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Better to Dress: The Outcome of 2020 Strategy

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Better to Dress: The Outcome of 2020 Strategy

Behind all kinds of geopolitical upheavals, many Russians began to forget about the existence in our country of the concept of long-term socio-economic development, previously called the “Strategy-2020”. It was approved 11 years ago - in November 2008 years. The concept was developed by hundreds of experts in the field of economics under the guidance of HSE representatives.


Let us recall several key strategic parameters of the concept: growth of labor productivity by 40%, growth of life expectancy by 2,5 years, growth of GDP to 38%, growth of household incomes by 50 with more than percent, growth of investments by 80%. Unfortunately, nothing was achieved from this list, by and large, except for statements about the increase in life expectancy before the pension reform and Sveta’s theses from Ivanovo, which became “better dressed”.

Among the authors of “2020 Strategy” are German Gref, Eugene Yasin, Oleg Vyugin, Ann Krueger (former IMF deputy head), Marek Dombrowski (Polish economist), Gerard Roland (American University of Berkeley), etc.

"Strategy-2020" implied a reduction in defense spending.

In the program "Prime Numbers" Oleg Komolov talks about the results of "Strategy-2020", which can be summed up now:
When something doesn’t work out, you can blame everything on unfavorable conditions with the face of a bad dancer. And you can do even easier: do not remember old promises at all, each time coming up with new and as distant goals as possible.


The only thing that at first managed to “cope” with the reduction of spending on the “defense industry”. Then, however, they realized it, otherwise, together with problems in the economy, they would have got unsolvable problems with the Armed Forces.

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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 30 November 2019 16: 17
    +24
    Behind all kinds of geopolitical upheavals, many Russians began to forget about the existence in our country of the concept of long-term socio-economic development, previously called the “Strategy-2020”. It was approved 11 years ago - in November 2008 years. The concept was developed by hundreds of experts in the field of economics under the guidance of HSE representatives.

    This hundred experts are slackers. who stuck to the budget ..
    Sane people have long understood that these ............. can not give birth. The state is mired in corruption, nepotism and outright betrayal .. when the mouthpieces of propaganda are all citizens and have a residence permit in other countries, when the president is lying without hesitation in the eyes of the people .. All these populists, like ticks, stuck to the bodies of ordinary citizens and in order to drink blood without fear for themselves, through propaganda they inject anesthesia into the body of the victim (the people of Russia) .. through the lips of Solovyov, Kiselev ... and others ..
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 30 November 2019 16: 24
      -25
      "Article", Today, 16:15

      Quote: Svarog
      loafers. who stuck to the budget ..

      And in 16.17 - here it is, "Svarokh" was drawn ... you will not erase laughing

      Are you on duty, or something .. "first on)))" wink fellow

      "Svarog", I was not lucky with self-defense ... but you want stars, right?

      But the vegetable is for you, not the stars (s) laughing
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 30 November 2019 16: 31
        +10
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        loafers. who stuck to the budget ..

        On duty or something .. first on)))

        And this is the first loafer and a mouthpiece of power in VO laughing Golovan, he is also a Consultant, he is Kisa (cat manul), and a lot of all kinds of nicknames .. together with his paid associates, he defends the ruin of n = citizens and the Russian state. He fights for the Edro and the great helmsman .. who for 20 years in power have made Russia a third world country, which in many respects lags behind the countries of Africa .. Cheers Kitty!
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 30 November 2019 17: 28
          -6
          Quote: Svarog
          And this is the first loafer and a mouthpiece of power in VO Golovan, he is also a Consultant, he is Kisa (cat manul), and a lot of all kinds of nicknames ..

          I'm bored with you, Vova ... you are a loafer - I just walked along the road, but I came across you ... and I can’t say that I am delighted.

          Do not be foolish. Buddy laughing
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 30 November 2019 17: 10
        +10
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        "Article", Today, 16:15

        Quote: Svarog
        loafers. who stuck to the budget ..

        And at 16.17 - here it is, "Svarokh" was drawn ...

