In Syria, they tried to undermine the armored vehicle of the Russian military police

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In northern Syria, an improvised explosive device detonated along the route of patrol armored vehicles of the Russian military police. As a result of the explosion, three Russian servicemen received minor injuries and bruises. It is reported by the Ministry of Defense.

According to a popular report, on December 2, a makeshift explosive device detonated along the route of an armored car of the Russian military police west of the village of Koran (Kobani district, Aleppo province). Military police carried out a reconnaissance of the route of the joint Russian-Turkish patrol. The armored car was damaged, three military police officers - injuries and bruises, there is no threat to life for the injured.



As a result of the explosion, the armored car was damaged. Three Russian servicemen in the armored car received minor injuries and bruises. There is no threat to their lives at this time.

- declared in the Ministry of Defense.

Recall that the Russian military police, together with the Turkish border guards, conduct joint patrols in northern Syria in the places of residence of the Kurds in accordance with the memorandum signed in October by Putin and Erdogan.

Apparently, some Kurdish forces decided to move from stoning patrol cars to more radical methods of fighting patrols, without understanding who owns the military equipment.
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  1. +4
    2 December 2019 16: 22
    Not very happy. (But the military knows what they’re doing.
    1. +4
      2 December 2019 16: 23
      Another provocation of mattresses and their lackeys to discredit the Russian military. The lesson, of course, will be learned from this attack and comprehensive work has been done to prevent this. Well, the perpetrators need to be punished, approximately.
      Thank God that there are no victims.
      1. +50
        2 December 2019 16: 31
        The next time a land mine will be more powerful or ATGM on board. Everything goes to this. And they could just give free rein to the Turks and pro-Turkish formations, even if they want to do something with the Kurds. There is no need to risk the lives of the guys from the military police.
        1. +8
          2 December 2019 16: 44
          After a more powerful mine, the Kurdistan may not become, perhaps we are being pushed to this ...
        2. +5
          2 December 2019 17: 38
          So something is not heard that they undermined the Turks ... negative
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          2. 0
            3 December 2019 17: 15
            Cars attack selectively and they recently talked about this, discussed on the site. Well, of course, our cars ...
        3. +7
          2 December 2019 18: 29
          Or maybe this is the purpose of the action, to give free rein to the Turks and pro-Turkish gangs? As we see fools among the Kurds is not a shortage, but this is a knee generally beyond the reasonable. They are not suicides. I think it's worth taking a closer look at the Turks.
        4. +2
          2 December 2019 18: 47
          And they could just give free rein to the Turks and pro-Turkish formations, even if they want to do something with the Kurds.
          Have Kurds been appointed yet? Is not a fact.
        5. -2
          2 December 2019 21: 35
          And they could just give free rein to the Turks and pro-Turkish groups
          Why should our authorities do this, shouldn't argue with all sorts of "partners", but the military ... are not their children.
        6. 0
          2 December 2019 22: 49
          If for a month we leave the Turks face to face with the Kurds, then the Kurds themselves will crawl on their knees to beg to ride with the Turks and not let them crush the Kurds.
        7. +6
          2 December 2019 23: 03
          And they could just give free rein to the Turks and pro-Turkish formations,

          Turkey claims to be a good half of Syria, the liquidation of Assad, and that the Russians get out of Khmeinim, because for Turkey and NATO it’s a splinter in the pope. And the pro-Turkish formations are nothing but the incomplete detachments of the IG taken under protection.
          Want to give them freedom of action?
          They simply provoke us, trying to prove that we are not negotiators there with a unique chance to speak immediately with everyone, but Assad’s second army.
        8. +1
          4 December 2019 08: 15
          And they could just give free rein to the Turks and pro-Turkish formations, even if they want to do something with the Kurds. There is no need to risk the lives of the guys from the military police.

          You, the modern Bunsham, if only to scatter with kemskavolosti. At one time, they gave the eastern oil-bearing regions of Syria to pro-American mercenaries, now they can’t smoke them from there
      2. LMN
        +11
        2 December 2019 16: 34
        Quote: Spartanez300
        Another provocation of mattresses and their lackeys to discredit the Russian military. The lesson, of course, will be learned from this attack and comprehensive work has been done to prevent this. Well, the perpetrators need to be punished, approximately.
        Thank God that there are no victims.

