Ursula von der Layen. For Russia, nowhere worse?

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Last Wednesday, the European Parliament by an overwhelming majority of votes (461 MEP voted “yes”, 157 “against” and 89 people abstained) approved the new composition of the European Commission, chaired by the former Minister of Defense of Germany Ursula von der Leyen. Since December 1 (a month late), the EU government has fully embarked on its duties.

Bureaucratic games around key EU posts


This delay was caused by the fact that earlier (in September) the European Parliament rejected three candidates proposed by von der Leyen for the posts of European Commissioners - Laszlo Trocany (Hungary), Rovan Plamb (Romania) and Silvi Gular (France). At Trochana and Plumb, deputies revealed a conflict of financial interests. Gular was accused of "using her assistant from the European Parliament for political work in her country, as well as her collaboration with an analytical center in the United States."



In the case of Sylvie Goulard, the media wrote that the MPs took revenge on French President Emanuel Macron for his refusal to support the nomination of the European Commission’s head Manfred Weber, the leader of the largest European Parliamentary faction (265 members).

As a result of Macron’s demarche, the leaders of the European Union countries only, on the third attempt, agreed on the candidacy of the Minister of Defense of Germany, Ursula von der Leyen, which they considered a compromise. At the same time, we distributed key EU posts among representatives of its leading states.

The Council of the European Union identified the Frenchwoman Christine Lagarde as the director of the European Central Bank, the Belgian Charles Michel got the post of chairman of the European Council, the Spaniard Josep Borrell - High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy.

Bureaucratic games around the appointment of the head of the European Commission did not pass by the attention of the deputies. They recouped on von der Leyen already at its approval in the European Parliament. The German candidacy then passed, as they say, "on a thin one." 383 of the deputy voted for it, against - 327, 22 - abstained.

The second “act of revenge” was the approval of the European Commission's personal composition and program of action proposed by Ursula von der Leyen. The deputies immediately rejected three candidatures of European Commissioners. So, from November 1 (as stipulated by EU guidelines), the European Commission was not able to start its work. Hungary, Romania and France had to nominate new candidates for the European Commission. And the European Parliament took extra time to agree on the proposed candidates, their detailed study in their committees. Now the process is complete. Ursula von der Leyen, together with a team of European Commissioners approved on Wednesday, began work.

From America with love ...


The person of the new President of the European Commission strained Russian politicians immediately after her nomination by the European Council. After nominating von der Leyen for the EU’s highest position, Deputy Director of the Institute of Europe of the Russian Academy of Sciences Vladislav Belov said in an interview with Kommersant newspaper:
“For Russia, this is one of the worst candidates. This is a tough and, one might even say, pro-American politician. She has never made any attempts to get closer to Russia as a politician. And for sure it will continue to firmly insist on maintaining the sanctions regime. ”


The fact is that Ursula von der Leyen spent the nineties of the last century in the United States, where at that time her husband, cardiologist professor Heiko von der Leyen, taught at Stanford University. Citing this circumstance, the German political scientist Alexander Rar came to the conclusion:
“For Madame von der Leyen, friendship with America, namely transatlantic ties, is above all. She does not know Russia. I think that she will have very difficult relations with the Russian Federation. ”


It should be noted that upon returning from America, von der Leyen dramatically changed her life. The venerable mother of a large family (she has seven children), who worked at the Hannover Medical School, unexpectedly went into politics for many, connecting her subsequent life with the Christian Democratic Union.

This choice was very successful. Angela Merkel, who came to power, took von der Leyen (herself or at someone’s prompt?) From Hanover to the high ministerial post in the German federal government. Since then, she has not left the cabinet, and in 2013, she headed the military department.

At the new post, von der Leyen's pro-American orientation was fully manifested. With her, the Bundeswehr reached the Russian border, placing his units in the Baltic. The German minister supported all American initiatives to strengthen NATO and “contain” Russia.

At the same time, von der Leyen did not deny herself the pleasure of publicly criticizing the Russian authorities and especially President Vladimir Putin for "aggressive foreign policy in Europe." Sometimes her statements came into conflict even with Germany’s foreign policy position.

This was the case, for example, when von der Leyen, without any doubt following the United States, accused Russia of violating the Treaty on intermediate and shorter-range missiles, and then did not rule out a new deployment of American missiles in Europe. Although German Foreign Minister Heiko Mas opposed this scenario.

Other examples may be given. Just recall Ursula von der Leyen’s speech at the Munich Security Conference this February, where she essentially articulated an American view of attitudes toward Russia and European security.

Von der Leyen did all this not only because of her duties in the post. That is her political position. Once again, the experts were convinced of this by listening to the new head of the European Commission during her speech in November at the Konrad Adenauer Foundation in Berlin. In his speech, von der Leyen called on the EU to “build muscle” in security policy and, above all, in relation to Russia.

Anti-Russian Pool


It is noteworthy that von der Leyen picked up the appropriate team. The Italian Federica Mogherini was replaced on the foreign policy field of the European Commission by the former Foreign Minister of Spain, Josep Borrell. He became famous for calling Russia the "old enemy" of the European Union. Borrel did not refuse his words during the hearings when he was approved in the European Parliament.

