Ankara announced the date of the launch of the Turkish Stream gas pipeline

The commissioning of the Turkish Stream gas pipeline is scheduled for January 8 2020 year. This was announced by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, reports Turkish NTV channel.

Speaking at the ceremony of launching the TANAP gas pipeline, through which Azerbaijani gas will be delivered to Turkey and Europe, in the city of Edirne on the border with Greece, Erdogan said that the start of operation of the Turkish Stream is scheduled for January 8.

Of course, we have another very important step that we will take. On January 8 in Istanbul we will launch a gas pipeline called Turkish Stream

- he said.

Earlier, the press secretary of the Russian head of state Dmitry Peskov said that the ceremony of launching the Turkish Stream gas pipeline will be held in early January and will be attended by Turkish and Russian presidents.

As for the Turkish Stream, I can confirm here that Presidents Putin and Erdogan, in a recent telephone conversation, confirmed their intention to open this project together in early January after all ground work on Turkish territory will be completed

- said Peskov.

Earlier it was reported that both lines of the Turkish Stream gas pipeline were filled with gas, for commissioning it remained to complete commissioning at the Turkish reception terminal near the village of Kiyikey, a compressor station in Russian territory, as well as both lines of the gas pipeline, were ready for operation.

The 930 km "Turkish Stream" runs along the bottom of the Black Sea from the territory of Russia to the coast of Turkey. Next, a land transit line will be laid to the Turkish border with neighboring countries with a length of 180 km. The power of each thread is 15,75 billion cubic meters. m of gas per year, one line will supply gas only to Turkey, the second - through a new terminal to Europe. Among the bidders for gas are Greece, Italy, Bulgaria, Serbia and Hungary.

Comments

[Gennady Fomkin]

Gazprom’s secret cunning plan (or they’d already thought of it, or free advice): 1) Set up, buy up gas storages in Europe.
2) Avoiding long-term contracts under which permanent judges, retroactive and verbal reviews, restrictions and unreasonable fines. 3) Pipelines SP-X and TP-X only for filling their storage facilities, to consumers on a stick, and not direct deliveries. 4) Hello, free market spot / exchange, not direct deliveries. affordable and high gas prices! Not bought - go to the Pope with complaints, freezes, wolf's tail ...

[demo]

The pope is not the main one.
There are guys taller.
Here are the claims to them.

[Whisper]

And who are these guys?

[Starper-xnumx]

Quote: Sheptun

And who are these guys?

Good question he he he
Who called their names, is no longer with us.
Ask you from a comrade from Israel here ..
We are scared heh ha ha ha

[Whisper]

Attention is the correct answer: Dad kisses the hand of the Holocaust survivor.

[demo]

To kiss the hand of the Holocaust survivor (proper name with a capital letter) is an important matter.
But more importantly, one should kiss the hand of those who destroyed the bearers of the ideology of exterminating Jews as a nation.
Any questions?

[sabakina]

Quote: Sheptun

And who are these guys?

You better not know.

[Whisper]

A weak method to show your awareness, the question is already closed.

[demo]

Those who "watch" the ball.

[Whisper]

It looks like you are either specially throwing in, or copy-paste stupid ....

[Errr]

Quote: demo

The pope is not the main one.
There are guys taller.

And much darker ...

Quote: demo

Here are the claims to them.

How? Claim them too ???

[awg75]

we in Europe will not sell the most gas-filled gas station, not like a gas storage facility. and spit on their own laws. They are doing business with us, as there are no other options. as soon as the same amount of gas appears, even at exorbitant prices, the choice will definitely not be in our favor. they would already buy American gas, but there isn’t so much of it. it’s just physically not there. The West knows how to make money from the air, but fortunately you can’t draw or print gas on the exchange.

[Victor N]

The fact that TANAP was introduced before the Turkish Stream is entirely the merit of the Bulgarian brothers.

[mammadov teymur]

hello 51% of the shares of TANAP Russian, you’ll guess whose gas will flow to Europe besides ours

[72jora72]

Gazprom’s secret cunning plan (or they’d already thought of it, or free advice): 1) Set up, buy up gas storages in Europe.

So half of Europe’s gas storage facilities belong to us.

[Alexander Petrov1]

All Ukraine will soon be left without transit ...

[Masha]

cry, cry, cry ... krayina cry ....

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Masha

cry, cry, cry ... krayina cry ....