        Actually, yes, if taking into account that the film lasts 11 minutes, then these are obvious abstracts. Why substitute yourself?
        Incidentally,
        The concept was developed by experts in the field of economics under the guidance of HSE representatives.
        these HSE liberalists, both economized, and continue to economize.
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      4. WIKI
        WIKI 30 November 2019 17: 44
        +7
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        "Article", Today, 16:15

        Quote: Svarog
        loafers. who stuck to the budget ..

        And at 16.17 - here it is, "Svarokh" was drawn ... you will not erase
        I watched this video at the beginning of publication, i.e. 9 days ago. So what?
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 30 November 2019 17: 46
          -16
          Quote: WIKI
          I am this video

          Are you here at all - which side and where?

          Pass by, do not shine yes
    2. UserGun
      UserGun 30 November 2019 16: 34
      +5
      Quote: Svarog
      when the president is not embarrassed in the eyes of the people lying.


      Yeah ... Well, when there were no presidents ...:

      "On October 17, 1961, the XXII Congress of the CPSU opened, at which the main objective Soviet Union - to build communism by 1980. "

      "By 2000, each family will be living in a separate apartment" 1986 year.
      1. Neznaika
        Neznaika 30 November 2019 19: 54
        -6
        At all times there were storytellers.
        Someone promised communism.
        Someone has 25 million high-tech jobs.
        The result is one - zilch.
        1. alex aircraft
          alex aircraft 30 November 2019 21: 58
          +5
          Only Comrade Khrushchev. didn’t name the enemies - our western partners and pursued a policy without regard to the opinion of: the world community:
    3. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 30 November 2019 17: 08
      +12
      Quote: Svarog
      All these populists, like ticks, stuck to the body of ordinary citizens, and to drink blood without fear for themselves, they inject anesthesia into the body of the victim (the people of Russia) through the lips of Solovyov, Kiselyov ... and others ..

      On the square would look good, heroically. It seems ripe. Another step forward?hi
    4. impostor
      impostor 30 November 2019 20: 42
      +2
      Unfortunately (deep), scientific communism is not just excluded from the educational paradigm, but actually equated with extremism. Otherwise, suffering minds, especially young ones, would have fully realized that the superstructure always strives for a basis (politics is a concentrated expression of the economy). This nightmare will not stop until the basis is overturned. And the anesthesiologists in robes and kimonos will end up fail, because they are the class antipode of the holder of sovereignty and the only source of power of the Russian Federation (according to the basic law)
    5. Dmitry Gundorov
      Dmitry Gundorov 30 November 2019 23: 33
      -1
      So these are not "idlers", they are to blame, they only wrote the strategy, those who could not implement it are to blame. those people who have been in power for over 20 years
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 30 November 2019 16: 33
    +1
    Personally, my opinion is that Strategy 2020 could be, if not implemented, then brought closer to what was announced, but ... This is a damn "but" ... If they ask me, I consider 2014 a turning point. It was after him, after the vectors of foreign policy changed, that Strategy 2020 became as illusory as communism.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 30 November 2019 16: 39
      +4
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      It is after him, after the vectors of foreign policy have changed,

      The price of oil has changed .. and it became clear to many that how we lived due to the sale of hydrocarbons, we still live, but the price fell and life became more difficult .. There is no money, but you stay there ..
      1. UserGun
        UserGun 30 November 2019 16: 55
        -11
        Quote: Svarog
        The price of oil has changed .. and it became clear to many that how we lived due to the sale of hydrocarbons, we still live, but the price fell and life became more difficult .. There is no money, but you stay there ..


        Therefore, the "developed sisialism" of the SS, about which crocodiles are shedding tears here, including you, existed only thanks to her ?! )))

        1. WIKI
          WIKI 30 November 2019 17: 57
          +16
          The USSR lived with a 6% share of oil and gas in the budget. In modern Russia, this is 43%. How do you like this "SSE".
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            1. WIKI
              WIKI 30 November 2019 21: 55
              +5
              Quote: UserGun
              But, on my previous graph, it is easy to notice the correlations of all "obese" and not at all, years and "developed sisialism"

              One must be blind and not reasonable in order to assert that the dependence of the USSR budget on 6% radically influenced his fate.
              1. UserGun
                UserGun 30 November 2019 23: 29
                +1
                Hey hey !!! You probably still have 1 bucks worth 68 kopecks. ))) Tell me why then the grains were imported into:

                in 1970 - 2,2 million tons
                in 1975 - 15,9 million tons
                in 1980 - 29,4 million tons
                in 1985 - 45,6 million tons

                Do you even think that this is almost an exponent? What about meat?

