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In Finland, showed a video of exercises to repel the "aggression of Russia"

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The Finnish Ministry of Defense has published on its official Youtube channel videos from exercises taking place in the southeast of the country, where they worked out a reflection of possible foreign aggression against the republic. More specifically, the video tells about the work of military doctors: it shows the process from the rapid deployment of a field hospital to helping the "wounded", the role of which is played by the military.


During training, the medical unit closely monitored the combat units so that the “wounded” could receive proper care as soon as possible. It is noted that the personnel of the army emergency department consists of reservists with experience in similar work in the civilian sphere.

The joint exercises of the Finnish Defense Forces and the country's border service are held from November 27 to December 4 2019. They involved about 12 000 people and about 2200 pieces of equipment.

Although the adversary was not directly called in official reports, the Finnish press was more frank and directly indicated that it was about protecting against a possible attack from Russia. This is evidenced by the geography of the exercises that took place near the border with the Russian Federation, and the fact that they started on the eve of the eightieth anniversary of the beginning of the Winter War.

State-owned media [RF] constantly provoke hostility towards the Finns, for example, they have recently claimed that Finland launched the Winter War [...] Finland is not threatened by any state other than Russia

- the user Jussi Eronen writes in comments.

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Ministry of Defense of Finland
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 4 December 2019 14: 07
    +5
    In Finland, showed a video of exercises to repel the "aggression of Russia"

    How enraged them all! All reflect and reflect!
    And if you recall how it really was and WILL be, if you play, some are nervous and zealous!
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 4 December 2019 14: 12
      -4
      Quote: rocket757
      In Finland, showed a video of exercises to repel the "aggression of Russia"

      How enraged them all! All reflect and reflect!
      And if you recall how it really was and WILL be, if you play, some are nervous and zealous!

      Yes, everything is fine, normally, we are in their place, we would just haunt, let them frolic. the country is small, they know that if we "cover" the Leningrad region ", well how to live here? do you need to scare the population? you need to!, because they scare us with" nata "which is not in real life? scare, and scare" states " in the case of "kipesha". so let the "scans" have fun as they can ...
      1. dorz
        dorz 4 December 2019 14: 31
        +3
        In Finland, a video was shown ...

        Let them see photos of past exercises. laughing
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 4 December 2019 17: 49
          +2
          Quote: dorz
          Let them see photos of past exercises.

          They can’t even imagine such a landscape, in their swamps and forests!
          But maybe it can become like that, not even through their fault and not ours !!! it’s just that if their zealous allies don’t calm down, completely get rid of and climb to where they weren’t called! Allied commitments are also an appropriate, allied response!
    2. Valery Valery
      Valery Valery 4 December 2019 14: 22
      +2
      What do you feel sorry for? Yes, let them play war !! For the sake of interest, read about how they serve in the Finnish defense forces - it will become funny - the pioneer camp and the game "Zarnitsa"! hi
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 4 December 2019 14: 29
        +1
        Quote: Valery Valery
        it will be funny -

        In 1939, too, they laughed
        1. iConst
          iConst 4 December 2019 14: 56
          +1
          Quote: RUSS
          In 1939, too, they laughed

          In the middle of the 30s of the last century, it all started almost like that. Dates began to stick with anti-Soviet forces, with Britain in the first place.
          And, I remind you, the plans for the violent overthrow of the USSR then stood at full height. Socialist ideas and successes greatly disturbed the Western proletariat, and the capitalists were very alarmed.

          Therefore, the use of Finland as a springboard for an attack was far from zero, but even the most probable. And, let me remind you - Petrograd-Leningrad, at that time, concentrated about a third of high-tech and heavy industry. And the border is 36 kilometers away.
          Therefore, even a short-term seizure was equivalent to the loss of more than a third of industry.

          Hence the unsuccessful negotiations on changing borders and the subsequent war with the Finns, who were furious with Britons.
        2. orionvitt
          orionvitt 4 December 2019 16: 40
          +1
          Quote: RUSS
          In 1939, too, they laughed

          And in 1944 they surrendered without waiting for the end of the war. Friskily threw their ally and arms up. They knew perfectly well what kirdyk would be to them. So you need to judge by the final results, and not by intermediate events. By the way, at 39, the Red Army gained invaluable experience.
          1. maidan.izrailovich
            maidan.izrailovich 5 December 2019 04: 40
            0
            By the way, at 39, the Red Army gained invaluable experience.

            Well, and why this phrase without thinking? What "experience"? Why then retreated 1,5 years to the Volga? Where did the "experience" go?
            It would be more accurate to say that they did not learn from the mistakes made in the Finnish company.
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 5 December 2019 07: 25
              -1
              Quote: maidan.izrailovich
              It would be more accurate to say that they did not learn from the mistakes made in the Finnish company.

              Then he "had" from the Germans the lessons of the "new war". These were hard, bloody lessons ...
              Thanks to the grandfathers for their stamina, heroism, otherwise ....
            2. orionvitt
              orionvitt 5 December 2019 16: 04
              0
              Quote: maidan.izrailovich
              Well, and why this phrase without thinking? What "experience"?

              What kind of experience? Normal, warfare. According to the results of the Finnish war, large-scale rearmament has begun, both in rifle units and in the field of heavy weapons. And on the issue
              Why then retreated 1,5 years to the Volga?
              Do you even turn off your head when you write? Because then, the Red Army fought with the most powerful army on the planet.By the way, with the Finns as well. Again, while we learned to fight against such an enemy, until we accumulated a certain combat experienceretreated. Do you remember the result of the war? Let me remind you, the red flag over the Reichstag.
        3. knn54
          knn54 4 December 2019 16: 59
          +2
          RUSS in 1939 also laughed
          And in 1940, the Finns lost 11% of their territory.
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 4 December 2019 17: 30
            0
            Quote: knn54
            RUSS in 1939 also laughed
            And in 1940, the Finns lost 11% of their territory.