Train nenka before entering SP2.

[Voyager]

I'll just leave it here

[Adimius38]

where so much joy)))) is it possible for the Russians to reduce the gas price))))

[Brturin]

Quote: Adimius38

Is it possible for Russians to lower the price of gas

The price of gas was lower only in Kazakhstan. https://ria.ru/20190610/1555105304.html?in=t

[Adimius38]

so there is a Russian gasoline cheaper))) then the Russians with barrels and cans dive across the Kazakh border)

[Pereira]

I pay 30 rubles a month for gas. Cheaper - only for nothing.

[Adimius38]

drown and drown with wood

[Adimius38]

and eat at the stake

[AU Ivanov.]

In Russia, the price of gas is one of the lowest in the world.

[Gennady Fomkin]

You will be doubled.

[Starper-xnumx]

Quote: Masha

cry, cry, cry ... krayina cry ....

srach, srach, srach outskirts srach and freebies you can not see

[Ryaruav]

old you have too optimistic views for the future

[Lelek]

Quote: Masha

cry, cry, cry ... krayina cry ....

Well, it may not reach the frank one, with tears on the chin, but the Ohr will be cleaner than the "Jericho" one. If today svidomye "political scientists" and businessmen openly kick at its "present" in the Square, then what will happen after December 8-9 and after the completion of SP-2? By the way, in Austria, secret negotiations took place between the Russian Federation and the former Ukraine on gas issues without the participation of EU representatives and on the cause of the Ukrainian side. What is it for?

[cost]

one line will supply gas only to Turkey, the second - through a new terminal to Europe. Among the bidders for gas are Greece, Italy, Bulgaria, Serbia and Hungary.

Ukraine seized on gas transportation like a tick, and Bulgaria chopped off its own transit.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Is Bulgaria becoming a gas hub? l I won’t be surprised if gas from Azerbaijan and Greece actually turns out to be Russian, hehe

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Masha

cry, cry, cry ... krayina cry ....

The population of Russia has the same tears - they pull three branches over the hill, but they forgot their settlements. Or better to say scored. Of course, they pay more for a hillock. My mom has been promised gas in the town of Mezhdurechensk since 2010, but it doesn’t go beyond promises. Most PGT is non-gasified. And such settlements are full in the Samara region, I personally know people from the village. Lunacharsky and the village of Yagodnoye, who live 100-150 meters from the gas pipe and are drowned with electricity for about 10 years. Uncle's wife ........

[AU Ivanov.]

There is such a country - Norway. It produces a lot of oil and gas, as much as 6 times more is not a muzzle-face than we are. Do you think they have gas from the pipe? At best from balloons. And either electricity or firewood. Similarly, in neighboring Sweden. The Swedes, by the way, import firewood from Russia.

[Adimius38]

Of course, only the Swedes move on new Volvo and Vanya from the village on the old leaky basin-seven is called

[AU Ivanov.]

I don’t see classics in the village. Dusters, Largus, Solaris.

[Adimius38]

and you are not in the village, look))) but at the entrance to the big city in the morning from the village))

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

There is such a country - Norway.

And there is also Turkmenistan, Qatar, the UAE.
And yes - in Norway there is a social state where people get salaries for which they can afford expensive gas and gas. The average salary is 4600 euros. Unlike us. And the pension is 1.300.000 rubles. in year.

[AU Ivanov.]

How do social benefits relate to gasification? Moreover, given the country's area, it is much easier to gasify settlements in Norway. Yes, and social benefits are easier to pay, with their scale of hydrocarbon production.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

in Norway gasification of settlements is much easier.

Is it easier in fiords?
Can we move on to BV countries?

[AU Ivanov.]

Our conditions are no better. Rivers, swamps, mountains, and most importantly - distances.

[Ingvar 72]

Andrey, why are you fixated on Norway alone? Let's talk about Qatar and the UAE, CA, Kuwait. About Turkmenistan.

[AU Ivanov.]

Let's talk about Kuwait. Desert, territory with a gulkin nose, put yourself pipes, I don’t want to. Oil production per capita is 9 times more than in the Russian Federation. In Qatar, it’s already at 14. Climatic conditions and production costs cannot be compared with ours either, the country's infrastructure is much cheaper in terms of maintenance.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

the country's infrastructure for maintenance is orders of magnitude cheaper.

