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Macron's letter to Putin on missile proposal irritates NATO

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Macron's letter to Putin on missile proposal irritates NATO

The European press learned that French President Emmanuel Macron sent a letter to Vladimir Putin. The letter refers to the initiative of the Russian president regarding a moratorium on the deployment of medium- and shorter-range missiles in Europe.


A letter from Emmanuel Macron was a response to the message of the Russian leader, in which he earlier addressed the heads of European and Asian states. Vladimir Putin noted that after the US withdraws from the INF Treaty, it would be important to focus on maintaining the security picture that the treaty has supported since the end of the 1980's. This picture could emerge if we together refused to deploy missiles and missile systems, which were forbidden by the treaty concluded between the USSR and the USA.

Emmanuel Macron confirmed the receipt of the letter and in his reply, as the European press writes, noted that the proposal of Vladimir Putin is worthy of attention.

It is noteworthy that the very response from Macron to the Russian president caused irritation in NATO. The fact is that the alliance also earlier confirmed the receipt of the letter from the Kremlin, but, in fact, the idea of ​​Vladimir Putin was ignored, marking it as "not trustworthy."

In fact, NATO confirmed that they are ready to deploy American medium and shorter range missiles on its territory. The statement by the French president that Putin’s proposal is worth considering once again demonstrated the virtual absence of a unified position in the Western military bloc. Recall that earlier Macron himself announced the "death of NATO's brain" and that the US has lost interest in interacting with its European partners.
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  1. bessmertniy
    bessmertniy 28 November 2019 06: 02
    +4
    Macron Lule received from NATO. Now he can wait for Lyuli from Trump. wassat And NATO has shown that it is simply disgusting for the bloc to negotiate on containing arms growth.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 28 November 2019 06: 19
      +1
      it is not for nothing that our cavalry guards walked in Paris, historical memory remained. remember that the ray is friends. wink
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 28 November 2019 06: 44
        -20
        Quote: Aerodrome
        it is not for nothing that our cavalry guards walked in Paris, historical memory remained. remember that the ray is friends. wink

        and what, we have here apparently "from Paris" colleagues? did you not step on? laughing eat a croissant, swallow cappuccino, and imagine, sitting in a cafe in Montmartre, that it is not T-72 and T 80 .. and the "abrams" are going .. dreaming is not harmful?
        1. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 28 November 2019 07: 04
          -16
          the site is popular among NATO members ... wassat
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 28 November 2019 11: 40
            0
            Quote: Aerodrome
            the site is popular among NATO members.

            I don’t understand why they were so offended by you.
      2. Rostislav
        Rostislav 28 November 2019 08: 09
        +4
        The historical memory that it is better to be friends with the Russians was driven into the Europeans with a bayonet by Ivans on the battlefield, and not by the cavalry guards ... with another "tool" and elsewhere.
    2. knn54
      knn54 28 November 2019 08: 40
      +3
      It's just that Macron (like Erdogan) is tired of constantly "politically" looking into the mouths of the Yankees.
  2. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 28 November 2019 06: 06
    +14
    Vladimir Putin’s proposal is worthy of attention.
    The current president, without the prefix "ex", but thinks positively and realistically.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 28 November 2019 06: 37
      -15
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Vladimir Putin’s proposal is worthy of attention.
      The current president, without the prefix "ex", but thinks positively and realistically.

      og, and even bohsnim that old women love! yes
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 28 November 2019 06: 40
        +9
        Quote: Aerodrome
        old woman loves

        One! love The old woman ... You will not command the heart ....
        1. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 28 November 2019 07: 06
          -10
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          Quote: Aerodrome
          old woman loves

          One! love The old woman ... You will not command the heart ....

          yes ... he’s not looking for peers lol
          1. zadorin1974
            zadorin1974 28 November 2019 08: 27
            +15
            Better with a ugly old woman than with rear-wheel drive.
            1. Dym71
              Dym71 28 November 2019 10: 12
              +1
              Quote: zadorin1974
              Better with a ugly old woman than with rear-wheel drive.

