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Ukraine has banned the supply of electricity from Russia

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Ukraine has banned the supply of electricity from Russia

Ukraine has banned the supply of electricity from Russia under bilateral agreements. The corresponding bill was adopted by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine in the second reading. The decision was supported by 274 deputy with the required number of 226.


The proposal to ban electricity supplies from Russia was made by the head of the Rada’s committee on energy and utilities Andrei Gerus. Prohibition amendments were adopted.

Editing is prohibitive (...) By bilateral agreements it will be impossible to receive electricity from the Russian Federation

- said in a statement on the website of the Ukrainian parliament.

This decision was criticized by the deputy from the Batkivshchyna party, Ivan Krulko, who stated that at the same time as the ban on the import of electricity from Russia, it is necessary to ban the import of electricity from Belarus, since Russia can supply its energy through the territory of Belarus.

In early October, Ukraine returned to electricity imports from Russia, which was suspended in 2015 by adopting a number of legislative amendments. The reason for the restoration of commercial supplies could be a shortage of coal. Since December 1, Ukrainian traders refused to import electricity from Belarus, although there is no official ban yet.

Meanwhile, at the end of November, the thermal power plants Burshtynskaya and Pridneprovskaya, which belong to the Ukrainian company DTEK, stopped their work, demanding to stop importing electricity, as it became unprofitable.
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  1. Vladimir16
    Vladimir16 4 December 2019 16: 25
    +25
    It’s time for the parliament to ban the positive temperature in Ukraine.
    There are only raw foods. Gnaw ice.

    Judging by the laws, they are there (in parliament) already frostbitten.
    1. The black
      The black 4 December 2019 16: 27
      +21
      It doesn’t matter, Slovaks and Liquorhood will sell .... reverse laughing laughing laughing
      1. maxim947
        maxim947 4 December 2019 16: 32
        +44
        When we stop, in general, everything connected with Ukraine, including endless chatter on TV. Let them do what they want, and why they signed a contract for oil transit is not clear.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 4 December 2019 16: 51
          +10
          Quote: maxim947
          and why they signed the contract for oil transit is not clear.

          Everything is simple there - there is no alternative to the Druzhba oil pipeline. The topic of the construction of an additional "Baltic" branch was raised, but things are still there.
          1. Igoresha
            Igoresha 4 December 2019 17: 05
            -6
            the Druzhba pipeline does not.
            an energy superpower called, drives crude oil.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 4 December 2019 17: 26
              +12
              in fact, from the time of the Union it drives and is normal. Do you want to break the oil pipeline?)
              1. Igoresha
                Igoresha 4 December 2019 17: 30
                +7
                I want to build an oil refinery and sell products of high processing)
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 4 December 2019 17: 48
                  +10
                  Neftekhim and the Amur GPP are already being built without you.
                2. nerd.su
                  nerd.su 4 December 2019 18: 58
                  +4
                  Quote: Igoresha
                  I want to build an oil refinery and sell products of high processing)

                  Everyone wants. And their own European refineries, too. You will drive gasoline through the pipeline, so the EU will introduce such duties that oil production will become unprofitable.
                  1. Rostislav
                    Rostislav 4 December 2019 22: 35
                    +5
                    And instead of the pipe, they will carry oil by tankers, and then the railway. tanks at their refineries. And they will be glad that oil as a result has risen in price, and gasoline is next.
                    1. nerd.su
                      nerd.su 6 December 2019 21: 00
                      0
                      Quote: Rostislav
                      And they will be glad that oil as a result has risen in price, and gasoline is next.

                      Don't be taken out of context. Comrade or Mr. Igoresha does not want to sell oil, but wants to be the "mistress of the sea", that is, to sell high-value products. You have to understand that we are already selling a lot of high conversion, so Igoresha wants to process all the oil, otherwise why bother about it? And since all to process, then the products must be sold. And then there is only a pipe, you cannot be dung by tankers across the continental power. This is with an oil refinery tanker to the railway station, from there to the port, and from there ... to another port, and there everything is in reverse order ...
                      No, of course, if your little refinery wants to laughing then I spoke too sharply feel
                  2. Maxim Kuznetsov
                    Maxim Kuznetsov 5 December 2019 11: 32
                    +1
                    Why drive gasoline through the pipeline? There are fuel trucks and tankers
                    1. nerd.su
                      nerd.su 6 December 2019 21: 03
                      0
                      There is. The answer is essentially higher. Our country is too big.
            2. Tersky
              Tersky 4 December 2019 17: 39
              +5
              Quote: Igoresha
              an energy superpower called, drives crude oil.

