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Kravchuk gave advice to Zelensky before negotiations with Putin in Paris

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Kravchuk gave advice to Zelensky before negotiations with Putin in Paris

The first Ukrainian president, Leonid Kravchuk, “instructed” the incumbent head of state, Vladimir Zelensky, about his conduct in the upcoming talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Kravchuk told about this on the air of the 112 television channel.


According to Kravchuk, he advised Zelensky, in a conversation with Putin, "to defend Ukraine", to declare that Ukrainians are a "great people" and to demonstrate their will and courage, "defending the country's national interests."

I would advise this: defend Ukraine. These are not just words. For example, it is necessary to tell the truth frankly and sincerely - we were deceived with the Budapest memorandum. They deceive us and pretend that they help, when they help only in words. They play with us like a cat with a mouse

- he said.

At the same time, Kravchuk emphasized that at the summit all participants should say that "meets the interests of the Ukrainian people."

On the eve of the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Aleksey Danilov said that at the summit in Paris, Ukrainian President Zelensky "will not make any concessions to Putin."

I am sure that from President Zelensky not a single step towards any concessions that will not benefit our state, we will not see there

- he said.

Recall that the meeting of the "Norman Four" will be held in Paris on December 9 2019 of the year. It will be attended by Russian President Vladimir Putin, French President Emmanuel Macron, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky. The main topic of the meeting is the Minsk agreements.
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  1. Starper-xnumx
    Starper-xnumx 1 December 2019 07: 14
    +14
    Without representatives of Donbass, this will all be empty talk ..
    1. Rostovchanin
      Rostovchanin 1 December 2019 07: 21
      +30
      They were deceived by ... poor fellows, but they did not deceive us when they promised NATO not to expand east? He gives the punishments ... the punisher ...
      1. Starper-xnumx
        Starper-xnumx 1 December 2019 07: 37
        +17
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        They were deceived by ... poor fellows, but they did not deceive us when they promised NATO not to expand east?

        This first Kravchuk needs to be hung on a Khreshchatyk, when we judge this junta
        1. WILL
          WILL 1 December 2019 07: 54
          +30
          Even looking disgusted at this shifter ... young Bandera, Communist, Traitor of the Motherland ... one of the culprits of the collapse of the USSR.
          In HELL, the BATTER and the SCAL, they already put passes ... am
          He gave advice ... how to change shoes in a jump, clever - not able to advise! am
          1. cost
            cost 1 December 2019 08: 41
            +3
            Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov said: I’m sure that we will not see a single step from President Zelensky on any concessions that will not benefit our state

            Wait and see No.
            Although I completely agree with Meehan
            Without representatives of Donbass, this will all be empty talk ..
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 1 December 2019 09: 29
              +2
              Quote: Starper-777
              Without representatives of Donbass, this will all be empty talk ..

              And besides, at the Paris talks will be again among four participating countries three against one! Those. Ukraine, Germany and France against one Russia!

              Something at the same time I have little faith in the fact that the same "cunning" Merkel disobeys the same Washington, although Ukraine is already annoying in some way almost all of Europe and Brussels!
              1. Starper-xnumx
                Starper-xnumx 1 December 2019 10: 05
                -1
                Quote: Tatiana
                And besides, at the Paris talks there will again be among the four participating countries three against one! Those. Ukraine, Germany and France against one Russia!

                Everything will be as usual Tatyana or even worse .. But Putin is sharp on the tongue and something to these gentlemen will remind who they are and with whom he wants to talk seriously already on the topic ..
                Here is a photo that says a lot, but with Zelensky it will be even funnier sure .. (alas, they don’t miss, but oh well)))
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 1 December 2019 10: 24
                  +1
                  Quote: Starper-777
                  Everything will be as usual Tatyana or even worse.

                  Well, with such Ukrainian chauvinists and singers in favor of creating and preserving Bandera Ukraine, like Kravchuk and Kuchma, there will definitely not be anything good at the Paris talks on DLNR!

