIENT CITY strangles the city and the production itself. There is no where to develop. You can’t go around. Foundry, no matter how clean it is, is crap. It’s absolutely right that these types of works are being taken out of the museum city. Have TAKEN territories free from housing, and crowded in lockers.
  24. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 8 December 2019 12: 54
    -1
    Quote: Lena Petrova
    Quote: 210ox
    Unfortunately, there are few such places.

    There should not be many such places. This is not to grow potatoes in the country. Let it be one, but number 1 in its field.

    There should not be many such and similar places, but enough. And these problems are beyond our competence.
  25. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 8 December 2019 13: 03
    0
    Quote: Alexey from Perm
    Seeing Serdyukov there, you are immediately waiting for a dirty trick ..

    This is from not enough information. A time to already know.

    The Soviet Army totaled up to 5 million people. With the collapse of the USSR, such a number, of course, would be too redundant.
    A tremendous amount of unnecessary property.
    House officers. Hospitals. Stadiums. Airfields. Military towns, warehouses, training grounds. Barracks. (has not yet touched the weapons). And finally, military iron. Keep it all and bear the costs? Or free yourself from all that is not needed?
    This accountant was set for this task. Which was done by him. But HOW it is done, we will not know.
    But judging by the fact that he remains in the President’s cage, the GDP considers his work to be successful.
    Calm down and don't gurgle.
  26. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 8 December 2019 13: 19
    +1
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Quote: We_Smart
    I wonder how many jobs will be occupied in production?
    Put (-) for a clever question. It is clear that there will not be many jobs. 180 x4 = 720 people of machine workers with the most hard work + adjusters-repairmen + technologists, totaling 1000 people, but really 500. The most important thing is the creation of a competitive production. Throw Siemens off your neck.
    The turbine blade is one of the most knowledge-intensive and difficult to manufacture components of gas turbine engines for aviation, marine vessels, and energy. Only six countries in the world produce such products.

    No matter how accurate your calculations, you still do not take into account the MAIN. Any production is a chain. Like a stream, or a river. Along with the normal channel, there are narrownesses. One such narrowness is production, the most accurate, and requiring precision equipment, metallurgy, and the rest of the technology. This is the production of blades. By expanding this narrowness, a stream opens. And these 300 or 1000 people allow tens of thousands to work.
  27. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 8 December 2019 17: 13
    0
    Quote: private person
    Will it not work out as well as with LED lamps? The production is supposedly Russia, but in fact all the insides are China. And why all the "proizvodstvo" and hence the jobs is the Moscow region and St. Petersburg, and the rest of Russia is a forest.

    What do you prefer - to earn money on "the extraction of oil, uranium, gas, diamonds, coal and everything else?" Muscovites and residents of St. Petersburg, basically on this and bash. "BLAGODARYA" taxation procedure is not at the place of work, but at the place of company registration. Plus the benefits of the accursed Yeltsin, who gave preferences to these towns, very needy and almost starving. True, Yekaterinburg has not forgotten either. Let them plow, at least with screwdrivers, collecting from the Chinese things the whole country needs.
  28. Dedok
    Dedok 9 December 2019 08: 09
    +1
    And the faces (pictured) are still the same.
  29. mikeinside
    mikeinside 9 December 2019 09: 03
    0
    Quote: AS Ivanov.
    . And I would like a middle ground.

    There is a middle ground, called Igor Ivanovich Strelkov .. and against the liberals of the Westerners and against today's mess.
    https://m.vk.com/igoristrelkov
  30. mikeinside
    mikeinside 9 December 2019 09: 12
    0
    Quote: Vkd dvk
    Further. No injection operations give the surface cleanliness required for this product.
    The article is saturated with the desire to conduct PR activities, and does not contain technically sound truth.

    "Balabolism" is now part of the conversation between our officials and the media, and the main thing is to say the phrase "has no analogues" wassat