Czech Republic buys Israeli radars to replace "obsolete" Russian

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The Israeli Ministry of Defense signed an agreement with its Czech counterparts on the sale to Prague of the radar systems used in the Iron Dome missile defense system, Singapore-based Channel NewsAsia (CNA) reports.

The source notes that the radars will be integrated into the Czech air defense system, which will use its own missile launchers. Also, radars will interact with NATO systems. The transaction price is about 125 million dollars. Delivery of the complex to the buyer is expected in 2021-2023 years.



Czech Defense Minister Lubomir Metnar said the acquisition of an Israeli radar was one of the “key modernization projects” of his country's armed forces. He also said the deal would help launch "a process to end our dependence on outdated Russian (Soviet) equipment."

The Iron Dome system was developed by the Israeli company Rafael Advanced Defense Systems with American funding. It is designed to intercept missiles fired from a distance of four to seventy kilometers. The Israeli Air Force has been exploiting it since the 2011 of the year, stating that it has successfully resisted attacks from the Gaza Strip and Syria.
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  1. -4
    6 December 2019 16: 23
    The Iron Dome system was developed by the Israeli company Rafael Advanced Defense Systems. It is designed to intercept missiles fired from a distance of four to seventy kilometers. The Israeli Air Force has been operating it since 2011, claiming it has successfully countered attacks from the Gaza Strip and Syria.

    Hungarians warned Czechs about migrants: "Don't let them in, otherwise you will get the second Gaza Strip."
    1. +5
      6 December 2019 17: 01
      In the Czech Republic, migrants from the Middle East are not particularly. Only Russians and Ukrainians
      1. +1
        6 December 2019 17: 21
        Yes, I think they are probably everywhere in the European Union
        1. +9
          6 December 2019 18: 07
          Maybe to replace the "Soviet" need to write?
        2. 0
          6 December 2019 18: 49
          When was the last time you were in the European Union?
        3. +6
          6 December 2019 20: 25
          It is forbidden to build mosques in the Czech Republic. Very smart. Therefore, they do not really go there. One of the most sensible countries in Europe, by today's times.
          1. +1
            6 December 2019 20: 41
            Israeli Wunderwaffe inferior Russian SAM "Pantsir-S1", "Buk-M3" according to one of the main parameters - the probability of hitting a target with the Iron Dome p = 0,9 (1 target - 2 missiles), for our complexes this indicator is p = 0,9999 (1 target - 1 missile). The speed of the Tamir Iron Dome anti-aircraft missile is V = 300 m / s, the maximum speed of the 57E6-E "Pantsir-S1" anti-aircraft missile is V = 1300 m / s, the maximum speed of the 9M317M "Buk-M3" anti-aircraft missile is V = 1550 m / s. On defeat faster goals and catch-upIron dome loses again Russian air defense systems: Pantsiru-S1 and Buk-M3.
            Regarding the old Soviet complexes - complexes are not indicated in the article. In view of its elemental base (EEC), technical solutions and parameters, Soviet complexes are inferior to the Iron Dome, nothing can be done, everything flows (time) - everything changes and develops!
            1. +2
              6 December 2019 21: 01
              But already on the approach of the Pantsir-SM air defense missile system with a hypersonic anti-aircraft missile, then all targets, including hypersonic ones, will not be good at meeting. The range of the "Pantsir-SM" has been increased to 40 km.
              1. +4
                6 December 2019 22: 38
                Quote: Salieri
                in our complexes this indicator is p = 0,9999 (1 target - 1 rocket)

                few decimal places ...))) I have already explained with your "colleague", he had such an indicator even more than one wassat Do not judge only by "paper" parameters.
                1. -1
                  7 December 2019 02: 04
                  Quote: Tamer

                  few decimal places ...))) I have already explained with your "colleague", he had such an indicator even more than one. Do not judge only by "paper" parameters.

                  Tamer (Timur), enough decimal places, if you were an expert, you would not ask such a stupid question ... P = 0,9999, 1 target - 1 missile. Learn probability theory in advanced mathematics. According to the "paper" parameters, only experts from the United States and Israel evaluate them in order to accept their lies as dominant ...
                  1. +1
                    7 December 2019 16: 07
                    Quote: Salieri
                    if you were a specialist, you wouldn’t ask such a stupid question ... P = 0,9999, 1 target - 1 missile. Learn probability theory in advanced mathematics. According to the "paper" parameters, only experts from the United States and Israel evaluate their lies in order to accept their lies as dominant ...

                    Have you personally exploited at least one complex, dear probability theorist of higher mathematics? At least on tests))) And the light did not converge on Israeli and American specialists - domestic "specialists" also do not sleep, they also accept something as something)) Where did you get 0.9999 from?
                  2. +1
                    7 December 2019 17: 57
                    how interesting wikipedia is of course a very bad source. but no one corrected him, just as he did not refute the link to a Russian source. and he gives 0.7 / or do you know much more?
            2. 0
              7 December 2019 09: 37
              Quote: Salieri
              Regarding the old Soviet kompleks
              Nowhere did they go away, all the complexes were safely passed on to the growing generation.
      2. -1
        6 December 2019 18: 02
        They are only not allowed into Hungary. And so, all over Geyrope, "sho mud".
        1. +3
          6 December 2019 18: 49
          I repeat. When was the last time you were in Europe?
          1. +3
            7 December 2019 00: 05
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            I repeat.

            Gunner Rabinovich, you are more severe than ever!
            A bald doorman lights candles! (with)


          2. +2
            7 December 2019 01: 04
            I have a daughter, the last time I was in Paris seven years ago (even before the massive influx of migrants). According to her, for two days in Paris, she did not see a single white man. Of course he’s joking, but as they say, in every joke ....
            1. -2
              7 December 2019 08: 19
              I advise your daughter to visit Vienna, Krakow, Strasbourg, Lille ... And then you can talk about the dominance of migrants
            2. +5
              7 December 2019 16: 00
              Quote: orionvitt
              According to her, for two days in Paris, she did not see a single white man.

              to find out this fact, you can just look at the national football storage team !! wink wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
          3. +4
            7 December 2019 15: 59
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            I repeat. When was the last time you were in Europe?

            recourse Do you have a point in the European Union where you are sitting, and every migrant comes to you and reports ???? wassat wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
            1. -1
              7 December 2019 16: 03
              And here in Israel people quite travel abroad.
              1. +4
                7 December 2019 16: 45
                Quote: Zeev Zeev
                And here in Israel people quite travel abroad.

                I dare to assure you that in Russia there are much more people traveling abroad !!! wink Do you sincerely believe that traveling to the country and living there are one and the same ?? !!! wassat laughing laughing
                1. -1
                  7 December 2019 18: 55
                  I don’t think so. But when a person walks the streets of Rotterdam for several days, he can get some idea of ​​the population.
                  1. +4
                    8 December 2019 00: 08
                    Quote: Zeev Zeev
                    I don’t think so. But when a person walks the streets of Rotterdam for several days, he can get some idea of ​​the population.

                    that's just the point, that some !!! wassat wassat wink
  2. -24
    6 December 2019 16: 25
    At least Israeli systems have been tested by battle. Similar Russian systems have nothing to brag about in this regard. So the decision is quite rational.
    1. +7
      6 December 2019 16: 29
      Syria not? do you think everyone is telling you? there almost every day attempts to test our air defense systems
      1. -18
        6 December 2019 16: 33
        The argument "they don't tell you everything" has the same value as "The ways of the Lord are inscrutable." That is, zero.

        I focus on reliable facts. There are facts of the combat use of Israeli air defense systems. There are no facts of using similar Russian systems.
        1. +2
          6 December 2019 17: 29
          Quote: Kirill Dou
          I focus on reliable facts. There are facts of the combat use of Israeli air defense systems. There are no facts of using similar Russian systems.

          If the air defense does not fire, this does not mean that the system is not working and there are no facts of use. It's just not rockets that are being met, but fighters. And quite successfully we direct the flyers to inconspicuous targets. Shouts of "unprofessional interception" are constantly heard. For you, this is not a fact of combat use?
          By the way, the Carapace solves the same tasks as the Iron Dome, and combat statistics are at least no worse.
          And then, the article is about radars. I suspect that in the Czech Republic there are two-dimensional radars: P-12, P-18 and P-15. The last stealth does not see point blank
          1. +11
            6 December 2019 17: 56
            But the P-18 meter range sees stealth wonderful
            1. 0
              6 December 2019 18: 03
              Quote: Bulgarian
              But the P-18 meter range sees stealth wonderful

              And my P-12 sees perfectly. Only they are two-dimensional. It’s very inconvenient to determine the height. Most often you use a calculator, which is in the head according to the mark. For a pampered Czech mind, this is too much bully
              1. +6
                6 December 2019 18: 23
                They see something, only in air defense systems using radars of the see range.
                And P12,18, 15 have long been standing in the museum of the Red Army.
                1. 0
                  6 December 2019 18: 34
                  Quote: 4ekist
                  only in air defense systems use radar see range

                  In my division used the P-12 and P-15. You probably tried to say about the antenna post. So used to be called radar guidance
                  Quote: 4ekist
                  And P12,18, 15 have long been standing in the museum of the Red Army.

                  So it is with Us, and not in the Czech Republic. True Sky still holds on the database
                  1. +7
                    6 December 2019 18: 41
                    I lied, I apologize. P18 is still spinning, mainly at airfields (providing the near zone) and in mobile units of the Republic of Tatarstan.
                    1. +2
                      6 December 2019 18: 56
                      Quote: 4ekist
                      I lied, I'm sorry P18 is still spinning, basically

                      Still would. P12 and p-18 differ in glasses (this is such a figurine such that the antenna collapses). And for such a baby, the visibility of 220 km and then the IKO is not enough. Put normal calculators and old women will serve
                      1. 0
                        8 December 2019 10: 20
                        Put normal calculators and old women will serve

                        In general, yes. If they realize the possibility of exchanging with each other, then when escorting one aircraft simultaneously with two such locators (spaced about 50 km apart), you can determine the height. With what accuracy is not much to say.
              2. +4
                6 December 2019 20: 11
                The passive tracking system for aerial targets, including those "invisible" (called "Tamara") was created by the "pampered" Czech mind. The next system "Vera" and "Vera-NG" is successfully sold to both NATO countries and other states, but based on strict laws and under the control of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Industry and Trade The civilian version, to date, has been sold in the amount of 100 kits to 63 countries on five continents.
          2. -6
            6 December 2019 18: 38
            Quote: Tusv
            If the air defense does not shoot, this does not mean that the system does not work and there are no facts of use

            That is exactly what it means. The meaning of air defense is to shoot.
            Quote: Tusv
            It’s just that they’re met not by rockets, but by fighters.