            And we paid 125000 for this, well, apparently 11% of the land is more important to you than thousands of victims.
          2. opus
            opus 4 December 2019 19: 48
            +2
            Quote: knn54
            And in 1940, the Finns lost 11% of their territory.

            But what could be different?

            Stalin: “What, are you threatening me?”

            The collection "Stalin in the light of the world press and caricature", Dresden, 1941
            A. Gogun: “The USSR in the mirror of Nazi propaganda. Black PR Adolf Hitler »» »»

            was it worth it ...
        4. Kunar
          Kunar 4 December 2019 22: 01
          0
          And how in 1944 they laughed
      2. 1536
        1536 4 December 2019 15: 00
        -4
        In 1939, these "pioneers" had a favorite pastime, secretly sneaking into the location of Soviet units located in the regions bordering with Finland, to kill sleeping Red Army soldiers with a blow to the ear with a ramrod.
        The Finns know how to fight in the Far North and fight well, therefore all their "pranks" are by no means harmless. And the recent statement by one of the nationalist organizations in Finland about "returning Karelia to them" in general paints "Zarnitsa" in crimson tones.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 4 December 2019 15: 33
          +3
          Quote: 1536
          colors "Zarnitsa" in crimson tones.

          The guys there are so ... They behave well only if the genitals are clamped in a vice.
          Otherwise, the Vyborg massacre and Finnish concentration camps in which mortality was higher than in the Nazi.
          1. maidan.izrailovich
            maidan.izrailovich 5 December 2019 04: 49
            -1
            Otherwise, the Vyborg massacre and Finnish concentration camps in which mortality was higher than in the Nazi.

            In vain did Stalin feel sorry for them. It was necessary to return to the Empire. So many people we put for a piece of land. These losses could only be justified by the inclusion of all of Finland in the Union. But this option should always be kept in mind if the Finns do not want to remember history.
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 5 December 2019 07: 27
              0
              Quote: maidan.izrailovich
              It was necessary to return to the Empire.

              A controversial, problematic solution could turn out!
        2. orionvitt
          orionvitt 4 December 2019 16: 45
          +1
          Quote: 1536
          Finns know how to fight in the conditions of the Far North and fight well,

          You want to be able to say? These warriors in the Far North, migrants from Africa, bend as they want, and very successfully. And they are waiting for aggression from Russia. Here the words of Lavrov are appropriate.
          1. Kunar
            Kunar 4 December 2019 22: 04
            0
            for sure)))) In Lingonberry saw a bunch of veliks))))
        3. rocket757
          rocket757 4 December 2019 17: 52
          0
          Quote: 1536
          Finns know how to fight in conditions

          Maybe I can \ whether ... but we know how to WIN EVERYWHERE! this is a big difference and a reminder, the most zealous or stupid, doesn’t matter. That will be all.
      3. Baloo
        Baloo 4 December 2019 15: 39
        0
        Quote: Valery Valery
        What do you feel sorry for? Yes, let them play war !! For the sake of interest, read about how they serve in the Finnish defense forces - it will become funny - the pioneer camp and the game "Zarnitsa"! hi

        I'm still waiting for when they will conduct exercises to repel the attack of aliens? belay
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 December 2019 14: 54
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      How enraged them all! All reflect and reflect!

      They forgot the efforts of Messrs. Kollontai and Zarubina, as well as the kindness of Comrade Stalin, who decided not to punish "old Man" and did not make Finland a part of the Karelian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 4 December 2019 14: 57
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Forgot the efforts of Messrs. Kollontai and Zarubina, as well as the kindness of Comrade Stalin,

        History should be remembered that they would not repeat the mistakes of the past ...
    4. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 4 December 2019 15: 11
      +1
      It’s good to repel .. when there are no attackers ..
      Here's even more .. smoked .. "Will the NATO military exercise Defender Europe 2020 start a war?
      04.12.2019"
      https://www.belvpo.com/108804.html/
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 4 December 2019 15: 12
        0
        Quote: To be or not to be
        It’s good to repel .. when there are no attackers ..
        Here's even more .. smoked .. "Will the NATO military exercise Defender Europe 2020 start a war?
        04.12.2019"
        https://www.belvpo.com/108804.html/

        The student made a map
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 4 December 2019 15: 37
          +3
          Quote: RUSS
          The student made a map

          Yes, now adults have become like schoolchildren.
      2. Servisinzhener
        Servisinzhener 4 December 2019 17: 00
        +1
        I wonder what kind of education the author of this article, Vladimir Vuyachich, has. Did he self-inflicted blow directions and for what reasons.
        Returning to the year 41, the Germans took about 2 months to travel from Minsk to Moscow. And in the battle for Moscow, German losses were not less than half a million. Is the modern west ready for such losses?
    5. PSih2097
      PSih2097 4 December 2019 18: 05
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      How enraged them all! All reflect and reflect!

      from that de opera ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 4 December 2019 18: 50
        0
        Quote: PSih2097
        from that de opera ...