                  Quote: Starper-777
                  Here is a photo that says a lot, but with Zelensky it will be even funnier sure .. (alas, they don’t miss, but oh well)))

                  To pass a picture from the computer, you need to activate it on "VO" in the "picture" field. Namely
                  There is an empty box under the picture itself. Click on it to make a "birdie" appear - it will pass. And how to immediately transfer a picture from the Internet, I also do not know.
                2. Scoun
                  Scoun 1 December 2019 10: 53
                  +1
                  Quote: Starper-777
                  Zelensky will be even funnier sure .. (alas, they don’t miss, but oh well)))

                  + Kravchuk rat is experienced and drives to the public.
                  At the same time, Kravchuk emphasized that at the summit all participants should talk about what "meets the interests of the Ukrainian people."

                  It’s only going to talk about oneself about one’s beloved, but that there are still interests and opinions of others, it somehow pushes.
                  These rogules have already gotten everyone, Macron and Merkel of course will "call" Russia to dialogue, but for some reason Zelensky will turn green from their "call".
                  Imha. Against the background of strained relations with the United States, the Europeans need a "straw" in the form of relations with Russia and China.
                  1. Starper-xnumx
                    Starper-xnumx 1 December 2019 11: 13
                    -3
                    Quote: Scoun
                    Imha. Against the background of strained relations with the United States, the Europeans need a "straw" in the form of relations with Russia and China.

                    Well, we throw them "straws" all the time, but they want a raft to be created for them .. Well, no "gentlemen, you are our tolerasty"
                    Understand what you have done in the Middle East and Libya yourself.
              2. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 1 December 2019 11: 16
                +1
                Quote: Tatiana
                Something at the same time I have little faith in the fact that the same "cunning" Merkel disobeys the same Washington, although Ukraine is already annoying in some way almost all of Europe and Brussels!

                How to know, how to know Tatyana hi Angela's grandmother shows sufficient obstinacy in some issues with Washington, even if only for the construction of the same SP-2. She understands that this is her last term as Chancellor of Germany, and therefore she is no longer very afraid during her political career. In addition, he and Macron harbored a grudge against Zelensky, who, in a conversation with Trump, reproached them with greed and insufficient aid (and it amounted to more than 10 billion euros) against the background of the fact that Europe suffers direct losses due to the sanctions policy related to Ukraine , and the light at the end of the tunnel is still not visible. Only losses! So you are right that Europe is already tired of this "client" (ukraine) and most likely it will be put "in place" through the presentation of specific requirements that cannot be interpreted in two ways, failure to fulfill which will lead to a cut in all aid and contacts.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 1 December 2019 11: 53
                  0
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  Grandma Angela in some matters with Washington shows sufficient obstinacy, even if only for the construction of the same SP-2.

                  Merkel has a DOUBLE and DUALISTIC policy regarding Ukraine and Russia.

                  On the one hand, Merkel is defending the construction of the SP-2.
                  On the other hand, the "hydration revolution" on the Maidan is not only an American project, but a project with the active participation of Germany itself under Chancellor Merkel! A project that Merkel has never abandoned and is unable to abandon.
                  At the same time, the financial and material content of the Ukrainian-Bandera regime in Kiev through the continuation of the Ukrainian gas transportation system, Germany, together with Brussels, not only welcomes, but also strives to shift the financial burdens onto the shoulders of the Russian Federation.
                  In addition, Merkel is not accustomed by the same Kohl to keep eggs in one basket.

                  Therefore, Merkel cannot be trusted, even without taking into account the last term of her stay in a high post in Germany. If anything, then she will find an honorable place in Brussels.

                  REFERENCE
                  DUALISM. (new Lat. dualismus, from Lat. duo - two). Any philosophical (worldview) system that pragmatically manipulatively takes two principles at once, for example: not only idea and matter, but also good and evil.
                  1. Alien From
                    Alien From 2 December 2019 03: 58
                    +1
                    Dualism in our opinion, it’s a climb on the tree and don’t rip off the ass! Briefly and clearly! The German diva has already passed the option! The non-brothers have only one way ---- into non-existence! It is a pity they chose their own path.
              3. iConst
                iConst 1 December 2019 11: 19
                0
                Quote: Tatiana
                Those. Ukraine, Germany and France against one Russia!

                Correction: Kuyev is not a subject here. The three will decide.
                Strong players in modern politics do not have permanent pro or con. Politics is a complex mosaic of assaults and concessions in many areas and regions. The exception is small mongrels (we all know them). But these are not subjects (so they rage).
                And in Paris it will be exactly the same - somewhere in Paris and Berlin they will put pressure on Moscow on the outskirts of the issue, somewhere they will set the brains of the x ... renovy player on the piano.

