India will pay Russia 1,2 billion dollars for the transfer of technology of the T-90С tank

The Indian Ministry of Defense will pay Russia $ 1,2 billion for the transfer of production technology to India tanks T-90S. The contract for the production of Russian tanks was signed in early November. It is reported by Defense News.

The Indian Ministry of Defense has signed a new contract worth $ 3,12 billion, which allocated funds for the production of 464 main battle tanks T-90MS in the country and payments to Russia for technology transfer. Under the agreement, Russian Uralvagonzavod and Rosoboronexport will receive $ 1,2 billion for technology transfer, and $ 1,92 billion will be paid to the Indian government armory factories OFB (Ordnance Factory Board) for the assembly of 464 T-90MS tanks in the country. Payments to Russian companies will be made in rubles.

The Indian military department stressed that the new contract implies an increase in the share of Indian components in the production of tanks from 40 to 80%, however, it is impossible to achieve full localization of T-90C production in India. The main components of the tank, up to 45% of its cost - the engine and transmission - will be delivered from Russia.

At the same time, according to the agreement, Russian defense companies will have to take on a full guarantee of production and localization with the condition that fines be imposed on them if the project encounters delays in production or cost overruns. It is expected that the military-industrial association Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) and Uralvagonzavod will produce X-NUMX T-120MS tanks a year and complete the project within four years. The tanks will be assembled at the HVF Avadi plant from car kits that will be supplied by the Russian corporation.

The Indian military expects to receive an 464 T-90MS tank to equip ten tank regiments of the Indian army, with the first 64 tanks to be delivered on time from 30 to 41 months from the date of signing the contract.

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[Magic archer]

And let Rafal alone be given for review and we are counting

[Vladislav_2]

Did we sell it

[Sayan]

Quote: Vladislav_2

Did we sell it

Her, the whole elephant will work out

[Wedmak]

Well this is not airplanes. T-90, if I remember correctly, have long been assembled in India from car kits. So we managed to feel everything and everything in it. If there were hands from the right place, long ago their copies would be riveted.

[pavelty]

So Dryings from aircraft kits, respectively, are collected, only it is not clear what happens)

[Wedmak]

I mean, the technology of the Su-30/35 is not transmitted. Like engine technology.

[Amurets]

Quote: Wedmak

If there were hands from the right place, long ago their copies would be riveted.

Riveted! “With that in mind, the improved capabilities of the Arjun Mk.2 still seem to put the Army in a quandary. What to do with a tank that is fast, accurate on the move, relatively well protected, but too heavy to be deployed in the desert nearby from the border with Pakistan as a replacement for the T-72 or T-90? Paradoxically, while the tank itself has demonstrated high speed and mobility, its weight does not allow it to serve where the Army wants it. Arjun Mk.2 will weigh about 67 tons, and this fatally limits the operational efficiency of the tank in the Indian Army.https: //topwar.ru/17867-indiyskiy-tank-ardzhun-mk2.html

[Lesorub]

Quote: Wedmak

Well this is not airplanes. T-90, if I remember correctly, have long been assembled in India from car kits. So we managed to feel everything and everything in it. If there were hands from the right place, long ago their copies would be riveted.

To rivet copies, you need to know the T 90MS armor technology, the production of guns, as I understand it, the Indians have the same at the initial level, as well as the LMS

[maidan.izrailovich]

If there were hands from the right place, long ago their copies would be riveted.

The Chinese Kalashnikovs have been riveting for a long time. Only a resource is many times less. So this is just a machine, or else a tank. Americans rd-180, having all the documentation, can not do.

Under the production license, valid until 2030, the Americans had every right to produce this engine at home. But they couldn’t.

https://topwar.ru/127947-rd-180-o-raketnyh-potokah-lzhi.html
I'm just sure that the Indians, having all the documentation and knowing all the secrets, will not be able to make a tank with the same characteristics as in Russia.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: maidan.izrailovich

The Chinese Kalashnikovs have been riveting for a long time.

Well, the Kalashnikovs and the United States are riveting, but the Chinese are buying the Su-35 and are planning to buy further. To make a copy, you need to copy not only the drawings, but also the production technology. that's why China can’t do a copy of the Su-35 (or rather engines), and the United States can copy the RD-180.

[marshes]

Quote: Vladislav_2

Did we sell it

I agree that 464 tanks would not begin to rivet something with their own achievements, because of which the UVZ team could be ashamed, as about the left Kalash.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: marshes

I agree, as if 464 tanks did not start riveting something with their best practices

hmmm ... more recently, two consecutive news about the rupture of the barrel of the Indian T-90. already at full height!

[knn54]

It seems that this is the only way Russia can support domestic tank building.

[venik]

Quote: Vladislav_2

Did we sell it

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Reminds of a "bearded" anecdote about a Japanese singer performing a "romance" under a Japanese name "atumuliyadala".... What is translated from Japanese into Russian means:"Doubts".......

[Amin_vivec]

These boobies will deliberately delay and demand money from us for delays (((

[bessmertniy]

Interestingly, India, the rubles that will be paid, earned, or take a ruble loan from us?

[marshes]

Quote: bessmertniy

Interestingly, India, the rubles that will be paid, earned, or take a ruble loan from us?

They have gold before figs, especially on their hands. So 12 tons of gold from a Chinese official, seized after a search, will seem like a trifle compared to Indian nouveaux.

[venik]

Quote: bessmertniy

Interestingly, India, the rubles that will be paid, earned, or take a ruble loan from us?

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Likely will buy on the MICEX ("Moscow Interbank Currency Exchange") .....

[Zaurbek]

So they sold 464 tanks MS or C? And then they write everywhere in different ways.