        Watched. Cool!
        You should not think that some of the citizens of foreign countries do not understand anything ... like with us, and everywhere, those who understand the minority do not solve anything and console themselves ... with such funs.
      2. Kunar
        Kunar 4 December 2019 22: 14
        0
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjBBBg8slik
    6. opus
      opus 4 December 2019 19: 41
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      How enraged them all! All reflect and reflect!

      article fake golem
      Quote: anonymous author
      In Finland, showed a video of exercises to repel the "aggression of Russia"

      anonymous author (as always):
      1.No link
      2. The phrase to reflect the "aggression of Russia" [is a figment of the imagination of sick brains, well, or the bastards just lie, maybe there is nothing to report on success, and there is at least an enemy.
      3.
      Quote: anonymous author
      Jussi Eronen writes in comments.

      video description:
      During the exercises in southeast 19, the provincial company of South Kymenlaakso practiced restricting enemy landings. During battles, the Company’s ambulance unit closely monitors the combat units so that the wounded can be treated as soon as possible. The staff of the Provincial Emergency Department consists of reservists with experience in the civilian sphere. The high quality of combat paramedics is guaranteed by the professional skills of reservists.

      and here is Jussi Eronen and why he said so (google translation sorry)

      and who is Alexander Zbitnev?
      Quote: Alexander Zbitnev
      If the enemy attacks Finland, we, Russia, will help our Finnish friends maintain the independence of the country.

      yes here he is (I hope he is the author of this bad article?)

      cutie.
      4.About the teachings, here
      https://maavoimat.fi/en/kaakko-19-en
      ZERO (!) Zero words about
      Quote: anonymous author
      to repel the "aggression of Russia"

      Kaakko 19
      Organized in the Southeast Finland Region from November 27 to December 4, 2019, the main exercises of the Finnish Defense Forces Kaakko 19 focus on learning to use shared operational capabilities Finnish Defense Forces with the Finnish Border Guard and willingness to respond to rapidly developing situations in Southeast Finland.


      Conclusion: The author of this article, the same propagandist as the empty chimes of Solovyov or Kiselev.
      as if part 1 of article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, according to which

      2017
      Petrograd District Court of St. Petersburg sentenced local resident Anatoly Pleshanov, found guilty in inciting hatred of Ukrainians and humiliating citizens of Central Asian countriesby one year of probation

      hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 4 December 2019 20: 08
        0
        No problem. The Finns are not friends, but rather pragmatic.
        They lie on all sides, so links to someone specific are already late, their SERIES.
        Again, they lie, for the love of "art", for hire.
        Hire for various reasons, including to cover their affairs, different.
        The reaction to the article / fake corresponds to the content and general background around.
        I would say that the capitalist international "rules" around, but this should also have real confirmation !!!
        The capitalists of all countries act in a communicative manner, despite all friction, it is worth proposing the obvious "Workers of all countries unite"!
        1. opus
          opus 4 December 2019 20: 44
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          No problem. The Finns are not friends, but rather pragmatic.

          Finns are normal. You don’t have to rush them. With them it is quite possible to live peacefully and still have dividends from this.

          Quote: rocket757
          They lie on all sides

          Do you know what TopVar is called outside of TopVar?
          topzashqvar
          1. Kunar
            Kunar 4 December 2019 22: 45
            0
            and live and have ...... and beat if necessary ...))) one does not interfere with the other)))))
    7. Karaul14
      Karaul14 5 December 2019 01: 51
      -1
      Quote: rocket757
      How enraged them all! All reflect and reflect!
      And if you recall how it really was and WILL be, if you play, some are nervous and zealous!
      I recall only how in the 39th USSR, simply with huge, simply incomparable losses, I barely recaptured a small piece of territory from Finland, how recently Russia could not defeat small Chechnya, and signed some agreements with it.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 5 December 2019 07: 33
        0
        Quote: Karaul14
        I recall only how in the 39th USSR

        It's not here now ... though it's hard, we learn and WIN! If it hadn't been repeated, the previous "lessons" had not been discarded as unnecessary, there would have been no reason, reason, to periodically overexert myself and start "learning" again and again!
        Yes, and those who want to try us for "lice" diminished in 0 ... no one wants to get involved with a country that is mindful and angry if it is pissed off!
        1. Karaul14
          Karaul14 5 December 2019 17: 51
          0
          For the time being I don’t see the lessons learned, but I see ridicule and exclamations about how easily Russia will defeat everyone, given that these ridicule often goes over the EU and NATO countries, which won’t be able to fight separately.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 5 December 2019 18: 02
            0
            Quote: Karaul14
            which will not work separately.

            And remind me when RUSSIA and with whom alone fought ??? So that one on one and in the ranks of the enemy, or next to him, no one was stamped ???
            For some reason it seems to me that Russia has always climbed with SCOPE !!! And they shook off, as a rule, "a friendly bunch"!
            PS ... you can’t remember the primitive times, it’s too painful there everything is not accurate, approximately.
            1. Karaul14
              Karaul14 5 December 2019 21: 34
              0
              Yes, with the same Finland at 39m and in Chechnya recently, one by one, it seems. And quite often, Russia didn’t fight by itself, having at least situational allies; many states also fought against Napoleon. One can’t even talk about the First World War, the Entente ended the first war without Russia in general, Russia withdrew from the war by a peace treaty with Germany before the defeat of the losing side. In the Second World War there were also many situational allies, I think that if Germany had not fought on 2 fronts, the USSR would have lost, the USSR itself refused to fight on 2 fronts, declaring war on Japan only when everything became clear in Europe.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 5 December 2019 22: 36
                +1
                Reverting the story did not prove anything, except perhaps his .......
                Where did Russia fight and lose its territory, sovereignty and what else is there? finally and irrevocably? But this is the result of the war !!!! Loss of territory, sovereignty and something else important!
                You can speculate about the Russo-Japanese, the beginning of the last century ... well, then they raked in full and now they are boring. Crimean War ..... okay, for a while they were left without a fleet and fortresses, kutsenko victories, you can’t find it, and after all EVERYBODY, who at that time at least something meant, militarily, from the geyropei powers, got into trouble! There is nothing to talk about the rest. Everyone who came here, even in droves, finally raked off.
                In general, Russia gathered all its own, sensitively returned its former and all.
                That’s the whole result! And it is unlikely that anyone would dare to stick here at the moment, for SCARY!
                Let them rejoice that we do not need anything, we have plenty of ours.
                1. Karaul14
                  Karaul14 6 December 2019 16: 54
                  0
                  I’m not saying that I lost, I refute the words that supposedly Russia always fought alone against all, this is not so.

