Hungary promised not to let Ukraine into NATO

Hungary intends to continue blocking all attempts by Ukraine to join NATO until the rights of the Hungarian national minority living in Ukraine to study in their native language are restored. This was stated by Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Siyyarto at the NATO summit in London.

The head of the Hungarian Foreign Ministry promised to block Ukraine’s entry into the alliance, accusing Kiev of restricting the rights and freedoms of the Hungarian national minority, in particular, limiting the education in their native language, according to the law on education adopted in 2017. According to him. Hungary is ready to hold consultations with Kiev on the restoration of the rights of Ukrainian Hungarians.

We do not ask for any additional rights for the Hungarians in Transcarpathia, only those that they had before

- he said.

In turn, Kiev accuses Budapest of "separatist aspirations" to create a Hungarian enclave in Transcarpathia with plans for a future secession from Ukraine and reunification with Hungary.

Meanwhile, Ukraine is not going to cancel the scandalous education law adopted by Poroshenko, according to which all training in the country is conducted only in Ukrainian. In Kiev, they said that this law does not violate anyone’s rights, but rather helps ethnic minorities “integrate into Ukrainian society”.

Comments

[Vladimir16]

I respect the Hungarians for the fact that they have their own way of life!

Proclaimed that the family is the basis of society.
The pederasts have no place in Hungary.
Down with Eurovision!

Now here is no Ukraine.

I respect the small country where men live!

[RUSS]

Quote: Vladimir16

I respect the Hungarians for the fact that they have their own way of life!

Proclaimed that the family is the basis of society.
The pederasts have no place in Hungary.
Down with Eurovision!

Now here is no Ukraine.

I respect the small country where men live!

Cheap show-offs of Hungarians, Ukraine and so NATO does not shine, at least in the foreseeable future.

[Vladimir16]

Something I do not see similar "cheap show-off" from anyone else.

Does anyone else consider the family to be the foundation of society?
Someone else proclaims a state policy based on family values.
And this is at a time when the posers say that buggers are normal?
And this is at a time when in our Duma the buggers are pushing laws to undermine the value of the family.

Where did you see the "cheap show-offs"?

Or for you a family of "cheap show-offs", and gay parade and Eurovision with homosexuals at the head is the norm?

Ukraine has lost its human appearance. Hungarians have always said no to Ukraine. From the Maidan.

[RUSS]

Quote: Vladimir16

Where did you see the "cheap show-offs"?

In everything, Hungary is still allowed to behave this way, then dad will say what is possible and what is not, and Vityok Orban goes on about "European values" no one cares what the Hungarians think, but when there is a question about NATO, the Magyars will be shown their place.

[Vladimir16]

You predict.
And the actions of Orban are the opposite of your predictions.
The facts are different.

Or do you care about the actions of Orban? You know how it really is!

[orionvitt]

Quote: RUSS

Magyars will point to their place

If you haven't noticed, then the European Union is bursting at all the seams. If Orban boldly makes such statements that directly contradict the policy of Europe in the social sphere, where they are afraid to even vote against the "minorities" (I mean Eurovision), then he knows what he is doing and somehow knows better. ... As for Ukraine, everything is clear there for a long time. They will not even be allowed to enter Europe on a side chair.

[RUSS]

Quote: orionvitt

If you have not noticed, then the European Union is bursting at all seams.

I did not notice, with the exception of the protracted Brexit.

[Flooding]

Quote: Vladimir16

Or for you a family of "cheap show-offs", and gay parade and Eurovision with homosexuals at the head is the norm?

In June-July 2018, one and a half weeks of LGBT people walked around Budapest.
Has something changed this year?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Vladimir16

Or for you a family of "cheap show-offs", and gay parade and Eurovision with homosexuals at the head is the norm?
Ukraine has lost its human appearance. Hungarians have always said no to Ukraine. From the Maidan.