            What about examples?
            Quote: Tusv
            And quite successfully flyers aim at subtle targets

            I repeat the question.
            Quote: Tusv
            Shouts of "unprofessional interception" are constantly heard. For you, this is not a fact of combat use?

            Fly dangerously close to another plane = combat use. We will know.
            Quote: Tusv
            By the way, the Carapace solves the same tasks as the Iron Dome, and combat statistics are at least no worse.

            Let me guess. You can’t provide the combat statistics of the Shell, because it’s a military secret?
            1. 0
              6 December 2019 18: 44
              Quote: littoral
              That is exactly what it means. The meaning of air defense is to shoot.

              The meaning of air defense, so that not a single target falls on My land. But as? Is it that important ?. Our pilots are very high quality process a potential intruder. And before the air forces in the air defense of high-class pilots for more than in the air force hi
            2. 0
              6 December 2019 18: 48
              Quote: littoral
              Let me guess. You can’t provide the combat statistics of the Shell, because it’s a military secret?

              118 attacks. One target one rocket. Says so Zarathustra The official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. I clearly explain
              PS And yes, air defense are not born by soldiers. They become. You are definitely not one of ours
              1. -4
                6 December 2019 20: 21
                Quote: Tusv
                118 attacks. One target one rocket. Says so Zarathustra The official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. I clearly explain

                And where did the link to the official representative of the MO get lost? feel
                I'm embarrassed to ask, but 3 Shells destroyed in Syria (evil tongues say that there are already 4), are also included in "one target, one missile"?
                Quote: Tusv
                I clearly explain

                Extremely. I am still surprised at your modesty. Could, in all seriousness, declare that: two goals - one rocket. wink
                Quote: Tusv
                PS And yes, air defense are not born by soldiers. They become. You are definitely not one of ours

                Chatterboxes? 100%
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    2. +12
      6 December 2019 16: 29
      Quote: Kirill Dou
      At least Israeli systems have been tested by battle. Similar Russian systems have nothing to brag about in this regard.

      Excuse me, but what systems do you compare. So the "Armor" showed even higher efficiency
      1. -15
        6 December 2019 16: 35
        I may be wrong, but "Shell" and "Iron Dome" are systems of different classes. As far as I know, Russian systems of the same class as LCDs have not yet been used.
        1. +5
          6 December 2019 16: 39
          Quote: Kirill Dou
          I may be wrong, but "Armor" and "Iron Dome" are systems of different classes.

          The class is different, but both "object" and "Shell" shoot down more targets. And so, we must also see how the new "Thor" will show itself, so they have a lot in common with the "Dome"
          1. -19
            6 December 2019 16: 42
            and "Carapace" will shoot down more targets.
            - Do you have relevant statistics?
            1. +13
              6 December 2019 16: 45
              Quote: Kirill Dou
              - Do you have relevant statistics?

              And you look at the statistics, something that could not reach the base in Khmeini. These are RSs and UAVs ...
              1. -7
                6 December 2019 16: 50
                Quote: svp67
                by Rafael Advanced Defense Systems with US funding. It is intended for re

                Let's see the statistics. How many flew? How many shot down?
                1. +9
                  6 December 2019 16: 59
                  Quote: professor
                  Let's see the statistics. How many flew? How many shot down?

                  And then there is nothing to watch. There was only ONE "breakthrough" in the first raid. All others are reflected.
                  1. -6
                    6 December 2019 17: 01
                    Quote: svp67
                    Quote: professor
                    Let's see the statistics. How many flew? How many shot down?

                    And then there is nothing to watch. There was only ONE "breakthrough" in the first raid. All others are reflected.

                    Did they tell you that? One of one? One in a million?
                    1. +16
                      6 December 2019 17: 08
                      Quote: professor
                      Did they tell you that? One of one? One in a million?

                      Earlier, "Professor", our base in Khmeini, before clearing the area around the circle, was weekly subjected to attempts at strikes using UAVs and, in several cases, Grad missiles, and I know about this for sure. Unfortunately, I cannot give statistics.
                      Your specialists are also aware of this, it is not for nothing that they "hunt" for "Shells" and broadcast any success for several months. But it is not yet known what would have happened to your "dome" using such high-tech means of attack against it that you used against the "Shell", but with the mind ... In any case, your "Dome" also malfunctions against much less technological missiles
                      1. 0
                        6 December 2019 20: 49
                        Quote: svp67
                        Quote: professor
                        Did they tell you that? One of one? One in a million?

                        Earlier, "Professor", our base in Khmeini, before clearing the area around the circle, was weekly subjected to attempts at strikes using UAVs and, in several cases, Grad missiles, and I know about this for sure. Unfortunately, I cannot give statistics.
                        Your specialists are also aware of this, it is not for nothing that they "hunt" for "Shells" and broadcast any success for several months. But it is not yet known what would have happened to your "dome" using such high-tech means of attack against it that you used against the "Shell", but with the mind ... In any case, your "Dome" also malfunctions against much less technological missiles

                        No statistics and no conversation.

                        Quote: Tusv
                        Quote: professor
                        Did they tell you that? One of one? One in a million?

                        So at a briefing Konashenkov said about an almost 100% interception. 1 Missile - 1 Target

                        At a briefing Konashenkov did you say? Then I believe. wassat
                        He didn’t tell why mobile phones were taken from your fighters after photos of damaged planes appeared on the network?
                    2. -1
                      6 December 2019 17: 55
                      Quote: professor
                      Did they tell you that? One of one? One in a million?

                      So at a briefing Konashenkov said about an almost 100% interception. 1 Missile - 1 Target
                      1. +4
                        6 December 2019 18: 32
                        Quote: Tusv
                        So at a briefing Konashenkov said about an almost 100% interception. 1 Missile - 1 Target

                        In the first strike, UAVs did not experience any opposition whatsoever, therefore it was the only successful one.
                      2. -3
                        6 December 2019 19: 03
                        Quote: svp67
                        In the first strike, the UAVs did not experience any opposition whatsoever; therefore, it was the only successful one.

                        And by whom? What source was recognized as successful "I still don't always watch TV. Well, here, on this site, there were pictures after the attack. Not any success. Maybe I just missed it?"
                      3. +7
                        6 December 2019 19: 11
                        Quote: Tusv
                        And by whom? What source was recognized as successful "I still don't always watch TV. Well, here, on this site, there were pictures after the attack. Not any success. Maybe I just missed it?"

                        Forgive me, but the damage that "penny" UAVs were then able to inflict with a "multi-million dollar" plane could not be called a success.

                        It was not very possible to hide this fact of the Moscow Region, just then there were several journalists on the base, they themselves invited them to write about successes, and here it is ...
                      4. -1
                        6 December 2019 19: 25
                        Quote: svp67
                        It was not very possible to hide this fact of the Moscow Region, just then there were several journalists on the base, they themselves invited them to write about successes, and here it is ...

                        Can you trust the journalists? First, whose keel is in the photo? 23rd Miga. Do we have 23 Mig in service? No. Lupanuli has long been written off by the Syrians. Another thing is what Our snot chewed. Damn the contracts. :(
                        Anek for the glory of Friday
                        “You cannot trust anyone even yourself, because I just wanted to fart.” drinks
                      5. +12
                        6 December 2019 20: 14
                        And you would have to learn the materiel))) In the photo, the tail of the Su-24M. So there is a fact of damage))) I do not know if the Syrians have Su-24M oi, but in any case, the air defense breakthrough was, albeit not serious, once. The LCD in fact has never completed the task in its entirety. For stupid and stupid.
                      6. -1
                        6 December 2019 20: 28
                        And you would have to learn the materiel))) In the photo, the tail of the Su-24M.

                        I thought about that. But the photo is cropped. I just do not have full identification by keel. At 23 Miga, the keel sharply turns into the fuselage. A little to the right of the photo and everything would be clear. But still, Ours removed from the Russian Air Force in favor of Syria all 24 hi
                      7. +3
                        7 December 2019 03: 42
                        Quote: Tusv
                        . But all the same, Ours removed all 24 from Syria.

                        Su-24M is now the main "workhorse" of Nashik VKS in Syria
                      8. -1
                        6 December 2019 20: 58
                        Quote: stock buildbat
                        Reserve buildbat

                        Stroybat reserve, I am a paramilitary reserve. And I am proud of it. And he defended the sky of the naval base of the USSR Liepaja. We were very taught how to repel any attack. And in the proofs there is only a tail, and cut off which in the 60s had a bunch of planes. And finally. If this is a real photo, then for starters, a dude would sit on Guba for a couple of weeks, with all the ensuing details in the Western press.
                        Really don't believe hi
                      9. +7
                        6 December 2019 21: 03
                        I am not going to argue, quarrel, etc. hi
                        Just in this case, identify the Su-24M Elementary in the form of the launch vehicle and distinguish the Su-24 from the MiG 23/27 in relation to the height of the keel to the diameter of the nozzle of the fuselage smile
                        There is no way to confuse this, especially since the appearance of these aircraft is no secret to anyone for exactly 30 years)))
                        Plus from the smaller ones: in the second photo you can see the ventral fins (MiG has one) and the tail of the bomb (there is no MiG to hang the bomb, no holder)
                        And in the first photo you can see - the greater angle of the sweep of the keel, the antenna in the upper third of the keel, which the MiG does not have.
                      10. +13
                        6 December 2019 21: 12
                        Ivan hi I’m embarrassed to ask, but from Kael such delights in the field of aviation? At my airport such people landed, but I didn’t remember that either. Although there is something to compare - the number of engines. The Su-24 - there are two, and the MiG-23/27 - one. This is all that guards remembered, unfortunately. crying
                      11. +10
                        6 December 2019 21: 14
                        I’ve been doing bench modeling for many years))) So, if possible, I climbed a number of planes around museums, not hesitating to take a picture))) Even for a fee laughing
                        Hello, Sergey hi
                      12. +11
                        7 December 2019 03: 54
                        There it is! Now it is clear. good
                      13. -6
                        7 December 2019 04: 43
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        There it is! Now it is clear.