                  Quote: rocket757
                  Let them rejoice that we do not need anything, we have plenty of ours.
                  That it is visible, until the age of 14, too, nothing was needed, then Crimea, I wanted to. That's all they are preparing, but you never know what, now it’s not necessary, then it will be needed, there is already a precedent.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 6 December 2019 17: 55
                    0
                    Quote: Karaul14
                    then Crimea, I wanted to.

                    Lies. Kukuevsky themselves made a mess, an unconstitutional coup and the territories fled from them.
  2. RUSS
    RUSS 4 December 2019 14: 09
    -16
    Quote: rocket757
    And if you recall how it really was

    And how? The Finns defended their independence with the least loss.
    1. Ka-52
      Ka-52 4 December 2019 14: 11
      +14
      And how? The Finns defended their independence with the least loss.

      in which is this alternative universe? They rushed in time to make peace with the USSR, when they realized that purging the company was not inevitable and that the country's full occupation was ahead.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 4 December 2019 14: 13
        -16
        Quote: Ka-52
        in which is this alternative universe?

        On March 12, 1940, the first Finnish war ended. The Finnish Republic lost 26 thousand people, the Soviet Union - more than 126 thousand.
        1. Ka-52
          Ka-52 4 December 2019 14: 18
          +11
          On March 2, 1940, the first Finnish war ended. The Finnish Republic lost 26 thousand people, the Soviet Union - more than 126 thousand.

          this is not a label for you, read selectively. I repeat once again: it was the Finnish side, realizing the futility of military resistance, that rushed to conclude with the USSR peace treaty on its terms... And she did it quite in time for herself. This suggests that the Finns did not have any "victory" in the winter war. It is only in the minds of some ... who are not familiar with reality. And the losses, they are for that and the war, that the losses. You also say that Germany defeated the Soviet Union in WW2, because it suffered fewer losses of combatants. Where are you educated only?
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 4 December 2019 14: 43
            +4
            Quote: Ka-52
            On March 12, 1940, the first Finnish war ended.

            Dear, you need to know the story. The first Finnish one began in March 1918 and ended in October 1920 with the signing of the Tartu Peace Treaty, according to which Russia suffered territorial losses.
            It was started by the Finns
        2. fighter angel
          fighter angel 4 December 2019 15: 08
          +1
          of Russian
          Loss data from "pedigree", right?
          This is not serious!
          Losses of the Red Army in the "winter" war of 1939-1940. according to various estimates of specialists, they make up from 55 thousand to 88 thousand people.
        3. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 4 December 2019 15: 50
          0
          In general, the Finns "lost" (according to their statistics) less than 10% of the official strength of their army at the age of 39, which means they simply got cold feet at such not the greatest losses, or the losses were MUCH more! Nobody considers the Finns to be cowards, which means the latter.
      2. Professor
        Professor 4 December 2019 14: 16
        -20
        Quote: Ka-52
        And how? The Finns defended their independence with the least loss.

        in which is this alternative universe?

        Just in ours in the Universe. Lost part of the territory, but repelled the enemy’s appetite for expansion and defended independence.
        1. MoJloT
          MoJloT 4 December 2019 14: 24
          +7
          Just in ours in the Universe.
          What you can’t say about you)
        2. Sovpadenie
          Sovpadenie 4 December 2019 14: 28
          +8
          Have you lost your appetite?
          I would say that the USSR allowed them to maintain their independence. Moreover, he repeated this in 1944, when Finland requested a truce
          1. MoJloT
            MoJloT 4 December 2019 14: 32
            +7
            I would say that the USSR allowed them to maintain their independence.
            It can be added that the USSR created the state of Finland, which did not exist before, and was the first to recognize it! But in this case, talking seriously is useless.
        3. Ka-52
          Ka-52 4 December 2019 14: 29
          +9
          Just in ours in the Universe. Lost part of the territory, but repelled the enemy’s appetite for expansion and defended independence.

          hahaha))) underprofessional, it is not necessary to carry your "exclusive" vision here. You have disgraced yourself on this more than once. The USSR did not have a strategic plan to capture Finland as a whole. The establishment of a puppet government is possible. But this is far from the same thing. The territory that was ceded to the USSR under the peace treaty was the subject of negotiations on October 39. The Finns initiated the conclusion of a peace treaty, not the USSR. If you think that surrender is a victory, then what else to discuss? laughing So we don't need to pour water about "small but proud people ...."
        4. Lopatov
          Lopatov 4 December 2019 14: 30
          +11
          Quote: Professor
          Just in ours in the Universe. Lost part of the territory, but repelled the enemy’s appetite for expansion and defended independence.

          They capitulated twice.
          We lost "part of the territory" twice. In total - 1/10 part
          Plus also sickly reparations paid. A quarter of a billion dollars in post-war Europe is a lot.
          "But they defended their independence" (c) laughing laughing laughing
        5. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 4 December 2019 14: 42
          +7
          Quote: Professor
          Lost part of the territory, but repelled the enemy’s appetite for expansion and defended independence.

          The most tangible and visible result for all is the Finns' consent to the territorial claims of the Soviet Union in a much larger volume than was envisaged by the peace negotiations of 1938-1939.