I agree with you. When human values ​​are replaced by a "coven of witches" and when these gay-European values ​​are being promoted on our TV and in the Duma, I would like to ask the government "Where are you, and why are you silent and doing nothing?" This is how it all began in the same Europe and America. And now in the United States since 2011, instead of mom and dad they say "parent number 1 and parent number 2". So who wants this in Russia, maybe someone is?

[Vladimir16]

Of course have.
The law is being promoted in the Duma.
Many people think that "they have it there, but it is not like this here". But then they yell at the Orthodox Church, which said NO to the law on domestic violence.

And buggers quietly push their evil spirits into our country.

People who deny Orthodoxy and Orthodox traditions risk living in a society where pederasts will rule.

There is no "in between".
Either we live in a society where the family dominates, or buggers will rule.

It's not about money, not about retirement. It's about the very foundations of our lives.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Vladimir16

People who deny Orthodoxy and Orthodox traditions risk living in a society where pederasts will rule.
There is no "in between".
Either we live in a society where the family dominates, or buggers will rule.

It is up to us to decide how to live with dad and mom, or with No. 1 and No. 2, and how much life will remain. It's time to dot the "I".

[210ox]

Not right. It shines even very much. Nobody will reckon with the Hungarians in NATO. They will make a decision over the ocean, they will. All these collective decisions and the impossibility of joining the alliance in the presence of territorial claims by a pitchfork are written.

[1976AG]

We have then thank God, too, HIS way of life. The question is that the Ukrainian authorities manage to quarrel with everyone. Poor Ukraine was surrounded by separatists!) "Helps the Hungarians to integrate." Is there no other way to help?

[Vladimir16]

Ukraine did not take place as a state.
Just no brains.
People who now rule in Ukraine mediocrity.
Greedy people cannot rule the state. They will sell everything they ask for. For them, power is a means of profit.

There is neither Pilsudsky nor Mannerheim in Ukraine. There are no educated people in power. I do not discuss Russophobia of the Pole and the Finnish, I am talking about education and the ability to create a country.

We have such "Ukrainians" a dime a dozen. It seems that the overwhelming majority of officials are just greedy people.
The saddest thing is that the school has become a haven for such people.
The directors often think about the loot, how to tear money off from their parents.

I pray to God that we would survive. What would our homeland survive the exam.

Otherwise, we will be bent.

[RUSS]

Quote: Vladimir16

Ukraine did not take place as a state.

This mantra is not rolling right now

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: RUSS

Quote: Vladimir16

Ukraine did not take place as a state.

This mantra is not rolling right now

Do you now write like this and at the same time look at the textbook on Theory of State and Law?
Or from the point of view of political science, which is responsible for half-tones, erosion of power institutions, etc.?

[RUSS]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Do you now write like this and at the same time look at the textbook on Theory of State and Law?
Or from the point of view of political science, which is responsible for half-tones, erosion of power institutions, etc.?

I look at the political map of the world and see Ukraine there, that’s enough for me, and what everyone thinks about the state’s viability is his personal right and opinion.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Vladimir16

Greedy people cannot rule the state. They will sell everything they ask for. For them, power is a means of profit.

And most of these people were educated in NATO countries.

[RUSS]

Quote: Vladimir16

Proclaimed that the family is the basis of society.

Hungary was one of the first countries where prostitution was legalized. Hungary has long become a very popular country for tourists. Every year more and more people come to Budapest, which in recent years has been a serious competitor to Amsterdam. The thing is that the Dutch capital is too expensive. Now in Hungary more than 15 thousand are simple ... ok, working legally. After the legalization, forgive me .. and in Hungary the number of ge .. in. According to recent studies, only in Budapest there are about 50-60 thousand of them. Many of them will forgive ... those who work for foreigners.

[bessmertniy]

They stopped producing "Ikarus", but they have to live on something, so they go to the panel - they work, so to speak.