By no means, they have big problems with water. And we have free electricity from the hydroelectric power station. In addition, there is still a bunch of minerals that generate income. And also Andrey - it is not always possible to be guided only by economic benefits. Especially in relation to their own population.

[AU Ivanov.]

The share of hydroelectric power plants in generation is only 16%. Freebies a bit. Norwegians have almost 98% free electricity, due to geographical features. But economic laws should not be neglected; the Union ignored them, and therefore fell apart. The burden of inefficient industries existing only on subsidies turned out to be too strong for the country.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

Norwegians have almost 98% free electric power,

Well, what are you hooked to the taxes? I already told you above. The norgs have a lot of things, but in comparison with Russia in minerals they are Holodtrans.

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Quote: Masha

cry, cry, cry ... krayina cry ....

The population of Russia has the same tears - they pull three branches over the hill, but they forgot their settlements. Or better to say scored. Of course, they pay more for a hillock. My mom has been promised gas in the town of Mezhdurechensk since 2010, but it doesn’t go beyond promises. Most PGT is non-gasified. And such settlements are full in the Samara region, I personally know people from the village. Lunacharsky and the village of Yagodnoye, who live 100-150 meters from the gas pipe and are drowned with electricity for about 10 years. Uncle's wife ........

Gasification in the USSR to remote and not very villages and towns, in conditions when the gas price was 4 kopecks per cubic meter, was not possible in principle. Not a single one will pull a pipe to a coal-mining village, which is Mezhdurechensk, with its own mine of the future - "Raspadskaya" and coal pits, in which 85 thousand live. A pipe from Tatarstan, at least. Now, when prices have become close to reasonable (any work must be profitable), gasification in the country has reached 40% of the entire inhabited territory, and in cities - up to 70%. Comparing Norway with the territory that you travel from the western to the eastern border by train in 6 hours, with ours, which includes 5 France only in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, only the last bastard can.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Vkd dvk

which is Mezhdurechensk,

Mezhdurechensk in the Samara region, a plain, a gas pipeline in 1.5 kilometers. Low pressure gas pipe 700 meters from the mother’s house (outskirts). To other houses even closer.
P.S. In PGT there is still gas, in about five houses, it was extended by people at own expense.

[Alien From]

Another small carnation in the lid of the coffin of the Nebtatsk GTS.

[parkello]

no fucking..little if only I would be ashamed, such a .. aspen stake. to call "little carnation"

[Alien From]

I try to be tolerant ....)))

[knn54]

The second "string", judging by the possibilities, will be able to provide, for example, only Italy and Greece.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Conclusions and forecasts.

So what do we have ...

1. Today, the possibility that transit through the gas transportation system of Ukraine will not be interrupted on January 1, 2020, is concluded only with two expected events:

1) Obtaining a certificate by ukro-transiter until January 1, 2020.

2) Conclusion of a transit agreement.

Since Naftogaz threatened to confiscate gas during attempts to pump it after 10.00:1 on January 2020, XNUMX without a transit agreement, transit through the gas transportation system will be suspended shortly from now on unless the parties find some non-standard solution. In the meantime, nothing of the kind is visible on the horizon.

2. GAZPROM will conclude a transit agreement with the new transit, after certification of the latter. The volume of pumping in this agreement can be roughly estimated ...

We put the Nord Stream - 2 starts in June 2020. Then the shortcoming of the estimated deliveries can be (approximately): 90-14-16 = 60.

This is the payback limit of the Ukrainian GTS.

3. In the future, if Ukraine does not agree to cancel all claims in the courts, GAZPROM will purchase pumping capacities at auctions, in which the Urainy GTS will be guaranteed to be unprofitable. At the same time, Ukraine will be obliged to pump the volumes purchased by GAZPROM. This is the very zrada about which they do not yet suspect hugely, as usual loudly, twisting pood blows to Muscovites, in a hopak celebrating the "black boredom" over GAZPROM! Zrada will be revealed later, for example, in the transit report or in the next draft budget, where from the transit line with the usual profitability the deputies will see the very pood blows that they used to play among Muscovites!

[major147]

Some clarifications do not replace the essence of the post above:

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

1. Today, the possibility that transit through the gas transportation system of Ukraine will not be interrupted on January 1, 2020, is concluded only with two expected events:
1) Obtaining a certificate by ukro-transiter until January 1, 2020.
2) Conclusion of a transit agreement.

