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Zelensky completely deprived the Ukrainian army of ensigns and foremen

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Zelensky completely deprived the Ukrainian army of ensigns and foremen

Ukraine finally said goodbye to ensigns. The new law providing for the reform of military ranks was signed by President Vladimir Zelensky. This is stated on the website of the head of the Ukrainian state.


In Ukraine, a law comes into force abolishing the ranks and names of military units on the model of the Soviet army and introducing a rank system on the model of NATO armies. According to the Zelensky Law, the military ranks of the ensign, warrant officer, senior ensign and foreman are abolished in the armed forces of Ukraine. Instead, they established the ranks of head sergeant-master, foreman, senior foreman and chief foreman.

Also from this day in the APU there will no longer be "regiments", which are all renamed into brigades.

This law was approved by the Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada in mid-October of this year as part of the military doctrine of Ukraine adopted in the 2015 year, which requires the 2020 year to ensure "full compatibility" of the APU with the armies of NATO countries.

In the near future, Zelensky should receive the second law on the reform of the military ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine regarding the generals. According to him, the existing ranks of the army general and colonel general are canceled. Instead of Colonel-General, the title "general" is introduced, it also becomes the oldest military rank in the Armed Forces. Also introduced are the military ranks of the brigadier general and commander-admiral, which previously were not in the armed forces of Ukraine.
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  1. Cut Samshitov
    Cut Samshitov 29 November 2019 14: 15
    +41
    The most Ukrainian title - ensign, destroyed ... monster!
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 29 November 2019 14: 17
      +2
      So what do you want? KVN (Zelensky) vs KGB (Putin). Who studied what.
      1. Alex_You
        Alex_You 29 November 2019 14: 42
        +3
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        So what do you want? KVN (Zelensky) vs KGB (Putin). Who studied what.

        What are you talking about?
        1. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 29 November 2019 15: 17
          0
          Quote: Alex_You
          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          So what do you want? KVN (Zelensky) vs KGB (Putin). Who studied what.

          What are you talking about?

          I mean that whoever has learned what does what he does. There are no former.
          1. The black
            The black 29 November 2019 16: 12
            +7
            Standartenfuhrer APU, Hauptsturmfuhrer APU ....... is more suitable.
            1. Metallurg_2
              Metallurg_2 29 November 2019 20: 44
              0
              Reichsucrofuhrer.
              1. your1970
                your1970 30 November 2019 02: 25
                +1
                Well, you ... you just listen - as it sounds:
                "commander-admiral".... eeeeehhh !!!
                And the gait of an era of serious deeds and geographical discoveries is felt ....
                1. Metallurg_2
                  Metallurg_2 30 November 2019 17: 43
                  0
                  Comrade General, some kind of hoax seems to be minus us. Perhaps, of those who were affected by the renaming of ranks :)
      2. Stone
        Stone 29 November 2019 14: 45
        +8
        “The institute of ensigns, which amounted to 142 thousand people, was liquidated in the army,” assured the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia, Army General Nikolai Makarov. “We had 142 thousand warrant officers. As of December 1, 2009, not one was left. ” They returned only in 2013. During this period, the KGB (Putin) also played in KVN?
        1. Metallurg_2
          Metallurg_2 30 November 2019 17: 45
          -1
          No, during this period the master left the estate and left a manager for himself.
      3. cost
        cost 29 November 2019 14: 48
        +6
        An incentive was taken from the Ukrainian military. After all, to become an ensign - this was the dream of any Ukrainian. Ensign is not a title, it is a way of life! Previously, he served a year and went to the school of ensigns, that's all! Life is a success! And now? What perspective do they say here? It’s easier to unlearn a lieutenant than to become a sergeant.
        1. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich 29 November 2019 15: 06
          -2
          Rich, and don’t say ..-) Previously ,, ensignShCHyk ,, - for the collective farm fool it sounded proudly! And the whole village respected him! And if he is also the quartermaster, so in general, in the village council hung his portrait with the inscription- ,, pride sela ,, -)))
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 29 November 2019 15: 31
            +2
            What difference does it make, the main thing is at the warehouse. The photo with the inscription not just some ensign there, but a whole head sergeant will also hang proudly.
            1. Andrei Nikolaevich
              Andrei Nikolaevich 29 November 2019 15: 47
              0
              ,, and a whole headquarters foreman ,, That's right! And if also, at the warehouse, so generally, life was a success! This is not some kind of general to you, without a warehouse ..-)
              1. YOUR
                YOUR 1 December 2019 12: 42
                +2
                The main rank did not appear - foreman warehouse
                1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                  Andrei Nikolaevich 1 December 2019 13: 50
                  +1
                  ,, warehouse- foreman ,, still appears ... do not rush-)
            2. ltc35
              ltc35 29 November 2019 16: 24
              0
              Now, where the foreman, there is the headquarters! But the master foreman is not clear ... And if there is also the chief foreman, he is not from our galaxy at all ...
            3. 4ekist
              4ekist 29 November 2019 17: 01
              -1
              ".... We don't need a big salary, give me the key to a small warehouse."
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 November 2019 14: 51
      0
      Quote: Sawing Boxwood
      The most Ukrainian title - ensign, destroyed ... monster!

