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Media: NATO cannot protect Europe without US involvement

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The German Analytical Institute, which advises the German government and parliament on foreign and security policy - the Science and Politics Foundation (SWP) - in its report states that NATO cannot fulfill its tasks without the participation of the United States. This is written by the Polish portal wnp.pl.


Currently, the document says, the Alliance is experiencing an extremely difficult period in its stories, and he is shaken by internal divisions, and many of its members are not sufficiently armed.

At the same time, without the USA, the bloc is not capable of much. In particular, the function of nuclear deterrence, if any, will be forced to take on Britain and France.

In the same way, the United States cannot be replaced in the political sense, since no country has such weight in the international arena. Theoretically, the union of France, Great Britain and Germany could become an analogue of America, but there are too many contradictions between them.

The report indicates that in the short and medium term there is no alternative to NATO that (the organization) could boast the same experience and influence, as well as the geographical advantage of the length from Canada to Norway and Turkey. At the same time, the document offers the German leadership to strengthen the European pillar of the alliance while establishing transatlantic relations.

Against this background, it is worth recalling that the Turkish authorities refused to support the NATO directive on sending troops to Poland and the Baltic states to "protect against the Russian threat."
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  1. Honest Citizen
    Honest Citizen 27 November 2019 15: 17
    +1
    At the same time, the document offers the German leadership to strengthen the European pillar of the alliance while establishing transatlantic relations.

    All clear. Instead of the Yankees go home, they offer the government to shout: Yankees to Wellcome.
    Well, and what kind of independence and sovereignty of Germany can then be said?
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 27 November 2019 15: 21
      +10
      But I don’t see ... from whom to Protect? belay
      Europe will be torn from the inside ... Russia does not need it nafig! No.
      1. Sergey39
        Sergey39 27 November 2019 15: 27
        +3
        NATO will not be able to protect Europe from the United States. What is incomprehensible here?
        1. NF68
          NF68 27 November 2019 15: 48
          +1
          Quote: Sergey39
          NATO will not be able to protect Europe from the United States. What is incomprehensible here?


          The bull's eye. The United States has long been the most dangerous friend, who is far more dangerous than any potential adversary.
          1. cniza
            cniza 27 November 2019 15: 51
            +4
            And they understand this, they just don’t speak out loud, as they are under occupation.
      2. NF68
        NF68 27 November 2019 15: 46
        +2
        Quote: Hunter 2
        But I don’t see ... from whom to Protect?


        From refugees from Africa and the Middle East. Only here we need not military force, but a sensible EU foreign policy. And with this, the EU is tight.
      3. venik
        venik 27 November 2019 15: 58
        +3
        Quote: Hunter 2
        But I don’t see ... from whom to Protect?

        ========
        good Directly "removed from the tongue!" ... FROM WHOM to "protect" ??? From Russia or what? And she (Russia) that "Baltic" or "Poland" NEEDS ??? .......
        Well, "zhyhalsya" from them ...... Well, thank God !!! wink
      4. okko077
        okko077 27 November 2019 17: 15
        0
        NATO cannot protect Europe without US involvement

        If there is no USA, no one will protect Europe ... Europe must be protected from the USA . The sooner Europeans understand this, the better for them!
      5. GibSoN
        GibSoN 27 November 2019 19: 02
        -2
        Europe will be torn from the inside ... Russia does not need it nafig!
        Well, funny right)) That's serious, but what does Russia need?
    2. AB
      AB 27 November 2019 15: 30
      +3
      German sovereignty? What are you talking about? Germany is "de facto" and "de jure" occupied by the United States. In the economy, the Germans can still kick, but in the military and political spheres only until a harsh shout from the United States.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 27 November 2019 16: 03
        +3
        Quote: Hunter 2
        But I don’t see ... from whom to Protect?
        Europe will be torn from the inside ... Russia does not need it nafig!