          Finland lost more than 34 thousand km2 of its land in a strategically important area. The Karelian Isthmus, the water area of ​​Lake Ladoga were completely under the control of the USSR. The state border, which previously passed approximately 20 km from Leningrad, moved 150 km. The border also moved away from Murmansk.
          In addition, the fate of a number of islands in the Gulf of Finland, previously owned by the Principality of Finland, was decided in favor of the USSR. This favored the development of the Baltic Fleet.

          And of course, an invaluable experience ...
          - Deficiencies in the training of middle and junior level commanders were taken into account and corrected, measures were taken to strengthen the discipline of ordinary personnel.

          - Following the example of the Finns' successful actions, special mobile units of skiers were created for military operations in winter conditions.

          - The practice of Finnish “partisan actions” has largely laid the foundation for the organization of future anti-fascist partisan units.

          - The practice of overcoming the mined terrain was developed, methods of combating minefields were mastered.

          - Having assessed the effect of the Finns using submachine guns, experts revised their attitude to the domestic model of this weapon. The Degtyarev submachine gun, previously rejected, was finalized and adopted by the army. Subsequently, PPSh was created on its basis.

          - The Finns “taught” our fighters to use the “Molotov cocktail” in the fight against tanks and armored vehicles. Molotov cocktails in large quantities were produced by our industry and were actively used by our troops in the battles of 1941-1942 against fascist technology.
        6. bukhach
          bukhach 4 December 2019 14: 57
          +1
          Well, based on the fact that the Soviet Union initially set the goal of destroying Finland as a state, it’s true yours defended. And if you look from the other side, then not accepting the conditions in negotiations with the USSR and peacefully expanding your territory in exchange for part of yours, these conditions to fulfill without compensation and even with large material losses, not to mention the population. As they say, if you don’t want the good, it will be the bad. Honestly, I don’t understand why Stalin did not roll Finland in the 40th, and even less so in 44. There were enough forces and means for this Finns at this time on its last legs and breathe in spite of their resistance would not have resisted.
          1. Professor
            Professor 5 December 2019 11: 40
            +2
            1. Independence defended their Finns. They did not become a republic of the USSR and did not become yet another communist regime controlled from Moscow.
            2. Dzhugashvili got a strong tooth. little blood did not work.
            3. The Finnish "cocktail for Molotov" has entered the world lexicon.
            4. The whole world saw the vile lies of Moscow. I especially remembered "we are dropping bread from planes to the starving in Helsinki."
      3. RUSS
        RUSS 4 December 2019 14: 31
        -19
        Quote: Ka-52
        They rushed in time to make peace with the USSR, when they realized that purging the company was not inevitable and the full occupation of the country was ahead.

        During the first day of the war, the Red Army occupied the first Finnish settlement - the village of Terioki, where the People's Government was created there, headed by the Moscow communist Finnish Otto Kuusinen. This government was immediately recognized by the Soviet Union, and on December 2 negotiations were held in Moscow between the government of the “Finland Democratic Republic” led by Otto Kuusinen and the Soviet government led by V. Molotov, at which the Treaty of Mutual Assistance and Friendship was signed. Stalin, Voroshilov and Zhdanov also took part in the negotiations. Moscow has announced that the previous Finnish government has fled and therefore no longer runs the country. The USSR declared in the League of Nations that from now on it would only negotiate with the new government. Here you go !! This is the number! So they “pushed the borders” to a safe distance!
        Further more. The Finnish People’s Army is being created. By November 26, there were 13 people in the corps, and in February 405, 1940 troops who wore their national uniforms. (This form was marauded at military depots in Poland.) This "people's" army was supposed to replace the occupying units of the Red Army in Finland and become the military support of the "people's" government. "Finns" in the Confederates held a parade in Leningrad. Kuusinen announced that they would be honored to hoist a red flag over the presidential palace in Helsinki. (I remind you that the goal of a “forced” war is to just “push the border” away from Leningrad!) The Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks (Bolsheviks) developed an instruction on the creation of a Popular Front in the occupied territory. And the Red Army men were learning a new drill song “Take Us, Suomi-Beauty”:
        We come to help you deal
        To pay with interest for shame.
        Take us, Suomi is a beauty
        In a necklace of transparent lakes!
        On December 13, 1939, the USSR as an aggressor country was expelled from the League of Nations. Hitlerite Germany by that time was also no longer part of the League of Nations. Outcast countries. Nice neighborhood.
        The immediate reason for the exception was the mass protests of the international community regarding the systematic bombardment of civilian objects by Soviet aircraft, including the use of incendiary bombs. When it became clear that the war was dragging out, and the Finnish people did not support the puppet government of Kuusinen, he was pushed into the shadows and was no longer mentioned about him. Frank adventure did not pass. The world had to be concluded with the legitimate government of Finland.
        The most shameful war.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 4 December 2019 14: 38
          +7
          Quote: RUSS
          The most shameful war.

          Is it shameful to take your own from the aggressor?

          They could calm down by gaining independence. However, this was not enough for them. went to aggression. As a result, they returned everything they had seized and a tenth of the territory was returned as an apology. Plus reparations.
        2. Ka-52
          Ka-52 4 December 2019 14: 41
          +4
          The immediate reason for the exception was the mass protests of the international community regarding the systematic bombardment of civilian objects by Soviet aircraft, including the use of incendiary bombs.

          I wonder how your international community then resented the carpet bombing by the Americans in German and Japanese cities.
          When it became clear that the war was dragging out, and the Finnish people did not support the puppet government of Kuusinen, they pushed him into the shadows and no longer mentioned him

          On December 13, 1939, the USSR as an aggressor country was expelled from the League of Nations. Hitlerite Germany by that time was also no longer part of the League of Nations. Outcast countries. Nice neighborhood.

          you probably write directly from the party headquarters of Poroshenko. Hand feels full of political dogmas laughing
        3. Terenin
          Terenin 4 December 2019 14: 45
          +6
          Quote: RUSS
          ... (This form was marauded at Polish military depots.)