        And what is the discredit of the Russian military?
        1. +8
          2 December 2019 19: 52
          Maksim hi I see such a picture - a firecracker was laid and the wrong car ran over. If something serious had been laid, there would have been victims. Preliminary reconnaissance. They want to try us "to the teeth".
          1. LMN
            +5
            2 December 2019 20: 54
            Quote: Svarog51
            I see such a picture - a firecracker was laid and the wrong car ran over. If something serious had been laid, there would have been victims. Preliminary reconnaissance. They want to try us "to the teeth".

            Hi! hi
            And why should we try? what The Russian Federation has been in Syria for the fifth year already. There they have already "tried" everything and are well aware (at least the leadership) of how it can end request For them, this is the last thing to oppose to the Russian Federation. Which, in fact, follows from the statements of the Kurdish leadership.
            At least someone could lay this VU. There’s such a mess ... among the same Kurds, there are probably radicals who are not satisfied with the policy of officials from the Kurds. Provocations from the igilas and sympathizers ... s ..
            In any case, I’m sure that no one will take this blast on themselves .. and this is a twitch of fate for a mustache))
          2. +2
            3 December 2019 03: 41
            Quote: Svarog51
            They want to try us "to the teeth".

            hi you still need to help them feel how it is. I remember those "goats" who surrounded Roman Filipov, then Krasnopol flew into the car, after all someone corrected him there. And the tovarischi which the MANPADS were sending generally looked bad, in the back of a car, not photogenic. As my friend explained to me: no one has ever canceled the law of vendetta among specialists, and this is correct. As the great used to say: whoever comes to us with a sword ..., we will bury it there. Modern interpretation.
            1. +2
              3 December 2019 05: 51
              Tramp hi
              whoever comes to us with a sword ... we’ll bury there.

              "How many wolves you feed ... but the bear is still thicker" wink
      3. SSR
        +8
        2 December 2019 16: 47
        Quote: Spartanez300
        Another provocation of mattress covers and their slaves

        Here is your opinion.
        The author of the article "imposes" his vision.
        Apparently, some Kurdish forces have decided

        I impose the opinion that it can be Turkish or the Turks themselves ....
        And that there are at least five options.
        1. +5
          2 December 2019 18: 32
          Could easily be the Turks. Ours openly hinder them from arranging a meat grinder in those parts.
          1. +6
            2 December 2019 19: 58
            I have an objection. But why should the Turks have a war with victims? They also want to live. Politics is politics, and people are people. My opinion is that the curators of the Kurds are testing the soil. I don’t impose on anyone. Decide for yourself.
            1. +2
              2 December 2019 20: 02
              Anything can be. Kurds and Turks also use pins. There are enough players at this "table". So anything is possible.
              1. 0
                3 December 2019 03: 44
                Quote: Captive
                There are enough players at this "table". So anything is possible.

                It’s necessary that it’s enough for everyone Krasnopol, ODAB and further down the list ...
                1. +5
                  3 December 2019 05: 58
                  Tramp, you're right! The difficulty is that it’s near peaceful and has to be used with precision. And so they would be torn down by Tornado or City as the Chinese in Damansky. This is the whole difficulty.
                  1. +1
                    3 December 2019 11: 44
                    Hi hi here you are bloodthirsty
                    Quote: Svarog51
                    they would be demolished by Tornado or City as the Chinese in Daman.

                    The accuracy of any bomb will be enough, it’s better not to skimp on the caliber: you don’t even have to live next to those who attack the legitimate forces. So the children of Israel act: a terrorist — they blow up a house, an apartment — you all knew, don’t whine now, they’re doing the right thing.
                    1. +4
                      4 December 2019 04: 00
                      Well, hello there! belay
                      My words confirmed Yes
                      it’s better not to skimp on the caliber

                      He called me
                      here you are bloodthirsty

                      lol drinks
      4. +1
        3 December 2019 09: 59
        It was necessary to learn a lesson when they started throwing stones and lighters at our place. It was stupidly lucky that without casualties.
    2. +9
      2 December 2019 16: 34
      These are no longer stones ...
      And it scares me that this is only the beginning.
      1. 0
        2 December 2019 16: 42
        Military police conducted route reconnaissance

        mine could lie earlier. little information.
        So it’s not on the route of the convoy that everyone imagined at once - where the armored personnel carrier, Turks, typhoons mixed with tigers travel, air support, Kurds slippers according to the previously developed and investigated minibus.