                        Yes, Sergey, this is so and I agree with you! drinks
                      14. +9
                        7 December 2019 20: 03
                        How else? Do you want to be significant on the site? And at the same time not identified, right? Vladik-Valerik?
                        Here's a cartoon about you:
                      15. -3
                        7 December 2019 20: 39
                        My comment was too emotional ...., had to be removed, sorry love
                        Count it, you're really not interesting to me .... well, in general, ABSOLUTELY, I hope I understand ....
                      16. -6
                        7 December 2019 21: 19
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        Yes, Sergey, this is so and I agree with you!

                        This is banter !!!))) serozh)))) you have absolutely everything there? You don’t cry current, just kill yourself, we’ll ask you normally, right on the detector)))) Although you already gave everyone a drummer) )))
                        Rattlesnake you will now have "everybody" and "drummer")))))
                      17. +8
                        8 December 2019 05: 08
                        A detector is serious. I'm afraid already. True, not very. Such a special that the computer does not know how to use the keys, the detector will kill at the moment.
                        The article is about military equipment, can you say anything about the case? Or will you discuss my person?
                      18. -5
                        7 December 2019 20: 43
                        Quote: Stroibat stock
                        So, if possible, I covered a number of planes in museums, not hesitating to take a picture)))

                        Ivan, you need to go to Monino before you drag the aviation museum away! soldier
                      19. +6
                        7 December 2019 21: 30
                        It happened. And at the MAX-2011 honored. At the debut of the Su-57
                      20. -4
                        7 December 2019 23: 34
                        Quote: Stroibat stock
                        And at the MAX-2011 honored. At the debut of the Su-57

                        Yeah, 8 years ago, and he’s like new, but hezh flies!
                      21. 0
                        6 December 2019 21: 16
                        Well, be. Whose Kiel. Stupid cropped

                        And this is the deliberately cropped tail of Miga - 23 Full Face. Tilt, keel elements are very similar hi
                      22. +7
                        6 December 2019 21: 21
                        MiG-23 in the parking lot. The ventral keel is folded. Maybe on the run, judging by the position of the stabilizers. But certainly not the Su-24 and not the MiG-27. The Su has a different launch vehicle, the MiG-27 has a different nozzle.
                      23. -3
                        6 December 2019 21: 21

                        Very similar? Yes. From a different angle, the penguin will be an instant 21 drinks
                      24. +9
                        6 December 2019 21: 24
                        Nothing like that))) Su-24. Just look at the lower edge of the launch vehicle, at the diameter of the "sausage" at the base of the keel, at the air intake near the keel and at the aforementioned antennas sticking out on the sides of the upper third of the keel drinks
                        This is if you do not pay attention to the obvious - the shape of the upper surface of the fuselage)))
                      25. +8
                        7 December 2019 20: 10
                        Ivan hi As far as I know, Alexander Paranoid50 is seriously engaged in bench modeling. He is from Peter. I hope you find a common language without intermediaries?
                      26. +5
                        7 December 2019 21: 31
                        Possibly ... (Mr. Smolett)
                      27. +10
                        7 December 2019 22: 32
                        There is interest, and therefore I can’t fit in. Advertising, be it wrong. I’m not at all involved here, but maybe for the better ... crying
                      28. +1
                        6 December 2019 20: 32
                        Quote: Tusv
                        First, whose keel is in the photo? 23rd Miga. Do we have 23 Mig in service? No.

                        In the photo Mig-23? Thanks to the expert! I'll know. good
                      29. -3
                        6 December 2019 20: 44
                        Quote: littoral
                        In the photo Mig-23? Thanks to the expert! I'll know.

                        Shchaz I ran and resolved my expert opinion. Gigabax at least for authorship. The photo is cropped by the cut keel. Is it possible to determine.? Phantom for example. No?
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                      32. +2
                        6 December 2019 21: 05
                        Quote: Tusv
                        The photo is cropped by the cut keel. How can one determine.?

                        Maybe you're better off on the cooking forum?

                      33. +10
                        6 December 2019 21: 19
                        Is the airman on the radar screen to determine the brand and model of the intruder? He has other tasks - not to be allowed into the protected space. And who is flying there - Boeing or Merin - to the lantern. hi
                      34. +1
                        6 December 2019 21: 31
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        Is the airman on the radar screen to determine the brand and model of the intruder?

                        I do not know how in other parts of the air defense, but in the Leningrad Guards, three times the Red Banner, the Orders of Suvorov and Kutuzov that’s hi
                        But not only by signature. Behavior. That is, the handwriting and mark, it is almost unique
                      35. -6
                        7 December 2019 05: 07
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        Is the airman on the radar screen to determine the brand and model of the intruder?

                        hi Sergey, I completely agree with you, there is also a "Zhiguli", an LAdA-guarantee and like her, ugh, a yellow viburnum! I support you! hi drinks Hello Pasha! good drinks
                      36. +7
                        7 December 2019 20: 15
                        Was there a problem with Russian in school? Are the twins alone? Grant and Kalina - not mine. I have NIVA. wink
                      37. -6
                        7 December 2019 23: 45
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        I have NIVA.

                        I'm proud of you! current you tryndel, sho at your sister's "Kruzak" or .., she's serious))))
                      38. +8
                        8 December 2019 04: 54
                        "Kruzak" and a truck - a slightly different class of car. Anyway. Does it really matter what, just to go to your destination?
                      39. 0
                        6 December 2019 21: 28
                        Quote: littoral
                        Maybe you're better off on the cooking forum?
                        \
                        With my database on the border? Penguins learned to cook. I just want to ask. You don’t know shit about air defense, how it works for Us, the USA and Israel. I do not understand your sarcasm. And I can cook almost everything except salads. Real jam
                      40. +6
                        7 December 2019 03: 36
                        Quote: Tusv
                        First, whose keel is in the photo? 23rd Miga.

                        For starters, this is the keel of the Su-24M, have you heard of such an airplane? Here it is, take a look at it
                        Quote: Tusv
                        “You cannot trust anyone even yourself, because I just wanted to fart.”

                        Well, you somehow hold back, to the toilet
                  2. -5
                    6 December 2019 22: 52
                    Quote: svp67
                    All others are reflected.

                    This year alone, the Israeli Air Force attacked targets in Syria with over 2019 missiles.
                    And how many planes shot down Syrian air defense?
                    Recently, information has been received (or not received at all) about unidentified aircraft that launched rocket attacks on the border between Iraq and Syria.
                    And IF they are not identified, then everything is very simple or did not see and did not recognize, or it is simply embarrassing to admit that they can do nothing. .
                    Meanwhile, Russia is giving and giving Assad new air defense systems.
                    Meanwhile, there is information that the Syrian air defense systems that open fire on Israeli air force planes are immediately destroyed and only thanks to cooperation with the Russian Ministry of Defense, Israel does not disclose details, and also always asks for the Syrian air defense to be transferred before the attack, which will be destroyed in case of opening fire on aircraft.
                    THESE FACTS!
                    And the number of caps and minuses will not affect this in any way.
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                3. +4
                  7 December 2019 16: 05
                  Quote: professor
                  Quote: svp67
                  by Rafael Advanced Defense Systems with US funding. It is intended for re

                  Let's see the statistics. How many flew? How many shot down?

                  where will your statistics come from ???? themselves beat everything personally ??? what wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
              2. -11
                6 December 2019 16: 52
                Statistics are aggregated data for several (not one or two) cases. As far as I know, only 2 cases of attacks on the Khmeimim base are reliably known. Compare with the amount of data on Iron Beam.
                1. +11
                  6 December 2019 16: 58
                  Quote: Kirill Dou
                  As far as I know, only 2 cases of attacks on the Khmeimim base are reliably known.

                  ABOUT TWO? I wonder where you have such "news". No, initially, after the first successful raid, the "barmaley" carried out such raids on a weekly basis, now, of course, their ardor has diminished, but nevertheless they are still trying.
                  1. -10
                    6 December 2019 17: 09
                    How many searched on the Web - found only about 2 cases of attack.
                    1. +11
                      6 December 2019 17: 17
                      Quote: Kirill Dou
                      How many searched on the web - found only about 2 cases of attack

                      I didn’t have much trouble finding and here is such news, on the same Network, check out and this is only in one month
                      "The Russian base Khmeimim has been attacked 12 times in a month. Drones and missiles."
                      http://www.militarycolumnist.ru/12-atacks/
                      1. -3
                        6 December 2019 17: 25
                        OK, accepted.
                      2. -4
                        6 December 2019 23: 02
                        Quote: svp67
                        "The Russian base Khmeimim has been attacked 12 times in a month. Drones and missiles."
                        http://www.militarycolumnist.ru/12-atacks/

                        I read and looked.
                        SHOOT LIGHT, but where are the debris?
                        When the Israeli plane was shot down, we all saw when they fired at the SA, we also saw the wreckage.
                        12 ATTACK AND WE DON'T SHOW THE DECK, THEY ARE VAPORIZED?
                        Are they classified, or maybe there is another reason?
                    2. 0
                      6 December 2019 17: 41
                      Quote: Kirill Dou
                      How many searched on the Web - found only about 2 cases of attack.

                      Official statistics, voiced by the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Major General Igor Konashenkov, September 7.09.2019, 118. XNUMX attacks were repelled.
                      1. -5
                        6 December 2019 17: 42
                        Well, that’s another matter, it’s a good example of argumentation.
                2. 0
                  6 December 2019 17: 35
                  Quote: Kirill Dou
                  As far as I know, reliably

                  It’s surely you’re a direct witness, and two cases that you found it was Hailie Likely hi
                  1. -5
                    6 December 2019 17: 43
                    Quote: Tusv
                    Certainly, you are a direct witness
                    - then, it turns out, we can’t trust the words of Konoshenkov about 118 reflected attacks? We are not eyewitnesses.
                    1. 0
                      6 December 2019 17: 50
                      Quote: Kirill Dou
                      then, it turns out, we can’t trust the words of Konoshenkov about 118 reflected attacks?

                      You said authentically. I referred to Konoshenkov and not a word about authenticity
                      Ours will surely lie without batting an eye, if the attack was American or Israeli, well, or just flew by accident
                      And Hiley Likely, I’ll say that the American axes from Tartus extinguished EW. Well, it turns out very logical drinks
                      1. -4
                        6 December 2019 17: 56
                        I do not quite understand the logic of your reasoning. How then can we evaluate the effectiveness of a particular weapon if everyone is lying? What is the point then in general to discuss something at the VO if all the information provided in the articles can be unreliable?
                      2. 0
                        6 December 2019 18: 18
                        Quote: Kirill Dou
                        I do not quite understand the logic of your reasoning. How then can we evaluate the effectiveness of a particular weapon if everyone is lying?

