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Multipurpose UDC "Trieste": what is armed with the new pride of the Italian Navy

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At the end of May 2019, the new Italian Trieste universal landing ship was launched. To date, the Trieste can claim the title of the largest ship in the Italian Navy, competing only with the flagship fleet, Cavour aircraft carrier, capable of taking on board the aircraft vertical take-off and landing AV-8B Harrier II.


The new ship of the Italian fleet, although it was laid out as a UDC, is in fact at least a multi-purpose vessel or a full-fledged aircraft carrier, which is designed to base F-35B short-range take-off and landing fighters. It is no coincidence that the Trieste fleet of Italy must replace the light aircraft carrier Giuseppe Garibaldi launched in the 1983 year.

Ships for growth


The new multi-purpose universal landing ship, named Trieste, was laid down as part of the Italian program for the construction of the 2014-2015 fleet of the year. It was then that Parliament passed the law on the fleet, the total cost of financing programs for which was estimated at 5,428 billion euros. In addition to the UDC already designated, the program provided for the construction of 7 new ships of the PPA type, which were called large "patrol ships", but in reality they are frigates of a new type (initially the cost of six ships was declared at 2,5 billion euros). In addition to the designated ships, the Italian Navy will replenish with two multi-purpose special-purpose speed boats UNPAV and an integrated supply ship LLS.

In fact, in Italy they began to create a new ship formation, an analogue of American AUGs. The multi-purpose UDC “Trieste” should become the heart of the future grouping, and his retinue will be several promising frigates of the PPA project and the integrated supply ship. At the same time, the Italian military made changes to the program after its adoption. In fact, this led to an increase in the displacement and size of all ships, as well as an increase in their cost. The same UDC “Trieste” at the time of issuance of the contract significantly increased both in size and in displacement.


Initially, according to the proposed fleet law, the displacement of the new ship was to be approximately 20 thousand tons with a length of 180-190 meters. But as a result of all the changes, the UDC has grown to a full-fledged aircraft carrier with a total displacement of 33 of thousands of tons and a length of 245 meters. Now the ship is officially referred to as the "multi-purpose UDC". It is noteworthy that the new landing ship was immediately designed for the basement of the fifth-generation F-35B fighter-bombers manufactured by Lockheed Martin. At the same time, the flagship of the Italian fleet - the Cavour aircraft carrier, introduced into the fleet in the 2009 year, has a smaller displacement - from 27,5 to 30 thousand tons in various sources with comparable sizes. In fact, in the near future, the Italian fleet will have two modern aircraft-carrying ships capable of receiving F-35B aircraft on board, while also performing amphibious functions.

Separately, we can distinguish history with large patrol ships of the PPA type (Pattugliatore Polivalente d'Altura). They also experienced the influence of Italian naval doping, turning into a line of full-fledged frigates. At the same time, the first two ships really surrender as patrol, but the combat capabilities of the remaining ships of the series are significantly expanded, since the inherent displacement allows increasing their combat potential quite strongly. Initially, it was about ships with a displacement of about 4500 tons. But in the process of working on the project, PPA-type warships grew to 6000 tons, and the length increased from 133 to 146 meters, while the Italian military seriously strengthened the anti-submarine capabilities of these ships. For comparison: the modern Russian frigates of the 22350 project have a standard displacement of 4500 tons and full 5400 tons. Along with the increase in the size of ships and an increase in the composition of armaments, their value for Italian taxpayers also increased, now the entire series is estimated at least 3,9 billion euros instead of the original 2,5 billion euros.


Launching a new landing ship


Features of the multipurpose UDC "Trieste"


As you can already understand, the Trieste is not the most ordinary universal landing ship. In terms of size and displacement, it surpasses similar ships of this class. For example, the French Mistral, which Russia didn’t get to Russia, had a full displacement of 21 300 tons. At the same time, despite the possibility of the maximum placement on board (on deck and in hangars) of up to 30 aircraft, while maintaining the possibility of their operation, the ship by the Italian military is positioned primarily as a landing. The new multi-purpose UDC should support the actions of the Italian Navy at crisis points on the planet, as well as provide transportation of weapons, military equipment, technical equipment, personnel and equipment. The ship can be involved in various humanitarian operations, including to provide assistance to the affected population, providing people with drinking water, medical care and electricity.