There he even developed his theory of how to restrain the “old enemy”. “The best way to counter Russian expansionism or, if you wish, the Russian threat is to help Ukraine, increase its resilience and ability to carry out reforms,” Borrel told the deputies. At the same time, he promised "to increase funding for a working group in the EU that is engaged in countering external disinformation, in particular, from the territory of the Russian Federation." And, of course, the new EU Commissioner for Foreign Affairs has advocated maintaining sanctions against Russia.

To match Borrell - Commissioner for Energy, Estonian Kadri Simson. Recently, the Poles and the Baltic states have been somewhat pushed back from the hot topic of Russian gas supplies to Europe. Now their representative has occupied a key position here. Simson already noted in a statement: "It is very important that in the context of gas we take seriously the aspect of solidarity." That is, they fully took into account the position of those who oppose gas pipelines from Russia.

How this will affect the ongoing tripartite negotiations (Russia - Ukraine - EU) on gas transit is not yet clear. At one time, the Deputy Chairman of the European Commission for the Energy Union Marosh Shefchovich closed negotiations with Russia and excluded Miguel Arias Cañete, Energy Commissioner.

Now Shefchovich’s competence has changed. He is now responsible for cross-institutional issues and forecasting. However, the German DW believes that "many tasks in the new European Commission have not yet been distributed, and it is possible that Shefchovich himself wants to complete the negotiations that he has been conducting for a year and a half."

This alignment of forces in the new European Commission has already caused some concern among European politicians. TASS writes that on Friday during a farewell ceremony at the European Commission, journalists asked the retiring ex-EC head Jean-Claude Juncker what he wished for his successor. Junker replied:
“I would ask her to take care of Europe.”


There are many hidden meanings in this wish. We can recall the emerging split in Europe, the deepening migration crisis, the incomplete exit from the European Union of Great Britain, the growing trade conflict with America, etc. Full cooperation with Russia is no less important for the future of Europe.

French President Macron, who is claiming political leadership in Europe, is increasingly leaning toward him. Understanding this, Alexander Rahr believes that in the coming years, Ursula von der Leyen will not become an independent figure, but will absolutely depend on Emmanuel Macron and Angela Merkel.

The forecast of Alexander Rahr suggests a predictable policy of the new European Commission. How much it coincides with real practice, we will see in the near future.
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  1. +6
    2 December 2019 15: 03
    The face of the cold war.
    1. +4
      2 December 2019 15: 23
      Yes, it will not turn out anything new, but for the EU it can turn out to be a big muck laughing
    2. +13
      2 December 2019 15: 34
      Quote: iConst
      The face of the cold war.

      If you mean the face of Frau gynecologist, then it is rather the face of incompetence. It is not for nothing that she earned the title of "Germany's worst minister." Its transfer to the EU was a complex operation to which Italy and the Visegrad countries - Poland, Hungary, Slovakia and the Czech Republic - were connected. It was a rescue operation, and if it did not succeed, then Frau would have to appear in court. Now she is not available, well, at least while she is in this post.
      The chairmanship of the EC became for Ms. Ursula the life buoy she needed. The career of the Minister of Defense of Germany gave a dangerous leak and was about to go down, and at the head of the EC she would be practically untouchable for investigation, and even more so - for prosecution.
      Whatever she undertakes, everything is ashes, so we wish her success in the new field. I wonder how long it will ruin the EU? We make bets. http://www.dsnews.ua/world/prazdnik-nekompetentnosti-dlya-chego-ursule-fon-der-lyayen-17072019220000 https://inosmi.ru/military/20190703/245410475.html
      1. +3
        2 December 2019 16: 04
        Exactly. Ursula is our man! Ruined the Defense Ministry of the Reich, and the European Parliament will collapse. Actually, the EU is already covered! And aristocratic bureaucrats like Ursula speed up the moment when the very bureaucracy of commissars will not be able to react to any changes that are rapidly occurring in the surrounding world. There will be endless meetings, smiles and pats on the shoulder, gender "games" and other liberal perversions, and politics will still be decided between Trump, Xi and Putin in the next 5 years.
      2. 0
        2 December 2019 17: 36
        "I wonder how long it will take it to collapse the EU?"
        It is difficult to name a specific term here. But a start has been made! I think the first results will appear any day.
        1. +1
          3 December 2019 00: 09
          Quote: Sergey39
          "I wonder how long it will take it to collapse the EU?"

          For how the dollar collapses.
    3. +2
      2 December 2019 17: 07
      At the same time, von der Leyen did not deny herself the pleasure of publicly criticizing the Russian authorities and especially the president ...
      -You only need to regularly congratulate her on May 9.
      The fight is for the gas market of Europe - there is money, and East Europe - more
      AND MAIN THING - WITH RESPECT TO VNA - WITH THE EDGE - TO PRESS THEIR MASH STRUCTURE, DO NOT LAUNCH IN THE EAEU, LET GO TO THE GARDEN (WEST)
    4. 0
      3 December 2019 15: 32
      And whoever becomes this person, nothing will change for Russia. This is the alignment of world politics today.
  2. +5
    2 December 2019 15: 06
    To paraphrase the Strugatsky brothers, we don’t need smart people, we need Russophobes ...
  3. +6
    2 December 2019 15: 11
    Ursula von der Layen. For Russia, nowhere worse?

