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Serbia confirmed the purchase of the French Mistral-3 air defense system in two versions

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Serbia confirmed the purchase of the French Mistral-3 air defense system in two versions

The Ministry of Defense of Serbia has confirmed the purchase of two variants of the French Mistral-3 short-range anti-aircraft missile system developed by MBDA, the contract for which was signed in mid-July this year.


As previously reported, the Serbian military will receive a French air defense system in two versions: as a portable anti-aircraft missile system, as well as in the form of an integrated Serb production Pasars-16 integrated into a self-propelled anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) to provide air defense for armored and mechanized units directly in combat orders with the ability to hit ground targets.

The delegation of the Ministry of Defense of Serbia, at the invitation of the MBDA group, recently took part in the test firing at the Sardinian training ground with the use of the Mistral-3 air defense system, where it was convinced "of the quality of the ordered complex, as well as of the possibility of its integration into the national PASARS system".

Tests have shown that optoelectronic sensors can capture a target simulating a combat helicopter at a distance of more than 11 km. The target was successfully hit at a distance of more than 7 km.

MANPADS "Mistral" - developed by the French short-range air defense system, designed to engage air targets at altitudes up to 3 km. Unlike the first and second modifications, Mistral 3 missiles are capable of hitting not only low-flying targets, but also surface high-speed ones. It is highly resistant to passive and active electronic interference, can be used at any time of the day and in any weather.

What is important for the Serbs, the complex is integrated into various hybrid combat systems. With its help, Serbia wants to modernize the domestic PASARS-16 "Terminator" air defense missile system, which is a modified module armed with a Swedish 40 mm automatic anti-aircraft gun L70 Bofors and two launchers for launching RLN-IC missiles, which are a modification of the Soviet aviation R-13M (R-13M) air-to-air missiles.

Under the contract, Serbia acquires 18 launchers and 50 anti-aircraft guided missiles Mistral 3.
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  1. Starper-xnumx
    Starper-xnumx 4 December 2019 19: 03
    0
    We remember "misrali" in Russia, make no mistake Serbia!
    1. figwam
      figwam 4 December 2019 19: 06
      0
      Yes, it turns out Mistral is, as they say, two big differences.
      1. Starper-xnumx
        Starper-xnumx 4 December 2019 19: 32
        +1
        Quote: figvam
        Yes, it turns out Mistral is, as they say, two big differences.

        The supplier is one .. That's what is interesting.!
        And it’s not a fact yet. That these air defense systems will suddenly fail at the right time .. Or, on the contrary, they will suddenly react to another target.
        After all, maybe this? Serbia wanted to buy our fighters, well, and other observations ..
        These are the things Russian volunteers have in Serbia .. hi
        1. pru-pavel
          pru-pavel 4 December 2019 19: 40
          -15
          All the same, we will win, because we are Russian. These are the things in the tank troops of the Russian Guard.
          1. Starper-xnumx
            Starper-xnumx 4 December 2019 19: 53
            +6
            Quote: pru-pavel
            Anyway, we will win, because we are Russian

            In the swamp ..? laughing
            "we are not fooling each other .." .. heh he
            1. Dmitry Donskoy
              Dmitry Donskoy 4 December 2019 20: 45
              +4
              The French probably have not enough words. Some of the Mistrals, and ships and air defense systems.
              Mistral is a strong and cold north-west wind blowing from the mountain range of Cévennes onto the Mediterranean coast of France. yes
              1. cost
                cost 4 December 2019 20: 56
                +5


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                The performance characteristics of MANPADS Mistral (Mistral) -3:
                The range of the targets hit - 500-6000 m.
                The height of the targets hit is from 5 to 3000 m.
                Maximum rocket speed - 800 m / s (2,6 M).
                The diameter of the rocket body - 90 mm.
                Rocket length - 1860 mm.
                Rocket launch weight - 18,7 kg.
                The mass of the missile warhead - 3 kg.
                Missile mass in TPK - 24 kg.
                Tripod weight with sights - about 20 kg.
                The time to bring the complex into a combat position is up to a minute.
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 4 December 2019 22: 02
                  +3
                  Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
                  The French probably have not enough words. Some of the Mistrals, and ships and air defense systems.