              What terrible thoughts visit you in the morning wassat
              1. zadorin1974
                zadorin1974 28 November 2019 10: 17
                +7
                All in classics, I want a house, but I will go on a goat!
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 November 2019 11: 42
          +2
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          The old woman ... you will not command the heart

          Precisely, one should not mix politics with personal life.
  3. GRF
    GRF 28 November 2019 06: 07
    +5
    change shoes on time, this is not to betray, but to anticipate ....)
    1. 30hgsa
      30hgsa 28 November 2019 06: 14
      +21
      Whom does he betray? The United States withdrew from the treaty and is going to deploy medium-range missiles in Europe, as a result, targets in Europe will become targets for our medium-range missiles, and not targets in the United States. These are the Poles, to please the owner, are ready to paint "shoot here" in Krakow and Warsaw, and Paris is more dear to the French than Washington.
      1. GRF
        GRF 28 November 2019 06: 44
        +3
        quite often by betrayal, it means a banal violation of subordination ...
        1. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 28 November 2019 07: 11
          -6
          Quote: GRF
          quite often by betrayal, it means a banal violation of subordination ...

          that’s what a catchy wording .. (I’ll take it under the cloth), fantasy is storming. winked
      2. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 28 November 2019 07: 17
        -8
        Quote: 30hgsa
        as a result, targets in Europe will become targets for our medium-range missiles, and not targets in the United States.
        hmm .. in
        the President's speech sounded "on the decision-making centers" or I misunderstood?
        1. Vladimir we
          Vladimir we 28 November 2019 11: 10
          0
          Quote: Aerodrome
          hmm .. in
          the President's speech sounded "on the decision-making centers" or I misunderstood?

          But does one interfere with the other?
          1. Aerodrome
            Aerodrome 28 November 2019 11: 12
            0
            Quote: we vladimirovich
            Quote: Aerodrome
            hmm .. in
            the President's speech sounded "on the decision-making centers" or I misunderstood?

            But does one interfere with the other?

            mmm ... in the modern political world, nothing bothers anyone at all ...
      3. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 28 November 2019 07: 42
        +3
        Quote: 30hgsa
        Whom does he betray? The United States withdrew from the treaty and is going to deploy medium-range missiles in Europe, as a result, targets in Europe will become targets for our medium-range missiles, and not targets in the United States. These are the Poles, to please the owner, are ready to paint "shoot here" in Krakow and Warsaw, and Paris is more dear to the French than Washington.

        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Whom is Macron betraying? Is it bad for France that it will target less of our missiles?

        good good
        In the rest, I almost dislocated my brains.
        Your shirt is closer to your body! - the basic idea behind Macron's actions. Apparently, he does not want to fight Russia under the command of Washington "to the last Frenchman" ...
        It’s interesting what will happen when many in the overseas regional committee say:
        "You need - you and arm and fight!"
        1. Kurare
          Kurare 28 November 2019 10: 43
          +5
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Your shirt is closer to the body! - The basic idea of ​​Macron’s actions.

          There is also an interesting point in this "confrontation":
          Macron is the protege of the Rothschild clan, and the United States, but not Trump, is the interests of the Rockefellers. Between these two powerful clans there was a rather fragile but stable peace. Now, when the debts of most of the highly developed countries are going off scale, and the economy will not grow at all, from overseas they are increasingly beginning to crawl into someone else's "honey barrel".

          After all, after the US left the INF Treaty, they actually began to demand money from the Europeans for their own protection. They are doing the same "trick" in South Korea. Only the French did not agree with this. And, as it turned out, it is profitable to trade, and not be at enmity with Russia. It didn't work out to bring Russia to its knees to "break the bank" and get everything!

          "Follow the money" and you will get answers to most of the questions why everything happens the way it does.
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 28 November 2019 11: 04
            +4
            Quote: Kurare
            After all, after the US left the INF Treaty, they actually began to demand money from Europeans for their protection.

            They made an incredible precedent - they represented Russia, uniting Germany and voluntarily withdrawing troops from Europe, as an aggressor, obliged countries to place their own military bases, planted them on military purchases, drew them a doctrine in which Europe is cannon fodder, and now they decided to force this Europe to pay for all the pleasures ...
            1. Kurare
              Kurare 28 November 2019 11: 15
              +3
              Quote: ROSS 42
              They made an incredible precedent - they represented Russia, uniting Germany and voluntarily withdrawing troops from Europe, the aggressor ...

              hi Make an enemy image out of nothing and make money! And the bread slicers of these "partners" are simply gigantic.