                In 1970 - 165 thousand tons
                in 1975 - 515 thousand tons;
                in 1980 - 821 thousand tons;
                in 1985 - 857 thousand tons

                Where did you get the loot for it ?! Do Cuba, Vietnam and other mumba yumba? And they paid you gold ?! ))))))))))) You will not see this money in the budget, you can only judge it indirectly. for 20 years, Russia (as the successor of the SSEC) was written off about $ 140 billion !!! and it's only BIG.

                В 1979 (exactly in the heyday of sisialism) the year, Deputy Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR, Lenin and State Prize laureate, Academician Vladimir Kirillin, writes a letter to the country's leadership in which he states that the situation in the country is very dangerous: the USSR buys machine-building products 7,5 billion morethan sells abroad. And that's in 1979 prices! Now match it to your fabulous budget.
                For my part, I can only say from memory that at the time of "developed" Sisialism, such "money" as bonds, the cost of which and the colors (just like in the film "Kin-dza-dza") were different))) without flowers, the purchasing power (in "Birch") was in 4 times higher than others. And why ? (drum roll) And because they were intended for those who worked in a pagan cap. country))) All others, with blue (socialist country) or yellow (mumba-yumba) 1: 1, if my memory serves me right.
                Personally, I do not respect the current tsar very much, but rather the other way around, but the only thing that can be credited to him is that he did not return the collective farms with state farms and, as a result, the RF at least provides itself with a zhranka. But this is most likely due only to the fact that the population has declined by more than 100 million consumers in comparison with the SS.
                1. Pete mitchell
                  Pete mitchell 1 December 2019 01: 43
                  +4
                  Quote: UserGun
                  such "money" as bonds, the cost of which and .... the purchasing power (in "Birch") was 4 times higher

                  Just to "correct the curve": bonuses were paid mainly to sailors, so as not to pay the entire salary in live currency. They sold in Albatross stores and their purchasing power was allegedly 1: 1. Real course with hands - 1: 4 approx.
                  In "Berezki" the so-called "checks", for the same reasons, the State paid with working abroad, not sailors. How many people were transplanted for checks - one obkhss knows. And in the Birch and Albatross, the choice was richer and laportic.
                  Everything is as always: at the expense of its own - the State saved real currency
                  1. Serg65
                    Serg65 2 December 2019 08: 20
                    +2
                    hi Приветствуем!
                    Quote: Pete Mitchell
                    bonuses were paid mainly to sailors,

                    Quite right, bonuses to sailors from the size of 12-24% of the salary, and to specialists working abroad by checks!
                    Quote: Pete Mitchell
                    The real course with the hands is 1: 4 approximately.

                    I am wildly sorry, but the real course was 1:10 ..... sometimes 1:14.
                    Quote: Pete Mitchell
                    Birch and Albatross choice was richer and less amortized.

                    Jeans "Mantana" -8,5 foreign exchange rubles yes
                    1. Pete mitchell
                      Pete mitchell 2 December 2019 10: 41
                      +2
                      hi good morning.
                      Quote: Serg65
                      I am wildly sorry, but the real course was 1:10 ..... sometimes 1:14.