The longest new ship is 245 meters long, 47 meters wide, with a waterline level of 27,7 meters and a draft draft of 7,2 meters. The total number of crew of the multipurpose UDC is 1064 people, including 460 people of the staff of the crew and aviation groups and 604 paratroopers taken aboard. In the reloading variant, more than 700 paratroopers and evacuated civilians can be placed on board. It should be noted that we are talking about the comfortable placement of troops in cabins, if necessary, the ship will take on board a much larger number of people. On board the warship there is its own hospital with wards designed for 27 beds to accommodate seriously wounded or sick patients. There are operating rooms, radiology rooms, and a dentist's office. At the same time, container modules equipped with everything necessary can be specially installed on board the ship to increase the possibilities for hospitalizing patients.

The peculiarity of UDC is that, in addition to the take-off deck and hangars for aircraft, there is tank hold over 1200 square meters. The ship is able to accept any military equipment, including main battle tanks, weighing up to 60 tons. Also on board the Trieste is a docking chamber measuring 50 by 15 meters. NATO’s standard landing facilities, including 4 LCU-type tank landing boats, or one large air-cushion landing boat, such as the American LCAC, can freely accommodate in the chamber. To work with various cargoes, the ship is equipped with cranes, as well as onboard and stern ramps.

To accommodate the aircraft carrier group on board there is a hangar 109 meters long and 21 meters wide. Inside the hangar there can be no more than 14-15 medium and heavy helicopters, or a mixed group. For example, 6 F-35B fighters and up to 9 AgustaWestland AW101 / NH90 / AgustaWestland AW129 helicopters, or 4 fighter and 10 specified helicopters. At the same time on the flight deck can accommodate up to 18-20 aircraft. And in total, a multi-purpose UDC can take on board (hangar and flight deck) up to 30-32 aircraft with the possibility of their real use, and not transportation from point A to point B. Two cargo elevators 15x15 meters with a maximum carrying capacity of 42 are lifted onto the flight deck tons.


LCU tank landing boat

The heart of the ship is a combined power plant. The designers stopped at a twin-shaft diesel-gas turbine power plant, built according to the CODOG scheme. It includes two powerful MT30 gas turbines manufactured by Rolls-Royce with 48 500 hp each and two MAN 20V32 / 44CR diesel engines developing 15 000 horsepower. each, as well as two electromotors of low speed with a capacity of 5,2 MW. A power plant provides a multi-purpose UDC with a maximum speed of 25 nodes (46 km / h), an economic speed of 16 nodes, small (using electric motors) - 10 nodes. The declared range at a speed of 16 knots is 7000 nautical miles (almost 13 000 km). Autonomy of swimming - 30 days.

The complex of weapons placed on board also looks quite impressive. Unlike many competitors, both UDC and aircraft carriers, who primarily rely on protection from their own air group and security ships, Trieste can stand up for itself on its own. The armament of the ship includes 16 vertical Sylver A50 cells for deploying Aster 15 anti-aircraft guided missiles (short- and medium-range air defense system up to 30 km) or Aster 30 (long-range air defense system up to 120 km), it is also possible to deploy universal SAMM SAMs . The ship’s artillery armament is represented by three OTOBREDA 76 / 76 long-barreled 62-mm universal artillery systems, three Oto Melara 25 / 25 remote-controlled 80 mm artillery mounts with an Oerlikon KBA cannon chambered for 25x138MXXXNUM cartridges mm machine gun installations of the Leonardo company. On board the UDC there are also two Leonardo ODLS-12,7 jamming systems and other electronic warfare systems. A rich set of electronic weapons, presented by modern AFAR radars of X, C and L bands, deserves special mention, there is even the towed Leonardo Black Snake GAS on board, designed for additional anti-submarine protection of the ship.
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                      opus 5 December 2019 00: 28
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                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 5 December 2019 00: 33
                        +10
                        Quote: opus
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                      2. opus
                        opus 5 December 2019 00: 36
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              2. Flooding
                Flooding 5 December 2019 00: 11
                +3
                Quote: opus
                Р'С ‹РџСѓС‚РёРЅСѓ РїРёС € ите РёР» Рё http://kremlin.ru/
                тогдР° С‚РѕС ‡ РЅРѕ СЂРµС € Р ° С ‚РІР ° С € РІРѕРїСЂРѕСЃ

                And Vladimir Vladimirovich, under what nickname in VO, do not tell?
                1. opus
                  opus 5 December 2019 00: 21
                  +2
                  Quote: Flood
                  And Vladimir Vladimirovich, under what nickname in VO, do not tell?