          Well, text copying also needs to be filtered. fool according to this wording, it turns out that in military depots the adversaries secretly removed this form from killed and wounded soldiers belay
        4. Moskovit
          Moskovit 4 December 2019 14: 53
          +1
          Had to? Maybe the Finns had to crawl on their knees. By the way, Mannerheim was originally for the adoption of Soviet requirements 38-39 years. But the Finns needed to ditch 100 thousand of their citizens in order to understand the obvious things.
          The only thing I agree with you is that the Finns taught the cruel lesson of the Red Army.
        5. maden.usmanow
          maden.usmanow 4 December 2019 15: 43
          -3
          Please do not break Soviet patterns for people.
    2. Maks-80
      Maks-80 4 December 2019 14: 56
      +3
      The USSR did not set the task of capturing the whole country. And Finland initiated peace talks.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 December 2019 15: 03
      -2
      Quote: RUSS
      And how? The Finns defended their independence with the least loss.

      You see, people don't understand you, but it was exactly the way you wrote it. And the Paasikivi-Kekkonen line is still in operation. People won't understand me either.
    4. Kunar
      Kunar 4 December 2019 22: 46
      0
      they lost their territories with minimal losses ... And then. We then studied .... And in 1944, well, when we learned, tourmalians threw their scrap metal and artistically gave up ....
  3. Operator
    Operator 4 December 2019 14: 09
    +4
    And where is the white Finnish maskhalata for the cemetery in the video after being hit by Russian TNW? bully
    1. Elephant
      Elephant 4 December 2019 14: 27
      0
      Everything will be charred ... and only snow that has fallen can be white.
    2. Sovpadenie
      Sovpadenie 4 December 2019 14: 30
      0
      I was generally interested in the fact that the soldiers are not in winter camouflage. And in the photo there is only a white bottom
      1. Kunar
        Kunar 4 December 2019 22: 51
        0
        Deficiency! It should be the other way around! On khaki pants, excrement is less noticeable. And so it unmasks)
    3. maden.usmanow
      maden.usmanow 4 December 2019 15: 47
      -1
      TNW to the Finns and then radiation directly to Peter, excellent.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 4 December 2019 17: 34
        -3
        Quote: maden.usmanow
        TNW to the Finns and then radiation directly to Peter, excellent.

        Do not say it to the patriots laughing
      2. Operator
        Operator 4 December 2019 19: 38
        +6
        Learn materiel - an air explosion of a two-stage thermonuclear charge at an altitude of 1,5 km does not lead to radioactive contamination of the area.

        Light emission during an explosion above the clouds is also extinguished. An environmentally friendly shock wave remains - Greenpeace and Greta Tunberg approve.
    4. Doctor
      Doctor 4 December 2019 19: 32
      0
      And where is the white Finnish maskhalata for the cemetery in the video after being hit by Russian TNW?


      Again, you underestimate the Finns. They have been preparing for the Apocalypse since 1960. In Finland, shelters of deep abode for the whole population have long been ready.
      Stocks of food and materials have been prepared FOR 10 YEARS OF AUTONOMOUS EXISTENCE OF THE WHOLE POPULATION OF FINLAND. Taking into account the "nuclear winter effect".

      Here is an example of an underground city near Helsinki for 750 people (the population of Helsinki is 000).
      The city stands on a rocky base. 9 million cubic meters of granite recovered. There is everything, including hockey courts.





      Here's a video and a bonus for patriots. Video from the exercises of the USSR "West - 81".

      http://ufonews.su/news78/459.htm
      1. Operator
        Operator 4 December 2019 19: 53
        +3
        But will Finnish aircraft fight on the surface or while sitting in shelters? laughing
        And for how many years has the oxygen been stored in shelters - especially taking into account the closure of ground air intakes and the supply of natural gas with subsequent volumetric explosions?

        Patrioooooooooooooooooooooottttttttttt, damn it.
        1. Doctor
          Doctor 4 December 2019 20: 03
          -2
          But will Finnish aircraft fight on the surface or while sitting in shelters?


          Sitting in shelters Or do you think what will happen again, like in 1939? We will hit the Finns with TNW, and we will go quietly to conquer Suomi with an accordion. And the commanders of the Ohio nuclear submarine in the Norwegian Sea will chew gum, watching this.
          The Finns are really ready for various options, including a large-scale nuclear war.
          The question is what are we ready for.
          1. Operator
            Operator 4 December 2019 20: 07
            +3
            Sitting in shelters, you can only fight with local rats.

            What the hell do the Ohio commanders and the rest of the Americans want a nuclear adventure on their ass for? Or do you sacredly believe that they are asleep and see how to lay themselves off for the independence of Suomi?

            In general, I like the Finnish rationalization decision - in the event of a nuclear conflict with Russia, self-bury in pre-made mass graves bully
            1. Doctor
              Doctor 4 December 2019 20: 22
              -1
              especially considering the closure of ground air intakes and the supply of natural gas there with subsequent volumetric explosions?


              What the hell do the Ohio commanders and the rest of the Americans want a nuclear adventure on their ass for? Or do you sacredly believe that they are asleep and see how to lay themselves off for the independence of Suomi?


              Let's get a little closer to reality. The Finns built shelters in case of a full-scale nuclear war between the USSR and the USA.
              You jokingly suggested the option of a TNW strike in Finland, followed by smoking of the Finns from the bunkers. If this happens in reality, the West cannot but intervene. Finland is his outpost.
              1. Operator
                Operator 4 December 2019 20: 28
                +3
                I had in mind a local nuclear war in the European theater of war without its globalization in the form of nuclear strikes against the national territories of the USA and Russia (as well as Britain, France, China, India, Pakistan, Israel and North Korea).