                      Probably 1:10 with hands closer to reality, a sinner forgot. Father received both of them, but we strictly kept our children away from any actions with the currency, there were too many sad examples - the office did not sleep ...
                2. WIKI
                  WIKI 1 December 2019 12: 14
                  +2
                  The USSR imported food wheat, and produced real bread, without improvers and baking powder. What is not there now. Mainly produced feed grain for livestock feed. Russia now imports grain, although it sells 40 million tons each.
                  Where did you get the loot?
                  USSR exports 1986 68 billion rubles, import 62. Probably from here.
                  But this is most likely due only to the fact that the population has declined by more than 100 million consumers in comparison with the SS.
                  Yes, it seems nothing has decreased significantly. The population of the RSFSR is 147 million people. (000) 000 1989 2019 146 people
              2. Vadim237
                Vadim237 1 December 2019 01: 50
                +2
                You probably forgot that this 6% was the currency from the sale of oil in the budget - the USSR in its export peak in 1986 amounted to 74 billion dollars, the rate is 0.60, and imports were 68 billion dollars - these 6% played a significant role for the economy of the USSR.
                1. WIKI
                  WIKI 1 December 2019 11: 20
                  +1
                  You cannot work in trade. The dollar exchange rate since 1986 is $ 0,75. Considering also electricity, this is 32,3 billion rubles. It turns out 43 billion. $.
                  And the essential role was ultimately played by the assiduity of some comrades.
                  1. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 1 December 2019 15: 23
                    +1
                    Yes, it doesn’t matter what course it is - the result is the same country earned a little more than nichrome.
      2. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 30 November 2019 20: 33
        -3
        [quote = Svarog] The price of oil has changed .. and it became clear to many that as we lived off the sale of hydrocarbons, we still live, but the price fell and it became more difficult to live .. There is no money, but you stay there .. [/ quot A why did the oil price fall? Obviously, this is Ukraine, Sevastopol-Crimea - Russia, Donbass. This is the main reason. And Russia continued to lie with her legs apart in front of America, and more "Dress better" began to b .. Look at the root! Svarog, not the horn!
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 November 2019 17: 19
      -1
      Ironically, the 2020 strategy was covered in the same 2008th when it was accepted - the global economic crisis ensued, then we have one more effect at the beginning of 2014, and today it is growing the economy to 2,2% per year.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 30 November 2019 17: 37
        +5
        Quote: Vadim237
        Ironically, the 2020 strategy was covered in the same 2008th when it was accepted - the global economic crisis ensued, then we have one more effect at the beginning of 2014, and today it is growing the economy to 2,2% per year.

        Here is the misfortune ... everything hinders a bad dancer ... and it’s okay. But it hinders, leave ... well, I couldn’t .. so, then I sucked that ..
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 30 November 2019 18: 05
          -8
          Quote: Svarog
          something bothers a bad dancer ...

          That's for sure )))

          "Svarog", of you a dancer - like a ballerina of me)))
          1. LON
            LON 30 November 2019 18: 13
            -3
            Eka carries you. The truth stuck you. Many-faced you are our Janus.
            1. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 30 November 2019 21: 43
              +4
              Quote: LON
              The truth stuck you. Many-faced you are our Janus.

              On your ava movement pattern of pubic friends?
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 30 November 2019 22: 02
                -2
                Quote: Ruslan67
                Quote: LON
                The truth stuck you. Many-faced you are our Janus.

                On your ava movement pattern of pubic friends?

                Ruslan, score it. You can see the bird by litter - this is exactly the case request
              2. LON
                LON 3 December 2019 23: 08
                +1
                Your sophistication in verbiage, as a sign of a distant mind.
          2. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 30 November 2019 18: 45
            +16
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            like a ballerina from me)))

            Cut me wings yes But I want to see it wassat
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 1 December 2019 02: 05
          0
          In this situation, a naga dancer with an open fracture can’t walk normally, you can’t go to the macroeconomics at all, at least put someone in the government - the price will not appear in the country as it was in the region of 60-70 per barrel so and it will remain as the global economy slowed down to 3% and all new high-tech industries will remain open that will be opened in Russia and will have payback periods of 7 or more years, and some, like the production of civilian mobile microprocessors in general, will not be able to pay off due to the narrow market and the crowded external in the same vein. Say thank you that the SH and the defense industry, the nuclear industry and Russian Railways have substantially raised since 2007.
  3. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 30 November 2019 16: 34
    +5
    Develop and plan based on what you have and what you do yourself.
    How can something be analyzed and developed if the state has reserved only the collection of taxes, fines and licenses (and even not all).
    What and how can one plan if increased government revenues are used to raise salaries for civil servants, and not to develop the social sphere and raise the living standards of the poor. And instead of helping single mothers, they simply take the children and look for their guardians. They provide financial assistance to the guardians. Is this also a strategy led by the HSE?
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 30 November 2019 16: 41
      +3
      Quote: Ruswolf
      What and how can one plan if increased government revenues are used to raise salaries for civil servants, and not to develop the social sphere and raise the living standards of the poor. And instead of helping single mothers, they simply take the children and look for their guardians. They provide financial assistance to the guardians. Is this also a strategy led by the HSE?