                  Volodin?
                2. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 5 December 2019 00: 36
                  +2
                  Quote: Flood
                  And Vladimir Vladimirovich, under what nickname in VO, do not tell?

                  And you are calling on your cell phone!
    2. Alt-right
      Alt-right 4 December 2019 18: 36
      +7
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      RћRЅ RѕRґRЅRѕRјSѓ RјRЅRμ RЅR ° RїRѕRјRoRЅR RμS °, P ° RЅRіR "RoR№SЃRєRoR№ ° F RІRoR ° RЅRѕSЃRμS † Röhr" Ryo RґRІRμ SЂSѓR ± RєRo SЌS,Rѕ RјRѕRґRЅR ° SЏ S,RμRЅRґRμRЅS † RoSЏ S,R ° RєR ° SЏ SЃRμR№ C ‡ P ° CЃ?

      Two add-ons are a trend! One manages the air group, the second - the ship and everything else.
      1. Corn
        Corn 4 December 2019 18: 54
        0
        One manages the air group, the second - the ship and everything else.
        How to complicate the design and reduce the usable space on the flight deck, isn’t it easier to simply control the ship and the air group on two different decks?
        Of course, I understand that the designers had their own reasons for such a solution, but that's how difficult it is for me to understand them.
        1. Alt-right
          Alt-right 4 December 2019 19: 10
          +3
          Quote: Corn
          One manages the air group, the second - the ship and everything else.
          How to complicate the design and reduce the usable space on the flight deck, isn’t it easier to simply control the ship and the air group on two different decks?
          Of course, I understand that the designers had their own reasons for such a solution, but that's how difficult it is for me to understand them.

          Survival of the add-in as a whole, for example!)
          And where should the bridge as a whole be removed, in the hold !?)
          And with respect to one add-on, one cannot say that a lot of extra space was eaten there. The same dimensions, in fact. The difference is only in the number of these superstructures and their location.
          1. Corn
            Corn 4 December 2019 19: 28
            +3

            Survival of the add-in as a whole, for example!)
            Perhaps, but rather controversial. Significantly complicate the ship and sacrifice operational characteristics for the dubious increase of the safety of the crew ... such a solution.
            And where should the bridge as a whole be removed, in the hold !?)
            What is the problem of placing a bridge on one deck, and above it a control center, as it is on American aircraft carriers?
            a relative superstructure cannot be said to have eaten up a lot of extra space.
            “Relatively” is 2 times more space. IMHO, this is a significant difference.
            1. Alt-right
              Alt-right 4 December 2019 20: 20
              +3
              Quote: Corn
              “Relatively” is 2 times more space. IMHO, this is a significant difference.

              There is ONE volume spaced (one relative to the "classics"), in fact, by TWO!
              And nothing more.
              There is no volume increased, ceteris paribus, 2 times!

              Quote: Corn
              Perhaps, but rather controversial. Significantly complicate the ship and sacrifice operational characteristics for the dubious increase of the safety of the crew ... such a solution.


              Overall survival is improved because in the case of what will burn, for example, half the volume of the superstructure, and not all!
              In addition, they are separated by functionality: This means that no one will have to run "to the neighbors" once again!) laughing
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 5 December 2019 00: 13
                -1
                Quote: Alt-Right
                In addition, they are separated by functionality: This means that no one will have to run "to the neighbors" once again!)

                I think that if we are talking about survival, then the duplication of posts should be posted.
        2. Avior
          Avior 4 December 2019 21: 42
          +7
          Aerodynamics features associated with the superstructure
          One large superstructure creates airflows that interfere with the landing, so the British broke the superstructure into 2 parts
          I suspect Italians for the same reason
          1. opus
            opus 4 December 2019 23: 31
            +3
            Quote: Avior
            Aerodynamics features associated with the superstructure

            aerodynamics have nothing to do with, it’s not known who is worse

            two superstructures, one (bow) for controlling the ship, the other (stern) - for flights
            1. Avior
              Avior 4 December 2019 23: 34
              +3
              I'm not saying that they were going to fly smile
              Just a longer superstructure creates turbulences and turbulences that interfere with flights, and two small separate ones with a gap between them create such problems much less
              1. opus
                opus 4 December 2019 23: 52
                +4
                Quote: Avior
                create such problems much less

                it seems to me they (2е) create more.
                But for aviation, these "swirls" ugh. Won't even notice