        This, as I understand it, is a small unit within the VP that prepares routes. God will give the guys good luck.
    3. +1
      2 December 2019 16: 49
      The armored car was damaged, three military police officers - injuries and bruises, there is no threat to life for the injured.

      At the moment, this is the most important thing.
      And the guilty will certainly be sought
      1. +3
        3 December 2019 01: 16
        Quote: Rich
        And the guilty will certainly be sought

        I wonder who will be looking?
    4. -2
      3 December 2019 09: 00
      For faith, the king and the fatherland you can’t do anything.
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  2. -5
    2 December 2019 16: 22
    I accidentally ran into a mine, I doubt that someone there was trying to undermine Russian armor.
    1. +9
      2 December 2019 16: 25
      A mine accidentally disguised on the road? Who dropped it? Earlier, wallets were "accidentally" dropped, now mines, however, the trend.
      1. +4
        2 December 2019 16: 27
        If you do not know, then everything is mined to the positions, including the road.
        And by chance only in Ukraine can be, while not making a map of minefields.
        1. +7
          2 December 2019 16: 32
          The amendment, however, "in Ukraine" - see the dictionary of the Russian language.
          1. +10
            2 December 2019 16: 33
            That at least in \ on the ass, the rearrangement of the terms does not change the place))
    2. 0
      2 December 2019 16: 25
      After the mine, it would hardly have been so "three Russian servicemen received minor injuries and bruises."
      1. +2
        2 December 2019 16: 32
        Taschemta it is written that the mine is homemade. This is not an anti-tank that would tear the Tiger to shreds.
        1. +7
          2 December 2019 20: 02
          Georges hi I made an assumption above. And you are right, if you had laid it on a serious one, only the armor would remain from the Tiger. Learn.
          1. +4
            2 December 2019 20: 11
            Hello Seryog hi

            You're absolutely right. But home-made like a double-edged sword, or nonsense about anything, or tear so that little seems.
            1. +5
              3 December 2019 06: 08
              So I think that the saber exploded. If they wanted to seriously tear something off, they put a couple of howitzer shells nearby. Well, what am I telling you? You know all this better than me. good
              1. +2
                3 December 2019 10: 20
                Even much easier - plastit, although in general everything is correct))
                We would like the Tiger to fly into orbit.
  3. +2
    2 December 2019 16: 26
    As I wrote, yes sit down at the bases and chew popcorn, and let the Turks quench with the Kurds. Nafik build from ourselves peacekeepers as if we as Americans for their Kurdistan.
  4. +3
    2 December 2019 16: 28
    Provocations will continue to continue .. In order to push Russian rivals against the Kurds, to brew new porridge ...
    1. -3
      2 December 2019 16: 44
      Of course, porridge has been cooked for a long time, now any of our steps requires jewelry accuracy !!! Happen what, and ........ zhurnoshlyushki there and SP-2 will drag in ...... the word is not a sparrow today, but a whole ostrich!
  5. 0
    2 December 2019 16: 32
    That savage throw stones, it is written on the technique of MP peacekeeping type.
    1. 0
      2 December 2019 19: 41
      Peacekeeping seems to write un. Mp is a military police, military police.
  6. +3
    2 December 2019 16: 35
    There, besides the Kurds, there are enough "barmaley" people. The "pro-Turkish" people could arrange something.
  7. +4
    2 December 2019 16: 38
    Kurds do not row in vain. As they were thugs, they remained. Armenians in Turkey were slaughtered. In Central Asia, now how many people hang themselves from their presence. The houses are exciting. The mad dog, no matter how smooth it is, will still bite.
  8. +3
    2 December 2019 16: 39
    Kurds know how to blow. If escaped with bruises, then this is a warning. That they themselves would put in armored cars, those who came up with these joint patrols.
  9. +1
    2 December 2019 16: 43
    why in the article repeat the same thing 3 times?
  10. +4
    2 December 2019 16: 47
    In Syria, it is advisable to patrol with more secure equipment.
    1. +6
      2 December 2019 18: 01
      I agree. But again, you can lay down a "half-railway carriage", and then no equipment will save you. It is necessary to decide with the Kurds, there is a provocation, the Turks have been patrolling without us for a week.
      1. -1
        2 December 2019 18: 09
        Hi Stas
        It is ideally possible for the Turks to punish such
        At the moment, the guys are fulfilling the government’s order to be Assad’s representatives on the Syrian territory occupied by the Turks - here the Russian side needs politics and joint patrolling more than Erdogan.
        1. +3
          2 December 2019 18: 18
          In fact, as already written above, there is no certainty that the Kurds carried out the bombing ... It could have been, anyone. In order to provoke. Even the Turks themselves,
          Quote: LiSiCyn
          there is a provocation, the week the Turks patrol without us.
          and they are there with pleasure in genocide.
          Hi Albert. hi
          1. -1
            2 December 2019 18: 23
            Quote: LiSiCyn
            In fact, as already written above, there is no certainty that the Kurds carried out the bombing ... It could have been, anyone. In order to provoke. Even the Turks themselves,
            Quote: LiSiCyn
            there is a provocation, the week the Turks patrol without us.
            and they are there with pleasure in genocide.
            Hi Albert. hi