    You might think that there could be better?
  4. +4
    2 December 2019 15: 14
    Russia is completely self-sufficient, Russia has everything.
    And Europe should not create difficulties for Russia, but Russia should make Europe cancer.
    Ursula is not an obstacle to this goal ....
  5. +2
    2 December 2019 15: 19
    Quote: iConst
    The face of the cold war.

    There is no face here, there is ordinary lackey devotion. The HMS lost the interests of the USSR at one time, and the drunk added both Russian capital and sales ... Everywhere you look, a European mug sticks out on any board of directors.
    We bequeathed for a long time:
    Russia has no conscientious partners, and the number of friends is invariable ... Enough to build rainbow bridges, it's time to show your teeth ...
    1. +1
      5 December 2019 21: 06
      See who owns key companies in the field of engineering and transport - all assets abroad. What kind of teeth? This is for TV. The reality is much more interesting.
      1. -2
        6 December 2019 12: 56
        Andrey, you can’t prove anything to some. everything is fine with them, everything is fine.
  6. +1
    2 December 2019 15: 20
    And why am I not surprised ...... ???? Soon mattress ears will stick out of every toilet !! As the bath sheet stuck to the pope, these beasts of shit democracy !!
  7. 0
    2 December 2019 15: 21
    This has never happened, and here again ...
    V. Chernomyrdin was right.
  8. -1
    2 December 2019 15: 33
    Urgent surrender. We are everything.
  9. +1
    2 December 2019 15: 40
    Clowness. No matter how she really broke firewood. It is enough to recall her activities as the Minister of Defense of Germany, only minuses.
  10. +2
    2 December 2019 15: 41
    Angela Merkel, who came to power, took von der Leyen (herself or at someone’s prompt?) From Hanover to the high ministerial post in the German federal government. Since then, she has not left the cabinet, and in 2013 she headed the military department.(C)
    And in what condition did this lady leave the Ministry of Defense? I remember here on "VO" there were repeatedly articles about non-flying planes and helicopters, transsexual colonels of the Bundeswehrrmacht. If these are the results of my work as Minister of Defense, then I am calm for the EU. She does something there too, because if there is no mind, then it will not be.
  11. -1
    2 December 2019 15: 42
    And I think that Ursula is a good chairman of the European Union for Russia. She is still a descendant of Lev Gerasimovich Knop, who did a lot to establish the economy of the Russian Empire in the 19th century. Then she is an ardent Christian conservative. Her idea to block sites with child pornography (in fact, with any pornography) at one time was criticized by various democrats as "too" radical.
    All her words that Russia poses a threat to the European Union, as a rule, are in the general Russophobic "trend" and do not have any specifics under them.
    1. 0
      2 December 2019 15: 43
      And in America she lived only 4 years. And so - continuous Hanover.
      1. +5
        2 December 2019 15: 44
        Compared to our Foreign Minister Lavrov, she has lived much less in America.
    2. -1
      2 December 2019 15: 47
      Yes, she is the most Russophobic in Germany, it is she who leads all this there
      1. +1
        3 December 2019 08: 30
        Quote: crap scratch
        she is the most Russophobic in Germany,

        Not a great specialist in Germany, but as far as I can hear, the Frau Commissioner is something like the German Rogozin, fervent statements and a long list of real failures. So with t.zr. Russia’s news is rather good: these will not be seriously beaten, people are not of the sourdough.
    3. 0
      3 December 2019 14: 57
      She is still a descendant of Lev Gerasimovich Knop

      So what? This in itself is not a virtue. Offspring tends to degenerate over time. To paraphrase the famous phrase: ancestors do not answer for posterity.
    4. 0
      8 December 2019 15: 25
      Quote: rruvim
      And I believe that Ursula is a good EU chairman for Russia.


      As head of the Bundeswehr, she also showed herself very successfully. True, it was at this time that the real level of combat readiness of the Bundeswehr was at the level of the plinth. But she took care of clothes for pregnant women-military personnel. For Germany’s defense, this is more important than the fact that more than 50% of all equipment is not operational and it’s not understood how much time and money it will now need to be fixed.
  12. +1
    2 December 2019 15: 43
    Awesome European choice!
    Where do they get these stubborn women?
    They put them on posts in which they don’t understand a damn thing!
    What did Ursula command in the Bundeswehr?
    Allowed to use makeup and call on the service of transgender people! Besides jokes!
    The combat readiness of the German army fell sharply with it.
    A couple of times Merkel was unable to use the services of "board number 1", which is part of the Luftwaffe - his engines simply did not start!
    In decent countries, they get fired for that. and von der Leyen went on the rise!
    1. +7
      2 December 2019 15: 52
      The combat readiness of the German army fell sharply with it.