                        The logic is simple. Based on the postulate of a lie (There are 3 types of lies: direct, understatement and statistics) The military "truth" falls under two points at once, because some data are classified as top secret, plus disinformation drinks
                        Just wondering,. why with the beginning of the Syrian war with barmaley very often aircraft began to fall in training flights in the other hemisphere what
                      3. -1
                        6 December 2019 19: 25
                        The military "truth" falls under two points at once, because some data are classified as top secret, plus disinformation drinks
                        - okay. But you wrote to me in another message that "Shell" does the same job as "Dome", only "a little more accurate." If all military infa (from all sides) is a lie, then why are you making such a statement?

                        "planes began to crash very often during training flights in the other hemisphere" - your thoughts?
              3. -3
                6 December 2019 18: 25
                Quote: professor translator
                Let's see the statistics. How many flew? How many shot down?

                Professor-translator (Sokolov Oleg), complete ignorance of radar. You can’t determine it with your calculations ... Maybe you can understand why?
            2. +1
              6 December 2019 17: 06
              Quote: Kirill Dou
              and "Carapace" will shoot down more targets.
              - Do you have relevant statistics?

              And you ? laughing
              1. -13
                6 December 2019 17: 08
                On the LCD, the Israeli Ministry of Defense has statistics.
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        2. +4
          6 December 2019 17: 24
          Here the price of one rocket from the iron dome is like a good passenger car, still the cost of efficiency you need to look
          1. -3
            6 December 2019 17: 28
            The cost of one missile is in any case less than the cost of destruction caused by a Kassam that has entered the city zone.
            1. +3
              6 December 2019 17: 30
              And what did they destroy?
              they are not accurate these missiles and after a mass salvo the lcd's efficiency is zero and it's good that they are not accurate
              1. -7
                6 December 2019 17: 37
                Quote: Uncle Izya
                And what did they destroy?
                - residential buildings, infrastructure.

                "and after a massive volley, the effectiveness of the residential complex is zero" - the Israel Defense Forces reports 85% of the repulsed missiles that reached residential areas. This is good efficiency.
                1. +4
                  6 December 2019 17: 38
                  Oh yes they say and you believe)))
                  1. -1
                    6 December 2019 17: 44
                    Quote: Uncle Izya
                    Oh yes they say and you believe)))
                    - why shouldn't I believe them? And then, who should I believe? You?
                  2. -1
                    6 December 2019 23: 19
                    Quote: Uncle Izya
                    Oh yes they say and you believe

                    And you answer and I will I WILL TRUST.
                    If in two days they release ANYONE the city of Russia 800 missiles with BG weighing from 20-70 kg
                    HOW MUCH HOUSES WILL BE BROKEN AND HOW MUCH WILL BE HARD?
                    Whatever you ask questions.
                    In Israel, 4 houses were destroyed, NO LOSS, there are about 100 wounded from broken glass that fell on the way to the bomb shelter and from a nervous shock.
              2. +6
                6 December 2019 19: 28
                Quote: Uncle Izya
                And what did they destroy?
                they are not accurate these missiles and after a mass salvo the lcd's efficiency is zero and it's good that they are not accurate

                In Israel, in the event of a loss of living space during a database, damage to the owner is compensated by the state. Let's calculate - the average cost of housing is 1400 000 NIS ~ 23 million rubles
                Now - the cost of a Tamir ZhK rocket is about a million rubles (according to various sources). The question is what is more profitable.
                1. +12
                  6 December 2019 21: 27
                  Albert hi
                  The question is what is more profitable.

                  The conditions of the problem are not defined. If my house is - see the rocket for me at the window, if the enemies live there - the rocket does not mind.
                  1. +7
                    6 December 2019 21: 59
                    Good evening,
                    The situation is as follows:
                    I am a state living at the expense of access to technology.
                    Such access is given to me by countries with a rather homosexual cultural, media, and sometimes political establishment, often with a large Arab community. If during the Hezbollah / Hamas attack I really smite “over squares”, which will entail hundreds of thousands of corpses, this will cause a wave of protest in developed countries, then sanctions will follow that will lower the standard of living of my population and, consequently, the fall of the government as a result early elections.
                    Therefore, tactics are chosen - we hit Hizbullah / Hamas as selectively as possible, avoiding catastrophic casualties among the Arab civilian population, while protecting our own to the maximum - otherwise the government will fly away again because the people, in case of heavy losses, will demand revenge.
                    Therefore, an iron dome was introduced.
                    The disadvantage is dear. Housing and life are even more expensive - the people will be unhappy, the government will lose power. Therefore, the task of the LCD is to minimize any losses among its own, thus avoiding large losses among the Palestinians. Roughly - an expensive political toy, preserving the balance necessary for the government in foreign and domestic affairs.
                  2. -7
                    7 December 2019 04: 49
                    Quote: Svarog51
                    Svarog51 (Sergey)

                    Totally agree!
                    Quote: Svarog51
                    The conditions of the problem are not defined.


                    determine, Sergey, agree !!! Bravo!
                    Quote: Svarog51
                    nafig a rocket to the window, if the enemies live there - the rocket is not a pity.
                    1. +9
                      7 December 2019 20: 27
                      Here's at least a drop of information on the topic, well, at least a little bit. And then all the comments by no means touch the topic, even indirectly. Continuous personal showdowns and grievances at not recognizing a genius. There is nothing significant about weapons, equipment, or equipment. Aplomb over the edge. Let's have a "colleague" work on the site on the topic. This is not social protection, where you have to complain about a bad life. lol
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      3. -1
        6 December 2019 18: 39
        Quote: svp67
        ... So the "Armor" showed even higher efficiency

        Well do not languish already!
    3. -2
      6 December 2019 16: 53
      Laughing - by the fight! More likely water pipes.
      1. -5
        6 December 2019 17: 10
        And yet. Russian analogues of LCDs do not even have such an experience.
        1. +2
          6 December 2019 17: 36
          You are still considered a goy in Israel, you can not be a lawyer even though you are 1000% Jewish))
          In Syria, the armor and the Torah every day I bring down something
          1. +1
            6 December 2019 17: 46
            Quote: Uncle Izya
            You in israel
            - I do not live in Israel, I live in Russia. I somehow side by side who they consider me in Israel.

            "Carapace" is written with the letter "and".
            1. +1
              6 December 2019 19: 20
              I have a technical spelling mistake)))
              1. 0
                6 December 2019 19: 22
                What is my technical error?
          2. +7
            6 December 2019 19: 30
            Quote: Uncle Izya
            You are still considered a goy in Israel, you can not be a lawyer even though you are 1000% Jewish))
            In Syria, the armor and the Torah every day I bring down something

            If his mother is a non-Jew, then yes
            If you ask if this excites anyone in Israel, except for the rabbis before the ritual ceremonies, then no)).
            1. -1
              8 December 2019 04: 11
              Thank you))
          3. 0
            6 December 2019 23: 26
            Quote: Uncle Izya
            In Syria, the armor and the Torah every day I bring down something

            Discover us SECRET
            What do they shoot down?
        2. 0
          6 December 2019 18: 24
          Quote: Kirill Dou
          Russian analogues of LCDs do not even have such an experience.

          I will repeat Cyril. The carapace performs the same tasks as the LCD. Only a little closer and more precise. FOR LCD on mortar fire figures on top, so that a mine or hail fell into the desert. Weaky in LCD missiles in speed, but warheads are more solid
    4. +6
      6 December 2019 17: 03
      Do you trust the Israeli data on these interceptions? Palestinians often use homemade rockets, some even fall short of their target. And if they use modern weapons, their "dome" is able to hit it in time? I doubt it very much.
      1. -3
        6 December 2019 17: 12
        Quote: 4ekist
        Do you trust Israeli data on these interceptions?
        “Well, why not?”


        Quote: 4ekist
        I doubt very much.
        - grounds for doubt?
        1. +1
          6 December 2019 17: 26
          So the pipes then fly, even kill when they hit the target.
          1. -3
            6 December 2019 17: 38
            Quote: gurzuf
            So the pipes then fly, even kill when they hit the target.
            - some fly, yes. No one says LCD has 100 percent efficiency. Lost up to 85% of missiles that flew to residential areas.
        2. +3
          6 December 2019 17: 32
          But I am not inclined to believe everything and everything.
          And on the second question I’ll say this: there are many different factors, natural (the altitude of the missiles, terrain, effective reflecting surface of the rocket, their number, flight speed ....) and artificial (the use of electronic systems for suppressing RES, interference, launching false goals, etc. I will not list everything.)
          I had to work to detect and intercept cruise missiles, and you know, very successfully.
          1. -3
            6 December 2019 17: 47
            Quote: 4ekist
            But I am not inclined to believe everything and everything.
            - then where do you get information to assess the effectiveness of a particular weapon of a country? In any case, you have to believe someone.
            1. +3
              6 December 2019 17: 51
              Nobody should be trusted. EVERYONE LIES.
              1. -3
                6 December 2019 17: 53
                So how then to evaluate the effectiveness of a weapon? Why then all these conversations and discussions, if everything can be canceled out by the phrase "no data is reliable"?
                1. -2
                  6 December 2019 19: 36
                  You do not bother ...
                  Most believe in the power of their own weapons, from the word FAITH ... and faith does not require proof ...
                  Moreover, the shell, when it was necessary to repulse not pipes and makeshift UAVs, turned into a pile of metal. ... and everyone on the site knows about it .... but faith remains
              2. 0
                6 December 2019 18: 49
                Quote: 4ekist
                Nobody should be trusted. EVERYONE LIES.

                Even General Konashenkov? lol
                1. +2
                  6 December 2019 18: 54
                  Konashenkov - mouthpiece Min. defense. What they order him to declare, he will declare.
      2. -1
        6 December 2019 23: 36
        Quote: 4ekist
        And if they use modern weapons, their "dome" is able to hit it in time?