            The Turks have long wanted to clean up the Syrian Kurds, and they have a long-standing territorial dispute with the SAR. I agree, the Turkish secret services could have arranged the provocation, at least - it’s profitable for them
            1. +1
              3 December 2019 01: 00
              Your comment is not surprising. Mount Agra (Pain) and Ararat cognac are haunted, as if to take revenge on the destroyers of the "great armini" Your hero and enemy of the peoples of the USSR demolished the plaque, must be.
              1. -2
                3 December 2019 01: 05
                I am Jewish. Though Albert))
                We are all quite hypothetically considering it in theory, so don’t take it to heart - it’s all a la la, although Turkey’s joint patrols with the RF Armed Forces really didn’t fall
          2. +2
            2 December 2019 19: 26
            Hello Stas
            And how do you look at the version that the Kurds could have planted for the Turks, because the schedule of who, when patrolling, might not be known to them, and the military police were just unlucky?
            Indeed, the landmine most likely worked when hit, i.e. could not be remotely controlled.
            1. +5
              2 December 2019 19: 31
              Sanya, hi hi
              Yes, I already wrote, and wrote above, there may be 5 options, or maybe more ... Up to the old mine. We drove by, but this time they took a little more to the sidelines and .... Moreover, there is no photo yet, and the nature of the damage is not known.
              1. +3
                2 December 2019 19: 34
                That is yes. So far it’s difficult to judge even a photo.
          3. +2
            2 December 2019 22: 21
            That's for sure. The East is a delicate matter. There you wrap a grebe like a sheep to sneeze. But the main thing is not clear who wraps it
        2. 0
          2 December 2019 22: 01
          Quote: Krasnodar
          At the moment, the guys are fulfilling a government order to be representatives of Assad in the Turkish-occupied Syrian territory

