The deadlines for the submarines of the 677 project "Lada"

The diesel-electric submarines of the 677 project, the Lada code, being built at the Admiralty Shipyards Shipyard, will be handed over to the Navy at the end of the 2021 year. This is stated in the materials of the presidential press service prepared for the visit of Vladimir Putin to St. Petersburg.

Two Russian submarines of project 677 "Kronstadt" and "Great Luke" will be transferred to the Naval fleet RF November 25, 2021. Currently, both submarines are at different stages of construction: the readiness of Kronstadt is 89%, the Great Onions - 55%. Submarines laid in 2005 and 2006, respectively. The lead submarine of the St. Petersburg project was laid down on December 26, 1997, and launched on October 29, 2004. Submarine from 2010 to the present time is in trial operation, the end of which is still unknown.

The 677 Lada submarine project was developed by the TsKB MT Rubin and belongs to the fourth generation of non-nuclear submarines. Earlier it was reported that in 2022 two more submarines of this project will be laid.

Displacement of submarines of the 677 Lada project is 1765 tons, hull length is 66,8 meters, width is 7,1 meters. Underwater speed - up to 21 node, immersion depth - up to 300 meters, autonomy - 45 days. Crew - 36 people. DEPLs are equipped with six 533-mm torpedo tubes. Ammunition - 18 torpedoes.

Earlier it was reported that the submarines of the 677 Lada project will be the first submarines to receive an air-independent propulsion system, the development of which is already underway by the Rubin Central Design Bureau. The design bureau said that the ROC to create a chemical VNEU is already underway. It is assumed that the "run-in" VNEU will take place on the "Frets".

Comments

[The leader of the Redskins]

Well ... Well, the dates are named. If only they did not turn out to be empty chimes, reporting to management, directors and small fry.
But, in general, the news is good, with specifics.

[cniza]

So then, and how many times have they been shifted to the right?

[bessmertniy]

A very modest pace. Is there really no way to speed up the construction of these submarines.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Everything is complicated there. The lead boat did not confirm the TTX, so the construction of these two was stopped for a long time, then they were already re-laid according to the project modernized ... And, alas, it is not a fact that the boats will work, but a pity.

[Olgovich]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

Everything is complicated there. The lead boat did not confirm the TTX, so the construction of these two was stopped for a long time, then they were already re-laid according to the project modernized ... And, alas, it is not a fact that the boats will work, but a pity.

Moreover, there are still uncertainties with VNEU ..
Even in the news the boats are called DE, and the OKR on VNEU only go ...

[Igorpl]

Apparently not so easy to do.

[bayard]

VNEU did not work with them, these will run under diesel engines. Still, they are more compact "Varshavyanka", the crew is smaller and the avionics are more modern ... With the same ammunition load.
The fleet in our conditions and such a replenishment in joy.

[Sayan]

Quote: bessmertniy

A very modest pace. Is there really no way to speed up the construction of these submarines.

One of the reasons, the lack of qualified personnel, is hanging in St. Petersburg at metro stations, announcements about the recruitment of specialists of various specialties for this enterprise.

[Potato]

So people had to be massively taught in real technical specialties, at all levels - from vocational schools to universities and beyond. But this is a completely different song ...

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Potato

So people had to be massively taught in real technical specialties, at all levels - from vocational schools to universities and beyond. But this is a completely different song ...

What are you talking about now, business is more important now, as Medvedev said there - if teachers wanted to earn money then they would go into business, here future turners and engineers choose business

[yustas]

I don’t know who, to you, they slammed a minus, but on the merits of the matter this is precisely so. After 9th grade, I consciously went to a technical school at the time, and from an ordinary electrician to a leading engineer I grew up in production. Now the situation is such that since the managers are rich, then everyone is eager to go there, and they go to the specialty either at will, or completely mediocrity, who only need to get something, and then how it goes. Sadly, they killed the best education system in the world, and now unfortunately we are reaping the fruits of this action. And now the same money has become the main thing, from where so many highly effective managers were born ...

[Sayan]

Quote: Potato

So people had to be massively taught in real technical specialties, at all levels - from vocational schools to universities and beyond. But this is a completely different song ...

I know it without you

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Sayan

Announcements on the recruitment of specialists of various specialties to this enterprise.

Hanging, but not the same, yeah. With the same open vacancies, "Varshavyanka" scattered from the shipyards "with a whistle." So in this case

Quote: Sayan

lack of qualified personnel

past the target. Yes, hulls, ship pipe layers, locksmiths, electricians are required. The problems of this series lie in a different segment.

[antivirus]

everything is gone ... the glass is half empty

[Chaldon48]

But it doesn’t work out that the cost of these non-volatile boats will eventually approach the cost of nuclear.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Well then ... the dates are named.

I don’t want to "jinx", but the terms were called for many industries (aircraft engines, ship turbines, "Vostochny" and others), but with execution the situation is much worse than under Joseph Vissarionovich "Isn't it Comrade Beria?"

[AU Ivanov.]

Then, under Comrade Stalin, the construction of ships for the Navy was adhered to. As far as I remember, the pre-war shipbuilding program was overwhelmed more than completely.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

As far as I remember, the pre-war shipbuilding program was overwhelmed more than completely.

Do you know the consequences of this?

[AU Ivanov.]

The collapse of the program of the Big Fleet is largely due to the repression of shipbuilders and naval commanders.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Well ... Well, the dates are named. If only they did not turn out to be empty chimes, reporting to management, directors and small fry.