                After all, the answer from Moscow for inadequacy can fly in a completely different place.

                And do not forget about the growing disagreements in the Gayrosoyuz. France and other Euro-moons look with envy at Germany, which is quite successfully circumventing sanctions.
          2. GRF
            GRF 1 December 2019 09: 51
            0
            Quote: ANIMAL
            Even looking disgusted at this shifter ... young Bandera, Communist, Traitor of the Motherland ... one of the culprits of the collapse of the USSR.
            In HELL, the BATTER and the SCAL, they already put passes ... am
            He gave advice ... how to change shoes in a jump, clever - not able to advise! am

            they all mixed in a bunch, but the main thing is that the Traitor, respectfully, wrote with a capital letter ...
            and if there is no hell? like this, if not? Well, then it will be necessary to move ourselves to punish, condemn, cross out the traitor from earthly life, it would be better to believe about the grave existence someday later, prepared for him by Someone because of us. we believe so powerfully! but even more and more traitors, and yes, it’s not the time yet, although as you write, it’s high time ...
            if a traitor betrayed those, others, third, then how can he be considered both ours and yours? at least he is not the one whom he betrayed the last, so why list all the "merits", because by doing so you denigrate the really deserved, al is it on purpose?
            change shoes in a jump - this is the logical advice of a traitor, clever besides, since he is still alive and free ...
            what so revolts you?
            believe me, if you dig deeper, then the reason will not be at all in Kravchuk ...

            Do not be angry with others and you yourself are not angry,
            We are guests in this mortal world.
            And if something goes wrong - humble yourself!
            Be smarter and smile.
            Think cold with your head.
            After all, everything in the world is logical:
            The evil radiated by you
            To you will return by all means.
            (c) Omar Khayyam
            1. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 1 December 2019 10: 39
              0
              Quote: GRF
              but the main thing is that the Traitor respectfully wrote with a capital letter ...

              Judas is also capitalized ... This is not a manifestation of respect, admiration for the Traitor Kravchuk .. But the selection from among the many small traitors-jackals. Here is a traitor with a capital letter, standing out from the somn of small ghouls .. So to say VIY among the ghouls! JUDAH for our people!
              1. GRF
                GRF 1 December 2019 18: 35
                0
                Quote: 30 vis
                Quote: GRF
                but the main thing is that the Traitor respectfully wrote with a capital letter ...

                Judas is also capitalized ... This is not a manifestation of respect, admiration for the Traitor Kravchuk .. But the selection from among the many small traitors-jackals. Here is a traitor with a capital letter, standing out from the somn of small ghouls .. So to say VIY among the ghouls! JUDAH for our people!

                the best reward for a traitor is condemnation, boycott, oblivion ...
                and not their ranking, this one is so-so, but this nicho (and it is generally not clear why it is so), and that one is so cool ...
                mention the devil in the sou and he will be right there ...
                1. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 1 December 2019 21: 51
                  0
                  Quote: GRF
                  mention the devil in the sou and he will be right there ...

                  It’s a pity that it doesn’t work out with God. Yes, He is against it ...
          3. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 1 December 2019 10: 45
            +1
            Quote: ANIMAL
            He gave advice ... how to change shoes in a jump, clever - not able to advise!
            At the same time, Kravchuk stressed that at the summit, all participants should speak about what "meets the interests of the Ukrainian people." Donetsk residents are no longer Ukrainians, but Galicians are Ukrainians. So he himself is a Galician (a brave lad).
            1. orionvitt
              orionvitt 1 December 2019 12: 53
              -1
              Quote: tihonmarine
              but the Galicians are Ukrainians

              So yes, it is real Ukrainians, which they themselves claim. But the fact is that in Ukraine schizophrenia has long flourished, that is, a split brain. In Kiev, Ukrainians are considered to be everyone who is a citizen of Ukraine, who was born on the territory of Ukraine, has a Ukrainian surname .. This is the same as saying that all Russians are Russians. And in general, being a Ukrainian, just like a Russian, in our time, is not so much a nationality as a political choice. For example, to tell the same Armen Gasparyan that he is not Russian, you will learn a lot about yourself.
          4. private person
            private person 1 December 2019 17: 31
            +2
            Yeltsin was waiting for him, hell will be shared.
          5. Alien From
            Alien From 2 December 2019 03: 24
            0
            And this dog, and tagged, are worthy of the lynching court!
        2. Gromozeka
          Gromozeka 1 December 2019 09: 06
          +5
          Quote: Starper-777
          This first Kravchuk needs to be hung on a Khreshchatyk, when we judge this junta