          Quite the contrary. Nobody travels to the territory occupied by the Turks except themselves and the SSA, and the families of the SSA fighters are already populating there.
          They patrol together on the VTS territory. Would leave stones in Turkey !!
  11. 0
    2 December 2019 16: 49
    The expected provocation, from the Kurds they want to make a destabilizing factor from the Albanians in the Balkans (from the history of the Ports, both were punishers of the Turks). The hosts are changing principles remain the same ...
  12. -3
    2 December 2019 16: 51
    Isn't it time to give the command to the Turks "fas".
  13. +3
    2 December 2019 16: 57
    It's time to launch "Foliage" on patrol to avoid our victims.
    1. +4
      2 December 2019 18: 03
      Not sure if "foliage" will help if the signal is over the wires.
      1. +4
        2 December 2019 18: 28
        Will help. She doesn’t have a radio bomb. There, the microwave burns out the element base.
        1. +3
          2 December 2019 19: 19
          I'm not sure that the base of the light bulb with contacts is the elemental base. what
          1. +2
            2 December 2019 20: 52
            Stas, hi Everything is wrong there. A light bulb will not work at 220 - a generator is needed. At 12 stops (automobile) - low-current - it is quite possible to ditch microwave radiation. I do not know the parameters, but it is possible, with the proper power.
            1. +4
              2 December 2019 21: 59
              Sergey, I welcome you hi
              Of course, I'm not a specialist, but I think there is no super "shield". Although you know better ... I'm in electronics, noob. sad
              drinks
              1. +5
                3 December 2019 06: 16
                Stas, I was interested in "Foliage", knowledgeable people said - a very effective machine, but there are still few of them and they go to the Strategic Missile Forces. Although it is not a fact that she is not in Syria. After all, the Uranus complex is being tested there. Surely, some elements of "Foliage" are present on it. We may not know everything at all, that is the business of specialists. Yes drinks
                1. +3
                  3 December 2019 14: 53
                  Quote: Svarog51
                  very efficient machine, but so far they are few and they go to the Strategic Missile Forces

                  More good cars !!!
                  And less bad ...
                  My son is now practicing in the Fire Department (2nd year college), a little shocked by collateral. All equipment (normal) imports and at their own expense. sad
                  Good day, Sergey hi
        2. +1
          2 December 2019 22: 22
          Well, as an option
  14. +2
    2 December 2019 16: 57
    Kurds should be left alone, they want to let their name Assad
    1. +1
      2 December 2019 22: 24
      With all due respect, no way ... Otherwise, such a butchery will begin there, mom do not cry.
  15. +1
    2 December 2019 16: 59
    Quote: taiga2018
    Isn't it time to give the command to the Turks "fas".

    If the VP of the Russian Federation does not separate from the Turks, it makes no sense ... Patrol separately. Or so you will fall between two fighters.
  16. 0
    2 December 2019 17: 07
    Expected.
    The Russian methodology consists in monitoring communications, setting up roadblocks, appointing a detachment (s) for providing traffic, they check the road (s) (with dogs and mine detectors), and, if necessary, set up temporary b / ws. I doubt that this is an acceptable, in this case, option.
  17. +4
    2 December 2019 17: 10
    Allowed to throw stones - flew bottles with AP. They allowed to throw bottles - they began to explode. Next will be ATGM by car. All from impunity. It is necessary to crush hard local elders and leaders to infringe on the Russian contingent.
    1. 0
      2 December 2019 22: 11
      Quote: Dima_Anlim
      Next will be ATGM by car.

      RPG allowed - what will happen? probably a chemical attack. They allowed himataka - ... and that's all, the possibilities and imagination are exhausted. We won!
    2. +2
      2 December 2019 22: 26
      They tried in Afghanistan ... And what happened?
  18. +1
    2 December 2019 17: 14
    It’s a pity for our guys, although they write slight bruises, nothing just goes wrong.
  19. -1
    2 December 2019 17: 17
    Well, here is the next step, which I wrote about a couple of weeks ago.
    1. +7
      2 December 2019 20: 55
      And where does this awareness come from? Analysis of actions or direct supervision?
    2. +2
      2 December 2019 22: 15
      Quote: Zeev Zeev
      Well, here is the next step, which I wrote about a couple of weeks ago.

      Write what will happen in a couple of weeks. And how it all ends. We ask you very much. I have no patience to wait for the denouement.
  20. -3
    2 December 2019 17: 17
    As I wrote, this is a matter of time. It's good that the guys escaped with only bruises.
    But it will be worse. Will ours try to agree? In such a situation, it is diplomacy that will decide more!
    In the power version, we will have to face a guerrilla war, which is very bad! We’ll get stuck, and we will pick out the enemy for a very long time ...
    I hope that we will make the right decision.
  21. +9
    2 December 2019 17: 22
    Erdogan, alas, skillfully framed the Russians with these joint patrols.
    He disclaimed responsibility for the invasion of Syria by "dividing" it with Russia.
    Joint patrols - and joint responsibility.
    Trump was smarter - he immediately led his soldiers out of the narrow "front zone" between two fires.
    1. +2
      2 December 2019 17: 29
      Quote: voyaka uh

      He disclaimed responsibility for the invasion of Syria by "dividing" it with Russia.
      Joint patrols.