              History already knows such examples and one of them is the First World War. In Europe, then they also sculpted enemies, this period is also called "wandering in a dream." When the war broke out, the majority suddenly "woke up" and began to clutch their heads: how did we allow this, how could we speak so shamelessly about the war.

              Recently in Europe quite often begin to recall this period of history and draw parallels. Maybe it's for the best.
      4. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 November 2019 11: 44
        +1
        Quote: 30hgsa
        And who is he betraying? The United States has withdrawn from the treaty and intends to deploy medium-range missiles in Europe, as a result, targets in Europe will become targets for our medium-range missiles, and not targets in the United States.

        Well, France does not want to sleep in an embrace with "Calibers"
    2. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 28 November 2019 06: 22
      -8
      Quote: GRF
      change shoes on time, this is not to betray, but to anticipate ....)

      smart phrase, sorry, it belongs not to you
      Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Perigord
      1. GRF
        GRF 28 November 2019 06: 38
        +6
        yes, I don’t argue, call me, I was too lazy to write (s) and his name, for fear of making a mistake in it,
        therefore, he conducted his free, not literal, interpretation ...
        in the world it’s getting harder and harder to come up with something new ...
        1. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 28 November 2019 07: 07
          -1
          Quote: GRF
          yes, I don’t argue, call me, I was too lazy to write (s) and his name, for fear of making a mistake in it,
          therefore, he conducted his free, not literal, interpretation ...
          in the world it’s getting harder and harder to come up with something new ...

          yes it’s not a question, I just remembered by chance drinks
    3. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 28 November 2019 06: 34
      +10
      Whom is Macron betraying? Is it bad for France that it will target less of our missiles?
      1. GRF
        GRF 28 November 2019 07: 18
        +2
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Whom is Macron betraying? Is it bad for France that it will target less of our missiles?

        I am for what would Europe be sovereign ...
        but America, when it drops its, for example, bases, it usually bombes them ...
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 28 November 2019 07: 23
          +4
          Before joining NATO, France had a doctrine "defense in all directions"That is, at least formally, but their nuclear weapons could be aimed at Americans with Angles. All the same, the Gallic rooster (in a good way))) is a proud bird, no worse than a hedgehog!
        2. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 28 November 2019 07: 38
          -5
          Quote: GRF
          I am for what would Europe be sovereign ...
          but America, when it drops its, for example, bases, it usually bombes them ...

          let me disagree. states bomb rebellious is a fact, drop bases - this is not about the United States. seedlings are always sown there (as in Afghanistan), and then home. (Loot to be considered) here you are Eugene, a sane person, imagine that the Americans will start bombing Rammstein ... how are you? I'm not talking about the group, I’m sinful myself, I listen sometimes .. (hand face)
          1. GRF
            GRF 28 November 2019 07: 56
            +1
            their abandoned bases in Syria recently were completely bombed so that others wouldn’t get it,
            Europeans (for example, Germans) were bombarded with frenzy.
            Americans are already waging an economic war against Europeans, why can't you imagine the bombing of European cities if Europeans increasingly disobey, or even begin to think against the United States?
            I think that many terrorist attacks in Europe, by the hands of Middle Eastern migrants, were committed with the filing of the United States ...
            so the French, if they are afraid, then American missiles, it’s not for nothing that Putin offered Macron protection ...
            the death of NATO’s brain bothers Macron precisely because armaments change without informing him ... and where it flew, and after the fact, he learns even without membership in NATO ...
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 November 2019 11: 50
          0
          Quote: GRF
          I for what would Europe be sovereign ..

          And the majority of the population of Russia and Europe is not against it. Since the formation of the United States, "Uncle Sam" wanted to get into the bedroom of Europe, after the First World War he already squeezed sideways, but after the Second World War he had already pushed the owners out of bed and collapsed on their bunk like a master.
      2. Redfox3k
        Redfox3k 28 November 2019 10: 16
        0
        For the zayekan, anyone who disagrees with their position is a traitor and enemy of "democratic" values. The more Europa burns in vigorous ashes, the warmer Uncle Sam will feel in his soul. True, Uncle Sam himself, too, will not be, in about 20 minutes.
      3. Fat
        Fat 28 November 2019 11: 35
        0
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Whom is Macron betraying? Is it bad for France that it will target less of our missiles?