              The main exporters of oil in the world are 11 states. It is logical to distribute all exporting countries into regions of the world:
              • Region- Asia (Middle East): Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Iran, Iraq, Qatar.
              • Region - Europe: Norway, Russia, United Kingdom.
              • Region - America: Canada, Mexico, Venezuela.
              • Region - Africa: Nigeria, Angola, Algeria.
              Don't you confuse anything? An energy superpower precisely because it has huge reserves of both gas and oil, and not because it burns oil and gas and has an unlimited amount of energy from this. Above is a list of oil exporting countries that also "drive" crude oil. Or will you try to prove to me that this is not so and they "drive" some other?
              1. Igoresha
                Igoresha 4 December 2019 17: 40
                -19
                what is there to prove that in these countries there are fewer people than in Moscow, they can not take a steam bath
                1. Tersky
                  Tersky 4 December 2019 17: 45
                  +8
                  Quote: Igoresha
                  what is there to prove that in these countries there are fewer people

                  Everything is clear with you yes can not continue hi
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                3. bk316
                  bk316 4 December 2019 18: 43
                  +8
                  in these countries there are fewer people than in Moscow

                  Sometimes it's better to be silent.
                  129 million people in Mexico.
              2. den3080
                den3080 4 December 2019 17: 52
                +22
                Well, there are nuances :))
                crude oil from the USA, Canada, Great Britain has a serious advantage! for it is Anglo-Saxon oil !! this is plus 100 bonus points
                from Norway ... well, just like the allies of the Anglo-Saxons.
                But all of the above crude oils have one undeniable advantage over the rest: they are democratic !!
                freedom molecules and all that.

                the most undesirable oil is of course Russian.
                here is a country without a column, and an oil needle and what a shame “an energy power, but it drives crude oil for export)
                for some reason, the smug face of Boris Nadezhdin with his always silly smile and the “special” views of Leonid Gozman and Mr. Sytin came to mind.
                1. Tersky
                  Tersky 4 December 2019 17: 55
                  +3
                  Quote: den3080
                  the most undesirable oil is of course Russian.
                  here is a country without a column, and an oil needle and what a shame “an energy power, but it drives crude oil for export)

                  good
                2. bk316
                  bk316 4 December 2019 18: 45
                  +3
                  Well, there are nuances :))

                  Yeah, and the electrons of the Russian autonomy deprive the Great Aurora.
                  Here the truth is also a nuance, as you know the transfer of electrons and current things are different.
                  But how did the squash know this ...
                3. cat Rusich
                  cat Rusich 4 December 2019 23: 31
                  +1
                  The most "aggressive" oil is from Iran. "True democracies" cannot buy oil from Iran - only "liberated" from Assad, the United States itself, oil from controlled wells in Syria.
                4. KCA
                  KCA 7 December 2019 10: 43
                  0
                  In fact, Russian oil is really worse than Saudi and other:
                  Urals is a high-sulfur oil grade (sulfur content of about 1,3%), which is a mixture of oil produced in the Khanty-Mansiysk and Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Districts, Bashkortostan, Tatarstan and Samara Region. The main producers of Urals oil are Rosneft, Bashneft, Lukoil, Surgutneftegaz, Gazprom Neft, TNK-BP and Tatneft. The cost of Russian oil has historically been defined as the price of a barrel of Brent oil at a discount, that is, reduced by 1-2 dollars [5], since Russian oil is heavier (contains less gasoline and gas oil fractions and, as a result, has a higher density) and has a higher sulfur content. Since the late 2000s, it has actually been an independent marker variety.
            3. aleksandroff
              aleksandroff 4 December 2019 21: 07
              0
              shsha only dream about it, although no less than a superpower
            4. Flooding
              Flooding 4 December 2019 23: 36
              +1
              Quote: Igoresha
              an energy superpower called, drives crude oil.

              Ask a little question before writing nonsense.
              Oil products share in gross export of oil and oil products very significant, both in quantitative and monetary terms. With a growing trend.
          2. dgonni
            dgonni 4 December 2019 17: 27
            +2
            Oil on the bottom of the Baltic? Then gas was barely pierced. and for oil, I strongly doubt even the discussion. The greens eat any politician the moment and irrevocably.
            Well, in general, it makes sense to pull the pipe along the bottom. If oil is really not gas. I uploaded it to the tanker and sent it. Unfortunately, gas is very dreary. We need gas carriers. We need plants. Need infrastructure on the receiving shore. In general, not very comme il faut!
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 4 December 2019 17: 42
              +2
              Quote: dgonni
              Oil on the bottom of the Baltic?

              This is a new branch to the Baltic, bypassing Belarus and Ukraine, as was done with the Baltic countries. And here is the Baltic.
              1. dgonni
                dgonni 4 December 2019 18: 15
                -5
                What is the meaning? Dump to the Baltic then reload onto a tanker and then a tanker to the ports of Europe? And nothing so tacos that greatly affects the price. And even before a handful, take care of the knowledge of which refineries in Europe are focused on the Urals brand! In such circumstances, oil will cost space and it’s cheaper to tank oil from the Middle East from tankers. And the quality of oil is better and more exhaust from it!
                1. Tersky
                  Tersky 4 December 2019 18: 24
                  +7
                  Quote: dgonni
                  What is the meaning? Dump to the Baltic then reload onto a tanker and then a tanker to the ports of Europe?

                  Druzhba's oil was poured into tankers at the terminals in Klaipeda, poured in Ventspils (almost 70% of their volumes were transferred to Ust-Lug via BPS-2) and in Croatia - Omishal, and this does not make it more expensive.
                  1. Astronaut
                    Astronaut 5 December 2019 02: 36
                    0
                    Do not carry nonsense, Friendship never went to Klaipeda, it is an oil pipeline, which provides Eastern European countries
                    1. Tersky
                      Tersky 5 December 2019 18: 03
                      +1
                      Quote: Astronaut
                      Do not carry nonsense,

                      request And your coupons are over?
                      and to consolidate the passed material: "Druzhba" will reduce the volumes of oil products transshipment through Kaliningrad and Klaipeda "https://www.newkaliningrad.ru/news/economy/154014-.html
                      1. Astronaut
                        Astronaut 6 December 2019 02: 25
                        0
                        You bring the date of the article you bring, this pipe was closed a long time ago.
                        So keep your coupons with you!
                      2. Tersky
                        Tersky 6 December 2019 12: 41
                        +1
                        Quote: Astronaut
                        this pipe was closed a long time ago.
                        You already somehow decide on the allegations because you affirmed precisely this:
                        Quote: Astronaut
                        Friendship never went to Klaipeda,
                        This link was for you to refute your comment that there is Friendship in Klaipeda, and whether it works from the other opera or not ...
                        Quote: Astronaut
                        So keep your coupons with you!