      This is how to look, Russia is there legally, but with Turkey, as they say it is not yet evening, everything will be ahead and it will be responsible for itself.
      1. +2
        2 December 2019 17: 34
        Trump and his warriors squeezed off. There is nothing to discuss further.
        1. -1
          3 December 2019 01: 33
          Quote: rocket757
          Trump and his warriors squeezed off. There is nothing to discuss further.

          Trump with his warriors was easier - they did not sign up to fight terrorists, to help protect the territory of another state and its sovereignty. As they peered, they washed off. They just laughed, promised a bunch of firewood and dumped it.
          1. 0
            3 December 2019 07: 47
            Quote: Gritsa
            Trump with his warriors was easier - they are not

            And when was it easy for us?
            Moreover, we are not used to looking for easy ways, especially when you need to achieve a specific result!
            This is not stupidity, this is not "the flexibility of the spine" .... straightened in due time, and now it does not bend and that's it!
    2. -5
      2 December 2019 17: 33
      “Erdogan, alas, skillfully set the Russians up with these joint patrols.
      He disclaimed responsibility for the invasion of Syria by "dividing" it with Russia.
      Joint patrols - and joint responsibility.
      Trump was smarter - he immediately led his soldiers out of the narrow "front zone" between two fires. "
      ----------------------------
      I completely agree with you, it’s time for the Russians to return home and begin to deal with internal problems, things are not a big deal, but the leader will not add a rating, he is frankly weak in the economy and he has a lot of friends, he cannot afford to improve the lives of Russians.
      1. -2
        3 December 2019 07: 51
        Quote: zaches
        I completely agree with you,

        That's why you should not be like HOW WE ... rejoice, it will be easier to live, more whole and satisfying, probably advisers were found ....
    3. -1
      2 December 2019 22: 28
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Erdogan, alas, skillfully framed the Russians with these joint patrols.

      So that was his idea? what And I thought it was an initiative of Russia to slow down the Turks or Assad’s idea. Or maybe this is Trump's idea: how to withdraw troops from Syria? He brought out, but he was again forced to enter.
      Quote: voyaka uh
      He disclaimed responsibility for the invasion of Syria, “sharing” it with Russia. Joint patrols - and joint responsibility.

      And here are patrols for the invasion? Where patrols have no intrusion, where there is an invasion there are no patrols.
    4. +1
      3 December 2019 01: 22
      There is one thing, but that both the Russian Federation (through the retention of Assad) and Turkey (not to give the Kurds north of Syria) are actually fighting for their interests, and there is a serious point in these interests - the border of Syria with Turkey, and not the border of Kurdistan with Turkey For the United States, it doesn’t matter, it’s good to create a "nest" for the Kurds, well, it will not work, it’s also nothing. Because they left, they think differently than TR and RF. And someone is responsible for their invasion of Syria, so that such a moment worries Turks ? Although of all the invaders, only Turkey has 900 km of land border, which must be covered, secured, and none of the invaders sheltered 4 million Syrian refugees, as Turkey did.
      1. 0
        3 December 2019 07: 53
        Quote: Oquzyurd
        There is one thing but that of the Russian Federation

        There is, there is more than one ... "took up the tug, don't say it's not hefty!"
  22. -4
    2 December 2019 17: 27
    and the forum users went to the owl to pull the globe of political consequences ... it’s more interesting how much, what, how they laid and what paint they spoiled, bruising the Men
    1. +1
      2 December 2019 22: 32
      Quote: vanavate
      owl on globe

      Here about the incident. Are you talking about an owl? the globe? Who are you pulling them on? on forum users? negative
      1. 0
        3 December 2019 11: 43
        and where is it about the incident? something, someone, like something, somewhere .. and rushed to shout about the consequences ...
  23. +2
    2 December 2019 17: 27
    [/ quote] Apparently, some Kurdish forces decided to move from throwing stones at patrol cars to more radical methods of fighting patrols, without understanding who owns the military equipment. [quote]