          Then it was necessary to hang Kravchuk for a long time together with Yeltsin and Shushkevich for the destruction of the USSR in the Belovezhskaya Pushcha ...
          1. Starper-xnumx
            Starper-xnumx 1 December 2019 09: 22
            0
            Quote: Thunderclock
            Then it was necessary to hang Kravchuk for a long time together with Yeltsin and Shushkevich for the destruction of the USSR in the Belovezhskaya Pushcha ...

            It was necessary, but Putin made a promise to the Russian officer not to touch the family ..
            But Gorbach Judah is still alive and even blathers something .. hi
        3. orionvitt
          orionvitt 1 December 2019 12: 45
          -1
          Well, Kravchuk, as always, ran between the trickles of rain. He explained that the water is wet and the oil is oily. And the fact that someone is deceiving Ukraine is not true. For almost 30 years, they have been deceiving themselves, and are very happy with it. And things need to be called by their proper names, Ukraine in Paris will not protect its own interests, but as it should, the interests of the United States.
        4. major147
          major147 1 December 2019 13: 20
          0
          Kravchuk advised Zelensky before the talks

          Yes, he already fell into insanity. He knows that Russia is led by Putin, not Yeltsin, and he won’t be able to drink him like Yeltsin?
      2. knn54
        knn54 1 December 2019 09: 47
        +1
        To give orders, it’s from the time of the USSR, all the same, for a long time he was deputy First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine on IDEOLOGY. You can’t drink verbiage.
      3. Sailor
        Sailor 1 December 2019 11: 01
        0
        hi He does not need orders - yet 42 years old, and not a goof besides ...
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    3. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 1 December 2019 10: 00
      0
      The car and the clown are still the FAT laughing
    4. Alexander Petrov1
      Alexander Petrov1 1 December 2019 19: 01
      0
      "Kravchuk gave advice to Zelensky before negotiations with Putin in Paris" - as he did in 1991, to take and abolish the state of Ukraine and become part of the Russian Federation ... laughing
  2. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 1 December 2019 07: 14
    +2
    Who is this?
    1. lwxx
      lwxx 1 December 2019 07: 18
      +10
      One loser gives advice to another loser.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 1 December 2019 07: 51
        +2
        Quote: lwxx
        One loser gives advice to another loser.

        good
        Based:
        At the same time, Kravchuk emphasized that at the summit all participants should talk about what "meets the interests of the Ukrainian people".

        They use this opportunity on TV channels, now they decided to legalize it in world practice ...
        What to talk about with such politicians, and does it make sense to go to such negotiations?
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 1 December 2019 08: 36
          +2
          Zele, in general, has been giving so much advice lately that I personally have a picture:
          - First-grader for the first time in the first class sent! They advise with whom to sit down, behave quietly, listen to teachers, etc.)))
          And they advise everyone ::: dad-mom, cousin aunt, old grandfather..
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 1 December 2019 08: 41
        +6
        Quote: lwxx
        One loser gives advice to another loser.

        Your koment made me remember two guys ... laughing
        1. lwxx
          lwxx 1 December 2019 13: 08
          0
          yes I wanted to add, but did not allow censorship.
  3. Mouse
    Mouse 1 December 2019 07: 23
    +3
    Ukrainians are a "great people" and demonstrate will and courage, "defending the national interests of the country"

    how can you do it without the "great" - then? well, not how! one question ... how to demonstrate "greatness" ???? wassat the crown holds on the ears .... laughing
    1. Masha
      Masha 1 December 2019 08: 04
      +13
      A lion walks through the woods.
      Meets a giraffe:
      - Hey, long-necked! Who is the bravest in the forest?
      - You, lion!
      Leo smiled pretty and moves on.
      Sees a zebra:
      - Hey, striped! Who is the most beautiful in the forest?
      “Of course you are, lion!”
      The lion, proud, went on.
      Sees an elephant:
      - Hey, long-nosed! Who is the smartest in the forest?
      The elephant takes the lion with a trunk, throws it over its back and throws it into the swamp. The lion climbs out, shakes off the mud and says:
      - Well, why be so nervous? You could just say "I don't know."
      Leo, of course, is said loudly, but you won’t erase words from the joke .... laughing
      love
      1. Starper-xnumx
        Starper-xnumx 1 December 2019 09: 33
        +1
        Quote: Masha
        Hey, long-nosed! Who is the smartest in the forest?
        The elephant takes the lion with a trunk, throws it over its back and throws it into the swamp. The lion climbs out, shakes off the mud and says:
        - Well, why be so nervous? You could just say "I don't know."