        Shelling by the Iranian forces in Syria of the Israeli army on the Golan Heights
        10 May 2018
        Shelling by the Iranian forces in Syria of the Israeli army on the Golan Heights
        Iranian forces fired 20 Grad and Fajr missilesthat were intercepted by Israel's missile defense system "Iron dome"
        Missile attack on Israeli territory from Syria was recorded 20th of January 2019 Then the rocket was intercepted "Iron dome" and the IDF retaliated against targets in Syria.
        At 4:52 on Tuesday, 19 November, Israeli territory was fired from Syria. The siren worked in the Golan Heights and in the Upper Galilee. The Iron Dome missile defense system intercepted four missiles.
    5. 0
      6 December 2019 17: 21
      Quote: Kirill Dou
      At least Israeli systems have been tested by battle. Similar Russian systems have nothing to brag about in this regard.

      Kirill Dou, do not write your childish illiterate babble if you do not understand air defense and missile defense systems.
      1. 0
        6 December 2019 17: 30
        If I speak "illiterate babble" (and I may well be wrong, yes, I do not claim to be an expert) - refute it with concrete evidence. In the meantime, you have only insults, which clearly does not paint your position.
        1. +2
          6 December 2019 17: 37
          we are all experts here))
          Hodarenka listen, he is special in air defense
          1. -2
            6 December 2019 17: 48
            Quote: Uncle Izya
            Hodarenka listen, he is special in air defense
            - who is what he is famous for?
            1. +1
              6 December 2019 19: 19
              Google to help you
            2. +6
              6 December 2019 19: 34
              Quote: Kirill Dou
              Quote: Uncle Izya
              Hodarenka listen, he is special in air defense
              - who is what he is famous for?

              Solovyov’s projects shone. And with Solovyov himself and with an expert like Satanovskrgr - who knows everyone, everyone all - Peres, Abas, Karabas-Barabas. )))
              1. 0
                6 December 2019 20: 43
                Ah, of course)) If Solovyov’s, then the expert is definitely worthy of all trust laughing
                1. +6
                  6 December 2019 20: 51
                  Quote: Kirill Dou
                  Ah, of course)) If Solovyov’s, then the expert is definitely worthy of all trust laughing

                  In fact, a competent uncle. But he says what Soloviev pays him for - while he tries to be as professional as possible. Googelite, interesting people.
                  1. 0
                    6 December 2019 20: 52
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    But he says what Soloviev pays him for - while he tries to be as professional as possible.
                    - "the most professional" and "says what Solovyov pays him for" - these are some mutually exclusive paragraphs, in my opinion)
                    1. +6
                      6 December 2019 20: 57
                      No
                      He gives exactly the amount of information that Solovyov’s programs need - but Vladimir Rudolfovich, the chief expert on all world issues, draws his conclusions and broadcasts them to the masses on the basis of strictly dosed information from Khodarenka))
                      1. -1
                        8 December 2019 04: 13
                        Tricky schemes of federal TV))
    6. +2
      7 December 2019 06: 10
      Quote: Kirill Dou
      At least Israeli systems have been tested by battle. Similar Russian systems have nothing to brag about in this regard. So the decision is quite rational.

      There is nothing to brag about S-300 and S-400. But Thor and the Shell showed themselves in all its glory. Jewish people are good too, they also went through a serious practice.
      1. -1
        8 December 2019 04: 14
        As far as I understand. Thor and Shell are not analogues of the LCD. Although I am not particularly interested in air defense / missile defense, I fully admit that I am mistaken.
  3. +4
    6 December 2019 16: 26
    And what else should they buy?
    1. +8
      6 December 2019 16: 35
      Quote: Fraancol_2
      And what else should they buy?

      This is correct ... although they could have supported "the American manufacturer," what about NATO's solidarity?
      Czech Republic buys Israeli radars to replace "obsolete" Russian
      More interesting, what are these "" obsolete "" Russian "" "? These are the ones that are already half a century old and have "Made in USSR" nameplates on them?
      1. +11
        6 December 2019 19: 57
        If half a century ago, then on the nameplates "Made in the USSR", it later became "Made in ..." hi
        1. -6
          7 December 2019 17: 07
          Quote: Svarog51
          If half a century ago, then on the nameplates "Made in the USSR

          You then hardly knew how to read it))) These are the hypothetical situation, on Friday next week, suddenly everything changed, it seems that the flag is not the same, in general nuances .., while they tell you, here’s a blindfold, I’ll pay you 3 raccoons , pension in its amount, well, your family, in which case, will be sent to the metropolis .... Did you take the oath?

          OATH

          ORDER AND BOARD COMPOSITION OF BODIES

          INTERNAL AFFAIRS



          I, a citizen of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, entering the service of the internal affairs bodies, take the Oath and solemnly swear to the end to remain faithful to my people, the socialist homeland and the cause of communist construction, to be honest, courageous, disciplined, vigilant worker, exemplary to serve, strictly observe socialist legality, keep state and official secrets.

          I swear in good faith and unquestioningly to fulfill all the duties assigned to me, the requirements of charters and orders, not to spare my strength, and, if necessary, life itself, while protecting the Soviet public and state system, socialist property, the personality and rights of citizens and the socialist law and order.

          If I violate this solemn oath of mine, then let me suffer the punishment in all severity of Soviet law.

          the outraged people will ask you for this severity from all those muscled!
          1. +7
            7 December 2019 17: 23
            Quote: Stroporez
            ... Well family-friendly your...

            Last time you were told that plumping is bad. And to climb under the blue on the site is completely unprofitable.

            Let me remind you - at that time you decided not to believe.
          2. +7
            7 December 2019 17: 31
            Quote: Stroporez
            Quote: Svarog51
            If half a century ago, then on the nameplates "Made in the USSR

            You then hardly knew how to read it))) These are the hypothetical situation, on Friday next week, suddenly everything changed, it seems that the flag is not the same, in general nuances .., while they tell you, here’s a blindfold, I’ll pay you 3 raccoons , pension in its amount, well, your family, in which case, will be sent to the metropolis .... Did you take the oath?

            OATH

            ORDER AND BOARD COMPOSITION OF BODIES

            INTERNAL AFFAIRS



            I, a citizen of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, entering the service of the internal affairs bodies, take the Oath and solemnly swear to the end to remain faithful to my people, the socialist homeland and the cause of communist construction, to be honest, courageous, disciplined, vigilant worker, exemplary to serve, strictly observe socialist legality, keep state and official secrets.

            I swear in good faith and unquestioningly to fulfill all the duties assigned to me, the requirements of charters and orders, not to spare my strength, and, if necessary, life itself, while protecting the Soviet public and state system, socialist property, the personality and rights of citizens and the socialist law and order.

            If I violate this solemn oath of mine, then let me suffer the punishment in all severity of Soviet law.

            the outraged people will ask you for this severity from all those muscled!

            It's just a masterpiece! Is everything OK? Can help with what? Pills, products - do not be shy, write - what you need!
            1. +9
              7 December 2019 20: 33
              Alexey hi This is just "my" client. The Ministry of Emergencies is present during the examination of the client by doctors, you never know what is imagined. Our guys are strong, they will help the friendly service to curb the "violent" client. I myself saw this more than once.
    2. +5
      6 December 2019 17: 39
      Sergei is right, the Patriots! At the same time, defense spending will be raised to the required percentage.
      And the fact that they have all that they have left is "Made in USSR", here on the VO there was a review on the aviation of the Czech Air Defense, I think there is a similar situation with regard to the air defense system, the most recent is 86-89. Of course outdated, no one will argue here.
  4. +12
    6 December 2019 16: 28
    The heading of the article in the worst traditions of law enforcement for more cf. in the comments.
    1. +2
      6 December 2019 17: 47
      To attract attention, it is possible, but cf. is possible, if it is possible, But here everything is obvious.
      The Czechs finally decided that it was necessary to take up air defense, well, we know what they chose ... Although, nevertheless, we managed to stir up some laughing
  5. 0
    6 December 2019 16: 34
    In principle, our radars are not bad at the "near level" of contact. There are prospects for sales to NATO countries. And not only. USA, Czech Republic, and Azerbaijan, Korea. I think it's just the beginning.
    PS. Here, perhaps, there is something to learn from Elbit, Raphael in engineering terms.
  6. -2
    6 December 2019 16: 38
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Fraancol_2
    And what else should they buy?

    This is correct ... although they could have supported "the American manufacturer," what about NATO's solidarity?
    Czech Republic buys Israeli radars to replace "obsolete" Russian
    More interesting, what are these "" obsolete "" Russian "" "? These are the ones that are already half a century old and have "Made in USSR" nameplates on them?

    Well, you understand, you have something equivalent. But who needs problems other than the Sultan ...
  7. +4
    6 December 2019 16: 41
    It would be more correct to say not Russian but Soviet. Well, all that they have is radar 70s-80s, which are morally obsolete. It is strange that non-European systems are just buying.
  8. +2
    6 December 2019 16: 45
    Quote: Sergey 777
    It would be more correct to say not Russian but Soviet. Well, all that they have is radar 70s-80s, which are morally obsolete. It is strange that non-European systems are just buying.

    Quote: Sergey 777
    It would be more correct to say not Russian but Soviet. Well, all that they have is radar 70s-80s, which are morally obsolete. It is strange that non-European systems are just buying.

    // It’s strange that they’re just buying non-European systems //
    So then all the words. Nothing but trials.
  9. 0
    6 December 2019 16: 49
    Why not Skyshield 35? Painfully "Dome" is gluttonous.
  10. +3
    6 December 2019 16: 52
    The Iron Dome system was developed by the Israeli company Rafael Advanced Defense Systems with American funding.

    The radars bought by the Czechs have nothing to do with Raphael. They are designed by AIAI. More than 100 pieces have already been delivered to foreign customers.

    https://oleggranovsky.livejournal.com/344370.html
  11. +2
    6 December 2019 16: 53
    Quote: knn54
    Why not Skyshield 35? Painfully "Dome" is gluttonous.