    Rest assured, the Kurds are well informed about the accessory of all armored vehicles. For 40 years they have been fighting in this way with the Turks and even distinguish Turkish armored vehicles by the hum of engines. They just really need kneading and chaos there now. When they started with stone throwing, I was sure that it would come to undermining. Along the way, they will not calm down on this either. Their curators are interested in this.
  24. +5
    2 December 2019 17: 29
    . In Syria, they tried to undermine the armored vehicle of the Russian military police

    This is to be expected!
    Conclusion ... take care of people! Of their own!
  25. +2
    2 December 2019 17: 53
    Tomorrow they will say that three died ... Ministry of Defense, it is ...
  26. +7
    2 December 2019 18: 04
    Read. The news is not joyful.
    I support the opinion of those who propose a tough response. There are Russian servicemen in the car, and it is shameless to make "cannon fodder" out of them even for the sake of big politics. This is a betrayal ... Yes, they are military, they took the oath and pledged:
    ... strictly comply with the requirements of military regulations, orders of commanders and commanders. I swear to fulfill military duty with dignity, courageously defend the freedom, independence and constitutional system of Russia, the people and the Fatherland

    And to be cannon fodder, the object of bullying of any foreign population, they are not allowed by the Constitution of the Russian Federation, where it is written:
    Article 21
    1. The dignity of the individual is protected by the state. Nothing can be the basis for his belittling.
    2. No one should be exposed torture violence, other cruel or degrading treatment or punishment. No one may be subjected to medical, scientific or other experiments without voluntary consent.

    This also applies to military personnel performing their military duty.
    I watched as the guarantor opened the monument behind the armored glass. What was he scared of? He no longer gives birth to children, but the time will come and he will find a replacement. Why so headlessly use the human potential of the country?
    If there is military action, then the use of weapons is legal and reasonable. If patrolling is life-threatening, there are many ways to stop it - let them catch the elders and put them on top of the armor ... Isn't that our method? Let them sit down themselves or put their sons and daughters in prison. They will be expelled from their old bureaucratic posts and into the "Tiger" ...
    Do you see them more important than SP-2 ... It is important for them how they think in Europe ...
    Enough to choose a shame ... Enough to let your feet wipe ... Enough to listen to the curators from across the ocean ... There is no way to make decisions - write reports on your own ...
  27. 0
    2 December 2019 18: 09
    There is nothing better than a total such as:
    injuries and bruises, there is no threat to life for the injured.

    Finally, the guys do not ride on the armor, but are protected from explosion inside the car.
  28. 0
    2 December 2019 18: 20
    What do you want? What would you have Kurds smeared with honey and killed Turks? The patrol is then joint.
  29. 0
    2 December 2019 19: 29
    Quote: soloveyav
    Hello Stas
    And how do you look at the version that the Kurds could have planted for the Turks, because the schedule of who, when patrolling, might not be known to them, and the military police were just unlucky?
    Indeed, the landmine most likely worked when hit, i.e. could not be remotely controlled.

    // because the schedule of who, when patrolling, might not be known to them, but the military police were just out of luck? //
    Or it could have changed. After all, there is still no interaction, as I understand it, so far only the first attempts ..
  30. -1
    2 December 2019 19: 43
    US grandmother pays crap will continue! I'm afraid it's just a sight
  31. +1
    2 December 2019 19: 45
    As required.
    A week ago there was a discussion on all branches.
    And many said that the landmines would be ahead.
    If they did not react to stones and sledgehammers, then incendiary mixtures were used.
    And now explosive devices.
    It's time for the elders to beards and to Damascus. And to sit there.
    You have dispersed.
    1. 0
      3 December 2019 08: 38
      what elders are you talking about? you have some low-key ideas about the world order there.
      1. 0
        3 December 2019 10: 37
        Enlighten.
        I will get to know your point of interest with interest.
        1. +2
          3 December 2019 18: 22
          gray-haired elders remained in fairy tales about 1001 nights. there, the Kurds are decided by the field commanders and the RPK commissars assigned to them, who arrived from the kandil, in their hands and weapons, and money and local people, as it were, that remove all these shares for twitter.
          1. 0
            3 December 2019 19: 01
            So thank you.
  32. Mwg
    +1
    2 December 2019 20: 22
    Yes Yes. This is exactly what I wrote about when there was a publication about the arson of our cars, which can even reach the RPG. It is necessary to react immediately and firmly. At least with a rubber bullet in the body, but it is necessary. And then the eternal rake: the order "do not open fire, do not succumb to provocations."
  33. +2
    2 December 2019 20: 30
    . tried to undermine