                  There are more planes

                  And tanks (Char B1-bis No.265 Mistral)
                2. Roman 57 rus
                  Roman 57 rus 5 December 2019 01: 38
                  0
                  The characteristics are not impressive ("The willow will be more serious), and the quantity is not enough. One advantage is that it can work for surface targets. Can they take it for study, judging by the number?
                  1. sivuch
                    sivuch 5 December 2019 10: 23
                    0
                    There is a very decent noise immunity
                    1. Boris Chernikov
                      Boris Chernikov 5 December 2019 16: 44
                      0
                      But will it work? At one time, Yugoslavia boasted about Siemens’s new means of communication .. until they disconnected ..
                3. YOUR
                  YOUR 5 December 2019 02: 42
                  0
                  Bulky complex. It is doubtful its use in various weather conditions and at any time of the day. Normal MANPADS.
                  Apparently the Serbs bought it because of its cheapness.
                4. Boris Chernikov
                  Boris Chernikov 5 December 2019 16: 43
                  0
                  and at the same time it is called "MANPADS" .. only 44 kg .. gives a helmet, armor and a machine gun with one ammo and watch how the fighter enters the ground with his feet
              2. cost
                cost 4 December 2019 21: 01
                +2
                Dmitry Donskoy (Dmitry): The French probably have not enough words. Some of the Mistrals, and ships and air defense systems.

                There are also products - Krupa Mistral smile
              3. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U 5 December 2019 03: 45
                0
                It would be strange if they called their air defense system "Barguzin" for example.
    2. Bar2
      Bar2 4 December 2019 21: 42
      +6
      It’s strange why our missiles, arrows, needles, and willows do not get them? These Mistrals will not shoot at NATO aircraft. Is it really not clear to the Serbs?
      1. d1975
        d1975 4 December 2019 23: 32
        0
        Yes, everything was clear to them, they simply forced it and that’s all! The French have already built the command and control system of troops and where is Miloshchevich now? You are undoubtedly right, only to the point of our opinion ((((
        1. DMoroz
          DMoroz 5 December 2019 01: 10
          +1
          That's it they understand everything ... Just the old principle - the affectionate calf of two queens sucks (or even more until the others see) ...
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 4 December 2019 19: 03
    +7
    It was necessary to buy a 51 rocket - we also need a rocket to study. ...
    1. Cut Samshitov
      Cut Samshitov 4 December 2019 20: 20
      +3
      Quote: Thrifty
      It was necessary to buy a 51 rocket - we also need a rocket to study. ...

      And what is characteristic - there is money to buy weapons from the French. But in Russia - no, because Russia gives ... Again advertising chocolate, about a generous soul.
      1. Vita vko
        Vita vko 4 December 2019 21: 34
        +9
        Do not forget that it was the installation of French thermal imagers on the old Soviet S-125 air defense systems that allowed officers of Yugoslavia to shoot down two F-117s. At the same time, despite the signed and paid contract, under pressure from his American advisers, he refused to supply Yugoslavia with the S-300 air defense system.
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 5 December 2019 03: 12
          +2
          Quote: Vita VKO
          Do not forget that it was the installation of French thermal imagers on the old Soviet S-125 air defense systems that allowed officers of Yugoslavia to shoot down two F-117s.

          Is it two? I remember something about one ... And C-125 from Soviet times was equipped with a television system to use the complex in conditions of strong radio interference. Of course, the TV is not a thermal imager, but still ...
          1. Vita vko
            Vita vko 5 December 2019 07: 39
            0
            Quote: Nikolaevich I
            I remember something about one