[rocket757]

Hungary intends to continue blocking all attempts by Ukraine to join NATO until the rights of the Hungarian national minority are restored

Logically, purely their interests ... but from that, Svidomo rages less will not.
Although, they are up to NATO on foot to ......

[cniza]

There was information that they could take shame on Russia in an accelerated form in violation of all terms and conditions, so Hungary did not expect to be warned.

[RUSS]

Quote: cniza

There was information that they could take shame on Russia in an accelerated form in violation of all terms and conditions

This option is being worked out with Georgia.

[Ka-52]

This option is being worked out with Georgia.

only storytellers and Georgians and Ukrainians can believe in "options". Because the provision of the NATO Charter on territorial disputes was not born out of nowhere. It is interesting how the bloc would have reacted to the events of 2008 if Georgia at that time were a member of the alliance. Just don't start your silly round dance about "small but proud people" again.

[Brturin]

Quote: Ka-52

NATO territorial dispute clause born out of nowhere

yes, but the border between Russia and Estonia has not yet been resolved ...

[Ka-52]

yes, but the border between Russia and Estonia has not yet been resolved ...

Yes, everything is settled. There are no special claims to foreign territories there. The border line is defined, just the usual bureaucratic process is going on, politically prolonged. In comparison with Georgia and Ukraine does not go to any comparison.

[RUSS]

Quote: Ka-52

It’s interesting how the bloc would react to the events of 2008, if Georgia had been a member of the alliance at that time.

Georgia at that time could not be a member of NATO.

Quote: Ka-52

Just don't start your silly round dance about "small but proud people

You were wrong, I didn’t say that

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

that would spoil Russia can

They want, but can they ??? We will see.

[cniza]

These magicians and the Charter will change, but Hungary is a splinter.

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

These magicians and the Charter will change, but Hungary is a splinter.

We will see. The gay Europeans now have "club" showdowns.

[cniza]

There is such a very joyful event for us, let them bite.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

Although, they are up to NATO on foot to ..

Although for NATA they are oh what a tidbit "soldier on the blood".

[rocket757]

Quote: tihonmarine

Although for NATA they are oh what a tidbit "soldier on the blood".

According to svidomitosti and frostbite fit, at least the top ones! But to really fight, and not just "crow" from a distance, there is already much less of this!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

But to really fight, and not just "crow" from a distance, there is already much less of this!

They will fight, and even how, because Magyars will be in the detachments ..

[rocket757]

Quote: tihonmarine

They will fight, and even how, because Magyars will be in the detachments ..

So those, like, Svidomo in nature do not want?

[Victor_B]

So take a look who is closer to mother Russia, the Bulgarians who spoil as much as they can or the Hungarians (they hated us for a while), but they spoil Ukraine, to our advantage.

[1976AG]

Quote: Victor_B

So take a look who is closer to mother Russia, the Bulgarians who spoil as much as they can or the Hungarians (they hated us for a while), but they spoil Ukraine, to our advantage.

Do not confuse ordinary people with the government. For the sake of support of the states, the mother will sell her mother.

[Victor_B]

Quote: 1976AG

Do not confuse ordinary people with the government.

Come on you!
It's time to get used to the fact that the population still chooses these politicians.
But how to make / persuade / chat / cheat are already methods of influence.
(With a smart face ...) Social engineering. However!
Units of interest, well, let 10 percent of them there you can (where possible, but where not) to receive administrative resources and fraud, but the remaining 30-40-50% must be prayed for.

[1976AG]

We also choose. Only when we choose it turns out that not those. Not those who are trying for the people to improve their lives. Or did you yourself want to raise your retirement age? Or mumble in search of work?

[Victor_B]

Quote: 1976AG

We also choose. Only when we choose it turns out that not those.

Quote: Victor_B

But how to make / persuade / chat / cheat are already methods of influence.

These methods of fooling and creating the image of an angel in the flesh are worked out to instructions!
And they all operate on the same training manual.
So the flow on the left and right is almost the same.
Here it is for us / you / me to decide in the end who sang sweeter.