                        I, unlike you, have unlimited access in all search engines, yes And yes, the word "delirium" is applicable to sick and mentally disturbed people, my good advice is to waste less with this word.
                      3. Astronaut
                        Astronaut 6 December 2019 13: 21
                        0
                        This is to help you with unlimited access.

                        As you can see there is no Klaipeda on "Druzhba"
                      4. Astronaut
                        Astronaut 6 December 2019 13: 32
                        0
                        Admins wrote yabadu, do you feel that you are wrong? laughing
                      5. Tersky
                        Tersky 6 December 2019 18: 11
                        +2
                        Quote: Astronaut
                        Admins wrote yabadu, do you feel that you are wrong?

                        You, for the sake of interest, open my profile, you can understand (without Google) that I do not need to write about anyone, nobody.
                        Quote: Astronaut
                        As you can see there is no Klaipeda on "Druzhba"
                        Have you read the article on the link to the end? Or diagonally? Well, in fact, stay with your opinion, it is somehow indifferent to me. But do not forget about the word "delirium" and its meaning ... If anything, I will remind yes , etc.
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                2. Xenofont
                  Xenofont 4 December 2019 19: 32
                  +4
                  But is it not unprofitable to pay for transit to the Poles, Schenevmaerls and Luka with its growing tariffs?
                3. bk316
                  bk316 4 December 2019 19: 35
                  +7
                  In such a scenario, oil will cost space

                  For a long time, almost all of the oil goes either through Friendship to Klaipeda or via BPS to Primorsk.
                  There it is loaded onto tankers and further by sea. AND DO NOT BECOME A SPACE.

                  WELL WHY DO PEOPLE WRITE ANY FIGURE? IN FACT ALL DATA IS OPEN. WHAT PERSONALLY HINDERED YOU TO DOG the "export oil companies of the Russian Federation"?
                  1. Tersky
                    Tersky 4 December 2019 20: 17
                    +5
                    Quote: bk316
                    WHAT PERSONALLY HINDERED YOU TO DOG the "export oil companies of the Russian Federation"?

                    Google coupons are over ...
                    1. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 5 December 2019 04: 07
                      +2
                      Victor hi
                      Google coupons are over ...

                      No matter how! 200 years of coupons have been printed, but the money to buy them from someone is definitely over. laughing
                  2. Astronaut
                    Astronaut 5 December 2019 02: 38
                    -1
                    So don’t write garbage about Klaipeda !!!
              2. LiSiCyn
                LiSiCyn 5 December 2019 01: 55
                +4
                Where ?
                Quote: Tersky
                This is a new branch to the Baltic

                Ust-Luga again?
                hi
                1. Tersky
                  Tersky 5 December 2019 18: 12
                  +1
                  Quote: LiSiCyn
                  Ust-Luga again?

                  Strange, there is the so-called BTS-2
            2. Rzzz
              Rzzz 5 December 2019 07: 35
              +1
              Quote: dgonni
              I uploaded it to the tanker and sent it.