      The strategy is simple .. Brzezinski has long voiced it .. You will not find justice and understanding in the HSE .. these work for the IMF and other American organizations ..
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 30 November 2019 16: 53
        +1
        Quote: Svarog
        You will not find justice and understanding at the HSE ..

        Volodya, why look for them there? Nowhere else? Or did the training manual end? laughing

        Quote: Svarog
        The strategy is simple ..

        Well, if it's "simple" - in your own words, Vova ... come on, brother, cut the uterus of the truth ... well? wink

        Svarog .. you must be able to troll. And you, my friend, are a humbly artisan. Well, it is not given to you. God did not give talent. Humble yourself request
      2. Ruswolf
        Ruswolf 30 November 2019 17: 02
        +5
        I believe that in Russia there is no strategy whatsoever! Everyone lives on a hunch. And the concept of development can be just as easily replaced by the concept of CURVING and TURNING.
        Specialists are involved in the strategy. Today, we have changed all profile specialists to managers at all levels of government, both in the regions and in the government.
        Pike and Cat
        The trouble is, if the cobbler starts the cakes,
        And boots stitch pastry:
        And it will not work well,
        Yes, and noted a hundredfold, ..... I.A.Krylov "
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 30 November 2019 17: 09
          +1
          Quote: Ruswolf
          I believe that in Russia there is no strategy whatsoever! Everyone lives on a hunch. And the concept of development can be just as easily replaced by the concept of CURVING and TURNING.

          And there is..
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 30 November 2019 17: 49
            -1
            Quote: Svarog
            The strategy is simple ..

            Volodya, where is the "strategy"?

            You, buddy, buddy ...

            Quote: Svarog
            And there is..

            Can not argue with that request
        2. Mouse
          Mouse 30 November 2019 23: 26
          +4
          Quote: Ruswolf
          The trouble is, if the cobbler starts the cakes,
          And boots stitch pastry:
          And it will not work well,
          Yes, and noted a hundredfold, ..... I.A.Krylov "

          "Every cook can run the state" !!! wassat
      3. Fraracol_2
        Fraracol_2 30 November 2019 20: 08
        -7
        HSE has nothing to do with it. They only developed questions for those who so ineptly carried out. And under the current general state policy, this was impossible in principle.
  4. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 30 November 2019 16: 57
    +4
    No development strategies will help if a person does not want to help himself. If I needed to buy (spend) something, then I have to limit myself to something. Reasonably spend and reasonably purchase. And work more. And do not sit on the TV. Count on the state is an empty matter. Pension accrued and okay. The rest, I’ll earn it myself .... And in the lieutenant years with the EBN drunkard and sausages I was glad .-) As I recall, the nineties, my hair stand on end. Salaries of 7 months were not paid. Crime in jeeps drove around the city with AKM. The fleet is in poverty and drunkenness. The army is there .. We are the people of tact that are used to everything, “blame the king,”
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 30 November 2019 17: 20
      +7
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Count on the state is an empty matter. Pension accrued and okay. The rest, I’ll earn it myself ....