Today 12: 21
The Ukrainian company Naftogaz received a notice from the Russian Gazprom, which states that from January 1 at 10:00 Moscow time the Russian Federation will have no legal basis for continuing gas supplies ....

2. GAZPROM will conclude a transit agreement with the new transit, after certification of the latter. The volume of pumping in this agreement can be roughly estimated ...

The deadline for concluding such an agreement is December 13.12.2019, XNUMX, because beyond the territory of the outskirts it is also necessary to conclude similar agreements ...

[Brturin]

Quote: major147

The deadline for concluding such an agreement is December 13.12.2019, XNUMX.

Novak - "We did not discuss the terms, they just indicate the date that they have in the decision ..., a specific date for booking capacities", but Bulgartransgaz held a tender for booking capacities from December 21, 2018 to January 31 2019, so that if you act according to the rules, you are given time to submit applications, then time for consideration, then time to appeal the decision, and only then a contract is concluded ...

[major147]

Quote: BrTurin

Quote: major147

The deadline for concluding such an agreement is December 13.12.2019, XNUMX.

Novak - "We did not discuss the terms, they just indicate the date that they have in the decision ..., a specific date for booking capacities", but Bulgartransgaz held a tender for booking capacities from December 21, 2018 to January 31 2019, so that if you act according to the rules, you are given time to submit applications, then time for consideration, then time to appeal the decision, and only then a contract is concluded ...

[Lelek]

Of course, we have another very important step that we will take. On January 8 in Istanbul we will launch a gas pipeline called Turkish Stream

Good prelude for n-format negotiations. I can imagine how the "guarantors" from the EU will be "happy" about this and how delighted this will lead the "sentenced" hetman of the Square. Well, and of course, celebrations with fireworks and "embroidered shirts" in the Ruin itself.

[Gennady Fomkin]

So this ...

The IMF came in a week ... He looked at the wretched, turned around without giving money and left ...

[major147]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

So this ...

The IMF came in a week ... He looked at the wretched, turned around without giving money and left ...

"I demand the continuation of the banquet!" (from)

[rocket757]

How many geyropes do not drive gas, it will not be enough for her! And no green mold will help here!
In general, it’s not forever ... the gas will end, and alternative energy will develop, but it’s not right tomorrow, the day after tomorrow!

[Klingon]

here besides Svidomo and Bulgarians will bite their elbows. TC missed such a fat piece of gas pie
rather, they ordered him to drop a fox in a striped hat

[Adimius38]

Russians will bite their elbows when they catch up with a petrol to 50r for ai 92 and announce new housing and utility tariffs in 2020

[Aviator_]

But won't Zelensky be invited? There probably will be a concert before the banquet, that’s to entertain the presidents.

[major147]

Quote: Aviator_

that would have entertained the presidents.

Playing the piano?

[Aviator_]

At least. Not all of our Psaki (Zakharova) Kalinka-Malinka dance.

[Xenofont]

God grant that Putin and his team have calculated all the risks of such a costly partnership with the "Sultan." From the outside it looks like a game "for a thin one" with very low chances to preserve their investments with such methods of conducting the partner's policy.

[Lena Petrova]

Quote: awg75

as soon as the same amount of gas appears, even at exorbitant prices, the choice will definitely not be in our favor. they would already buy American gas, but there isn’t so much of it.

Then many products will increase in price and become less competitive. You, obviously, also choose in the store - which is more expensive?

[cat Rusich]

Ukraine - an example for the EU ... You can buy "free gas "with an extra charge -" freedom "has a" price of $ ". The store is the same - there are goods for the" poor ", there are goods for" secured ". Which part of the body" thinks "the bosses of ukraine, and what is the place of the EU leadership ...? The bosses of ukraine -" ... my hulk (purse) is the head of everything ... ".

[Gennady Fomkin]

Russian supplies accounted for 40% of total EU imports, followed by Norway (37%), Algeria (7%) and Libya (2%); LNG imports covered the remaining (13%). Q1 2019:

Russian pipeline supplies remained the main source of gas imports from the EU, covering 40% of imports, followed by Norwegian pipeline imports (31%), LNG imports (22%) and pipeline supplies from North Africa (7%).