              A feature of the sea transportation of oil cargo is that most of the costs are just related to terminal operations, and not the transportation itself. It turns out the shorter the flight, the less profitable to carry, the rate for the transportation of St. Petersburg-Germany will be twice as high as the Persian Gulf - Texas.
              1. Maxim Kuznetsov
                Maxim Kuznetsov 5 December 2019 11: 57
                +2
                The cost of tanker transportation falls 6 years in a row. Export of Russian oil by sea today reaches more than 60 million tons per year. 12 million tons were transported through the oil pipeline through Ukraine to Slovakia. In Ukraine, the oil pipe was cut long ago. On the northern branch through Belarus, 35 million tons.
                That is, shipments by sea are 35% higher than total shipments by friendship
                In addition, the Russian Federation is one of the main exporters of oil to China.
                For residual Ukrainian capacities, the non-alternativeness of Russian oil is obvious when the Russian Federation will absorb these miserable 8-10 million tons without problems (they will buy approximately the same amount in 2019)
                If you didn’t know, Russia annually produces 500-560 million tons of oil
                In addition to friendship, there is also BTS2. Its throughput is the same, if not more.
                1. Rzzz
                  Rzzz 5 December 2019 18: 42
                  0
                  The rate falls, not the cost of transportation. Costs why fall? Fuel rises in price, repair of steamboats rises in price, crew salaries need to be raised, excise taxes on fuel have increased, VAT has increased. Requirements for steamboats are growing (ballast management, low sulfur fuel, etc.).
                  As a result, the benefit falls, carriers leave the market.
          3. Maxim Kuznetsov
            Maxim Kuznetsov 5 December 2019 11: 19
            +2
            I heard a jingle but don’t know where he is
            If only I would open Wikipedia
            The friendship pipeline itself has been gone for 10 years. His bits remained
            And the Russian Federation supplies more than 60% of oil by sea
          4. Maxim Kuznetsov
            Maxim Kuznetsov 5 December 2019 11: 26
            0
            most likely it was a matter of insignificant volumes for Belarus, Poland and the Czech Republic
            The Baltic direction has long been closed. Ukraine is well aware that delivering oil by sea is not a problem
            By the way, and gas, too. Active construction of plants for LNG production is underway. And the same China and Europe are actively building up a tanker fleet for its transportation.
            1. Maxim Kuznetsov
              Maxim Kuznetsov 5 December 2019 11: 29
              0
              I’ll add that the future of the LNG market on the continent is predetermined
              It will be dominated by a Russian-Chinese corporation
          5. Maxim Kuznetsov
            Maxim Kuznetsov 5 December 2019 12: 02
            0
            You would like to say that the Russian oil has no alternative to the miserable remnants of the southern (Ukrainian) branch of the Druzhba pipeline. Given that the Russian Federation produces 560 million tons per year. and 290 recycles itself. These miserable non-alternative 8-10 million tons per year for Slovakia are not a reason for discussion.
        2. 4ekist
          4ekist 4 December 2019 17: 14
          -8
          And for that, thanks to the European and American partners. They don’t have money to keep them frostbitten. And since kaklam will drip at $ 3 billion per transit. And the Russian side has shown its toothlessness.
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 5 December 2019 08: 47
            0
            do not write nonsense, there is no other pipe, and railway transport will not work out very much,
            what should we stop selling oil? so everyone will be happy only for this
        3. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 4 December 2019 21: 18
          +7
          Quote: maxim947
          When we stop, in general, everything connected with Ukraine, including endless chatter on TV. Let them do what they want, and why they signed a contract for oil transit is not clear.

          Good question, but unfortunately there is no answer to it. The electricity had to be cut off immediately the next day after they cut off supplies to Crimea by blowing up the power transmission towers. They cut off the water in Crimea, get a blockage of money transfers from ukrogastarbeiters from Russia. Now they will pay for a room in the NATO headquarters for 850 thousand euros with Russian money received for the transit of oil, and from there, as far as they can, they will screw up Russia. It is necessary to curtail all economic contacts with this country not today or tomorrow, but already the day before yesterday and consider the issues of restoring economic contacts as their brains become enlightened, since "a well-fed belly is deaf to reason."
      2. Tersky
        Tersky 4 December 2019 16: 42
        +1
        Quote: Black
        It doesn’t matter, Slovaks and sparkling will sell.

        Quite the contrary, electricity supplies from the Burshtyn TPP were in the direction of Hungary, Slovakia and Romania. In the news: Meanwhile, at the end of November, the thermal power plants of Burshtynskaya and Pridneprovskaya, owned by the Ukrainian company DTEK, stopped working, demanding to stop importing electricity, as it became unprofitable. Meanwhile, at the end of November, the thermal power plants of Burshtynskaya and Pridneprovskaya, which belong to the Ukrainian company DTEK, stopped working, demanding stop importing electricity, as it has become unprofitable. It is not clear from what sources Ukraine is going to continue supplying electricity to these countries. This is called in spite of the neighbor .... and hereinafter.
        1. Xenofont
          Xenofont 4 December 2019 19: 34
          +2
          Monopoly prices in the market are at stake, and then a demarche ensued.
      3. Servisinzhener
        Servisinzhener 4 December 2019 16: 45
        +1
        This scheme worked out on gas; now it can be applied to all sectors of the national economy.
      4. Labrador
        Labrador 4 December 2019 18: 59
        +1
        Editing is prohibitive (...) By bilateral agreements it will be impossible to receive electricity from the Russian Federation

        Well, it’s impossible to write on two sides, and, accordingly, inserting the third link, you can
      5. Alexander Petrov1
        Alexander Petrov1 4 December 2019 19: 50
        -2
        "Ukraine has banned the supply of electricity from Russia" - But immediately signed a contract for the supply of Wax Candles from Russia ... laughing
    2. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 4 December 2019 16: 59
      +1
      And it seems ridiculous, but people feel sorry for one devil.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 4 December 2019 17: 28
        +4
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        and people feel sorry for one devil.

        And I feel so sorry for people:
        Residents of an exploding house near Belgorod will receive apartments in July ...

        1,6 billion rubles stolen during construction of a port near Kaliningrad

        Fire extinguished at Gazprom Neft refinery in Omsk

        The prosecutor's office will check the carrier whose bus got into an accident in Saratov

        And every day we are presented with news from the fields ... I don’t understand in any way, are there few problems?
        So, the inhabitants of Dagestan for ten months of this year did not pay gas for 2 billion rubles.
        Over the past year, their debts grew by 4,3 billion rubles - from 33,8 billion rubles as of January 1, 2018 to 38,2 billion rubles as of January 1, 2019 ...
        So, in Russia as a whole on November 1, debt for gas grew by 6 billion rubles and amounted to 186,2 billion rubles.