      Ensign, "piece", and the army stood on that.
      1. cost
        cost 29 November 2019 15: 00
        +1
        Here is another interesting point. Now it turns out that senior warrant officers, and warrant officers who were in the ranks of foremen and senior sergeants will be demoted in military ranks. Will be dissatisfied
        1. Alex_You
          Alex_You 29 November 2019 15: 37
          0
          Quote: Rich
          Here is another interesting point. Now it turns out that senior warrant officers, and warrant officers who were in the ranks of foremen and senior sergeants will be demoted in military ranks. Will be dissatisfied

          Why? Just renamed, decommunization-s. laughing
        2. PalBor
          PalBor 29 November 2019 18: 34
          +2
          Yah. When the blue berets and the 2 August holiday were taken from their airborne troops, they were also unhappy. Satisfied, satisfied, and went on to kill the Donetsk people.
    3. sniperino
      sniperino 29 November 2019 15: 12
      -2
      Quote: Cut Samshitov
      The most Ukrainian title - ensign, destroyed ... monster!
      Considering that the word "ensign" in the meaning of the flag is clearer for Ukrainians than in Russia, Zelensky can be hooked from this side. Here, before being accused of treason - a couple of stitches smile
    4. Starper-xnumx
      Starper-xnumx 29 November 2019 15: 22
      +3
      Quote: Cut Samshitov
      The most Ukrainian title - ensign, destroyed ... monster!

      Straight from the tongue removed .. good laughing What is not an ensign (especially in warehouses) is so mandatory with the Ukrainian surname .. (no offense)))
    5. DRM
      DRM 29 November 2019 23: 01
      +3
      There are no problems in Russia, Ukrainian ensigns do not give sleep))
  2. NEXUS
    NEXUS 29 November 2019 14: 17
    0
    Hmm, from a third-rate comedian commander in chief such as from the Papuan cannibal astronaut ISS.
    1. Zliy_mod
      Zliy_mod 29 November 2019 14: 21
      0
      Well, he is an outstanding comedian, the popularity of his projects in Russia and Ukraine is breaking all records, but he has not yet shown himself to be the commander in chief and I hope he will not.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 29 November 2019 14: 24
        +10
        Quote: Zliy_mod
        Well comedian he is outstanding

        He’s a third-rate comedian. And the one that breaks records in our time, such as the Comedy Club or Standup, the level of jokes speaks for itself. Either below the belt, or the level of unicellular ones, for stupidly neighing.
        So what about the outstanding is not necessary, yeah ...
        The outstanding comedians are Raikin, Nikulin, and so on ... in comparison with them, Zelia is a pubic louse.
        1. Zliy_mod
          Zliy_mod 29 November 2019 14: 32
          +3
          When full halls and full houses gather, then your statements
          Comedian he is third-rate
          or envy or total non-possession of the subject. Tell me at least someone from Russian actors, comedians, etc. approaching or commercialized?
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 29 November 2019 14: 38
            +6
            Quote: Zliy_mod
            Tell me at least someone from Russian actors, comedians, etc. approaching or commercialized?

            I have already named two ... and it was NOT COMMERCIAL success, but popular love. The same Zadornov, although he said that he was not a comedian, but a journalist, collected halls and jokes that he had were intellectual.
            Quote: Zliy_mod
            When full halls and full houses gather, then your statements

            And where is it in Russia, I’m interested, did Zelya gather halls? If you are about the 95th quarter, then there are all the jokes in the format of a child’s idiocy. And then there is no alternative to this project in Ukraine. Therefore, it collects something there.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 29 November 2019 14: 57
              +1
              Quote: NEXUS
              And where is it in Russia, I’m interested, did Zelya gather halls?

