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Turkish politician did not rule out a new attempt at a coup due to the purchase of C-400

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Turkish politician did not rule out a new attempt at a coup due to the purchase of C-400

A well-known politician in Turkey, academician of the University of Gazi, a representative of the top party of the National Movement, a former deputy prime minister (1999-2002) of the Turkish government, Devlet Bahceli commented on Turkey’s purchase of S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems and their recent tests at one of the military bases near Ankara.


According to Bahceli, he personally understands the American opposition to the purchase and deployment of C-400. Bahceli says that for the United States, the goal is to completely subjugate Turkey to itself, gain total control over the country.

Bahceli:

For us, C-400 is an aspect of national security. If the United States really understands our problems and takes into account our interests, then we should only support the purchase of reliable air defense systems. But they continue to criticize. And they completely lost their measure and shame when they tell us that Turkey should refuse to deploy these complexes.

According to Bahceli, in such a situation, the United States will do everything to try to achieve a result convenient for them. At the same time, the Turkish politician made it clear that the United States could make a new attempt to change the government.

According to Devlet Bahceli, due to Ankara’s position, including the purchase of C-400, the United States may try to use the fifth column inside Turkey again.

Bahceli quotes the Turkish edition of Magazin Haber Ajansi:

They pulled us out of the F-35 program, as if forgetting that we paid them for it. They use their F-35 as a pressure lever. And at our own expense. The British did something similar at the beginning of the last century. But they should not think that we can endlessly threaten and force us to abandon our interests, to silence.

After that, a Turkish politician criticized the French president, calling Macron "complete disappointment." Devlet Bahceli said that France, whose troops were in the north of Syria, has become the country that protested more than others against Operation Source of Peace. According to Bahceli, this is at a time when France is a part of NATO along with Turkey and, in theory, should respect Turkish interests as the interests of an ally.


On the right hand from Erdogan - Bahceli


Turkish politician:

If Macron declared "the death of NATO's brain," then let him be bold to the end and say, "that's it, we're leaving!" And if not, then let it be nice to maintain honest relations with NATO partners. We want honesty.
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  1. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 29 November 2019 14: 25
    0
    And who dares to water the palace of Erdogan from the turntable and aircraft under the umbrella of S-400?))
    1. Honest Citizen
      Honest Citizen 29 November 2019 14: 48
      +5
      Why water from a turntable? Shot by a sniper (Kennedy), poisoning (Andropov), Maidan (Georgia, Ukraine, Egypt), supporting democracy (Syria) - there are many other ways.
      1. cost
        cost 29 November 2019 15: 11
        +11
        Well, about the poisoning of Andropov, an obvious bust. You didn’t stand by the bed and did not hold a candle to declare so confidently
      2. Prisoner
        Prisoner 29 November 2019 17: 53
        +2
        Erdogan Maidan not ride. Swings away with a fly.
        1. GibSoN
          GibSoN 29 November 2019 19: 49
          -1
          Erdogan Maidan not ride. Swings away with a fly.
          What kind of people is such a king ... Oh .. And why can they not agree with the PKK in any way .. Apparently they didn’t really study at school. For any action, there is opposition. Why be surprised? If he is such a horse, why is he surprised when other horsemen are in the country?
      3. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 30 November 2019 09: 29
        0
        Quote: Honest Citizen
        Why water from a turntable? Shot by a sniper (Kennedy), poisoning (Andropov), Maidan (Georgia, Ukraine, Egypt), supporting democracy (Syria) - there are many other ways.

        About Andropov in more detail, please, and with links to sources
    2. GibSoN
      GibSoN 29 November 2019 19: 48
      -2
      And who dares to water the palace of Erdogan from the turntable and aircraft under the umbrella of S-400?))
      And, well, that is, if a good part of the population does not seem to approve and wishes him "all the best" is no longer agrument)) Well then, ok.
  2. Invoce
    Invoce 29 November 2019 14: 27
    +5
    Turkish politician did not rule out a new attempt at a coup due to the purchase of C-400

    And he is right! Where the tail of the mattresses is pressed, they channel billions to support democracy and prepare a coup d'etat
    1. kot423
      kot423 29 November 2019 14: 56
      0
      Nothing happens without exceptions. North Korea - the mattresses were swallowed and pretended to be that way
      1. Kurare
        Kurare 29 November 2019 15: 07
        +3
        Quote: kot423
        North Korea - the mattresses were swallowed and pretended to be that way

        All, without exception, coups and coup attempts were coordinated and funded through the US embassies in the country. They do not even have diplomatic relations with North Korea, and therefore no focal point.
    2. orionvitt
      orionvitt 29 November 2019 15: 17
      -2
      US may try to re-engage fifth column inside Turkey
      Here are just Erdogan, not Yakunovich. In which case, if anyone there raises his head, he will clean this fifth column, with all his "janissary" determination. He wanted to spit on the opinion of the West.
  3. private person
    private person 29 November 2019 14: 28
    -4
    So I didn’t understand, the article earlier published narrated that the S-400 did not fully satisfy the Turks during the tests, so to speak.
    1. askort154
      askort154 29 November 2019 14: 34
      +2
      private person...So I didn’t understand, an article earlier published narrated that the S-400 did not fully satisfy the Turks during the tests, so to speak