        You are Maria, as always feminine insightful in subtle hints .. love
        1. Masha
          Masha 1 December 2019 10: 10
          +6
          Hi, there! To the old soldier !!!! love
          glad to see you! fellow
          and jokes .... so they are from life .... wink
    2. sniperino
      sniperino 1 December 2019 14: 03
      +1
      Quote: Mouse
      how to demonstrate "greatness" ????
      As in another anecdote - "And now, son, start chuckling - show me how independent Ukraine is"
      PS for a moderator: if the word is forbidden, please replace it with "masturbate", although it's better not to throw out words from the song.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 1 December 2019 07: 30
    +3
    Are they really still not in a house that no Ukraine in this West interests anyone? Just an object of influence against Russia. And the facility’s capabilities were almost exhausted, a crack (s) passed through the country, the Nazis, who were an obvious minority, seized power ... Another blow, another ...
    1. parkello
      parkello 1 December 2019 08: 34
      +1
      they all understand very well, but they are already like demons. They cannot tell the truth. even they know it.
    2. cniza
      cniza 1 December 2019 08: 35
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Just an object of influence against Russia. And the facility’s capabilities were almost exhausted, a crack (s) passed through the country, the Nazis, who were an obvious minority, seized power ... Another blow, another ...


      Maybe someone understands, but the authorities hope to have time to fill their pockets, complete the owner’s settings, and then dump.
  5. 1976AG
    1976AG 1 December 2019 07: 32
    +7
    If you are not going to make any compromises, then what's the point of negotiating at all? They would immediately say that there would be no concessions, they would save everyone time.
    1. Gileada
      Gileada 1 December 2019 07: 43
      0
      We read the quote of the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Alexey Danilov.
      I am sure that from President Zelensky not a single step towards any concessions that will not benefit our state, we will not see there

      Obviously, all concessions will be declared useful for Ukraine. After all, there is not a single politician in the world who makes decisions to the detriment of the country. Always for the sake of people, no matter what decision is made. So there is a sense in the negotiations, as well as a high probability of concessions from Ukraine, concessions that will naturally be declared exclusively useful to the state.
    2. cniza
      cniza 1 December 2019 08: 33
      +2
      Quote: 1976AG
      If you are not going to make any compromises, then what's the point of negotiating at all? They would immediately say that there would be no concessions, they would save everyone time.


      They believe that they all owe ...
  6. bistrov.
    bistrov. 1 December 2019 07: 43
    0
    "... everyone should talk about what is in the interests of the Ukrainian people ...."
    Yeah, now, they scattered, hehe ..., well, exactly according to EBNu - got up in the morning and think, what else could I do for "Ukraine"? This is perhaps not naivety, but arrogance and great conceit, but this is not just a Zapadenskaya selyuk product of a TV tamer who believes that "the whole world is with us", but a man who was president and is perfectly familiar with international political cuisine. Well, you just wonder!
  7. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 1 December 2019 07: 53
    +4
    Kravchuk is a bright representative of the CPSU party nomenclature ... an arrogant talker with a capital letter - he is one of those who sold the USSR.
    1. cniza
      cniza 1 December 2019 08: 32
      +1
      And all his advice is verbiage, but on matters the picture is completely different.
      1. viktor_ui
        viktor_ui 1 December 2019 08: 41
        +3
        under the USSR, he was a PUPPY, and an hour grew into a burnt louse ... I think that it is disgusting for all those born in the USSR to look at it like him ... and no racism.
        1. cniza
          cniza 1 December 2019 08: 49
          +2
          As the earth still endures it - he is Judas, or rather one of those Judas ...
  8. demo
    demo 1 December 2019 08: 09
    0
    My father-in-law, a doctor by profession, sometimes, under 100 grams, used to say an interesting maxim.
    "Did the patient sweat before his death?
    Ah, sweating!
    This is good.
    That this crazy project will end is wonderful.
    But the fact that the stench of a corpse will poison our existence for a long time is terrible.
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 1 December 2019 08: 10
    0
    At the same time, Kravchuk emphasized that at the summit All participants should say that "meets the interests of the Ukrainian people."

