Egypt Air Force MiG-29 crashes during training flight

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Egypt Air Force MiG-29 crashes during training flight

In Egypt, the MiG-29M Egyptian Air Force fighter crashed, the pilot managed to eject. This was reported by Vedomosti, citing sources in the Russian defense industry.

According to the publication, the Egyptian MiG-29M fighter performed a training flight, during which it crashed. According to preliminary information, the fighter pilot managed to eject, but at the moment there is no specific information about his state of health. No other details of the incident are given.



On Thursday, December 5, in Egypt, during a training flight, one of the MiG-29M fighters crashed by Russia for the Egyptian Air Force as part of the 2016 commercial contract was crashed

- writes the edition.

According to the sources of the publication, representing the Russian defense industry, the probable cause of the crash could be technical malfunctions in the integrated control system of a fighter or pilot's actions. The cause of the crash will be established by a special commission of the Egyptian Air Force. Russia will soon send experts to Egypt to assist in the investigation of the incident.

It is noted that this is the second crash of the MiG-29M fighter from those delivered to Egypt under the 2016 contract of the year. The first MiG-29M crashed on 3 on November 2018, with no official reason for the incident.
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    1. -4
      December 5 2019
      It was necessary first to prepare the pilots, and then deliver the aircraft.
      1. +4
        December 5 2019
        The 29th is not important statistics. It is regrettable to admit, but something is wrong with him.
        Since 1986 for various reasons, more than 40 boards were lost as a result of accidents and disasters, of course, some of them were by mistake of the pilot, but still.
        1. -3
          December 5 2019
          We live in a society of developed parasitism.
          Do not be surprised if something is wrong with the technique.
          The reliability of modern Russian electronics and mechanics is poor .....
          1. +14
            December 5 2019
            First, your statement is debatable.
            And secondly, what does this have to do with the news? Or you need to throw it on the fan, and the reader himself will think up everything and come to the conclusions which we need?
            1. +4
              December 5 2019
              Of course it's debatable. And what conclusions of the commission are already, that the pilot is guilty?
              At work, he was connected with issues of ensuring reliability .... Many are not happy.
              1. +4
                December 5 2019
                "" It is noted that this is already the second crash of the MiG-29M fighter from those supplied to Egypt under the 2016 contract. The first MiG-29M crashed on November 3, 2018, the official cause of the incident was not reported. "" that's alarming!
                1. +2
                  December 5 2019
                  Especially the fact that if my memory serves me right, the failure of technology was found to be the culprit of the crash of 2018.
              2. +1
                December 5 2019
                Quote: prior
                Of course it's debatable. And what conclusions of the commission are already, that the pilot is guilty?
                At work, he was connected with issues of ensuring reliability .... Many are not happy.

                Are you suggesting that we think CRITICALLY? !!!
                )
        2. +1
          December 5 2019
          A possible cause of the crash could be technical malfunctions in the integrated fighter control system

          But this aircraft does not have a CDS in the control system, everything is simple because there is mechanical wiring. Aircraft may crash due to problems with the power plant. Our engine is Russian, and the control systems for the engine and its modes (BPK-88) were Ukrainian (more precisely, Soviet, but were produced in Ukraine). I wonder how the health of these regulators is ensured. So many cases of counterfeit products ...
          1. 0
            December 5 2019
            In addition, the aircraft has a ridiculous combat radius and fuel runs out quickly if it is not controlled ... The plane constantly flies with an outboard fuel tank and it is almost never removed ...
            1. +3
              December 5 2019
              Quote: VO3A
              and the fuel runs out quickly if it is not controlled ..

              Curious, what kind of engineering-navigational calculation is this?
              And if you control, it turns out that does not end quickly?
            2. 0
              December 6 2019
              Quote: VO3A
              In addition, the aircraft has a funny combat radius

              What radius for similar cars will not make you laugh?
              1. -1
                December 6 2019
                More than 1000 km! And for ships more than 1200 km. In order not to fall, if necessary, go to the second round. Do you remember?
          2. -2
            December 5 2019
            Quote: VO3A
            A lot of cases of counterfeit products ...