              I personally found out that Greenbaby was an artist only when he was put forward for election.
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 29 November 2019 15: 04
              +5
              Quote: NEXUS
              The same Zadornov, although he said that he was not a comedian, but a journalist, collected halls and jokes he had intellectual

              Zadornov is not a comedian, he just noticed the flaws and in an understandable language explained to the people with an inherent humor, but he is intellectual, it is pleasant to listen to him. And Grinshaw has humor at the level of an army ensign. Maybe that's why the warrant officers are being removed to the Armed Forces, Grinshaw does not like competitors.
          2. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 29 November 2019 14: 40
            +5
            you just confuse the comedian and the comic showman) it's a little different. for example, there is Zhvanetsky, for example. and although I am still younger for his humor and closer to everything modern, I can’t put Zelensky next to him. Well, this is how to compare a good modern comedy of which there are few and for example, Soviet classics. a different level that catches my eye even to me. and commercially successful can now be even mediocrity for PR at a very high level and technologically very charged. examples of this darkness)
        2. Sharky
          Sharky 29 November 2019 14: 41
          +4
          Welcome.
          And the fact that it breaks records in our time, such as the Comedy Club or Standup, the level of jokes speaks for itself. Either below the belt, or the level of unicellular ones, for a stupid neighing.

          Well, do not tell me, not all jokes in gums are below the belt. Simply, two schools of humor, old and new, collided. Raikin, Nikulin, I have nothing against it, for my time. Only, you need to understand that times are changing, as are preferences in humor. For example, I can’t stand the jokes of the old school, such as: Full house, Laughing panorama, Crooked mirror ... Today it all looks, at least, not seriously.
          1. Alex_You
            Alex_You 29 November 2019 14: 45
            +4
            I am also an old school ... well, it doesn’t cause me to laugh, but a new one with its farting-sexual humor does not cause any reactions.
          2. NEXUS
            NEXUS 29 November 2019 14: 46
            +2
            Quote: Sharky
            Well, do not tell me, not all jokes in gums are below the belt. Simply, two schools of humor, old and new, collided.

            Humor cannot be old or new. It is either there or it is not. About comedies and stand-ups, I’ll say that there is SOMETIMES subtle humor there, but for the most part, as I said above, it’s stupid to neigh (the main word is stupid).
            There are no modern comedians at the level of Raikin or Nikulin, or the same Zhvanetsky. They did not stoop to vulgarity, for the sake of applause and likes .... They were creators, geniuses. And now on stage there are only apprentices in fact.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 29 November 2019 15: 13
              +4
              Quote: NEXUS
              There are no modern comedians at the level of Raikin or Nikulin, or the same Zhvanetsky. They did not stoop to vulgarity, for the sake of applause and likes .... They were creators, geniuses. And now on stage there are only apprentices in fact.

              Therefore, they were loved by all the people.
            2. Sharky
              Sharky 29 November 2019 22: 22
              -1
              Humor cannot be old or new. He is either there or not.

              I agree with the second part, but not with the first. I recall the standard ancient Greek joke about “is it your spear under the tunic, or are you glad to see me” ...
              Here is an ancient school of humor, the use of the characteristic words of those times (tunic and spear). Today, one can understand such a joke only knowing what a tunic is. Only now to meet someone in a tunic today is problematic.
          3. HAM
            HAM 29 November 2019 14: 55
            +2
            This is precisely what you listed not the old comedians, but the pure opportunists, led by Petrosyan.
          4. sniperino
            sniperino 29 November 2019 15: 37
            0
            Quote: Sharky
            times are changing, as are preferences in humor
            This is us changing them
      2. Sovpadenie
        Sovpadenie 29 November 2019 14: 44
        +1
        Yeah. One piano play worth
      3. Sovpadenie
        Sovpadenie 29 November 2019 14: 50
        +1
        it speaks of his success as a comedian or as a producer. And I would like to learn more about his super projects and records.
    2. orionvitt
      orionvitt 29 November 2019 15: 12
      +3
      Here the words of the classic of Russian literature "and you are friends, no matter how you sit down, you are not suitable for musicians". Let them rename what they want, fighting efficiency, it will not add to them. Look at Ukraine, it’s not even a circus, it’s generally something incomprehensible. And as my father (a career Soviet officer) said, the army is a mirror image of the state.
  3. askort154
    askort154 29 November 2019 14: 19
    0
    As ukro-prapora do not call him, he doesn’t care - he will sniff something, drink it, or exchange it. yes
    1. Zliy_mod
      Zliy_mod 29 November 2019 14: 25
      +7
      Prapor, regardless of nationality, is a vocation and lifestyle.
      1. AK1972
        AK1972 29 November 2019 16: 49
        +2
        No need to generalize. Prapor - the chief of the warehouse is one thing, and comrade ensign - the foreman of the battalion is another.
  4. Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 29 November 2019 14: 22
    0
    Now there is no one to steal ... there are no ensigns ...
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    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 November 2019 15: 15
      +3
      Quote: Alexey from Perm
      Now there is no one to steal ... there are no ensigns ...