        I wonder why France needs American missiles? The French have their own, quite decent SNF. Macron just needs to change the doctrine of their application. Separate NATO interests and national interests, well, as Erdogan did, for example.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 November 2019 06: 14
    +1
    Emmanuel ... I only associate this name with ... a famous film. Even a whole series. Well, he’s not stupid, not stupid, but all of it is ... Because it is soft and essentially unnatural ... request
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 28 November 2019 06: 47
      -7
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Emmanuel ... I only associate this name with ... request
      I went to wake my wife ...
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 November 2019 11: 51
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Well, he’s not stupid, not stupid, but all of it is ... Because it is soft and essentially unnatural

      Well, he is not Russian, but a Frenchman, do leniency.
  5. YOUR
    YOUR 28 November 2019 06: 27
    +2
    I don’t like this phrase ... after the US left the INF Treaty, it would be important to focus on maintaining the security picture, ...
    More precisely, to preserve the security picture,
    I would like all not to have a security picture, namely security.
    I understand that not only depends on us
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 November 2019 11: 54
      0
      Quote: YOUR
      I would like all not to have a security picture, namely security.

      Who is security from? Not from there they need to wait for the attack, and Russia is not their enemy.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 November 2019 06: 35
    +3
    Apparently showing Vanguard to the Americans made Macron more impressed than them. Therefore, he approached the GDPR message more rationally and pragmatically.
    Macron’s response to the Russian president irritated NATO.
    So this is understandable - how to call the proposal of the Russian president worthy of attention and even answer him in writing.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 28 November 2019 07: 23
      -9
      Apparently showing Vanguard to the Americans made Macron more impressed than them.
      Captain, write easier, I’m dull from the night, and your style puts me in a difficult frame. wink
  7. Waltasar
    Waltasar 28 November 2019 06: 42
    +3
    I am glad that there are still sane people in Europe.
    But in France, a crisis of democracy is clearly emerging, someone can help the local Maidan ...
    1. Redfox3k
      Redfox3k 28 November 2019 10: 18
      0
      Yellow vests - as the beginning ...
  8. Carib
    Carib 28 November 2019 06: 46
    +2
    Putin and the team are excellent with a plus sign. We must continue to drive wedges into NATO. The first wedges C400 Turkey. Here is a second wedge. If in NATO with the striped only the Poles with the Baltic states remain, we can say the plan is implemented.
  9. Yujiko
    Yujiko 28 November 2019 07: 00
    -1
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    Quote: Aerodrome
    old woman loves

    One! love The old woman ... You will not command the heart ....

    Russian girl.
  10. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 28 November 2019 07: 13
    +1
    Quote: 30hgsa
    ... and the French are more dear to Paris than Washington.

    Very expensive, even in 1940. surrendered to the Germans so that they would not bomb and destroy Paris. Apparently now they are ready to give all of France to survive. So are the French out of the game?
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 28 November 2019 07: 19
    +2
    The letter refers to the initiative of the Russian president regarding a moratorium on the deployment of medium- and shorter-range missiles in Europe.

    Who will refuse such a "tidbit" of profit? And generals always want to have a more powerful club in their hands!
    Looks like Macron is off topic? Or his "daddies" there is little shine?
    1. novel66
      novel66 28 November 2019 07: 37
      +3
      Hello hello hi Well, Trampushka said that you have to pay for defense, i.e. and they’ll deliver rockets and want money for it. here Macron has a template and drove
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 28 November 2019 08: 23
        +2
        Hello Roman soldier
        Although Macron was puffing up, he began to speak ... more solidly, perhaps, he was just a shout, like so many before him!
        What was "put into his ears", he voices.
        It seems that these are not the guys who want to make money on rockets \ can. Business, nothing personal.
        1. novel66
          novel66 28 November 2019 08: 26
          +2
          maybe de Gaulle’s laurels do not give rest? somehow you need to light up in history
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 28 November 2019 08: 31
            +2
            Then immediately the crown like Napoleon.
            1. novel66
              novel66 28 November 2019 08: 32
              +3
              he finished badly. the British poisoned
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 28 November 2019 09: 33
                +2
                But how brightly he lived!
                1. novel66
                  novel66 28 November 2019 10: 49
                  +2
                  at one time very fanatical. studied both Manfred and Tarle and other little-known
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 28 November 2019 12: 18
                    +1
                    The world history of politics and wars is very useful and interesting to know.
    2. Fat
      Fat 28 November 2019 12: 00
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      The letter refers to the initiative of the Russian president regarding a moratorium on the deployment of medium- and shorter-range missiles in Europe.