[1976AG]

Quote: Victor_B

Quote: 1976AG

We also choose. Only when we choose it turns out that not those.

Quote: Victor_B

But how to make / persuade / chat / cheat are already methods of influence.

These methods of fooling and creating the image of an angel in the flesh are worked out to instructions!
And they all operate on the same training manual.
So the flow on the left and right is almost the same.
Here it is for us / you / me to decide in the end who sang sweeter.

I don’t believe anyone for a long time, but if there’s no honest people, no matter who we vote for, anyway we’d better not

[Victor_B]

Quote: 1976AG

I don’t believe anyone for a long time, but if there are no honest people

Rarely, but there are exceptions.
In Vladivostok there was a mayor (later a deputy of the State Duma) Cherepkov. The man is certainly honest, but the system choked him with the dirtiest methods.
He won ALL elections, but he got the hang of being removed from the election last Friday before the vote. And that’s it! Repeatedly.

[1976AG]

Quote: Victor_B

Quote: 1976AG

I don’t believe anyone for a long time, but if there are no honest people

Rarely, but there are exceptions.
In Vladivostok there was a mayor (later a deputy of the State Duma) Cherepkov. The man is certainly honest, but the system choked him with the dirtiest methods.
He won ALL elections, but he got the hang of being removed from the election last Friday before the vote. And that’s it! Repeatedly.

You see, honest people in this system do not take root.

[Victor_B]

Quote: 1976AG

You see, honest people in this system do not take root.

But sometimes they fly.
And in general, even in honesty there is no black and white.
She has 50 shades of gray.

[Flooding]

Quote: 1976AG

We also choose. Only when we choose it turns out that not those.

I imagine a picture: they are writing at the American forum - do not confuse the Russian leadership with ordinary people. They do not support the tyranny of the Kremlin, etc.
Funny, is not it?
Politicians are chosen for their election rhetoric.
Yes, she is far from always sincere and honest.
But it always meets the expectations of voters.

[Wolf]

Victor

Come on you!
It's time to get used to the fact that the population still chooses these politicians.

In a modern "democratic" society, the population does not choose anything, this is a farce! Democracy is just an illusion of choice, the party wins the election in which there is enough money and all the other parties controlled by these who have money, etc. Viktor Orban accidentally came to power in Hungary. All over Europe 1. They saw the mistake and will not repeat it again.


As for the politics of Hungary and Ukraine and Romania, they all know very well about the language as the Massoni created the nation in the 18th and 19th centuries. Asimmilation through the violent use of MUSIC. Therefore, Porshenko insisted on the law on training in Ukrainian language. Hungary, for example, about 70% of the indigenous population of the SLAVES was assimilated through the language in the 18th, 19th century, etc. ... So the GERMAN nation was created !!! A German from the 18th century would not have understood THREADS ONE WORD of a German from the 20th century. The German language is completely artificial, as is English for the example, Romanian, etc.

[Wolf]

In Europe, few indigenous peoples have preserved their language. The Slavs themselves were a large PEOPLE in Europe, and this is why they managed to preserve their language, but politicians and their controlled language studies did everything possible to divide the Slavyansk language, etc. ...... For an example, Cyril and Methodi went to the Bible and preached Christianity from the Czech Republic to Russia and the people understood the words and language, today it is not possible.

[Wolf]

I quote approximately one Russian philosopher of the 19th century A PEOPLE that does not have information about themselves (language, tradition, culture, annals) begins to be fertilizer for the creation of other nations! And this is all the truth about the Slavic nation, and from somewhere new nations appeared in Europe such as German, etc.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 1976AG

For the sake of support of the states, the mother will sell her mother.

Well, not for free, they sell their mother.

[1976AG]

Well, if they SELL, then it’s not for free. Otherwise, they would have given it.

[Victor_B]

Quote: tihonmarine

Well, not for free, they sell their mother.