      So what are you not happy with? The level of combat readiness of one of the leading NATO countries fell.
      The Order of Lenin must be given to her for this. And you criticize.
      1. +2
        2 December 2019 16: 19
        The fact is that now she commands not the Bundeswehr, but the entire European government, with one gyrus in her head and her stubborn Russophobia, she will do many troubles for Russian-European relations ...
        1. +2
          2 December 2019 16: 40
          What kind of Russian-European relations? At the presidential level: Merkel, Macron, Gentiloni, Kurz and Putin - they are wonderful! At the level of merchants and multinational corporations, it is even better. What can Madame Ursula von der Leyen bring new to this "pastoral"? For a couple of years trying to push any new sanctions through the European Parliament? Even the old ones don't really work. Adopt new Russophobic resolutions? Yes, everything has already been accepted, possible and impossible. There is only one thing left. Actually, Ursula Merkel "pushed through" this, to establish "green" fascism. With taxpayer money, of course. And this is a global project, not just the EU. Its victims are primarily China, Russia, India and other developing countries. But will the aristocrat Ursula cope with this? Anyway second Frans Timmermans became a man in the EU, he was just appointed minister for the "green policy" of the EU, but in real life, he does not understand anything about "grass" (except for use). An ardent Russophobe, a supporter of the US operation in Syria against Assad, one of the organizers of the provocation with the victims of MH17, and ... "human rights activist" of course.
      2. -1
        2 December 2019 18: 16
        Serdyukov was given a similar "Hero" ...
  13. -2
    2 December 2019 15: 46
    a very pro-American politician, I want to note on this, soon such steps Germany will completely fall under them
  14. +4
    2 December 2019 15: 54
    If Russia is self-sufficient and strong, then somehow it should be according to figs what is being done there in the European Union and NATO and in the USA .. But it turns out something like this: the election campaign in the USA, the article there is a candidate for democrats worse than Trump , is Trump better than he is better? Now the article, the Russophobia was elected, it’s bad, but what were the Russophiles elected before ... Name, at least in the last 30 years when relations between the EU were equal with respect for each other? And when did you take into account the opinion of Russia and take into account its interests?
    1. +2
      2 December 2019 16: 13
      Why is she a "Russophobe"? She never said anything concrete about the "sinister Russians", except for the generally accepted cliches: the Russian Federation is a threat, to curb the threat of the Russian Federation, it is necessary to prepare to repel the threat of the Russian Federation, and so on. etc.
      So here, if you include "Tel-Yavivzor", all the presenters, commentators and political analysts are ardent Americanophobes. If you watch our channels, then you will definitely start looking for the State Department under the bed. Why are EU policies better than ours? Only by the fact that our politicians (Americanophobes in words) are happy to fly to the West not only for work, but also on vacation, and the Western ones, so far, are not particularly eager to visit us. Although Trump flew to Moscow, and was especially "not soared" with Russophobia. Until he became a politician.
      1. +2
        2 December 2019 16: 21
        Roman, thanks have added ...
  15. -1
    2 December 2019 15: 59
    It should be noted that upon returning from America, von der Leyen dramatically changed her life. Honorable mother of a large family (she has seven children),
    The children were left to their own devices, and the mother was combing herself, hit politics. All old German traditions are broken. Oh, these suffragists.
  16. Ham
    0
    2 December 2019 16: 02
    German version of the canopy of egg
  17. BAI
    +1
    2 December 2019 16: 47
    But for me - it doesn’t matter who will be in power there. In any case, it will be a Russophobe, or he or she will be forced to pursue an anti-Russian policy. Not only Trump is deprived of independence in this matter. European politicians (if they have any significance) - also
  18. 0
    2 December 2019 16: 48
    Major General Yuri Drozdov, the creator of the VIMPEL group, an intelligence officer with experience in Germany, spoke about German politics, about one of the most interesting pages of "independent" Germany. Eternal memory to him. The experience of such people is now very much needed by Russia. So he mentioned a case in the last century (20th century), the point is that there was a leak of information, it was about that. That as soon as a new chancellor was elected in "independent" Germany, this "independent" chancellor on his "independent" wings of freedom flew to the center of "freedom" of the whole world, to the country of "dreams" - the USA. And there he signed a document - CHANCELLOR-ACT.
    And according to some sources, the Chancellor-ACT yoke is valid until 2099. It turns out that Merkel also signed.
    We are building a NORTH FLOW to Germany. The government is interested in cooperation with Germany.
    This is clear. And the construction of the NORTHERN STREAM could influence the exit of Germany from the clutches of "THE ELECTED DEMOCRATS". If it is true?
    stop
    1. +5
      2 December 2019 17: 06
      Therefore, if the Chancellor ACT is in effect? That there is no need to harbor illusions. And what kind of privatization act did Borya sign with the Yankees, maybe someone knows? And the case with the constitution of the Russian Federation that occurred during the Bohr?
      From information on the Internet that officials do not refute:

      A list of representatives of the Russian so-called “elite” has appeared on the network: members of the government, members of the Federation Council, State Duma deputies with passports of foreign states. There are holders of passports of NATO countries.