[Flooding]

After all, the article clearly says: under the contract for the purchase of production technology and components for T-90MS tanks, as well as its production at Indian facilities, it is planned to bring the localization of the T-90S tank to 80%.

[thinker]

It’s clear to you, but in the original source - Defense, without M

... local production of 464 tanks T-90S... OFB and Uralvagonzavod will produce 120 tanks T-90S per year

[Flooding]

But haven't I written the same thing?
Obviously, a contradiction.
Look between the lines for my irony.
Probably went to smoke.

[Zaurbek]

Hindus recently refuted the purchase of MS, wrote that the T-90S. Here, the readings change every other time.

[Samaks]

How to localize up to 80%, if "however, complete localization of the production of T-90S in India is impossible. The main components of the tank, which make up 45% of its cost - the engine and transmission, will be supplied from Russia." Something numbers do not fit.

[Flooding]

The localization level is a tricky thing.
At the cost of components, the Russian component is 45%.
But in the final calculation, the level of localization takes into account the cost of assembly, depreciation of equipment, etc. That is, all costs incurred in the production of the final product, including even the profit of the manufacturing company.
Thus, the original 55% of the Indian side is transformed into 80%.

[d4rkmesa]

Not bad. So, not all Indians are skiers.

[cniza]

The Indian Ministry of Defense will pay Russia $ 1,2 billion for the transfer of T-90S tank production technology to India. The contract for the production of Russian tanks was signed in early November.

Striped could not change anything ...

[Nastia makarova]

Is there anything secret in these technologies?

[Greenwood]

There the whole tank is top-secret.

[Nastia makarova]

I seriously asked !!!!

[Greenwood]

And they took you like that and told you everything. Go to the kitchen to the stove.

[Nastia makarova]

you don’t have to be rude, you’ll tell your wife to the stove !!! Of course, if she has anything I doubt)))

[Patriot statesman]

The Indian Ministry of Defense will pay Russia $ 1,2 billion for the transfer of T-90S tank production technology to India.

And for this, he will take a loan from VTB and VEB banks.

[_Ugene_]

the new contract implies an increase in the share of Indian components in the production of tanks from 40 to 80%, however, it is impossible to achieve full localization of T-90S production in India. The main components of the tank, up to 45% of its cost - the engine and transmission - will be delivered from Russia.

on the one hand, the contract implies an increase in the share of Indian components up to 80%, on the other hand, 45% - the engine and transmission - will be delivered from Russia, that the numbers do not agree, how can I make 80 + 45 100?

[major071]

Do not confuse warm with soft. The share of Indian components in the tank 80% does not overlap with the category of the cost of these components, where 45% of the total cost of the tank belongs to the Russian. These are generally different assessment categories.

[_Ugene_]

45% of the total cost, and in what units of measurement 80% of Indian components, not by mass?

[Nikolay87]

40-80% share of components, and up to 45% is the cost. Those. if the engine and transmission, suppose it is 35% of the cost of the tank, then the share of replacement (everything else) by the Indians will be 65%.

[fan_]

READ CAREFULLY 45 PERCENT OF TANK COST

[_Ugene_]

and 80% of what? the mass of the tank or what?

[rocket757]

The Indian military stressed that the new contract implies an increase in the share of Indian components in the production of tanks

this is no longer "dancing" around the bush, it is logical and justified on their part.
What happens as a result ... we will probably hear.

[Thunderbolt]

If you don’t sell it differently, then why not.
In theory, our tank builder should have free capacities and it would be nice to use them for early implementation of the plan for the Russian defense order.

[Graz]

the technology can be sold if there is already a new one put on stream, but for some reason I don’t see those 2000 armatures that were promised by the troops

[voyaka uh]

Congratulations!
Russia has earned excellently.

[Ingenegr]

So what kind of specific object are we talking about: the T-90S or T-90MS?

[Graz]

the whole technology will be in the Yankees in less than a month, the Indians cannot keep other people's secrets

[Nastia makarova]

if they sell it means there is nothing secret

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: maidan.izrailovich

Americans rd-180, having all the documentation, can not do.

Nothing like this. They do not have technical documentation in sufficient volume. And they are not going to produce at home. These engines are manufactured on purely Russian production, on Russian territory, and on Russian equipment.

In order to overcome a US law prohibiting the use of an imported product on a US space product, a fake US-Russian enterprise was created. On which engines are "produced". Everyone, of course, knows about this, but the interests of NASA here exceed the bureaucratic interests of legislators. To manufacture engines according to Russian drawings is, firstly, to provide our production with Russian standards, drawings, technological documents, but translated into English. With a legally clean translation.
Next, organize the production of all materials used in the construction.
Next, install the equipment. Further, test stands. Next is to make prototypes and conduct the whole range of tests. And start working in the metric measurement system.
Now you will understand for yourself, but why do they need this bodyagie?

[Ros 56]

What concrete developers will have from this, or will the managers from Rosoboronexport get the prize?

[Samaks]

I don’t understand something, the tanks will be from our car kits. Then, what technologies will the Indians pay for the transfer, and what will be transferred?

[Seaflame]

The good news, but I would like a little more money)

[KJIETyc]

Quote: _Ugene_

and 80% of what? the mass of the tank or what?

What a stubborn. For such simple analogies should be given. in a tank, 80 bolts made in india cost $ 100, and 20 bolts that cannot be made in india are imported from Russia worth $ 80. The cost of all bolts will be $ 180 (44% of the cost falls on bolts from the Russian Federation). But at the same time it will consist of 80% of Indian bolts, localized by 80%. And such people reflect on some higher matters, shame.