                1. Avior
                  Avior 5 December 2019 00: 35
                  -1
                  The British believe that they create
                  1. opus
                    opus 5 December 2019 13: 47
                    +2
                    Quote: Avior
                    The British believe that they create

                    can you read about "create"?
                    Maybe they think it is more convenient to "control" different means of transport, and this increases the survivability of the aircraft carrier as a whole (the shell does not fall twice into one funnel)?
                  2. opus
                    opus 5 December 2019 14: 05
                    +2
                    Quote: Avior
                    The British believe that they create

                    not. found
                    Instead of the traditional single superstructure, the aircraft carrier has two small islands. The front is designed to control the ship, and the aft (FLYCO) - to control the flight.
                    The reason for two islands is, simply put, due to the gas turbine exhausts. The design would have either had two small islands or one large, long island. The two smaller islands were chosen. The location and alignment of the islands are based around the 2.4 meter diameter gas turbine exhausts which were pre-fitted in the island and below in the ship superstructure.

                    The Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carriers are the first carriers to incorporate a twin island design, which separates the running of the ship from the flying operations resulting in greater visibility of operations and increases survivability. There are live communication links between the two islands however to allow them to work together.

                    The advantages of the unique design include the more efficient use of space across the flight deck, hangar and lifts, as well as the reduction in air turbulence over the flight deck. The twin island design also reflects design improvements further below deck, including the decision to separate power generation machinery in order to increase survivability.

                    There are two sets of power propulsion systems (a gas turbine and two diesel engines), located in different areas of the ship separated by watertight doors. This means there are also two exhaust stacks, one forward and one aft, which are masked within the twin islands. Survivability is increased further by the islands being designed with the capability to assume each other's role in an emergency


                    Although it must be admitted that
                    as well as reduced air turbulence above the cockpit.

                    " and " . those. this is not the main
                2. Mityay65
                  Mityay65 5 December 2019 13: 12
                  -1
                  Quote: opus
                  it seems to me they (2е) create more.
                  But for aviation, these "swirls" ugh. Won't even notice

                  Here you are strange.
                  Turbulent flows from the superstructure create problems during landing - a fact known to everyone who designs and operates aircraft carriers. Designers build models, check stray vortices and turbulence in wind tunnels. Calculate the FEM. Doctoral and Ph.D.
                  And you persistently sculpt a hunchback.
                  What would blurt out?
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      2. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 5 December 2019 04: 11
        0
        And in the third compound headquarters!
    3. Freeman
      Freeman 4 December 2019 18: 39
      0
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      RћRЅ RѕRґRЅRѕRјSѓ RјRЅRμ RЅR ° RїRѕRјRoRЅR RμS °, P ° RЅRіR "RoR№SЃRєRoR№ ° F RІRoR ° RЅRѕSЃRμS † Röhr" Ryo RґRІRμ SЂSѓR ± RєRo SЌS,Rѕ RјRѕRґRЅR ° SЏ S,RμRЅRґRμRЅS † RoSЏ S,R ° RєR ° SЏ SЃRμR№ C ‡ P ° CЃ?

      lol "English Scientists". proved -
      The advantage of architecture with two superstructures is to increase the deck area, reducing turbulent air flow, more flexible distribution of space on the lower decks. The location of the flight control services at the rear of the deck is preferable, as it allows more complete control of such critical phases of the flight as the approach and the actual landing.
      / wiki /

      Shl. While this is a "fashionable trend", practice will show if this is so.
      With Zumwalt, in theory, everything was fine too.
    4. PSih2097
      PSih2097 4 December 2019 19: 15
      +1
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      RћRЅ RѕRґRЅRѕRјSѓ RјRЅRμ RЅR ° RїRѕRјRoRЅR RμS °, P ° RЅRіR "RoR№SЃRєRoR№ ° F RІRoR ° RЅRѕSЃRμS † Röhr" Ryo RґRІRμ SЂSѓR ± RєRo SЌS,Rѕ RјRѕRґRЅR ° SЏ S,RμRЅRґRμRЅS † RoSЏ S,R ° RєR ° SЏ SЃRμR№ C ‡ P ° CЃ?