      There is someone to steal, they simply removed the excess competing unit.
      1. cost
        cost 29 November 2019 15: 44
        +1
        Ukraine finally said goodbye to ensigns

        Now you can safely report to the IMF on the fight against corruption lol
  5. Berkut24
    Berkut24 29 November 2019 14: 25
    +1
    I think that the ensigns in the Armed Forces of Ukraine were the only ones who understood what was happening in the army. Like we have oligarchs in the 90s. Zee removed the backbone from the APU, and now organized theft will go into an uncontrolled cap ... Oh trouble .....
  6. Alien From
    Alien From 29 November 2019 14: 26
    0
    The main thing is that Zelensky did not completely deprive the non-brothers of the brain))), they will live without ensigns, hardly without a brain .....
    1. vadsonen
      vadsonen 29 November 2019 15: 40
      -1
      As degradation occurs, each xoxol becomes dill. And dill is a plant (i.e. there is no brain).
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 29 November 2019 16: 33
        0
        I have not met before, such a short but clear description of dill)))))
  7. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 29 November 2019 14: 27
    +1
    But the regiment and brigade are not exactly the same thing. Many Western armies have both regiments and brigades in parallel. Although, it seems, in France, the regiment and the battalion are one and the same.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 November 2019 15: 21
      0
      Quote: Sergej1972
      But the regiment and brigade are not exactly the same thing.

      There was a regiment commander, now a brigade. The rank is higher and the pay is higher. Moreover, the "ensigns" were removed, and here too the extra penny will stick.
  8. prior
    prior 29 November 2019 14: 31
    +3
    I remember earlier Zelensky was a funny clown, laughing, smiling.
    Now Vovchik has become a sad president.
    Looking at his optimism in his face, his teeth are rolling and his milk is souring.
  9. Well done
    Well done 29 November 2019 14: 36
    +1
    It will be difficult for old-timers to get used to it. Etozh it is necessary "the chief master-sergeant!" Rave!
    1. askort154
      askort154 29 November 2019 14: 40
      0
      Welldone ..... It will be difficult for old-timers to get used to it. Etozh it is necessary "the chief master-sergeant!" Rave!

      They also have the title of "senior soldier"! yes
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 November 2019 15: 41
      -1
      Quote: Welldone
      Etozh it is necessary "the chief master-sergeant!" Rave!

      Well, like the owners want to do, those have a "master sergeant" and in 404 "the chief master sergeant" (you still need to pronounce it, but you will break the language in Ukrainian). The owners have everything in order, sergeants are in command, warrants are specialists. But everything has been debugged for decades, and only artists or people who have nothing to do with the army can invent a bicycle that for hundreds of years.
  10. Andrei Gurov
    Andrei Gurov 29 November 2019 14: 38
    0
    Correct decision, it remains to rename "Zaporozhets" to "TESLA". I wonder how all this sounds on the move, and I can imagine how ukrovoin runs up to this one and starts reporting - "pan junior middle senior chief ugh damn it, the Russians are coming there."
  11. Amateur
    Amateur 29 November 2019 14: 43
    -2
    The military ranks of the Brigadier General and commander admiral

    Enters the statue of the commander.
    Here it is ... oh, hard
    Reaping his stone right hand!
    Leave me, let me go - let me go ...
    I'm dying - it's over
    Fail.


    Now it should become the parade uniform of the admiral tank
  12. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 29 November 2019 14: 44
    +1
    Here they have nothing to do there))

    With these new foremen, you can break a member, which of them is more important.
    And the "brigadier general"? Who will he command?
    With admirals even funnier))
    And the brigade structure, they tried to introduce in Russia, complete bullshit. Although in Ukraine it can take root.
  13. Svetlana
    Svetlana 29 November 2019 14: 48
    +1
    Quote: NEXUS
    Hmm, from a third-rate comedian

    No need to juggle. He may not be a comedian, but the producer, producer of show content, is excellent. He knows how to create and sell new programs, which is given oh, not to everyone.