      Who will refuse such a "tidbit" of profit? And generals always want to have a more powerful club in their hands!
      Looks like Macron is off topic? Or his "daddies" there is little shine?

      Macron in the subject, only the glory of De Gaulle, or Bonaparte for him a sweeter carrot.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 28 November 2019 12: 17
        +1
        Quote: Thick
        Macron in the subject, only the glory of De Gaulle, or Bonaparte for him a sweeter carrot.

        Maybe so, or maybe they don’t want to substitute ... As it often happens with politicians, he says one thing, but hides something else in the coffin.
        We will see. Events will not pass by us at all.
  12. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 28 November 2019 08: 03
    0
    Couple, France, repeat the step of the previous president with the withdrawal from the NATO military organization.
  13. askort154
    askort154 28 November 2019 08: 25
    +3
    "..... The statement of the President of France that Putin's proposal is worth considering has once again demonstrated the actual lack of a unified position in the Western military bloc ... "

    It looks like NATO's foundation has begun to crack. Erdogan, Mokron, and today in the "World Review" article - Bulgaria refused to provide the US with its seaports for the US Navy. This article should also appear on the VO website. yes
    1. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 28 November 2019 09: 51
      +2
      Bulgaria refused the US to provide its seaports for the US Navy


      Our procedure for providing bases to foreign troops is unrealistically tight and almost impossible to do. Training is allowed, but the bases can only be ours.

      And second, we also refused to Romania to create a NATO Black Sea Fleet. Our view is that there is nothing to confront with you. The Black Sea should be free from tensions and the military, although the Americans go when they want in it. We can’t interfere, but we won’t join the military circus.

      This article should also appear on the VO website.


      I definitely don’t believe in it :) If you spit on us, yes.
  14. bar
    bar 28 November 2019 09: 10
    0
    NATO confirmed that they are ready for of its territory deploy american rockets

    NATO has no territory. The territory is in the countries of the participants. And the same France does not seem to be eager to become a target. And I think she’s not alone. On this, except that Poland with the Balts would agree with pleasure
  15. saveall
    saveall 28 November 2019 09: 39
    0
    Hmm ... Poor France, how can she escape from the clutches of the United States and global puppeteers ..? The most important thing is that Macron understands everything where and what Europe is leading to, and can do nothing. Trying to secretly agree on something, but bought and selling media like jackals sniff out everything, you can’t hide anything from them. Why have an agent when there is a corrupt media? Too firmly braided with nets Europushka ... It seems to me that we will now see a sharp activation of yellow jellies.
  16. Berkut24
    Berkut24 28 November 2019 09: 55
    +1
    Actually, the alignment still does not change, but the wedges are absolutely free for us and useful. In addition to the US decision to cut its contributions to NATO. I don’t believe that NATO will fall apart in the near future, but it’s always nice to see that someone is not keeping up.
  17. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 28 November 2019 11: 14
    +2
    Quote: ROSS 42
    Your shirt is closer to the body! -

    own grandmother ..
    1. monah
      monah 28 November 2019 12: 24
      +1
      And why did everyone attack Macronsha? A normal aunt is not stupid to see, he will not teach a bad boy!
      1. saveall
        saveall 28 November 2019 12: 40
        0
        Quote: monah
        And why did everyone attack Macronsha? A normal aunt is not stupid to see, he will not teach a bad boy!

        Well, yes. She has been teaching him since childhood ... lol
        In 2007, he married his former French teacher Brigitte Tronier ...
      2. albert
        albert 28 November 2019 15: 32
        0
        Quote: monah
        And why did everyone attack Macronsha? A normal aunt is not stupid to see, he will not teach a bad boy!

        Campaign, just envy. laughing