      Nowadays, they trust one article - do not respect yourself.
      We must constantly “filter” through other sources. hi
    2. MoJloT
      MoJloT 29 November 2019 14: 38
      +1
      Here, only one thing is clear so far, that nothing is clear. Maybe the United States will support freedom, democracy in Turkey once again, or maybe this is a cunning plan for the United States to get C400.
  4. Altai72
    Altai72 29 November 2019 14: 35
    0
    Bahcheli was the main support for Erdogan within the country at the time of the putsch. Earlier, the views of Bahceli and Erdogan on foreign policy did not coincide at all. At the moment, the forces of Bahceli are on the side of Erdogan, and these are not some "guards of the Islamic revolution", but about 10 million Bozkurt (Gray Wolves).
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 29 November 2019 22: 57
      +2
      Are Bahcheli "Gray Wolves"?
      1. Altai72
        Altai72 29 November 2019 23: 59
        0
        Yes, he is the leader of the National Movement Party.
  5. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 29 November 2019 14: 38
    +2
    And what did they expect by contacting NATO? They consider Turkey only as a convenient springboard, they do not care about the country itself and the opinion of their leaders.

    In NATO, everyone is equal, but some are more equal.
    1. ltc35
      ltc35 29 November 2019 16: 17
      +1
      Not some, but one NATO member is the most even. The rest only line up!
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 29 November 2019 16: 19
        +2
        That's just it. Even boorish money is extorted from the "members" into the budget, and they themselves are cut.
        1. ltc35
          ltc35 29 November 2019 16: 27
          0
          Trim to become smoother. But equality there only in the Charter was originally.
  6. Altai72
    Altai72 29 November 2019 14: 40
    0
    Turkey will test its first hybrid rocket engine tomorrow.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 29 November 2019 14: 51
    +1
    Turkish politician did not rule out a new attempt at a coup due to the purchase of C-400

    C'mon, there, already, the minke whales to the Sultan have a large list of complaints! And some others.
    so watch, not click with your beak!
  8. Shahno
    Shahno 29 November 2019 14: 53
    +1
    Quote: Honest Citizen
    Why water from a turntable? Shot by a sniper (Kennedy), poisoning (Andropov), Maidan (Georgia, Ukraine, Egypt), supporting democracy (Syria) - there are many other ways.

    Not .. Weak things. Hypotheses, but not evidence.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 29 November 2019 18: 58
      +2
      Quote: Shahno
      Quote: Honest Citizen
      Why water from a turntable? Shot by a sniper (Kennedy), poisoning (Andropov), Maidan (Georgia, Ukraine, Egypt), supporting democracy (Syria) - there are many other ways.

      Not .. Weak things. Hypotheses, but not evidence.

      Andropov was generally a kidney. He was offered to undergo treatment in West Germany - he refused in principle. So I would live longer. But Gorbachev with Shevarnadze in Berlin Charite rushed almost in the 91st.
  9. askort154
    askort154 29 November 2019 14: 54
    +2
    According to Devlet Bahceli, due to Ankara’s position, including the purchase of C-400, the United States may try to use the fifth column inside Turkey again.


    Until they give Gilen, Erdogan will not surrender. And he still has trump cards -
    - kick out the US base,
    - get out of NATO.
    A military coup will no longer work out now, he has imprisoned all the "Gilenites".
    But it is difficult to dodge the "color" revolutions. This is where the Anglo-Saxons do well.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 29 November 2019 23: 03
      +2
      "he planted all the" Gilenites "////
      -----
      He landed or fired half of the Air Force.
      And the S-400 was bought not against external enemies, but to protect it
      residences from their own "underreported" pilots,
      who might try to avenge their comrades.
      1. Liam
        Liam 29 November 2019 23: 06
        0
        In vain, he is so confident in his air defense)
  10. Alien From
    Alien From 29 November 2019 15: 01
    +1
    Turks and honesty are not compatible .....!
  11. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 29 November 2019 15: 04
    +3
    For any, mattresses should somehow react, because after the Turkish demarche with the purchase of the S-400 and the refusal to send the Turkish military to "protect" the Baltic states within NATO, they cannot leave their "ally" unpunished because many countries look at "hegemon" is pending. So in front of the mattresses was drawn not a simple fork in terms of impact - "shortage" is not enough, because others may follow Turkey's example, and "overkill" will be too much, because Turkey can leave NATO altogether, cover their bases on its territory and make it difficult for their ships to pass through the Bosphorus. So Bahcheli correctly assesses the situation, indicating that the ideal option for mattresses is to organize Erdogan's "withdrawal" from the political arena, which they will almost certainly do.
  12. Rostislav Bely
    Rostislav Bely 29 November 2019 15: 17
    -4
    There will be no coup ...
  13. Starper-xnumx
    Starper-xnumx 29 November 2019 15: 18
    0
    The United States may make a new attempt at a change of power.