            In Ukraine....
            1. -1
              December 6 2019
              Yes, and in Russia, too, enough. According to the lists of blocks in criminal cases, you can study the composition of blocks on an airplane ...
          3. +1
            December 5 2019
            Quote: VO3A
            But this aircraft does not have a CDS in the control system, everything is simple because there is mechanical wiring.

            Take an interest in the purpose of KSU-941.
        3. 0
          December 5 2019
          35 years old, 40 aircraft. 1,15pcs / year. Where to yell request guard?
          1. 0
            December 5 2019
            Firstly, nobody shouts the guard, and secondly, only 1 pc. per year in peacetime is not enough for you?
            Thirdly, if it’s really interesting, read how many pilots crashed. This is all certainly subjective, and if this is normal for you, then for others it may not.
            Objective assessment can give pilots and techniques that are in the subject. I’m not one of them, so we read what they write.
            1. -1
              December 5 2019
              It is probably difficult for you to read what was written below, I will help. hi
              Pavel57 (Gf) Today, 17:17
              The Indians MiG-29 is not the most emergency aircraft.
              bober1982 (vladimir) Today, 17: 25
              MiG-29 was never an emergency plane, the machine is reliable.
              1. 0
                December 5 2019
                Apparently difficult .. And since it turns out that it’s easy for you to do this, let’s put the other comments where the look is a little diametrical.
                I have no desire to belittle the 29th, but accidents have been happening quite often lately, and this is unfortunately a fact.
          2. +1
            December 5 2019
            Somewhere there were statistics on the F-16 from 1993 to 2002. Lost 139 aircraft. 249 dead. How much each person can easily calculate per year ... yes, the statistics are not very relevant, but the rate of eye loss has not changed much until today. Over this year alone, about 6 accidents happened to this aircraft.
            1. +1
              December 5 2019
              They released about 5 thousand.
              1. 0
                December 6 2019
                Quote: voyaka uh
                They released about 5 thousand

                So what? Does it somehow justify? 671 aircraft, an impressive figure in itself, regardless of how many were released.
        4. 0
          December 5 2019
          Egyptian MiG-29M fighter of the Egyptian Air Force crashed

          What kind of MiG-29M are we talking about? It is necessary to clarify .. In the Wiki it is written that 6 aircraft were released for testing. Very interesting! Who in the know ... Went to search ...
        5. 0
          December 5 2019
          Quote: maxim947
          The 29th is not important statistics. It is regrettable to admit, but something is wrong with him.
          Since 1986 for various reasons, more than 40 boards were lost as a result of accidents and disasters, of course, some of them were by mistake of the pilot, but still.

          However, the headline about the F-16 mentioned the word "next" yesterday or the day before yesterday. Then I thought that such a “trick” is inappropriate, because there will not be and will not be serial aircraft that do not have a “next”, regardless of the flag.
        6. 0
          December 6 2019
          Quote: maxim947
          Since 1986 for various reasons, more than 40 boards were lost as a result of accidents and disasters, of course, some of them were by mistake of the pilot, but still.

          What can I say about the F-16, which lost 671 aircraft and killed 208 pilots. There is definitely something wrong with him.
      2. +1
        December 5 2019
        Usually pilots are trained at us, only they in Russia manage to sit by the lane
    2. +2
      December 5 2019
      A new plane, the worst if it is a problem with the equipment. ..
      1. +1
        December 5 2019
        Where did you see the new plane? We do 1 MiG-35 per year ... The most interesting thing is that the MiG-35 was illegally adopted and the state testing program was not actually completed ... The 4th testing machine was never built at all ... If the plant can't build a test aircraft, how will he produce serial aircraft? One plane each year?
        1. 0
          December 5 2019
          Quote: VO3A
          Where did you see the new plane? We do 1 MiG-35 per year ... The most interesting thing is that the MiG-35 was illegally adopted and the state testing program was not actually completed ... The 4th testing machine was never built at all ... If the plant can't build a test aircraft, how will he produce serial aircraft? One plane each year?