That is why there are doubts, because everything is said before Putin's arrival in St. Petersburg, but why not earlier? Or yesterday they did not know, today we know all the dates. Maybe Putin himself is "soaring brains"?

[Potato]

The new motto of our fleet: We built, are building and will continue to build!

[rocket757]

As always! However, the specific deadline for the commissioning of the object is the date from which it will be possible to either accrue praise or something else!
We will prepare the boom of optimists and sweet \ champagne for the deadline!

[Alien From]

I agree with you! VNEU is excellent! But shifts to the right will make this champagne the most expensive in this world .....

[rocket757]

We can say that we won’t cost the price!?!? But now it’s not ... not very nice to know.

[Alien From]

As written above, unfortunately, the human production resource has been lost, and this is a direct and severe blow to this most important industry!

[rocket757]

Quote: Alien From

As written above, unfortunately, the human production resource has been lost, and this is a direct and severe blow to this most important industry!

Yes, managers, merchandisers and other lawyers were raised without measure, and specialists of the necessary professions were lost and did not learn at all.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

Yes, managers, merchandisers and other lawyers were raised without measure, and specialists of the necessary professions were lost and did not learn at all.

Stalin I.V. said "Cadres decide everything."

[rocket757]

Quote: tihonmarine

Stalin I.V. said "Cadres decide everything."

Under Stalin, and began to grow national cadres for wherever necessary!
There was a clear, well-thought-out decision, and most importantly, it really came to fruition, and did not go to empty slogans and words!

[tihonmarine]

The design bureau said that the development work on the creation of a chemical VNEU is already underway. It is assumed that the "run-in" of VNEU will take place on the Ladakh.

That would be nice, but take big doubts. The construction period itself already gives doubt, 16 years and 15 years is already a lot. And all the more, work on the power plant is still underway, then you need to make and carry out tests (these are days, months or years). But we are not experts and not experts, what will happen is what we’ll have.

[rocket757]

Quote: tihonmarine

That would be nice, but take big doubts.

I can’t say that doubts are what we need, it hurts too often to visit us!
The boom is just to look and hope that now the real dates are indicated, and not from the bulldozer!

[kjhg]

Quote: tihonmarine

And all the more, work on the power plant is still underway, then you need to make and test

Kronstad and Great Luke are being built like diesel-electric submarines, without VNEU. The next 2 Frets according to the plan should be built with VNEU.

[rocket757]

Quote: kjhg

Kronstad and Great Luke are being built like diesel-electric submarines, without VNEU. The next 2 Frets according to the plan should be built with VNEU.

The next stage, super, super batteries ... or maybe something else, UNKNOWN SOON ???

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

The next stage, super, super batteries ... or maybe something else, UNKNOWN SOON ???

As they say in Russia about this "It is clear that nothing is clear!"

[rocket757]

Quote: tihonmarine

As they say in Russia about this "It is clear that nothing is clear!"

It will be like thunder from a clear sky!

[Amurets]

Quote: rocket757

It will be like thunder from a clear sky!

The man will cross himself and everything will return until the next stage "Until the roasted cock bites into the fifth point."

[rocket757]

Quote: Amurets

Quote: rocket757

It will be like thunder from a clear sky!

The man will cross himself and everything will return until the next stage "Until the roasted cock bites into the fifth point."

We were already pecked by that heel, at all points! I would like to think that someone will fly by the dark! For everlasting memory!

[Amurets]

Quote: tihonmarine

That would be nice, but take big doubts. The construction period itself already gives doubt, 16 years and 15 years is already a lot. And all the more, work on the power plant is still underway, then you need to make and carry out tests (these are days, months or years). But we are not experts and not experts, what will happen is what we’ll have.

With the Walther turbine, the predecessor of the French Scorpen S-99 of project 617 was built in the USSR in the mid-50s of the last century. After the accident, the experimental submarine S-99 was not restored, since it needed to replace a significant part of the PGGU mechanisms, which required significant costs ... By this time, the first nuclear submarine, project 627 - K-3 entered the Soviet Navy. The complex and interesting search for new power plants is over. link to the description of the boat.
https://topwar.ru/94918-podvodnaya-lodka-s-parogazovoy-turbinoy-s-99-proekt-617.html

[Avior]

Walther’s turbine on the S-99 appeared from the project of German boats of the XXVI series.
The British had a similar one.

[Amurets]

Quote: Avior

Walther’s turbine on the S-99 appeared from the project of German boats of the XXVI series.
The British had a similar one.

I know, I also know about the unsuccessful series of "Babies" of the A615 project, but they were fire hazardous and had a lot of noise when working under water.
http://deepstorm.ru/DeepStorm.files/45-92/dts/A615/list.htm

[Victoria-V]

"The submarine has been in trial operation from 2010 to the present, the end of which is still unknown." - Very specific dates have been named. The air-independent propulsion system is made by Rubin and Malachite. But everything has already been done: "The creation of an air-independent power plant (VNEU) for non-nuclear submarines of the fifth generation of the Kalina project has been completed, according to the report of the Rubin Central Design Bureau (CDB) for 2015." Or someone is lying, or difficult. The main thing is that Viktor Bursuk promised that the Russian Navy will receive non-nuclear submarines with an air-independent power plant by the end of 2020. In a year we will rejoice, but the terms are undefined in the article. The author is completely delusional.

[Vladimir_2U]

Without VNEU, this is still 3/4 of the product.

[Pavel57]

DEPLs are equipped with six 533-mm torpedo tubes. Ammunition - 18 torpedoes.

No gauges?