      Well, you know this myself, but! It infuriates when all kinds of people, sovereign people allow themselves statements like the notorious macaroni and the like. And yes, I’m used to rely only on myself.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 30 November 2019 17: 51
        +3
        Phil 77, totally with you, I agree! And you look who now, sovereign servants ,,? They are from my mother’s skirt, in high school. From the university to the civil service. They did not serve in the army. Hence the “subtle psyche” and the gentleman’s squeeze .. Yes, they cannot demand anything from subordinates. But, in “high fashion”, they understand, well .. Watches, ties, suits .. Not men but women! These are (half) the country is ruled by .-) And they have depression from the mat, you know ...-)) And they wear shoulder straps on their thin shoulders, they love it .. They show off .. But they didn’t learn to sew them to the uniform. Where should these sovereign servants be? .. They also ran from the military commissar, in their youth ..
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 30 November 2019 17: 59
          +7
          Andrey Nikolaevich! I won't touch the appearance in principle. But ... In my opinion, these people took an example from Mr. iPhone, remember his phrase: "There is no money, but you are holding on"? That's it! / by the way, I don’t remember he was then president or prime minister? /, then what to say about his subordinates? We are in parallel dimensions.
          1. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich 30 November 2019 18: 27
            +2
            Exactly! With all due respect to Dmitry Anatolyevich .. Smart, educated, polite person. But .. lead is not his job. I read the memoirs of Count Ignatiev .. there is such a thing there .. He was ordered to appoint a new platoon commander, guards. The regiment asks Ignatieff why exactly the person he indicated. Ignatiev replied, “A cultured, polite and well-mannered officer,” the regiment commander said: “You are my count, my dear and well-educated, platoons! Need a commander! ,,
    2. WIKI
      WIKI 30 November 2019 18: 35
      +5
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      We are the people of tact that we are accustomed to everything, to blame the king,
      And what to blame him. He does everything right. In order for some to eat bread with caviar, others must definitely be given bread with sausages. The law of conservation of power.
    3. WIKI
      WIKI 30 November 2019 18: 48
      +6
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      We are the people of tact that we are accustomed to everything, to blame the king,
      Yes, they demand something, they can’t do anything, from subordinates. But, in high fashion, they understand, well .. Watches, ties, suits .. Not men, but women! These are (half) the country is ruled .-)
      You remind me of Mikhalkov in a situation where he could not clearly answer the question: "Who is to blame for the fact that there are 20 million poor in the country?" So who is to blame for such a half of the leaders. Probably the second half. And who is in charge of these halves?
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 30 November 2019 23: 14
        +1
        ,, probably the second half ,, Theoretically, you're right. What we have chosen, we have .. And the fact that the drunkard EBN could not get out of the plane, we are also to blame. This is a philosophical question.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 1 December 2019 02: 09
        -2
        In the 2000th, the poor in Russia were 50 million.
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 30 November 2019 17: 06
    +7
    Not everything is so bad but not so good!
    Truth, as always, lurked somewhere, hid in a corner.
    Life does not become easier, but there is no disaster, but for now or not at all, it depends on us all!
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 30 November 2019 17: 10
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      Not everything is so bad but not so good!

      You look at the dynamics ... I would agree with you, there are always ups and downs, obstacles that need to be overcome .. But what has been done in fact, except for tightening the screws for ordinary citizens?
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 30 November 2019 17: 40
        -1
        Quote: Svarog
        What has been done in fact, except for tightening the screws for ordinary citizens?

        crying crying crying
        1. edmed
          edmed 30 November 2019 18: 50
          +1
          Quote: Golovan Jack

          They will come for you, only there will be nobody to save. Fat Cats and fat Golovanov.
          1. Mouse
            Mouse 30 November 2019 23: 37
            +5
            Lord ... I won’t even ask about mice .... definitely Khan ... crying
            1. Masha
              Masha 30 November 2019 23: 53
              +7
              pichalka ..... crying discrimination!!!! mice as a class !!! wassat
            2. WILL
              WILL 1 December 2019 04: 00
              +5
              Quote: edmed
              Quote: Golovan Jack

              They will come for you, only there will be nobody to save. Fat Cats and fat Golovanov.

              Quote: Mouse
              Lord ... I won’t even ask about mice .... definitely Khan ... crying

              Quote: Masha
              pichalka ..... crying discrimination!!!! mice as a class !!! wassat

              And let me click you from the photocamera! (C) laughing yes wink M / F Vacation in Prostokvashino!
              1. Masha
                Masha 1 December 2019 06: 32
                +7
                for memory ??????
                a minute, I’ll fix my hair .....

                love
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 30 November 2019 18: 35
        +6
        Quote: Svarog
        You look at the dynamics ...