      Government:

      Vice Prime Minister Dmitry Kozak holds a Swiss Residence Permit
      Vice Prime Minister Olga Golodets has a residence permit in Italy
      Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov has permanent residence in Spain
      Minister of Labor and Social Protection Maxim Topilin has a residence permit in Bulgaria
      Deputy Minister of Industry and Trade George Kalamanov has a residence permit in the UK
      Deputy Minister of Economic Development Azerbaijani Talibov has a residence permit in France
      Deputy Minister of Finance Alexey Lavrov has permanent residence in Italy
      Murad Kerimov, Deputy Minister of Natural Resources and Ecology, has permanent residence in France and Cyprus residence permit
      Deputy Minister of Culture Nikolay Ovsienko has a residence permit in Bulgaria
      Members of the Federation Council:
      Andrey Turchak has a residence permit in France
      Valery Ponomarev holds British citizenship
      Boris Nevzorov holds the citizenship of Cyprus
      Andrey Klishas has permanent residence in Switzerland
      Arsen Kanokov has a UK residence permit
      Elena Mizulina has a residence permit in Belgium
      Alexander Babakov holds British citizenship
      Suleiman Kerimov has permanent residence in France
      Governor of the Jewish Autonomous Region Alexander Levintal holds Israeli citizenship and Romanian citizenship
      Sergey Lisovsky holds French citizenship

      Deputies of the State Duma:

      State Duma Vice-Speaker Vladimir Zhirinovsky holds Spanish citizenship
      Igor Lebedev (son of Zhirinovsky) has a US green card, Spanish citizenship and permanent residence in Switzerland
      Mikhail Berulava has a residence permit in the Czech Republic
      Irina Rodnina Green card (possibly citizenship) USA
      Denis Kravchenko has a residence permit in Greece
      Alexander Zhukov has a UK residence permit
      Andrey Golushko has a residence permit in France
      Grigory Anikeev holds Spanish citizenship
      Alexander Prokopiev has permanent residence in Cyprus
      Ayrat Khayrullin has permanent residence in Spain
      Leonid Simanovsky holds citizenship of Israel and Cyprus permanent residence
      Rizvan Kurbanov has permanent residence in Turkey
      Mikhail Schapov has a residence permit in Spain
      Alexander Kravets has permanent residence in Montenegro
      Grigory Balykhin has permanent residence in Montenegro
      Elena Bondarenko has a residence permit in Italy
      Vyacheslav Fetisov holds US citizenship
      Vyacheslav Nikonov holds US citizenship
      Nikolai Valuev, deputy of the State Duma, has permanent residence in Spain
      Alexander Remezkov has a US green card
      Nikolai Bortsov has British citizenship

      The government of Moscow:

      Deputy Mayor of Moscow Maxim Liksutov holds citizenship of Estonia and Cyprus, permanent residence of Spain and residence permit of France
      Deputy Mayor of Moscow Vladimir Efimov holds Spanish citizenship
      Deputy Mayor of Moscow Marat Khusnullin holds British citizenship
      The head of the Moscow Construction Department Andrei Bochkarev has a US green card
      The head of the Department of capital repairs of Moscow, Alexey Eliseev, has Spanish citizenship
      Prefect of South-Western Administrative District of Moscow Oleg Volkov has Romanian citizenship
      Prefect of Moscow CJSC Alexey Alexandrov holds Malta citizenship
      Prefect of SEAD Moscow Andrei Tsybin has permanent residence in Bulgaria

      Media, ideologists and propagandists:
      Deputy General Director of Rossiya TV channel Sergey Brilev has UK citizenship
      Konstantin Ernst - Head of Channel One has British citizenship
      TV presenter Ekaterina Andreeva - has Italian citizenship
      TV presenter Vladimir Solovyov has a residence permit in Italy

      Gennady (Gangren) Timchenko has passports of several states at once. ©
      1. +3
        2 December 2019 17: 14
        When, in their opinion, the hour "H" comes for the introduction of a "peacekeeping" contingent into the territory of the Russian Federation to "save the World", in view of the fact that turmoil has begun in Russia and there is a threat to the safety of nuclear facilities located in Russia, at the request of the "democratic liberal-immoral opposition of the Russian Federation "?
        And this is just part of the iceberg. Here are just ("mentally deprived") officials who aggravate the situation inside the Russian Federation, by their actions are laying "carpet paths" for the "NATO peacekeeping contingent."

        And China is near. While "partners".
        1. -2
          2 December 2019 18: 26
          Yes, we will be "zeroed" and without external intrusion. First, they will bring them to absolute poverty, and then they will introduce a law on universal vaccination against some kind of "horse" flu and destroy with one injection. Biological weapons have long ceased to be a subject for science fiction writers. The number of autistic children among children has increased thousands of times compared to the Soviet period! And why would it be?
          1. 0
            2 December 2019 19: 16
            It's early to be sad. People often need to talk about these topics among themselves. There are brave people in the State Duma who talk about the threat of digital slavery. Yes, these are infrequent cases, but we must remember the saying:
            God helps Russia, she could die many times, but she survived, she won!
            After darkness comes dawn!
            1. -3
              2 December 2019 19: 31
              I think this time it will not be God who will help Russia, but the greed and thievery of the bureaucratic bosses. The allocated money will simply drink and will not do anything worthwhile. As was the case with the Mir payment system.
              1. +1
                6 December 2019 12: 16
                Quote: at84432384
                The allocated money will simply drink and will not do anything worthwhile. How was the Mir payment system

                Dear friend, what's wrong with the "Mir system"?