      and between them you can put a firehouse and a stall with "Chianti" and mazzarella, especially since two cabinets are better than one ...
    5. svp67
      svp67 4 December 2019 19: 56
      -1
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      RћRЅ RѕRґRЅRѕRјSѓ RјRЅRμ RЅR ° RїRѕRјRoRЅR RμS °, P ° RЅRіR "RoR№SЃRєRoR№ ° F RІRoR ° RЅRѕSЃRμS † Röhr" Ryo RґRІRμ SЂSѓR ± RєRo SЌS,Rѕ RјRѕRґRЅR ° SЏ S,RμRЅRґRμRЅS † RoSЏ S,R ° RєR ° SЏ SЃRμR№ C ‡ P ° CЃ?

      It seems to have not one, but two "islands" on the deck of the "trend" of the early 21st century, but it's not quite clear why?
    6. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 4 December 2019 20: 39
      +1
      This is now in trend ... Although about a "full-fledged" aircraft carrier - I am tormented by vague doubts. Someone on this site, scolded "Vikramaditya" ("Gorshkov") just a small displacement, which does not allow accommodating a full-fledged air group, but it has a displacement of 12 thousand tons more.
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 5 December 2019 00: 17
        +1
        Quote: TermNachTER
        This is now in trend ... Although about a "full-fledged" aircraft carrier - I am tormented by vague doubts. Someone on this site, scolded "Vikramaditya" ("Gorshkov") just a small displacement, which does not allow accommodating a full-fledged air group, but it has a displacement of 12 thousand tons more.

        The author apparently named the ship a full-fledged aircraft carrier, correlating it with the UDC, the functions of which he fully fulfills.
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 5 December 2019 19: 47
          +2
          Well, so the mattress covers have UDC with a displacement of more than 40 thousand tons. My personal opinion is that the experience of the British in the Falklands showed that small aircraft carriers do not justify the hopes and money invested in them. I'm not talking about Italy - why do they need aircraft carriers? With whom are they going to fight in the vast oceans?
  2. maden.usmanow
    maden.usmanow 4 December 2019 18: 38
    +23
    Italians can, Japanese can, Spaniards, Turks, Koreans too
    And some are still hindered "90-e"
    1. Alt-right
      Alt-right 4 December 2019 18: 44
      -1
      Quote: maden.usmanow
      Italians can, Japanese can, Spaniards, Turks, Koreans too
      And some are still hindered by the "90s"

      There it is not about the 90s, but about one "former president" who always shits on people in ...... good
    2. Avior
      Avior 4 December 2019 21: 43
      +3
      More Australians
      1. psiho117
        psiho117 7 December 2019 01: 43
        0
        Quote: Avior
        More Australians

        Dundee has generally gone crazy lately - his analogue of the NGSW program, his family of armored vehicles ...
        Where is the world heading? Even the indifferent Australian people are actively rearming.
    3. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 4 December 2019 23: 34
      +1
      Quote: maden.usmanow
      Italians can, Japanese can, Spaniards, Turks, Koreans too
      And some are still hindered "90-e"

      It looks like everyone is preparing for the redistribution of territories, a new World War .. The world is going crazy arming itself .. The arms race is spinning .. Only the presence of nuclear weapons keeps the "dogs of war" from the beginning of the destruction of the World!
      1. Mityay65
        Mityay65 5 December 2019 13: 22
        -1
        Quote: 30 vis
        It seems everyone is preparing for the redistribution of territories, a new World War

        The massive construction of such a naval feces as the UDC just shows that they are preparing not for war, but for a disco ... wink
        This is the funniest ship, a holiday home ship. It is good to sail on it from port to port in white uniform under the guidance of a whole headquarters of admirals.
        To demonstrate the culinary fighting qualities and skills of battles at the bar, well, and to please women of the whole world, of course ... wassat
        1. Vladimir1155
          Vladimir1155 8 December 2019 13: 08
          0
          I agree with the feature of its rapid drowning due to the dock chamber
    4. Anton Yu
      Anton Yu 5 December 2019 19: 08
      0
      And some are still prevented from raising Russia from their knees by the Mongol-Tatar yoke.
    5. psiho117
      psiho117 7 December 2019 01: 37
      0
      Quote: maden.usmanow
      Italians can, Japanese can, Spaniards, Turks, Koreans too