    Yes, I would not say. Though. What do you mean by gluttony. Formula in studio laughing
  12. -4
    6 December 2019 16: 54
    The Iron Dome system was developed by the Israeli company Rafael Advanced Defense Systems with American funding
    So it will be the Czechs, guaranteed iron cap under this leaky cumpole.
    As they have not yet fired F-35, it is incomprehensible and strange laughing
    1. -1
      6 December 2019 17: 08
      Anyway, who needs these Czechs? Who is going to attack them?
      The West has not yet given birth to new Hitler and has not brought to power.
  13. +1
    6 December 2019 16: 55
    Quote: anjey
    The Iron Dome system was developed by the Israeli company Rafael Advanced Defense Systems with American funding
    So it will be the Czechs, guaranteed iron cap under this leaky cumpole.
    As they have not yet fired F-35, it is incomprehensible and strange laughing

    Fine. Here are recently 400 missiles. Victims?
    By the way, you do not know who this base on the border with Iraq is constantly pressing. They say that no one knows these aliens.
    1. +1
      6 December 2019 17: 48
      Antediluvian NURs and mostly in deserts, where did the victims come from?
      And then the percentage of 15-20% of these missiles was not affected, but what can we say about more modern and technological threats from the camp of a more worthy enemy.
      Hamas rockets are not an indicator of the quality of your "Iron Dome" and your radar stations with it, on the contrary laughing .
      1. +7
        6 December 2019 19: 37
        Quote: anjey
        Antediluvian NURs and mostly in deserts, where did the victims come from?
        And then the percentage of 15-20% of these missiles was not affected, but what can we say about more modern and technological threats from the camp of a more worthy enemy.
        Hamas rockets are not an indicator of the quality of your "Iron Dome" and your radar stations with it, on the contrary laughing .

        What exactly is a hpmass rocket? Kasam (1,2,3), Katyusha, Grad, Fajer? )))
        1. 0
          6 December 2019 21: 21
          These are all obsolete weapons, all the more requiring skillful use for clearly defined purposes, as an example, the Katyushas really terrified the Germans, as they well mowed them at the front, even hiding in trenches, pillboxes and bunkers, modern attacks on Israel, more from the category psychological and informational, it’s shooting like a penny, shooting for the sake of the fact of shooting, without the goal of mass destruction of military targets and manpower, the fulfillment of a certain order, without much damage to the enemy, and it’s not even J. Dome, that’s all a big question. ??? Rather, this is a long-established method for cutting the Bubble from both sides, and even to some extent agreed upon.
          1. +7
            6 December 2019 21: 37
            Here you need to understand the realities of Gaza. If you build a Katyusha division in the sector, he simply will not have time to make a shot)).
            Therefore, it looks something like this:
            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-HXAilcDQSE
            And yes, the Palestinians, in principle, know that in the case of a large number of Israeli peacekeepers who have died, the government will have no choice but to demolish neighborhoods in the Gaza Strip. On the other hand, with prolonged disassembly a la 2014 Hamas, in order to remain in power in Gaza, it is necessary to show some minor serious damage to the Israeli rear.
            In short - a knife blade game
            1. +1
              6 December 2019 21: 42
              You know better on the spot, especially since you agree with me on something.
              1. +6
                6 December 2019 22: 03
                From Krasnodar, it’s not so obvious anymore ...))) ... but in 2014, rockets from Gaza were shot down with me over the residential buildings of Tel Aviv and Ramat Gan, about your opinion - yes, they try not to work there in full force - politics, and bilateral.
    2. 0
      6 December 2019 18: 08
      Quote: Shahno
      By the way, you do not know who this base on the border with Iraq is constantly pressing. They say that no one knows these aliens.

      Why are you immediately sick then? Before there, and the land is crooked and did not engage to look in that direction. East however.
  14. -1
    6 December 2019 16: 57
    It's simple, the Czech Republic is worried about the safety of its citizens.
    1. -1
      6 December 2019 17: 38
      Especially about political loyalty, which has the financial base of the entire European Union, dispensing distributing for this loyalty.
      1. +1
        6 December 2019 17: 46
        Quote: anjey
        Especially about political loyalty, which has the financial base of the entire European Union, dispensing distributing for this loyalty.

        The Czech Republic is introducing a new system, and will move away from the old one (while the soldiers are running, the boots are in place.)
  15. 0
    6 December 2019 17: 05
    Israeli Ministry of Defense Signs Agreement with Czech Partners for Sale

    And who are these colleagues interesting? Surnames can be in the studio .. heh heh
    PS And the main thing is who is behind them and how much is it and against whom ???
    1. 0
      6 December 2019 17: 58
      You have a strange question! Obviously, in addition to the surname of the Czech Defense Minister, the surnames of the other colleagues (from the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Finance) who participated in the negotiations, they will not tell you anything ... And if they say ... then you, by virtue of involvement in ..., so you owe them to know, or ... nefig spy here laughing
      1. +3
        6 December 2019 19: 01
        Quote: volodimer
        And if they say ... then you, by virtue of involvement in ..., so you should know them, or ... you don’t shit here

        I understood, I am silent and I swear by Allah (the topic is closed, otherwise everyone will come running here))))
        1. +1
          6 December 2019 19: 35
          Oh ... below, you have already ... all been given out good That's how intelligence works bully,
          honestly ... asked, answered ... what's wrong, why send diplomats ...
          Taking off my hat hi This is a master class for collecting information drinks
    2. +3
      6 December 2019 18: 30
      Quote: Starper-777
      And who are these colleagues interesting? Surnames can be in the studio .. heh heh

      IAI's Yoav Tourgeman (as well as executive vice president and the CEO of Elta)

      retired brig. Gen. Yair Kulas (the one on the right)

      This agreement will deepen and strengthen cooperation and relations with our Czech partners.

      from the Czechs (second from left (don't know him) and the far right: Lubomír metnar)

      sorry... and for what purpose are you interested in?
      Want to (in the meaning of No. 1 of course) do you want them? Addresses to give?
      1. +3
        6 December 2019 19: 07
        Quote: opus
        I'm sorry ... but for what purpose are you interested in?

        Well, the pictures were needed, but what? bully
        Quote: opus
        Addresses to give?

        No need .. That's enough. hi
        1. +1
          6 December 2019 19: 12
          Quote: Starper-777
          Well, the pictures were needed, but what

          be careful there!
          Wear



          Neil Bazou, Head of Counter-Terrorism, Scotland Yard
          Now we need to prove the connection between the death of Dawn Sturgess and the poisoning of Charlie Rowley with the attempt on the Skripals. To do this, you need to understand where all this time there was a container with nerve agent. The poison was in a fake container from Nina Ricci perfumes - we published an image of this bottle. It is completely unclear where he was between March 4 and June 27.


          Generalbundesanwaltung Germay, a leading murder investigation, said that

          There are sufficient factual reasons to believe that the murder was carried out either at the direction of the state authorities of the Russian Federation, or at the direction of the authorities of the Chechen Republic, which is part of the Russian Federation.
          1. +14
            6 December 2019 20: 07
            Anton hi
            be careful there!
            Wear

            What is it? Do Czechs claim our MIKHAN? We urgently need to hide it under the Carapace Dome. wink
            "You need such a lady yourself!" (c) cartoon.
            1. +1
              6 December 2019 20: 14
              Quote: Svarog51
              Are the Czechs applying for our MIKHAN?

              Meehan wants
              Quote: author
              Czech colleagues
              for the purchase of Israeli radars "newbie" to treat.

              I understand that. Therefore, I asked
              Quote: Starper-777

              And who are these colleagues interesting? Surnames can be in the studio..he hehe


              I helped him ... Gave the setting data for "colleagues"
              How does the bottle with the "Newbie" work?
              You can see here:

              https://www.bbc.com/russian/av/media-46311833//embed
              Says the head of the Skripals investigation!
              1. +11
                6 December 2019 20: 31
                Anton, I have long understood that it’s better not to argue with you on technical topics, but how interesting it is if you try. Someone even podzumil me about a new helicopter, which is not in the project either. But how beautiful. good drinks
                1. +1
                  6 December 2019 20: 42
                  Quote: Svarog51
                  on technical topics it’s better not to argue with you

                  Are we arguing?
                  we seem to be "Michan" in the Czech Republic with a presentation of the Novice -M trying to send!
                  and maybe not only to the Czech Republic
                  1. +12
                    6 December 2019 20: 56
                    Well, as far as I know, he decided to hide from his wife in Israel. In the Czech Republic, few people know him, but in Israel, he’ll be lost from his wife. I hope that after the adventures he will nevertheless return to VO. Friends to relax, but work must be done. A site without it, like apricot seedless - dried apricots, in a word. tongue
      2. -1
        7 December 2019 18: 59
        Quote: opus
        from the Czechs (second on the left (I don’t know him) and the most extreme on the right: Lubomír Metnar)

        From left to right: Lubomir Metnar, Yair Kulas, Daniel Meron (Israeli ambassador to the Czech Republic), Yoav Turjeman (ELTA general director and IAI deputy general director).
  16. +3
    6 December 2019 17: 12
    Quote: Starper-777
    Israeli Ministry of Defense Signs Agreement with Czech Partners for Sale

    And who are these colleagues interesting? Surnames can be in the studio .. heh heh
    PS And the main thing is who is behind them and how much is it and against whom ???

    There is Prime in the know. Babish is his last name. Well, if that ...
    1. +3
      6 December 2019 20: 06
      Quote: Shahno
      There is Prime in the know. Babish is his last name. Well, if that ...

      I am in the know, I’ve already been reported higher .. hi
      1. +13
        6 December 2019 20: 49
        R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ hi You are not all Israelis one size fits all .... then. I know that there are two "shelves" where you define them. Here is Paul Shahno - one of those for the allies. You were going to screw things up from your wife to Israel. wink So get friends.
        1. +3
          7 December 2019 07: 49
          Quote: Svarog51
          You were going to screw from Israel to your wife. wink So get friends.

          Sergei do not poison your soul ..... You can’t just get away from this polka, yesterday there was an attempt to leave Kazakhstan .. We were caught nevertheless ..
          Here you can’t do without a mossad. he he laughing drinks
          1. +8
            8 December 2019 05: 14
            I hope for VO that she allows to run away? Or is he standing behind him and watching? Well this is some kind of violence on the freedom of the individual. laughing drinks
  17. +2
    6 December 2019 17: 27
    Iron fart ... good technique!
    1. -1
      6 December 2019 20: 05
      Quote: Sheptun
      Iron fart ... good technique!

      No wonder the domes are closed there, it means they feel that soon ... hehe
  18. +1
    6 December 2019 17: 29
    Quote: Salieri
    Quote: Kirill Dou
    At least Israeli systems have been tested by battle. Similar Russian systems have nothing to brag about in this regard.

    Kirill Dou, do not write your childish illiterate babble if you do not understand air defense and missile defense systems.

    Write correctly. Do not write. If you really stand in the program, you will be fired. And if so, for a red word, then we laugh ..
    1. -6
      6 December 2019 17: 49
      Quote: Shahno
      Write correctly. Do not write. If you really stand in the program, you will be fired. And if so, for a red word, then we laugh ..