                In the event of a global nuclear war, attacks on nuclear reactors are very likely, after which shelters with a supply of food for 22 thousand years will be required.

                In general - the Finns throw everywhere, a wedge.
                1. Doctor
                  Doctor 4 December 2019 20: 42
                  -1
                  In the event of a global nuclear war, attacks on nuclear reactors are very likely, after which shelters with a supply of food for 22 thousand years will be required.


                  Yes it is possible. The same Leningrad NPP.
                  However, you must admit that not every country has such refuge for the entire population, with such reserves. And not every government cares so much for its citizens. For example, do you know where to run if something happens? Are you sure that your children will be fed for 10 years, albeit in a hole?
                  A Finn sure.
                  1. Operator
                    Operator 4 December 2019 20: 52
                    +3
                    While working at the Soviet Design Institute, and then at the Russian Ministry, I knew and was sure. Now I have a house in a village with a reinforced concrete base, a reinforced concrete utility unit with a basement, a solar battery, a personal plot, a spring, etc. etc.

                    You better get acquainted with the modern trend of building family bomb shelters in Australia, New Zealand, South America and other regions remote from Europe, Asia and North America.
              2. Kunar
                Kunar 4 December 2019 23: 01
                -1
                Finland is 140 km from St. Petersburg. What kind of nuclear weapons? You need to take knives))) But such niches are safe ... Suitable vsm.)
      2. Kunar
        Kunar 4 December 2019 22: 52
        0
        Here we are wintering)))
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 4 December 2019 14: 11
    +2
    If it weren’t for Russia, Europe would have pulled the Finnish principality for souvenirs, and now the Finns finally quarreled headlong, spitting in the direction of the country giving them a lot, starting from existence as a state, sovereignty. ....
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 December 2019 15: 07
      -3
      Quote: Thrifty
      Europe would pluck the Principality of Finland for souvenirs

      After the Second World War in Europe, the "rip-off" broke, but the overseas uncle could.
  5. Operator
    Operator 4 December 2019 14: 15
    +3
    Quote: RUSS
    with the least loss

    The defenders suffer the greatest losses after breaking through the defensive line and attacking the rear of the defenders, the second in the event of the Soviet-Finnish War of 1939-40 and WWII in 1944 were not.

    But as you know, God loves the trinity am
  6. Lopatov
    Lopatov 4 December 2019 14: 25
    +8
    for example, it has recently been claimed that Finland launched the Winter War

    Lying like breathing.
    Actually, it was a question of the war of 1918-1920. It was launched by the Finns in order to capture territories.

    In this way, in fact, he is no different from the Poles - at first aggression, occupation and annexation, and then they pose as victims, when they have to give away the "acquisitions"
  7. 4ekist
    4ekist 4 December 2019 14: 29
    0
    There is too little honey involved in the video. a stretcher, and so there are signs with a red cross. Everything is as it should be.
  8. Skay
    Skay 4 December 2019 14: 31
    0
    In Finland, showed a video of exercises to repel the "aggression of Russia"

    "Russian aggression" is irrelevant. Tell them already that NATO considers China to be more aggressive than Russia.
  9. fighter angel
    fighter angel 4 December 2019 14: 31
    0
    Strange, however, in the photo, the camouflage of these "reflectors of achressions".
    White bottom, green top. And this is in the winter!
    Does idiocy win, or is not everyone given the form?
    Just wondering, do they still have our seventy-twos, or have they all been "defeated"?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 4 December 2019 14: 39
      +2
      Quote: fighter angel
      Strange, however, in the photo, the camouflage of these "reflectors of achressions".
      White bottom, green top. And this is in the winter!

      And it is right. In the forest, this option is better.
      1. fighter angel
        fighter angel 4 December 2019 14: 51
        0
        Strange, for some reason in the RF Armed Forces the winter outfit is completely white ...
        And not only here.
        Or are the dates smarter than everyone?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 4 December 2019 14: 58
          +1
          Quote: fighter angel
          Strange, for some reason in the RF Armed Forces the winter outfit is completely white ...

          Are you sure about that? laughing
  10. JonnyT
    JonnyT 4 December 2019 14: 32
    0
    Finnish revanchism raises its head. We don’t need someone else’s land, but we won’t give up our five. If they climb, then since 2012, under each hill, their surprises are waiting for them from VPK
  11. Operator
    Operator 4 December 2019 14: 36
    +2
    Quote: fighter angel
    White bottom, green top

    DooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooHow! laughing
  12. Livonetc
    Livonetc 4 December 2019 14: 42
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Ka-52
    And how? The Finns defended their independence with the least loss.

    in which is this alternative universe?

    Just in ours in the Universe. Lost part of the territory, but repelled the enemy’s appetite for expansion and defended independence.

    This is your method.
    Here are the Palestinians and others who appetite you and beat off.
    And you all complain.
  13. usr01
    usr01 4 December 2019 14: 45
    -1
    And Putin is to blame for everything ....
    I’ll remember Finnish for you!
    Grandfather fought there.
  14. K-50
    K-50 4 December 2019 14: 50
    +1
    In Finland, showed a video of exercises to repel the "aggression of Russia"

    Probably when they come to St. Petersburg to eat vodka do not remember about any "aggression"? fellow lol
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 4 December 2019 15: 14
      -8
      Quote: K-50
      In Finland, showed a video of exercises to repel the "aggression of Russia"

      Probably when they come to St. Petersburg to eat vodka do not remember about any "aggression"? fellow lol

      As we are buying German cars
      1. K-50
        K-50 4 December 2019 15: 43
        +2
        Quote: RUSS
        As we are buying German cars

        And what do we somehow position ourselves and scare the troops and the invasion of Germany? belay
        Contra with NATO, not Germany, where are the cars? request
        Is Russia going to invade where?
        The ravings of politicians and the public are two different things. yes
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 4 December 2019 17: 35
          -1
          Quote: K-50
          And what do we somehow position ourselves and scare the troops and the invasion of Germany?