    Or maybe even pray "to all the participants" for the unnecessary ?! laughing
  10. cniza
    cniza 1 December 2019 08: 31
    +1
    declare that Ukrainians are a "great nation"


    It can be stated, but judged by deeds and fact ...
  11. Lesorub
    Lesorub 1 December 2019 08: 40
    +2
    I would advise this: defend Ukraine

    This figure, who had already "defended" the Union at one time, now distributes advice - on the same page as the "hunchback".
  12. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 1 December 2019 08: 46
    +1
    should say that "meets the interests of the Ukrainian people."
    The interests of the Ukrainian people are responsible for cleansing from Bandera, Kravchuk and Kolomoisky. request
  13. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 1 December 2019 09: 04
    +1
    Kravchuk gave advice to Zelensky, Zelensky answered with advice to Kravchuk ... Both understood the route, but were not satisfied. laughing
  14. Nikolay87
    Nikolay87 1 December 2019 09: 14
    0
    all participants should talk about what "meets the interests of the Ukrainian people."

    And why, then, should any meetings be held if ALL SHOULD speak only about the interests of the outskirts ?!
  15. rocket757
    rocket757 1 December 2019 09: 15
    0
    . I would advise this: defend Ukraine

    Yes, they ALL defended Ukraine so !!! now it is necessary to save the "patient", from such "defenders"!
  16. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 1 December 2019 09: 17
    +1
    The teacher at school taught us worldly wisdom. He said, "Avoska held on to Neboska, and both fell." Shit teaches to be shit, but more smelly. Smear, he says, snot in the face, declare that we were deceived, the good uncle will forgive.
    This is not to be said and done, a bitch tribe !!! crush their fascists, and ask for help from Russia in this holy cause. And it will be like in Syria.
  17. Moore
    Moore 1 December 2019 09: 32
    +3
    A veteran loser gives advice to a junior loser.
  18. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 1 December 2019 09: 41
    0
    Everything is classic.
    "He spoke wringing his hands
    Krasnobai and troublemaker "
    V.S. Vysotsky.
  19. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 1 December 2019 09: 51
    +1
    Kravchuk would sit and keep quiet .. If Zelensky is simply stupid, then Kravchuk is smart and stealing. He also signed this Budapest Memorandum
  20. atos_kin
    atos_kin 1 December 2019 10: 02
    0
    We are waiting for Gorbachev's advice to Putin before the negotiations in Paris.
  21. askort154
    askort154 1 December 2019 10: 03
    0
    Kravchuk plays the guitar, Zelensky will plaintively sing. crying
  22. Terenin
    Terenin 1 December 2019 10: 08
    +2
    . Kravchuk: I would advise this: ... These are not just words. For example, it is necessary to tell the truth frankly and sincerely - we were deceived ...

    -Love, Lyubka! .. - the mother got by force. - You say this: if you, say, you are a nice man, you arrived — to accumulate fat and then again to hang around the world — then, say, leave the same day, do not tear me in front of people ...
    Say it like this: if, tell me, what’s wrong with your mind, then collect the monkeys and ...
    V. Shukshin "Red Kalina"
  23. Ros 56
    Ros 56 1 December 2019 10: 36
    0
    From this old Bandera and not hear anything else. He would first decide who the Ukrainians are, although what am I talking about? For him, Ukrainians are banderlogs and that’s it. Therefore, the partition of Ukraine is inevitable.
  24. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 1 December 2019 10: 39
    0
    Another "obonkrostiuschiya" politician tells how to behave to the president of Ukraine, and why such a smart himself did not rule?
    Why is it so caring about the Ukrainian people that it’s not resting on its laurels now, but is afraid to sleep without a gun?))
  25. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 1 December 2019 10: 42
    +1
    ... "I advised Zelensky, when talking with Putin, to" defend Ukraine ", to declare that Ukrainians are a" great nation "...
    In short, Zelensky suggested starting the conversation with jokes and thereby earn Putin’s favor))
  26. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 1 December 2019 10: 46
    0
    Quote: atos_kin
    We are waiting for Gorbachev's advice to Putin before the negotiations in Paris.