        NATO concerns about "joint defense" and "containment" are a myth for the population of NATO countries and for the preservation of a "political face" on a global scale.
        But it’s amazing that you too are easily led into this propaganda and do not see NATO as a serious threat to our security. It’s not digging trenches on our borders with the purpose of sitting in them.
        Shoigu in this respect is more realistic and extremely frank. ---
        NATO's military activity at our borders has reached an unprecedented level since the Cold War. The alliance's policy is aimed at strengthening its advanced military presence on the eastern flank. For this, the Alliance is actively using the myth of the Russian threat, ”said Sergey Shoigu, confirming his words with concrete and eloquent facts.
        The scale of operational and combat training near the borders of Russia and Belarus is expanding, and their intensity is growing.
        Block countries work out offensive missions. The alliance actively connects non-aligned countries to these events.
        Geographic areas for major military exercises are being chosen closer to Russian borders.
        It is significant that in recent weeks the number of forces and assets involved in it has been increased.
        A significant increase in NATO intelligence activity in the Baltic and the Black Sea region is recorded. This year alone, Russian aerospace forces flew to intercept potential violators of the state border more than 120 times.
        The tension is growing in connection with the actions of the West to increase military mobility, the ultimate goal of which is to ensure the rapid movement of American troops and forces across Europe.
        To organize the reception and deployment of reinforcement troops in the Baltic countries and Eastern European countries, coordination centers have been formed, advanced airfields have been prepared, seaports have been modernized, and a system for the early storage of property and weapons is being created.
        Improvement of infrastructure is carried out in order to minimize the time for the transfer of troops from deep rear to external borders and thereby increase offensive features.https: //function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm? id = 12201171% 40egNews
        1. Honest Citizen
          Honest Citizen 27 November 2019 16: 24
          +1
          This is all, of course, good. Those. bad, but I want to say something else.
          A war when a response arrives for NATO is considered unacceptable. It is in words that they are ready to "tear and throw," and when 200 echelons go to their countries, I think they will quickly reach a critical level. The United States wants to fight Russia to the last European. And everyone wants to sit out one after the other. Only the roles have already been painted, who and when should clear the living space for the Anglo-Saxons. First Russia, then China. And the United States understands this very well too. So they need to provoke some Ukraine into a war with the Russian Federation, and sit out themselves.
    3. den3080
      den3080 27 November 2019 16: 26
      +2
      Similarly, the United States cannot be replaced in the political sense, as no country has such weight in the international arena. Theoretically, the union of France, Great Britain and Germany could become an analogue of America, but there are too many contradictions between them.

      Have you tried to be friends with Russia ?? Religion does not allow ??
      Theoretically, Russia could become an analogue of America. And all far-fetched problems would be removed in one fell swoop :))
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 27 November 2019 17: 23
        +2
        Quote: den3080
        Have you tried to be friends with Russia ?? And all far-fetched problems would be removed in one fell swoop :))

        Here I am, about the same yes without further ado winked and replacing the whole
        Analytical Institute, advising the German government and parliament on foreign and security policy - Science and Politics Foundation (SWP)
        and, mind you, without too much paperwork
        states in its report
        I confirm -
        that NATO cannot fulfill its tasks without the participation of the United States.
    4. Klingon
      Klingon 27 November 2019 17: 59
      0
      such whistles will be while Merkel, Maas and Karenbauer are spinning at the helm and campus of Germany, unfortunately the ruling coalition led by CDU
    5. GibSoN
      GibSoN 27 November 2019 19: 01
      -1
      Well, and what kind of independence and sovereignty of Germany can then be said?
      Have you been in a coma for almost 75 years? Or, after almost 75 years, did not bother to find out that there is not any German sovereignty? What does this have to do with, in general, at the legislative level, including the UN? Or type of time has passed, amnesty?
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 27 November 2019 15: 20
    +5
    union of France, Great Britain and Germany
    Swan, cancer and pike. As they gather for war, the war will end ...
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 27 November 2019 15: 21
    0
    But what about Poland? She marks the territory, oh belay she marks for the place of the United States - to panop in Europe, to be the first mongrel, that is, she is a mongrel, but so far not the first beloved wife with! !! crying wassat
  4. NF68
    NF68 27 November 2019 15: 29
    +2
    Similarly, the United States cannot be replaced in the political sense, as no country has such weight in the international arena.


    On the other hand, not only one country, not only NATO, but the whole world, does not create the same EU as many problems as the United States creates. So the real value of the United States for the EU is far from straightforward. Just the other day, on the German television channel ARD, I read the results of a survey of residents of Germany regarding their attitude to the United States — about 60% of the respondents said that the United States is not a friendly country for Germany.
  5. Alien From
    Alien From 27 November 2019 15: 37
    +1
    The tricks are mattress muzzles, now through NATO they decided to have a nightmare on the Europeans ......., give them the money you see .......! Apparently the printing press was not rubber)
  6. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 27 November 2019 15: 39
    +5
    you seriously think that there is someone on planet Earth who can attack this block. with a population of 500 million people. First-class military technology. army and navy ?? she herself is able to protect the United States)

    1. kit88
      kit88 27 November 2019 15: 53
      +4
      Your post is not entirely clear. You write that by 2050 "Europe" will shrink by 13% of the population.
      NATO without the USA is a tank without a tower, like something big, but it’s not adapted to fight. Somehow they were already trying to fight Libya - a week later the shells were over, they ran to the Pentagon to ask for a loan.
  7. cniza
    cniza 27 November 2019 15: 49
    +1
    Media: NATO cannot protect Europe without US involvement