          Contract 2016 for 46 cars in Egypt. A new plane crashed in fact. RSK MiG is ready to supply the MiG-35 for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation without advance payment, since it can produce more than is currently needed for the Russian Aerospace Forces, since there is not enough money for everything.
          On Thursday, December 5, in Egypt, during a training flight, one of the MiG-29M / M2 fighters crashed (in fact, this is the former name of the MiG-35), delivered by Russia to the Egyptian Air Force as part of a commercial contract from 2016.


          The cause of the incident could be either technical malfunctions in the integrated fighter control system, or incorrect pilot actions.



          This is the second accident of the MiG-29M / M2, which is in service with the Egyptian Air Force: the first plane was lost on November 3, 2018, then the commission found that the cause of the crash of the fighter was a problem in its control system.

          The Egyptian contract for the MiG-29M / M2 is one of the largest aviation contracts of the last five years: 46 aircraft cost the Egyptian Air Force about $ 2,5 billion. All of them will be equipped with the latest optical-location stations OLS-UE, hanging sighting containers, as well as a small-sized station electronic jamming of SMEs.

          http://in24.org/incidents/37973
          1. +1
            December 5 2019
            A very interesting point .. This is the second MiG-29M / M2 aircraft that crashed in Egypt. These two new aircraft, obviously, were under warranty service. If it is established that the crash occurred due to a technical reason during warranty operation, Russia will have to supply 2 new aircraft for free ....
        2. +1
          December 5 2019
          And who said that the MiG-35 is already in service?
          1. 0
            December 5 2019
            A contract has been signed for the serial production of 6 aircraft until 2023! They did not know. The Su-57 is resting in terms of production rates, it is much faster than the "new", "unique" MiG-35 ..., which has been supplied to Egypt for a long time under the guise of MiG-29M / M2 and successfully falls there during the warranty period. .. Forgot to re-stick the labels with the names at the presentation of the MiG-35, with the MiG-29M booklets ....
            Read:
            http://bastion-karpenko.ru/mig-29m2/
            1. 0
              December 5 2019
              You do not understand me a little. Formality is a formality and no one has accepted the 35th MiG into service (is it legal or not). This case is from the category of ordinary practice, I remind you that the story with the Su-35 was almost the same: serial aircraft began to arrive even before the end of all fuel and lubricants, and before that there were still similar examples with other aircraft.
        3. 0
          December 6 2019
          Quote: VO3A
          Where did you see the new plane? We do 1 MiG-35 per year ... The most interesting thing is that the MiG-35 is illegally adopted and the state test program is actually not completed.

          Illegally adopted? This is something new))))) I think you deserve the first place by giving this pearl) Before that, the funniest thing I heard was the statement by a young nugget that Polikarpov needed to get intellectual property rights on the MiG-3.
          1. 0
            December 6 2019
            Not new, but old. Before the war, Yakovlev could not pass the acceptance of the Yak-1 deficiency, the plane did not meet the requirements of the customer, and first of all according to the combat radius .. The young talent, who held a high post, dispersed the acceptance in the Air Force, and replaced the experienced engineers with manual ones .... This poor, a crude, unfinished aircraft was produced already in 3 factories, and even newer more flexible specialists did not accept the aircraft as not meeting the requirements ....
            And Polikarpov, with his best I-180 machine, couldn’t find either a factory for production or engines, and Yakovlev’s efforts brought him and his plane to a halt ...
    3. +2
      December 5 2019
      Every crash of a Russian aircraft is a blow to the image of our military-industrial complex, there are many complaints about the MiGs, I hope the concern will figure it out.
    4. 0
      December 5 2019
      Someone a couple of days ago amers joyfully squealed. Overpriced.
      1. 0
        December 5 2019
        Someone a couple of days ago amers joyfully squealed. Overpriced.