          Germany is a member of NATO, and now from every iron comes info about NATO's approach and how they plan to attack our homeland)))))
  15. Jerk
    Jerk 4 December 2019 15: 04
    -3
    Do you know ... NATO has a RDP, and they are really good ones. In the case of a bang, they will be there, and we will eat them. But they are not woodpeckers - our teeth will crumble, but we put them together - that's what we're sharpened for. But it was about the special. Now that's soft. Take those who are sharpened to beat the packed rdp ... And set projectiles on the gypsy camp! "The Russian biathlon team won Estonia by mistake"
  16. Starper-xnumx
    Starper-xnumx 4 December 2019 16: 14
    -1
    It was not without reason that the Finns moved (something is planned in NATO) .. Do they really hope that the Russians will go into a head-on attack? Heh heh we have already learned bitter experience and we have fired divisions of combat divisions .. So everything will be loud and without losses on our part .. hi
    If Russia begins to be threatened specifically already .. So think "hot Finnish guys" .. Russians are now especially angry, they are driving us into a corner in the taiga .. soldier
  17. RUS96
    RUS96 4 December 2019 16: 39
    +4
    Quote: rocket757
    as it really was and WILL

    laughing
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 4 December 2019 17: 57
      0
      Our land is RICH! It also has enough of such "mass entertainers"! I don't mind the migrants, but this "entertainer" should be limited to a lattice fence ... he won't stop himself.
  18. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 4 December 2019 16: 46
    0
    Green camouflage in the snow, what would be easier to find if lost? Then it was necessary to put on brown trousers, and suddenly they will ..
  19. rruvim
    rruvim 4 December 2019 17: 02
    0
    How nice to look at the Chukhona-Slavic faces, without any inclusions of "hardworking" migrants from other troops of the NATO countries (I'm not talking about Finland). But the modification of "Kalash" interested ...
  20. RUSS
    RUSS 4 December 2019 17: 29
    -2
    Quote: orionvitt
    By the way, at 39, the Red Army gained invaluable experience.

    And not only, after the Finnish war, Hitler finally decided to go to war against the USSR, calling him "an ear with feet of clay"
  21. Bukhalov
    Bukhalov 4 December 2019 20: 27
    -1
    Quote: Buhach
    Well, based on the fact that the Soviet Union initially set the goal of destroying Finland as a state, it’s true yours defended. And if you look from the other side, then not accepting the conditions in negotiations with the USSR and peacefully expanding your territory in exchange for part of yours, these conditions to fulfill without compensation and even with large material losses, not to mention the population. As they say, if you don’t want the good, it will be the bad. Honestly, I don’t understand why Stalin did not roll Finland in the 40th, and even less so in 44. There were enough forces and means for this Finns at this time on its last legs and breathe in spite of their resistance would not have resisted.

    After your categorical post, I remembered an old anecdote. There is a guy in jeans and the label says: Texas. Two old Jews walk behind and one says to another: "Look, Chaim, in one word there are two mistakes at once." So it is with you, mistakes. And two at once. At the first stage, the USSR demanded the signing of a treaty of friendship with Finland and the deployment of its troops on its territory to repel possible aggression against the USSR, or Suomi. Remembering very well how the signing of such agreements with Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania ended, Helsinki refused to sign such an agreement. After that, the USSR offered Finland, territories four times the territory ceded by Finland. The trick was that the territories given by the Finns included the Mannerheim Line and opened a direct route to Helsinki .... In addition, at the time of these negotiations, the USSR recognized the cabinet of the Finnish communist Kuusinen as the legitimate government of Finland in exile. After the attack on Finland, the Finns sent an urgent request to Stalin, in which they asked what caused the attack? We got the answer: "The USSR is not in a state of war with Finland, but is liberating the Finnish people from a handful of White-Finnish bandits who have settled in Helsinki." It was after such an original answer that every Finnish soldier and officer received a memo with its text and an appeal to stand to the death defending the Motherland. The statement of Finland's surrender in March 1940 is also untrue. The USSR suffered serious reputational losses in this "winter war". For three months he could not overcome the defense lines, suffered huge losses; the total number of killed, maimed and frostbitten reached 300000 people. The USSR was expelled from the League of Nations, Sweden and Norway trained 20 thousand volunteers to enter the war. England announced its decision to send an expeditionary force to help Finland. The USSR at that time was not yet ready for a full-scale war with Germany, and therefore the initiative to conclude peace was bilateral. It is known that it was the war with Finland that convinced Hitler of the Soviet Union's weakness. It was according to its results that he declared that the USSR was a colossus with feet of clay. This war accelerated the Reich's aggression against the USSR in 1941. And in 1944, Finland did not capitulate, but disarmed and interned German units on its territory. The United States and England stood up for Finland, and of course it would have been occupied by the Soviets. Read the documentary "Correspondence of Stalin, Churchill, Roosevelt". Find out what Stalin proposed to Finland at the first stage of the Second World War, in order, according to him, to "pacify" it. Everyone here has enough aplomb, but they are at odds with facts.
  22. Kunar
    Kunar 4 December 2019 21: 59
    0
    What’s all with Kalashoids?
  23. Blue fox
    Blue fox 5 December 2019 09: 14
    0
    Concentrated on watching videos and working as soldiers. Very good for reservists! I would like to hope that our "partisans" will cope with similar conditions no worse.