            The second F-117 after reaching the rocket (in the air defense terminology - a normal miss) reached the territory of Montenegro, where the pilot ejected. Accordingly, the United States did not confirm its loss from air defense actions, reported technical problems.
          2. sivuch
            sivuch 5 December 2019 10: 44
            +1
            No, Carat would not have helped there, although it is low-level, but 9 evenings is already night, not for him
          3. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 5 December 2019 10: 45
            +1
            Is it two? ....... with the shot down goblin, everything is not clear from the words of the pilot of the shot down goblin the MiG-29 was visually detected, after which the hull rattle from the explosion was heard on the side. but B-2 spirit was really damaged by C-125
        2. sivuch
          sivuch 5 December 2019 10: 22
          +2
          Hospadi, again! am
          Well, Zoltan Dani didn’t have any thermal imager, they found an ordinary Terek at a distance of 20-25 km and took A. / C with the same usual CHP-125. How do you imagine the pairing of the SOC and the thermal imager - Vasya, look at the 2 finger to the left of the bell tower ? By the way, the detections were in the future, but A / C failed. And the second goblin after a month was only knocked out, but reached Paviano, and the degree of damage is unknown.
      2. PalBor
        PalBor 5 December 2019 10: 57
        +1
        Yes, everything is not simple there. The contract was announced in the summer, before the visit of Macron to Belgrade. Curtsied to the boy. In the EU, I want to.
        Plus the French are integrating the Mistral into their existing air defense system.
        By the way, officials from the Ministry of Defense of Serbia explained the rejection of Russian air defense systems by their low efficiency request Isn’t that the Minister of Defense who is involved in the supply of ammunition to Ukraine?
        1. Boris Chernikov
          Boris Chernikov 5 December 2019 16: 46
          +1
          interesting .. where they managed to check and compare our and French MANPADS ..
    2. Ax Matt
      Ax Matt 4 December 2019 21: 45
      0
      So they sent the whole batch ... They even met us in Sochi. laughing Gas in exchange for NATO secrets ...
  3. Lexus
    Lexus 4 December 2019 19: 05
    +16
    Oh, and the money was found! As well as for Erbas helicopters. It is only with us that they are friends "with an outstretched hand."
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 4 December 2019 23: 20
      -1
      They are from old memory to us with outstretched hands, we are kind ..... and they always find grandmothers on capitalists. Parasites !!!
  4. Boris Chernikov
    Boris Chernikov 4 December 2019 19: 06
    +6
    cool che ... Let Russia donate equipment .. and we will buy from the French .. "brothers" as usual
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 5 December 2019 12: 22
      +1
      we donated mainly the equipment removed from conservation
      1. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov 6 December 2019 00: 11
        0
        and modernized, in the form of T-72B3 and BRDM-2M ..
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 6 December 2019 07: 56
          0
          modernized and presented
          1. Boris Chernikov
            Boris Chernikov 6 December 2019 14: 56
            0
            it's not free .. in general, I would understand if France supplied to "aid" or subsidized the supply, whereas they say "don’t look a gift horse in the mouth", but then .. you understand .. take European weapons, knowing full well, that the French will turn it off if something happens.
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 6 December 2019 15: 15
              +2
              for a country like ours it's all a penny
              1. Boris Chernikov
                Boris Chernikov 6 December 2019 18: 07
                0
                it is possible, but very strange to hear about "cooperation" and immediately find out that Serbia decided to buy from others .. Then either take from us or pay like everyone else on the market
  5. Berkut24
    Berkut24 4 December 2019 19: 11
    +5
    The next time NATO will cut off another piece of territory from Serbia in favor of some neighboring country, let Vucic not be surprised that the French complex will refuse to shoot at the aircraft of this "peace-loving" bloc. But Serbia is now completely surrounded by NATO.
    1. Fraracol_2
      Fraracol_2 4 December 2019 19: 24
      -3
      Well, she just has the opportunity to find herself not in the "complete encirclement of NATO", which may happen someday.
    2. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 4 December 2019 19: 37
      +2
      Bosnia-Herzegovina is not a member of NATO, North. Macedonia is not yet a member of NATO - but this does not change the essence of the matter.
      1. Berkut24
        Berkut24 4 December 2019 20: 36
        0
        The first one is under the security guarantees of NATO, its "watchers" are sitting there, the second is in line in NATO and signed an agreement on joint activities.
  6. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 4 December 2019 19: 35
    0
    Yesterday there was news about the Mi-35M, which had been brought to Serbia ahead of schedule, about the ordered and paid Pantsiri-C1. About the plans for the supply of T-72 and BRDM-2, Mi-17V-5 helicopters ... And today - we are friends with France and make purchases ... "multi-vector" policy, however. I suppose, when delivering gas to Serbia, "brothers" will again remember "kinship" ...
    1. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 4 December 2019 21: 01
      0
      the most interesting thing is that half of our equipment goes for free .. but the French they pay the full price
    2. Flooding
      Flooding 4 December 2019 23: 12
      +2
      Quote: cat Rusich
      And today - we are friends with France and make purchases

      We have to be friends, being almost surrounded by sworn friends.
      And quite right, the comrade wrote below
      Quote: rruvim
      In general, a balanced decision: the main thing is to install (integrate) with the PASARS-16 air defense missile system. And this "horse" was created entirely from western components, except for the er-k12 missiles. Then Mistrals are purchased in such a limited quantity: 16 launchers and 50 missiles

      Very limited purchase, almost retail, for a specific task.
      The Serbs are trying with small forces to maximize military power.
      1. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov 5 December 2019 16: 47
        0
        to fasten guides and 2 drives?
  7. knn54
    knn54 4 December 2019 20: 02
    +1
    Where is 7 km from? In range, to 6 km, in height, 3 km.
    At the same time MANPADS "Verba" -6,5 km; 3,5 km, respectively, and the price is significantly lower.
    In the EU they want?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 4 December 2019 20: 12
      +4
      Quote: knn54
      Where is 7 km from?