      Shahno, Israeli literate, learn Russian and learn how to correctly and correctly express yourself. It is completely unclear what kind of program it is? Now I will laugh at you and not only.
  19. +2
    6 December 2019 17: 33
    Quote: Tusv
    Quote: Kirill Dou
    I focus on reliable facts. There are facts of the combat use of Israeli air defense systems. There are no facts of using similar Russian systems.

    If the air defense does not fire, this does not mean that the system is not working and there are no facts of use. It's just not rockets that are being met, but fighters. And quite successfully we direct the flyers to inconspicuous targets. Shouts of "unprofessional interception" are constantly heard. For you, this is not a fact of combat use?
    By the way, the Carapace solves the same tasks as the Iron Dome, and combat statistics are at least no worse.
    And then, the article is about radars. I suspect that in the Czech Republic there are two-dimensional radars: P-12, P-18 and P-15. The last stealth does not see point blank

    Yes, it is about radars ..
  20. +1
    6 December 2019 17: 47
    Quote: volodimer
    Sergei is right, the Patriots! At the same time, defense spending will be raised to the required percentage.
    And the fact that they have all that they have left is "Made in USSR", here on the VO there was a review on the aviation of the Czech Air Defense, I think there is a similar situation with regard to the air defense system, the most recent is 86-89. Of course outdated, no one will argue here.

    So no one argues. The question is what they choose and why ..
  21. +1
    6 December 2019 17: 58
    Quote: Salieri
    Quote: Shahno
    Write correctly. Do not write. If you really stand in the program, you will be fired. And if so, for a red word, then we laugh ..

    Shahno, Israeli literate, learn Russian and learn how to correctly and correctly express yourself. It is completely unclear what kind of program it is? Now I will laugh at you and not only.

    Well, go ahead, I'm waiting .. wassat
  22. -2
    6 December 2019 18: 02
    Quote: Tusv
    Shouts of "unprofessional interception" are constantly heard.
    - can you give an example?
  23. 0
    6 December 2019 18: 03
    Air defense experts, explain why this Israeli prodigy is better than Soviet radars or their Russian counterparts?
    1. +4
      6 December 2019 19: 39
      Quote: TermNachTER
      Air defense experts, explain why this Israeli prodigy is better than Soviet radars or their Russian counterparts?

      Marketing
    2. -2
      6 December 2019 20: 24
      Termi NahTer (Nikolai), Israeli Wunderwaffe inferior Russian SAM "Pantsir-S1", "Buk-M3" according to one of the main parameters - the probability of hitting a target with the Iron Dome p = 0,9 (1 target - 2 missiles), for our complexes this indicator is p = 0,9999 (1 target - 1 missile). The speed of the Tamir Iron Dome anti-aircraft missile is V = 300 m / s, the maximum speed of the 57E6-E "Pantsir-S1" anti-aircraft missile is V = 1300 m / s, the maximum speed of the 9M317M "Buk-M3" anti-aircraft missile is V = 1550 m / s. When hitting higher-speed targets and catching up, the Iron Dome again loses to the Russian air defense systems: Pantsiru-S1 and Buk-M3.
      Regarding the old Soviet complexes - complexes are not indicated in the article. In view of its elemental base (EEC), technical solutions and parameters, Soviet complexes are inferior to the Iron Dome, nothing can be done, everything flows (time) - everything changes and develops!
      1. +2
        6 December 2019 20: 55
        Well, as I understand it, we are talking about general-purpose radars, and not about air defense systems and their guidance stations.
        1. -3
          6 December 2019 21: 15
          Quote: TermNachTER
          Well, as I understand it, we are talking about general-purpose radars, and not about air defense systems and their guidance stations.

          TermsNahTer! The conversation was completely about some parameters of the complexes and anti-aircraft missiles as part of the complex, the parameters of the detection radar and the guidance radar, I did not touch. It is not entirely correct to compare "Pantsir-C1" with the Iron Dome - the radar detection range is different. Yes, and the parameters of Israeli radars are difficult to search on the Internet - there is no exact data, as well as on our radars.
    3. -1
      6 December 2019 23: 50
      There are no such specialists! There is the concept of VUS, everyone learns to work in their place, the rest is done by other VUS. I studied at C-300 as a launcher, but how the whole system in general works, not a single foot.
    4. -1
      7 December 2019 00: 06
      How the systems as a whole work, only the main designers know ... the rest is just show-offs .... believe me ....
  24. +3
    6 December 2019 18: 09
    How everything has changed. In the early 80s in Pardubice, our specialists under my leadership restored the Tesla plant. We did this to release landing and track locators for all Warsaw Pact countries. A guidance radar was also launched there. What charming places there are. Wild pheasants and hares were running at the source of the Laba. They were not afraid of anyone. We admired them.
    The Vice Prime Minister of the country once invited me to see the surroundings of Hutna Gora. I was amazed. And the monastery there is simply unique.
    1. -2
      6 December 2019 21: 56
      What were you rebuilding in the early 80s?
      Can you even recall at which airport in Czechoslovakia Přesný přibližovací radar RP-4G was tested?

      And not Khutny Hora, it would be Tasty Mountain, but Kutná Hora, from the word kutat - to mine ore.
      1. +1
        6 December 2019 23: 53
        Funny nit-picking ... as they called, they called it ...
    2. 0
      7 December 2019 09: 59
      Quote: midshipman
      our specialists under my leadership restored the Tesla enterprise.
      Ndaaa, and aren’t you the Arabs who erected something there? But the Jews bam, and still explain. So the Czechs decided to buy from the Jews. By dialectic, your beloved.
  25. +5
    6 December 2019 18: 15
    Quote: author
    Israeli Ministry of Defense Signs Agreement with your Czech colleagues

    what a disgusting word introduced into political circulation by "our"
    a colleague is a person with whom you work or study together, as well as a person of the same profession.
    Well, what can be colleagues Israeli Defense Ministry and Czech Defense Ministry?
    editor-in-chief of TopWar, a writer ... obviously "that"
    1. +12
      6 December 2019 20: 23
      Colleague hi Well, and corrosive. good

      So wear shoulder straps that you don’t like - I’m also harmful. Yes
      1. +5
        6 December 2019 20: 40
        Quote: Svarog51
        Well, and corrosive

        Yesterday in St. Petersburg they drank .. right up to 3 o'clock "sevodnya"
        1. +12
          6 December 2019 20: 59
          Well, well, at least I remembered and was not offended. feel There is also time for harassment ... to put thoughts in order. Yes
          Py, Sy. Epaulettes to stop loving on the site is now very simple - someone has a choice of pluses or minuses - and happiness will fly to you immediately. Orders are now issued less often, more often shoulder straps are removed. New trends.
          1. -7
            6 December 2019 22: 14
            Quote: Svarog51
            Well, well, at least I remembered and was not offended. There is also time for harassment ... to put thoughts in order.

            young man)) type caught on a thought, a recruiter of brains ...)) Type, not for nothing .....
            Quote: Svarog51
            Epaulettes to stop loving on the site is now very simple - someone has a choice of pluses or minuses - and happiness will fly to you immediately. Orders are now issued less often, more often shoulder straps are removed. New trends.

            You have confused something))))) He’s not in any way for you, neither by the level of development, nor by - / + creative people are not subject to you, the recruiters are bad))) He has your epaulettes, like yours - / + !!! Why are you so funny ... to the point of sadness ... You really did not understand anything .... what kind of damn "shoulder straps", what statuses do you have in the sect, what kind of mania of summit conquerors? What is it? So the little boy Anton licked it, so he's been in opposition all his life, when you didn't smell of mulberry)))) RZHUNEMAGU))))
          2. -8
            7 December 2019 01: 16
            Quote: Svarog51
            and happiness will fly to you immediately

            And you all have one happiness, to get a kamuy, then right there, when he comes "himself", to arrange for his children at the expense of the children of others, he also put on a cut for the grandchildren ..., I hope, a bonus, that is?
            From the reality novel
            "And the last drop fell, and a faceted glass of patience, poured on the 20th year, overflowing with the mountain, was spilled. And sweaty, gloomy, tastelessly dressed people went out into the streets and went to speak with the authorities. On the way they killed policemen, took away weapons in the regional departments, and whoever didn’t have enough, he took up arms in the nearest hunting store. Nobody shouted, but everyone went quickly, the goal was the Main room where he was sitting.
            He, this is the one whom they believed and loved, with whom they pinned their hopes and trusted, who were forgiven for failures and rudeness, spared in Russian, not noticing a snake smile, mean life to the Main room, vindictiveness, greed for money, luxury and power.
            He didn’t even betray them, because he didn’t promise them anything, but, if he did, he promised not to them, but to completely different, significant people!
            - For what, what do they need from me ?! Where is the guard ?! he thought behind the closed door of the Main Room ...
            The guards escaped because they did not want to give their lives for him, because each guard had a son who studied at a security school to protect someone, but neatly, without risk, for decent money.
            When they broke the beautiful door to the Main room, they saw a dead, small, worthless man in wet pants, and a crying mask froze on his rat face, pumped with botex.
            After this event, another, good and honest life began.
            1. +11
              7 December 2019 01: 44
              Quote: Stroporez
              And you all have one happiness, to get a kamuy, then there is the right, when "himself" comes, to arrange for his children at the expense of the children of others, he also put on a cut for his grandchildren ...., I hope, a bonus, that is?

              What a fantastic nonsense. Bluing is evil. negative
              1. -7
                7 December 2019 02: 41
                Quote: LiSiCyn
                What a fantastic nonsense. Bluing is evil.

                Kamrad! This is just a thesis cut of one of the characters of a wet sect))) And about the blue, I only know that!
                1. +10
                  7 December 2019 15: 24
                  I still didn't understand what they were trying to convey with their comments ... Everything was mixed in him. "Horses, people .."
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  From the reality novel
                  "And the last drop fell, and the faceted glass of patience, poured in the 20th year, overflowing with the mountain, was spilled. And sweaty, gloomy, tasteless people took to the streets, and went to talk to the authorities. On the way, they killed the police, took away weapons in the regional departments, and whoever did not have enough, he took a weapon in the nearest hunting store.

                  This is the second part, which was then added ... Question, write it yourself? Or copy-paste? If you yourself, then "sweaty, gloomy and tastelessly dressed" in one person are homeless people or scourges, as they used to be called ... They have zero chances.)))
                  If copy-paste, then the author "re-read" Orwell ... And it would be more suitable, to those books and by that time.
                  By the way, calls for a violent overthrow of power are fraught ... Think about it.
                  1. -6
                    7 December 2019 16: 14
                    Quote: LiSiCyn
                    By the way, calls for a violent overthrow of power are fraught ... Think about it.