    Well yes, the USA is your God ...
  8. Starper-xnumx
    Starper-xnumx 27 November 2019 15: 49
    +2
    NATO itself in Syria has already shown how it protects its allies .. They shamefully dropping all ....
    Thanks to Turkey for support, Russia knows how to blog!
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 27 November 2019 16: 14
    0
    But the little NATO can’t rock the boat and don’t get impudent ... then who will offend her then?
    If someone hovers up, it’s only themselves, themselves!
    In short, another empty nonsense, for the glory of the great and mighty "big brother" from overseas okeyed! Pay and don't rock the boat!
  10. parkello
    parkello 27 November 2019 16: 22
    +1
    NATO can’t yes ... in general, how to start a war without the Americans. It can’t ... no Yankees, no war, but if there are Yankees, they still will not help. so ... for some reason, without the Americans it’s calmer. what
  11. sir_obs
    sir_obs 27 November 2019 16: 35
    0
    from whom to protect her? all who can write directly to NATO and are composed, And no one else needs a gift.
  12. MKPU-115
    MKPU-115 27 November 2019 16: 51
    0
    "NATO cannot defend Europe without US participation" - protect from whom? From Iran? As American politicians recently argued, the deployment of missile defense in Europe is against Iranian missiles.
    It's time to defend Europe about the best friend - the United States. Having such a friend - no enemies.
  13. zenion
    zenion 27 November 2019 16: 54
    0
    Whom and from whom is NATO going to defend? There is no second Hitler and can not be seen yet on the horizon. From Ukraine, it is not possible to create a replacement for Germany due to total theft and the inability to create anything. Americans can attack Europe, they are already in it. They can attack themselves and in the States they have shown it. Perhaps NATO is afraid that North Korea, having nuclear weapons through a wormhole, could send a nuclear missile to NATO's den, and even to Washagenton. With God's help, instead of a rocket from North Korea, this will make the volcano, God's mercy, from Yellowstone.
  14. Ax Matt
    Ax Matt 27 November 2019 16: 57
    0
    NATO is the essence of a large collective farm, assembled from inveterate "kulaks" (this is a positive term meaning a strong business executive). That is why everyone there wants to pull the blanket over themselves. When there was no threat, they all developed their economy together under the leadership of the elder, mindlessly placing all the responsibility on him. And it was beneficial to him, because NATO is, first of all, an ECONOMIC system for bringing industry and manufacturers to the same standard, again, set by the elders. The elder one produced and sold, at least weapons, at least support, at least technology. Those who were eager to go upstaged and simply took away sales markets, contracts, and went bankrupt (for example, France). All this under the slogan of the main enemy. Now that everyone suddenly felt independent, they simply do not know what to do with it. They have forgotten what it is like to be self-reliant and defend themselves. They have lost their national authenticity in the swamp of tolerance. The older flabby and dull, and all his vykrymosh are looking for a vector of development. But the guidance systems are outdated. Therefore, in military terms (and this was deliberately planned by the senior), they are all without him, whatever he may be, just a bunch of eaten-up, arrogant and incompetent functionaries. Of course they can do something, they have something. But being under external protection for many years turned them from soldiers to farmers. Their inflated 500 million population is just an appearance. The overwhelming majority of Europeans are immigrants and people who have never held weapons in their hands, who did not know the hardships of service. Definitely not the defenders of their countries. By the way, the same applies to the States (practical shooting and shooting range have little relation to real military operations). Therefore, NATO is good only for its economic activities for the "beholder" and assistants. The rest is fiction ...
  15. Ros 56
    Ros 56 27 November 2019 16: 58
    0
    NATO can’t do anything even with stripes, is it really not clear. Oh and slow-witted.
  16. knn54
    knn54 27 November 2019 17: 06
    0
    ...
    "To anger the master? - will take revenge, you will suffer,
    He will not help you in any way
    They don’t care - you live, you die,
    The master only needs a persistent mess.

    Barin will remember all your problems,
    Can help, lend you money,
    Takes a loan, drives you into bondage
    So that your great-grandchildren should.
    ...
    Hid where you are, where you got to,
    You democracy is the right of people
    Where is your voice, who are you selling to?
    You are not your mistress; you are a plebeian.

    The dollar bought up all the "democracy",
    Took and retail, wholesale, crib,
    Where she didn’t want to sell herself -
    They burned them with a flamethrower, crowded them with war "...
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 27 November 2019 18: 12
      +1
      Quote: knn54
      ... Where is your voice, to whom are you sold?
      You are not your mistress, you are a plebeian ...

      Well, this is what Trikimi wrote about Ukraine ...
      I understand, tired of lagging in the tail of Russia, perhaps nicer under the tail of Europe crying
      And they do not shine another role in Europe. For us, Ukraine was a sister, and for them - a bargaining chip in a game with Russia!
  17. K-50
    K-50 27 November 2019 17: 59
    +1
    NATO cannot protect Europe without US involvement

    Did anyone attack NATO? belay
    NATO members need to protect themselves from their ravings, nightmares, but this will not help the psychiatrist and the armed forces here. request
  18. Klingon
    Klingon 27 November 2019 18: 02
    0
    Quote: Thrifty
    But what about Poland? She marks the territory, oh belay she marks for the place of the United States - to panop in Europe, to be the first mongrel, that is, she is a mongrel, but so far not the first beloved wife with! !! crying wassat

    Pshekia and Germany have absolutely no mutual understanding, you forgot that Germany desperately needs SP2 and SP2 pshek as a splinter in the eye
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  20. Shura Wii
    Shura Wii 27 November 2019 22: 05
    0
    From whom is this old shaking washcloth going to defend itself with the help of NATA, from blacks with Arabs who trample German chickens?