        You look at the internal problems, people were left without light, without gas, without heating, without water, without housing for the winter ... There (VNA) they refused Russian electricity ... fool Yes, a flag in their hands - let them do what they want ...
        In Crimea, they can’t solve the problem of fresh water, and our heart should hurt for the light ... Let the torch burn, fewer trolls on the sites ...
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 4 December 2019 17: 32
          +1
          You write as if I were calling on the last shirt in Ukraine to give. But people still feel sorry.
          1. 4ekist
            4ekist 4 December 2019 19: 32
            -1
            Sorry for the bee.
        2. Xenofont
          Xenofont 4 December 2019 19: 40
          +2
          Well, in Crimea and other Soviets and under the king there was a shortage of drinking water. Resting on the South Coast, I used water for 2 hours a day in many villages. Sanatoriums had water around the clock. But industrial water was in abundance from the Dnieper, and now I had to shrink and wait for a complete restructuring of the entire water supply system due to rational accumulation and expenditure on the Peninsula.
      2. mark2
        mark2 4 December 2019 17: 42
        +2
        Generally not sorry.
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    3. Idunavs
      Idunavs 4 December 2019 17: 16
      +5
      They need one law so as not to suffer: everything from Russia is forbidden.
      1. Grits
        Grits 4 December 2019 17: 24
        +4
        Quote: Idunawa
        They need one law so as not to suffer: everything from Russia is forbidden.

        Even the wind blowing from Russia. True, the aggressive wind coming from Russia and flying through the territory of Ukraine is no longer aggressive.
    4. businessv
      businessv 4 December 2019 21: 54
      +1
      Quote: Vladimir16
      Judging by the laws, they are there (in parliament) already frostbitten.

      I’ve always been so happy! DTEK is Akhmetov’s company, if he told Rada that he would stop the power plants, if the law was not passed, then he would either stop or the law would be passed, which happened!
    5. Maxim Kuznetsov
      Maxim Kuznetsov 5 December 2019 11: 36
      +1
      This is another stupid attempt to ban the supply of energy to LDN
      Its essence is to buy coal in Russia to produce light from it in Poland and sell it to Ukraine
      This is money from nothing. Greedy Poles and a number of large entrepreneurs who manage them try to grab whatever is possible
      Hence such crazy offers
      Well, let’s go to LDNR and try to dump the tower there, they’ll immediately end up on the spot
  2. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 December 2019 16: 26
    +13
    From the category, do what you want, but the funeral tomorrow. laughing At the same time, an amendment was introduced to the bill, which gives the Cabinet the right to temporarily lift the ban in order to avoid emergency situations in the energy system of Ukraine.

    I really want that such applications would be considered .. well, so a couple of weeks ...

    Such questions, dear ambassador, are not resolved with a condachka. We need to consult with comrades, stop by for a week. (c) Ivan Vasilievich
  3. NF68
    NF68 4 December 2019 16: 28
    +11
    To the conductor, I’ll buy a ticket, but I’ll go on foot. Sooner or later, the horse will finish off the energy. But abroad will not help them anyway
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 4 December 2019 18: 10
      +3
      Quote: NF68
      To the conductor, I’ll buy a ticket, but I’ll go on foot.

      yes No matter how many rakes you hide from the ancient Trypillians, they’ll spoil them hopak anyway ....
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 4 December 2019 16: 29
    +5
    That's right, the economy of Ukraine mostly rested in the wagon train, so they will not need electricity at such a "shock" pace in a couple of years! !!
  5. Avior
    Avior 4 December 2019 16: 32
    +5
    The reason on the surface is the hryvnia has appreciably strengthened and Russian electricity has fallen significantly for Ukrainians, it is more difficult for local to compete
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  6. alavrin
    alavrin 4 December 2019 16: 36
    +3
    Let the north-east, south and east winds be banned.
    1. DMoroz
      DMoroz 4 December 2019 17: 58
      +2
      And some especially gifted are also north-south ...
  7. MIG00001
    MIG00001 4 December 2019 16: 37
    +2
    Nuuuu and? It is necessary to ban the transportation of gas, but apparently they are silent about this at the expense of
  8. prior
    prior 4 December 2019 16: 38
    +2
    Gerus received a facet from Lyashka and Russian electricity immediately became aggressive.
  9. Starper-xnumx
    Starper-xnumx 4 December 2019 16: 40
    +2
    The bastards are getting ready for the Norman four ....
    I would be at Putin’s place at the last moment refused this meeting and set a firm condition for the representatives of the DPR to be there on equal terms! hi
    And so it will be chatter and just persecution of our President .. The howl burns and the "world media" are already rubbing their sweaty hands, as they will spit on Putin and Russia along with him .. angry
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 4 December 2019 16: 48
      +4
      Starper 777-Vitaliy, go, on behalf of Topvar take power into your own hands! Just do not let your hands strongly wassat !!!
      1. Starper-xnumx
        Starper-xnumx 4 December 2019 17: 32
        +4
        Quote: Thrifty
        Starper 777-Vitaliy, go, on behalf of Topvar take power into your own hands! Just do not let your hands strongly wassat !!!

        I would be glad, but I do not beat women, but I do something else ... lol

        But Zelensky, I would ..

        How he makes me angry Zionist with ears .. negative
    2. Grits
      Grits 4 December 2019 17: 27
      +9
      Quote: Starper-777
      And so it will be chatter and just persecution of our President .. The howl burns and the "world media" are already rubbing their sweaty hands, as they will spit on Putin and Russia along with him ..