                    Now I know that you are trustworthy and loyal and we can rely on you! We will work together.
                    1. +7
                      7 December 2019 16: 41
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      We will work together

                      Eh ... "This groan is called a song" (c).

                      Inspired, ring laughing
                    2. +9
                      7 December 2019 17: 28
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      Now I know that you are trustworthy and loyal and we can rely on you! We will work together.

                      What the .... belay This is such humor ??
                      Well, from the series, O. Bender ... Or do you really have this in your head? You, delirious in every comment, then Afghan, then landing, then appeals, then conspiracy, then there is something, and sometimes "SOMEONE" ... wassat
                      Read for yourself what you wrote above ...! Only from the first comment. wink stop
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      We will work together.

                      I definitely won’t work with you. No.
                      I hate drunken, I can not ... negative And I can’t stand in twins who also “speak with their tongues”. negative negative
                      1. +8
                        8 December 2019 05: 24
                        Stas hi Do not pay attention, such are present on each site. Enjoy if they pay attention. Otherwise, they are choked with their own poison. Energetic vampire. request
  26. Maz
    -1
    6 December 2019 18: 19
    Quote: Kirill Dou
    The argument "they don't tell you everything" has the same value as "The ways of the Lord are inscrutable." That is, zero.

    I focus on reliable facts. There are facts of the combat use of Israeli air defense systems. There are no facts of using similar Russian systems.

    Quote: professor
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: professor
    Let's see the statistics. How many flew? How many shot down?

    And then there is nothing to watch. There was only ONE "breakthrough" in the first raid. All others are reflected.

    Did they tell you that? One of one? One in a million?

    Professor, and tell you what is going on in Gushdan during the shelling? And no dome rescues from panic and fear.
    1. +2
      6 December 2019 19: 03
      Quote: Maz
      to tell what is going on in gushdan during the shelling?
      Come on, please tell me. It’s very interesting where you are running.
    2. -2
      6 December 2019 19: 16
      Quote: Maz
      no dome rescues from panic and fear.

      From panic and fear "Kupol" cannot save, it is designed to destroy short-range missiles and mortar shells. request But without him, there would have been much more panic and fear.
    3. +7
      6 December 2019 19: 47
      Quote: Maz
      Quote: Kirill Dou
      The argument "they don't tell you everything" has the same value as "The ways of the Lord are inscrutable." That is, zero.

      I focus on reliable facts. There are facts of the combat use of Israeli air defense systems. There are no facts of using similar Russian systems.

      Quote: professor
      Quote: svp67
      Quote: professor
      Let's see the statistics. How many flew? How many shot down?

      And then there is nothing to watch. There was only ONE "breakthrough" in the first raid. All others are reflected.

      Did they tell you that? One of one? One in a million?

      Professor, and tell you what is going on in Gushdan during the shelling? And no dome rescues from panic and fear.

      I can tell. In 2014, my office was just opposite the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff (from Ichilov, MAZ) An alarm was announced. My wife and I looked out of the window - the bus stopped abruptly, from which 11 people got out. 3 of them (girls) quickly ran into the building. The remaining 8 people (among them 2 women) stood next to the bus pulling out smartphones - they hoped to capture the interception)).
      MAZ - is your balabyte (boss, boss - Hebrew) afraid during anxieties or does he rarely appear at work?
    4. 0
      6 December 2019 23: 50
      Quote: Maz
      And no dome rescues from panic and fear.

      And have you tried?
      Advise!
      1. +5
        7 December 2019 15: 43
        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
        Quote: Maz
        And no dome rescues from panic and fear.

        And have you tried?
        Advise!

        Genesi - Only Paradis
        Well, before him there is still cool - forgot the name
        If XO - then Martel
    5. 0
      7 December 2019 19: 03
      Quote: Maz
      Professor, and tell you what is going on in Gushdan during the shelling? And no dome rescues from panic and fear.

      You better show the video. There is no faith in your tales. And then I'll show you the video.
  27. +3
    6 December 2019 18: 36
    No, well, what? Israel is kosher ...
  28. 0
    6 December 2019 18: 47
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    In the Czech Republic, migrants from the Middle East are not particularly. Only Russians and Ukrainians

    Migrants in the fall count. Has Italy been baptized into a Muslim? Sweden? The Germans organized a brigade in a row for the construction of mosques. Everything is just beginning .....
    1. +2
      6 December 2019 22: 02
      England, France, Germany, Italy disarmed. But here, citizens are allowed to own a combat and short barrels, and carbines, and rifles, only semi-automatic machines. Migrants do not rush to us,
  29. -3
    6 December 2019 18: 54
    Quote: opus
    Quote: Starper-777
    And who are these colleagues interesting? Surnames can be in the studio .. heh heh

    IAI's Yoav Tourgeman (as well as executive vice president and the CEO of Elta)

    retired brig. Gen. Yair Kulas (the one on the right)

    This agreement will deepen and strengthen cooperation and relations with our Czech partners.

    from the Czechs (second from left (don't know him) and the far right: Lubomír metnar)

    sorry... and for what purpose are you interested in?
    Want to (in the meaning of No. 1 of course) do you want them? Addresses to give?

    Does she do circumcision to whom?
  30. +5
    6 December 2019 18: 54
    Quote: Bindyuzhnik
    Quote: 4ekist
    Nobody should be trusted. EVERYONE LIES.

    Even General Konashenkov? lol

    Nope. He does not finish ..
  31. 0
    6 December 2019 19: 00
    These radars, gallium nitride (GaN). In addition to outstanding characteristics, Czechs are given the technology they are interested in and 30% of the main receiving and transmitting modules, they will assemble themselves.
  32. +2
    6 December 2019 19: 08
    Quote: valeryb
    Quote: Maz
    to tell what is going on in gushdan during the shelling?
    Come on, please tell me. It’s very interesting where you are running.

    We both sat in the cafe and sat, a hundred people. I haven’t seen a panic. Sirens squealed, and people drink beer. .This kind of people think not to scare. I'm used to it. And everyone understands everything.
    1. +5
      6 December 2019 19: 52
      In 2014, opposite Assuta (Ramat Khayal), they sat drinking with a client while his wife had surgery. So we were asked to go into the room several times - we entered with a glass and a drink)) When we got out, we saw that sparrow sparrows are pecking right on the table laughing
    2. +1
      7 December 2019 10: 08
      Quote: Shahno
      .This kind of people think not to scare. I'm used to it. And everyone understands everything.
      So then you, not Maz. This sky drapes ajnik portki fall and smoke.
  33. +1
    6 December 2019 19: 35
    Quote: Krasnodar
    Quote: Uncle Izya
    You are still considered a goy in Israel, you can not be a lawyer even though you are 1000% Jewish))
    In Syria, the armor and the Torah every day I bring down something

    If his mother is a non-Jew, then yes
    If you ask if this excites anyone in Israel, except for the rabbis before the ritual ceremonies, then no)).

    Goi .. This is all contrived. But for some reason, our Russian colleagues here are very worried.
    My wife is goy, what's next. I’ll look at that rabbi who pokes me in the face with this ..
    1. +9
      6 December 2019 20: 07
      Quote: Shahno
      Quote: Krasnodar
      Quote: Uncle Izya
      You are still considered a goy in Israel, you can not be a lawyer even though you are 1000% Jewish))
      In Syria, the armor and the Torah every day I bring down something

      If his mother is a non-Jew, then yes
      If you ask if this excites anyone in Israel, except for the rabbis before the ritual ceremonies, then no)).

      Goi .. This is all contrived. But for some reason, our Russian colleagues here are very worried.
      My wife is goy, what's next. I’ll look at that rabbi who pokes me in the face with this ..

      Because in the 90s they listened to Agatha Christie:

      About decadence random encounters
      Table preference burning candles
      A record is put on the gramophone
      Goyim sit and listen to sting

      Splashing rum and cocaine
      Yellow fingers in thin nostrils
      You offer to leave together
      Late sweet lady late

      Breathe in the ear what's around the corner
      Black shiny Rolls Royce awaits us
      He will take us to the airport
      Languid road of scattered roses

      And there, your dear airplane
      Scary wild marvelous bird.
      Dozing pilot, he dreams of a cancan
      He calls us in a hurry

      The morning rays warmed the east
      Well, you cried out Well, you flew
      But the jet is crimson my face
      Suddenly it lit up and you turned pale

      How did you scream that you are a Jew
      Ah, it would be better if my heart was pierced by a bullet
      You ruined me you are a villain
      You cheated you cheated

      You poisoned my maiden brain
      You trampled my edelweiss
      So get out steam. You are a monster.
      Shave your Asian pees

      I answered you Madame you are a cocotte
      Fallen woman miserable goysha
      So fly away you are lonely
      We have nothing more to talk

      I'll be back where they eat death
      And draw life from crystal glasses
      Where nothing is impossible
      Yes it’s a little but it’s a lot

      There's decadence random encounters
      The sun extinguishes unnecessary candles
      I’ll put a record on the gramophone
      And shoot myself to the music of Sting
  34. +3
    6 December 2019 22: 12
    Quote: L-39NG
    England, France, Germany, Italy disarmed. But here, citizens are allowed to own a combat and short barrels, and carbines, and rifles, only semi-automatic machines. Migrants do not rush to us,

    Is that really so? Cold climate, cold attitude of local people, lack of work, low wages for those who have settled, no allowances and benefits.
    A wife’s friend on the Internet, a Russian, who has long lived in Sweden, writes that they are no longer accessible from small towns. They do not work, the allowance goes on, strikes are organized, they demand the construction of mosques. Would try with us. Would be cut into pieces quickly. It’s difficult to feed their own, but here are freebies ..... And the current situation is flowers. Family reunification law works there. That is, the Arab is already a Swede, having received citizenship, will bring all his own, and he has two dozen of them ..... And the authorities have nothing to do.
  35. +1
    8 December 2019 12: 17
    Czech Republic buys Israeli radars to replace "obsolete" Russian - where does the article say so?
    1. 0
      8 December 2019 13: 12
      You are behind the times. Inconsistency of the text of the article title - it is modern, stylish, youth
      1. +1
        8 December 2019 13: 49
        Thank. All according to the precepts of Goebels ((((

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