        Maybe we still feel sorry for them and sympathize with them ?!
        1. +2
          December 5 2019
          You can at least keep silent and, through your gloating, do not call your troubles ...
    5. +4
      December 5 2019
      People fly, the pilot is alive, it happens ....
    6. 0
      December 5 2019
      https://youtu.be/g918qkS8vuU
      1. 0
        December 5 2019
        I do not understand, and where does the Tu-160 flight to the MiG-29 crash in Egypt?
    7. +2
      December 5 2019
      The Indians MiG-29 is not the most emergency aircraft.
      1. +3
        December 5 2019
        MiG-29 was never an emergency plane, the machine is reliable.
        1. -1
          December 5 2019
          MiG-29 itself - yes. But they worked with him during the adoption of weapons even under the Soviet protocol.
          Everything was checked and double-checked, they did not spare money for revision and troubleshooting.
          But the MiG-29M is a product of a new time, alas.
        2. -1
          December 5 2019
          These are different planes. The MiG-29M was built back in the USSR with a CDU in the control channels with a new engine, with no upper air intakes and a large supply of fuel, another avionics ... 6 machines were built and tests were carried out from 1987 to 1993 ... the series did not go ... Now it has turned fabulously into a new MiG-35, while the MiG-29M / M2 is supplied to Egypt and then to Algeria. This is probably the same MiG-35 only in an expert version ... To confuse everyone, they confirm that this new MiG-35 will be produced in Lokhvitsy, Moscow region ... And they also remember the MiG29K / KUB naval aviation aircraft, on the basis of which the MiG was created -29M / M2 come from the same family ... It's just some kind of movie ... And if you believe that initially the MiG-29K, as Vika says, is a development of the MiG-23K, in general you can fall into a stupor ... We have a bunch of everyone trash, made back in the USSR and carefully disguised with a new avionics. And everything is thoroughly confused by the "Jewish" design bureau MIG .. Earlier in terms of content, today in spirit, or rather a kopeck piece ... Now it is clear why it was necessary to build a new production in Lokhvitsy. "new" MiG-35 ...
          1. +1
            December 6 2019
            Quote: VO3A
            Now it has turned fabulously into the new MiG-35,

            What do you have against the name MiG-35?
            Quote: VO3A
            .Now it has turned fabulously into the new MiG-35, while MiG-29M / M2 is delivered to Egypt and then to Algeria

            Do you know the list of differences MiG-29M, MiG-29K, MiG-29KUB, MiG-29M2, MiG-35, are you our expert fabulous?
            1. -2
              December 6 2019
              These are the same aircraft, only the decked marine package, folding wings, reinforced fuselage and struts, hook, anti-corrosion coating ..... And everyone still has a small radius, especially for sea ....
          2. +1
            December 6 2019
            Quote: VO3A
            production in Lokhvitsy

            N.p. called Lukhovitsy.
            1. -2
              December 6 2019
              I like the word "LOCH" at the beginning, a joke-humor like that ..
    8. +3
      December 5 2019
      The first MiG-29M crashed on November 3, 2018, the official cause of the incident was not reported.

      More than a year has passed, and there is no official reason, and the 29th after the crash, after a short pause, continued to fly. I conclude: the reason was not in the plane, but in something else. What will happen this time - I hope we find out.
    9. +7
      December 5 2019
      the network gives such an info, on August 17, 1978 the start of production of the f-16

      Wiki .- Since the start of operation, 671 F-16 Fighting Falcon crashes were recorded, killing 208 pilots and 98 people who were in the crash zones of this aircraft. Oddly enough, this sounds - the American Air Force was the most "distinguished", having lost 286 aircraft. F-16 combat losses for the entire time participating in local wars amounted to about 160 fighters ....
      What we have is 41 years of operation and somewhere around 16 cars a year at a loss ....
      Will we scream the guard, or is it another and then we need to understand?
      1. 0
        December 5 2019
        GABALIS (Dmitry), you need to look at the number of accidents per raid.
        1. +2
          December 5 2019
          https://vpk.name/news/28455_f-16_na_blyudechke_harizmatichnyi_no_avariinyi.html

          There is
      2. +1
        December 5 2019
        The timely figures for comparison are worth their weight in gold. Thank.
    10. 0
      December 5 2019
      Quote: Voyager
      Somewhere there were statistics on the F-16 from 1993 to 2002. Lost 139 aircraft. 249 dead. How much each person can easily calculate per year ... yes, the statistics are not very relevant, but the rate of eye loss has not changed much until today. Over this year alone, about 6 accidents happened to this aircraft.

      We need relative statistics. And so no fig is not clear.

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