    We are waiting for the Nuland cookies to green before the meeting.
  27. meidragon
    meidragon 1 December 2019 10: 48
    0
    Kravchuk place on a pillar in a hemp tie
  28. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 1 December 2019 10: 52
    0
    The Budapest memorandum is not ratified by the State Duma of the Russian Federation. So this is just a piece of paper. It is necessary from Zelensky to demand an agreement on the state border with the return of Ukraine to the borders of 1918. Dot!
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 1 December 2019 11: 38
      0
      Quote: Dzafdet
      The Budapest memorandum is not ratified by the State Duma of the Russian Federation. So this is just a piece of paper.

      The Minsk agreements have not been ratified by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, so this is just a piece of paper. So if Russia wants an honest game, she’s got a hand in the cards to show how this is done by personal example. First, the Budapest Memorandum, then (years later) agreement. All honestly.
  29. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 1 December 2019 11: 10
    0
    = On the eve of Ukraine's NSDC Secretary Oleksiy Danilov said that at the summit in Paris, Ukrainian President Zelensky "will not make any concessions to Putin."
    Did I miss something? Did Yaneloch-6 set any conditions for us? From which he "will not make any concessions"? Yes-ah, cool pepper!
  30. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 1 December 2019 11: 18
    -1
    When will it finally come to the Ukrainian policy that Ukraine is not subjective when it comes to geopolitics?
  31. frizzy
    frizzy 1 December 2019 11: 24
    -1
    They want to replay Putin
  32. Prisoner
    Prisoner 1 December 2019 11: 25
    0
    Did this senile think that he is a geopolitics guru? Better to tell him how he built the "second France" in Ukraine. Builder, PRST!
  33. frizzy
    frizzy 1 December 2019 11: 26
    -2
    They want to replay Putin, the grandfather of the person who replayed Putin was not born yet
  34. 123456789
    123456789 1 December 2019 11: 37
    0
    There is even an algorithm for this. It seems amazingly simple.
    If any inconsistencies occur, identify one person on each side.
    Then identify the leader in the corporate hierarchy to which both are subordinate. Make an appointment for the three of them. At the meeting, the two sides will present one correct decision, which they agreed on.
    The head will only have to listen and ratify it.

    Hence the conclusion:
    Putin has nothing to do at this meeting without representatives of the republics if he does not want to look like a representative of a party to the conflict.
    For representatives of republics to attend the meeting, they (republics) must be recognized!
  35. Honest Citizen
    Honest Citizen 1 December 2019 11: 40
    -4
    What advice? There only one thing can be said: the Ze must instantly stand in the knee-elbow position, only to decide in whom the head and to whom the loin. But sensing the latest trends in geyrop, he successfully solved this problem.
  36. Andrey Kirilenko_2
    Andrey Kirilenko_2 1 December 2019 11: 42
    -2
    Zeltsu has more diapers on the road, and of fair wind
  37. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 1 December 2019 12: 26
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    And I think that Kravchuk deceived everyone with Shushkevich and Yeltsin, for three, in the Belarusian forests.
    What is greatness? What have forgotten the achievements of fathers and grandfathers, and caved in under the bandera?
    We even know these interests - to sit on a pipe and parasitize on a neighbor. laughing
  38. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 1 December 2019 12: 27
    +1
    The country must live within its means. Funds are earned by the labor of all, not blackmail and theft. Freebie passed feel
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 1 December 2019 13: 26
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      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Funds are earned by the labor of all, not blackmail and theft.

      hi
      Eck you, my friend, have had enough. And the oligarchy of the former Ukraine NEM has another way out. I want free money and a lot (expenses over the hill are not expensive). There is almost nothing to plunder and squeeze inside the country, the external debt is transcendental (and you will have to pay back), and in the treasury there is no "gold reserve". And what do you want to do, how not to trade in land and "sit down" on a pipe with someone else's product? Something like that. yes