    Erdogan is now under the protection of the Russian special services .. We will take care of him, this "hammer driving nails into the NATO coffin" ..
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 29 November 2019 23: 15
      +1
      Who he drives nails into is not very clear.
      Turkey restored the military-industrial complex of Ukraine. Machine tools, electronics,
      missile guidance systems - from Turkey. This is the technology of the countries.
      NATO, well mastered by Turkish industry.
      1. Starper-xnumx
        Starper-xnumx 30 November 2019 09: 02
        -1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Who he drives nails into is not very clear.

        Well, let's say the world order is the USA-England-Israel .. So is that clear?
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Turkey restored the military-industrial complex of Ukraine. Machine tools, electronics,
        missile guidance systems - from Turkey. This is the technology of the countries.
        NATO perfectly mastered by Turkish industry

        This is what you think in Israel, but we have other plans in Russia .. hi
      2. Rzzz
        Rzzz 30 November 2019 22: 52
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Machine tools, electronics,

        Not only restored, but subjugated to the extent that restored. New machines are good when in good condition. And as soon as it broke down and there is no necessary spare part - this is a bunch of scrap metal. Where are the parts? That's right, from the manufacturer.
  14. Shahno
    Shahno 29 November 2019 15: 26
    0
    Quote: orionvitt
    US may try to re-engage fifth column inside Turkey
    Here are just Erdogan, not Yakunovich. In which case, if anyone there raises his head, he will clean this fifth column, with all his "janissary" determination. He wanted to spit on the opinion of the West.

    Half kind of thought. And the second half of the pluses to collect?
    Of course,
    Erdogan has leadership qualities.
    Spit on the opinion of those who have weight, is harmful to health.
  15. demo
    demo 29 November 2019 17: 01
    -1
    If Macron announced the "death of NATO's brain", then let him be brave to the end and say: "that's it, we're leaving!"
    It reminded me something else - "I'm tired. I'm leaving."
    Most likely this will be the case with Macron.
    Another fruit is green and it needs to ripen.
  16. A.K.
    A.K. 29 November 2019 17: 10
    -1
    Erdogan made his choice back in 2015 (if I'm not mistaken) when an agreement was signed on the construction of the Turkish stream. But he thought that you could sit on two chairs in Russian and American (something similar to Yanukovych). But the Americans didn’t succeed, it was very, very angry as Turkey became a gas hub and gained a certain influence on southern Europe and itself became energy independent of it. And the Americans just really needed this European market, because in America there is a boom in shale gas and someone needs to boil it. And then such a southern stream was stopped and then the Turks with their own flow about how. Well, respectively, they decided to down with Erdogan (that is, it’s time to bring democracy into existence, but it has become a little less there), and we saved Erdoganushka since we were already observing the democratizers. Well, here Erdogan completely regained his sight and decided to seek protection from democracy in Russia in the form of a triumph with 400 (anti-democratizer). That's the truth.
  17. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 29 November 2019 17: 16
    +1
    Erdogan, unlike Macron, is a politician.
    He is not opposed to partners in NATO and the United States as well. It shows that being on opposite sides of the barricades (NATO - Russia), it is possible to maintain business and good neighborly relations. And it also shows by deed that cooperation is always more productive and useful.
    And the relationship with the United States is based only on the market - they bought what they need not from them. That is the whole problem. And to make a coup in Turkey because of this does not make sense. Since you can lose Turkey as a strong partner in the Middle East.
  18. for
    for 29 November 2019 18: 16
    -2
    Quote: Alien From
    Turks and honesty are not compatible .....!

    It is better to have an enemy of the United States than a friend of Turkey.
  19. Berkut24
    Berkut24 29 November 2019 20: 20
    0
    Erdogan cleaned the security forces be healthy. And our SVR, as life has shown, knows even more of Erdogan’s personal guard to warn.
  20. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 30 November 2019 12: 02
    0
    To put pressure on mattresses on the Turks, they want, mattress covers full control over their passage, NATO ships through the Dardanelles and take the exit from the Black Sea to the Mediterranean, even though Russia is cut off from the exit not only to Syria, but also further, therefore the Turks try to put sticks in wheels and more than one coup d'etat is possible, all for the sake of hegemonic power and complete dominance in the world, and they surround Russia for a reason and their bases are also stuck around, paper hegemons! am
  21. iouris
    iouris 30 November 2019 15: 33
    0
    Therefore, Erdogan and bought the S-400. Therefore, they were sold to him.