      The Italians, Karl! The third aircraft carrier, Carl! Even an escort ...
      I cry ...
  3. Freemason Mason
    Freemason Mason 4 December 2019 18: 45
    +12
    Serious ship. Not Wasp, of course, but just right for Italy. All the advantages of building in cooperation with other countries are obvious: the F-35 was bought from the United States, the engines for the ship - from the British, and so on. As a result - while we are only planning the laying - they have already built, and this despite the fact that Russia needs such ships, and much stronger than Italy ...
    1. Nemchinov Vl
      Nemchinov Vl 5 December 2019 14: 46
      -4
      Quote: Freemason
      As a result - while we are only planning on laying - they have already built, and this despite the fact that Russia needs such ships, and much more than Italy ...
      Well, this ... It seems to me that three 22350 and three BDK, to create a "rustle" in any part of the same Mediterranean basin, are capable of no less, but at a price they will cost 3-4 times less for the Navy. So - "what is the strength of a brother ?!", as it was said in one of the films ?!
  4. maden.usmanow
    maden.usmanow 4 December 2019 19: 00
    +18
    That's interesting, here, recently there was an "expert" article on the destruction of NATO and so on.
    But for some reason, the NATO forces are building their UDC, frigates and destroyers.
    In the 90, and even in the 80, NATO was actively reducing its fleet.
    And now the opposite.
    It would seem a dead alliance. And every year, a dozen ships are added
    1. garri-lin
      garri-lin 5 December 2019 18: 55
      +1
      When you are in a crowd with "bros" you are counting on the crowd and bros. When it becomes clear that they can throw a brush from old accumulators before disassembling and put a gloss on the bootstrapper.
  5. Alex 1970
    Alex 1970 4 December 2019 19: 33
    +4
    It’s interesting, but our UDC will be much more expensive at least with similar characteristics, but I think it will be more likely the other way around, the options are less, the price is more ... angry
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 4 December 2019 22: 47
      0
      Quote: Alexey 1970
      I think it will be more likely the other way around, the possibility is less, the price is more

      Based on what? Can you deduce the correlation? Virginia - 855 Ave. RTO - .. hz against what they have .. and so on .. So and go to the UDC ..
  6. Alien From
    Alien From 4 December 2019 19: 38
    +6
    Ches word, envied pasta ...... (
  7. ares1988
    ares1988 4 December 2019 19: 51
    +9
    During the time spent on the way, the dog managed to grow up. Just a reference example of how to coordinate the construction of an amphibious assault ship + several watchtowers, and in fact build a good AUG. And guilty shrug: itself, they say, it turned out)
  8. Spiridonovich2
    Spiridonovich2 4 December 2019 19: 52
    +6
    All countries can create something new. But we succeeded and overtook the whole world in one, cut budget money and have zero at the exit. However, there is no need to be a pessimist, maybe someday we will even build the Vostochny Cosmodrome.
    1. Nemchinov Vl
      Nemchinov Vl 5 December 2019 14: 50
      +1
      Quote: Spiridonovich2
      But we succeeded and overtook the whole world in one, cut budget money and have zero at the exit.
      Come on ... Everywhere like that. The same "Zumvolt" as an example to help you ... As Woland used to say in "The Master and Margarita" - "people are like people ..." (this applies to any nationality or race, if you like)
    2. Pustogolov
      Pustogolov 18 December 2019 21: 33
      -1
      And what have not yet been built?
  9. Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert 4 December 2019 20: 11
    0
    After World War II, having lost Abyssinia, Tunisia, Libya and Somalia, does Italy really need universal landing ships?
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 4 December 2019 20: 52
      +1
      They lost Ethiopia at the beginning of the 40's.
    2. Nemchinov Vl
      Nemchinov Vl 5 December 2019 14: 52
      0
      Quote: Paul Siebert
      After World War II, having lost Abyssinia, Tunisia, Libya and Somalia, does Italy really need universal landing ships?
      maybe plans to return are ripe ?!
    3. Pustogolov
      Pustogolov 18 December 2019 21: 35
      0
      Everyone needs them, but not everyone has money and technology for this.
  10. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 4 December 2019 20: 15
    +9
    handsome ..
  11. mehan
    mehan 4 December 2019 20: 18
    +2
    Italians well done, of course. Which year I am surprised.
    But it’s interesting - where are they going to land the troops?
    Just not visible, their interest in such actions.
    1. Mityay65
      Mityay65 5 December 2019 13: 53
      +2
      Quote: mehan
      Just not visible, their interest in such actions.