      Add to this $ 3 lard for 2018-2019.
  39. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 1 December 2019 12: 29
    +3
    By the way, in what way during the war does the head of one belligerent go to negotiations with the head of another.
    Estimate 1942, Hitler goes to Stalin to talk about gas supplies to the Wehrmacht. laughing laughing
  40. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 1 December 2019 12: 31
    +1
    Kravchuk, if I were you, I would not give any advice! My main advice: to leave "greatness" and rudeness at home; listen carefully to your conscience and reason; CAREFULLY and RESPECTIVE to listen to Putin; analyze other opinions; and remember that the country is behind you, not the Maidan, the market and the nationalists !!!
  41. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 1 December 2019 12: 33
    +1
    Zelensky will simply be sent with a memorandum. Jump on the Maidan. laughing laughing
  42. faterdom
    faterdom 1 December 2019 12: 34
    +1
    At the same time, Kravchuk emphasized that at the summit all participants should say that "meets the interests of the Ukrainian people."

    Yeah, everyone runs and falls.
    Macron is closer to the interests of the French people, Merkel to the German, Putin to the Russian, Zelensky to the American (there are two options for the American people, but, of course, no Ukrainian is provided for there).
    So, only Kravchuk, poor fellow, alone thinks in the interests of the Ukrainian people. By the way, what are the interests of the Ukrainian people? To get Crimea back and present it to the Americans on a silver platter? If so, and I suspect that it is, we want to inform you: the fact is on the face of both peoples - the cunning "Ukrainian" and the glorious "American"!
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 1 December 2019 18: 13
      0
      Zelensky - American ... come on, Ze is taking his gang to the hero at the expense of the budget on chips there to ride ... what can I say. freebie....
  43. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 1 December 2019 12: 36
    0
    Kravchuk is the author of the thesis "Ukraine is not Russia" and an organism that has managed to conceal everything and remain a respected politician? recourse laughing
  44. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 1 December 2019 12: 56
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    Kravchuk: - "I would advise this: to defend Ukraine. These are not just words. For example, it is necessary to say there frankly and sincerely the truth - we were deceived with the Budapest Memorandum."
    And this is said by one who, six months after the Bialowieza betrayal, has fooled 52 million Ukrainians about faithful and indestructible friendship with Russia.
  45. Lelek
    Lelek 1 December 2019 13: 13
    0
    I am sure that from President Zelensky not a single step towards any concessions that will not benefit our state, we will not see there

    What "concessions" are we talking about? Panenka Danilova - turn on "mosch". At the "n-summit" there will be 2 questions: the Ruina's fulfillment of the "Minsk treaty" and Kiev's fulfillment of the conditions for extending the transit of Russian gas to the EU. The issues of "toilet bowls" and other bazaar "hobbyists" will not be considered (this is for domestic consumption for the ragulyam - even the skunk Babchenko, who rose from the grave, understood this).
  46. Operator
    Operator 1 December 2019 13: 56
    +3
    "we were deceived with the Budapest memorandum", - there are no obscene words: Ukraine itself has not yet ratified this document, not to mention other signatories (USA, Britain and the Russian Federation).

    In this connection, the Budapest Memorandum remained just a declaration of intent.
  47. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 1 December 2019 14: 29
    0
    Quote: Vladimir61
    Kravchuk: - "I would advise this: to defend Ukraine. These are not just words. For example, it is necessary to say there frankly and sincerely the truth - we were deceived with the Budapest Memorandum."
    And this is said by one who, six months after the Bialowieza betrayal, has fooled 52 million Ukrainians about faithful and indestructible friendship with Russia.

    Budapest memorandum? laughing Eka you had enough to ask whether the "Verkhovna Rada" ratified this filkin letter? laughing
  48. Moreno
    Moreno 1 December 2019 15: 01
    +1
    And where did the former head of the NSDC Turchinov go?
  49. NF68
    NF68 1 December 2019 17: 38
    0
    Another miracle in feathers from nezalezhnoy. What did he once so stupidly steered Ukraine? Or does it give advice based on his earlier mistakes and obvious stupidities?
  50. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 1 December 2019 22: 47
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    Quote: revnagan
    Quote: Dzafdet
    The Budapest memorandum is not ratified by the State Duma of the Russian Federation. So this is just a piece of paper.

    The Minsk agreements have not been ratified by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, so this is just a piece of paper. So if Russia wants an honest game, she’s got a hand in the cards to show how this is done by personal example. First, the Budapest Memorandum, then (years later) agreement. All honestly.

    If the Minsk Agreements do not work, then a repeat of Ilovaisk is needed. Up to Kiev.