                On the territory of the whole country and abroad, the Mir payment system ensures the smooth operation of Mir cards, which are issued by 160 issuing banks


                Everything seems to be fine with the system, isn't it? And how is everything with you? wink
                1. -1
                  7 December 2019 12: 44
                  This system is tied to Western services, i.e. absolutely transparent for the same CIA, and so, everything is in order with her.
                  1. +3
                    7 December 2019 12: 47
                    Quote: at84432384
                    This system is tied to Western services

                    Can you justify? Be careful - you won't scare me with the word "service" wink

                    Quote: at84432384
                    those. absolutely transparent to the same CIA

                    What is "transparent"? VISA is simply controlled, but what is "transparent"? what

                    Explain be so kind as to Yes
                    1. -1
                      7 December 2019 13: 01
                      Information from VISA is read in real time, and from MIR in about a day. That's all.
                      1. -2
                        7 December 2019 13: 13
                        Quote: at84432384
                        That's all

                        Details, sister, details ... there is no faith in the words, you are not responsible for them request laughing
                      2. -2
                        7 December 2019 13: 27
                        What is "server", "cloud" technology you know?
                      3. -1
                        7 December 2019 13: 31
                        Quote: at84432384
                        What is "server", "cloud" technology you know?

                        This is again a question, pal.

                        I have been in IT since 1988. This is for reference. ERP and not only, development, implementation, maintenance. So again:

                        Quote: at84432384
                        This system is tied to Western services, i.e. absolutely transparent to the same CIA

                        Let me remind you that I am talking about MIR. Justify, finally, your far-reaching argument. Waiting for Yes
                      4. 0
                        7 December 2019 13: 42
                        And I have been since 1981. WORLD information is stored on American and European servers. If you have questions, then Madame Kaspersky has covered them in great detail. If interested, google, find.
                      5. +2
                        7 December 2019 13: 52
                        Quote: at84432384
                        World information is stored on American and European servers

                        This, buddy, is nothing.

                        Quote: at84432384
                        google, find

                        Level is understandable Yes

                        Quote: at84432384
                        Madame Kaspersky

                        Broke, the bucket broke ... but how beautiful it sang request laughing
                      6. 0
                        7 December 2019 14: 01
                        It’s clear what ITshnik you are. The question is no more. It was possible to understand earlier ...
                      7. -2
                        7 December 2019 14: 16
                        Quote: at84432384
                        It is clear what ITshnik you are

                        Not "you" but "you" wink

                        Where to us - we are here so, indulge in plushies:


                        Quote: at84432384
                        Question no more

                        Well, "answer"and before - it was not ... I say the same -

                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Broke, break the bucket ...

                        Pichalka request
      2. -1
        2 December 2019 19: 07
        How representative is this list? A lot of things appear and disappear on the net, but the question is: is this true? Or another fake?
        1. 0
          2 December 2019 19: 28
          Yes, there are a lot of things in the networks. But do these people refute this, or not? And the story with Brilev, where there was a "scandal" in the media.
          1. +1
            2 December 2019 19: 40
            Brilev is not a government official and can have any property in any state without violating the law.
            1. +6
              2 December 2019 21: 57
              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              Brilev is not a government official and can have any property in any state without violating the law.