    The President has turned out of it or not, he says too early, he sees a great deal at a distance. Well, it’s possible to pour slop on the forums and TV, why not? The dog barks, the caravan goes .. And we are on the forums, including myself, there are those dogs that bark and cannot bite.
    1. vmo
      vmo 29 November 2019 15: 51
      -1
      Yes, nothing to wait did not work.
  14. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 29 November 2019 14: 59
    0
    Tsezh sho for an army without an ensign Shyka, yakogos Pelypanko?! -)
  15. kind
    kind 29 November 2019 15: 24
    0
    Instead, they established the ranks of head sergeant-master, foreman, senior foreman and chief foreman.

    And also the foreman, foreman, warehouse-foreman and the main table foreman !!! laughing
  16. Fevralsk. Morev
    Fevralsk. Morev 29 November 2019 15: 41
    0
    Correctly Platoshkin, Zelensky called the glamorous Bandera and the successor of the case Poroshenko.
  17. alex aircraft
    alex aircraft 29 November 2019 15: 45
    -1
    Shame on the southeast for the election of a cheap Jewish clown with the voice of syphilitic ...
  18. hohol95
    hohol95 29 November 2019 15: 47
    0
    Master
    noun ↓
    - owner, owner; mister
    - teacher
    - head of college (at Oxford and Cambridge)
    - master's degree (academic degree)
    - master, expert in his field, specialist
  19. alex aircraft
    alex aircraft 29 November 2019 15: 49
    +2
    And we must admit honestly the complete failure of the policy of the Russian Federation in relation to the CIS. Who put a complete zero by the name of Zurab ?? failed as a Minister of the Russian Federation sent all the work to an honorary link to Kiev.
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 29 November 2019 16: 23
      -1
      But who are you to analyze the foreign policy of the Russian Federation?

      Mom's inspector in Ukraine?))
  20. vmo
    vmo 29 November 2019 15: 49
    0
    Well, finally, and immediately everything changed, no drugs, no drunk, well, everything is just like in NATO.
  21. faterdom
    faterdom 29 November 2019 16: 01
    0
    A. Conan-Doyle had a series of short stories "The Adventures of Brigadier Gerard". This is a brigadier general of the Napoleonic army, and the "adventures" themselves are a kind of "Baron Munchausen".
  22. Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 29 November 2019 16: 18
    +1
    the rank of head sergeant ........ a wonderful rank, always at headquarters like a cat in oil, and there is also rubbed into the intimate trust of the wife of the commander-general
  23. Prisoner
    Prisoner 29 November 2019 16: 44
    -1
    Eh, Zelensky, Zelensky! A comedian, but did not realize that such a powerful object of humor as "ensign ho-hall" is being put under the knife. fool
  24. aries2200
    aries2200 29 November 2019 16: 48
    -1
    spurs even to boots or berets ... and refined roosters are ready and yes !! the law on the service of gays in the army and lesbians ... kenshchik slip ................
  25. Clone
    Clone 29 November 2019 17: 26
    +1
    Everything in Ukraine is now done according to the principle "To spite my mother's ears, I will frostbite!" I don't even want to laugh, just wonder about what is happening ... Why ???
  26. VLADMIR
    VLADMIR 29 November 2019 17: 31
    +1
    [quoteInstead of them, the titles of head-sergeant, tire, senior master-sergeant and chief master-foreman are established.] [/ quote]
    Until you contact in full form, the war will end)))
    And in abbreviation: Headquarters-Star, StarMas-Star, Glamas-Star?
  27. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 29 November 2019 19: 08
    0
    The main standard of the NATO army is a female defense minister. Rename warrant officers and foremen is not long. It will take a long time to restore order in the army. Theft and bribery in the Armed Forces do not depend on ranks and ranks ...
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 30 November 2019 02: 28
      -1
      And ineradicable, regardless of names, stripes and clicks.
  28. yustas
    yustas 29 November 2019 22: 03
    +1
    Now they will retreat without dishonoring their ancestors; they already dishonored them already (Ivanovs who don’t remember kinship
  29. LeonidL
    LeonidL 30 November 2019 02: 28
    -1
    Well, the territory of Absurdistan has always been creative - there are no ensigns - there is no one to steal! And all the master and just the sergeants will begin to steal, so it will not be mass enthusiasm and shanuvaniya, but another ganba and zrada.
  30. usr01
    usr01 30 November 2019 04: 57
    0
    Pots
    No, well, you forgive me, well, he’s still a pop.
    Well, that is quite ..............
  31. l.jensen
    l.jensen 30 November 2019 15: 10
    0
    Zelensky's title will be - Hochloppenführer.