      Manufacturer indicates 6.5 km

      Quote: knn54
      At the same time MANPADS "Verba"

      ...not for sale
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 5 December 2019 03: 37
        +1
        Quote: Spade
        At the same time MANPADS "Verba"

        ...not for sale

        Not so sad! The Ministry of Defense announced its readiness to supply foreign customers with an export version of "Verba" ...
    2. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 4 December 2019 21: 01
      +1
      it's called in ideal conditions ... in polygonal
    3. nks
      nks 5 December 2019 00: 01
      -6
      From there, the 1,5 has more fuel. Therefore, where Willow has 6,5 km, Mistral has everything 9. Actually, it surpasses the willow in all respects, except that the willow is easier.
    4. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 5 December 2019 03: 18
      +1
      Quote: knn54
      With this MANPADS "Verba" -6,5 km; 3,5 km

      Well, "Verba" is a new MANPADS .. "open data" has not settled yet, but it was about: slope range-6,4 km; dog at an altitude of 4,5 km ...
  8. Uncle Izya
    Uncle Izya 4 December 2019 20: 18
    -3
    What nonsense is why they are in Serbia, Serbia has no access to the sea))
    1. Fraracol_2
      Fraracol_2 4 December 2019 20: 31
      -8
      What does the sea have to do with it?
  9. mehan
    mehan 4 December 2019 20: 23
    -8
    Comments are not enthusiastic.
    Strange.
  10. Horon
    Horon 4 December 2019 20: 29
    +3
    The French have a bad habit of shutting off their air defense systems if they turn against NATO.
    1. Uncle Izya
      Uncle Izya 4 December 2019 20: 58
      +1
      So do all NATO countries
  11. rruvim
    rruvim 4 December 2019 20: 35
    +5
    Willow - ... not for sale. In general, a balanced decision: the main thing is to install (integrate) with the PASARS-16 air defense missile system. And this "horse" was created entirely from western components, except for the er-k12 missiles. Then the Mistrals are purchased in such a limited quantity: 16 launchers and 50 missiles, that the guys from the LPNR would have laughed. Voentorg is even more effective.
  12. awdrgy
    awdrgy 4 December 2019 20: 52
    +6
    Serbia is arming as it can, this is normal
    1. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 5 December 2019 16: 50
      0
      Well then, let them buy our equipment for the full price .. but not so .. that half as a gift, and the second half at domestic prices
  13. Ax Matt
    Ax Matt 4 December 2019 21: 40
    +1
    Great news! In Sochi, Vucic has already been thanked ... for a trial batch of 18 complexes. Everything in this world revolves around the gas / oil system. French people! We are now working through Serbia! And 50 missiles will be quite enough to shoot at our ranges and understand the system of escape / counteraction to these Mistrals 3. What a word ... just magical! I bet the French paratroopers' flasks are called Mistral-10, and the bayonet-knife from Famas Cleron is called Mistral-15 ...
  14. Adimius38
    Adimius38 4 December 2019 22: 06
    -5
    Not surprisingly, the Serbs are buying on the basis of their financial capabilities, but in my opinion they clearly said that C-400 is expensive for them. And for urry less patriots see urry propaganda about the best of the best. Along Russia, in the world there are still countries that can make excellent weapons. As I recall, Russia failed miserably with the Indian tender for fighters, as a result, India buys Rafal. Here even the Belarusians brothers speak out in favor of the F-16 as Russia, well, has nothing to offer in this class.
    1. _Ugene_
      _Ugene_ 4 December 2019 22: 47
      +4
      As I recall, Russia failed miserably with the Indian tender for fighters, as a result, India buys Rafal.
      how many su-xnumx are in india? about 30 pcs, but how many Rafalev? here and draw conclusions
      Here even the Belarusians brothers speak out in favor of the F-16 as Russia, well, has nothing to offer in this class.
      well, smearing paper is one thing, but buying another, I don’t remember what the Belarusians would buy F-16, and it’s stupid to take articles from the "opposition" for the voice of the Belarusians brothers
      1. Adimius38
        Adimius38 4 December 2019 23: 55
        -6