Sell ​​for free ...
I thought for a long time ...

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Victor_B

So take a look who is closer to mother Russia, the Bulgarians who spoil as much as they can or the Hungarians (they hated us for a while), but they spoil Ukraine, to our advantage.

The closest were always Serbs. But in the 90s EBN betrayed them with a clique. Well still E.M. Primakov the plane turned back. Therefore, a monument to Primakov was erected in Belgrade, not EBN.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Therefore, a monument to Primakov was erected in Belgrade, not EBN.

And EBN no one erected a monument, except for Estonians.

[solzh]

Quote: tihonmarine

And EBN no one erected a monument, except for Estonians.

From wikipedia:

The monument is located on Boris Yeltsin Street in the business quarter of Yekaterinburg City in the city center in front of the Demidov Plaza Congress Hall, which also houses the Yeltsin Memorial and Information Center for the Presidency, supervised by the Presidential Center Boris N. Yeltsin State Foundation and the Charitable Foundation Ural Center B. N. Yeltsin "(a branch of the Fund of the First President of Russia B. N. Yeltsin).
The monument is a ten-meter high white marble stela-obelisk with a full-length bas-relief of Yeltsin on a dark gray pedestal on the steps to the site in front of Demidov Plaza. It is noted that the image of Yeltsin is directed forward and with a look, and marble and the shape of the monument are in good agreement with the Ural climate.

As you can see, both the monument, the street, and even the whole Yeltsin center are available in this country to this eb ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: solzh

As you can see, both the monument, the street, and even the whole Yeltsin center are in this country in this country.

Yes, we all know, and this is a cancerous tumor on the body of Russia. I wanted to say that his EBN owners and friends have no monuments to the ghoul. They also do not like traitors and treat them with disgust. (Although for my words I was even physically beaten.)

[Andrey Chistyakov]

"As you can see, there is a monument, a street, and even a whole Yeltsin center in our country to this ebn."
You forgot to add. A XNUMX-hour security post is attached to this monument.
Protect from "people's love" ..

[RUSS]

Quote: Victor_B

So take a look who is closer to mother Russia, the Bulgarians who spoil as much as they can or the Hungarians (they hated us for a while), but they spoil Ukraine, to our advantage.

What are they spoiling there? On the contrary, the issuance of Hungarian passports was suspended, and many were previously issued with passports.

[knn54]

There are prospects, no deadlines ...
And what about the "closet" in Brussels now?

[cost]

Hungary has been blocking Ukraine-NATO Council meetings for several years
Hungary has long been dissatisfied with how Ukraine treats the Hungarian minority living in Transcarpathia - 150 thousand ethnic Hungarians are under the special care of Budapest. After the new Ukrainian law on education came into force two years ago, which reduced the possibility of studying in the languages ​​of national minorities, the position of the Hungarian authorities became even more rigid. Budapest uses its membership in NATO and the EU to put pressure on Kiev.
Moreover, since December 1, Hungary has a new instrument of influence on Ukraine. In the new European government, the European Commission, the post of European Commissioner for Enlargement and Neighborhood Policy (that is, relations with Ukraine in particular) was taken by the former representative of Hungary to the European Union, Oliver Varheli.

[awdrgy]

Magyars always and among all surrounding peoples were a splinter in one place, this is how it happened historically (a different cultural community came from a close-knit militant people) Austria-Hungary Romania the USSR, etc. at this stage this is the problem of Ukraine and then somebody else

[cniza]

That’s for sure, but where the language comes from - 26 cases ...

[Xenofont]

Our North, Khanty-Mansi: there are fewer cases, it is impossible!

[Fat]

Quote: Xenofont

Our North, Khanty-Mansi: there are fewer cases, it is impossible!

The language of the Finno-Ugric group. Finnish, Estonian, Udmurt, Mordovian (Moksha and Erzya), Izhora ...

[Xenofont]

The primary outcome area is the eastern Urals. In the process of migration to the west, everything else.