      Putin’s uncle is stern and doesn’t roll cotton - he won’t have any experience. As if spitting in the direction of Putin did not fly into the face of the spitting themselves.
      1. Starper-xnumx
        Starper-xnumx 4 December 2019 18: 06
        +2
        Quote: Gritsa
        As if spitting in the direction of Putin did not fly into the face of the spitting themselves.

        I hope so too .. hi And then liberals, cosmopolitans, how everyone and everyone will start to find fault .. So the men are bad at heart.
        Previously, it was easier to throw a checker on the head and against the wall "or to a psychiatric hospital (in the late 80s, everyone was released) and
        In Kharkov, there was a psychiatric hospital of national importance))))) .. Probably already destroyed it?
        Where to catch them all now in the destroyed Union .. wassat No medicine, nothing .. hehe Here they are in power now
  10. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 4 December 2019 16: 40
    0
    The chain will be formed: Russia - Baltic States - Ukraine
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 December 2019 17: 01
      +3
      This is how much they feed on such chains, for gas, for electricity and other supplies ...
      1. 7,62x54
        7,62x54 4 December 2019 17: 04
        +4
        It would be nice to cut off this umbilical cord, but everyone has some selfish interest.
        1. cniza
          cniza 4 December 2019 17: 05
          +1
          Quote: 7,62x54
          It would be nice to cut off this umbilical cord, but everyone has some selfish interest.


          Difficult if possible at all, is that to refuse to export?
          1. 7,62x54
            7,62x54 4 December 2019 17: 07
            -2
            Use resources for domestic production and improving the welfare of citizens.
            1. cniza
              cniza 4 December 2019 17: 10
              +2
              This we have already passed rather tried, and it is not even possible theoretically.
              1. 7,62x54
                7,62x54 4 December 2019 17: 13
                -1
                I do not agree with you that after an unsuccessful attempt, you need to give up.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 4 December 2019 17: 16
                  +2
                  How to say this ... it is profitable for us to export and we won’t be able to do this.
            2. Rzzz
              Rzzz 5 December 2019 07: 41
              -1
              Quote: 7,62x54
              Use resources for domestic production and improving the welfare of citizens.

              Citizens of Akhmetov, and others there Kolomoisky. Administrative resources are used in full.
  11. skomfit
    skomfit 4 December 2019 16: 40
    0
    To evil mom frostbitten ears)))
  12. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 4 December 2019 16: 41
    +1
    And we pump oil and gas through them and pay them more for transit. Stop feeding Russophobes!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 December 2019 17: 52
      -1
      We pump less and less of each year.
  13. knn54
    knn54 4 December 2019 16: 49
    +1
    I suspect that Lyashko planned to build candle plants ...
  14. Baloo
    Baloo 4 December 2019 16: 50
    +5
    But why electricity to Ukraine in general? feel
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 December 2019 16: 59
      +5
      It’s time to return to the bends.
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 4 December 2019 23: 39
        0
        Luchins will also be imported from Russia through Belarus, and timber from the Carpathians will go "for firewood" to the EU.
    2. Grits
      Grits 4 December 2019 17: 28
      +3
      Quote: Balu
      But why electricity to Ukraine in general?

      That the TV worked incessantly.
  15. Ros 56
    Ros 56 4 December 2019 16: 51
    +2
    You need to start with gasoline and diesel fuel, and then turn off the gas. Lyapota.
  16. JonnyT
    JonnyT 4 December 2019 16: 51
    +3
    Is it too much trouble or zrada? I am confused about the peculiarities of Ukrainian politics
    1. Tuzik
      Tuzik 4 December 2019 17: 22
      0
      ))) some kind of game. I wonder what prize Akhmetov from this ban?
  17. ochakow703
    ochakow703 4 December 2019 16: 58
    +2
    How tired of all this! They expel from their madness, but we still can’t part with this viper. It's time to forget about this territory, and not have anything to do with it.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 4 December 2019 17: 10
      0
      Ochakov 703 - they will not let us forget about them! Their being implies eternal spitting and filth, coupled with a lie against Russia. ..
      1. Tuzik
        Tuzik 4 December 2019 17: 56
        0
        So what else can they do? Crimea will not be returned, but the offense will sit for a long time
  18. askort154
    askort154 4 December 2019 17: 09
    +4
    The proposal to ban electricity supplies from Russia was made by the head of the Rada committee on energy and utilities Andrey Gerus

    Take a walk the field went into the runaway. Housing and communal services already steers interstate relations. good
  19. Igoresha
    Igoresha 4 December 2019 17: 10
    -2
    Rada did the Russians a favor, because
    Rosіya is selling їн Ukrainian electricity is cheaper, lower than the virgin population - ЗМІ

    https://gordonua.com/news/politics/rossiya-prodaet-ukraine-elektroenergiyu-deshevle-chem-svoemu-naseleniyu-smi-1462804.html
  20. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 4 December 2019 17: 12
    0
    This is the question - how is it beneficial for the Ukrainian economy?
    Because of this ban, will a simple man in the outskirts live better?
    The fact of the matter is that no.
    A typical political decision and flirting with a frenzied part of Ukrainian society.
  21. Alien From
    Alien From 4 December 2019 17: 12
    +1
    No wonder, my beloved Khokhlozabava .... to spite my grandmother I will frostbite my ears .....)
  22. Piramidon
    Piramidon 4 December 2019 17: 25
    -1
    Ukraine has banned the supply of electricity from Russia

    And right there
    In early October, Ukraine returned to electricity imports from Russia, which was suspended in 2015.