              Yes, the jester with him, with Brilev and his property. More questions to how he, having the citizenship of England, calmly joined the public councils of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Defense of Russia, in violation of the law and the presidential decree? There are serious special checks.
        2. 0
          2 December 2019 19: 38
          Sergey Brilev is a British citizen. In addition, there is evidence that Irina Brilev’s wife owns an apartment in London. At the same time, the journalist holds the post of deputy director of the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company and has repeatedly held events with the participation of Vladimir Putin, including the Direct Line. In response to the allegations, Brilev said the following: “An employee of the FSUE is not a civil servant. That is, I did not violate any laws. In addition, by the nature of the work, I do not have access to state secrets. ”
          1. -1
            2 December 2019 19: 41
            You yourself answered your comment: Brilev in his own right.
            1. +1
              2 December 2019 20: 21
              Andrey, the question is different if the Western countries put pressure on Russia? Through officials who have children abroad, at home, other property, as well as representatives who work in state-owned media, what do you think? After all, when a coup is made in the country, the institutions of power are seized, and the state media are institutions of power. And officially in the budget of Russia they plan financial support for the state media. Or it turns out that ...
              Berezovsky himself said that the "maydanuts" urgently need to seize the institutions of power (about all kinds of revolutions in Ukraine). And when Berezovsky began to appear in the media, including did he not make friends with the "journalist intelligentsia" from state channels? Maybe not with Mr. Brilev, I have no right to assert about it, but by the way I also lived in London.
              As there Leps: "I'll go to live in London!"
              The topic is that NATO is nearby. If so, then the case itself ordered ...
              And the rest of the "digital world" that poses a threat to national security.
              And in theory, journalists on state channels should ...
              And in London, many are poisoned - a threat from Russia?
              And if the journalists working in the state-owned media in Russia, and they mean they pose a geopolitical threat to Britain and its crown?
              After all, Westerners are screaming in full that there is no democracy in our country.
              So these journalists should be a threat to Western values? According to the west. And these people live in the West without oppression, work on television hostile to the West.
              This is purely my opinion. After all, we have democracy?
              Like there in John of Kronstadt: "Democracy is in hell, and in heaven there is the Kingdom!"
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            4. +1
              2 December 2019 20: 56
              Andrey, the question is different if the Western countries put pressure on Russia? Through officials who have children abroad, at home, other property, as well as representatives who work in state-owned media, what do you think? After all, when a coup is made in the country, the institutions of power are seized, and the state media are institutions of power. And officially in the budget of Russia they plan financial support for the state media. Or it turns out that ...
              Berezovsky himself said that the "maydanuts" urgently need to seize the institutions of power (about all kinds of revolutions in Ukraine). And when Berezovsky began to appear in the media, including did he not make friends with the "journalist intelligentsia" from state channels? Maybe not with Mr. Brilev, I have no right to assert about it, but by the way I also lived in London.
              As there Leps: "I'll go to live in London!"
              The topic is that NATO is nearby. If so, then the case itself ordered ...
              And the rest of the "digital world" that poses a threat to national security.
              And in theory, journalists on state channels should ...
              And in London, many are poisoned - a threat from Russia?
              But what if the journalists working in the state-owned media in Russia, and they carry a geopolitical threat to Britain and its crown?
              After all, Westerners are screaming in full that there is no democracy in our country.
              Does this mean that such journalists should threaten Western values? According to the west. And these people live in the West without oppression, work on television hostile to the West.
              This is purely my opinion. After all, we have democracy?
              Like there in John of Kronstadt: "Democracy is in hell, and in heaven there is the Kingdom!"
      3. 0
        3 December 2019 00: 18
        Here is a list (not complete) that will sell everything. And you are NATO ... the USA ... History does not teach anything, the bureaucrats will surrender their own partyocrats.
  19. 0
    2 December 2019 17: 00
    In general, if you are afraid: behave in a Europhobic way, then beware of this frame:

    Not only is he a high-ranking freemason and Ursula's "right" (imposed) hand in the European government (the most important "green" line), but also the frame that sunk the Cochet Labor Party (Netherlands) in 2017 by accident ( his words) by publishing his correspondence with the party leadership. Then, after these revelations, they lost 27 seats in the Dutch parliament. In general, a traitor and a crook. And even when it became known that he was an employee of the Dutch and British intelligence services in one bottle, the curators "shoved" him into the EU government in the most important ministerial position. Knows Russian perfectly.
    1. +1
      2 December 2019 17: 36
      There is no need to be afraid, it is necessary to return the ideology and amendments to the constitution.
      And who will do this, wait and see, if many have time to do it:

      Example: In Tomsk, Professor Konstantin Olegovich Belyakov decided to take part in the experiment and to implant an electronic chip under the skin. It performs the functions of a bank card, an electronic key for access to the TSU buildings and the Troika transport card, which is used in Moscow, TASS reports with reference to the press service.



      It will be too late for many to "drink Borjomi"

      At the beginning of this year, the Ministry of Agriculture proposed to label pets in different ways: tattoo, tag, chip. Marking is the fixing or introduction into the body of an animal of visual means of identification. There is also a mixed type of recognition, which is a combination of visual and electronic means. So, for example, the process of chipping is the most expensive of the above.

      negative
      1. 0
        2 December 2019 17: 46
        A chipped Russian soldier is a slave; he will not fight for his homeland.
        Here, NATO is not needed.
        And these comrades with passports from NATO countries do not resist such projects, or maybe they already have a chip (in the queue)? And there is their consent so as not to lose the passports of the countries where the "partners" live?
        1. 0
          2 December 2019 17: 57
          And then a double-edged sword. On the one hand, chips and other madness, and on the other hand, NATO, for them the trouble is a gift.
          Probably Seraphim of Sarov said correctly: "Save yourself, and thousands will be saved around you."
          1. +1
            2 December 2019 18: 55
            Chip is not insane, this is a digital concentration camp. You only have an identification code instead of a name, which is constantly read by sensors - at the entrance, at work, in transport, in a store, a clinic, at the entrance to the Internet, when crossing the road ... Inadvertently spoke out against the authorities in some social network and "digital intelligence" turned you off. From everything. From a bank account, from ownership of an apartment, from work, and from everything. This is the essence of the "digitalization" which the authorities rushed to implement at a gallop. People in Russia are not yet accustomed to the meanness and venality of the current government, they still trust it as it was in the USSR, they believe that it is "for the people", therefore they see only the advantages of scientific and technological revolution and stubbornly do not want to see the disadvantages. But the cons are just monstrous! Well, after the "pension reform" it's time to see clearly, it's time to start defending your rights!
      2. 0
        2 December 2019 17: 57
        Well, actually, the pro-green government in the EU is achieving this (to chip everything).
  20. 0
    2 December 2019 17: 46
    Well, that may depend on the gynecologist, well, you yourself perfectly understand everything.
    1. +1
      2 December 2019 17: 59
      And so it’s clear what will happen:
      “The queen gave birth to the night
      Not a son, not a daughter;
      Not a mouse, not a frog,
      And to the unknown animal. ”