        conclusions have long been made, Su-30 in India is a necessary measure, and then the Indians went for it in exchange for technology and localization of production in India, and it would still be unknown how the fate of Su-30 in India ended, most likely as the fate of super twink-35. As for the F-16, no one in Belarus bought it, but the conversation was not surprising, since the F-16 is cheaper than Russian dryers, an easy full-fledged universal fighter, much less expensive to maintain. For small countries, this is the thing. Russia has nothing to offer in this class, the delivered yak-130, well, it’s a chuckle for laughter because it is not a fighter and can not be compared with a full-fledged combat vehicle. Of course, we can offer Mig-23 from the museum)) and so over the years of democracy, we have a complete failure to create light single-engine fighters, although the design bureaus had some developments.
        1. _Ugene_
          _Ugene_ 5 December 2019 11: 57
          -1
          there is demagogy like your post but there is reality, for example, the number of Su-30 and rafale in India or the number of Su-30 and f-16 in Belarus, everything else is chatter and your Wishlist
          1. Adimius38
            Adimius38 5 December 2019 18: 42
            0
            you have the chatter, read carefully that the su-30 in the bulk of the Indian assembly, as India got the opportunity to license assembly from this and the quantity. No one provided Rafale with a license assembly for India, the car itself is expensive and of course its quantity is less. The choice in favor of Rafal is also obvious, a serious modern machine and most importantly having a ready-made deck version for the so-called created aircraft carrier Indian fleet.
            1. _Ugene_
              _Ugene_ 5 December 2019 21: 20
              0
              and what has changed from all of the above? 250 su-30 is power, and 30 rafals are unclear why are they needed at all, what does this amount mean for such a huge country? wasted money
        2. Boris Chernikov
          Boris Chernikov 5 December 2019 16: 54
          -1
          In this case, why does Minsk need the Air Force at all? If it wants a light fighter between a vehicle and a light fighter? Would buy a moment-21 from neighbors and fly on them. Concerning "light single-engine" For 30 years, out of those 12 cars, only one will remain intact ... and that is because the broken one costs
          1. Adimius38
            Adimius38 5 December 2019 18: 36
            -1
            of course MIG-21 AND F-16 In your view, absolutely identical machines for combat capabilities)))) The question is different, what can Russia offer in an affordable class of light single-engine fighter, the answer is NOTHING! the rest is all chatter.
            1. Boris Chernikov
              Boris Chernikov 6 December 2019 00: 10
              0
              well, come on in fact .. RB has two options, either war or no war .. Lukashenko said that he doesn’t want to fight with anyone .. following your logic, you need cheaper, in this case it’s better not to have aviation at all, because in case of war, they’ll knock it out once or twice .. so cry money ..
    2. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 5 December 2019 16: 50
      -1
      so buys ... that orders in a row and Su-30 and Mig-29 ..
  15. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 4 December 2019 22: 50
    0
    How not to spy on such little brothers
  16. NBV
    NBV 4 December 2019 23: 11
    -2
    Serbs have always been suckers with two cows. They have a saying - "Greeks to feed us, and Russian to protect us." They were always one foot east and the other west. As the Serbs say: “Let the Russians donate, so that we have money for the West.” And the Russians consider the Serbs their allies. This is naive.
    1. Adimius38
      Adimius38 4 December 2019 23: 57
      0
      Well, why Serbs)), many small countries have such a policy. Such countries always look in both directions)
  17. eckons
    eckons 4 December 2019 23: 49
    0
    The purpose of this complex is not clear. Sit in the field wait, plane?
    1. Revival
      Revival 5 December 2019 00: 15
      0
      I'm afraid only the plane will not wait))
  18. bars1
    bars1 5 December 2019 00: 17
    0
    Quote: Adimius38
    Well, why Serbs)), many small countries have such a policy. Such countries always look in both directions)

    “All big countries behave like bandits, all small countries behave like a prospect ....... tki.” So old Bismarck used to say ... (Stupid censorship on the site did not allow the last word in the quote to be written in full)
  19. PROXOR
    PROXOR 5 December 2019 10: 09
    0
    Great bandura. Our will be more compact.