      They have commitments within the framework of NATO to develop the budget.
      Yes, and the Yankees are shouting that de Little Europe is sawing a grandmother, she is becoming dumb by herself. lol
      So you have to find such ways of disbursing funds ... At the same time, load shipyards and order helicopters for this business ...
      And it looks beautiful and impressive, and the ladies are delighted with the crowd of sailors in a beautiful shape.
  12. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 4 December 2019 20: 22
    +4
    Campaign, the Italians washed up not the worst ship!
  13. looker-on
    looker-on 4 December 2019 20: 23
    +4
    Perhaps the most balanced all-in-one ship today. Enviously, to be honest (
    1. Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 8 December 2019 13: 05
      0
      all udk ugly pre-navians intended for American slaves drown from one mine (a specific feature of udk)
  14. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 4 December 2019 20: 32
    +1
    including to assist the affected population, providing people with drinking water, medical care and electricity.
    Well, yes, those who were not bombarded to drink and feed.
  15. rruvim
    rruvim 4 December 2019 20: 40
    +2
    That is why the Italians UDC? I understand everything: immigrants in inflatable boats, the Sicilian mafia, Corsican separs. But the metropolis can cope with this. Why ocean UDC, where are you going to land? Good, only to Ethiopia. What if again under Stalingrad?
    1. Avior
      Avior 4 December 2019 21: 48
      +1
      Firstly, it is a universal ship for all occasions, for example, a rescue operation with military support, anti-submarine search, blockade, landing, and much more
      Secondly, all this is an addition to the American ACG, so as not to distract them to secondary tasks in the event of a major war
      1. rruvim
        rruvim 4 December 2019 21: 58
        0
        Secondly, all this is an addition to the American ACG, so as not to distract them to secondary tasks in the event of a major war

        Willingly I believe. I am looking for the STATE DEPARTMENT under the bed. In general, read the concept of the use and development of the Italian Armed Forces: https://constitutions.ru/?p=17988 As far as I understand, their main task is to protect NATO communications lines, the rest is auxiliary and lyrics, which I agree with you.
        1. Avior
          Avior 4 December 2019 22: 14
          -2
          Curious doc
          Areas of National Interest
          Areas of “national interest” are those geographical areas in which and in relation to which Political authorities can decide to take the initiative, even of a military nature, in order to protect the interests of the state, as well as potentially within the structure of international organizations to which Italy.
          These areas represent a factor that determines the planning of forces and the determination of the structural capabilities of the Armed Forces. They are divided into:
          • Areas of “strategic interest” that currently include national territory and related areas: NATO, the European Union, the Balkans, Eastern Europe, the Caucasus, North Africa and the Horn of Africa, the Near and Middle East and the Persian Gulf. These are areas in which Political authorities are likely to take measures to protect the vital and / or strategic interests of the state (Appendix 1);


          • “other areas”, that is, geographical areas in which Political authorities may decide to intervene according to the situation. Among them, most likely, the intervention will be with a low or medium level of intensity of crisis management operations, or humanitarian assistance on the African continent.
          The “Strategic Concepts” of NATO and the European Union, both characterized by a steady process of expansion with significant implications for the geostrategic assets of the European continent, no longer define boundaries or geographical boundaries for possible interference. This does not mean that NATO and the European Union are ready to intervene in any part of the globe, but the radius of action will be determined by the special strategic situation, assessment and political coordination of the moment, depending on the specific case.

          Here is an explanation of why UDC and the Italian aircraft carrier
          1. rruvim
            rruvim 4 December 2019 22: 49
            +1
            Well, that is, the concept of Mussolini Among them, most likely, the intervention will be with a low or medium level of intensity of crisis management operations, or humanitarian assistance on the African continent. That is, the Italians are worried about the old scabies in North and Southeast Africa, which they "combed" the British and then the French. But not Stalingrad. And "The European Union, the Balkans, Eastern Europe, the Caucasus, North Africa and the Horn of Africa, the Near and Middle East and the Persian Gulf" (North Africa and the Horn of Africa can be removed, since the Italians here showed themselves directly against Gaddafi) only as " security functions ".
            1. Avior
              Avior 4 December 2019 23: 25
              -1
              And you carefully read
              The doctrine provides for deep integration into NATO and active participation in various peacekeeping, rescue operations and a wide area of ​​strategic interests of Italy itself
              And if some kind of cruise ship with Italians capture the pirates, such a fishing vessel with the capabilities for all occasions, that at sea, on the coast, that in sufficient depth on the shore, will come
              1. Mityay65
                Mityay65 5 December 2019 13: 47
                +2
                Quote: Avior
                And if some kind of cruise ship with Italians capture the pirates, such a fishing vessel with the capabilities for all occasions, that at sea, on the coast, that in sufficient depth on the shore, will come