    So banned or allowed? I don’t understand. request
  23. Sitearvi
    Sitearvi 4 December 2019 17: 30
    0
    Will not buy from us, they will buy through Belarus, but a little bit more expensive.
  24. Jerk
    Jerk 4 December 2019 17: 35
    -2
    - Dad, something doesn’t work for me ...
    - - Donya, I jumped the switch! Glory to Ukraine! Haha those computer - time to go!
    - (in unison) Hiroyamsavan!
  25. Karaul14
    Karaul14 4 December 2019 17: 39
    +1
    These deliveries were in scanty quantities, Ukraine was pretty well electrified, with more than 50% being produced at nuclear power plants, and only France had a larger percentage (70%). At the same time, Ukraine both imports and exports electricity, this is due to some technical and economic issues.
    1. Jerk
      Jerk 4 December 2019 18: 05
      -4
      Yeah, but they BECAME in miserable - after the terrorist attack near the Crimea ... Before that, transit was not bad, we were to the outskirts, outskirts - to the Crimea ...
  26. Berkut24
    Berkut24 4 December 2019 17: 48
    -1
    The right decision on the eve of the cold snap, when the whole winter is ahead, and gas supplies from January 1 will most likely not be. And yes, Russian coal went to China, and Donetsk to Poland. Keep it up!
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  27. gridasov
    gridasov 4 December 2019 17: 51
    +1
    these si again raise the people to the barricades.
  28. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 4 December 2019 17: 56
    0
    Ukraine has banned the supply of electricity from Russia and the Russians quietly push it through the wires at night
  29. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 4 December 2019 18: 19
    +1
    Quote: Igoresha
    I want to build an oil refinery and sell products of high processing)

    So, it’s better to build factories for the production of computer equipment, electronic equipment, cars, ships, space rockets ..... You’ll earn money .....
    1. Rzzz
      Rzzz 5 December 2019 07: 44
      0
      Quote: Vkd dvk
      Money earn .....

      If. Taxes crush, stand out clean.
  30. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 4 December 2019 18: 23
    0
    Quote: Berkut24
    The right decision on the eve of the cold snap, when the whole winter is ahead, and gas supplies from January 1 will most likely not be. And yes, Russian coal went to China, and Donetsk to Poland. Keep it up!

    And, especially if you take this information into account .... Very good ...
    1. Avior
      Avior 4 December 2019 23: 10
      -3
      The tablet for this fomkin is not serious
      To spend on gas average salary in Ukraine - today it is 28 thousand rubles - you need to live alone in a mansion of 500 square meters, Ukraine is not a northern country
      In reality, for an ordinary family, gas consumption is 400 cubic meters per average house in the coldest Winter months, 200 in November, and even in December, that is, with two workers, this is 4-8 thousand rubles for gas in the heating season from 50 thousand rubles of salary to Cold month
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    1. Avior
      Avior 4 December 2019 22: 43
      +1
      In Russia, unlike Ukraine, there is no single price for electricity
      And the neighboring Belgorod pays 4 rubles
      https://energybase.ru/tariff/belgorod/2019?TariffSearch%5Btype_id%5D=electricity
  32. svoit
    svoit 4 December 2019 18: 44
    -1
    If they want, then Belarusian energy must be banned (since Muscovites can swear it), then gas from Poland, Slovakia and others must also be banned from importing, right now, where is the guarantee that the bourgeoisie will not slip the Muscovite gas? Only through Odessa can pure American LNG be imported (and here you can’t lose vigilance, it’s not an hour’s time as under the guise of an American they’ll put LNG from Yamal).
  33. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 December 2019 18: 45
    +1
    Quote: Avior
    The reason on the surface is the hryvnia has appreciably strengthened and Russian electricity has fallen significantly for Ukrainians, it is more difficult for local to compete

    This is a question from the series - why do American cars drive slower than European ones? so there are miles, and we have kilometers, and they travel the same way. The nominal value of notes does not mean anything, Russia will conduct a denomination tomorrow and our currency will be the strongest in the world, which will obviously not reflect the current economic situation. Ukraine and any other country can do the same. It is important to look at the dynamics - before the known events, the course was 1: 4, now less than to 1: 3; conclusion: their economy has fallen stronger than ours. laughing
    1. Avior
      Avior 4 December 2019 23: 15
      -1
      Isn't that your gas sign above?
      As frivolous as this post
      It's simple, the hryvnia has strengthened, which means that for Russian electricity in mushroom you need to pay 5-10 percent less than before
      And Ukrainian electricity in hryvnias remained at the same level, that’s the whole explanation of the situation
  34. awg75
    awg75 4 December 2019 19: 05
    +2
    it is in our power to make sure that they have electricity at cosmic prices. but unfortunately our leadership sponsors Maidan sponsors and the anti-Russian junta. why? I do not understand.
  35. rocket757
    rocket757 4 December 2019 19: 19
    +1
    . Ukraine has banned the supply of electricity from Russia

    They will pay for EVERYTHING ..... those who chose IT!
    With whom you hang on, that’s what you’ll get! Who are their molded friends .... Baltic sisters! Then everything is clear.
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  37. Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 4 December 2019 20: 27
    0
    [quote] Ukraine banned the supply of electricity from Russia under bilateral agreements. / quote]
    This means that now electricity from Russia will be supplied through third parties. As the saying goes: "they are at the door, and we are at the window"
    Only business, nothing personal smile
  38. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 4 December 2019 20: 49
    +1
    Quote: bk316
    In such a scenario, oil will cost space

    For a long time, almost all of the oil goes either through Friendship to Klaipeda or via BPS to Primorsk.
    There it is loaded onto tankers and further by sea. AND DO NOT BECOME A SPACE.