      A.S. Pushkin
  21. +1
    2 December 2019 18: 51
    This, of course, is not Gorbachev's leverage over the Union, but he can make a laugh. Good luck, Ursula, in furthering the EU to a place you know.
  22. 0
    2 December 2019 19: 45
    Her physics is unpleasant
    1. +1
      2 December 2019 22: 02
      See a nice German: know - this is ours wink
  23. +2
    2 December 2019 19: 55
    Ursula von der Layen. Worse nowhere for Russia? ........... chuckled, the Deutschland was ruined, now it’s the EU’s turn, and it needs to be given the Order of Friendship of Peoples for subversive activities in the womb of the gerops, Ursula von der Layen. Nowhere is better for Russia
  24. 0
    2 December 2019 20: 36
    Major General Yuri Drozdov, the creator of the VIMPEL group, an intelligence officer with experience in Germany, spoke about German politics, about one of the most interesting pages of "independent" Germany. Eternal memory to him. The experience of such people is now very much needed by Russia. So he mentioned a case in the last century (20th century), the point is that there was a leak of information, it was about that. That as soon as a new chancellor was elected in "independent" Germany, this "independent" chancellor on his "independent" wings of freedom flew to the center of "freedom" of the whole world, to the country of "dreams" - the USA. And there he signed a document - CHANCELLOR-ACT.
    And according to some sources, the Chancellor-ACT yoke is valid until 2099. It turns out that Merkel also signed.
    Who is the minister there? Who is there in the EU? Will the essence of things change from this?
    1. 0
      2 December 2019 22: 08
      What is so strange here. Winning countries: USA, UK and USSR divided the 3rd Reich into three occupied regions, then into states. Each elected president or secretary flew to his curators. Chancellor of Germany to America, Secretary of the SED in the USSR. And leave the Chancellor-Act to conspiracy theorists. They love it, like me. Only such documents are not signed with a pen, but only BLOOD !!! drinks
  25. 0
    2 December 2019 22: 00
    This young lady managed at some NATO summit in Germany to paint the symbol of this office in LGBT colors. Bulgarians, Poles and Hungarians were then in shock. Now I find out that she has seven children ... poor children.
    1. 0
      2 December 2019 22: 13
      I do not believe that she, like Merkel in her youth, walked naked with a hippie on the beach, and even more so as an adult, Fraulein painted somewhere a four-tooth NATO gear in LGBT colors. Still, "background". Give proof?
  26. 0
    2 December 2019 22: 00
    Against the background of the "come in large numbers" of Arabs, the European Union is increasingly sliding towards fascism, they cannot openly admit it, so they came up with a fake about the threat from Russia. In general, this is not so bad - a clear enemy is always better than a hidden one!
    1. 0
      2 December 2019 22: 19
      Don't touch the gentle idea of ​​"fascism". Even Duce could not clearly substantiate it, although he tried through Roman law. Another version of the idea of ​​Fascism is the unity of everyone and everything in front of a global threat. There is a threat, it is emissions and global warming. The threat is naturally in the heads of the new elite. For this, a new united "green" party is needed, which will deal with all sorts of marginal people, at the same time destroying any production in the uncontrolled "golden billion" space.
  27. +2
    2 December 2019 22: 06
    Junker replied:
    “I would ask her (Ursula) to take care of Europe.”

    I, "trudge" from European emancipation and equality, what at the woman
    Honorable mother of a large family (she has seven children)
    she doesn’t have enough time to take care of them, and she was stuck all over Europe crying

    1. -1
      2 December 2019 22: 18
      Quote: Terenin
      she doesn’t have enough time to take care of them, and she was stuck all over Europe

      She is already over 60, already taken care of. As they say, called herself a cargo / politician /, climb into the boxes.
      1. +4
        2 December 2019 22: 23
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        She is already over 60


        Yes you sho ??? belay

  28. 0
    2 December 2019 22: 29
    It should be noted that upon returning from America, von der Leyen dramatically changed her life. The venerable mother of a large family (she has seven children), who worked at the Hannover Medical School, unexpectedly went into politics for many, connecting her subsequent life with the Christian Democratic Union.

    Gynecology changed to proctology. She brought the Bundeswehr in one place, now the EU is waiting for it. wassat
  29. 0
    3 December 2019 02: 15
    When Donald Tusk was elected the same thing was said.
    Although women are unpredictable. Moreover, politics
  30. 0
    3 December 2019 17: 10
    Hitler survived. But this aunt is still a mother, raised seven children, and she looks positive, albeit German.
    1. -1
      5 December 2019 16: 03
      Quote: 1536
      Hitler survived.

      How old are you?
      1. 0
        5 December 2019 19: 59
        All mine. Are you not German for an hour?
  31. 0
    5 December 2019 13: 15
    The main problem is not some Leyen. The main problem is worms.
  32. 0
    7 December 2019 09: 13
    EU bureaucracy created to serve US interests. A random person cannot get there. It’s ridiculous to say that one of the European officials would have a positive attitude towards Russia. These are screened out right away

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"