                In other words, listing the so-called. "combat missions", do you confirm that this "battle ferry" is essentially a floating rest home for a crowd of headquarters admirals? laughing
              2. Private-K
                Private-K 5 December 2019 22: 55
                0
                All issues with the pirates were quietly settled not by the military, but by PMCs and proxy gangs.
      2. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 4 December 2019 23: 38
        0
        Quote: Avior
        Firstly, this is a universal ship for all occasions,

        A kind of ship rescue service on the waters .... beaches of sunny Italy ..
    2. psiho117
      psiho117 7 December 2019 01: 47
      0
      Quote: rruvim
      That is why the Italians UDC?

      "emigrants on inflatable boats" - um ... Isn't that why?
      In the bud, so to speak am
  16. Romeo
    Romeo 4 December 2019 23: 11
    0
    What is this ship of Italy for ?! Where will they use it? Is there a colony somewhere?
    1. Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 8 December 2019 13: 01
      0
      will shed Italian blood as American mongrel, by order of the owner
  17. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 5 December 2019 04: 14
    +1
    Something horrible happened, they had to connect "Pininfarin", or Yudashkin! laughing
  18. Adinfka
    Adinfka 5 December 2019 06: 25
    0
    And to be honest - he is beautiful!
  19. tech3030
    tech3030 5 December 2019 11: 09
    +3
    To the big ship - a big torpedo!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 5 December 2019 11: 49
      +1
      This will need at least four torpedoes.
      1. tech3030
        tech3030 5 December 2019 12: 00
        +3
        Big box - four large torpedoes!
        1. Mityay65
          Mityay65 5 December 2019 13: 42
          +5
          Dock ships are just different in that they sink very easily, since they are not equipped with watertight bulkheads, for example, the disaster of the ferry "Estonia" sad
          This is an unrecoverable design feature.
          I bet on one.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 5 December 2019 15: 23
            0
            How old is the ferry to Estonia and how much is this UDC - I’m more than sure that the bulkheads and construction are installed there, as well as the location of the compartments so that flooding by the cascade, if the torpedo hits any part below the waterline, is minimal. The designers of the new ships are not.
            1. garri-lin
              garri-lin 5 December 2019 19: 13
              +1
              It’s very difficult to judge. For such ships, the norm is huge interior rooms for placing equipment. Dividing them into small compartments is expensive and reduces capacity.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 5 December 2019 19: 20
                0
                Such compartments make above the waterline, but not below.
                1. garri-lin
                  garri-lin 5 December 2019 19: 23
                  +1
                  In the event of flooding of several small compartments located below the waterline, the ship will sink on the water. The actual waterline will decrease and, with a high probability, flooding of such large compartments can begin.
                  1. Mityay65
                    Mityay65 5 December 2019 22: 12
                    +2
                    I am sure that there is simply no need to talk about anti-torpedo protection. It is not written directly, they are dark, but the width of the case and the size of the dock speak for this. The Italians have been famous for their constructive torpedo protection since the days of Taranto and the Novorosisk disaster. sad
                    This vessel has a large cargo hold for tanks below the waterline, otherwise the metacentric height will be insufficient. And a big dock for the waterline.
                    If a torpedo hits, a bul-bul will be fast ...
            2. Private-K
              Private-K 5 December 2019 22: 57
              +1
              What sort of bulkheads are in the huge dock?
  20. sleeve
    sleeve 5 December 2019 13: 21
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    Italians are born shipbuilders. rich and long history, beautiful and strong ships.
  21. Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 8 December 2019 12: 59
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    Italians are also sawing budgets
    1. Maks7877
      Maks7877 10 December 2019 11: 19
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      We would have to cut it.