[Flooding]

Quote: awdrgy

different cultural community alien united warlike people

Bulgarians are not autochthon too. And also at one time they were very warlike.
If you look, it’s hard to find non-strangers in Europe.

[awdrgy]

However, the Bulgarians, due to various circumstances (wars of the conclusion of unions of assimilation and, most importantly, the Turkish conquest, ceased to be a mono-ethnic concentrate, Bulgaria's aggressiveness drops sharply). What we do not observe in Hungary, and if we observe it on a much smaller scale, the relatively high mono-ethnicity of Magyar society is actually a guarantor of traditional values ​​on the one hand and a problem for neighbors on the other

[Alex Justice]

[quote] [If you look, it's hard to find non-invaders in Europe. / quote]
We all came from Africa. Someone before, someone later.

[Flooding]

Quote: Alex Justice

We all came from Africa. Someone before, someone later.

This statement is still closer to the working version than to the proven fact.
I can be wrong.
And, of course, it was not about the times so long ago.
Because, if we look into such depths of the past, then we are almost blood brothers. And off the border.

[Alex Justice]

The fact is proved, but some do not like the idea that they were blacks.

[Flooding]

Quote: Alex Justice

The fact is proved, but some do not like the idea that they were blacks.

That's just no stupidity, please.
When do you think humanity came out of Africa?
And when did the Negroid race form?

[cniza]

In Kiev, they said that this law does not violate anyone's rights, but on the contrary helps national minorities "to integrate into Ukrainian society."

.... rolls over, they are told about the round, but they are not hotter ...

[rotmistr60]

The Hungarians are blocking Ukraine’s entry into NATO, which (accession) does not shine even in the imaginable future, are pushing to defend the rights of ethnic Hungarians living in Ukraine. But at least they openly declare this, and others with their claims to Ukraine are modestly silent, believing that they certainly should not be accepted, but Russia's opposition is higher.

[tihonmarine]

In turn, Kiev accuses Budapest of "separatist aspirations" to create a Hungarian enclave in Transcarpathia with plans for a future secession from Ukraine and reunification with Hungary.

Hungarians want to speak and teach their children in their native language, and not to indulge in surzhik.

[Sitearvi]

We must ask him to stand up for the Russian-speaking majority in Ukraine, otherwise, once ours, everyone is busy with the pipe.

[Lord of the Sith]

Hmm, but the Poles and Romanians do not have such problems as the Hungarians. There along the border it’s not even Russian, they don’t speak Ukrainian.

[Xenofont]

Just like Vysotsky: "- And our coach, ex- and vice-champion of ORUD,
He told me not to let me into the stadium - Judas! "

[Paul Siebert]

I never particularly loved the Hungarians.
Both world wars deliberately fought against us.
Fiercely, uncompromisingly.
No wonder the medal for Budapest is called "For the capture ...", and not "For the liberation ..."
And the events of 1956 of the year? ..
But here is the case when she found a scythe on a stone.
We infringed the rights of the Hungarians in Transcarpathia. For Magyars this is a slap in the face.
But this is not even the main thing. The Hungarian government and Siyyarto in particular understand that Ukraine is a war in NATO. Moreover - the world.
And here, flying time from Russia is minimal.
Ugric folded two and two. And they made a statement.

[mehan]

Well, to whom, and the Hungarians should be silent.
Not that they will remember what they did in the occupied territories.

[RUSS]

Quote: mehan

Well, to whom, and the Hungarians should be silent.
Not that they will remember what they did in the occupied territories.

There is no one to recall, Orban is almost a friend to us, and by the way, during the times of the USSR, the Hungarians also didn’t recall anything, but on the contrary they hushed up their deeds during the Second World War

[iouris]

Hungarians are well-known members of the Drang Nach Osten. It would be better if he promised not to let NATO into Ukraine.

[Tuzik]

Somehow too diplomatically, they would quietly bring in troops, while the APU in the east