        There, here, back in general ... out of the ordinary, "retirement joy", and everything else - smoothly becomes more difficult and expensive to live, for a simple hard worker, the poor, pensioners ... not critical, otherwise a social explosion may occur, but the rich this seems out of place! They are doing well.
        The main question again and as always - What to do? -
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 30 November 2019 18: 38
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          The main question again and as always - What to do? -

          And what remains to be done .. vote to go all for the socialists ... and control the vote .. These leaders have already been bullied ..
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 30 November 2019 18: 48
            +6
            Quote: Svarog
            And what remains to be done .. vote to go all for the socialists ... and control the vote .. These leaders have already been bullied ..

            What are they all there ... equally alien / alien to US! even though they go under different labels, banners ... and strangers, not them, do not go there.
            OUR, in fact, goals and objectives, still need to generate !!! and not like that, not those who will be invented from above, created and let down! The task is not a single task, but nobody will do this for us!
          2. Squelcher
            Squelcher 30 November 2019 19: 25
            +8
            What kind of socialists? Communist Party funded by 70 percent of the budget?
    2. UserGun
      UserGun 30 November 2019 17: 15
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      Life does not become easier, but there is no disaster, but for now or not at all, it depends on us all!


      Yes!

      Here you are not here.

      We can always be able to.

      We have one course - the right one.

      laughing laughing laughing laughing
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 30 November 2019 18: 36
        +2
        Quote: UserGun
        We have one course - the right one.

        And who is ... invented?
        1. UserGun
          UserGun 30 November 2019 20: 36
          +1
          Yes there was such Chernomyrdin. I can still add)))

          But we will do pension reform. There is where to roam.

          All this is so straightforward and perpendicular that I feel unpleasant.

          As someone said, appetite comes in times of trouble.

          We are still trying to milk those who are already lying.

          Well, who can replace me? I’ll kill right away ... Sorry.

          I won’t say much, otherwise I’ll say something again.

          We continue to do what we have already done a lot.

          Right or wrong is a philosophical question.

          I would not link these issues so perpendicularly.

          You think that I’m far away simple. It’s far from easy for me!

          The deputies all spoke out so that I would go. He was elected, more precisely.

          Actually, there are few successes. But the main thing: there is a government.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 1 December 2019 09: 10
            0
            If / when someone has chosen something, the other may simply DO NOT TAKE, DO NOT FOLLOW, and indeed send naf. This often happens.
  6. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 30 November 2019 17: 27
    +9
    As soon as I read the names of the authors of the program - = Among the authors of "Strategy 2020" are German Gref, Eugene Yasin, Oleg Vyugin, Anne Kruger (former deputy head of the IMF), Marek Dombrowski (Polish economist), Gerard Roland (American University of Berkeley), etc. . = it immediately became clear - the program should not have been executed. There is nothing more to talk about.
  7. Alexga
    Alexga 30 November 2019 17: 31
    +4
    The concept was developed by hundreds of experts in the field of economics under the guidance of HSE representatives ...... Among the authors of Strategy 2020 are German Gref, Evgeny Yasin, Oleg Vyugin, Ann Krueger (former IMF deputy head), Marek Dombrowski (Polish economist), Gerard Roland (American University of Berkeley) and others.
    .
    You don’t even have to say anything!
  8. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 30 November 2019 18: 06
    +3
    Struck by the foresight of a young man about the strategy of 2050.
    Why not? Just think, some other five terms - during this time, the donkey, the emir, and many others who did not live to retire will die.
    Some remembered the promises of the General Secretaries of the USSR. It's true. There were promises: both communism in 1980, and a separate apartment by 2000 ... And what did they promise?
     The possibility of free education, treatment, utilization of utilities was declared. The party also promised a reduction in prices and the abolition of taxes on the population. Catering for 10-15 years should supplant food at home, which will free up women’s time, and by 1980, enterprises should provide their employees with free meals. At the expense of the society, it was planned to keep children in kindergartens for free, use public transport, and material support for all disabled people.