Q2 2019:

Russian pipeline supplies remained the main source of gas imports from the EU, covering 45% of imports, followed by Norwegian pipeline imports (25%), LNG imports from various sources (almost 25%), and pipeline deliveries from northern Africa (5%) Distribution of shares of major suppliers of LNG:

Q3 2018 Qatar (43%), Nigeria (17%) and Algeria (12%). The US share was only 3%. The share of Russia is not indicated.

On December 11, 2018, the Yamal LNG project was launched at full capacity. In November 2018, the United States launched the Corpus Christi Liquefaction LNG plant in Texas.

Q4 2018 Qatar (22%) Russia (17%), USA (12%).

Q1 2019 Qatar (22%), Russia (21%) and the USA (13%).

Q2 2019 Qatar (30%), Russia (19%) and the United States (12%) In the second quarter of 2019, Russia came close to the 50% line, delivering 49,75% of the total imports of the European Union. The U.S. share was only 3%. In the second quarter of 2019, Russia came close to the 50% line, delivering 49,75% of the total imports of the European Union. The US share was only 3%.

The European Union today is critically dependent on gas supplies from Russia

[Lena Petrova]

The share of Norway will be steadily declining. Both for oil and gas.

[Gennady Fomkin]

The share of gas revenues in the Russian budget is insignificant, with their complete loss, we will not feel any special consequences.

But if the EU stops receiving Russian gas, I am sorry for the EU countries.

Conclusion - sit on the pope evenly and do not tease the bear. Otherwise, Ukraine is an example to you.

[Brturin]

Quote: rocket757

How many geyropes do not drive gas, it will not be enough for her!

young, not a little, but so far Gazprom is not counting on big records - “Probably, we should take the medium-term prospect - 3, 4, 5 years –– and proceed from an assessment of the market niche that Gazprom can occupy. Taking into account all the forecasts –– at least until 2022 –– an increase in demand for gas, both pipeline and liquefied, is expected. Our niche can be estimated at between 194–204 billion cubic meters. m. What will be the specific number? We expect that it will at least be at the level of 2019 ”- Acting Head of Gazprom Export Department Andrei Zotov

[for]

Quote: 72jora72

So half of Europe’s gas storage facilities belong to us.

What did you buy?

[Gennady Fomkin]

Country Rub./cu.m. m. The volume of gas available for the average salary Price per 1000 cubic meters. m., USD 1 Sweden RUB 88 2154 1362
2 Italy 71 rubles 1814 1098
3 Denmark 68 rubles 3203 1052
4 Spain 65 rubles 1950 1009
5 Netherlands 64 rubles 3352 993
6 Portugal 58 rubles 1381 905
7 France 57 rubles 2963 881
8 Ireland 57 rubles 3687 879
9 Austria 52 rubles 3632 809
10 Greece 49 rubles 1926 755
11 Belgium 47 rubles 3758 721
12 Germany 45 rubles 4034 701
13 Slovenia 43 rubles 1808 666
14 Czech Republic 42 rubles 1585 655
15 UK 39 rub 5260 602
16 Slovakia 34 rubles 1618 530
17 Latvia 34 rubles 1520 520
18 Poland 33 rubles 1685 518
19 Bulgaria 33 rubles 1153 504
20 Luxembourg 32 rubles 7870 495
21 Estonia 32 rubles 2591 490
22 Lithuania 30 rubles 1721 467
23 Croatia 27 rubles 2266 414
24 Romania 26 rubles 1575 399
25 Serbia 26 rubles 1185 396
26 Hungary 26 rubles 1972 396
27 Bosnia and Herzegovina 24 rubles 1355 376
28 Moldova 21 rubles 1056 323
29 Ukraine 20 rubles 1018 313
30 Türkiye 15 rubles 2017 227
31 Belarus 10 rubles 2936 151
32 Russia 6 rubles 6652 95
33 Kazakhstan 3 rubles 7521 50

[Vkd dvk]

In your version this table, in the primary source, is difficult to read. Having placed here, the speakers were lost.
With your permission, I am posting material here selected by you.



At the same time, please inform the source. Where did it come from.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Both Ukraine and the EU are doing everything to drive gas negotiations into a dead end. For which it is not very clear, winter is coming soon. And how will they begin to freeze different parts of their body, they will begin to shout in chorus that Russia is to blame for everything? In the current situation, they all need to think about energy security, and not about confrontation with Russia. as usual, they climbed into the cauldron, covered themselves with a pan, and squealed without regaining consciousness.

Traditions.