    WELL WHY DO PEOPLE WRITE ANY FIGURE? IN FACT ALL DATA IS OPEN. WHAT PERSONALLY HINDERED YOU TO DOG the "export oil companies of the Russian Federation"?

    These nonsense do not know how to read. They were taught only to write. The stress in a word can be put in two places at once. In order not to be mistaken.
  39. aleksandroff
    aleksandroff 4 December 2019 21: 08
    0
    Quote: aleksandroff
    usa only dream of driving oil and gas, although no less than a superpower
  40. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 4 December 2019 23: 28
    +1
    Quote: Avior
    The tablet for this fomkin is not serious
    To spend on gas average salary in Ukraine - today it is 28 thousand rubles - you need to live alone in a mansion of 500 square meters, Ukraine is not a northern country
    In reality, for an ordinary family, gas consumption is 400 cubic meters per average house in the coldest Winter months, 200 in November, and even in December, that is, with two workers, this is 4-8 thousand rubles for gas in the heating season from 50 thousand rubles of salary to Cold month

    My mother always measured the money drunk by dad (it was extremely rare) the amount of meat not bought.
    You do not understand, and, at the same time, express your opinion. Ask again what kind of table, its purpose and methodology of comparison.
    And then you will not sit in a puddle.
  41. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 4 December 2019 23: 42
    +1
    Quote: wkd dvk
    Quote: Avior
    The tablet for this fomkin is not serious
    To spend on gas average salary in Ukraine - today it is 28 thousand rubles - you need to live alone in a mansion of 500 square meters, Ukraine is not a northern country
    In reality, for an ordinary family, gas consumption is 400 cubic meters per average house in the coldest Winter months, 200 in November, and even in December, that is, with two workers, this is 4-8 thousand rubles for gas in the heating season from 50 thousand rubles of salary to Cold month

    My mother always measured the money drunk by dad (it was extremely rare) the amount of meat not bought.
    You do not understand, and, at the same time, express your opinion. Ask again what kind of table, its purpose and methodology of comparison.
    And then you will not sit in a puddle.

    I will continue. Not only to sit in a puddle, but also to blow bubbles there.
    You need to lie skillfully.

    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 4 December 2019 23: 54
      -2
      10,1 thousand UAH

      And which blockhead counted so?
  42. Moonsund
    Moonsund 4 December 2019 23: 43
    +1
    Lord, kill these idiots with lightning! How is everyone already sick of them. The day when I don’t hear anything about Ukraine will be the happiest at least this year.
  43. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 4 December 2019 23: 57
    +1
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    10,1 thousand UAH

    And which blockhead counted so?

    https://visasam.ru/emigration/pereezdsng/zarplata-v-ukraine.html
    Present here.
    But I think the horns there will be broken off quickly.
  44. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 5 December 2019 00: 12
    +1
    Quote: Avior
    Isn't that your gas sign above?
    As frivolous as this post
    It's simple, the hryvnia has strengthened, which means that for Russian electricity in mushroom you need to pay 5-10 percent less than before
    And Ukrainian electricity in hryvnias remained at the same level, that’s the whole explanation of the situation



    You are lying godlessly, a scumbag.
  45. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 5 December 2019 00: 18
    +2
    Quote: Avior
    The tablet for this fomkin is not serious
    To spend on gas average salary in Ukraine - today it is 28 thousand rubles - you need to live alone in a mansion of 500 square meters, Ukraine is not a northern country
    In reality, for an ordinary family, gas consumption is 400 cubic meters per average house in the coldest Winter months, 200 in November, and even in December, that is, with two workers, this is 4-8 thousand rubles for gas in the heating season from 50 thousand rubles of salary to Cold month


    You need to lie skillfully. Where did such a salary come from in Ukrainian?
  46. Bear040
    Bear040 5 December 2019 01: 53
    +1
    Here it would still forbid their gasters and patriots of Ukraine to be on the territory of the Russian Federation
  47. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 5 December 2019 10: 23
    +1
    Well done, which, over time, their nuclear power plants do not grow younger, a lot of cracks were found in the Dnieper Dam, and the anthracite from the Donbass for the CHP is less and less.

    Continue in the same vein, soon you will switch to dung))
  48. musorg
    musorg 5 December 2019 11: 54
    0
    And we will supply her with this oil for 10 years!
  49. 23424636
    23424636 5 December 2019 12: 22
    0
    Akhmeov paid a forbidden bill, which allowed in the conditions of a free energy market to buy cheap electricity from Russia, which Kolomoisky had once broken through for his ferroalloy plant. In this Russian current, there could well have been a fraction of 2 thermal plants from the unconquered Donbass - Starobeshevskaya and Zugres-2.
  50. Yury Siritsky
    Yury Siritsky 5 December 2019 13: 31
    0
    Here are the morons.