    Naively, some will say ... Have you had any free sports sections? And at home, technical creativity? There were also conditional (for the price) school lunches. There were dining rooms with a very good selection of dishes. Five-copeck passage in a trolleybus and subway, 6 kopecks - a bus and 3 kopecks - a tram. KW / h for 2 kopecks ... It was not easy, but for all the time I have never heard from senior people that some troubles were to blame for our troubles, some dollars, the withdrawal of capital and other rubbish. And most importantly - there was no such massive plunder of state funds (the "tower" was bright and definite).
    And there were numbers and documents that did not allow just to chat from the stands ... Now, then, everything is much better and more interesting. The powers that be, just living on budget money, no longer hide their disregard for the needs of the people: that Shies, that Tulun, that Yekaterinburg ... Moreover, they began to rush at their voters, accusing them of "dislike" for the authorities ...
    hi
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 30 November 2019 18: 37
      0
      That you are attached to Shies. In 1969, a landfill of toxic industrial and medical waste Krasny Bor was opened 15 km from Leningrad (and not in the dense taiga). The runoff went to the Neva, which feeds the water of the five millionth city. That was such a concern for the needs of the people. And no protests: in those days, for protests, either cut the forest in Mordovia, or in a closed durbolnichka.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 1 December 2019 02: 23
      -1
      Probably because then there was a planned economy - and generally it was forbidden to discuss the economy of the USSR on television in newspaper articles and magazines, robbery was different in the USSR - production for the sake of help to 120 countries of the world that in fact brought nothing to the country except work at their own expense - for people, people worked, they were paid an equalizer, half of the raw materials for equipment, machine materials, rogue people went to the country - hence the shortage of everything since the 60s - only 40 countries from more than 160 paid the currency from the USSR, the rest paid with loyalty and coconut barter.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 1 December 2019 15: 25
        +1
        Take an interest in how much the USSR sold civilian planes for currency — for the entire period of its existence.
  9. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 30 November 2019 18: 10
    +5
    ... Sveta from Ivanovo, who began to "dress better".

    ".... I have a head, and I eat in it ..." (c)
    ...Happy people!
    1. Masha
      Masha 1 December 2019 00: 52
      +6
      Only eat? Should I wear a hat? wassat
      1. The Siberian barber
        The Siberian barber 1 December 2019 09: 21
        +3
        Quote: Masha
        Only eat? Should I wear a hat? wassat

        Well, if "more BEST", then without it, no way)))
  10. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 30 November 2019 18: 33
    +10
    ": an increase in labor productivity by 40%, an increase in life expectancy by 2,5 years,"
    In places, yes. My productivity growth, for example, has grown even by 70%, probably with the advent of portable plasma cutting machines in production. Again, capitalist production. Compared to gas cutting equipment.
    That's about life expectancy ... Judging by an objective assessment of the state of health ... Most likely, they will carry me forward from the shop floor. As one old acquaintance of my acquaintance says. And I have no reason to disagree with him. drinks
    1. Masha
      Masha 1 December 2019 00: 56
      +8
      Gas cutter, we will survive all! And pessimism set aside!
      Will live! love
  11. Overlock
    Overlock 30 November 2019 18: 59
    +3
    how the strategy is implemented can be found by reading the newspapers of past years. One of them.

    Words, words, where is your sweetness ...
  12. Livonetc
    Livonetc 30 November 2019 19: 23
    +1
    With clothing and food really improved.
    With medicine, at least not yet collapsed.
    Not so sad.
    There is a development.
    And the fact that the corresponding program has not been completed is a fact.
    Yes, and from the beginning it was clear that these were delusional fabrications of court lysooblyudov.
    Those that are closest to the coveted pool ..
    It should be noted that such a situation is not an exception, but rather an ancient tradition of our country.
    So it was and is.
    What will happen next?
    In the foreseeable future without much change.
  13. Lexus
    Lexus 30 November 2019 22: 10
    +5
    Carrot 2020 became a carrot-2030. The donkey, of course, was very thin. Will it survive?
  14. BastaKarapuzik And
    BastaKarapuzik And 26 January 2020 01: 15
    0
    Did not work out? But in general, it should have turned out, taking into account all the circumstances? This is annoying, bias + bias, emphasis on some facts, suppression of others = propaganda.