    Actually, they didn’t try, but undermined
  34. 0
    2 December 2019 20: 31
    Turkomans worked hard here, but they’ll blame everything on the Kurds. Then there will be landmines and again the Kurds will be to blame ...
  35. +3
    2 December 2019 20: 41
    They didn’t try, but undermined - be able to write headlines. Another thing is, thank God that everyone is alive
    1. +1
      2 December 2019 22: 41
      Quote: Bad
      write headlines

      The headline is just cleverly written so that people don't get very upset. As well as "there is no threat to the lives of the victims." How is there no threat to a soldier in a war? Absurd.
      1. 0
        3 December 2019 12: 30
        So that people do not get very upset, then you do not need to publish material at all. This is not Channel 1, but Military Review, you need to write what really happened
  36. Kaw
    0
    2 December 2019 21: 23
    And how is it that the Kurds planted a mine? Maybe its American special forces installed (for example).
    1. Kaw
      +1
      2 December 2019 21: 23
      I wonder what kind of car was and what got damaged.
  37. -4
    2 December 2019 21: 54
    All Kurdish formations are affiliated with Zapod ... And therefore, the quieter - the less the interest of the employer ...- the less financial flow. The keg with the brew sometimes needs to be shaken, otherwise you will not be able to wait for the brew soon.
  38. +4
    2 December 2019 23: 17
    We need to apply a new patrol tactic:
    - drive off the road;
    - saw people - go around them for a kilometer;
    - start the robot. Let him ride day and night with a flag and watch through cameras.
    - temporarily to patrol in another place: Idlib, Afrin, Turkey, to show that it somehow manages to do without stones, there is civilization.
    - repaint and change cars every day. This will confuse bullies.
    - deliver gingerbread cookies and so on. humanitarian aid. Those who shoot and rush to not give gingerbread.
    - the air-patrol landing operation will definitely take unaware enemies.
    - to drive at night without light. At this time, the "onizhedeti" are asleep, and the rest are entirely unidentified; absent SDF fighters.
    - smear all throwing stones with greengrocers.
    - ride in virtual space, via twitter and other social networks. So the hooligans learn that a patrol drove through their village only in the evening on the network, they will be upset and stop being malicious.

    There are many options. It would be a desire.
  39. -2
    3 December 2019 00: 40
    You just started getting acquainted with the RPK, still ahead. They exist while fighting. In vain yours did not allow to crush them and imposed these stupid patrols. Tomorrow they will shoot with RPGs, and you will all be surprised. Until finally convincing that the Turks are right in relation to them
  40. -1
    3 December 2019 09: 01
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Not very happy. (But the military knows what they’re doing.

    For faith, the king and the fatherland you can’t do anything.
  41. 0
    3 December 2019 17: 27
    Our people can only sympathize, it’s good that they are alive, at least. I wonder what happened to the car after ??? There is a lot on the forum, including myself back in mid-November, after the footage of setting the patrol car on fire with Molotov’s cocktail was posted on the network, it was predicted that they would then be blown up on high-explosive bombs, (it happened! am ) and then they will reach RPGs or ATGMs in the cistern.
    Well, what are we waiting for the military to die? For what?
    PS Just do not need to write that the poor Kurds were framed, they are still nice - they selectively attack only Turkish technology, blah blah blah.
    In fact, they attack one and the other, but ours more often and the damage goes on increasing.
    1. 0
      4 December 2019 01: 43
      I wrote above. Some do not know who they are dealing with. We thought your meeting with saviors will be? First there were stones, then cocktails, now they’re undermining. And the people are guessing maybe the Turks. Especially Jewish comrades. And with the stones was Turkish special forces apparently. It's time to understand who you are dealing with